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I'm very excited to have a back Tracy Morgan. Tracy welcome, Hi,
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Hi, nice to be back. So you are back. I invited you
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back. I wanted you back because I thoroughly enjoyed having you on the first
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time we chatted. Let me read your bio and then we will dive in
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here Tracy has been qualified as a therapist since two thousand and five and practicing
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continuously in the nh NHS in the UK ever since. She's spent twelve years
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in community treatment of early psychosis and is now a clinical lead mental health liaison
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practitioner working out of acute hospital year departments. She had a trauma coach and
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also a solution focused in the therapist and committed to the foundations of Milton Erickson
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and that therapy is about the relationship, not necessarily the dogma of any specific
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modality. She says in her own words, I continue to work in the
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NHS but also have a thriving private pract this where I support people to literally
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use their own inner resources to hear with a combination of neurology, solutions focused
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therapy and occupational therapy. Tracy welcome back, lovely to be here, so
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just quickly, briefly, rather remind our listeners those who didn't hadn't tuned into
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the first time we chatted. Where you're from originally and where you are currently.
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I am originally from Scotland. I was brought up near local Omens,
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but I have lived in the West Midlands in England for oh, good grief.
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Thirty years. So I've been here my whole adult life, qualified in
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England and things so awesome. So you said before we were recording that it
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was kiss' it is a word to use that I had reached out to you.
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What I did explain actually spammed a lot of people sort of different podcasts,
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producers and things like that. I didn't actually send you one, which
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was really strange. I'd done it all the night before. I thought,
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right, feel the fear, do it anyway, get back out there because
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I've obviously had a lot of development in my career and in my therapy practice
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since then, and I thought, right, I need to start working on
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getting myself out there because obviously I'm building on the business I already have.
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And the following morning after I sent all these emails, I got you in
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my own box and I was like, really, I didn't email him?
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So it was like I almost feel it was like almost like a bit of
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a divine there's the person that Okay, so I've got to ask why didn't
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you email me? I think because I'd already been on the podcast once and
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it was and it was literally I've done it. You know when when we're
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sort of feeling the fear and doing it anyway. We tend to sort of
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do it in a little bit of a temper, but not a temper,
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if you know what I mean. It's that kind of right, just do
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it. And I think, how only emailed three others to be honest,
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and I was, and of course yours came in and I was like,
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it was literally I went to bed, I did the emails at eight pm.
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I went to bed at nine pm. I got up the following morning
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at five pm, and there you were in my inbox, and I went,
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wow, well, let's let's get into it here, so you know,
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give our listeners kind of a foundation of what you do, and then
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we'll talk more about how things have unfolded for you. Okay, the last
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time I was on the show, I had very very recently almost died.
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I had a condition called necrotizing fasciitis and sepsis. I had to have life
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saving surgery. Blessed be the NHS for you at the point of need here
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that we still have. And essentially I was just coming through, actually lived
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through more adult trauma when I actually spoke to you guys. Anyway, now
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the really interesting thing is that today I got a time hot on my journal,
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so I'm actually going to read out. This wasn't public knowledge. This
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was something I wrote to myself, and it will lead on quite nicely into
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how I've then developed as a trauma therapist, as a trauma coach. I
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actually wrote this exactly, So we're on the eighth today, so the eighth
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of February twenty twenty, just before COVID I actually wrote this. Today I
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realized how mortal and fragile I actually am. Today. I realized I may
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not have much more of a future. I thought I should really write letters
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just in case. Today felt gray and scary. Today I didn't share my
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fear with anyone, even though I could have. Today I realized everyone around
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me is as scared as I am. And today I realized that what I
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have done to myself and the result of that, may chase away some of
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my sunshine, and that scares me. Today I realize the fragility of my
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humanness, and it terrifies me because I fought and endured the abuse of others.
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But if my body stops healing and gives up, that's it. There
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is not a thing I can do to stop. That also a little bit
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of kismet that that was actually thrown up as my time hop Currently, I
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used to work in an early intervention in psychosis. I think the episode number
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that we had was three hundred and fourteen guy, because I looked it up.
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And I used to work in early intervention in psychosis, and I now
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work as a liaison team manager practitioner within the NHS. Now that is basically
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I'm a mental health professional. I have a team of them who go into
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er department to people who are in very severe distress, are acutely mentally unwell
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and have turned up an ambulances or with their family saying please help us.
