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EPSTEIN BABY? SEARCH FOR BODIES · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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Speaker 1: Stories with Nancy Grace Epstein. Baby Jeffrey Epstein has a baby.
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Speaker 1: This while a search for bodies is going on. A
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Speaker 1: search for human girl bodies is going on at Epstein's
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Speaker 1: Zoro Ranch. I'm Nancy Grace. This is Crime Stories. I
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Speaker 1: want to thank you for being with us.
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Speaker 2: Authorities launched a major criminal search of Jeffrey Epstein's former
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Speaker 2: Zoro Ranch in New Mexico. They began searching the seven
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Speaker 2: six hundred acre property due to a tip alleging that
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Speaker 2: two girls were buried in the hills outside the ranch
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Speaker 2: on Epstein's orders.
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Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein has a baby. Okay, I want to talk
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Speaker 1: about that, but frankly, a baby is not my business.
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Speaker 1: Dead bodies are straight out to Professor Forensicks, Jacksonville State University,
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Speaker 1: author Blood Beneath My Feet on Amazon, and star of
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Speaker 1: a hit podcast series, Body Bags with Joseph Scott Morgan,
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Speaker 1: a search at Zoro Ranch for at least two girls bodies. Now,
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Speaker 1: first of all, hold Joe Scott, Dave Matt Crime Stories
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Speaker 1: investigative reporter. I just need two words out of you.
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Speaker 1: Where is Zoro Ranch?
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Speaker 3: South of Santa Fe, New Mexico, thirty miles see.
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Speaker 1: I said two words, and then you just blew that.
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Speaker 1: You blew that up, New Mexico, New Mexico. Joe Scott, Morgan,
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Speaker 1: New Mexico. Here in the US. Let me see Joe Scott, Please,
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Speaker 1: Joe Scott. We're not talking about wrongdoing in the US
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Speaker 1: Virgin Islands, or in London, or in France or in
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Speaker 1: the stands. We hear a lot about from Lynn Shaw
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Speaker 1: where girls are in awarded to Lolita Island for Jeffrey
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Speaker 1: Epstein and all of his clients, but there is no
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Speaker 1: client list. Forget about that. That's bs. This is here
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Speaker 1: on US soil and we're just hearing about it. Tell
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Speaker 1: me what you know.
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Speaker 4: Oh, what I know is that they have had an
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Speaker 4: email that had come in one of these dumps, in
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Speaker 4: one of these tranches of data that has been released,
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Speaker 4: and of course a lot of it's redacted, but what
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Speaker 4: was stated is that there are at least two victims,
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Speaker 4: according to the source, that have gone out and they
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Speaker 4: have stated that they used to work there at the
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Speaker 4: Zoro Ranch. They claim that during some kind of wild
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Speaker 4: perverted sex act, that two not one, but two individuals
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Speaker 4: young women were choked to death, that they were essentially asphyxiated,
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Speaker 4: and then their remains were taking out onto this property,
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Speaker 4: which Nancy to say, it's vast is an understate taken
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Speaker 4: out and they were buried in the hills surrounding this area.
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Speaker 4: It's very non specific, but right now, according to what
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Speaker 4: we're hearing, there's a search going on of this property
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Speaker 4: looking for these remains. I have to think about it's
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Speaker 4: looking for a needle in a stack of needles. Right now.
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Speaker 1: After Epstein's death, our own FBI said they quote lacked
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Speaker 1: evidence to search the New Mexico Zoro Ranch. Now this
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Speaker 1: as they swarmed Epstein's Manhattan townhouse and his private island
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Speaker 1: in the Caribbean, but not New Mexico. Straight out to
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Speaker 1: Dave Matt Crime Stories investigative reporter, I'm going to go
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Speaker 1: back to Joe Scott Dave on the way the methods
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Speaker 1: you use in trying to find dead bodies that have
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Speaker 1: been there for a period of years, can't cadaver dogs
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Speaker 1: even find them. And I want you to bring me
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Speaker 1: up to date in a nutshell about the search of
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Speaker 1: Zoro Ranch. Right here us soil on a ranch owned
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Speaker 1: by Epstein. But even after his death, the FBI said
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Speaker 1: we don't have enough PC to search for dead bodies.
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Speaker 3: Really, Nancy, this is a When you talk about searching
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Speaker 3: Zoro Ranch, you're thirty miles outside of Santa Fe, New Mexico.
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Speaker 3: The ranch was owned by Jeffrey Epstein from nineteen ninety
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Speaker 3: three until after his death. The search is actually on
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Speaker 3: a part of the property that was leased from the
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Speaker 3: State of New Mexico. Jeffrey Epstein specifically leased this additional
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Speaker 3: property to graze cattle.
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Speaker 1: Wait a minute, Wait a minute. Jeffrey Epstein, known child
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Speaker 1: sex trafficker, multimillionaire, leased this land from the it belonged
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Speaker 1: to the state, and now we're searching for girls' bodies
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Speaker 1: there on yet, go ahead.
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Speaker 3: Zoro Ranch is large, but it also includes about fifteen
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Speaker 3: hundred acres of land that was leased to Jeffrey Epstein
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Speaker 3: by the State of New Mexico and is on divissity
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Speaker 3: property where these bodies are allegedly buried. Again, you mentioned
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Speaker 3: this a minute ago, but it bears repeating. Jeffrey Epstein's
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Speaker 3: properties in New York, Florida and all over the place
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Speaker 3: were all searched.
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Speaker 1: Not Zoro Ranch.
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Speaker 3: And it's at Zoro Ranch where there is a belief
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Speaker 3: that two bodies of two young women who were killed
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Speaker 3: during rough sex and buried on the property that actually
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Speaker 3: was leased from the state of New Mexico. They're now searching.
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Speaker 3: Investigators are finally searching Zoro Ranch.
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Speaker 5: Standing here at Zoro Ranch, a place represents such trauma
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Speaker 5: and nightmares for my and so many other survivors, is
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Speaker 5: harder than I ever imagined.
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Speaker 6: It is a crucial piece and getting to the bottom
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Speaker 6: of truth and accountability here in our state, to hold
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Speaker 6: those who are still able to be held accountable to
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Speaker 6: the law, as well as seeking justice and healing for
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Speaker 6: survivors here in our state.
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Speaker 1: That first speaker, you may not recognize him. That is
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Speaker 1: Danny Roberts, Virginia Giffray's brother there at Zora Ranch. You
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Speaker 1: know what I want to hear. And the second person
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Speaker 1: is representative Melanie Stansbury. I want to hear that again.
