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Dead Boy Detectives and Cheesecake · Large Nerdron Collider

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  Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, Welcome to the Large nerdron Collider podcast, the
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  Speaker 1: podcast that's all about the geeky things happening in the
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  Speaker 1: world around us and how very excited we are about them.
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  Speaker 1: I'm Ariel cast In and with me is always is
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  Speaker 1: tech genius Jonathan Strickland.
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  Speaker 2: Wow. Deja vu wow, deja.
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  Speaker 1: Vu wow, deja voo.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, uh, listeners, this is probably what like the third
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  Speaker 3: or fourth attempt we've had to just record the intro.
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  Speaker 1: I think it's the fourth. Yeah, that's part for the
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  Speaker 1: course for us kind of.
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  Speaker 3: So we launched riverside, which is the software we use
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  Speaker 3: or the web app we use it or to record
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  Speaker 3: these things because again, we still haven't figured out a
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  Speaker 3: way where two people living in the same metro Atlanta
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  Speaker 3: area can get together and record in person.
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  Speaker 1: To be fair, we're like, if there's traffic an hour
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  Speaker 1: to an hour and fifteen apart.
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  Speaker 2: That's true.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, while we technically live in the same metropolitan area,
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  Speaker 3: we are not close to each other, and there's a
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  Speaker 3: lot of traffic and heavy heavy highways between us.
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  Speaker 1: If there's no traffic, it's like twenty twenty five minutes,
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  Speaker 1: So she's not so bad.
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  Speaker 3: But we record on Fridays Friday in Atlanta, rush hour
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  Speaker 3: starts at around five am and ends on Sunday. So anyway,
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  Speaker 3: all that aside, we had technical issues. Ariel was getting
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  Speaker 3: an echo for a while, the wrong microphone was getting
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  Speaker 3: picked up by on my side where I could not
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  Speaker 3: figure out what happened. And it's probably because I installed
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  Speaker 3: a new mic stand that was putting some tension on
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  Speaker 3: the cable and thus making the cable loose. So riverside
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  Speaker 3: was like, oh, well, can't use that microphone. So there
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  Speaker 3: was a whole list of issues. We think we've got
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  Speaker 3: them sorted, which is good because we've got a ton
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  Speaker 3: of stuff to talk about this week, including things that
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  Speaker 3: we personally watched or experienced.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, so other than microphone Shenan against Jonathan, what have
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  Speaker 1: you watched or experienced?
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  Speaker 3: Well, Ariel, I'm sure you this will come as a
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  Speaker 3: huge surprise to you, as if we had not had
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  Speaker 3: this very conversation just like ten minutes ago. But yeah,
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  Speaker 3: the last night I watched the second half of season
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  Speaker 3: two of Invincible. You know, we both had watched the
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  Speaker 3: first half of season two, and I saw that season two,
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  Speaker 3: Part two was available, probably had been for a while.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know when it actually went up, but I
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  Speaker 3: decided i'd watch an episode, and then I decided to
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  Speaker 3: watch another episode, and then I thought, well, there's only
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  Speaker 3: four episodes for the second half of the season, so
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  Speaker 3: why not go ahead and watch all four? So I did,
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  Speaker 3: and I'm here to tell y'all if you are a
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  Speaker 3: fan of Invincible in it might be the strongest half
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  Speaker 3: season so far. It's definitely heavy and emotional, and depending
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  Speaker 3: on which characters you really like, you might be really
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  Speaker 3: upset as the series goes on. Some very not great
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  Speaker 3: things happened to some characters. But the other big thing
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  Speaker 3: was that they set something up that I thought was
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  Speaker 3: going to pay off in the finale, and.
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  Speaker 2: It did not.
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  Speaker 3: The thing they set up is unresolved, which to me
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  Speaker 3: says that there will have to be a season three
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  Speaker 3: to resolve that particular part of the story, which, as
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  Speaker 3: I understand it goes along with the comics. I never
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  Speaker 3: read the comic books, so I just have kind of
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  Speaker 3: an awareness of the comics and where they go, and
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  Speaker 3: I know that the animated series is similar to but
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  Speaker 3: not identical to the comics, so kind of like The
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  Speaker 3: Walking Dead was in the early years. So I don't
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  Speaker 3: know what exactly to expect, but I was not disappointed.
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  Speaker 3: Oh and I also watched the final episode of The
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  Speaker 3: completely made up Adventures of Dick Turpin, which continued to
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  Speaker 3: delight me, even as I recognize that it's really just
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  Speaker 3: kind of It's a good show, not a great show,
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  Speaker 3: but it it caters to my sensibility, so I enjoy
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  Speaker 3: it more than I probably should.
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  Speaker 1: Gotcha, I mean, you enjoy its exactly as much as you,
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  Speaker 1: Jonathan Strickland should enjoy it. For Invincible, you said it
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  Speaker 1: was heavy, heavier than the season finale of season one.
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  Speaker 3: I'm gonna say yes, because they're so like I remember
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  Speaker 3: the season. The opener of Invincible is incredibly shocking. When
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  Speaker 3: that first episode finishes right like the end, the post
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  Speaker 3: little not even post credit, but the post episode sequence
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  Speaker 3: is one of the most disturbing things and really sets
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  Speaker 3: the tone for the rest of season one. There's nothing
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  Speaker 3: quite on that level. I mean there's a little bit.
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  Speaker 3: There's definitely visceral violence. I mean, that's part of the show,
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  Speaker 3: but it's who it happens too that gets real upsetting.
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  Speaker 3: But on the flip side, there's also this feeling that
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  Speaker 3: no one's ever gone forever because so many characters return
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  Speaker 3: after they've it appears that they have been killed, and
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  Speaker 3: then they come and sometimes they come back even stronger
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  Speaker 3: than they were pre getting obliterated. So maybe maybe your
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  Speaker 3: personal stakes will vary. It affected me. Actually I didn't
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  Speaker 3: get emotional watching it, but I could feel it creeping
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  Speaker 3: up to there. But on the in fairness, I am
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  Speaker 3: a sap.
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  Speaker 1: I mean me too, so I appreciate the warning. I
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  Speaker 1: don't know how many our listeners are, but so I'm
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  Speaker 1: sure some of them appreciate the warning as well. I
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  Speaker 1: watched I'm Caught Up on X Men ninety seven, the
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  Speaker 1: continuation of the old X Men cartoon. This latest episode
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  Speaker 1: was just a whole lot of fun because they're releasing
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  Speaker 1: them weekly, so there's four episodes right now. Just a
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  Speaker 1: lot of fun. And then we started watching Reboot, which
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  Speaker 1: is old. It's not a news show. It's the one
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  Speaker 1: about rebooting a classic television show, and it's very self referential.
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  Speaker 1: If you haven't watched it, it's on Hulu and just
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  Speaker 1: it makes fun of the industry and it makes fun
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  Speaker 1: of remaking things. And it's written by Paul Reiser and
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  Speaker 1: Rachel Bloom. I'm enjoying it quite a bit. And then
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  Speaker 1: but I won't talk about it forever because I said
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  Speaker 1: it's an older show. And then I started playing Beat Saber.
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  Speaker 1: It's been in my house since Christmas, and I finally
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  Speaker 1: start to playing it. So if you hear what sounds
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  Speaker 1: like bubble wrap popping, that's just my joints and spine.
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  Speaker 3: Now for clarifications sake, Ariel, when you say reboot, you
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  Speaker 3: mean the twenty twenty two series, not the animated series.
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  Speaker 1: Probably, yes, I mean the twenty twenty two series.
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  Speaker 3: Because like when you said I watched reboot, I'm like,
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  Speaker 3: did we?
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  Speaker 2: So?
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  Speaker 3: I get that you're watching X Men ninety seven. Did
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  Speaker 3: you just decide to go all nineties?
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  Speaker 2: No?
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  Speaker 1: Well, I mean X Men ninety seven came out.
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  Speaker 3: This year, right, yeah, yeah, But I mean they're picking
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  Speaker 3: up on the nineteen nineties series of the X Men
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  Speaker 3: animated series, is what I meant. I'm really excited for
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  Speaker 3: them to go to X Men ninety eight. Personally, I
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  Speaker 3: can't wait to see what happens.
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  Speaker 1: Very clever. I also can't tell if you're serious or not.
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  Speaker 1: Was ninety eight a good year for you? No?
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  Speaker 3: Actually, ninety seven was the good year for me because
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  Speaker 3: that's the year. That's the year where I got hit,
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  Speaker 3: So yeah, it's a that's cool though. I'm glad that
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  Speaker 3: you're getting enjoyment out of that series. Like I didn't
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  Speaker 3: watch reboot the twenty twenty two series either, and so
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  Speaker 3: if it.
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  Speaker 1: Has nothing to do with the ninety series.
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  Speaker 3: At all, that's fine, which is good because I am
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  Speaker 3: only aware of the ninety series. I never actually watched it.
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  Speaker 3: I know that people have compared like really cheesy CGI
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  Speaker 3: stuff to reboot Era animated series, so that that's kind
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  Speaker 3: of like my context for that show.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, I definitely want to check out reboot.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe I will once I finally do have access to Hulu.
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  Speaker 3: Disney Plus has been a real, a real chore for
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  Speaker 3: me to access this week, although part of that is
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  Speaker 3: probably just due to the browser I have and how
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  Speaker 3: how many tabs I have open. Like earlier this week,
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  Speaker 3: I was trying to access it, and it was giving
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  Speaker 3: me a lot of grief, like I had to reset
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  Speaker 3: my password or it wanted me to reset my password.
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  Speaker 3: But the thing is that Disney wants to use a
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  Speaker 3: single sign on for all Disney services, so whether it's
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  Speaker 3: for making a reservation at the parks or watching something
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  Speaker 3: on Disney Plus, or going to the Disney Shop and
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  Speaker 3: shopping online. You're supposed to use the same log in, right,
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  Speaker 3: And for some reason, Disney Plus was not recognizing my
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  Speaker 3: log in, even though if I went to the Disney
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  Speaker 3: Cruise page and use the log in, I logged in
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  Speaker 3: just fine, So that told me that the email and
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  Speaker 3: password were correct. But for some reason it wasn't working,
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  Speaker 3: and I just tried multiple times and finally gave up.
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  Speaker 3: So the whole point being that I can't wait for
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  Speaker 3: Hulu to be part of Disney Plus so I can
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  Speaker 3: finally watch all these Hulu series I've been hearing about.
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  Speaker 1: I will say I can see Hulu series on dis Plus.
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  Speaker 1: It's like on Hulu, and it just lists a whole
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  Speaker 1: bunch of them, including rebuts.
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  Speaker 3: Right right for me, I have to wait until November. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: and I can get that when I can get that
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  Speaker 3: level of subscription and have it actually work.
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  Speaker 1: I will say I think there is something in the
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  Speaker 1: proverbial streaming waters because last some of my friends and
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  Speaker 1: I we do a group watch. We started it during
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  Speaker 1: the pandemic when we all decided we needed to just
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  Speaker 1: be able to talk to each other, so we would
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  Speaker 1: get on Discord and do a group watch of like
• 10:33
  Speaker 1: Farscape on Amazon. We've been doing We've kept it up,
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  Speaker 1: not always, but for the most part we've kept it up.
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  Speaker 1: And we're currently watching season two of Fox Makina. I've
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  Speaker 1: seen it before, but I'm happy to rewatch it. And
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  Speaker 1: when when Amazon turned to the you need to pay
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  Speaker 1: more to not get ads service, it changed to that
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  Speaker 1: only people who had the service where you didn't get
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  Speaker 1: ads could start a watch party, but anyone could join.