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I also deal with the extremely suicidal, and all of my practice up until
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now has basically prepared me to support and train the staff that go in there.
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I still go into and actually still practice a specialist clinician, but I
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don't do it as much as my staff do. And it brings me to
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the fact that our body when they've been traumatized, and that can be from
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childhood, it can be repeated trauma, and then it can be a car
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accident, and essentially this negatively impacts on our ability to heal, and I
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mean physically heal, not just mentally heal. I mean physically immune systems,
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our, ability to digest our food, and all of these things. And
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I think what I've just read to you was basically I was sitting there and
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I was still getting temperatures. They were pumping me full of antibiotics, and
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they were working, but they were working very very slowly, and I was
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still spiking a temperature. I still felt really ill. I could barely move,
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and I thought, I don't know how to fight this, because as
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a trauma survivor, and I'm sure that we all know that that some of
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the coping mechanisms for that are keep fighting. That means clean the house,
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work harder, work out harder, eat less, punish yourself, punish your
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body, keep going. And the thing was, at that point in time,
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I realized that number one, I was physically unable to do any of
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those things, and I had to find another way. And what I had
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to do was I had to allow my brain to heal so that my body
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got a chance to heal so and then that brought me to solution focus hittinotherapy,
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which I've been I'm training in and by the time this goes to air,
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will probably be fully qualified in. And it's whereby we work with people
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to keep them in the part of their brain that allows them to access the
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solutions as opposed to being in the limpic system or the primitive brain. I'll
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give a little tiny bit of an example of that. When I walk over
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to our our department in the city of Coventry. It's quite a long walk,
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really, and when it's very cold, and when it's very hot,
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you can get kind of a bit of breath, a bit sweaty, you
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can feel a bit harassed. We're we're also working to a time table,
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so we have a key performance indicator saying that we have to be there with
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that person within sixty minutes of referral. Now, the amount of times I
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have said this to doctors that have accompanied me are students or other practitioners or
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new practitioners. They'll start to walk really fast and I'll say slow down,
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and they'll be like, but we're on a time we're on a time limit.
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And I'm like, I need you to slow down, and I'm going
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to tell you why. And as I'm walking I'm telling them, I'll say,
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we're on our way to see someone who is possibly the most distressed they
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have ever been as far as they are concerned. The world is incredibly dangerous.
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World is full of frightening polar bears, and everything is a risk.
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We're going to walk into a N. E. R. Department that is
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making loud noises, beeping. There's going to be people panicking, There's going
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to be really ill people. There's going to be crash trolleys flying all over
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the place, I says, But see when we get there, we're going
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to walk into that person, and if we're out of breath or sweaty,
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or even a little bit stressed facially, it's not going to be what we
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say. It's going to be what they say and what they pick up at
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a very instinctual level that will reinforce the fact that the world is terrifying and
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full of polar bears. And we have just walked in and reinforced that the
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world is dangerous. And if we do that, they are going to be
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in their primitive brain and their limbic system. They are going to stay there
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and we are not Anything we say, anything suggest anything at all is going
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to be completely ignored because all they're going to be thinking is fight flight freeze.
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It's the end of the world. And when I tell them this,
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they go, I never thought of it like that, And I'll watch what
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happens. So they watch what happens. And one of the first things to
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do is a walk in in a smile and I go, you're having a
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really bad day, aren't you. This says, however, it's really nice
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weather out there, or it's a fresh day. I will say something that
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is an inconsequential comment, and I'll sit down and I will attempt to bring
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them from being in their right prefrontal cortex that has got a direct link into
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their olympic system, which is worry, fear, all the negative stories they've
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ever known and ever experienced. I will want to lift them out of that,
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move them into their left prefrontal cortex, which has got all the direct
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links into the cerebral cortex where they can start to solve problems. And it's
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got every memory and every way that they have ever got through a similar distress
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before, and it works. It works every time. And I've been using
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it in my entire career and I had no idea that that's what I was
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doing. Wow, let me just study there Tracy and say, whoa,
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I'm so glad I emailed you to come back on here. First of all,
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thank you so much for sharing that journal entry. I mean, I
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got goosebumps when you were reading reading that, it's very intense. Can you
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talk more about I mean, and I just loved your description of your walk
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to the er and how how you utilize that to gather yourself and the tools
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in a sense you use. Can you talk more about your entree into solution
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focused therapy. Wow, here's the story of I really do sound quite wo
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at this point, and I do apologize. I'm very very scientific. When
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I qualified as a therapist in two thousand and five, I was really lucky.
