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- Lucas: You're sitting across the table from a buyer. They've made a strong offer. The letter of intent is signed. But there's a catch — they want the right to walk away for almost any reason, with no real cost to them. Luna: And you as the seller have already put your business in play. You've spent months preparing, you've turned down other bidders. So what's your leverage? Lucas: That's where the reverse termination fee comes in. It's a clause that's quietly reshaped how mid-market and large-cap deals get done, especially since 2022. And I think most business owners still don't fully understand it. Luna: So let's start with the basics. What exactly is a reverse termination fee? And how is it different from the standard break fee people might know? Lucas: Sure. A standard break fee — what lawyers call a 'buyer termination fee' — is paid by the seller if they back out. Say the seller gets a higher offer after signing, or their shareholders vote it down. The buyer gets compensated for their time and expense. Usually 3 to 4 percent of the deal value. Luna: Right. So it protects the buyer from a seller who changes their mind. Lucas: Exactly. A reverse termination fee flips that. It's paid by the buyer to the seller if the buyer walks away — typically for reasons within their control, like financing falling through, or sometimes for broader reasons like regulatory denial. And the fee is often larger. We're seeing 5 to 7 percent of deal value in some cases. Luna: That's significant. On a $500 million deal, we're talking $25 to $35 million just as a penalty for walking. Lucas: And that's exactly the point. It forces the buyer to put real money at risk before they can kill a deal. It changes their incentive structure. Suddenly that 'we'll figure out financing later' attitude gets a lot more disciplined. Luna: When did this become standard? I feel like ten years ago, reverse termination fees were rare, mostly in private equity deals where the buyer needed debt financing. Lucas: You're right. They started appearing more in the late 2010s as financing risk became a bigger concern. But the real shift happened after 2020, when regulatory risk exploded. The deal that everyone points to is Adobe's proposed acquisition of Figma. Luna: Ah, the $20 billion deal that collapsed. Was there a reverse termination fee in that one? Lucas: Yes, and it was massive. The original agreement included a reverse termination fee of about $1 billion if the deal got blocked by regulators. But Adobe actually ended up paying Figma a 'break-up fee' reported to be around $200 million because the fee was structured differently — it was more of a reverse termination fee tied to regulatory denial. The specifics got messy. Luna: So Figma walked away with $200 million for a deal that never closed. That's the ultimate seller protection. Lucas: It is. And it sent a signal to the entire market. If you're a seller, especially in tech or industries with heavy regulatory scrutiny, you need to negotiate for a reverse termination fee that covers the risk of the deal dying on the buyer's side. Luna: But not all reverse termination fees are created equal. There's usually a carve-out for 'regulatory denial' versus 'financing failure' versus 'buyer's remorse.' I've seen deals where the buyer only pays if they fail to get financing, not if regulators block it. Lucas: That's the critical distinction. The seller wants the fee triggered as broadly as possible. The buyer wants it narrowed. The most seller-friendly version is a 'hell or high water' clause — the buyer agrees to do whatever it takes to close, including suing regulators, and if they still can't close, they pay the fee. Luna: And the buyer-friendly version is a 'reasonable best efforts' clause — they try to get regulatory approval, but if it's too hard, they can walk without paying. Lucas: Exactly. So the negotiation around the reverse termination fee is really a negotiation about who bears the risk of a broken deal. And in the past couple of years, as deal certainty has become more valuable, sellers have gained leverage. Luna: Let me ask you something. If I'm a seller of a mid-market company — say $50 million in revenue — how do I even bring this up without scaring off a buyer? Lucas: You frame it as a fairness issue. You say: 'We're willing to commit to a break fee on our side if we walk. We ask that you do the same.' And then you point to a specific risk — maybe your industry is under antitrust review, or the buyer is using a lot of debt. You make it concrete. Luna: That makes sense. And if the buyer pushes back, what do you do? Lucas: You ask why they want the option to walk for free. If their business case is solid, they should be willing to put up a fee that covers your costs and lost opportunity. If they're not, maybe they're not a serious buyer. Luna: There's also the question of how the reverse termination fee interacts with the material adverse change clause. Can a buyer use an MAC to avoid paying the fee? Lucas: That's a great point. In many deals, the reverse termination fee is the exclusive remedy if the deal falls through for certain reasons. But an MAC can sometimes override it. For example, if the seller's business suffers a catastrophic event, the buyer might argue that the MAC clause allows them to walk without paying the fee. The interplay is complicated and often litigated. Luna: So you really need a lawyer who understands these nuances. This isn't something you negotiate without experienced counsel. Lucas: Absolutely. And one of the things I think is really interesting is how reverse termination fees have changed the behavior of private equity firms. Traditionally, PE firms were very comfortable signing letters of intent and then spending weeks or months lining up debt financing. If financing fell through, they just walked. Luna: But now, with a reverse termination fee on the table, they have to have their financing lined up before they sign. It's a discipline mechanism. Lucas: Exactly. We've seen some PE firms start to include reverse termination fee clauses in their own favor — they'll agree to pay the fee, but only if financing fails, not if they change their mind about the deal. That's still a compromise, but it's better for the seller than nothing. Luna: Let's talk numbers. What's a typical reverse termination fee in a middle-market deal today? Lucas: In the middle market — say enterprise value between $50 million and $500 million — we're seeing fees of 5 to 7 percent of deal value on the buyer