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  Speaker 1: And now nobody can join a watch party or start
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  Speaker 1: a watch party. It happened like two days ago, So
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if they discontinued the service and didn't
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  Speaker 1: tell anybody because all of the information on the internet's
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  Speaker 1: very like conflicting, and even within Amazon Support it's conflicting
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  Speaker 1: within the same item, or if they had a bug
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  Speaker 1: and they just haven't figured it out yet. But then
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  Speaker 1: we went to watch Teleparty and that was acting funky
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  Speaker 1: too well.
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  Speaker 3: And a few services had interruptions this week. So Apple
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  Speaker 3: had interruptions on Wednesday for all of their streaming stuff
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  Speaker 3: like whether it was music or television, and then Meta
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  Speaker 3: had disruptions with WhatsApp, which obviously isn't a streaming service,
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  Speaker 3: but it's just one of those things where I'm wondering
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  Speaker 3: if there were.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, it's.
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  Speaker 3: Entirely possible all of this is coincidental and it's all
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  Speaker 3: due to individual issues that had no crossover from service
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  Speaker 3: to service. It's also possible that maybe there was something
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  Speaker 3: bigger happening that was kind of causing disruptions. I don't
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  Speaker 3: know the answer to that. It's probably more just coincidence
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  Speaker 3: than anything else, but it.
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  Speaker 2: It does kind of.
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  Speaker 3: It really hammers home that the world of streaming has
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  Speaker 3: both pros and cons. The pros being that when everything's working,
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  Speaker 3: you can watch whatever you want, assuming it's available whenever
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  Speaker 3: you want. Obviously, lots of cons like maybe what you
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  Speaker 3: want isn't on the service you're already subscribed to and
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  Speaker 3: you would have to subscribe to something else, or maybe
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  Speaker 3: it was available but the agreement lapsed and now it's
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  Speaker 3: not on there anymore, or lots of other issues, like
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  Speaker 3: to the point where again people like me have gone
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  Speaker 3: back to starting to collect physical media again just so
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  Speaker 3: that we don't run into that case where it's like
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  Speaker 3: I really have a hunker into watch Buckeroo Bondzai and
• 13:02
  Speaker 3: torture our friend of the show, shay Lee by making
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  Speaker 3: her watch it again. But it's not available on streaming anywhere,
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  Speaker 3: so I had to buy it on Blu Ray.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. I never stopped collecting physical media, though I have
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  Speaker 1: gotten rid of some stuff, and I am I am
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  Speaker 1: being more picky about the new stuff that I watch
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  Speaker 1: or that I buy. But the stuff that I'm like
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  Speaker 1: the Watchmen series from HBO or Doom Patrol or things
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  Speaker 1: that I'm worried might eventually completely disappear.
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  Speaker 3: That's valid, especially considering who owns HBO.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, but with that, let's talk about all the
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  Speaker 1: things at HBO and all these streaming services and everybody
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  Speaker 1: else are are bringing to the media with our thirty
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  Speaker 1: seconds or less.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and this time we got a ton of stories
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  Speaker 3: in this. And so I told Ariel before we started recording,
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  Speaker 3: before we started recording the first time, let alone the
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  Speaker 3: fourth time, that I was going to try very hard
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  Speaker 3: to not add anything to the end of her segments
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  Speaker 3: because we've got approximately seventy three entries into thirty seconds
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  Speaker 3: or less.
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  Speaker 1: You count, really good, guess how higher hello above it?
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  Speaker 1: And I don't know, you get the reward of guessing correctly.
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  Speaker 1: We don't have a budget, so the first story is
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  Speaker 1: that we have a run time for Kingdom of the
• 14:33
  Speaker 1: Planet of the Apes and talk about scope creep because
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  Speaker 1: the first it's long. It's long, you guys. The first
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  Speaker 1: Planet of the Apes new movie was one hundred and
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  Speaker 1: five minutes, the second was one hundred and thirty, the
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  Speaker 1: next was one hundred and forty, and the new one
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  Speaker 1: is one hundred and forty five minutes. It is two
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  Speaker 1: hours and twenty five minutes long. Almost two and a
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  Speaker 1: half hours long. I sure hope people enjoy it to
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  Speaker 1: make it worth sitting in a chair having to pee
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  Speaker 1: because you got too big of a soda for that long.
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  Speaker 3: Noted this past week, Disney held its shareholders meeting and
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  Speaker 3: there was a battle among some investors who want major
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  Speaker 3: changes at the board level now. Ultimately, Disney's CEO Bob
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  Speaker 3: Iger won the day, with shareholders backing his leadership and
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  Speaker 3: his board member picks for now at least. But two
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  Speaker 3: big takeaways were that shareholders want real succession planning for
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  Speaker 3: Iiger's eventual replacement because the last time it didn't work
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  Speaker 3: out so great, and they also want that streaming service
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  Speaker 3: stuff to start making money, please.
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  Speaker 1: I mean all that makes sense. We got a poster
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  Speaker 1: for Joker fully ado. I'm sorry to everybody who speaks
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  Speaker 1: franch who listens to us. I know I did not
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  Speaker 1: see it.
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  Speaker 2: Well.
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  Speaker 1: We're getting a trailer next week, but this week we
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  Speaker 1: got the poster. It shows Joaquin Phoenix dipping Lady Gaga
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  Speaker 1: as their characters in The Joker. We also got news
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  Speaker 1: that there will be at least fifteen reinterpretations of popular
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  Speaker 1: songs and maybe some original music, which turns this movie
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  Speaker 1: into Jonathan's favorite gen genre, A joke box musical.
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  Speaker 2: A joke box musical all right.
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  Speaker 3: The Fantastic Four film cast gets another name added to it,
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  Speaker 3: Julia Garner, who was an Ozark and is part of
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  Speaker 3: the upcoming but delayed Stay Tuned movie The Wolfman. Garner
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  Speaker 3: will be playing Shallabal and also the Silver Surfer. Now
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  Speaker 3: in the comics, Schallibal is an empress and she is
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  Speaker 3: the Silver Surfer's main squeeze if you catch my drift.
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  Speaker 3: Both characters have been heralds of Galactus in the past
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  Speaker 3: and the comic books, so.
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  Speaker 2: We'll have to see how this plays out in the movie.
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  Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to it. Atari has bought Roller Coaster
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  Speaker 1: Tycoon three from Frontier Developments. They bought it for seven
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  Speaker 1: million dollars, which means that they now own They're now
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  Speaker 1: the sole publisher of all major titles within Roller Coaster Tycoon,
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  Speaker 1: which I guess that makes them a roller coaster game Tycoon. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that's it.
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  Speaker 3: Wow, Okay, Well I'm just gonna kill a little time
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  Speaker 3: so that the music could play for all. Right. Hey,
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  Speaker 3: remember what I mentioned just a moment ago that Wolfman
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  Speaker 3: is being delayed. Well, yeah, it's being delayed. So the film,
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  Speaker 3: which is a joint venture between Universal and Plumhouse, has
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  Speaker 3: been pushed from late this year, which is twenty twenty
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  Speaker 3: four for those of y'all keeping count, to January seventeenth,
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  Speaker 3: twenty twenty five. And in the film, Christopher Abbott plays
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  Speaker 3: a father and husband whose family is terrorized by a
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: dangerous predator spoiler alert it's a were wolf maybe played
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  Speaker 3: by Julia Garner.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: What we'll have to see. Do you remember Matrix for
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  Speaker 1: the self referential ho home Matrix movie that came after
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  Speaker 1: the first three that got decreasingly in quality. That is
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  Speaker 1: my own personal opinion. If you love them that's awesome.
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  Speaker 1: I do enjoy them, even though I think the first
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  Speaker 1: was the strongest. Well, we're getting a fifth one, but
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  Speaker 1: this time it's being written and directed by Drew Goddard,
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  Speaker 1: and that makes me excited because he's done a lot
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  Speaker 1: of things I enjoy, including Cloverfield, Cabin in the Woods,
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  Speaker 1: The Martian, and the Netflix Stare Devil TV show. So
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  Speaker 1: here's hoping he can bring something cool new to the Matrix.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, so, first of all, I think Matrix four is
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  Speaker 3: better than both Matrix two and definitely Matrix three. And
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  Speaker 3: I actually really like the fourth Matrix film because I
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  Speaker 3: enjoyed it it. To me, it felt kind of like
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: Gremlin's two, where it's a sequel that is just like, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: we made the first one, we're really gonna skewer it now.
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  Speaker 3: And that's kind of how Matrix four came out. Like
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: as a Matrix film, I can see how it would
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: be disappointing, but as a commentary on the film and
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  Speaker 3: the culture that rose up around it, I found it
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  Speaker 3: really interesting. But yeah, I hated Matrix two, and I
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  Speaker 3: can't mean, I can't even say anything about Matrix three.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't mind Matrix two, but let's see if you
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  Speaker 1: enjoy this next number two.
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  Speaker 2: Oh my god. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: So I originally Ariel wrote this one down, but I
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  Speaker 3: decided to take it. So we knew already that HBO
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: was having a second season of Velmont that actually got
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: greenlit before the first season I had even finished publication.
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: But now we know when it's coming out.
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: And this is despite the fact that that first season
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: is objectively bad, Like that's not my opinion. It is
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: objectively a bad show. Okay, no, that is just my opinion. Anyway,
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: now we know season two is coming out starting April
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: twenty fifth, So get ready to hate watch because that's
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: what I'm gonna do. I know I'm gonna do it,
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: which is I don't I hate myself, I guess. Anyway,
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: that's this news item.
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: I I will, I will. I've watched one episode and
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: I will not watch more. So if you want to
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: get into comics and you're like, oh my gosh, there's
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: too many comics, don't worry. In twenty fifteen, they fixed
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: that with Ultimate Marble for Marvel Comics, not for DC.
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: But then there's a whole bunch of Ultimate Marvel comics now,
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: so they're rebooting it. This year, they're doing a new
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: reader friendly reboot of Marvel Earth six one six zero.
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: It's going to include Spider Man and Black Panther and
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: X Men. And the nice thing is, if you want
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: to get into the X Men comics, the first issue
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: just released. The second issue is releasing later this month,
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: and then the third one in October or no, sorry,
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: and then the third one will be releasing I think
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: in November. Anyhow. Yeah, if you want to get into
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: comics now, it's a good time.
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: If you like Marble, yeah, Occasionally comic book series have
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: to do these massive reboots because everything just gets so
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: convoluted and complicated that it's impossible to manage. See also
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: the Marvel Cinematic Universe. Okay, hey, remember when I said
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: that Disney shareholders want the company to figure out how
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: to make streaming profitable. Well, part of that involves cracking
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: down on password sharing. So starting in June, if Disney
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: suspects that you're using a shared password to access the service,
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: they're gonna send Mickey mouse over with a crowbar to
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: kneecat you. Sorry, I read that wrong. No, they'll send
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: you a little pop up that says, hey, you should
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: sign up to subscribe to this yourself, but they're also
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: going to introduce a paid sharing subscription tier, similar to
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: what Netflix is doing. So it worked for Netflix, we'll
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: see if it works for Disney Plus.
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: Very interesting. Apparently Maggie Gillenhall is directing a classic monster
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: movie called The Bride. They're saying it's long awaited this. Honestly,
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: I've probably read about it and then forgot about it,
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: which is surprising since I like classic movie monster stuff. Anyhow,
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: Jesse Buckley is The Ride and Christian Bale is Frankenstein,
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: and I'm talking about it because they've released some pictures
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: of it. It looks very like eighties punk esque, so
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: we will share those in our show notes.
