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- 0:00Speaker 1: Hey everybody, welcome to Vince on a Friday. It is
- 0:03Speaker 1: so good to have you with us as always. We
- 0:06Speaker 1: have a big show ahead. Have we instigated a new
- 0:10Speaker 1: level of conflict between the leader of the country and
- 0:14Speaker 1: the leader of the Republicans in the Senate?
- 0:17Speaker 2: Maybe.
- 0:17Speaker 1: We'll talk about that in just a moment and the
- 0:19Speaker 1: steps that led to this moment all ahead on this
- 0:22Speaker 1: edition of Vince. And is the Save America Act in
- 0:26Speaker 1: many ways the ticket for the Republicans to win big?
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- 2:18Speaker 1: it's wild. Did I do that? Is that what happened?
- 2:22Speaker 1: To start with a little Steve Urkel for you this morning.
- 2:24Speaker 1: Did I do that? What just happened? You know, the
- 2:31Speaker 1: president of the United States went to Georgia two nights ago.
- 2:36Speaker 1: The Donnie went down to Georgia. And when he got
- 2:39Speaker 1: there on that rally stage, you and I began to
- 2:44Speaker 1: perceive that something was changing about his relationship with John Foon,
- 2:49Speaker 1: the leader of the Republicans in the Senate. Because the
- 2:53Speaker 1: president was pretty explicitly calling him out by name and
- 2:57Speaker 1: declaring that the real impediment to election integrity in the
- 3:01Speaker 1: United States right now is Republicans in the Senate, quite unfortunately.
- 3:07Speaker 1: This is the president of the United States. Now, he's
- 3:09Speaker 1: stating something you and I have known for a year now,
- 3:12Speaker 1: at least. And he but the fact that he's stating
- 3:16Speaker 1: it so publicly is a sign that we're reaching a
- 3:19Speaker 1: new level in this battle. Reminder, here's what the president
- 3:22Speaker 1: said two nights ago in Georgia about the Save America Act.
- 3:25Speaker 1: And of course, as we start, I want to make
- 3:26Speaker 1: sure to gavel in, as always, got to do that.
- 3:29Speaker 1: The Save America Act. Here's the president.
- 3:32Speaker 3: Finally, we have to pass the Save America Act to
- 3:35Speaker 3: defend American elections. And I have to say, Mike Johnson
- 3:52Speaker 3: and Congress have done a great job, but we're.
- 3:55Speaker 4: Having a hard time in the Senate. The Senate, what
- 3:57Speaker 4: they're doing is just— it's just not right. Congress is
- 4:02Speaker 4: going to pass it again. They passed it three times.
- 4:04Speaker 4: They're going to pass it again. It's like the Senate
- 4:08Speaker 4: is a place that you send things when you want
- 4:10Speaker 4: them to die. We can't do this then. We're not
- 4:13Speaker 4: going to take this any longer. We're not going to
- 4:15Speaker 4: take it. You know, I'm trying to be nice. Trying
- 4:18Speaker 4: to be really nice. You saw we had a big
- 4:20Speaker 4: victory last night in Arizona.
- 4:22Speaker 2: I've had victories everywhere.
- 4:25Speaker 4: But we're not going to be able to take it
- 4:29Speaker 4: much longer. When they can't get past voter ID, proof
- 4:34Speaker 4: of citizenship, no mail-in ballots because they're crooked as hell.
- 4:39Speaker 1: We're not going to be able to take it much longer.
- 4:41Speaker 1: So who should we call, Mr. President? How do we
- 4:44Speaker 1: resolve this? Well, he had advice on that, too. Here's
- 4:47Speaker 1: the president now, again, two nights ago, telling everyone they
- 4:51Speaker 1: need to call John Thune. Take a listen to the
- 4:54Speaker 1: president talking about this.
- 4:57Speaker 4: Everybody call John Thune at the Senate. He's the leader
- 5:01Speaker 4: of the Republican Party, and tell him to get this
- 5:03Speaker 4: stuff approved.
- 5:08Speaker 1: Call John Thune. That's who you got to call. You
- 5:11Speaker 1: got to call John Thune. Now, you probably are wondering
- 5:13Speaker 1: to yourself, Vince, how do I call John Thune?
- 5:15Speaker 2: You ready?
- 5:15Speaker 1: You have a piece of paper? I'm going to write
- 5:17Speaker 1: this down. I'm going to give you the number here.
- 5:19Speaker 1: And as I give you the number, of course, when
- 5:21Speaker 1: you make this phone call, be polite, be sincere, and
- 5:24Speaker 1: be insistent that we get the Save America Act passed,
- 5:26Speaker 1: not merely that you want it passed, but that you
- 5:28Speaker 1: want him to employ the means to actually pass it.
- 5:31Speaker 1: Here's the number for all patriotic Americans who'd like to
- 5:34Speaker 1: make the call today. It's 202-224-2321. And if we can
- 5:36Speaker 1: put that in chat, maybe we can pin that today.
- 5:45Speaker 1: on the chat if one of the mods could do
- 5:46Speaker 1: that for us on the live show. That is 202-224-2321
- 5:53Speaker 1: is how you reach out to John Thune, the President
- 5:56Speaker 1: of the United States, asking for that homework to get
- 6:02Speaker 1: that done. So there's the president. He's being a little
- 6:04Speaker 1: more explicit about this subject now. So one would conclude,
- 6:07Speaker 1: as I did yesterday with you, that Donald Trump's patience
- 6:12Speaker 1: is running out with John Thune. So yesterday at the
- 6:15Speaker 1: conclusion of our program, you're probably wondering, well, Vince, what
- 6:18Speaker 1: do you have to do with all this other than
- 6:20Speaker 1: the fact that we cover this so routinely? Great question.
- 6:22Speaker 1: I'm glad you asked. Yesterday morning, right as we concluded
- 6:25Speaker 1: our podcast, it is, let's see, nine o'clock Eastern time.
- 6:29Speaker 1: Right as the podcast is over, I get a call
- 6:31Speaker 1: from my White House correspondent, Reagan Reese. And Reagan, as
- 6:34Speaker 1: she does with some frequency, will call me and we'll
- 6:36Speaker 1: talk about the day's events and what questions she might
- 6:39Speaker 1: ask at the White House. And one of the questions
- 6:41Speaker 1: I put forward to her yesterday was, well, why don't
- 6:43Speaker 1: you ask him straight up? Ask Caroline Leavitt when you're
- 6:45Speaker 1: in the press conference. Has the president's patience run out?
- 6:48Speaker 1: Is it running out with John Thune? Well, Caroline Leavitt
- 6:52Speaker 1: then answered our question, the question that this audience has.
- 6:56Speaker 1: Is that actually happening? Here's that moment yesterday in the
- 7:00Speaker 1: White House press briefing, and this blew up Washington. Watch this.
- 7:06Speaker 5: One question for you on Thune and then one.
- 7:09Speaker 6: On Darlene Graham. The president seemed yesterday frustrated with Leader
- 7:13Speaker 6: Thune when he was speaking in Georgia.
- 7:15Speaker 7: Is his patience running out with Leader Thune?
- 7:18Speaker 8: And then the president recently endorsed Darlene Graham right after her.
- 7:22Speaker 1: Appointment to Senate.
- 7:23Speaker 6: What caused him to endorse her so quickly?
- 7:26Speaker 8: The president met with Darlene and thought she will be
- 7:29Speaker 8: a great representative for the great people of South Carolina
- 7:32Speaker 8: and will carry on her brother's legacy of public service
- 7:36Speaker 8: in that beautiful state. So the president is fully supportive
- 7:39Speaker 8: of Darlene and her honorable decision to run and, again,
- 7:42Speaker 8: to continue her brother's legacy. With respect to your first
- 7:46Speaker 8: question on— remind me.
- 7:47Speaker 5: Hi.
- 7:49Speaker 1: Soon if his patience is running out?
- 7:50Speaker 8: Look, the president spoke about this directly yesterday. His patience
- 7:54Speaker 8: is running out. He wants to see as much of
- 7:57Speaker 8: the Save America passed as possible by the August recess.
- 8:00Speaker 8: He knows that's what the American people want to see passed.
- 8:04Speaker 8: He was just traveling on the road yesterday, spoke about this,
- 8:07Speaker 8: and there was a Very loud applause from the people
- 8:10Speaker 8: in the audience, the everyday Americans, because voter ID is
- 8:13Speaker 8: common sense. They want proof of citizenship in our elections.
- 8:18Speaker 8: And the president feels very strongly about that. And I
- 8:20Speaker 8: would just add, you know, the American people elected overwhelmingly
- 8:25Speaker 8: Republicans to lead not just this White House, but also
- 8:28Speaker 8: the House and the Senate.
- 8:30Speaker 1: The House did its job.
- 8:31Speaker 8: The Senate needs to do its job, too. I know
- 8:33Speaker 8: it's a brief briefing today, but you're going to hear
- 8:35Speaker 8: from the president directly twice today at 230.
- 8:38Speaker 1: And also the final question, the final answer at the
- 8:40Speaker 1: White House press briefing yesterday. Isn't it nice to have
- 8:43Speaker 1: a real White House correspondent inside of that room? Isn't
- 8:46Speaker 1: it nice to have somebody asking questions sincerely for the
- 8:48Speaker 1: American people? Isn't it nice that we have a White
- 8:51Speaker 1: House that will actually answer them? Isn't it just also nice?
- 8:54Speaker 1: It's wonderful. It's wonderful. Now, that nice moment caused a
- 8:58Speaker 1: lot of chaos in Washington, D.C. yesterday. Things apparently reached
- 9:02Speaker 1: a new level immediately just by Caroline Leavitt stating the obvious,
- 9:06Speaker 1: that the president of the United States is running out
- 9:08Speaker 1: of patience with John Thune. Well, John Thune then instantly
- 9:12Speaker 1: lashed back at Caroline Leavitt. Now, I'll note he lashes
- 9:17Speaker 1: back specifically at her. Of course, Whatever ire he has
- 9:21Speaker 1: on this subject should be directed at the impediments to
- 9:24Speaker 1: passing the Save America Act that exists within the Republican
- 9:27Speaker 1: Party in the Senate. And also, he doesn't have the
- 9:29Speaker 1: courage to go after President Trump directly. So he goes
- 9:31Speaker 1: after Caroline Leavitt. And here's what he said yesterday, right after.