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Speaker 1: I want to hear what Jeffray's brother says. Let's hear it.
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Speaker 5: Standing here at Zora Ranch, a place represents such trauma
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Speaker 5: and nightmares for my sister and so many other survivors,
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Speaker 5: is harder than I ever imagined.
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Speaker 6: It is a crucial piece and getting to the bottom
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Speaker 6: of truth and accountability here in our state, to hold
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Speaker 6: those who are still able to be held accountable to
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Speaker 6: the law, as well as seeking justice and healing for
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Speaker 6: survivors here in our state.
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Speaker 1: Tell it, Stansbury, tell it from our friends at ABC. Now.
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Speaker 1: Remember Virginia Geoffrey was one of Epstein's victims, and she's
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Speaker 1: the one that busted the Andrew formerly known as Prince
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Speaker 1: for having child sex with her. She was a teenage girl.
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Speaker 1: There he is, he sore up and down. This photo
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Speaker 1: is fake. But then he paid a multimillion dollar settlement
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Speaker 1: to Jeffrey, who then turned up dead reportedly by suicide. Okay,
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Speaker 1: straight out to Dr Bethany Marshall joining us. Renown psychoanalyst,
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Speaker 1: author of deal Breaker. You can see her now on
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Speaker 1: Peacock and you can find her at doctor Bethany Marshall
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Speaker 1: dot com. Doctor Bethany, I have investigated and prosecuted the
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Speaker 1: cases of so many victims, including adult rape victims that
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Speaker 1: were raped and abuse when they were children, little girls. Bethany,
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Speaker 1: you can explain it better than me, asked Kelyn Shaw.
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Speaker 1: But they're never the same, doctor Bethany. And what triggered
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Speaker 1: this in my mind, just them was hearing Geffray's brother
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Speaker 1: Danny Roberts. They're at Zoro Ranch where they're looking for girls'
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Speaker 1: bodies right now. How long have they been there? If
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Speaker 1: they are there, how long have they been buried? What
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Speaker 1: did this nobody go looking for them? Did they just
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Speaker 1: fall through the cracks? I hate that phrase. There's no
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Speaker 1: such thing as falling through the cracks. Somebody failed, either
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Speaker 1: their parents, the system. Someone failed. It just didn't happen.
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Speaker 1: Nothing fell through cracks. But these women that I have
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Speaker 1: worked with literally thousands of women over the years, they're
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Speaker 1: never the same. They go on. If you see them
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Speaker 1: at work or the grocery door, sitting in the pew
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Speaker 1: next to you at Synagogua church, they seem perfectly fine.
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Speaker 1: They're not. It's like, as I've always said, breaking your
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Speaker 1: arm and never getting it set. You will learn how
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Speaker 1: to flip a pancake, but it's never the same. You're
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Speaker 1: never the same after your heart is cracked wide open.
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Speaker 1: I can say that much. You can explain, you know, Nancy.
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Speaker 7: In order to understand the trauma, we have to get
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Speaker 7: away from the words rape and rough sex and use
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Speaker 7: the appropriate terminology, which is torture. Okay, if these girls died,
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Speaker 7: there were torture. There was torture, and if there are
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Speaker 7: two girls, there are more, all right. So if we
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Speaker 7: think of the perversions which all cluster together, and Jeffrey
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Speaker 7: had all of them, we think of exhibitionism. That's why
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Speaker 7: he was on that massage table, so he could display
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Speaker 7: himself voyeurism. Remember he was reported by a neighbor in
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Speaker 7: Florida for being a peeping tom. Okay, but pedophilia, but
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Speaker 7: sadism is one of the perf So that's one of
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Speaker 7: the things that hasn't been adequately talked about, is that
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Speaker 7: he was probably likely torturing those girls and that's why
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Speaker 7: they died. No, maybe he wasn't sticking nails into them
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Speaker 7: or hanging them upside down like some perpose we talk about.
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Speaker 7: But when you choke somebody until they die, when you
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Speaker 7: are strangulating them, you are looking for fear and terror
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Speaker 7: in those eyes. And in terms of the trauma of
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Speaker 7: the girls who got away, I think the worst part
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Speaker 7: would be the flashbacks, meaning that anybody who will that
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Speaker 7: ever flirt with one of these girls, love them, date them,
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Speaker 7: ask them out to spend time together, they will feel
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Speaker 7: like they're being violated all over again. The mind cannot
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Speaker 7: distinguish between past and present when a person is traumatized,
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Speaker 7: so the world begins to feel unsafe and dangerous, and
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Speaker 7: even having a close, warm, intimate relationship will be equated
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Speaker 7: with being tortured and raped. That's what these women are
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Speaker 7: destined for the to their lives.
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Speaker 1: Photos that were obtained from the latest data dump of
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Speaker 1: Epstein files, trust me, we don't have them all yet,
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Speaker 1: and faces blacked out in many of them. Those are children.
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Speaker 1: And there is one shot of little girls wearing identical
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Speaker 1: outfits kind of like m It looked like white like
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Speaker 1: schoolgirl outfits. Those are little girls, Those are girls. Those
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Speaker 1: are miners. And you know who is really making me
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Speaker 1: sick right now? Lynshaw is gille Maxwell because every photo
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Speaker 1: of her with Epstein, she's got this self satisfied, smug
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Speaker 1: smirk on her face. And I just want to slap
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Speaker 1: it right off because I can't get Epstein, Satan has him.
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Speaker 1: But I could get Julene Maxwell. I can get her
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Speaker 1: because she stood by and watched this whole thing on.
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Speaker 1: How dare she smile on a private plane when there
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Speaker 1: can be bodies buried at Zoro Ranch? What is wrong
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Speaker 1: with her? Guys. Lynn Shaw, founder director Lynn's Warriors, completely
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Speaker 1: dedicated to ending human trafficking and sex exploitation of girls
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Speaker 1: and women of people. What do you think, Lynn about
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Speaker 1: the lateies? Number one? I'm going to circle back to
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Speaker 1: Epstein has a Baby that said looking for bodies on
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Speaker 1: Zoro Ranch.
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Speaker 8: Do you hear, Nancy what we're talking about. We're looking
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Speaker 8: for bodies of potential miners. I want to share with you.
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Speaker 8: We the Warriors have always spoken with victims of Epstein Maxwell.