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: Interesting, right, Like, so this makes me think of a
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: film that came out in nineteen eighty five, which was
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: also a Bride of Frankenstein film, but that one starts
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: Sting and Jennifer Beals. So when I saw this news item,
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: I was like, they're remaking The Bride, which is fine.
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: The Bride's a great movie. Disturbing movie just like you'
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: all know, but it is a great movie. I don't
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: know if this will have anything connected to that, apart
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: from the fact that it's drawing from the same general
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: source material. Okay, sorry, I know thirty seconds the last
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: I failed. All right, we all know that there's a
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: Fallout streaming series coming out soon. Well, Amazon subscribers. Amazon
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: Prime subscribers will also get to enjoy I guess is
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: the right word the online game Fallout seventy six for
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: free as part of the promotion for the series. Fallout
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: seventy six is set in and around West Virginia and
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: was heavily criticized when it first came out, though as
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: I understand it, it's a much better experience now. I
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: haven't revisited it since it first came out.
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: I need to.
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: If you've got Amazon Prime, you can try it out
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: for yourself soon for free. It's also on game Path,
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: so if you're a Game Best subscriber then you can
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: already do that.
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: So I think last week or the week before, we
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: talked about how Death is going to have a bigger
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: part in sam Man season two on Netflix, the character
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: of Death, and now we've gotten episode titles for sam
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: Man season two and I am just going to go
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: through what I think season two is going to hold
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: for us. This is just complete conjecture, but I believe
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: that this is also going to be a jukebox musical
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: kind of a spoof on other genres or things verymiga donah.
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: So we've got the Song of Orpheus, which is obviously
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: just going to be a Hades Town musical episode. We've
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: got More Devils than Vast Hell Can Hold, which is
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: going to be an animated episode that's Allah has been Hotel.
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: Brief Lives is going to be a quantum leaf leap spoof.
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: Family Blood will be Family Ties, and then Ruler of
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: Hell will be Beetlejuice. And Seasons of miss is the
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: only one I'm torn on. I don't know if it's
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: going to be a video game first person like the
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: Mist Game, or if it's just going to be them
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: seeing seasons of Love over and over and over again
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: until you go insane.
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: I am thankful that I am ninety nine percent sure
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: that that is not what Season two of The Sandman's
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: going to be. We will be talking about death again
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: once we get to our cactual news items. Yeah, okay, Well,
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: while we're getting a second and third season of Netflix's
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: adaptation of Avatar The Last Airbender, there's actually going to
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: be a different creative team in charge of seasons two
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: and three, because showrunner Albert Kim, who developed the series
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: for Netflix, is actually stepping away, and Christine Boyle and
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: Javara Sini well Rai Sani sorry, will be taking the
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: helm and both Boylan and ray Sanni have served in
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: a producer role for the first season. Albert Kim, meanwhile,
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: is reportedly shifting over to work on the Percy Jackson
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: series for Disney.
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: I really enjoy the Person Jackson series. Avatar's not bad.
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: Lastly for me and lastly in our thirty Seconds or less.
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: Is Nam, a visitor who played Major Kiera Maurice on
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: Star Trek d S eights nine, is writing a book.
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: It's called Star Trek An Open Channel, Open a Channel,
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: a women's Trek. It's all about the women behind the scenes,
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: in front of the screen or in front of the
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: camera in Star Trek, how they broke boundaries and ceilings
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: for women in general, and then also some of the
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: hardships that they went through being women in the industry
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: of that era, and how Star Trek, even when it
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: tries to be advanced, sometimes is victim to its own
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: era of things. I read another article about how Star
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: Trek only has old fans, So the book sounds really interesting.
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah, if you watch, for example, if you watch Star
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: Trek The Next Generation and you look at the uniforms
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: for women, especially early on in that series, it becomes
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: very clear that while they might profess sort of an
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: egalitarian approach and approach where women are equals to men,
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: that's not how it comes out in the uniforms, y'all.
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: That was you know, you didn't see the dudes walking
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: around in mini skirts in that first Next Generation or yeah,
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: Next Generation.
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: TNG, they wore pants.
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: Not originally. If you watch some of those early episodes,
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: there are ones where they have the little mini skirt
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: type thing going on, like Deanna Troy and as an example.
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: I always assumed that was but yeah, but like Crusher
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: war pants, that was just a fashion choice.
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: She was a doctor lady though, so doctor ladies are
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: different from.
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: Ladies and Antiana choice planet that women don't wear clothes
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: because they're much happier with their they dezoid.
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: In This isn't the Orville. We didn't have episodes exploring
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: casual nudity unless Lwa Sana Troy was on there.
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: Yes, but she was on the show.
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: So occasionally as a guest.
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: It was like a joke.
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: It wasn't like a regular member of the crew.
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: I just summing it up as saying Star Trek had
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: high aspirations that it did not always live up to,
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: but at least it had the aspirations to begin with.
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, and it's it's still trying, and I enjoy
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: season three of the final season. It might before the
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: final season of Discovery just dropped, so I'll be watching
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: that and the Card and then I'll be caught up
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: on all of my Star Trek except for Lower Decks.
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: I feel like I'm all caught up and I haven't
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: watched anything since like the second Star Trek Next Iteration film.
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: I really enjoy Strange Strange New Worlds a lot more
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: than the first, but the first reason I also enjoyed.
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, are we ready to segue into our actual stories?
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: I think this hour long conversation about women's clothing choices
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: in Star Trek has already segued us there.
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: Well, I mean the first the first item in our
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: list doesn't relate to that, so I think we're okay.
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: We watched another trailer for Boy Kills World.
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: This is the revenge movie that features a character who
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: is deaf and mute has actually gone deaf and mute,
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: he wasn't born that way and has h John Benjamin's
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: voice as his inner voice his head and it's it
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: looks like a gonzo revenge film that has elements of
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: like The Running Man in it. And why'd you think
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: of the trailer?
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: I was worried because it's a Red Band trailer and
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: it was super super you know, they make things that
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: are not safe for work, and it actually looked fun.
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: It looked like even though it was going to be gory,
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: that it looked like it was going to be fun.
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: I think it's going to be more bloody than that
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: outright gory, like here's nothing.
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: A lot of blood.
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: Spatters, but not like not like in trails every although
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: maybe I don't know, but it definitely I think.
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: I said the last time.
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: We talked about boy Kill's World that it looks like
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: it's more in line with the spirit of Borderlands than
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: the Borderlands trailer was, and I still feel that way.
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: I agree, and I am looking forward to it because
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: I think Bill scars Guard is that he's the main
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: character is a good actor, and now he won't be
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: playing a creepy clown. I don't think.
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe he'll still do that weird thing with his
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: eyes that he can do.
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: But befo or drool out of the center of his lip,
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: Like I get it. I can blow air out of
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: one of my eyeballs. It's cool to have weird human tricks.
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: But yeah, yeah I can.
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: I can do taxes in my sleep, like that's mine.
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: But I had known.
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah, sorry, I haven't been sleeping so well this past
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: couple of months, So I don't know how good a
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: job I would do. I didn't say i'd do him great,
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: like there's been a lot of audits, so but no,
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: I like this trailer. I definitely anticipate like this. This
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: feels like one of those movies where it's outside the
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: normal realm that you see in Hollywood, and it's in
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: a way that tickles me.
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: It.
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: Actually again, I'm talking about the spirit, not the style
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: of filmmaking. But it reminds me of do you remember
• 31:02
  Speaker 3: that action movie I can't remember the name of it
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: now that was shot like totally from first person perspective,
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: Like it was like hardcore Harry or something.
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: Like that.
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: I think that was it. Yeah, wasn't the Guns for
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: Hands one with Daniel Redcliffe.
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: No, no, no, I'm thinking about what it was. The
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: whole concept was that it was a full action movie
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: and you're seeing it from the first person perspective of.
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: The guy running through everything.
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: That Also, it kind of has that same sort of
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: anarchic spirit to it. Again, stylistically, totally different movie, but
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: I feel like the same kind of creative energy went
• 31:42
  Speaker 3: into it, and I'm all for.
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: It me too. Also, this is a director, he's a
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: German German director. More, it's more who, at least according
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: to his IMDb, has not done a lot of stuff
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: that's made you know us television film, so he's got
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: a fairly short im list. So I'm excited to see
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: something that is new and fresh.
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: Yes, And just to follow up, it was hardcore Henry,
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: not hardcore Harry. So I was close considering how terrible
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: my memory is, I'm going to give myself a point
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: on that one.
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And I looked it up and I still went, yeah,
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: that's Harry. So I'm going to detract one from me.
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: Next up, we got another follow up on an upcoming
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: film that you know we talked about in a previous
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: episode when the trailer first broke, which is the Ministry
• 32:33
  Speaker 3: of Ungentlemanly Warfare that Henry Cavill and Alan Richardson and
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: others are in, and we got another teaser. There's also
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: some first glimpses that are out there. I saw two
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: different ones of two very short excerpts from scenes that
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: kind of give a feel for this. This also has
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: like an anarchic spirit to it.
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Uh not not a hugely new concept, and only
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: partly because it's based loosely on real life activities, but
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: it does look fun, yea.
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: For those who for those who don't remember.
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: What this is, could you give like a little like
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: high overview of what the sure?
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, So Winston Churchill had a group of like secret
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: fighter people who they're they're like special forces in World
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: War two to fight Nazis, so vaguely inglorious bastard ze.
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, very much.
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: So.
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: It looks like it's going to be violent and tongue
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: in cheek, which is just a genre we get a
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: lot of lately. But it looks fun.
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, there's the sequences I saw.
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: There was one where they are encountering a German warship
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: on the ocean, and the war is firing a gun
• 34:01
  Speaker 3: at the boat that they're in and slowly kind of
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: dialing in the distance of where they are in compared
• 34:08
  Speaker 3: because they're in a little boat compared to the big warship.
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: And meanwhile, it turns out that one of the operatives
• 34:15
  Speaker 3: had infiltrated the boat and planted explosives right next to
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: their gunpowder room essentially, and so they're just saying they're
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: waiting and seeing if the explosives go off before the
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: Germans are able to find the correct range to fire
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: on their boat. So that was one, and then the
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: other one involved Alan Richardson shooting arrows through Nazis at
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: not into but through them because the dude is like
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: a frickin mountain of a man. And apparently the bow
• 34:43
  Speaker 3: he was using was like a two hundred and fifty
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: pound bow or something.
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: I mean that, that's cool. That's cool. It's also a
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: movie if you if you want to see pretty people
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: being tongue in cheek. Cast is very pretty, that's true.
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: It gives me vaguely like suicide squad.
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: Vibes, which makes sense because the suicide squad, Yes, the
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: Suicide Squad. And it makes sense because, like from everything
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: I've heard, that was essentially a real world version of
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: the Suicide Squad, Like these folks were being sent on
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: a mission that was almost certain to fail, and reportedly
• 35:28
  Speaker 3: like they lost support from from the UK halfway through
• 35:34
  Speaker 3: it and still kept going. So it definitely has Suicide
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: Squad vibes in more ways than one.
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: And when those people died, they came back as ghosts
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: to solve more crimes in mysteries.
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: You might be mixing that up with our next one.
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: Oh goodness, gracious, let me straight, Jonathan.
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: So we got the trailer for a Dead Boy Detective Agency.
• 35:59
  Speaker 3: These these are characters that were created for Neil by
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: Neil Gaman for the Sandman series originally. In fact, the
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: characters show up in the first season of Sandman, though
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: they're played by different actors. There is an episode of
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: The Sandman in the first season where the Dead Boy
• 36:16
  Speaker 3: Detectives are are featured, which I only know because I
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: read the article about it. Because I didn't watch the
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: first season of Sandman.
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: I don't.
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: I don't remember them showing up. I do remember them
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: showing up in Doom Patrol. They were also different acts.