- 9:35Speaker 2: All of this.
- 9:37Speaker 1: And just to give you a sense of how big
- 9:40Speaker 1: this was in D.C., the White House account, the White
- 9:43Speaker 1: House account immediately shared the clip of This is the
- 9:48Speaker 1: rapid response account at the White House. They shared this. Additionally,
- 9:53Speaker 1: Elon Musk's America PAC also posted this clip online immediately yesterday.
- 10:00Speaker 1: that the president's patience is running out. So that's great
- 10:04Speaker 1: on all counts because it means that the pressure is on,
- 10:07Speaker 1: ladies and gentlemen. And here's what John Thune told Punchbowl yesterday,
- 10:12Speaker 1: the Capitol Hill news outlet. They wrote this. Thune fires back, saying,
- 10:19Speaker 1: She or somebody else ought to get on the phone
- 10:22Speaker 1: and get the votes, right? So instead of pointing the
- 10:25Speaker 1: finger at Republicans, they might think about going after the
- 10:28Speaker 1: people who are stopping it on the floor, which is
- 10:31Speaker 1: the Democrats. And if there are Republicans that they think
- 10:35Speaker 1: are gettable, get on the phone. Let's get them to yes. Now, Chad,
- 10:43Speaker 1: whose job is it to get the votes? Is it
- 10:46Speaker 1: Caroline Leavitt's? or is it John Thunes? You know the
- 10:52Speaker 1: answer to that. In fact, it's not just John Thunes,
- 10:55Speaker 1: it's all of Republican leadership in the United States Senate,
- 10:58Speaker 1: and that includes the majority whip, John Barrasso, who should
- 11:02Speaker 1: be whipping these votes, who should be whipping the effort
- 11:05Speaker 1: to get the Save America Act passed. So Thune, once again,
- 11:09Speaker 1: is pretending like it's everybody else's responsibility. Caroline Leavitt, that
- 11:14Speaker 1: is her responsibility? What are you going to ask random
- 11:17Speaker 1: dog catchers to do your job too? This has nothing
- 11:20Speaker 1: to do with her job. Her job is to be
- 11:23Speaker 1: the spokeswoman for the president of the United States. And
- 11:26Speaker 1: she's not conveying her own opinion on this subject. No
- 11:29Speaker 1: doubt she agrees with the president. I'm sure of that.
- 11:31Speaker 1: But she's telling you the president's opinion. She said his
- 11:35Speaker 1: patience is running out. So why are you attacking her?
- 11:40Speaker 1: Why are you suggesting that she needs to get on
- 11:42Speaker 1: the phone and work for these votes? Why don't you
- 11:45Speaker 1: go after the president if that's what you want to do?
- 11:50Speaker 1: It is so, I mean, it's so snake-like, actually, the
- 11:53Speaker 1: way John Thune is reacting to this. But Thune clearly
- 11:57Speaker 1: bothered by the fact that the White House just said
- 12:00Speaker 1: something that was true. So there we go. That's the
- 12:05Speaker 1: sequence of events. And then what happened yesterday among the
- 12:07Speaker 1: rest of the Senate? Well, Republican senators, establishment ones, began
- 12:12Speaker 1: closing ranks immediately around John Thune yesterday to protect him
- 12:17Speaker 1: from the White House. We have to protect him. And,
- 12:20Speaker 1: you know, and among them, of course, is Thumbelina. Thumbelina
- 12:24Speaker 1: immediately reacting to this. The Washington Examiner had an excellent
- 12:27Speaker 1: piece on the subject. The examiner piece was GOP rallies
- 12:31Speaker 1: around Thune after White House says Trump's patience is running out.
- 12:36Speaker 1: Tom Tillis, who is retiring at the end of his
- 12:38Speaker 1: term in early January and is among a quartet of
- 12:41Speaker 1: Senate Republicans who oppose the Save America Act, said that, quote,
- 12:45Speaker 1: anybody in the White House who thinks he's not a
- 12:46Speaker 1: good leader isn't qualified for their job. What? Anybody in
- 12:52Speaker 1: the White House who thinks he's not a good leader?
- 12:55Speaker 1: Who just said that John Thune needs to be a leader?
- 12:58Speaker 1: I believe that was the president of the United States.
- 13:02Speaker 1: So Tham's position is that President Trump's not qualified to
- 13:05Speaker 1: be president? Okay, you're not qualified to be a senator.
- 13:09Speaker 1: You need to go, and thank God you're retiring. Tham
- 13:12Speaker 1: Tillis saw the writing on the wall, he's getting out.
- 13:15Speaker 1: Mike Rounds of South Dakota said, sometimes the messenger isn't popular,
- 13:19Speaker 1: meaning John Thune. He's like, oh, well, people are just
- 13:21Speaker 1: being mean to him. But the bottom line is we
- 13:23Speaker 1: just don't have the votes. said Thune's homestay colleague. It's
- 13:27Speaker 1: a good bill. We don't have the votes. Take 60 votes.
- 13:30Speaker 1: He lies. It doesn't take 60 votes. It takes 51
- 13:34Speaker 1: if you have the courage to actually pass it. That's
- 13:37Speaker 1: just true. So once again, the lies, isn't it amazing?
- 13:40Speaker 1: And I know this is disheartening. It really is annoying
- 13:43Speaker 1: to have Republicans lie so easily, so casually. Take 60 votes. Sorry,
- 13:48Speaker 1: we can't do it. No, it doesn't. 60 votes is
- 13:51Speaker 1: what it takes to end debate early. How many times
- 13:54Speaker 1: have we had this conversation? Have the debate, then pass
- 13:58Speaker 1: it with 51. Or convince people to join you and
- 14:02Speaker 1: then end the debate with the 60 vote cloture. You
- 14:05Speaker 1: can do that. The Civil Rights Act was passed that way.
- 14:09Speaker 1: Susan Collins, a centrist up for reelection, says the examiner
- 14:13Speaker 1: in a battleground race who was also against the proposal, added, quote,
- 14:16Speaker 1: I think Thune enjoys well-deserved support from the Congress. Who
- 14:24Speaker 1: puts members of Congress in office? Who does that? Who's
- 14:28Speaker 1: in charge of that question? It should be the American people, actually.
- 14:33Speaker 1: The American people are not happy. This is why they
- 14:36Speaker 1: keep calling the phone number. This is why we have
- 14:39Speaker 1: to keep calling. What's the number again? 202-224-2321 and leaving
- 14:45Speaker 1: polite but sincere messages for John Thune about how we
- 14:47Speaker 1: want to save America actually passed. Do the job. You're
- 14:51Speaker 1: the leader. Be a leader. Collins says, I think Congress
- 14:58Speaker 1: is very happy with Johnson. Well, yeah, I got bad
- 15:01Speaker 1: news for Congress. The rest of us aren't. And then
- 15:05Speaker 1: there was this punch ball again, that Capitol Hill news outlet.
- 15:09Speaker 1: They had another quote here. This comes to us from
- 15:13Speaker 1: some random longtime Republican operative who was too scared to
- 15:16Speaker 1: put his name on the record. but told this guy,
- 15:19Speaker 1: Andrew Desiderio, what he actually thought about all this. He says,
- 15:22Speaker 1: you know, Trump knows full well that he can't flip
- 15:25Speaker 1: these votes. Hell, he personally came to the Capitol to
- 15:28Speaker 1: berate Senate Republicans into voting for save, and he left empty-handed.
- 15:33Speaker 1: Look at who we're talking about. Murkowski, McConnell, Tillis, Collins,
- 15:40Speaker 1: all members who he has savaged at one point or another,
- 15:44Speaker 1: and now he needs their help. All of this comes
- 15:48Speaker 1: back to one thing. What happens when Trump can't do
- 15:51Speaker 1: something himself? He blames someone else. John Thune is Mr.
- 15:55Speaker 1: Someone else. Oh, so, okay. So you see, establishment Republicans
- 16:01Speaker 1: and cowardly Republican operatives who refuse to put their name
- 16:03Speaker 1: on the record on this subject are claiming that President
- 16:06Speaker 1: Trump is just looking for some sort of patsy, some
- 16:08Speaker 1: sort of fall guy, somebody who can just stand in
- 16:11Speaker 1: for him because he couldn't get the Save America Act
- 16:14Speaker 1: passed because it was a personal failure for President Trump.
- 16:17Speaker 1: That's what this guy wants you to believe. Won't put
- 16:19Speaker 1: his name on the record. Also stating that Murkowski, McConnell, Tillis,
- 16:25Speaker 1: and Collins... They all have such personal loathing for President
- 16:29Speaker 1: Trump that they won't do the right thing for the
- 16:32Speaker 1: country because their animus is guiding their decision-making. You see this?
- 16:37Speaker 1: All members who Trump has savaged at one point or another,
- 16:40Speaker 1: and now he needs their help, but they won't give
- 16:43Speaker 1: it to him because he savaged them. And these pathetic
- 16:49Speaker 1: little snowflakes can't handle the fact that the president got
- 16:54Speaker 1: aggressive with them in public because he wanted some priority,
- 16:57Speaker 1: perhaps the Save America Act, to be passed on behalf
- 17:00Speaker 1: of the American people? Why does President Trump savage anyone?
- 17:03Speaker 1: Why does President Trump get aggressive with anyone? The answer
- 17:06Speaker 1: is always because it serves the fundamental purpose of pursuing
- 17:10Speaker 1: the best outcome for the American people. That's why he
- 17:12Speaker 1: engages in all of these fights. He doesn't need any
- 17:14Speaker 1: of this. The guy was worth billions of dollars. He
- 17:15Speaker 1: didn't need to become the president of the United States.