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Speaker 8: I say their names together because they are both equally
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Speaker 8: complicit in our book, and they have always reported to
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Speaker 8: us the real, the real crimes were happening at Zoro Ranch,
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Speaker 8: and nobody was really ever talking about it. It was
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Speaker 8: the Manhattan Townhouse, it was the Island once in a while,
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Speaker 8: Paris Zoro Ranch. They reported to me several years ago.
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Speaker 8: This is where they talked about impregnating minors. This is
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Speaker 8: where they talked about seeding the race to create this
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Speaker 8: DNA elitist kind of you know, in their own image.
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Speaker 1: With all these tech people.
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Speaker 8: They also filled me in tech people where he was
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Speaker 8: very much Jeffrey and Gala. They were interested in technology.
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Speaker 8: Go back and look at the history of the Maxwell family.
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Speaker 8: There's a lot of technology in their background. This is
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Speaker 8: what they were interested in. This is a bigger story then.
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Speaker 8: I know, this is hard to understand.
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Speaker 1: A little bit.
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Speaker 8: Sex trafficking in a Manhattan townhouse and also reported girls
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Speaker 8: report it now women, They would say to me Lynn,
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Speaker 8: there was nowhere to run at Zoro Ranch. It was
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Speaker 8: just acres and acres of nothing. We couldn't get away.
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Speaker 8: We had to comply. We're talking about two dead bodies,
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Speaker 8: I venture to say, in my opinion, there's a lot more.
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Speaker 8: We're talking about little girls, you know, teens with all
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Speaker 8: of this horrible criminality against their little bodies and things
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Speaker 8: like that. And you know what I don't understand. Jeffrey
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Speaker 8: was arrested in two thousand and six. We're still talking
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Speaker 8: about this, and I'm afraid the public is becoming habituated
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Speaker 8: to the Epstein Maxwell story and we will never get
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Speaker 8: the truth. This is about all victims of Jeffrey Epstein
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Speaker 8: and all victims and survivors of sexual exploitation. And our
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Speaker 8: government has failed, you know, our law enforcement has failed
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Speaker 8: here and the FBI AT's top of the list. Why
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Speaker 8: is Golane the only one ever arrested right now, sitting
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Speaker 8: in some kind of country club, not showering, not eating,
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Speaker 8: whatever she's doing. What is going on here? We demand answers.
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Speaker 1: This is ridiculous.
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Speaker 8: Now we're talking about this two thousand and six was
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Speaker 8: Jeffrey's first arrest. Twenty years later. Who's complicit? Why aren't
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Speaker 8: more in jail? Let's think about those victims, as doctor
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Speaker 8: Bethany pointed out, the lifelong trauma they suffer, the lives ruin,
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Speaker 8: the family's ruined. We have a lot of work to do,
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Speaker 8: and the government better start answering to us.
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Speaker 5: The people.
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Speaker 8: We the people we pay taxes.
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Speaker 1: They're not doing their jobs. The employee claims to have
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Speaker 1: taken seven videos of minors being sexually tortured from the
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Speaker 1: home as quote insurance Dave Matt. What does that mean?
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Speaker 3: Well, what is shocking about this, Nancy? Is this former
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Speaker 3: employee volunteering to turn over these copies of the thumb
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Speaker 3: drives of what we're led to believe are acts of
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Speaker 3: sexual note of rate against children at Zoro Ranch. But
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Speaker 3: the former employee wants a bitcoin. Now, at the time
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Speaker 3: the individual was trying to sell copies of the videos,
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Speaker 3: asking for one bitcoin, it was only worth about eight
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Speaker 3: thousand dollars, but that was the price this former employee
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Speaker 3: was demanding. Now, all of the emails were to the FBI,
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Speaker 3: which is how we found out of them in the
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Speaker 3: property dump that came out on Epstein. There will be more,
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Speaker 3: but that's the videos that were surreptitiously recorded at Zoro
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Speaker 3: Ranch involving underage girls.
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Speaker 1: This is like no ranch I've ever seen. Nothing. This
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Speaker 1: so called ranch is thirty thousand square feet. Look at
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Speaker 1: this video from our friends at Koat. Look at that
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Speaker 1: thirty thousand square feet sitting on nearly eight thousand acres.
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Speaker 1: The bodies could be anywhere. How long is it going
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Speaker 1: to take cadaver dogs to search all of this for
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Speaker 1: Pete's sake? That is unlike any ranch I've ever seen. Wow, Okay,
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Speaker 1: what more do we know? Now? This is crazy, Doctor
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Speaker 1: Bethany Marshall. Conspiracy theorists are saying that the entire war
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Speaker 1: in Iran is to take our attention off Epstein. They
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Speaker 1: are also saying the search for our friend Savannah Guthrie's mother,
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Speaker 1: Nancy Guthrie, is some type of crazy plot to take
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Speaker 1: our mind off Epstein. Nobody's forgotten Epstein we're coming through
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Speaker 1: every document that we get, and trust me, there's a
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Speaker 1: lot more that they're holding on to. But doctor Bethany,
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Speaker 1: what is wrong with people?
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Speaker 7: Well, you know in Congress hasn't forgotten either of the
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Speaker 7: Truth Commission is interviewing or questioning people every day, you know, Nancy,
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Speaker 7: Conspiracy theorists is really associated with narcissism, meaning that a
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Speaker 7: person plants an idea in their own head based upon
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Speaker 7: some thin truth or reality, and they overvalue what they know.
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Speaker 7: It's like a form of grandiosity, and they have a
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Speaker 7: low interest in the truth. So it's interesting because these
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Speaker 7: conspiracy theorists who are piling on in a way, it's
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Speaker 7: a little bit like this employee who wanted to sell
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Speaker 7: information about girls being tortured for eight thousand dollars. She's
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Speaker 7: trying to monetize the crime. So that tells me just
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Speaker 7: how much Jeffrey Epstein had people around him who were
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Speaker 7: also criminals, like an enterprise. I also think that this
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Speaker 7: ranch is interesting. It's like the island. It's so isolated
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Speaker 7: so that people cannot get a girl's children cannot get away,
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Speaker 7: and what we know about sex offenders, they organize their
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Speaker 7: entire lives around their perversions, an island Lalita Express, a
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Speaker 7: ranch way out in nowhere, a Manhattan townhouse where he
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Speaker 7: can entertain royalty and rich businessmen and moo other people
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Speaker 7: to come in and join in on his crime. So
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Speaker 7: back to the conspiracy, theori is there's a thin little
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Speaker 7: bit of truth, whereas there's a lot of distraction going
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Speaker 7: on because there are a lot of men and women
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Speaker 7: who are just sweating it out right now, hoping we
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Speaker 7: will forget. But you're right, Nancy, we haven't forgotten. You're
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Speaker 7: covering this night after night after night, so you are
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Speaker 7: doing right by the victims.