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I worked in Birmingham and I was on rotation, which meant I moved
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to different departments to learn my craft. And because of that, I got
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sent on all the good training. Because we weren't counted really as staff numbers.
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We were super mumery. So I got sent on a course. It
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was all quite new at the time, and it was called solution focused brief
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therapy. It was born out of brief family therapy, which is the base
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that as in America, I can't ah do you know when you go to
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it, it doesn't really matter. But it was born from all of this
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research of let's stop working with the psychoanalytic model because all we're doing is re
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traumatizing everyone. I stopped digging at it. There's got to be a better
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way, and they started doing that work. So this theory of practice came
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in and it was solution focused brief therapy, and I was trained for five
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days intensive on how to deliver this. Now, being a very young,
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enthusiastic shiny everything's unicorns, I just took it for granted. But I've learnt
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this, so therefore I use it and I continued to use it my entire
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career. So that's the first part of that. I've always been very much
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into stories that heal, narrative metaphor, that kind of thing. I used
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to think it was cheating. I never quite knew why it was working,
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but it does. Then in two thousand and six, I self funded and
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off I went to the Human Givens Institute, and I learnt about let's stop
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talking psycho babble at people, Let's stop even speaking in psycho babble with each
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other. Let's just actually be real with people and tell them what's going on
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with their own minds. Let's teach them how to do it. So that
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was a human Givens model. Now fast forward all the way to last Just
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as I was recording with you, I think I was supposed to have an
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interview with the Solution Focused Hypnotherapy Training School in Bristol in the UK, because
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I was seriously thinking about engaging in that process. However I didn't because obviously
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I've been so desperately ill. And in September last year, no August last
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year, I got an email randomly out of the blue asking me if I
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was still interested. I went for the interview and I got it. Now,
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as I've been, as I've been training, I've realized that every single
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training course I have ever done throughout my entire occupational therapy career, has basically
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provided me with the entire development of solution focused hypnotherapy, which is quite amazing.
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So that's how I came to be there. I don't know if you
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you probably heard about it. You know that you've probably been trained, and
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that quite a lot of people have the miracle question. So if you woke
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up tomorrow morning and I somebody turned up and a miracle has happened and you
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are exactly where you want to be. What the miracle question that solution focus
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hypotherapy, well, solution focused brief therapy. And then obviously we had the
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hypnosis the trans state, which creates the focus between the subconscious and the conscious
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minds so that they actually commend focus and you know, there's nothing woo about
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it at all. But yeah, so that that's generally what it's about.
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What So this theme of or is more than a theme with you, but
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this the knowledge, the reality that uh that the relationship is important being real.
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Talk about why that is important to you, why that resonates with you.
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Right, I'm gonna I'm probably going to speak about a case actually,
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and it was. It's a wonderful case. Obviously I won't mention names,
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but it was. It was a young woman in her early to mid thirties
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who had gone through our crisis team system and she basically was diagnosed she was
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very psychotic when I picked her up. She had three children, one of
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them was only two at the time, and she had a husband, a
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beautiful house, a very nice you know, a nice life, and I
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went she was probably one of the most unwell people at the point of actually
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me taking the case on and gently by The strange thing was she visited me
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yesterday. I means that it's been years since I discharged her, but she
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visited me because she's actually a peer support worker within the NHS trust that I
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work in. So she's actually gone on to be a therapist and a support
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worker herself, which is phenomenal. However, and that would have been a
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diagnosis of schizophrenia in the bad old days. She's not got that at all.
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And the first time I met her, she was still quite psychotic.