- 17:21Speaker 1: And every time a Murkowski, a McConnell, a Tillis, a Collins,
- 17:27Speaker 1: a Cassidy, a Cornyn, every time one of these guys
- 17:31Speaker 1: comes out and says, I'm not doing it because I
- 17:33Speaker 1: don't like how Trump treated me. All you're doing is
- 17:36Speaker 1: ratifying our judgment to throw you out in the first place.
- 17:41Speaker 1: That's it. Every time Cornyn whines about President Trump now.
- 17:46Speaker 1: It confirms that Texas voters made the right decision. Every
- 17:49Speaker 1: time Bill Cassidy whines about some Trump priority, it confirms
- 17:52Speaker 1: that Louisiana voters made the right decision. Is this frustrating?
- 17:59Speaker 1: No doubt. But if there are signs of encouragement in
- 18:02Speaker 1: the midst of all of this is that the president
- 18:04Speaker 1: is done with these games. His patience is running out.
- 18:10Speaker 1: And the White House said it yesterday after we asked
- 18:12Speaker 1: this question. And boy, it kickstarted a big storm inside
- 18:17Speaker 1: of Washington, D.C. And I love it.
- 18:19Speaker 2: I love it.
- 18:19Speaker 1: I think it's totally appropriate that this storm is underway.
- 18:23Speaker 1: Because in the midst of it, everyone's being exposed for
- 18:26Speaker 1: who they truly are. Now, Mike Lee, who is, again,
- 18:31Speaker 1: a champion here on Save America Act, he responded this
- 18:34Speaker 1: way to all of it yesterday. He said, it's hard
- 18:37Speaker 1: to accept that any senator... Democrat or Republican would not
- 18:41Speaker 1: want the Save America Act to pass. It's even harder
- 18:44Speaker 1: to understand why some who should be the most supportive
- 18:47Speaker 1: of the bill seem oddly content with letting it fail
- 18:51Speaker 1: or even eager to hasten its demise. It makes no sense.
- 18:59Speaker 1: Once again, Mike Lee is being nice. Sometimes we say
- 19:03Speaker 1: too nice to the people who are working against us here.
- 19:06Speaker 1: The reality is Democrats want voter fraud. And Republicans, some
- 19:11Speaker 1: of them hate Trump, so they refuse to do the
- 19:13Speaker 1: right thing. Others are too lazy to do their jobs.
- 19:17Speaker 1: And everyone who's standing in our way right now needs
- 19:20Speaker 1: to be voted out so we can get real election integrity.
- 19:23Speaker 1: It's just true. Mike Lee stays in the fight, but
- 19:26Speaker 1: that's the situation we're in right now. All right, more
- 19:29Speaker 1: in just a moment. In fact, we had a great
- 19:31Speaker 1: moment yesterday when a Republican senator was confronted on national
- 19:40Speaker 1: television live. And the question was really simple. What have
- 19:45Speaker 1: you done for us lately? Have you done anything? worthwhile?
- 19:51Speaker 1: An amazing clip. I'll have that in just a moment
- 19:53Speaker 1: for you in just a moment. And then we've got,
- 19:55Speaker 1: I've got a great, a great interview with Harmeet Dhillon
- 19:59Speaker 1: coming up. You got to hear from Harmeet. We've got
- 20:01Speaker 1: her on the show today because Harmeet Dhillon has information
- 20:06Speaker 1: to share with us on all of the election integrity
- 20:08Speaker 1: problems going on in states across the country. Don't miss this.
- 20:12Speaker 1: It's all coming up on this edition of Vents. I
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- 21:31Speaker 5: All right.
- 21:33Speaker 1: So what about these Republican senators? All right, let me
- 21:38Speaker 1: take things in order here, because I want to stay
- 21:39Speaker 1: on the Save America Act for a moment. Then we'll
- 21:41Speaker 1: get to a Republican senator being confronted on national television,
- 21:45Speaker 1: I promise. But on the Save America Act, you know,
- 21:47Speaker 1: Democrats are worried that if this passes, not just if
- 21:52Speaker 1: it passes, just as long as this debate stays alive,
- 21:55Speaker 1: that it's a huge electoral victory for Republicans. You realize
- 21:59Speaker 1: how absurd it is that Democrats... refuse to support a
- 22:04Speaker 1: piece of legislation that 90% of the country supports. Voter ID?
- 22:10Speaker 1: Only American citizens vote? Get the non-citizens off the voting rolls?
- 22:13Speaker 1: Everybody supports this stuff. So as long as the debate
- 22:17Speaker 1: is happening very publicly around this subject, Republicans derive a
- 22:21Speaker 1: benefit from being on the right side of this insofar
- 22:24Speaker 1: as we have a party that is. Meanwhile, Democrats have
- 22:28Speaker 1: no good arguments against it. It is a political stinker
- 22:32Speaker 1: for them. It stinks so badly that the raging Cajun,
- 22:37Speaker 1: James Carville, even lying in bed in an interview, what
- 22:40Speaker 1: is he doing lying in bed in an interview, can
- 22:42Speaker 1: admit that the Save America Act is a massive winner
- 22:46Speaker 1: for Republicans, and he wants to get past it as
- 22:48Speaker 1: quickly as possible. Here he is.
- 22:51Speaker 2: Carville, watch.
- 22:52Speaker 5: I don't know if we're not better off saying, okay,
- 22:56Speaker 5: we'll take that alternative idea, bring your gas bill or
- 22:59Speaker 5: your light bill or something. Because for whatever reason, this
- 23:03Speaker 5: shit polls at 75%. I don't think people are aware
- 23:09Speaker 5: of it. I think people assume that voter fraud happens. Again,
- 23:13Speaker 5: I don't even want to say it. If you want
- 23:16Speaker 5: to say infinitesimal, I don't know if I could think
- 23:18Speaker 5: of a word that would be even narrower than that.
- 23:21Speaker 5: I would say that. And I don't like when we say, well, look,
- 23:26Speaker 5: it's a very minor problem, but you've got to admit it.
- 23:29Speaker 5: It barely exists. And it doesn't make any sense. Having
- 23:34Speaker 5: said that, we are not going to win the war
- 23:38Speaker 5: against some kind of ID. It doesn't make any sense.
- 23:43Speaker 5: It doesn't fix anything. But maybe you just go along
- 23:46Speaker 5: with it and move.
- 23:47Speaker 1: To the next stage.
- 23:48Speaker 9: Well, James, let me disagree. We have voter ID in
- 23:51Speaker 9: most states. Most states have voter ID. What they're trying
- 23:56Speaker 9: to do with this so-called SAVE Act is to start
- 23:59Speaker 9: what they say is proof of citizenship. which is either
- 24:02Speaker 9: a birth certificate, which I don't know, 25, you know,
- 24:05Speaker 9: people have a hard, I went a couple of years ago,
- 24:07Speaker 9: I was going to take a trip overseas and about
- 24:09Speaker 9: 10 days ahead of time, I couldn't find, I spent
- 24:12Speaker 9: 10 days trying to get my birth certificate or secondly,
- 24:17Speaker 9: a passport, which most people don't have. And thirdly, you know,
- 24:20Speaker 9: if you talk about your birth certificate and, you know,
- 24:23Speaker 9: you didn't get to keep your maiden name, my wife
- 24:25Speaker 9: let me keep mine.
- 24:27Speaker 1: If you didn't get to keep your.
- 24:28Speaker 9: Maiden name, you know, you're in trouble. So I think
- 24:30Speaker 9: you're absolutely right on voter ID, but we basically have it.
- 24:34Speaker 5: Again, if we have it, just say, okay, pass the law.
- 24:40Speaker 5: I mean, look, I don't want to pass that. I
- 24:43Speaker 5: never had a problem with it. I'm just saying of
- 24:45Speaker 5: all the things, people... Every poll shows 75 or better
- 24:51Speaker 5: say we should have some kind of an ID to vote.
- 24:55Speaker 5: Some say, I don't know what it is, but shit,
- 24:57Speaker 5: just quit fighting and go along with it.
- 24:59Speaker 1: All right, good, that's enough.
- 25:00Speaker 9: Wait a minute, let me ask you, what are you
- 25:02Speaker 9: going along with?
- 25:03Speaker 1: That's great, enough, get rid of these guys. So James
- 25:05Speaker 1: Carville is just saying, will you just pass it, please?
- 25:08Speaker 1: This is so stupid. We're destroying ourselves as a party. Now, Carville,
- 25:12Speaker 1: perhaps nobody's read him in on this particular subject. But
- 25:15Speaker 1: his party is deriving power from fraud. This is the
- 25:20Speaker 1: reason they don't support it. They don't want to check ID.
- 25:24Speaker 1: They're perfectly content with non-citizens interfering in our elections. They're
- 25:27Speaker 1: perfectly content with people interfering in elections who shouldn't be there.
- 25:31Speaker 1: In fact, they're trying to protect that scheme, which is
- 25:33Speaker 1: why they don't want an election integrity bill to actually pass.
- 25:37Speaker 1: Carville's not read in on that subject right now, so
- 25:39Speaker 1: he's thinking, he's like, what is this? This is crazy.
- 25:41Speaker 1: Why are we fighting back against this? This is only
- 25:44Speaker 1: hurting us politically.
- 25:47Speaker 6: Hilarious.
- 25:49Speaker 1: By the way, I know it's like so weird. And
- 25:50Speaker 1: for those of you not watching the podcast right now,
- 25:53Speaker 1: if you're just listening, you should know that James Carville
- 25:56Speaker 1: was doing that podcast interview lying in bed. I swear
- 25:59Speaker 1: to you. I think he put the laptop on his belly.
- 26:02Speaker 1: He's lying in bed. You can see the headboard behind him.
- 26:05Speaker 1: He's got a pillow behind his head. He's wearing his
- 26:09Speaker 1: USMC hat as he often wears. He did serve a
- 26:11Speaker 1: couple of years in the Marine Corps. Thank him for
- 26:13Speaker 1: his service. He's a psychopath, but thank him for his service.