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Speaker 5: But right here, hidden in plain sight, Jeffrey Epstein and
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Speaker 5: Gawayne Maxwell built something very different, a house of horrors.
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Speaker 1: We're here to say.
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Speaker 5: That money and power do not buy you a different
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Speaker 5: set of laws.
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Speaker 6: And one of the significant and important pieces of this
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Speaker 6: case is to understand why justice was never pursued at
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Speaker 6: the state, local, or federal level. So this investigation is
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Speaker 6: a crucial piece of trying to understand what happened at
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Speaker 6: the ranch to look for potential crimes that may have
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Speaker 6: occurred on the ranch property, especially because after Jeffrey Epstein
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Speaker 6: was arrested in twenty nineteen and other properties were searched.
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Speaker 6: Zoro Ranch was never properly searched.
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Speaker 1: KRQE and from Representative Melanie Stansbury. Crime stories with Nancy
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Speaker 1: Grace Epstein file still to be released, major redactions and
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Speaker 1: I guarantee you, regardless of what Bondi has said, we've
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Speaker 1: had conflicting reports from her, there is a witness list.
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Speaker 1: There is not a witness list. Just got Morgan. There's
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Speaker 1: not a witness list on a silver platter on top
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Speaker 1: of a Christmas tree with a bow on it. That's
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Speaker 1: not how it works. You have to come through every document.
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Speaker 1: You have to follow leads like this employee that observed
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Speaker 1: the torture and possibly death that occurred at Zori Ranch,
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Speaker 1: right here on US soil, not far away in France,
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Speaker 1: in the stands, not in his Lowlia Island at US
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Speaker 1: Virgin Islands, but right here under our nose. Do you
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Speaker 1: know he had that property over thirty years? You want
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Speaker 1: to tell me nobody noticed anything. Multiple now grown women
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Speaker 1: say they were groomed there. Hey, Joe Scott, I want
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Speaker 1: you to listen to Juliet Bryant and Epstein victim.
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Speaker 9: As the planet took off, he started forcefully touching me
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Speaker 9: in between my legs, and I just freaked out and
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Speaker 9: I realized, I said, hedis Oh my god, my family,
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Speaker 9: I'm going to see me again.
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Speaker 2: These people might kill me.
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Speaker 6: New Mexico's Zoro Ranch is a place where multiple crimes
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Speaker 6: were reported, both to federal authorities as well as state
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Speaker 6: and local authorities. In fact, there are records dating back
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Speaker 6: to the mid nineteen nineties of abuse happening at the ranch,
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Speaker 6: including a report to the FBI in nineteen ninety six
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Speaker 6: by a survivor and multiple other reports over the years.
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Speaker 1: Back to the nineties. And nobody did a thing. Nobody
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Speaker 1: did a thing that was for our president Sky News
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Speaker 1: and Representative Melanie Stansbury. So here we are, Here we are,
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Speaker 1: Joe Scott Morgan. How do you go about it's like
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Speaker 1: an archaeological dig, finding bodies a little girls purported to
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Speaker 1: be buried somewhere in that nearly eight thousand acre ranch.
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Speaker 4: Well, the first thing you do is you don't call
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Speaker 4: them civilian volunteers. God bless them. I'm happy that they
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Speaker 4: like to help out. The government is aware of this, Nancy.
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Speaker 4: So the way you have to do this before you
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Speaker 4: ever put boots on the ground is that they're going
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Speaker 4: to have to do satellite imagery out here. This is
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Speaker 4: a vast area, and you have to go back back
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Speaker 4: in time as far as you can to do all
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Speaker 4: of the satellite runs in this area where these sites
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Speaker 4: have been captured, moving forward to see if there's any
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Speaker 4: kind of changes in that property, and they're going to
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Speaker 4: have to dig in. This is going to call on
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Speaker 4: I would imagine the resources of maybe the intelligence community
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Speaker 4: to be able to read these things from a geoscience standpoint.
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Speaker 4: Then you're going to have to do passovers with drones
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Speaker 4: that have spectral cameras on them so that they can
23:23
Speaker 4: look at even using infrared. And this is before you
23:26
Speaker 4: ever put people on the ground knocking down brush walking
23:30
Speaker 4: over areas that they don't know what they're looking for.
23:33
Speaker 4: And it's at that point in time that they go
23:35
Speaker 4: out and they find the best forensic ant and I
23:37
Speaker 4: pay attention, the best forensic anthropologists and geologists that they can,
23:42
Speaker 4: and they head these teams up and they break them
23:45
Speaker 4: down into teams I'm thinking probably crime scene investigators led
23:50
Speaker 4: by forensic anthropologists and a geologist, and they break this
23:54
Speaker 4: thing into huge grid squares and they work it, they
23:57
Speaker 4: work it, they work it. Listen if their bodies out
24:00
Speaker 4: and I believe that there's a high probability that there's
24:02
Speaker 4: more than two. I think that they've got all the
24:06
Speaker 4: time in the world to facilitate this. Don't go in
24:09
Speaker 4: there half cocked and screw evidence up. You work it
24:14
Speaker 4: very precisely, documenting everything along the way. This is going
24:19
Speaker 4: to be a very involved process, and I know people
24:22
Speaker 4: are inflamed over this. I know they're impassioned about it.
24:26
Speaker 4: But if you want to honor any victims that are
24:28
Speaker 4: out there, you have to take your time working the cases.
24:32
Speaker 4: Some of this evidence, if their bodies out there, is
24:35
Speaker 4: going to be very very fragile. Nancy, I don't believe
24:38
Speaker 4: that these are going to be shallow graves. You're talking
24:40
Speaker 4: about an individual that had a quote unquote cattle ranch.
24:44
Speaker 4: I don't think this idiot knew a whole stem from
24:46
Speaker 4: a longhorn, but he called it that he's grazing cattle.
24:51
Speaker 4: He probably had heavy equipment. I'm talking about like back hose, bulldozers.
24:56
Speaker 4: They dug a trench. They would put bodies in there
24:59
Speaker 4: and then cover up. That's the kind of thing you're
25:01
Speaker 4: looking for from a bird's eye view with imagery. You
25:04
Speaker 4: want to see if the landscape has changed any way?
25:07
Speaker 4: How far out did they go? This so called anonymous
25:11
Speaker 4: source that the FBI has the email from claims that
25:15
Speaker 4: he knew a specific location. Well, how specific is it?