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: Doom Patrol is what I meant and not Sandman. Thank
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: you Ariel, because that is the show that I should
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: have said. Yes, Doom Patrol is where they showed up, yeah,
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: played by different actors. But now now they're getting their
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: own series, different actors obviously, and we got the trailer
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: for it. The trailer looks interesting, although I really wish
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: they had picked a different song besides Black Parade to
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: be the background. Yeah, it looks both fun and scary
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: and serious. I like shows that kind of jump around
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: the genres. It really feels like it's gonna scratch an
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: itch for people who are said sad that like Lockwooding Co.
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: Got canceled or that Supernatural ended, those similar kind of vibes.
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: As far as I know, because I've had some some
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: people a little confused about this, I don't think that
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: Lockwooden Co. Is in the same world as Dead Boy Detectives,
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: though it does have a very similar vibe.
• 37:27
  Speaker 3: So and and the character of Death shows up in
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: the triggler for uh dead Boy Detective Agency, Like they
• 37:35
  Speaker 3: actually mention that they're they're kind of like literally on
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: the run from death.
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Uh so, so like that's that's.
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: Great that they have that very brief appearance of the
• 37:51
  Speaker 3: character of Death in the trailer. I also wanted to
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: mention that when I was looking up information about this,
• 37:57
  Speaker 3: I saw I saw that the person who wrote the
• 37:59
  Speaker 3: pilot episode is Steve Yacky, and that just delights me
• 38:04
  Speaker 3: because that's someone I know. That's someone that I've known
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: for more than twenty years because back when I first
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: started going to Dad's Garage Theater, which I've talked about
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: a few times on this show, Steve Yacky was the
• 38:20
  Speaker 3: marketing director for the theater. He actually lived next door
• 38:24
  Speaker 3: to the theater when it was on its original location
• 38:27
  Speaker 3: here in Atlanta off Elizabeth Street, and he shared an
• 38:31
  Speaker 3: apartment with another person named Laura Gunderson. And if you're
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: into plays, you might know Laura Gunderson as the most
• 38:39
  Speaker 3: produced playwright in America. So these two people shared an
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: apartment together, Laura Gunderson and Steve Yacky, and then they
• 38:49
  Speaker 3: both went on to do these phenomenal things, which means
• 38:52
  Speaker 3: I want to play about the time where they were
• 38:55
  Speaker 3: roommates in Atlanta, living next to an improv theater in
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: a busted old building, because that, to me is a
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: rich mind for material.
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that sounds like it would be fun. I would
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: I would watch that. So much good talent comes out
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: of Atlanta.
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it really does.
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: Like if you watch, if you watch films and TV,
• 39:20
  Speaker 3: you're bound to see actors some of whom we personally
• 39:24
  Speaker 3: know or have worked with in the past, and they're
• 39:29
  Speaker 3: doing great stuff.
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: Like heck, the new show Manhunt about John wicks Booth
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: that has come out, there's a bunch of local Atlanta
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: actors that I know.
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's cool when you see someone you're like,
• 39:41
  Speaker 3: oh my gosh, I saw them in a show like
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: ten years ago, or I acted in a show with them,
• 39:49
  Speaker 3: Like that's really cool.
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: I suspect we're going to have a lot more of
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: that because the Georgia is keeping it's it's current incentives
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: to keep the industry here.
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: We might I mean it's tough, right because I mean,
• 40:04
  Speaker 3: you know this as an actor, like a lot of
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: actors from Atlanta who end up working a lot in
• 40:10
  Speaker 3: Atlanta actually have to move out of Atlanta to get
• 40:13
  Speaker 3: considered for parts frequently, not as much now as it
• 40:17
  Speaker 3: was maybe five years ago, but because there's a lot
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: more video auditions that happen now, but back then, like
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: I know so many people who moved out of Atlanta
• 40:27
  Speaker 3: to Los Angeles and then they started getting work and
• 40:31
  Speaker 3: all their work happened to be back in Atlanta, but
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: they needed to maintain a space in LA in order
• 40:37
  Speaker 3: to really be considered for parts. So it's it's kind
• 40:40
  Speaker 3: of a weird paradox.
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, there's there's weird location stuff in sag after
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: It not weird, it's not even bad. It just it
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: makes it tricky if you want an audition by coastal.
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: But yeah, video auditions are more of a thing. That
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: was actually one of the things that was in the
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: contract because some people want to get back in the room.
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: That was a very not full sentence, but anyhow, I
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: can talk about it forever. There are more lead roles
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: for actors coming out of Atlanta now being given to
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: Atlanta actors as a choice. For a while there, Atlanta
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: had such a small part of the industry and there
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: were so few film actors that they could kind of
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: just dial it in, which you know, is a hard
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: reputation to come back for. But there are a lot
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: of actors who are really putting in the time in
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: the work to be professional and be good and they
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: are succeeding, so I suspect the trend will continue to favor.
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: There are a bunch of big actors who have moved
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: to Atlanta as their full time base.
• 41:41
  Speaker 3: Now speaking of a big time actor who worked in
• 41:45
  Speaker 3: Atlanta for some time because he was on The Walking
• 41:48
  Speaker 3: Dead and that's where it shot. We have a little
• 41:52
  Speaker 3: interesting update about someone who appears to be involved in
• 41:59
  Speaker 3: the new season of Daredevil that'll be coming up.
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, this probably could have gone in thirty seconds or less,
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: but John Barenthal, who played the Punisher on Netflix, will
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: is confirmed to be in the new Daredevil SSY series
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: with him in a series for Disney. Plus. You're welcome
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: for that beautiful journey I just took you.
• 42:17
  Speaker 3: On, yeah, which I could have edited out, but she
• 42:20
  Speaker 3: just kept going, So we're going to keep it now.
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: So yeah, he's going to be in it, and there
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: are some pictures of that probably could have been the
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: thirty seconds or.
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: Less probably, but like, I'm excited. I So, I never
• 42:37
  Speaker 3: watched the Punisher series when it was on Netflix, but
• 42:42
  Speaker 3: I watched I obviously I saw the Punisher show up
• 42:47
  Speaker 3: in Daredevil, and I really liked the interpretation of the
• 42:54
  Speaker 3: Punisher in the Daredevil series.
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: I thought that it was really effective.
• 42:58
  Speaker 3: And Parenthal does a great job, as you know, obviously
• 43:03
  Speaker 3: a vengeful man who's a man of few words but
• 43:07
  Speaker 3: lots of punching and shooting.
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I agree. I enjoyed the first season of
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: The Punisher about seventy five percent. There are a couple
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: of the characters that I didn't enjoy their journey as much,
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: and the second season kind of lost me. But I
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: do enjoy his dynamic with Daredevil, and I'm looking for
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: it to well.
• 43:29
  Speaker 3: Speaking of another entry that probably could have just gone
• 43:32
  Speaker 3: into thirty seconds or less, but I was like, I
• 43:34
  Speaker 3: watched this, Now Ariel has to watch it too.
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: We got we had already watched it.
• 43:39
  Speaker 3: Oh h okay, well then we both we both saw it.
• 43:42
  Speaker 3: It was the teaser trailer for The Descendants for now.
• 43:48
  Speaker 3: I have never watched any of The Descendants. I don't
• 43:52
  Speaker 3: I only know that it's it follows characters who are
• 43:56
  Speaker 3: supposed to be the descendant of like an iconic Disney villain, right, so,
• 44:02
  Speaker 3: like you've got the children or whatever of famous Disney villains,
• 44:08
  Speaker 3: which raises a lot of troubling questions. As to how
• 44:10
  Speaker 3: some of these Disney villains found a partner, but I'm
• 44:14
  Speaker 3: not gonna think about.
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: That too hard. Uh yeah, yeah.
• 44:19
  Speaker 3: So the Descendants for introduces Red, who I'm guessing since
• 44:23
  Speaker 3: she uses she draws hearts all over things in a
• 44:29
  Speaker 3: nondescript hallway, must be the descendant of the Queen of
• 44:33
  Speaker 3: Hearts from Alice in Wonderland.
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: Correct. Correct? Okay, I think this one also filmed in
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: the South, but that's neither hearing her there. I haven't
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: watched I've watched a little bit of Descendants I have.
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: I have some young individuals who visit my house once
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: a year for Thanksgiving and they enjoy watching it, so
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: I watched it with them, and then I've watched a
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: little bit on my own out of care because I
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: like fairy tales, it is made for a younger audience
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: than I, though I do appreciate some of it. What
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: I really appreciate about this season, at least, is that Brandy,
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: who played Cinderella in the nineteen ninety seven version of
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: Rogers and Hammerstein Cinderella that Disney did is back as Cinderella.
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: That's really cool.
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and her husband is the same husband, And I'm
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: trying to remember his name, but same actor, Yeah, the
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: same actor. It's shoot, what is his name, Paulo Montabon
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: montbon no cool, who is like a well known actor.
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: I just can't pronounce his name when I read it.
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: But yeah, they were in the nineteen ninety seven musical
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: that had Whitney Houston as the fairy Godmother and Whoopi
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: Goldberg as the Queen, Prince Charming's mother, So yeah, they're
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: in it. I talked to a good mutual friend of ours, Jen,
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: who's also an awesome writer at Fampbolet, who was like,
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: I think that's a ret coon. She and I watched
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: so many Disney things that were made for younger people
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: than us.
• 46:21
  Speaker 3: The shock that I'm experiencing right now is overwhelming.
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: But no, I like if it is a retcon. I
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: like that retcon because I enjoyed that version of the
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: musical and I'm glad that they're tying it into the
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: greater world.
• 46:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I like part of me is curious about the
• 46:40
  Speaker 3: Descendants because I've always thought the aesthetic was kind of interesting.
• 46:44
  Speaker 3: I mean, it's a very it's a very kind of
• 46:48
  Speaker 3: sanitized punk glam look for a lot of the characters,
• 46:52
  Speaker 3: which I kind of dig I mean they even use
• 46:54
  Speaker 3: the song Bad Reputation in this teaser, which is, you know,
• 46:56
  Speaker 3: a Joan Jett and the Blackheart song, which is great.
• 46:59
  Speaker 3: But the aesthetic has appealed to me, but the age
• 47:04
  Speaker 3: of the actors always kind of keyed off to me, like, oh,
• 47:07
  Speaker 3: this is sort of a preteens kind of series of films,
• 47:11
  Speaker 3: and I probably wouldn't get much out of it, so
• 47:15
  Speaker 3: I've never actually watched them. But it is also one
• 47:17
  Speaker 3: of those things where I will see coseplays where I'm like, Oh,
• 47:21
  Speaker 3: it's a really cool interpretation of a character, then find
• 47:23
  Speaker 3: out that, oh, no, this was a screen accurate cosplay
• 47:26
  Speaker 3: of a character from The Descendants.
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: You just didn't know because you're old and out of touch.
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I see less causeplays from the new Interview with
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: a Vampire show.
• 47:36
  Speaker 3: Well that's only because it's just been out for a season.
• 47:39
  Speaker 3: But we did get a trailer for season two.
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: We did, what did you think?
• 47:44
  Speaker 3: Well, I haven't watched the first season, so that's part
• 47:48
  Speaker 3: of my issue is that, and I never read the book.
• 47:52
  Speaker 3: I did see the Tom Cruise Brad Pitt film when
• 47:56
  Speaker 3: that came out Ancient History Times because I saw that
• 48:00
  Speaker 3: when it came out, and I saw it in the theater. Yeah,
• 48:05
  Speaker 3: like that, back when I went to things like theaters,
• 48:07
  Speaker 3: I saw it there, and that's my only experience with
• 48:11
  Speaker 3: the interview with the Vampire, the bits that I saw.