- 26:17Speaker 1: So I don't know. I'm going to be honest with
- 26:20Speaker 1: you right now about this interview. I am really looking
- 26:24Speaker 1: forward to getting to the age where I don't give
- 26:26Speaker 1: a shit about anything to the point that I can
- 26:30Speaker 1: lie in bed like James Carville and do a Zoom
- 26:33Speaker 1: call or an interview and be.
- 26:34Speaker 7: Like, whatever.
- 26:35Speaker 1: There's something. There's something kind of awesome about that. I
- 26:42Speaker 1: don't know. He's such a psycho, but there's something kind
- 26:45Speaker 1: of crazy and wonderful about it. Just lying in bed.
- 26:49Speaker 1: Just being like, another thing. Oh, it's so funny. It's
- 26:55Speaker 1: so funny. Anyway, yeah, so he's freaking out about it
- 26:58Speaker 1: because this is a huge electoral stinker for us. Why
- 27:01Speaker 1: are we getting cut? Look at the guy.
- 27:02Speaker 6: He's just lying in bed.
- 27:04Speaker 1: Oh, what a whack job.
- 27:08Speaker 2: You know, Yep.
- 27:10Speaker 1: Anyway, so he's annoyed by it. Now, having said that,
- 27:14Speaker 1: that's obviously a reason that Republicans, one more reason that
- 27:17Speaker 1: Republicans should be fighting to pass the freaking thing. James
- 27:20Speaker 1: Carville recognizes if voters have a legitimate say in our
- 27:24Speaker 1: electoral process, they're going to look at the Save America
- 27:27Speaker 1: Act's passage and go, holy crap, what a great thing
- 27:30Speaker 1: Republicans just did. Well, then just do it, you morons.
- 27:34Speaker 6: Do it.
- 27:37Speaker 1: Now, speaking of Republican senators, another one of them stopped
- 27:41Speaker 1: by the, I think this was on Fox Business yesterday,
- 27:43Speaker 1: Larry Kudlow. I like Larry Kudlow a lot. Larry Kudlow
- 27:47Speaker 1: is really talented. Larry Kudlow did something that I think
- 27:51Speaker 1: a lot of television hosts should be doing, which is
- 27:54Speaker 1: demanding answers from Republican senators and saying, hey, what have
- 27:57Speaker 1: you done for us lately? What have you done for
- 28:00Speaker 1: us lately? Watch some of this exchange. Larry Kudlow and
- 28:04Speaker 1: Senator James Lankford, and Lankford doesn't, I don't think he
- 28:08Speaker 1: was ready for this at all. Watch this.
- 28:11Speaker 10: Right now, you, the leadership in both houses are bungling everything, sir.
- 28:17Speaker 10: I say that with all due respect. And we are
- 28:20Speaker 10: personal friends. But you're bungling everything. Nothing is getting done.
- 28:25Speaker 10: Your messaging is non-existent. You've lost your swag, your swagger,
- 28:30Speaker 10: your riz, or whatever the young people say. No one
- 28:32Speaker 10: knows what the heck you're doing, sir.
- 28:34Speaker 1: They have no idea.
- 28:36Speaker 2: Yeah, you're welcome.
- 28:37Speaker 11: And this is part of the challenge we've got with
- 28:39Speaker 11: all of our media friends out there that continue to
- 28:41Speaker 11: be able to beat up on Republicans and say Republicans
- 28:43Speaker 11: are all the problem. But apparently the socialist Democrats in
- 28:46Speaker 11: New York City, they seem to be perfect because most
- 28:49Speaker 11: conservative media right now is beating up on Republicans and
- 28:52Speaker 11: just ignoring the socialists.
- 28:53Speaker 1: Who are running rampant.
- 28:54Speaker 2: All over the country. So I look back on.
- 28:56Speaker 11: What happened with the one big beautiful bill, look at
- 28:59Speaker 11: the housing bill we just passed. There's a lot of
- 29:01Speaker 11: things that are going on that are good, and I
- 29:03Speaker 11: understand every day.
- 29:04Speaker 10: Nobody has attacked Mondami more than I have, for heaven's sake.
- 29:07Speaker 10: That isn't the point.
- 29:08Speaker 1: I wasn't saying that just about you. That isn't the point.
- 29:11Speaker 11: This is the challenge that we're up against right now.
- 29:13Speaker 1: What is it that your policy is? Senator Lankford.
- 29:16Speaker 10: My friend, what is your policy? Where are the tax cuts?
- 29:20Speaker 10: Where are the spending cuts? Where's the waste, fraud, and
- 29:23Speaker 10: corruption reduction? Where is all of that? Where is the
- 29:27Speaker 10: reconciliation bill? Where's the straight talk and messaging for the midterms?
- 29:32Speaker 10: Where's the growth messaging? Where's the we're going to make
- 29:35Speaker 10: it better for taxpayers and working folks messaging?
- 29:38Speaker 1: Come on, Senator.
- 29:40Speaker 11: Glad to be able to take it on, Larry. Again,
- 29:43Speaker 11: you and I are friends. We've talked through all this
- 29:44Speaker 11: stuff before. So let's just start with last year and
- 29:47Speaker 11: what's coming out right now on all the tax policy. Obviously,
- 29:50Speaker 11: tax rates didn't go up. We dealt with permanent expensing
- 29:53Speaker 11: for all of our businesses in trying to be able
- 29:55Speaker 11: to make sure they're growing.
- 29:56Speaker 2: They're growing.
- 29:57Speaker 11: The reason we're actually dealing with growth right now You
- 30:00Speaker 11: are an expert on this, you know it full well,
- 30:02Speaker 11: is because the changes we made in last year's tax bill.
- 30:04Speaker 11: We'd love to do a lot more on that and
- 30:07Speaker 11: we will be able to do a lot more on that,
- 30:09Speaker 11: but we're still getting all of those things implemented right now.
- 30:12Speaker 11: The housing bill that we just passed starts a whole
- 30:14Speaker 11: different process of taking the federal regulations, trying to make
- 30:17Speaker 11: housing cheaper for everybody. Right now, all the different pieces
- 30:21Speaker 11: on fraud are being implemented on SNAP, on the food
- 30:23Speaker 11: stamp fraud that's been happening around the country.
- 30:26Speaker 1: That's being implemented right now.
- 30:27Speaker 2: That is billions of dollars in savings.
- 30:30Speaker 11: It's also putting work requirements on individuals and taking away
- 30:33Speaker 11: the rights of people that are illegally present in the
- 30:37Speaker 11: United States.
- 30:37Speaker 2: To be able to get these extra benefits.
- 30:39Speaker 11: All those are things that are happening right now because
- 30:42Speaker 11: Republicans actually put those in place.
- 30:45Speaker 1: And then Kudlow goes on to be like, wait a second,
- 30:48Speaker 1: you just said two different bills. one of them had value,
- 30:52Speaker 1: but that was last year. He said, Kudlow goes on,
- 30:54Speaker 1: he's like, hey, the one being beautiful bill, you can't
- 30:56Speaker 1: ride that forever. I mean, obviously people should reflect that
- 30:59Speaker 1: on that in the midterms, but that was last year.
- 31:01Speaker 1: What have you done for me lately? And he goes
- 31:03Speaker 1: in the housing bill, Kudlow points out, that was like
- 31:06Speaker 1: an Elizabeth Warren special. That really was not fundamentally the
- 31:10Speaker 1: kind of bill that's gonna lead to long-term prosperity in
- 31:13Speaker 1: the United States. What are you talking about? And then
- 31:16Speaker 1: getting control of fraud, Notice the little kind of the
- 31:20Speaker 1: game that Lankford is playing here, getting control of fraud,
- 31:23Speaker 1: going after the fraudsters, all that stuff. Which branch of
- 31:26Speaker 1: government is doing that? It's not the Senate. It's not
- 31:30Speaker 1: the legislative branch. It's the executive branch. That's J.D. Vance's
- 31:34Speaker 1: squad that's going after all these animals who've been stealing
- 31:38Speaker 1: from the American taxpayers. So as Lankford is pawing around
- 31:43Speaker 1: for an excuse for the behavior of Senate Republicans, he
- 31:46Speaker 1: starts taking credit for things that J.D. Vance has been running.
- 31:50Speaker 2: What? Okay.
- 31:54Speaker 1: I want to go back towards the beginning of the clip, though, too.
- 31:57Speaker 1: He goes, yeah, well, the reason people don't think we're
- 32:00Speaker 1: doing very much is we're getting constantly attacked by all
- 32:03Speaker 1: these conservative commentators when they should be setting their sights
- 32:05Speaker 1: on the left. What are you talking about? Those of
- 32:11Speaker 1: us who are in the conservative commentating space spend a
- 32:15Speaker 1: ton of time talking about the evils of the left.
- 32:18Speaker 1: In fact, it's the basis by which we have been
- 32:20Speaker 1: supporting the Trump agenda, which is to say we've got
- 32:23Speaker 1: to stop these animals, these people from destroying our country.
- 32:27Speaker 1: We have to stop it, which is why we keep
- 32:29Speaker 1: voting for Trump, keep pushing the Trump agenda, making it
- 32:32Speaker 1: too big to rig. And now that you are in charge,
- 32:35Speaker 1: Republicans are. Democrats are not in charge. They're not. Republicans
- 32:39Speaker 1: lead the White House, the Senate, and the House right
- 32:41Speaker 1: now by the grace of the Trump voter. In light
- 32:45Speaker 1: of that, you have the power to actually make things
- 32:48Speaker 1: better and stop the left right now. So to whom
- 32:52Speaker 1: should we turn when we want power to actually be
- 32:55Speaker 1: used to our benefit? The answer is you. You're a
- 32:59Speaker 1: Republican senator. This is why we keep saying we got
- 33:03Speaker 1: to get the Save America Act passed. I'm not going
- 33:05Speaker 1: to turn to the Democrats to get it done because
- 33:07Speaker 1: they refuse to get it done. And they're not in
- 33:09Speaker 1: charge of the agenda of the United States Senate. You are.