25:20
Speaker 4: And by the way, talking about pressing on an investigation,
25:24
Speaker 4: have they tracked this person down? And I want to
25:26
Speaker 4: know if the screws are being put to this person?
25:28
Speaker 4: You know, what do you know? You say, and you
25:30
Speaker 4: know all of this information, give us more specifics. As
25:33
Speaker 4: a matter of fact, come and take a plane ride
25:35
Speaker 4: with us. Come out there. We're going to put you
25:37
Speaker 4: on the ground and you're going to show us where
25:39
Speaker 4: you have specific knowledge of where these remains are buried.
25:43
Speaker 4: That's what they need to be doing at this point
25:45
Speaker 4: in time.
25:46
Speaker 1: Two linn Shaw joining us, founder director of Lyn's Warriors. Lynn.
25:51
Speaker 1: The way the girls were lured there, it's classic, its textbook.
25:57
Speaker 1: They were flown there on private planes. They went swimming,
26:01
Speaker 1: horseback riding, posing for pictures, shopping sprees, and then came
26:08
Speaker 1: the rape. Yeah, it's called.
26:11
Speaker 8: The grooming process, Nancy, where one gains the trust of
26:16
Speaker 8: a vulnerable person, and certainly for a young girl, you know,
26:21
Speaker 8: a teen a young woman being around power and wealth,
26:24
Speaker 8: celebrities or government officials. It's so exciting. I do have
26:28
Speaker 8: to ask, though, and I'm always asking, you know, where
26:30
Speaker 8: were the parents when all of this was going on.
26:32
Speaker 8: But the grooming process is simply gaining the trust, you know,
26:36
Speaker 8: giving expensive presents, treating them like they've never been treated
26:39
Speaker 8: in their life, making them feel so extra special that
26:43
Speaker 8: these young, impressionable girls and women would do anything right to.
26:47
Speaker 1: Be part of this.
26:48
Speaker 8: So the next step is, Okay, we're gonna fly off
26:50
Speaker 8: to the ranch.
26:51
Speaker 7: We're gonna have a great time.
26:52
Speaker 8: We're gonna go horseback riding, we're gonna have a chef,
26:54
Speaker 8: we're gonna have massages, and we're gonna have you know,
26:56
Speaker 8: mammy petties and all kinds of stuff and shopping. Okay,
27:00
Speaker 8: that happens for a little while, and then they go
27:02
Speaker 8: in typical you know, predator for the kill, and the
27:07
Speaker 8: girls are trapped. The young women are trapped again. As
27:10
Speaker 8: I was told repeatedly, there was nowhere to run, nowhere
27:13
Speaker 8: to hide. They couldn't get away. I in my mind
27:17
Speaker 8: have nightmares about girls. Actually, one actually told me she
27:20
Speaker 8: tried running and running and running, and they caught up
27:23
Speaker 8: to her and grabbed her and brought her back to
27:25
Speaker 8: the house. This is what she reported to me. So
27:27
Speaker 8: after all of this, there was nowhere for them to go.
27:30
Speaker 8: And remember there was also an airstrip on this property,
27:32
Speaker 8: and a source of mind just told me to look
27:35
Speaker 8: at this property and to properly you know, do digs
27:38
Speaker 8: and things like that would actually be eight and a
27:40
Speaker 8: half to nine years to properly look over all these
27:44
Speaker 8: thousands of acres. So this is a sexual predator, Glaine Maxwell,
27:48
Speaker 8: all of their complicit people with them. And I have
27:51
Speaker 8: to end with in asking you, why do we have
27:54
Speaker 8: to keep begging for files to be released, names to
27:57
Speaker 8: be released. These videos have told us names over the years.
28:01
Speaker 8: Let's go and find them, Let's you know, charge them
28:04
Speaker 8: with something. Let's ask them to show us. Let's question people.
28:07
Speaker 8: I do not understand the hold up, but you know what,
28:09
Speaker 8: I fear we will never get to the bottom of
28:12
Speaker 8: this crime ever.
28:14
Speaker 1: Speaking of the victims at Zoro Ranch that many people
28:19
Speaker 1: are just now hearing about, and this is happening under
28:23
Speaker 1: our own noses. On you as soil listen, and.
28:26
Speaker 9: I suddenly realized I had to like this, be nice
28:30
Speaker 9: and be friendly because I realized that that was in
28:33
Speaker 9: great danger and he's assaulting you and the other women
28:36
Speaker 9: they're laughing. Yeah, they saw and they just laughed. I
28:39
Speaker 9: was really really petrified, and you know, it just really
28:42
Speaker 9: changed me the whole thing, you know, being going through this,
28:47
Speaker 9: and I just didn't know what to do, and I
28:49
Speaker 9: was I just really thought that I was going to die.
28:51
Speaker 1: That is Juliette Bryant an Epstein Victims speaking to our
28:56
Speaker 1: friends as Sky News doctor Bethany Marshall. It's classic. It's
29:00
Speaker 1: text book luring. Money was nothing to Ebstain and Galene
29:06
Speaker 1: Maxwell nothing. She stood by and watched this happen. She
29:10
Speaker 1: lured the girls there, she took part in the assaults,
29:13
Speaker 1: and now she's sitting in club fed running the jail.
29:18
Speaker 7: But this is classic, you know, Nancy, it is classic.
29:23
Speaker 7: And to add to what Lynn Shaw said, which was
29:26
Speaker 7: so profound and riveting, just to listen to her. You know,
29:30
Speaker 7: pedophiles also they lure other pedophiles too, So there was
29:35
Speaker 7: a whole group of people on this ranch who were
29:37
Speaker 7: in on it. It's like it was operating like a
29:40
Speaker 7: cult in a sense, where all the benefits flowed to
29:43
Speaker 7: the leader. But I think another thing that Jeffrey Epstein
29:47
Speaker 7: did to lure these girls is that he propped himself
29:51
Speaker 7: up as this kind of guru and he started giving
29:54
Speaker 7: them advice about their future. That's a little bit like
29:58
Speaker 7: p Diddy, right, you know, I'll make you a star.
30:01
Speaker 7: I'm going to give you a singing contract. This guy
30:04
Speaker 7: Epstein was so good at getting money from other people,
30:08
Speaker 7: and he lorded over these girls and made them feel
30:11
Speaker 7: like they would be rich and famous too. And by
30:14
Speaker 7: the time he began molesting them, Nancy, A part of
30:17
Speaker 7: the grooming process is that for the victim, confusion sets in.