• 48:13
  Speaker 3: I'm like, well, this feels, you know, like it's it's
• 48:18
  Speaker 3: it's fittingly gothic and very romantic's the wrong word. I mean,
• 48:26
  Speaker 3: it's it's sexy, Like, it feels like it's a very
• 48:29
  Speaker 3: sexy kind of show, which also gets real creepy because
• 48:35
  Speaker 3: one of the characters is a vampire who was turned
• 48:39
  Speaker 3: as a young girl as the Kirsten Dunst played her,
• 48:43
  Speaker 3: I think in the original Yeah, she won an oscar
• 48:45
  Speaker 3: for that, As I recall. Anyway, that's always it's meant
• 48:51
  Speaker 3: to be a creepy element of the story, Like that
• 48:55
  Speaker 3: was the intention from the get go. So to say
• 48:57
  Speaker 3: that they're succeeding is, I guess a good thing. I
• 49:02
  Speaker 3: personally found that particular storyline to be really unsettling, and again.
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: That was that's how it was meant to be. But
• 49:10
  Speaker 2: it doesn't mean that.
• 49:11
  Speaker 3: I enjoyed it. You're right, Like I appreciated the effect
• 49:15
  Speaker 3: that the art had on me. I did not enjoy
• 49:17
  Speaker 3: the experience.
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree as far as sexy Go isn't like
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: Ann Riis writes romance novels, right, romance.
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: Is putting it.
• 49:29
  Speaker 3: Romance is putting a very nice word for what she wrote.
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: Yes, so that doesn't surprise me. I also watched the
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: original one, though not when it came out in the
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: theaters with Tom Cruise and Brad Pitt and Christen Kirsten
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: Dunst in it.
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: And Antonio Banderis.
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I remember very little about it, honestly, just enough.
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: I mean, the show looks like it's very well done.
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: It looks like the acting is great. It does vaguely
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: give me like it evokes the feeling of the flashbacks
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: in Buffy.
• 50:04
  Speaker 3: And Angel, but at a higher production at.
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: A higher production value. Yeah, I meant to watch season one.
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: I kind of honest. I'm gonna be real honest here.
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: I kind of shied away from it because of how
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: sexy it looked. But it looks like the story is
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: told very well.
• 50:23
  Speaker 3: So yeah. I to the point where when I saw
• 50:28
  Speaker 3: this teaser or this trailer, I was wondering if they
• 50:33
  Speaker 3: had not introduced Lestat in the first season, because there's
• 50:37
  Speaker 3: a sequence in the trailer where they're.
• 50:39
  Speaker 2: Like, that's Thestat.
• 50:42
  Speaker 3: Like it felt like that was supposed to be the
• 50:43
  Speaker 3: introduction of that character into the series, And I'm thinking, wow,
• 50:47
  Speaker 3: did they go a full season without bringing the Stat
• 50:50
  Speaker 3: into the show.
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: Because that's bold.
• 50:53
  Speaker 3: That's probably the character that most people are familiar with
• 50:57
  Speaker 3: when you talk about Interview with the Vampire. That's Cruse's
• 51:00
  Speaker 3: character in the film. And also like subsequent books in
• 51:05
  Speaker 3: the series focus primarily on Lstat, or at least there
• 51:09
  Speaker 3: is one that's about Lastat called the Vampire Lestat in fact,
• 51:14
  Speaker 3: So I thought, wow, if that, in fact is the
• 51:18
  Speaker 3: first introduction of that character into the series, it's a
• 51:22
  Speaker 3: very bold choice to go a full season without doing that.
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't know the answer to that question, having
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: not watched the first season.
• 51:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe one of our listeners can give us a
• 51:33
  Speaker 3: heads up, because I mean, if Lstat wasn't it in
• 51:36
  Speaker 3: the first season and this is just sort of another
• 51:39
  Speaker 3: moment of Lestat's revelation to a larger audience or something,
• 51:43
  Speaker 3: that's fine. But the implication I got was that, oh no,
• 51:48
  Speaker 3: this is where we're bringing this character in. And I'm like, wow,
• 51:51
  Speaker 3: to go a full season without arguably the more famous
• 51:56
  Speaker 3: of the two characters who are kind of the primary
• 51:59
  Speaker 3: focus of that story. That's that's incredible.
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, less incredible for me at least. Yeh is
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: the National Wildlife Services new like horror campaign that they're doing,
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: which includes Bambi the Reckoning, which we just got a
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: teaser for.
• 52:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah, this is actually not part of Smoking the Bear's posse.
• 52:26
  Speaker 3: This is this is part of the and this is
• 52:28
  Speaker 3: not my term, this is their term. This is part
• 52:31
  Speaker 3: of the poonaverse from the you know, Winnie the Pooh,
• 52:37
  Speaker 3: Blood and Honey movie, like we talked to earlier about
• 52:41
  Speaker 3: how they were going to be spinoffs as well as
• 52:43
  Speaker 3: a big like ensemble film kind of the Avenger's style,
• 52:48
  Speaker 3: except was going to have all these characters who are
• 52:51
  Speaker 3: ip that are now in the public domain. So Bambi
• 52:55
  Speaker 3: the Reckoning is part of the poonaverse. And we got
• 52:58
  Speaker 3: a teaser trailer and yeah, it's it's Bambi's back and
• 53:04
  Speaker 3: out for revenge.
• 53:05
  Speaker 2: He's ticked off.
• 53:06
  Speaker 3: At what Hunters did to his mom. And yeah, if
• 53:10
  Speaker 3: you don't know what I'm talking about, you need to
• 53:12
  Speaker 3: watch the original Bambi and prepare yourself for trauma. That
• 53:14
  Speaker 3: will sit with you for the rest of your life. Yeah,
• 53:19
  Speaker 3: what was your reaction? Like, I almost didn't put this
• 53:22
  Speaker 3: in because one, I think it looks terrible. Two I
• 53:26
  Speaker 3: don't think that it's clever or funny. And three obviously
• 53:31
  Speaker 3: it's gonna at least imply animal endangerment and I know
• 53:35
  Speaker 3: that's a huge trigger for you, Ariel, So I almost
• 53:37
  Speaker 3: didn't put it in here. But at the same time,
• 53:39
  Speaker 3: I was like, it's so dumb. I don't know if
• 53:41
  Speaker 3: it's gonna affect.
• 53:42
  Speaker 2: You or not.
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: It didn't because I didn't think about it too hard.
• 53:47
  Speaker 3: I h.
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: Hen hence the joke about it being the National Wildlife Service,
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: which did do great work not dissing them at all.
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: I almost put like it's Pete's new campaign on hey
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: be nice to animals or they'll get their revenge. Why
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: the Poo's a bear and Tiggers a tiger, and Piglets
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: a pig and Bambi's a deer. I thought the production
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: value looked good.
• 54:11
  Speaker 3: But it definitely looks like it's a step above the
• 54:14
  Speaker 3: first Winnie Blood and Honey film.
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's not for me. Yeah, it's just it's
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: not for me, And I like, like is it? Like,
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: is the wrong word. I appreciated a lot of a
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: lot of fairy Tales for the darker versions of them,
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: just from like a bizarre standpoint, and I enjoyed Dropouts
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: Never After, which was a kind of like a fairy
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: Tale Horde role playing game that ended up being very
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: funny but also had some scary elements. But this just
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: doesn't It just doesn't do it for me.
• 54:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't.
• 55:00
  Speaker 3: I can't shake the feeling that these films are based
• 55:03
  Speaker 3: on premises that would work as like a short, but
• 55:09
  Speaker 3: are far too thin to support a feature length film,
• 55:12
  Speaker 3: right Like you, you watch it and you're like, this
• 55:16
  Speaker 3: is all based on essentially a joke, like what if?
• 55:19
  Speaker 3: But now horror, that's essentially what the joke is, And
• 55:23
  Speaker 3: you can't really, I don't know that you can support
• 55:26
  Speaker 3: a full film that way, just based on that premise,
• 55:29
  Speaker 3: and I am not convinced that there's anything more to
• 55:31
  Speaker 3: it than that premise. Honestly, when I watch this teaser,
• 55:36
  Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, this also feels like it could have
• 55:38
  Speaker 3: been set in the Cocaine Bear universe, and it would
• 55:43
  Speaker 3: have been just as much of a fit there as
• 55:47
  Speaker 3: it would be in the so called Pooh diverse.
• 55:51
  Speaker 2: I hate that so much.
• 55:52
  Speaker 3: I can't tell you how much I hate that.
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I I don't like it. I get that they're
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: being clever. It's just not my kind of humor. You know.
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: The next horror film, Cuckoo, also that you put in here,
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: also looks pretty cleverer. It's about a bird that goes
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: to a summer camp for kids.
• 56:15
  Speaker 3: That's not what that's about. That's the next one. Oh shoot,
• 56:18
  Speaker 3: Cuckoo is not about, though you're thinking Woody Woodpecker goes
• 56:22
  Speaker 3: to camp.
• 56:22
  Speaker 2: Hold onto your pants, y'all.
• 56:23
  Speaker 3: We'll be talking about that in a second now, Cuckoo.
• 56:28
  Speaker 3: So I put this in here because when I watched
• 56:31
  Speaker 3: the trailer, I thought, as the trailer ended, I thought,
• 56:36
  Speaker 3: this is kind of my favorite type of horror movie
• 56:40
  Speaker 3: trailer in that it gives me a feel for the
• 56:44
  Speaker 3: tone and the vibe of the movie. But I couldn't
• 56:48
  Speaker 3: tell you what the movie's actually about, right, Like, it
• 56:51
  Speaker 3: doesn't spell the plot out from beginning to end, and
• 56:55
  Speaker 3: that there's a lot left to discover. If I had
• 56:58
  Speaker 3: to kind of describe it, I would say that a
• 57:04
  Speaker 3: family is traveling and goes to a town that they
• 57:09
  Speaker 3: are not familiar with, and then there's strange stuff happening
• 57:14
  Speaker 3: there that is of a dangerous level, whether or not
• 57:19
  Speaker 3: that's supernatural or maybe there's a cult situation going on
• 57:24
  Speaker 3: or something else, Like I don't know, I don't is
• 57:29
  Speaker 3: this a cult movie? Is it? Is it a zombie movie?
• 57:33
  Speaker 3: Is it a ghost movie? I don't know the answer
• 57:35
  Speaker 3: to that, and that I think is really interesting. Also,
• 57:39
  Speaker 3: the title cuckoo to me suggests the birds that you know.
• 57:46
  Speaker 2: Isn't it the cuckoo? Isn't that one of those birds.
• 57:49
  Speaker 3: That lays its eggs and nests of other birds?
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: I don't. I mean it is a bird, I don't,
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: I could. I don't know about its egg laying.
• 57:57
  Speaker 3: Well, I'm just thinking like, if that's the case, that
• 58:00
  Speaker 3: might be part of the theme.
• 58:03
  Speaker 2: Of the film.
• 58:04
  Speaker 3: Although now that I say it out loud, I'm like,
• 58:06
  Speaker 3: you're probably thinking of mocking bird and you're just getting
• 58:08
  Speaker 3: your birds mixed up, Jonathan.
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: So, I mean, I don't know listeners who are who
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: are or listeners who know about birds.
• 58:17
  Speaker 3: At themologists if you have really good eyesight and you've
• 58:20
  Speaker 3: seen a lot of birds.