- 33:14Speaker 1: Why don't you focus on the party that's out of power? What?
- 33:17Speaker 1: We're focused on the party that's in power. And you're
- 33:20Speaker 1: disappointing us. And Larry Kudlow was right to call you
- 33:23Speaker 1: out about this yesterday. And he just kept doing it,
- 33:26Speaker 1: by the way. That clip just keeps going, where he's like,
- 33:28Speaker 1: I'm not satisfied. That's not convincing enough. Good for Larry Kudlow.
- 33:33Speaker 1: Stay on these guys. All right, more ahead on the program.
- 33:36Speaker 1: I have Harmey Dillon with us. I'm going to share
- 33:39Speaker 1: some of that with you. I interviewed her on the
- 33:41Speaker 1: radio show yesterday, but her revelations are so good, so important.
- 33:47Speaker 1: I'm going to share them with you here in just
- 33:48Speaker 1: a moment. We'll get to that here on this edition
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- 36:30Speaker 6: Okay.
- 36:31Speaker 1: Yesterday, I had the privilege, as I get every so often,
- 36:34Speaker 1: to speak to the Assistant Attorney General for Civil Rights,
- 36:38Speaker 1: Harmeet Dhillon. Harmeet joined me on the radio program. And
- 36:42Speaker 1: We talked about all of these revelations out of the
- 36:45Speaker 1: Garden State, the state of New Jersey, where we have
- 36:47Speaker 1: thousands upon thousands of non-citizens who were registering to vote
- 36:52Speaker 1: and at least hundreds of them who've been casting ballots. Now,
- 36:56Speaker 1: we've talked about all the contours of what we've learned
- 36:58Speaker 1: from New Jersey and the implications for the rest of
- 37:00Speaker 1: the country. Now, how about some consequences? What's the Justice
- 37:05Speaker 1: Department up to right now? Well, Harmey Dillon says you
- 37:09Speaker 1: can infer a lot from what she's doing Listen to this.
- 37:15Speaker 1: is the Assistant Attorney General for Civil Rights. They handle
- 37:18Speaker 1: election law. Harmey Dillon is on the phone. Great to
- 37:20Speaker 1: have you back, Harmey.
- 37:22Speaker 6: Thanks for having me, Vince.
- 37:24Speaker 1: What are we to make of this? New Jersey now
- 37:26Speaker 1: admitting 6,600 non-citizens on the voting rolls, and I just
- 37:30Speaker 1: heard from DHS they believe it's upwards of 35,000. What
- 37:33Speaker 1: do you know about this?
- 37:35Speaker 6: Well, that's right. DHS has been systematically, for the states
- 37:39Speaker 6: that have fought us in court and refusing to give
- 37:42Speaker 6: us the voter rolls to help us avoid exactly this
- 37:45Speaker 6: type of illegal behavior. You know, they're using some publicly
- 37:50Speaker 6: available data to send lists of potential noncitizens to states,
- 37:54Speaker 6: and that list is 35,000 plus for the state of
- 37:58Speaker 6: New Jersey. And so what I think is very interesting here,
- 38:00Speaker 6: and you listen to the words being used both by
- 38:03Speaker 6: the governor and the media, is the dishonesty. So you hear... error,
- 38:09Speaker 6: you hear glitch, you hear mistake, you hear the software
- 38:15Speaker 6: vendor did it, you hear the software registered the voters.
- 38:18Speaker 6: We don't register voters. These are all obfuscation and doublespeak
- 38:23Speaker 6: designed to conceal the fact that for decades, states have
- 38:27Speaker 6: refused to do their job under federal law to clean
- 38:29Speaker 6: up their voter rolls. And when you combine that with
- 38:32Speaker 6: loose vote-by-mail procedures that came into vogue during COVID, you
- 38:36Speaker 6: have this perfect storm of illegality. And so this is
- 38:41Speaker 6: just the people who raised their hand and said, I'm
- 38:43Speaker 6: not a citizen. There are plenty of others who register
- 38:45Speaker 6: to vote either mistakenly or deliberately thinking that they're allowed
- 38:49Speaker 6: to vote when they do not have legal status in
- 38:52Speaker 6: this country as citizens. And so I think it's a
- 38:56Speaker 6: very widespread problem. I can tell you we're taking it
- 38:59Speaker 6: very seriously. It is a crime for election officials. to
- 39:03Speaker 6: allow people to be on the voter rolls knowing that
- 39:05Speaker 6: they're non-citizens. And to the extent that New Jersey election
- 39:09Speaker 6: officials had any knowledge of this and allowed people to
- 39:12Speaker 6: vote when they were not properly entitled to do so,
- 39:15Speaker 6: they are at legal risk themselves. And there are hundreds
- 39:19Speaker 6: of thousands of non-citizens on the voter rolls, according to
- 39:22Speaker 6: our most recent count, which is not comprehensive in the
- 39:26Speaker 6: United States. And you know, some of these people are voting.
- 39:29Speaker 6: It happens in every election cycle where we prosecuted some
- 39:32Speaker 6: of them. And so, you know, we're ramping this up
- 39:35Speaker 6: and we are absolutely going to get to the bottom
- 39:38Speaker 6: of what happened here.
- 39:40Speaker 1: How is it that the claim seems to be that
- 39:42Speaker 1: 400 non-citizens cast ballots in New Jersey on according to
- 39:46Speaker 1: the governor, and that they may not have known that
- 39:49Speaker 1: they weren't allowed to vote? I don't even understand that.
- 39:52Speaker 1: How is that even possible? If you're a non-citizen and
- 39:55Speaker 1: you cast a ballot in an election, shouldn't a punishment
- 39:58Speaker 1: be imposed upon you, like you should be deported for
- 40:01Speaker 1: having violated our nation's laws?
- 40:03Speaker 6: Yeah, I think the only gray area here is for
- 40:06Speaker 6: the 6,600... A subset, the vast majority of them, according
- 40:11Speaker 6: to the story being told by the governor, didn't vote. OK,
- 40:14Speaker 6: so if the state registered them to vote after they
- 40:18Speaker 6: said I'm not eligible, that's not on them. That's on
- 40:21Speaker 6: the state.
- 40:22Speaker 4: Right.
- 40:22Speaker 6: But then there are the subset of them who said
- 40:25Speaker 6: I'm not eligible. And then they went ahead and voted.
- 40:27Speaker 6: They got a ballot in the mail. And I was
- 40:29Speaker 6: just reading a story of a, you know, retiree who got. $ 20, 000
- 40:34Speaker 6: of Social Security benefits, and he immediately started the process
- 40:36Speaker 6: of trying to return them because they weren't his. That's
- 40:39Speaker 6: what an honest person does. And if you get a
- 40:40Speaker 6: ballot in the mail and you know you're not supposed
- 40:42Speaker 6: to vote it, you already said that, you tear it up.
- 40:44Speaker 6: You throw it away. You ask the state to fix
- 40:46Speaker 6: this error and get off the voter rolls. If you
- 40:49Speaker 6: instead decided to vote it or worse, Maybe your defense
- 40:53Speaker 6: is somebody came and stole it or ballot harvested it
- 40:55Speaker 6: from you or something. I don't know what happened. We're
- 40:57Speaker 6: going to get to the bottom of it. But, you know, yes,
- 41:00Speaker 6: if you deliberately voted a ballot knowing that you're not
- 41:02Speaker 6: a citizen of the United States, that's crime.
- 41:06Speaker 1: So I think it's safe to say, based on what
- 41:08Speaker 1: you just said, you have a criminal investigation underway into
- 41:10Speaker 1: this subject right now.
- 41:12Speaker 6: I can't confirm or deny the existence of a criminal investigation.
- 41:15Speaker 6: I have publicly stated that election officials who knowingly allow
- 41:19Speaker 6: this are in breach of criminal law. And we have
- 41:24Speaker 6: criminally prosecuted people who have done exactly this. So I
- 41:26Speaker 6: think you can infer from that.
- 41:27Speaker 1: Okay. So have you by any chance talked to the
- 41:30Speaker 1: software company? And this may fall into the same answer
- 41:32Speaker 1: you just gave me, but the software company released a
- 41:35Speaker 1: statement yesterday. Their name was Idemia. And they said, we
- 41:39Speaker 1: didn't do anything wrong here at all. The data was
- 41:41Speaker 1: handled by these state government officials and and they're the
- 41:45Speaker 1: ones who failed to prevent non-citizens from appearing on the
- 41:48Speaker 1: voting rolls. Has the software company reached out to you
- 41:50Speaker 1: and the Justice Department?
- 41:53Speaker 6: Look, I mean, I'm not going to get into the
- 41:54Speaker 6: details of any investigation that we're doing, but I think
- 41:56Speaker 6: it's safe to say that the software company's role in
- 41:59Speaker 6: this is something that is certainly relevant. And I will
- 42:02Speaker 6: add that the same software company, I think it's got
- 42:04Speaker 6: a French parent company, handles the voter rolls for some
- 42:08Speaker 6: other states too. So we will definitely be finding out
- 42:12Speaker 6: The point at which data is handed off to the
- 42:16Speaker 6: state and it's the state's responsibility, it is the state's responsibility.
- 42:19Speaker 6: In New Jersey, the lieutenant governor fills the role of
- 42:23Speaker 6: effectively the secretary of state. Now, what the governor said
- 42:27Speaker 6: a couple of days ago is that all of this
- 42:30Speaker 6: happened under Phil Murphy's watch. There is a point in
- 42:35Speaker 6: time at which all of these folks who are talking
- 42:38Speaker 6: now knew about this. this governor came out and criticized
- 42:43Speaker 6: President Trump last Thursday after his speech, where he revealed
- 42:47Speaker 6: the existence of several streams of interference with our elections
- 42:51Speaker 6: from different foreign countries. And, you know, she condemned him.
- 42:56Speaker 6: She said he was lying and making things up and gaslighting. And,
- 42:59Speaker 6: you know, it was like demagoguery. And then just a
- 43:02Speaker 6: few days later, she comes out with a statement. So
- 43:04Speaker 6: I think the timing of what the governor and her
- 43:07Speaker 6: predecessor knew and when they knew it is going to
- 43:10Speaker 6: be extremely important to us.