30:22
Speaker 7: These girls would have told themselves, well, I went here voluntarily.
30:26
Speaker 7: I enjoyed the manny petties and the movies and the cash.
30:29
Speaker 7: And I did tell him that I wanted him to
30:32
Speaker 7: be a part of my future. Maybe I caused this
30:35
Speaker 7: to happen. That is the confusion of the victim until
30:39
Speaker 7: the terror sets in and they try to get away,
30:42
Speaker 7: and then they are in this isolated place. You know, Nancy,
30:45
Speaker 7: it's like the the FLDS cult. Remember when the women
30:51
Speaker 7: tried to get away, other cult members actually went after them,
30:55
Speaker 7: attacked them, brought them back, tortured them, brutalized them. So
31:00
Speaker 7: there's going to be an intimidation process on this ranch
31:03
Speaker 7: that when the girls try to get away, they're brought
31:06
Speaker 7: back and probably beaten and tortured even more. They fancied
31:10
Speaker 7: there was no getting out of it. At that point,
31:12
Speaker 7: the noose was around their neck metaphorically and literally.
31:16
Speaker 1: You're seeing only the outfits the little girls were forced
31:19
Speaker 1: to dress up in for Epstein and Maxwell. And in
31:24
Speaker 1: her book, Virginia Giffrey one of Epstein and Maxwell's many,
31:30
Speaker 1: many victims, and there's Maxwell just sitting there with that
31:33
Speaker 1: smug look on her face. Virginia Giffrey was a girl
31:37
Speaker 1: when she was first assaulted by these two. She said
31:40
Speaker 1: that Epstein and Maxwell had set Zoro up to be
31:45
Speaker 1: like a Disneyland for the girls. And I've just got
31:49
Speaker 1: to tell you to let me go out to Joe
31:52
Speaker 1: Scott Morgan on this, Jo Scott, I remember one of
31:57
Speaker 1: the first, maybe the first sodomy case, rape and sodomy
32:03
Speaker 1: on a little African American boy and the perp he
32:11
Speaker 1: was learning disabled in fact, on the stand and I
32:16
Speaker 1: had tried to work with him, with his mom sitting
32:18
Speaker 1: there with me on the stand. He couldn't really verbalize
32:24
Speaker 1: what happened. Two. It was really hard. But just remember
32:28
Speaker 1: the purp's name, Kenneth Cherry that said he the little
32:34
Speaker 1: boy loved video games. I may have told you this before,
32:39
Speaker 1: love video games. So the defendant would hang out at
32:43
Speaker 1: you know, like an arcade like remember Aladdin's Castle or
32:49
Speaker 1: Aladdin's Den or something, would be in mauled something like that.
32:53
Speaker 1: Not necessarily that one, but something like that. And to
32:56
Speaker 1: lurred this little boy learning disabled, he would give him
33:00
Speaker 1: rolls of quarters. Yep. And when the purpose home was rated,
33:08
Speaker 1: there was a child. He was married, had a great
33:10
Speaker 1: white collar job, bringing in a lot of money. Mister perfect,
33:16
Speaker 1: perfect home, perfect yard, perfect everything. When it was rated
33:21
Speaker 1: there was child porn and big containers of vasoline. He
33:27
Speaker 1: would use to rape this to only rate this little boy.
33:31
Speaker 1: And the boy could hardly talk. And the mom got
33:35
Speaker 1: suspicious when she was cleaning the boy's pants and she
33:38
Speaker 1: found like two crisp ten dollar bills in his pocket.
33:41
Speaker 1: Where did he get this? And he used the video
33:46
Speaker 1: games as a lure point. Virginia Geoffrey said that Epstein
33:51
Speaker 1: and Glene Maxwell set up Zorro to be like Disneyland
33:55
Speaker 1: for the girls and then by the time they're in
33:57
Speaker 1: the middle of a rape everything they've been there for days,
34:03
Speaker 1: being whined and dined, shopping sprees, horseback riding, a beautiful pool.
34:10
Speaker 1: And there's the quid quote qu on a little girl,
34:13
Speaker 1: a little girl that doesn't know any better.
34:17
Speaker 4: It's amazing. These people are such predators that they will bait.
34:21
Speaker 4: They will bait these individuals that are easily manipulated, that
34:26
Speaker 4: are drawn in. They want all of these fantastic things
34:30
Speaker 4: that are being offered to them. They think that they're
34:32
Speaker 4: going to come potentially without a price. And when you're lacking,
34:38
Speaker 4: when you're lacking maybe emotional maturity, you can't pick up
34:44
Speaker 4: on it and you don't realize that you're in the
34:46
Speaker 4: room with a monster all of a sudden, and that
34:48
Speaker 4: makes it all the worse. It's not that they necessarily
34:51
Speaker 4: wanted to come back to get more from this individual.
34:55
Speaker 4: Now you've passed the rupcon at that point in time.
34:59
Speaker 4: Now they're terrified to say anything. They're terrified to say
35:02
Speaker 4: no to this individual, so they wind up giving in
35:06
Speaker 4: many times, and it's a horrible set of circumstances and Nancy,
35:10
Speaker 4: when I think about it, a lot of these victims
35:13
Speaker 4: that we're hearing about are in positions of vulnerability. I'm
35:18
Speaker 4: thinking about a lot of the victims that they've talked
35:20
Speaker 4: about that may have come from, say, other locations where
35:24
Speaker 4: English is not necessarily their first language. Just imagine, just
35:28
Speaker 4: imagine that you're being flown in on a private plane.
35:31
Speaker 4: Perhaps you're being brought to a location that's out in
35:33
Speaker 4: the middle of the desert. Not only do you not
35:35
Speaker 4: know where you are, you can't communicate effectively with anybody.
35:40
Speaker 4: I think that with Virginia's case, she actually stated that
35:44
Speaker 4: she was present on the island with two girls in
35:47
Speaker 4: a room during one of these horrible events, and they
35:50
Speaker 4: English was not their first language. My question has always been,
35:55
Speaker 4: relative to this case. You bring these young women and say,
36:00
Speaker 4: for instance, or girls, and they can't speak English effectively,
36:04
Speaker 4: what happens to them? Do you put them back on
36:06
Speaker 4: a plane and you fly them back to wherever they're from?
36:09
Speaker 4: Do you just cut them loose on the streets. And
36:11
Speaker 4: that's where this really turns dark, because you look at
36:15
Speaker 4: a place like Zorro that is so incredibly vast Nancy.