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: So I'm gonna tell you, because this movie came out
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: as like a like a. It's it's been shown at
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: some festivals. Right now it's getting a wider release, so
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: I was able to find the plot. I'm not going
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: to spoil anything for you, but it is also as
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: bizarre as the trailer, so it holds up there. I
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: did read one review where they said they wished that
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: that it had leaned more into being a B movie,
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: which I thought was interesting. But I think this fits
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: in our lineup just because it's got a huge slew
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: of like geeky act I met Dan Stevens who was
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: in Legion and Dalton Abbey and was Beast in the
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: Live action Beauty and the Beast, Jessica Henwick who was
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: in Iron Fist, Jemma chan who was in Captain Marvel
• 59:14
  Speaker 1: as well as The Immortals Eternals. She's a brilliant actor.
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: Don't hold that movie against her. And then Sophia Boutella
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: who was in The Kingsman's Stuff, and John Malkovich. And
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: it's got a crazy cast.
• 59:35
  Speaker 3: And like I said, like the trailer really appealed to
• 59:38
  Speaker 3: me because I still wasn't sure what was going on
• 59:41
  Speaker 3: by the end of it, but I dug what I saw,
• 59:44
  Speaker 3: So this is one that's on my list of movies
• 59:47
  Speaker 3: to see. So I'm excited about Cuckoo.
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: I look forward to hearing your review about it.
• 59:53
  Speaker 3: I look forward to hearing your review of Woody Woodpecker
• 59:56
  Speaker 3: Goes to Camp because there ain't no reality in the
• 59:59
  Speaker 3: multiverse where I've gone to see that movie.
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: Do I have to.
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 3: You know, I know more young people than I do.
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: I do they might be aging out of this, But.
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 3: That's actually one of the things I went. Okay, trailer
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 3: Woody Woodpecker Goes to Camp. It's a mix of live
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 3: action and animation. Woody Woodpicker is animated. Part of what
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 3: I wanted to ask you is that is Woody Woodpecker
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 3: still a relevant character? Have there been any Woody Woodpecker
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 3: cartoons in like the last thirty years that I just
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 3: don't know about?
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: There were? Okay, there was a twenty seventeen movie.
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 2: Tibbal has a lot to say about this too.
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I'm not surprised there was a twenty seventeen movie,
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: you know, and I watched things like Yogi Bear and
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: Woody Woodpecker and Wacky Races and all mcgilla Gorilla and Jabberjol,
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: all those really old Hanna Barbara type cartoons, and I
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 1: enjoyed them when I was young, even though like they
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: came came out a lot of times before my time,
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 1: I was watching reruns, but I never felt like, what
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: are you? The Woodpecker was the kind of character that
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 1: needed to be around today because it's just kind of
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: an annoying troublemaker. It's a very Dennis the Menace kind
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: to use another old term that our younger listeners may
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: not know, just just a character that goes out and
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: wreaks havoc and has an annoying catchphrase.
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 3: It's it's kind of a thing and they lean into
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 3: that laugh so hard in this trailer that by the
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 3: end of it, I just wanted to stab my eyes out. Yeah,
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 3: it was just the thing, like and it's just it plays.
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 2: Oh it's like a nightmare.
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 3: Like it could have turned into a horror movie trailer
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 3: by the end of it and I would not have
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 3: been surprised.
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Uh. The weird thing for me about this it's
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 1: got it's got some bigger actors and it but it's
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: a weird mix of cgi and humans.
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 3: It doesn't Yeah, there's characters besides Woody Woodpecker who are animated,
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 3: like there was like a walrus character and some others
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 3: where that threw me off too because to seeing like
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 3: real life human beings and then the occasional CGI character
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 3: is I don't know, it's weirder to me. Like, I
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 3: think I'm good with either going all in where everything
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 3: is animated, or you have it where just a single
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 3: character is animated and everyone else's live action. But unless
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 3: you're who framed Roger Rabbit, trying to mess with that
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 3: mix more than that is really tricky without just making
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 3: me feel like it's not focused.
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean like they've done it with like
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 1: Alvin and the Chipmunks and things like that, But I
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: think it works better if you've got one character or
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: like the main character Slash Chara as as the animated portion,
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 1: and then everybody else is human, including the villain. Yeah,
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 1: because yeah, if it were just a movie with people
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: in Woody Woodpecker visually, I could get behind it more.
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: But to have the villain be animated and then to
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 1: have this random third Walrusk person that kind of looks
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 1: like a human cartoon human be animated just it's too
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: incongruous for my brain. Eyes.
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I couldn't.
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 3: I couldn't figure out who this was supposed to appeal to.
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 3: But that was largely because since I was unaware of
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 3: the earlier film. Like I just when you think about
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 3: certain cultural touchstones, I can't imagine Woody Woodpecker being way
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 3: up there with characters like Mickey Mouse, you know, or
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 3: or Sonic or Mario or like these are Sonic and
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 3: Mario or characters that are have been around for ages too, right,
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 3: and like, but they've had a persis since that. Woody Woodpecker,
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 3: I would argue, hasn't really had like Woody Woodpecker even
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 3: in his day was not like top tier. You still
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 3: had like Bugs Bunny and Daffy Duck, and you had
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 3: the Disney characters who were Garfield and the Chipmunks. Well
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 3: even that, like Woody Pecker definitely predates Garfield. But yeah,
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 3: but you're like you think of Looney Tunes, you think
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 3: of the Disney characters, like those were top tier. Then
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 3: you had characters like Tom and Jerry, you know, that
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 3: were a slightly lower level. And then I think right
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 3: around Tom and Jerry maybe a little below is like
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 3: Woody Woodpecker. That's that's my own personal kind of ranking system,
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 3: not even ranking in quality, just in terms of popularity
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 3: and you know awareness. So that's why I was surprised
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 3: to see this trailer because I was like, is.
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 2: Woody Woodpecker still a thing?
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 3: Or is this an example of a movie studio trying
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 3: to cash in on an existing ip that they happened
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 3: to have the rights to.
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 1: I wonder if it's that la bit. I mean, we
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 1: get some of these smaller characters that are older pop
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 1: up every now and now and again. You know, Rocky
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 1: and Bullwinkle is an example.
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 2: That's true.
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 1: Like, none of them, Yogi Bear, none of them come
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 1: up super frequently, but they occasionally poke up out of
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 1: the dirt. I'm still waiting for a Snorks movie anyhow.
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 3: Firstly, I'm itching for the gritty reboot of Gummy Bears.
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 2: Honestly, that's I would be.
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: Look, they're bouncing here and there and everywhere.
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 2: I adventure that's beyond.
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 3: We used to singing the theme song to Gummy Bears
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 3: behind the scenes at the Georgia Renaissance Festival.
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 2: At the end of the day.
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 1: Yes, Alicia Keys did a really great cover of it
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 1: of the theme song. Yeah, I enjoy Gummy Bears I
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 1: would watch more Gummy Bears.
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 3: Also enjoy Gummy Bears, both the show and the actual treat. Well,
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 3: I don't eat the treat anymore because it's got gelatin
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 3: in it, but I used to.
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: Ducktails has gotten a good resource. I think Gummy Bears
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 1: could too.
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 3: Well, and you know what, it may turn out that,
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 3: who knows, maybe this woody Woodpecker goes to Camp movie
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 3: actually ends up being really entertaining, has a lot of heart,
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 3: and ends up being you know, earning a place for
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 3: some people's like favorite films, which is totally cool if
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 3: it does. But it's just one of those things where
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 3: when it popped up, I started asking the question why
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 3: does this exist? And my mind just goes to like
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 3: really cynical answers.
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree, and I think just again. Part of
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 1: it is that it's not the character as originally written,
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 1: is not a very deep character.
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 3: It's more of a get the entire characters essentially a
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 3: mischief maker, which is very similar to other characters like
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 3: you know, bugs Bunny is a schift maker too, although
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 3: Bugs Bunny is a mischift maker mixed with a heavy
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 3: dose of Groucho Marx. That kind of thing, but Woody
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 3: Woodpecker didn't really seem to have that second layer.
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 2: It was just like, Hey, where's a really orderly.
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 3: Situation that I could totally mess up?
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah? Who you guys, We are almost to the end.
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we've got four more.
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Next something that I actually might be the thing
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 1: I've been most excited from from this ip for a while.
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 1: We got a trailer for Jurassic World Chaos Theory.
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 3: Easy. It's a sequel to Camp Cretaceous, which I didn't
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 3: even know was the thing, Like, how did I not
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 3: know about Jurassic World Camp Cretaceous.
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 1: I think we talked about it early on when they
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 1: were first like talking about it, and then yeah, it
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 1: also fell off of my radar.
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 3: So that's an It's an animated series, and it introduces
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 3: a group of young kid not young kids, but kids
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 3: like teenage kids who in Camp Cretaceous end up having
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 3: to uh survive together for like almost a year while
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 3: they're in within the world of Jurassic World. Uh. And
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 3: the more details about that I can't give you because
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 3: I didn't watch it. So Chaos Theory is a sequel,
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 3: and just as much time has passed in between Camp Cretaceous,
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 3: and Chaos Theory as passed between the release of Camp
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 3: Cretaceous and Chaos Theory. So all the characters are now
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 3: like five years older, but it's it's coming back together
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 3: with them, and the cartoon looks pretty intense.
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 1: It does, and I love I love that choice of
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 1: of making it real world time for the viewers. I so,
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 1: I think what happened was that Camp Cretaceous came out
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 1: right around the time that the panic hit, and so
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 1: you know, five years ago.
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 3: So wow, No, four years ago is when the good
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 3: and the pandemic hit years ago, because it's twenty twenty
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 3: four and it happened in twenty twenty and twenty nineteen.
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 3: I think it's COVID nineteen because it was discovered in
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 3: twenty nineteen, but we didn't know about it until twenty twenty.
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 1: Fair enough. Anyhow, I think it looks good. I love
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 1: the idea. I like I love the Camp Cretaceous idea
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 1: of these kids had to live for a year on
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 1: the park because that gives it like more depth and
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 1: more interesting things than than just a Jurassic Park. Oh,
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 1: we have to run from the dinosaurs. I almost aid
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 1: Dragons movie. You know, it makes it feel very land
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 1: of the Lost where you you have to figure out
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 1: how to survive and have a good life, and you
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 1: even find you know, allies or whatever.
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe even young love, maybe even your love.
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 1: So I I now I have to go back and
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 1: watch and then I also have to watch Chaos there.
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 1: I shared it with my sister and she's also interested,
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 1: so maybe we'll watch it again.
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 3: When I saw the trailer, I wasn't aware of camp.
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 3: I mean, I'm sure we did talk about it, but
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 3: you know me, I don't remember anything. So I watched
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 3: the trailer and I was like, this feels like they've
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 3: established all these characters. And I'm pretty sure these characters
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 3: aren't from the live action films. I don't think this
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 3: is an animated extension of that, So where the heck
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 3: did they come from? And that's when I looked into
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 3: it and found out or maybe rediscovered Cretaceous, depending on
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 3: whether we talked about it or not, And that's why
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 3: I was like, oh, Okay, I get it. So this
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 3: is like building on established characters who have already been
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 3: introduced in a previous production. So that was somewhat relieving
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 3: because otherwise I was like, Wow, they're going in hard
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 3: with this, and I have no idea who any of
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 3: these people are. Kind of like, if I were to
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 3: jump into a brand new season of Doctor Who have
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 3: not seen anything in the last like eight years of
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 3: Doctor Who, I probably feel a little out of out
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 3: of touch.
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 1: You could, you might, you could probably jump into this season.
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna guess and be fine. We got another trailer,
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 1: trailer number two for the new Doctor Who. It looks good,
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 1: it looks fun. It's not quite as catchy as the
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 1: first trailer because the first trailer had some great like
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 1: music to it and this one's more generic, but also
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 1: gives you a little bit more of the plot and
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 1: also turned me off slightly because apparently one of the
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 1: aliens they encounter are talking babies, and I have never
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 1: ever thought that effect worked well.