side, compared to 3 to 4 percent on the seller side. For larger deals, it can be 3 to 5 percent, because the absolute dollar amount is already huge. Luna: So on a $200 million deal, the seller might ask for a $10 million to $14 million reverse termination fee. That's a lot of money, but it's also a lot of risk to the seller if the deal falls through. Lucas: Right. And the seller's risk isn't just the time and legal fees. It's the opportunity cost — they may have turned down other buyers, or they may have signaled to the market that they're for sale, which can hurt their negotiating position later. Luna: So the reverse termination fee is really a form of insurance for the seller. And like any insurance, you have to pay a premium — in this case, a slightly lower purchase price or tighter terms in other areas. Lucas: That's the trade-off. Some sellers prefer a higher price with no reverse termination fee, betting the deal will close. Others prefer a slightly lower price with a fee, because they want certainty. It depends on the seller's risk tolerance. Luna: I've also seen deals where the reverse termination fee is structured as a percentage of the equity value rather than the enterprise value. That can be a point of negotiation too. Lucas: Yes, and it matters a lot if the company has a lot of debt. Equity value is usually much smaller than enterprise value, so a fee based on equity value is cheaper for the buyer. Sellers should insist on enterprise value as the base. Luna: So to sum up: a reverse termination fee is a tool that shifts deal risk from the seller to the buyer. It's become more common as regulatory and financing risks have increased. And it's something every seller should at least consider asking for. Lucas: And every buyer should expect to be asked. It's now a standard part of the M&A lexicon, and ignoring it could leave you exposed. If you're a business owner thinking about selling, this is one of those clauses that can make or break your outcome. Luna: Speaking of making or breaking outcomes — I know this is a bit of a departure, but it strikes me that a lot of the negotiation dynamics we talk about on this show come down to a simple principle: putting your money where your mouth is. Lucas: That's exactly right. And it's funny you mention that, because that principle is also what keeps this show going. We don't run ads, we don't have sponsors, and that means the podcast is supported entirely by listeners who find value in these conversations. Luna: So if these episodes have helped you think more clearly about a deal you're working on, or if you've ever used a concept from the show in a real negotiation, that's the kind of thing that makes us feel like this is worth doing. Lucas: And if you want to help us keep it ad-free, you can support the show at buy me a coffee dot com slash fexingo. No pressure, no upsells — just a way for listeners who get something out of this to chip in. We're grateful for any of you who choose to. Luna: Alright, back to the deal table. So we've covered what a reverse termination fee is and when to use it. But there's one more nuance I want to dig into: how the fee interacts with the concept of 'specific performance'. Lucas: That's a great next layer. Specific performance is a legal remedy where a court orders the buyer to actually complete the deal, rather than just pay a fee. In some jurisdictions, if the buyer breaches the agreement, the seller can sue for specific performance and force the closing. Luna: But that's rare in practice, isn't it? Courts are reluctant to force someone to buy a business. Lucas: Very rare. But it's a negotiating point. Some sellers will ask for specific performance as a backup to the reverse termination fee. The buyer will usually push back, saying the fee is the sole remedy. And that's usually where it ends — the fee becomes the exclusive remedy. Luna: So the reverse termination fee effectively caps the buyer's liability. If the deal falls through, they pay the fee and walk away clean. No lawsuits, no specific performance. Lucas: Exactly. And that's why buyers actually like reverse termination fees in some ways — they create certainty and finality. The buyer knows their maximum downside if the deal fails. It's a cleaner exit than litigating a MAC clause. Luna: So it's not just a seller protection tool. It's also a buyer discipline tool that gives both sides a clear off-ramp. Lucas: Exactly. And I think that's the key insight. The best M&A contracts are the ones where both parties know exactly what happens in every scenario. The reverse termination fee is a way of pricing that off-ramp upfront. Luna: And if you're a seller, you want to make sure that off-ramp is expensive enough that the buyer thinks twice before taking it. Lucas: Right. The fee has to hurt. If it's too small, it's just a cost of doing business for the buyer. They might sign a deal knowing they'll walk if something better comes along. That's the opposite of what you want. Luna: So what's the magic number? Is there a rule of thumb for how big the fee should be? Lucas: There's no hard rule, but a common benchmark is that the fee should cover the seller's out-of-pocket costs plus the lost premium they would have gotten from the deal. Some advisors say it should be at least equal to the seller's break fee, which is usually 3 to 4 percent. So a reverse termination fee of 5 to 6 percent is often seen as fair. Luna: That's a good heuristic. And if the buyer offers a fee that's lower than the seller's own break fee? That's a red flag. Lucas: Big red flag. It signals that the buyer doesn't think the deal is very likely to close, or they want the option to walk cheaply. Either way, the seller should push back. Luna: Alright, so to wrap this up: the reverse termination fee is a critical clause in modern M&A. It protects sellers from buyer cold feet, financing failures, and regulatory blocks. It forces buyers to be disciplined. And it gives both sides a clear, contractual exit if things go wrong. Lucas: And it's one of those clauses that's become standard enough that if you're not asking for it, you're leaving money and certainty on the table. Whether you're buying or selling, understanding the reverse termination fee is table stakes in today's deal environment. Luna: Next time, we might look at how these fees are playing out in the current market — especially with the FTC being more aggressive. But for now, I think we've given everyone a solid framework. Lucas: Agreed. Thanks for listening, and we'll see you in the next episode of The Acquisition Talk.