36:20
Speaker 4: The best way to put an end to anybody saying anything,
36:24
Speaker 4: perhaps is to dig a hole in the ground and
36:27
Speaker 4: stick them in there after you have murdered them. And
36:30
Speaker 4: I think that that's a distinct possibility. That's a potential
36:33
Speaker 4: for something that could have happened out there. You know,
36:36
Speaker 4: you have to ask yourself this question. If somebody was
36:39
Speaker 4: willing to go down this dark road sexually, what is
36:43
Speaker 4: the barrier that prevents them from taking the next step,
36:47
Speaker 4: which is eradication of their victim? And I don't think
36:50
Speaker 4: it's a very far journey.
36:51
Speaker 9: Nancy and I suddenly realized I had to like just
36:55
Speaker 9: be nice and be friendly because I realized that that
36:58
Speaker 9: I was in great danger.
37:00
Speaker 1: He's assaulting you.
37:01
Speaker 9: And the other women they're laughing, Yeah, they saw theiric laugh.
37:04
Speaker 9: I was really really petrified, and you know, it just
37:08
Speaker 9: really changed me the whole thing, you know, being going
37:11
Speaker 9: through this, and I just didn't know what to do,
37:14
Speaker 9: and I was I just really thought that I was
37:16
Speaker 9: gonna die.
37:16
Speaker 1: From our friends's Sky News Crime Stories with Nancy Grace
37:31
Speaker 1: Epstein has a baby that said, what about Gilaine Maxwell,
37:38
Speaker 1: How is it that she can clam up and sit
37:40
Speaker 1: at club fed running the place, having every possible and
37:45
Speaker 1: nothing's happening while we are looking for bodies at Zoro
37:50
Speaker 1: Ranch and what about the rest of the files. You
37:54
Speaker 1: think we're gonna forget about that, Bondy, We're not to Dave.
38:00
Speaker 1: I'm joining us. What can you tell me about Gilaine Maxwell?
38:05
Speaker 1: Here's nothing more than a pimp. Nancy.
38:08
Speaker 3: Gilaine Maxwell is in prison in Texas and apparently works
38:13
Speaker 3: out every day but doesn't bathe. The other inmates say
38:17
Speaker 3: she is so nasty inside and out that you know,
38:21
Speaker 3: prison smells bad as it is, and she's the worst.
38:25
Speaker 3: She doesn't wait in line in the chow line. She
38:27
Speaker 3: just buffaloes her way straight through. And you know what, Nancy,
38:31
Speaker 3: the inmates allow it to happen because he she's nasty.
38:35
Speaker 3: B The woman has filed eight hundred complaints in one
38:40
Speaker 3: year against people and things in the prison. She is
38:44
Speaker 3: known throughout the prison to do to get things done
38:48
Speaker 3: by filing complaints and been very effective at it to
38:52
Speaker 3: One good example is she Glaine Maxwell actually taught an
38:57
Speaker 3: etiquette class in prison, then took twelve weeks, one day
39:02
Speaker 3: a week, teaching law and how to file things for inmates.
39:07
Speaker 3: Then she actually tried to take advantage of a religious
39:14
Speaker 3: ceremony where the kitchen staff was pouring the great views
39:18
Speaker 3: for this particular Jewish ceremony, and Elaine wanted to pour
39:21
Speaker 3: her own and the inmates said, you're not coming in
39:24
Speaker 3: the kitchen. I know you don't bathe after your work out.
39:27
Speaker 1: You stink.
39:28
Speaker 3: You surely aren't washing your hands. You're not coming in here,
39:31
Speaker 3: the inmate said. Within a day, Elaine Maxwell was in
39:35
Speaker 3: the kitchen doing her own thing.
39:37
Speaker 1: This is DJ video we've just obtained of her in
39:41
Speaker 1: her cell. Okay, uh, before I go out to our
39:45
Speaker 1: friend doctor Dwayne Hendrix, dor Bethony Marshall, explain the stink.
39:50
Speaker 1: Why is it that we hear about, for instance, Hollywood
39:52
Speaker 1: stars and really really rich people, they don't think they
39:55
Speaker 1: have to bathe.
39:58
Speaker 7: This is actually a qu peculiarity of sociopathy. And I'll
40:03
Speaker 7: explain it to you, Nancy. When you are so grandiose
40:07
Speaker 7: that you feel that you are at the center of things,
40:10
Speaker 7: that you're limitless, that everybody looks up to you and
40:14
Speaker 7: admires you, you feel no need to bathe because such
40:19
Speaker 7: and such doesn't stink, right, That's where that phrase comes from.
40:23
Speaker 7: You feel that people will admire you no matter how
40:27
Speaker 7: you look, no matter how you smell, that you are
40:30
Speaker 7: beloved and That's why. You know, it's interesting when I
40:33
Speaker 7: have patients come into my office who are disheveled, poorly dressed,
40:39
Speaker 7: but maybe they're celebrities.
40:40
Speaker 1: I do have it.
40:42
Speaker 7: That's one of the tells or the signs of pathological narcissism,
40:47
Speaker 7: because they are not concerned about how other people view
40:50
Speaker 7: them because they believe that they are constantly admired.
40:56
Speaker 1: Doctor Dwyane Hendricks, let me see him, Let me see
41:03
Speaker 1: his beautiful face. Hendrix. Guys, just so you know, former
41:09
Speaker 1: Warden MDC Metropolitan Detention Center, Brooklyn, also Warden Sheridan, Oregon,
41:15
Speaker 1: former Senior Warden USDOJ, Federal Bureau of Prisons, founder president
41:20
Speaker 1: a New Daylight Foundation, and author of who Are You
41:24
Speaker 1: See It? Say It Sees It? Why can't she be
41:29
Speaker 1: forced to take a bath?
41:32
Speaker 10: Well, Fortunately, the fact that she was moved from a
41:36
Speaker 10: secure facility to a much lesser security camp than Texas
41:41
Speaker 10: showed and they broke policy when they did that showed
41:44
Speaker 10: you the power and influence that she has over the agency.
41:48
Speaker 10: And unfortunately, individuals like her, who again who have their
41:55
Speaker 10: have the influence. They have staff scared, they have inmates scared,
41:58
Speaker 10: because at the end of the day, if you're inmate
42:01
Speaker 10: in the camp with her. You don't want to be
42:03
Speaker 10: moved to a secure facility or a jail because you've
42:07
Speaker 10: pissed this this person off. And typically inmates kind of
42:13
Speaker 10: police themselves, especially when it comes to sanitation and taking
42:17
Speaker 10: care of yourself. You know, you know why, you know,
42:20
Speaker 10: taking a shower and being clean and all of that.