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 3: I wish they all I wish they all look like
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 3: the dancing baby from Ali McBeal. Like that was just it,
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 3: Like that's like like like they have lines, but their
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 3: mouths don't move, like it's just them doing that little
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 3: little little wiggle dance. I'm doing it for Aeriel right now,
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 3: y'all can't see that I'm doing.
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 1: It, which you need to do because I've never watched
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 1: Allie McBeal, I know it.
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 3: It's I mean, you would recognize the animation if you
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 3: saw it, because Ali McBeal didn't invent it. They pulled
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 3: it and it was used like everywhere in the nineties.
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 3: But anyway, yeah, it's that's that's my useless contribution to
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 3: this doctor whose story.
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 1: It looks good. I've also decided that the doctor says
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 1: he's going to keep Ruby safe in both of the trailers.
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 1: He says that he promises it, and we know because
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 1: news came out that that actress is not a long
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 1: standing companion. Uh So my theory what I'm going to guess,
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 1: and again this is not a spoiler, because I don't
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 1: know if it's true. I haven't even read it, is
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 1: that he actually goes, no, this is too dangerous. I'm
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 1: going to drop you off at home, so sorry, bye bye,
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 1: and leaves her in and somebody else he cares less about.
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 2: I mean as possible.
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 3: Like, my fear is that they're gonna do what countless
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 3: other stories have done, which is, let's create a sympathetic
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 3: female character and then put her into danger and or
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 3: kill her simply for the purposes of giving our male
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 3: protagonist a reason to have an arc like that's my fear,
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 3: but I hope that they don't fall into that very
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 3: common trap.
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm not fearful of that. Yes, the companions
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 1: do get into trouble, but just as often they solve
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 1: the problems for the doctor. Or are the people who
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 1: are who are saying, no, we need to do this
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 1: when he's saying maybe they when the doctor is saying
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 1: I shouldn't say he because the doctor has had many iterations.
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 1: When the doctor is saying no, maybe we should leave.
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 2: I agree.
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 3: I just I remember I watched a video once of
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 3: like it was like an extensive video of what happened
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 3: to all the Doctor's companions. The video is like an
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 3: hour and a half long because there have been so
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 3: many and and there's a significant number of them that
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 3: end up in a much worse place than they started
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 3: when they when they started hanging out with the doctor,
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 3: Like a lot of whom are living impaired let's say.
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 1: Yes, yes, and some of them are not women. The
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 1: doctor had many companions, yes, but the doctor has also,
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 1: up until Jody Whittaker, been an imperfect character who maybe
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 1: doesn't who loves humanity, but it's still kind of disconnected
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 1: from it in many ways in my mind. And so
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 1: you know, I, yeah, I.
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 3: Don't know, well, I don't know where it's going on,
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 3: but yeah, it's I don't mean it as a full
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 3: criticism of the series as a whole, just that I
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 3: remain unconvinced as to this particular companion's safety by the
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 3: end of her specific run with the Doctor. Hopefully she
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 3: does end up being safe. And this isn't just a
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 3: way of, Hey, we got to make this character who
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 3: is really kind of sassy and fun loving and groovy sad.
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 2: How do we do that?
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 3: Hey, I know, Let's give him a sympathetic companion and
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 3: then kill her like that's what I have. It feels
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 3: unfair to say, because I also know that the people
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 3: who are creating the show are more than aware of
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 3: that trope, and it's hard to believe that they would
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 3: indulge in it while also being aware of it. So
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 3: I'm hopeful that maybe they exceed my expectations.
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 1: Also, this iteration of the doctor does have a sadness
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 1: under there. They all do, even all of the happy
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 1: doctors have had like an underlying sadness. I used to
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 1: say that I might have said it on the show
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 1: for any very long time listeners that David Tenant and
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 1: Matt Smith were like, oh no, it was David Tenant
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 1: and Christopher Eckleston were like two sides of the same coin.
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 1: Whereas like Christopher Eccleston's doctor was usually sad with moments
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 1: of happiness and David Tennant's doctor was usually happy with
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 1: moments of sad, but they were all working off of
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 1: the same memories and experiences.
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 3: That's true, like every incarnation of the Doctor is at
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 3: its core, the same character, so there should be certain
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 3: consistencies throughout, even though like the manifestation may be very different.
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 3: I also just think of it's funny because when I
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 3: think of David Tennant, this didn't I didn't mean for
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 3: this to become a doctor who cast. But when I
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 3: think of David Tennant's Doctor, I think of a character
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 3: who has a really deep seated rage powering him that
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 3: is under the surface most of the time, so you
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 3: don't see it from episode to episode, but you realize
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 3: it's always there as the series goes on, and he
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 3: lets it kind of escape where he will actually deliver
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 3: really terrifying threats to the villains on occasion, which is
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 3: not something you would typically see from the doctor, And
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 3: so some people actually say that, like David Tennant is
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 3: a lot of people's favorite doctor. Ariel's favorite is Christopher
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 3: Eckleson because she had a crush on him, but also
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 3: because he's a genuinely amazing actor and he did a
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 3: great job. But a lot of people's favorite doctor is Tenant,
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 3: and I've heard some people reference him as the angry doctor,
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 3: which is kind of interesting.
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, all of the really good doctors kind of
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 1: do that. Trying to think of the other one that I.
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 3: Really liked, it was the old Peter Capaldi.
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 1: Yes, I also really liked him, Uh, not all of
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 1: his It was his last arc. His last season series
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 1: was the best, I think, but I thought he was
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 1: a really good doctor, even when the stories might have
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 1: failed or his companion. I didn't care for his companions
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 1: as much of some of the time Bill was great.
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 1: I look forward to this. I was gonna say more,
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 1: and I don't remember what I was going to say.
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 2: At all. I'm sorry.
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 1: Oh, I recommend I recommend watching the like the three
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 1: part mini series they did with David Tennant and Donna Noble,
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 1: like last year and then the Christmas episode that came
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 1: after that with the new players, and see if you
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 1: like it, because it's a very different feel and it
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 1: does well referencing old stuff while making you understand it
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 1: as a new viewer. But it has a very different
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 1: feel and I really liked where they went with cool.
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 1: So if you were going to jump back into Doctor Who,
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 1: I'd say give that a try to see if you
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 1: like this new this new vibe.
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 2: Would you would you recommend?
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 3: Also, because I never saw any of the Peter Capaldy episodes,
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 3: but I really like him as an actor. Would you
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 3: say that if I were to try and watch that,
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 3: I should just jump straight to that his final series
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 3: as the Doctor.
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 1: Maybe I would have to go back and look at
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 1: the episodes. I've always said that Supernatural and Doctor Who
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 1: are kind of unless you want to follow the through
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 1: arc of the madness of the Doctor and like watching
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 1: David Tennant get progressively angry or creepier. Yeah, that it's
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 1: one of those shows where you need someone to pull
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 1: out the good episodes for you and just watch those
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 1: unless there are like through lines and they bring up
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 1: old monsters from like the very original series too. But
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 1: unless you super care about that, just have someone cherry
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 1: peck episodes for Okay, but yeah, I really liked I
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 1: just really liked Peter Capaldi's take on The Doctor a lot.
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 1: So I will let you know where you should start
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 1: if you want to get cool.
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 3: That's I'm glad that we were able to have this
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 3: conversation that everyone else can listen to.
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, if I mean, I assume most of our fans
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 1: who are are our friends, who are fans of Doctor,
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 1: who who listen to this show have watched this year,
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 1: I think. But if you're also like I don't know
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 1: where to start in Peter Capaldi.
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 2: That would be a really good episode.
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 3: Honestly, Ariel is that I would love to do an
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 3: episode with you where you just give me kind of
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 3: your list of episodes Cherry picked episodes for the various Doctors,
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 3: saying like, if you want to know what I think
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 3: of as sort of the most compelling or best episodes,
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 3: these are the ones I would suggest you check out
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 3: if you were curious but you didn't, but you were
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 3: overwhelmed with just the vast number of episodes that are
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 3: out there. I think that would be really cool. I
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 3: would love to hear that.
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 1: I do think it'll vary from person to person because,
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 1: like I controversial opinion. I think the Cybermen are the
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 1: scariest monsters and doctor who and many people think that
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 1: it's the Weeping Angels or I don't know many people
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 1: who think the Dollics are the scariest.
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 3: That's because that's because until the modern era, a staircase
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 3: could defeat the Daleks. But in the modern era they
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 3: do show that they have thrusters that can allow them
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 3: to go upstairs. Because that what that actually what I
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 3: saw that episode where I was like, Okay, that's clever
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 3: where you're actually addressing the joke that a staircase could
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 3: beat the dolls.
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there was a really good episode of Jodie Whittaker's
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 1: Doctor that dealt with the Dollks that I quite liked.
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 1: It was kind of Groundhog's Day ish. Oh yeah, so that, Yeah,
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 1: that would be that would be a fun thing. I
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 1: don't know how many people would like to listen to that,
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 1: but I'm happy to know.
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 2: No.
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 3: I think that, Like I said, I think that'd be
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 3: really cool. It be kind of like I'm trying to
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 3: think of any show where I could do the same
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 3: thing where I could say, like, here are the episodes
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 3: I think, like maybe Buffy the Vampire Slayer. But I
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 3: have a feeling that most of the episodes I would
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 3: cite are the ones that anyone who's familiar with the
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 3: show would say, like Hush is I think one of
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 3: the best episodes Buffy ever did once More with Feeling,
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 3: which is in a way the opposite of Hush, because
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 3: in Hush, for most of the episode no one is
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 3: able to talk, and then once More with Feeling it's
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 3: their musical episode. But like, I have a feeling that
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 3: a lot of my suggestions would be pretty much what
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 3: any listical online would say. But yeah, I think that
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 3: would be really cool something that I don't know if
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 3: it'll be cool or not, because honestly, I've been so
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 3: burnt out on the stir Wars is the animated Tales
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 3: of the Empire that's coming up. We got a trailer
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 3: for it. Tails the Empire, I think, tells two different stories,
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 3: and we saw a little bit in this. In this
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 3: I thought the animation looked good. I thought that it
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 3: had an interesting dark tone. But I am burnt out
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 3: on Star Wars, so it's also hard for me to
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 3: get excited about this, especially since once again we've got
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 3: like Darth Vader showing up. I mean, you don't see
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 3: him in full, but there's no mistaking who it is.
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 2: It's Darth Vader.
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 3: And I'm like, are there any Star Wars stories that
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 3: don't tie into this specific era and involve the Skywalker family,
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 3: because I'm so tired.
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 1: I think there are some books in some comics.
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 3: Well, there is an upcoming there is an upcoming series
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 3: that takes place one hundred years before a Phantom Menace,
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 3: but I mean that's still not quite enough time.
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 1: In my book, the e Walk Adventure, they just.
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 3: Don't address anything that's.
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 2: Not the same.
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I watched a trailer. Honestly, it was a little
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 1: slow for me for what it was. It very quickly
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 1: lost my attention the first time I tried to watch
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 1: through it. I think some of the characters showed up,
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 1: and some of the locations showed up in Mandalorian their
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 1: season two or three.
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 3: Well, and General Grievous is in there, and of course
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 3: he's he's killed.
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 2: Off, wasn't he.
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 3: I think it was in the second of the prequels
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 3: where Obi Wan faces off against him and kills him.