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We were still early days of just medicating that imbalance. And I remember sitting
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down with her husband and her and I said to him, I said,
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you are not going to understand a single thing I am about to say,
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but I promise that I will keep reminding you so that one day you will
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understand what I'm about to say. And what I said to her husband was,
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at the moment, we have pressed control all delete on your wife's brain,
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I said, and she may appear very switched off, very distant,
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I says, And we're going to restart her in safe mode, just like
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a Windows computer. And it will take some time to get all of the
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hard drive back online and everything all working and safe again. However, she
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welcome back, but we need to be gentle and don't push this because this
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is actual neurological damage that's happened that woman. It's phenomena. And we were
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talking about it yesterday, she went, She said, I don't know what
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it was about you. You were always just able to tell the right story
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about something at the right time. She says. It was almost like she
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said, you just can do it. Because she contacted me about a career
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idea that she had and I was speaking to her and I was putting things
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together as she was messaging me, and she went, why do you always
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seem to know the right thing to say? And so because I'm listening to
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you, I'm listening to you, not symptoms, not risk, And I'm
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definitely definitely not wanting to hear or listen to your story of trauma. I
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don't want to dig into somebody's trauma. If they tell me, that's fine.
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The idea is, once somebody has expressed something from the right prefrontal cortex,
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it is our job, but it is our responsibility, it's our moral
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responsibility to ensure we do not leave them there. And whether we use humor
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or we use a story, we have to lift them out of it because
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if we leave it there, we're not resolving anything. And so it's it's
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the stories that he'll Milton ericson. As we said, you said in my
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bio, reddible guy, and nobody could ever actually work out or standardize what
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he did either, just like I can't standardize what I do. I can
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give you an idea of the tools that I use within what I do,
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but I can't standardize it because every single person, every single person is different.
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But the one thing I don't do is number one, we do not
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wallow. Number two, I do not, under any circumstances start digging into
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trauma and asking them details. All we're doing is ensuring that their primitive mind
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is saying, see, it's happening again. Primitive mind is deeply stupid.
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Doesn't know if something if the thing you're thinking about or consuming either off the
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television or off the news or a friend, it doesn't know it's not happening
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to us. So it's what it's doing is with every single negative thought the
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brain has accumulating it straight into the hippocampus and all that stress has to go
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somewhere. M hm. When when did you realize the the significance, the
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importance of you know, like you said, i'm listening to you, I'm
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not listening, not digging for your trauma. When did you realize that that
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there was magic in that, there was there was healing in that. Oh
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yeah, well, the really really odd thing is not strange. The same
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same person I was conversing with yesterday. It was a little bit of that.
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That's how I word that brilliant was. Trauma is a strange thing.
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Trauma is a strange thing because what one person would see as a trauma,
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another person would go, really, that's not hard the way to hear my
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story, Ah, I have. I have dealt with people who have been
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sexually assaulted, gang rapes, been in worse situations, being in horrific a
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sort of relationship abuse, intimate relationship abuse. Also worked with a lot of
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people who have been systematically childhood sexually abuse within families. And but the thing
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is what they see is trauma. Somebody who hasn't had that background may see
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a boy when they're a teenager being slightly too handsy, say or maybe saying
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something negative about their body as being deeply, deeply wounding. That doesn't make
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that trauma any less significant. We still need to treat that with with respect
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and not get them to dig into it and play around with it. What
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we need to do is we need to acknowledge, acknowledge that that person is
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distressed by it validated. We don't need to ask questions about it. We
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just need to say that sounds really tough, and then lift them from the
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right prefrontal cortex where that memory is and say, how do you want things
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to look? What do you want doing? Instead? What do you what
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are you missing from before the trauma or before the realization that there was a
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trauma? What do you want to do? How do you want instead of
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concentrating on the problem or the trauma, let's focus on how you want things
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to be, not how you don't want them to be. There's no there's
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no value in that. Telling stories is valuable, but we have to be
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so mindful of how those memories come up and are shared because when someone does
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share that and quite often, especially in statutory services, and I'm sure it's
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the same in the States. If somebody's in distress, how many professionals will
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they have to tell that trauma too. The brain thinks it's happening every single
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time. We're not helping. We're not helping making it with. We all
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have to ask the questions. We all have to ask them. I have
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to ask them. It's like and I always I always prefix this with this
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statement, and it's not on the paperwork, but I always prefix that.