42:22
Speaker 10: But unfortunately this individual will will.
42:26
Speaker 1: Will woo whoa police themselves. Yes, you're expecting murderers and
42:33
Speaker 1: rapists and dope lords to quote police themselves so they
42:37
Speaker 1: don't stink. No, I'm not saying that the world are
42:41
Speaker 1: you from.
42:43
Speaker 10: This is the prison world. At the end of the day.
42:46
Speaker 10: Ninety percent of the time, inmates will say, look, you're
42:49
Speaker 10: not going to be in my cell, You're not going
42:51
Speaker 10: to be in my bunk, you're not going to be
42:53
Speaker 10: in this unit if you're if you're not going to
42:55
Speaker 10: take care of business. So and she surely wouldn't be
42:59
Speaker 10: going in the chowhaul skipping lines. I mean, that's that's
43:03
Speaker 10: disrespect and disrespect in a prison.
43:05
Speaker 1: She is Hendrick, she is. It's happening. They mac didn't
43:10
Speaker 1: make that up. People from inside the CI Correctional Institute
43:15
Speaker 1: are saying this is happening.
43:17
Speaker 10: And there are in the staff are in fear of
43:20
Speaker 10: their jobs. And that is the reason why. The fact
43:24
Speaker 10: that they moved her from a secure facility with more
43:28
Speaker 10: than ten years on her prison sentence and they shipped
43:31
Speaker 10: her to a camp. You're not even supposed to be
43:34
Speaker 10: at a camp if you have more than ten years,
43:36
Speaker 10: and you definitely wouldn't be at a camp if you're
43:39
Speaker 10: serving time for sex trafficking and a pedophile. That would
43:43
Speaker 10: never happen. So the fact that that happened, it put
43:47
Speaker 10: everybody on palls, and its creating an environment where staff
43:52
Speaker 10: aren't taking care of business and they're not holding inmate,
43:55
Speaker 10: this specific inmate accountable, and she feels like she can
43:59
Speaker 10: go and run around and do all the things that
44:01
Speaker 10: she wants to do. And that's because of the power
44:04
Speaker 10: influence that she's yielded across this nation and across our
44:09
Speaker 10: leadership and government. So and that's unfortunate, Lynn Shaw.
44:13
Speaker 1: You know that she Elaine Maxwell, knows what happened at Zorro.
44:18
Speaker 1: She knows, and she took part in it, and no
44:21
Speaker 1: one is making her talk. She's not being charged with
44:23
Speaker 1: a thing. Nothing.
44:27
Speaker 8: Yeah, I think the question we should be asking is
44:30
Speaker 8: why is she allowed from what I hear my sources,
44:33
Speaker 8: to run the camp? And I have a different take.
44:36
Speaker 8: You know, she just is walking around all smelly, by
44:39
Speaker 8: the way, she should just rot in this camp, by
44:41
Speaker 8: the way, just to offend people because she's ruling the
44:44
Speaker 8: roost from what we hear, and you know what she's promised.
44:47
Speaker 1: Let's ask these questions.
44:48
Speaker 8: What's waiting for her when she gets out? Is she
44:51
Speaker 8: getting a pardon? Why is all of this? And I
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Speaker 8: have to point out this is why sex trafficking victims
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Speaker 8: don't come forward, don't want to talk about anything, because
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Speaker 8: they see stories I can even call this a story,
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Speaker 8: a crime spree that's gone on for decades like this,
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Speaker 8: and they say, why bother, it's the power of the
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Speaker 8: wealth and this woman, a woman doing this to girls
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Speaker 8: and young women smiling. This is why they don't come forward,
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Speaker 8: because they say, nobody believes us, nobody wants to hear
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Speaker 8: what we have to say. And so Pam BONDI better
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Speaker 8: get these files released. Even that you know what, again,
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Speaker 8: I'm going to maintain we are never going to see
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Speaker 8: the videos. There's a lot of video we heard about.
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Speaker 8: I don't know where the videos are more pictures. What's
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Speaker 8: going on here?
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Speaker 1: So you know what?
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Speaker 8: This is such a disservice to sex trafficking victims all
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Speaker 8: over the United States and across the world. But the
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Speaker 8: question is why is she allowed to run the camp?
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Speaker 8: I'm calling it the camp because we hear she disappears
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Speaker 8: twice a week in a big black suv and is
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Speaker 8: off for two hours doing something we don't know what
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Speaker 8: that is, and then comes back and nobody opens their mouths.
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Speaker 8: So we should be pressing on why is this allowed
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Speaker 8: to happen, What's going on with her?
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Speaker 7: Why?
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Speaker 8: Why we cannot give up on this story. We have
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Speaker 8: to talk about it. Twenty four seven, three sixty five.
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Speaker 1: Dave mac Epstein has a baby.
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Speaker 3: Believe it or not, Nancy, This is not that uncommon
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Speaker 3: knowledge in his inner circle. Jeffrey Epstein told one of
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Speaker 3: the abusing that he had a baby, a little boy,
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Speaker 3: with and he pointed at a picture on the wall
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Speaker 3: of this beautiful, beautiful woman, and he called her the
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Speaker 3: perfect woman, the perfect woman who, by the way, apparently
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Speaker 3: the mother of his child. He had a clay mold
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Speaker 3: made of her buttocks and has that in his or
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Speaker 3: former mansion in New York City. But Nancy, it's not
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Speaker 3: just a hidden thing here. We're talking about Andrew, the
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Speaker 3: former Duke. He actually told Sarah, his wife at the time,
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Speaker 3: and she sent an email congratulating Epstein on the birth
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Speaker 3: of the baby boy. So, yes, Epstein has an error.
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Speaker 1: Okay, I don't know how that is going to spin out.
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Speaker 1: Who is the child? Does a child know who the
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Speaker 1: father is? Right now, I'm more concerned about the bodies
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Speaker 1: that may be uncovered at Zoro Ranch and finding out why.
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Speaker 1: Even though complaints were made, official complaints were made as
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Speaker 1: far back as the nineties, nothing was done. If you
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Speaker 1: know or think you know anything about what occurred on
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Speaker 1: Zoro Ranch, please dial toll free eight hundred call FBI
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Speaker 1: eight hundred two two five five three two four. Nancy
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Speaker 1: Grace signing off, goodbye friend,