- 43:12Speaker 1: It seems important because my impression of her statement was
- 43:17Speaker 1: that something, that this news was going to break one
- 43:19Speaker 1: way or the other, and she's trying to frame our
- 43:22Speaker 1: understanding of the story. What do you make of the timing?
- 43:25Speaker 12: I do.
- 43:25Speaker 6: I mean, look, I don't think it's a coincidence that
- 43:27Speaker 6: less than two weeks ago, I sent letters to all
- 43:30Speaker 6: 50 states and the District of Columbia saying, hey, if
- 43:34Speaker 6: you knowingly allow, knowingly is a critical word in criminal law,
- 43:38Speaker 6: if you knowingly allow non-citizens to be on your voter
- 43:41Speaker 6: rolls and at risk of voting, that's a crime and
- 43:45Speaker 6: we'll prosecute it. And, you know, I'm glad people are
- 43:49Speaker 6: maybe taking it seriously, but I think we've had a
- 43:54Speaker 6: long spell of time in our country where people have
- 43:55Speaker 6: become very cynical because we've seen, we've seen it happen
- 44:01Speaker 6: and no one seems to be getting punished for it.
- 44:03Speaker 6: Now I want to be very fair and clear that,
- 44:06Speaker 6: When we build a criminal case, we don't do it
- 44:08Speaker 6: off of news reports. People are yelling at me on
- 44:10Speaker 6: social media, where are the arrests? I don't know the
- 44:13Speaker 6: names of these 400 people. We're going to go in
- 44:15Speaker 6: all due diligence and go find them and then confirm
- 44:17Speaker 6: that they're not citizens. I don't trust anything the state
- 44:19Speaker 6: of New Jersey is saying. But once we get to
- 44:21Speaker 6: the bottom of all of that, did they vote? Are
- 44:23Speaker 6: they a citizen? Those are the two critical questions for
- 44:26Speaker 6: that side of the analysis. We'll find out what happened.
- 44:30Speaker 6: We'll find out how big this problem is. We'll find
- 44:32Speaker 6: out how many states this problem is. And I will
- 44:36Speaker 6: say the 17 states, almost all Republican states, maybe all,
- 44:41Speaker 6: cooperated with us. We asked them for the voter rolls.
- 44:44Speaker 6: They gave us the voter rolls. We shared data with them.
- 44:46Speaker 6: We told them, hey, these are some things you should fix.
- 44:49Speaker 6: They're fixing them. Like, what's so hard about that? Like,
- 44:52Speaker 6: that's government working together to get things done for the
- 44:54Speaker 6: American people. That's how it should be.
- 44:57Speaker 1: Yes, indeed. So I want to ask you more about
- 44:59Speaker 1: that effort in a moment, but just on New Jersey,
- 45:01Speaker 1: Governor Sherrill releases this statement. I saw you put out
- 45:04Speaker 1: a letter to her asking for all of this information.
- 45:06Speaker 1: Tell us who you're talking about. Who are these 400
- 45:08Speaker 1: people who voted? Has the state of New Jersey responded
- 45:11Speaker 1: in any way? Have they signaled that they will be
- 45:13Speaker 1: getting you that data?
- 45:16Speaker 6: No, to date. But I'm not the only person here
- 45:19Speaker 6: in the building, so it's quite possible someone else on
- 45:21Speaker 6: my team may have been in contact with them.
- 45:24Speaker 1: But, you know, it's I feel like it would be
- 45:26Speaker 1: a priority to tell you that they got a response, probably.
- 45:29Speaker 10: We have an.
- 45:29Speaker 6: Election coming up, and let me just tell you another
- 45:31Speaker 6: deadline here, which is typically voter rolls. It seems like
- 45:38Speaker 6: it's the middle of the summer, but we're getting to
- 45:40Speaker 6: the point where people are starting to print ballots, and
- 45:42Speaker 6: then we have military voters who have to get ballots
- 45:45Speaker 6: even further ahead of time, and so there's a lead
- 45:47Speaker 6: time for elections. So it is imperative that New Jersey
- 45:50Speaker 6: get all of these people off the voter rolls pronto.
- 45:53Speaker 6: before they start printing and mailing out ballots. So that
- 45:55Speaker 6: better happen.
- 45:56Speaker 1: So you've been seeking this voter roll information from the states.
- 45:59Speaker 1: You started by requesting it voluntarily. You said 17 states
- 46:03Speaker 1: have been working with you, but many states have refused,
- 46:05Speaker 1: and now you're battling them out in court, including the
- 46:07Speaker 1: state of New Jersey.
- 46:08Speaker 6: Including New Jersey. And we did file with the court
- 46:10Speaker 6: in New Jersey that's presiding over this case, an updated
- 46:15Speaker 6: filing after the governor's statement saying, hey, this is Exhibit
- 46:18Speaker 6: A here, why we need this.
- 46:21Speaker 7: Yes.
- 46:22Speaker 1: So the 17 states, let's just start with them, the
- 46:25Speaker 1: ones that worked with you. You said you believe they're
- 46:27Speaker 1: almost all, if not all, Republican states. What did you
- 46:32Speaker 1: locate in their voter rolls? Did you ever find noncitizens
- 46:35Speaker 1: or dead people? Did you find that they weren't as
- 46:37Speaker 1: clean as they needed to be?
- 46:39Speaker 6: Yeah, we did. I mean, I'm not going to point
- 46:41Speaker 6: fingers at any particular state, but we found upwards of 200,000
- 46:46Speaker 6: dead people on these voter rolls. We found– I think
- 46:51Speaker 6: approximately close to 30,000 suspect non-citizens. And we don't just
- 46:58Speaker 6: like start taking people off the voter rolls. We then
- 47:00Speaker 6: go investigate each one. We go check, did they become
- 47:03Speaker 6: a citizen between the last time that we have a
- 47:04Speaker 6: record for them and today? That could happen. And we
- 47:07Speaker 6: make sure that they're not citizens and then we get
- 47:09Speaker 6: them off the voter rolls. It's both a crime to
- 47:12Speaker 6: deliberately register to vote or misrepresent yourself as a citizen
- 47:17Speaker 6: if you're not a citizen. And of course, also to
- 47:19Speaker 6: actually vote if you're not a citizen.
- 47:22Speaker 1: And then what about these states that you're fighting in court?
- 47:24Speaker 1: I mean, what are the chances that you can have
- 47:26Speaker 1: victory here? The media keeps crowing that judges are stopping
- 47:29Speaker 1: you from getting this data.
- 47:30Speaker 6: Well, judges are. They're correct. Judges are not– I will
- 47:36Speaker 6: say it's a little strange. There's a half a dozen
- 47:38Speaker 6: different theories that different states have prevailed on in court.
- 47:41Speaker 6: One of the vogue theories is that the voter rolls
- 47:44Speaker 6: are not a record within the meaning of the Civil
- 47:47Speaker 6: Rights Act. Other judges have said– there's no proper purpose
- 47:52Speaker 6: articulated where the statute we're going on the 1960 civil
- 47:55Speaker 6: rights act doesn't require a proper purpose. It requires the
- 47:57Speaker 6: attorney general has a right to this data. And obviously
- 48:01Speaker 6: cleaning up the voter rolls is a proper purpose, which
- 48:04Speaker 6: we've articulated. And some, some states have even admitted in
- 48:08Speaker 6: court that if we like their purpose, like if this
- 48:10Speaker 6: was under olden times, then the argument being made by
- 48:13Speaker 6: the department of justice was that black people are being
- 48:15Speaker 6: prevented from voting. We'd happily hand over the voter rolls,
- 48:18Speaker 6: but it's not really up to them. I mean, it's,
- 48:21Speaker 6: The statute doesn't limit our ability that way. So ultimately,
- 48:25Speaker 6: if we make our way up to the Supreme Court
- 48:28Speaker 6: and that court doesn't agree, then Congress will need to
- 48:32Speaker 6: fix this problem. But it is our view that we're
- 48:34Speaker 6: entitled to this material, and many states immediately agreed with
- 48:38Speaker 6: us and cooperated with us. And that's the right thing
- 48:41Speaker 6: to do for the voters in that state because every
- 48:43Speaker 6: single vote that was cast that Mikey Sherrill blows off
- 48:49Speaker 6: as a glitch– an error, is the cancellation of another
- 48:54Speaker 6: New Jersey citizens vote.
- 48:56Speaker 1: Yes, disenfranchising New Jersey voters of every color. And the
- 49:00Speaker 1: courts should acknowledge that, that we need to protect these votes, obviously.
- 49:04Speaker 1: Harmeet Dhillon, I talk about you all the time because
- 49:07Speaker 1: I keep saying she's one of the good guys in
- 49:09Speaker 1: this fight. And I mean it. And I'm so grateful
- 49:11Speaker 1: for you to join us and give us this information today.
- 49:13Speaker 1: Thank you so much.
- 49:15Speaker 6: You're welcome. Take care.
- 49:17Speaker 1: Great, Harmeet Dhillon. It was really nice. to chat with her.
- 49:21Speaker 1: Thank you to Harmeet for being in this fight and
- 49:24Speaker 1: making all the difference in the world and just absolutely
- 49:27Speaker 1: taking it to these states. And you heard her in
- 49:30Speaker 1: the interview. Look, she's a Justice Department official. They're not
- 49:33Speaker 1: allowed to say, yes, we've got a criminal investigation underway
- 49:36Speaker 1: into this subject right now. But she did use the phrase,
- 49:39Speaker 1: you can infer what you'd like. Well, I'm inferring that
- 49:44Speaker 1: they have a very active criminal investigation into all of
- 49:47Speaker 1: this underway. Godspeed, Harmeet. Crush these people. Crush them. Do
- 49:53Speaker 1: it for us. thank you to Harm Me Dylan again.
- 49:57Speaker 1: We'll have her back again soon. Now, I want to
- 49:59Speaker 1: share something. One more thing with you before we go today.