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 3: Essentially so, but if General Green is thrasking there Thron,
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 3: Admiral Thron, he's in there too, Yeah, which is it? Yeah,
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 3: because then you're like, Okay, there are characters here who
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 3: in my familiarity with the characters. You've got Grievous, who's
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 3: from the prequel era, so that's when Darth Vader's just Anakin.
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 3: He's not Darth Vader yet. You definitely have Darth Vader.
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 3: He does show up in the trailer. You have Thran,
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 3: who I'm familiar with him after the fall of the Empire,
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 3: because the original Thron trilogy took place after Return of
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 3: the Jedi, where Thrawn is kind of bringing the remnants
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 3: of the Empire back under control to have it sort
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 3: of rise again. But that doesn't mean that Thron's only
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 3: active before the events of Return of the Jedi. But yeah,
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 3: there's a lot of time that is spanned in this trailer.
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 3: But again, it's two different stories, so that might be
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 3: part of it.
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I've been meaning to go and watch the cartoons
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 1: and give them a shot. I've seen like bits and pieces,
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 1: but i haven't watched them fully through. So maybe this
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 1: will be a good compendium to that. Lastly, I don't
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 1: mean to rush us off a topic, but we are running.
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 3: At this point.
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Olivia Wilde and Margot Robi are producing an adaptation
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 1: of a comic book done by the Deadpool people called
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 1: Evangeliza Avangeline. Evangeline sorry about an angel who wears very
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 1: little clothing who fights.
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 3: A female angel who wears very little clothing because that's
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 3: the way things were done in the comic books back
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 3: in those days in the nineties. I want to say
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 3: that it was co created by a model who modeled
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 3: for Vampirella as well.
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 2: So yeah, so it's.
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 3: Evangeline is a sexy, schmexy looking character who does kick
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 3: butt type stuff and is.
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 2: Kind of an.
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 3: Angel who was cast out who is now kind of
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 3: an avenging spirit for good more or less. That's kind
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 3: of the the high level, you know, look at this character.
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 2: So I think that's interesting.
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 3: Like the fact that this character's coming out when we're
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 3: getting the new Deadpool movie. I bet that's part of it,
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 3: Like it's looking into this guy's work and saying, what
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 3: else is out there that we could potentially use and elevate.
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 3: I don't know how well it'll do, because the the
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 3: stuff in comic books that plays with simmy to total
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 3: religious themes has a mixed success rate when it comes
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 3: to adaptations, right, Like, Lucifer did pretty well as a
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 3: TV series, But what was the Keanu Reeves, John Constantine, Constantine?
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 3: Like I enjoyed Constantine the movie. I thought it was
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 3: actually really good, But I enjoyed the TV show.
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 2: Oh I don't.
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 3: I don't think I ever saw the television show. But
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 3: I loved the film. But it was short, short lived, gotcha. Yeah,
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 3: So in both cases, like it wasn't something that really
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 3: stood out or lasted the test of time. I mean,
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 3: people who love them still love them, obviously, but it's
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 3: not like it's not like the film Constantine launched a
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 3: franchise or anything like that. Despite the fact that there's
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 3: some incredible performances in that movie. I mean, you've got
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 3: to watch that film if you haven't seen it. I'm
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 3: not saying it's the best thing that was ever made,
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 3: but considering what it was, I was really impressed. So
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 3: my hope is that if this does come out to
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 3: be a thing of Ageline, that it ends up being.
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 2: Kind of an exception as opposed.
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 3: To the rule where the sort of religious related stuff
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 3: from comics just hasn't played as well. Even Lucifer, which
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 3: ran for several seasons, I think was more of a
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 3: cult show than anything else. Yeah, but you know, we
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 3: have some other stuff like Sandman has some religious relationships
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 3: in it as well and has done pretty well.
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 1: So So the TV show was a part of like
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 1: the Airoverse, like that gotcha WB Airoverse, But it was
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 1: I enjoyed it, and in fact, a character ended up
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 1: after it got canceled going on to Legends of Tomorrow
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 1: for a few episodes.
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 3: I want to say there was even a Lucifer crossover
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 3: with those the Aero Verse characters too, Like I remember
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 3: seeing clips on YouTube. That was my experience because I
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 3: never got into those shows.
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 2: But I was like, wait a minute.
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 3: I recognize some of these people, and I recognize some
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 3: of the characters they're playing, but I'm pretty sure they're
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 3: from different shows.
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I loved the crossover stuff. Anything that WB
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 1: did crossover wise, I quite enjoyed.
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it was funny because like the WB was, I
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 3: think handling the DC crossover stuff way better than the
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 3: films did.
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 1: Oh I agree, And I fell off of most of
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 1: the shows before the end because I thought they were
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 1: stronger in the beginning, but I still think that they
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 1: handled all that stuff better. I wonder with Evangeline of Evengeline.
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 2: Who I know, it's hard to say.
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah if it's mainly when I'm being a lazy speaker,
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 1: which is something that film is tiny little bunny trail.
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 1: I when I started acting in film, I was told
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 1: that I over enunciated. It's a stage voice acting thing
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 1: that you do, and so when I do film work,
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 1: I don't. I'm conscious less. So now there's more of
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 1: a switch I can turn that I don't enunciate as well,
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 1: because it can seem it can seem unnatural acting even
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 1: if you're yeah, even if you are like genuinely feeling
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 1: your feelings and not putting on an act, it still
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 1: comes across that way. But it has affected the way that,
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 1: like when I do speech to text on my phone,
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 1: my phone no longer understands me very well, So Jonathan
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 1: smack me if I'm ever speaking super unclearly. But I
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 1: wonder if coming off of Barbie If and Olivia Wilde,
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 1: if Margo Ruby and Olivia wild are going to keep
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 1: a vengelin in like the male Gaze Arena or if
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 1: they're going to update the care I hope.
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 3: They update, unless they use it to make commentary, in
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 3: which case I can understand that. But like, I feel like,
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 3: if you look at comic book covers, particularly from the nineties,
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 3: but it's still a thing now. It was so often
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 3: that any female character was treated like a cheesecake model,
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 3: right Like, it's always in these weird positions that most
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 3: humans can't actually do, and really like emphasizing things like
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 3: the butt or the chest region like that kind of stuff.
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 3: And obviously there's been countless commentaries and jokes made about it,
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 3: but it continued, it persisted to be a.
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 2: Thing, and.
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 3: There's a very delicate way to handle that where it
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 3: becomes something where it's a woman's way of expressing herself
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 3: and it's like fully through her own agency, and she's
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 3: doing it for her own reasons and it has nothing
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 3: to do with the male gaze. But it's hard to
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 3: do that in a way that's genuine and isn't actually
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 3: a guy behind the scenes saying I kind of want
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 3: to see what she looks like if she wears this
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 3: tank top, right Like, it's it's a really tricky thing,
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 3: and I don't want to get fully into it, and Ariel,
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 3: I know you feel very much the same way, like
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 3: there is there is a way to do this where
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 3: it's empowering. It really is empowering and it's not it's
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 3: not demeaning or ejectification. It is empowering. But that is
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  Speaker 3: a hard thing to do and it almost never works
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  Speaker 3: if it's a dude who's in charge of doing it.
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  Speaker 3: So the fact that it's two women who are producing,
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  Speaker 3: maybe they could do a better job of that. Obviously
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  Speaker 3: as producers, they're not they're not necessarily the ones calling
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  Speaker 3: the shots on a day to day basis though, So
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  Speaker 3: I don't know, but it's a we can have a
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  Speaker 3: full episode just dedicated to the male gaze and how.
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  Speaker 1: Complicated that is we could? Yeah, and it goes it
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  Speaker 1: goes into, you know, the trope of being of women
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  Speaker 1: being told that they need to dress a certain way
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  Speaker 1: to not attract a male gaze or to tempt people,
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  Speaker 1: or and into just stereotypes. Yeah, it's a whole conversation.
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  Speaker 1: Margot Robi co produced on Barbie though, right, so, and
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  Speaker 1: that turned out pretty well, but it was very tongue
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  Speaker 1: in cheek about like self referential. I don't know the
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  Speaker 1: right word. It was very blatant and it's making Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's it's doable.
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  Speaker 3: It's just like it's it's really it depends on who
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  Speaker 3: else is on the is on the creative team. We
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  Speaker 3: should also say that as we're recording this, this is
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  Speaker 3: a project that doesn't have a home yet. It's not
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  Speaker 3: like there's a studio behind it, so we can't even
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  Speaker 3: say that this will definitively become a thing, but that
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  Speaker 3: the the initial things have started. But obviously, like there
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  Speaker 3: are tons of projects that get started in Hollywood that
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  Speaker 3: never go anywhere, it's possible this could be another one.
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  Speaker 3: But it is an interesting choice. Olivia Wild also interesting
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  Speaker 3: person in that her reputation is a little up and
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  Speaker 3: down as well, right, Like it's not it's not.
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  Speaker 2: Positive, so.
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  Speaker 3: Especially with the don't worry Darling stuff, I'm not going
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  Speaker 3: to go into that either, but.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's that's that's another topic for another day.
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  Speaker 1: As far as it is, this could be a two
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  Speaker 1: part episode.
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  Speaker 3: It's so long, it's gonna it's gonna take me probably
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  Speaker 3: about three hours to edit, so that's.
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  Speaker 2: Going to be a fun, fun time. But yeah, so yeah, if.
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  Speaker 3: Y'all out there if you're interested in us having these
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  Speaker 3: conversations less No, I mean some of y'all might be like,
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  Speaker 3: please know, I've had enough of these kind of talks.
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  Speaker 3: I don't want you to my absolute favorite podcasters of
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  Speaker 3: all time to go down that road. That's fair too,
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  Speaker 3: we want.
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  Speaker 2: To hear.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, we definitely do. Just like we heard some
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  Speaker 1: of you asking for mashups, which we do intend on
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  Speaker 1: bringing back, though this week. I thought it was gonna
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  Speaker 1: be a thirty minute episode and boy, howdie, So Jonathan,
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  Speaker 1: if they do want to tell us these things, how
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  Speaker 1: do they?
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  Speaker 2: How? How okay?
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  Speaker 3: So you're gonna have to go and get a cheesecake
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  Speaker 3: out of that? I'm sorry. I don't make the rules.
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  Speaker 3: I'm just reporting them. You're just gonna have to find
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  Speaker 3: something that's really flattering for you and put that on,
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  Speaker 3: and you're gonna have to go out and strut in public,
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  Speaker 3: and you're gonna think of it as empowering, even though
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  Speaker 3: other people might be looking at it from a totally
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  Speaker 3: different perspective.
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  Speaker 2: And at the end of the day, when you've gone.
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  Speaker 3: Through all of your experiences, is both good and bad,
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  Speaker 3: and you're weighing what this all means you're going to
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  Speaker 3: turn around and I'm gonna say, hey, if you mind
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  Speaker 3: if I take a picture and you say okay, but
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  Speaker 3: only if you answer my question, and I will begrudgingly
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  Speaker 3: answer whatever it was that you wanted to ask me.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and if you don't have the sewing chops to
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  Speaker 1: You can also email us. Our email is large Neurdrun
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  Speaker 1: after this episode airs on our website as soon as
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  Speaker 1: I figure out what kind of funky art I'm gonna
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  Speaker 1: make for it. And yeah, we do love hearing from you.
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  Speaker 1: Thanks to everybody who's been active on our discord lately.
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  Speaker 1: It's been a delight. Until next time. I am Ariel,
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  Speaker 1: I need to get a sandwich cast in, and.
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  Speaker 3: I am Jonathan Cheesecake Strickland. The Large Nerdron Collider was
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  Speaker 3: created by Ariel Caston and produced, edited, published, deleted, undeleted
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  Speaker 3: published again. Cursed At by Jonathan Strickland, music by Kevin
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