- 50:03Speaker 1: Did you guys see Elon Musk sit down with The
- 50:05Speaker 1: Economist this week? Did you see this at all, Chad?
- 50:08Speaker 1: It was great.
- 50:09Speaker 2: It was great. It was great.
- 50:11Speaker 3: Love it.
- 50:12Speaker 1: Elon Musk sat down. I love when Elon Musk sits
- 50:15Speaker 1: down with crazy left-wing white women. I don't know. There's
- 50:19Speaker 1: something sort of wonderful about it. I'm not sure exactly
- 50:22Speaker 1: why the chemistry works so well. but he destroys them.
- 50:25Speaker 1: And so this was one of those moments. And he
- 50:30Speaker 1: sits down with this lady and she hates him. She
- 50:32Speaker 1: like clearly does not like him or thought this is
- 50:35Speaker 1: my big career opportunity. If I can square away Elon Musk,
- 50:40Speaker 1: it's not going to work at all. In fact, let
- 50:43Speaker 1: me take you through some of the highlights here. We've
- 50:46Speaker 1: got Elon Musk. Oh, so she asked him, How many
- 50:50Speaker 1: people have died because of Doge cuts? You know, you
- 50:53Speaker 1: were a part of Doge. You were cutting all these
- 50:56Speaker 1: federal government expenditures, including USAID spending. How many people have died?
- 51:01Speaker 1: And Elon Musk says the answer is 0.0%. 0.0 people
- 51:07Speaker 1: have died. Cut four. Watch this.
- 51:10Speaker 12: You don't buy the idea that anybody, to put it
- 51:13Speaker 12: really crudely and simply, any kid in Africa died because
- 51:16Speaker 12: of the suddenness with which... I just don't think that's right.
- 51:19Speaker 12: I just don't think... I mean, I've had people reporting
- 51:22Speaker 12: in Africa who.
- 51:23Speaker 13: How many NGOs are there that could step in? Because
- 51:27Speaker 13: bear in mind, it happened quickly, and there are literally
- 51:32Speaker 13: tens of thousands of NGOs.
- 51:35Speaker 12: Not everyone functions as fast as you do. If funding
- 51:38Speaker 12: is cut off for antiretrovirals overnight and it just stops,
- 51:42Speaker 12: then people will die when they don't have access to them.
- 51:45Speaker 13: No, only if they cannot get funding for that. But
- 51:48Speaker 13: the Gates Foundation has $ 50 billion. What about them? What
- 51:53Speaker 13: about any one of a number of organizations? What about the....
- 51:58Speaker 12: Well, in lots of these countries, USAID.
- 52:00Speaker 13: McKenzie, whatever her last name is, used to be Bezos,
- 52:03Speaker 13: gave $ 50 billion.
- 52:04Speaker 2: What about that?
- 52:05Speaker 12: But, you know, let's be practical. In many of these countries,
- 52:08Speaker 12: USAID was the biggest funder. But I don't want to
- 52:10Speaker 12: have an argument.
- 52:11Speaker 2: USAID was a political organization.
- 52:13Speaker 12: It may also have been that, but it was the
- 52:14Speaker 12: biggest funder of health care systems. So I am... I'm
- 52:18Speaker 12: very sure.
- 52:19Speaker 2: Biggest funder of regime change.
- 52:21Speaker 12: And there may well be benefits from having changed the system.
- 52:25Speaker 2: Also, USID funding was not stopped. It was moved to
- 52:27Speaker 2: the State Department. It was stopped.
- 52:29Speaker 12: There were huge numbers of things shut down in Africa
- 52:30Speaker 12: that were health-related.
- 52:32Speaker 2: No, there were claims of this. These claims are false.
- 52:36Speaker 2: They're nonsense. Absolute nonsense. But when funding is.
- 52:40Speaker 13: Stopped for fraudulent organizations or for something, do you think
- 52:45Speaker 13: they're going to say, do you think they're going to say, well.
- 52:48Speaker 2: Please keep funding the fraud?
- 52:50Speaker 13: Or do you think they're going to come up with
- 52:52Speaker 13: a sad story that sounds sympathetic in order to get
- 52:55Speaker 13: the funding restored? Obviously, it will be the latter. And
- 52:58Speaker 13: that's exactly what they did.
- 53:00Speaker 2: But zero died because of Doge. Zero point zero.
- 53:07Speaker 12: I actually have a lot of sympathy for the change
- 53:10Speaker 12: of the aid regime that the U.S. under the Trump
- 53:12Speaker 12: administration has precipitated. However, I think the pace and the
- 53:17Speaker 12: suddenness with which it happened will almost certainly have caused
- 53:21Speaker 12: unnecessary suffering and deaths. And I think both of those
- 53:23Speaker 12: can be true.
- 53:24Speaker 2: No, I think that's totally false.
- 53:26Speaker 6: Okay.
- 53:27Speaker 2: And obviously false because.
- 53:28Speaker 13: The amount of funding we're talking about is far less
- 53:33Speaker 13: than what can be supported via private foundations like the
- 53:40Speaker 13: Gates Foundation or Mackenzie Bezos' foundation. She's given away tens
- 53:45Speaker 13: of billions of dollars. The Gates Foundation has tens of
- 53:49Speaker 13: billions of dollars. They are capable of acting very quickly.
- 53:52Speaker 1: All right, perfect. So this is, you know what I
- 53:55Speaker 1: love about this? I just love everything about this because
- 53:57Speaker 1: she's advancing a conspiracy theory. You're killing people. You're an
- 54:01Speaker 1: awful person. You've been killing people. Okay, what's the evidence
- 54:03Speaker 1: for that? She has no evidence. It's just a matter of,
- 54:06Speaker 1: she's just taking it on faith. It's just a kind
- 54:08Speaker 1: of a religious adherence to a talking point. But he,
- 54:12Speaker 1: doesn't care about her religious adherence to a talking point.
- 54:14Speaker 1: He just says instantly, you're lying. It's not true. There's
- 54:17Speaker 1: no evidence for it whatsoever. It's nonsense. 0.0 people have
- 54:21Speaker 1: died as a result of doge cuts. In fact, doge
- 54:24Speaker 1: cuts have been a benefit to the American people because
- 54:29Speaker 1: we're not spending money on insanity anymore. Not at the
- 54:32Speaker 1: level we were previously, at least. And he was rightly
- 54:36Speaker 1: calling out, too, USAID was a regime change operation. It
- 54:39Speaker 1: was like a CIA front. It was meddlesome. It was disastrous.
- 54:44Speaker 1: It was a left-wing slush fund that was funding all
- 54:48Speaker 1: sorts of nonsense that had nothing to do with benefiting
- 54:50Speaker 1: the American people. You want to see nonsense that the
- 54:52Speaker 1: USAID was funding? You see the Associated Press story this week?
- 54:57Speaker 1: We were funding transgender Nepalese sex workers.
- 55:05Speaker 2: What?
- 55:06Speaker 1: We were paying welfare to random people in Nepal? Transgender?
- 55:10Speaker 1: What are we doing? This is American money. So my
- 55:14Speaker 1: grandchildren are going to be able to not afford to
- 55:18Speaker 1: live because we have to dump money into transgender Nepalese
- 55:22Speaker 1: sex workers?
- 55:23Speaker 2: Are you serious?
- 55:24Speaker 1: Cut eight. Watch this.
- 55:28Speaker 14: These transgender sex workers operate in the shadows alongside a
- 55:31Speaker 14: busy highway in central Nepal, risking their lives for a
- 55:34Speaker 14: few dollars. Until recently, many of them worked not as
- 55:37Speaker 14: sex workers, but as aid workers, including Ruby Lama, who
- 55:40Speaker 14: dedicated years of her life to helping prevent the spread
- 55:42Speaker 14: of HIV in Nepal's marginalized communities.
- 55:44Speaker 12: But after the U.S.
- 55:45Speaker 14: Cut its foreign aid funding, Ruby and around 300,000 other
- 55:48Speaker 14: aid workers worldwide.
- 55:49Speaker 7: Lost their jobs.
- 55:50Speaker 14: With no other employment available, she is surviving now by
- 55:53Speaker 14: working the streets, alongside the very people she once fought
- 55:55Speaker 14: so hard to help.
- 55:57Speaker 7: On the first night, I was a little nervous because
- 56:00Speaker 7: I was afraid of dealing with people. I was a
- 56:02Speaker 7: little nervous about what to say and how to say.
- 56:04Speaker 7: The funding we had in the US was for condoms.
- 56:16Speaker 7: I'm sorry. For those of you listening to the audio podcast,
- 56:29Speaker 7: you don't get the benefit of the language unless you
- 56:32Speaker 7: understand that.
- 56:33Speaker 1: But they're talking about all the free condoms and free
- 56:35Speaker 1: lubricant and all the garbage that we were paying for.
- 56:37Speaker 1: And they're like, what the hell's going on? By the way,
- 56:40Speaker 1: if you are receiving a check from U.S. taxpayers and
- 56:44Speaker 1: then the check disappears and, like, they're saying that, oh,
- 56:50Speaker 1: they lost their jobs. You didn't have a job. You
- 56:53Speaker 1: had a welfare check from the American people. We've got
- 56:58Speaker 1: veterans living homeless on the streets of the United States
- 57:01Speaker 1: of America, and we're sending money to Nepal to pay
- 57:04Speaker 1: for sex workers?
- 57:05Speaker 10: Hello.
- 57:06Speaker 1: This is so crazy. Thank God Elon Musk went in there.
- 57:10Speaker 1: Thank God President Trump keeps getting elected. Thank God they're
- 57:13Speaker 1: cutting off this nonsense. That's what that lady was defending.
- 57:17Speaker 1: We got to keep sending all this money to transgender
- 57:20Speaker 1: Nepalese prostitutes. How about no? How about no? We don't
- 57:23Speaker 1: send our money to them. That's crazy.
- 57:28Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 57:29Speaker 1: Our tax dollars no longer funding employment for transgender Nepalese
- 57:33Speaker 1: sex workers. Thank you for reminding us why defunding USAID
- 57:37Speaker 1: was long overdue. That was Brandon Gill, the great Brandon Gill,
- 57:41Speaker 1: responding to this Associated Press nonsense.
- 57:44Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 57:45Speaker 1: Thank you. Thank you. Another reason I voted for Donald Trump,
- 57:48Speaker 1: to get rid of that garbage. This conversation continued with
- 57:51Speaker 1: Elon Musk and the annoying lady. She was going after
- 57:55Speaker 1: him for a bunch of random things. She said— they started
- 58:02Speaker 1: talking about— what actually leads to the death of people.
- 58:06Speaker 1: This is Elon Musk saying, you want to talk about
- 58:08Speaker 1: people dying? Forget random foreigners that you're just inventing are dying.
- 58:12Speaker 1: How about American citizens who are dying because of George
- 58:15Speaker 1: Soros-funded DAs in the United States of America? Cut five.
- 58:21Speaker 1: Watch Elon Musk square her away on that subject.
- 58:27Speaker 13: Where there is danger in this country is because we
- 58:31Speaker 13: failed to incarcerate repeat violent offenders. And that's, you know,
- 58:38Speaker 13: the classic sort of Soros DA or judges that fail
- 58:42Speaker 13: to incarcerate repeat violent offenders. And if somebody gets arrested
- 58:46Speaker 13: 50 times, literally, for violent crimes, and eventually they're going
- 58:54Speaker 13: to kill somebody. So you either incarcerate them or people
- 58:59Speaker 13: will die.
- 59:00Speaker 1: That's true. That's true. You know, it really is only
- 59:04Speaker 1: a small subset of people who commit most of the crimes.
- 59:08Speaker 1: And that's true across societies. definitely true in the United
- 59:10Speaker 1: States of America. And it just so happens that in
- 59:13Speaker 1: these highly concentrated sections of the country, you have these
- 59:17Speaker 1: Soros-funded DAs who keep letting the violent criminals back out
- 59:20Speaker 1: to commit more violence. In fact, you know how concentrated
- 59:24Speaker 1: it is? Let me show you something here. A friend
- 59:27Speaker 1: of mine, John Lott, great researcher, wrote a piece on
- 59:30Speaker 1: this published this year in July. Look at this. Murders
- 59:33Speaker 1: in the United States remain very concentrated. That was back
- 59:36Speaker 1: in 2024. This is the data that he's drawing from.
- 59:39Speaker 1: With the murders in the worst 2% of counties remaining
- 59:42Speaker 1: at their 2020 peaks. Look at the numbers here. The
- 59:46Speaker 1: worst 1% of counties have 20% of the population and
- 59:49Speaker 1: 41% of the murders. The worst 2% of counties in
- 59:58Speaker 1: the United States of America, just 63 counties, they contain
- 1:00:02Speaker 1: 30% of our country's population, but 54% of all murders.
- 1:00:07Speaker 1: 2% of our counties are responsible for 54% of homicides
- 1:00:14Speaker 1: in the United States of America. Now, those counties are
- 1:00:18Speaker 1: the kinds of counties that have Soros-funded prosecutors hovering over them.
- 1:00:22Speaker 1: Meaning that the law is not being enforced, that violent
- 1:00:25Speaker 1: criminals keep being released. In fact, in a city like
- 1:00:30Speaker 1: New York, New York City, you might remember this. This
- 1:00:35Speaker 1: is last year, September of last year. You get all
- 1:00:39Speaker 1: these terror attacks taking place, violent crime going on. And
- 1:00:45Speaker 1: they say a cluster of 63 career criminals has been
- 1:00:50Speaker 1: wreaking havoc on the subway. More than 5,000 arrests between them. 5,000
- 1:00:57Speaker 1: arrests for 63 people. Oh, Elon Musk is totally right
- 1:01:04Speaker 1: about this. It's the same violent people over and over
- 1:01:08Speaker 1: and over again. And if you just have real law
- 1:01:11Speaker 1: enforcement and real prosecutors, you solve this problem. You establish peace.
- 1:01:17Speaker 1: That's why the Trump administration has had so much success
- 1:01:19Speaker 1: dropping the homicide rates, all these murders, because they've actually
- 1:01:22Speaker 1: been enforcing the law, including when people break relatively small
- 1:01:27Speaker 1: federal laws. The broken windows theory. Our friend Dan Bongino
- 1:01:31Speaker 1: talked about it with a lot of frequency. Just go
- 1:01:34Speaker 1: after these violent criminals before they can commit murder. You
- 1:01:37Speaker 1: catch them, you drop the homicide rate. The proof is
- 1:01:40Speaker 1: in the pudding. We're seeing it already happen. So Elon's
- 1:01:44Speaker 1: right about that too.
- 1:01:46Speaker 12: Hmm.
- 1:01:46Speaker 1: What else is he right about? Well, she was also annoyed,
- 1:01:50Speaker 1: this interviewer from The Economist, was also annoyed that Elon
- 1:01:55Speaker 1: Musk supports what she refers to as far-right people. Now,
- 1:01:59Speaker 1: Elon Musk supports... movements of normal people who'd like to,
- 1:02:04Speaker 1: you know, be able to conduct their way of life
- 1:02:06Speaker 1: and have civil liberties and, you know, all across the country,
- 1:02:10Speaker 1: who don't want their borders destroyed, who don't want rapists
- 1:02:13Speaker 1: pouring in. Elon Musk supports the causes of normal people.
- 1:02:17Speaker 1: It's true. And so he makes his case as she goes, oh,
- 1:02:19Speaker 1: you support far right people.
- 1:02:20Speaker 2: He goes, far right?
- 1:02:21Speaker 1: What are you talking about? I support normal people. Cut six.
- 1:02:25Speaker 1: Watch this.
- 1:02:26Speaker 12: You support Not just the populist right, but the far right.
- 1:02:28Speaker 12: In fact, very fringe parties in some countries.
- 1:02:30Speaker 2: No, I support the normal people.
- 1:02:32Speaker 6: Okay.
- 1:02:32Speaker 2: What you call the far right, falsely.
- 1:02:35Speaker 12: You think is the normal person.
- 1:02:36Speaker 6: Okay.
- 1:02:37Speaker 5: Yes.
- 1:02:38Speaker 13: Literally, you could go back 10 or 15 years, and
- 1:02:42Speaker 13: these policies were completely normal. One thing that's quite funny
- 1:02:47Speaker 13: is to, like, take a speech from Obama and Hillary,
- 1:02:50Speaker 13: and then go to someone and say, who's sort of,
- 1:02:55Speaker 13: you know, on the sort of, what I call the
- 1:02:56Speaker 13: lunatic left, and say, what do you think of the
- 1:02:59Speaker 13: speech by Trump? I'm like, oh wow, he's the worst
- 1:03:01Speaker 13: person ever. Actually, that was a speech by Obama. Or actually,
- 1:03:04Speaker 13: that was a speech by Hillary.
- 1:03:06Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 1:03:08Speaker 2: Literally.
- 1:03:09Speaker 12: No, I agree that the center of gravity in this
- 1:03:11Speaker 12: country has shifted, certainly in the Democratic Party, shifted to
- 1:03:13Speaker 12: the left, but that's not what I'm talking about. I'm
- 1:03:14Speaker 12: talking about people like Rupert Lowe, I'm talking.
- 1:03:16Speaker 13: About people on- It's actually just normal people.
- 1:03:19Speaker 1: Just normal people. I'm talking about people like Rupert Lowe, Rupert, look,
- 1:03:23Speaker 1: the guy who doesn't want Islamic rape gangs running all
- 1:03:27Speaker 1: over the UK, the guy who's concerned about the well-being
- 1:03:30Speaker 1: of Britons, I'm sorry, what's fringe about that opinion? Isn't
- 1:03:35Speaker 1: that a normal opinion? We don't think that the girls
- 1:03:37Speaker 1: should be raped. We don't think our borders should be
- 1:03:39Speaker 1: wide open. We shouldn't have Islamic rape gangs pouring into
- 1:03:41Speaker 1: the country. Isn't that a normal opinion? Normal people have
- 1:03:44Speaker 1: that opinion, don't they? They should. Oh, it's very fringe.
- 1:03:50Speaker 1: I support normal people. Good for him. One more from
- 1:03:53Speaker 1: Elon while we're on the subject. I just can't get
- 1:03:55Speaker 1: enough of this because he was running circles around this chick.
- 1:03:59Speaker 1: She said, people don't like you. Not just that they
- 1:04:01Speaker 1: don't like you. They loathe you. You are loathed, Elon Musk.
- 1:04:05Speaker 2: And he goes, really?
- 1:04:06Speaker 1: I'm loathed? Let's look at the data for a second.
- 1:04:09Speaker 1: Watch this.
- 1:04:10Speaker 12: Why people loathe you. I mean, some people do loathe you.
- 1:04:13Speaker 2: Yes, some people do.
- 1:04:15Speaker 12: But do you understand why? Do you think what you're
- 1:04:17Speaker 12: doing is helpful for Western democracy?
- 1:04:20Speaker 2: Maybe some people do loathe me. And that's probably true.
- 1:04:23Speaker 2: I don't care.
- 1:04:26Speaker 13: But the fact that, as you pointed out, a quarter
- 1:04:30Speaker 13: billion people follow me is that I think a lot
- 1:04:33Speaker 13: more people actually like me than don't. And I think
- 1:04:36Speaker 13: a lot more people hate you and the media more
- 1:04:40Speaker 13: than you realize.
- 1:04:45Speaker 2: I know.
- 1:04:45Speaker 1: Isn't that great? That's true. That's true against all these
- 1:04:48Speaker 1: legacy media outlets. They're like, people don't like Trump. They're like,
- 1:04:51Speaker 1: you think people don't like Trump? Have you seen what
- 1:04:53Speaker 1: they think of you? They're not honest about that subject.
- 1:04:58Speaker 1: They're not honest about a lot. We try to be
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