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I says, I'm going to ask you a question. I want you to
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answer yes or no. You have no need to share that with me because
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you may never see me again, and I don't want to keep putting you
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through that. I just need a yes or no. Have you ever suffered
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from any form of abuse, physical, sexual, neglect, psychological and emotional.
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It's a yes or no. That's it, because let's acknowledge it and
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then let's hand it to the people who may do it, especially in emergency.
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Obviously that's where I work. But we need to be so mindful.
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We're not constantly asking people. And the problem is it just seems to me.
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I don't know if it's just here in the UK or if its world
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wider. It's a Western world, but all people seem to want to do
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is talk about the trauma, Oh and what happened? Em DR does it.
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EMDR does this, but especially in complex traumas, like please stop asking
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people. When did you realize that that's not necessarily the most beneficial way to
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do things. The neurology told me that basic, basic understanding of how the
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olympic system works, how we get the limpic system and the cerebral cortex and
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the prefrontal cortex is to actually work together. That's when it really crystallized.
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I always knew it. I always knew it. I mean in that text
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that I read out earlier, that I sent to myself as like a personal
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journal, I didn't tell anyone how I was feeling that point I was three
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days post almost dead. I didn't tell anybody about that. I told no
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one because number one, they were au traumatized as well, because they almost
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lost their mom and their partner and all the rest of it. But the
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thing was that sometimes you don't want to talk about it. The cure to
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distress is not necessarily telling the story over and over and over again. There
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is a catharsis in writing your story. Clearly there is. There's plenty of
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it out there. How many stories do we say that our people that are
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written out of biographies and they're phenomenally fascinating and all the rest of it.
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However, to think that that's how you recover is actually incorrect. How you
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recover as you heal first and then you tell the story as a story.
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Because it's in this it has been transferred from being an emotional memory in the
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limbic system and it has been moved into the cerebral cortex where we have emotional
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control over it, where we can realize that it tells time. This rebook
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cortex knows the difference between past, present, future. The Olympic system has
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no clue it's happening, it is happening now, and panic button on fight,
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flight, freeze, depression, depression is the safety behavior that comes from
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the Olympic system. Not a lot of people know that. Not a lot
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of therapists know that to safety behavior, it comes from our primitive ancestors.
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And it's once we realize this and actually get people to start living back in
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their prefront left prefrontal cortex, in their in their cerebral cortex, actually problem
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solving functioning, living their lives, positive actions, positive interactions, sort of
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positive thought. That's how mindfulness works, bringing you into the present moment.
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It's why gratitude practice works. It's positive thought. It's why running works.
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Positive action. It's it's not scrolling through Facebook, making sure that our interactions
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remain positive. Stay away from those toxic friends that whine and bitch all the
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time. You know that once we do that and they're doing that, then
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actually we can start to process because the brain will start to do it naturally.
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Right and solution focused therapy, of course one is engaging the prefrontal cortex,
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right, Yes, then what excites you about that so much? Oh?
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Sure? The most exciting thing about it is how many therapists do we
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see burnout and trauma? And why is that? How many nervous breakdowns and
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illness do we say? And the reason for that is our primitive mind has
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no clue whether what we are hearing or consuming is happening to us, or
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it's from the past or the future. It's a worry. That means that
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if we are listening to constant tales of just and drama, what actually happens
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is our brains are taking that on and putting it into our hypocampus and overloading
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it. Therefore, the beauty of the solution focused is that you are not
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in any way traumatizing yourself either. You are avoiding the consumption of a lot
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of negative worry. So one of the things that when I was working on
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the community in early intervention, people said, we don't understand why you don't
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burn out. I would see lots all of my patients at least once a
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week. I was really engaged. My clients didn't relapse. I had no
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hospital admissions, definitely, no use of the Mental Health Act, no suicide.
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And that was in twelve years and it was like, well, what
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am I doing different? My manager at the time was like, are we
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cherry picking your clients? What is going on? And what it is is
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that I go to people and I say, right, you want things to
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be, I will cheerlead you. I will help you access the cerebral cortex
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and all of the stuff that how you want your life to be, and
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we will problem solve those together. And we do it with humor, we
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do it with metaphor, we do it with going out on a bike.
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I've done it with a bike Occupational therapy in the UK and it's really a
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difficult thing for us to understand in America and actually worked out why the equivalent
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job in America is licensed clinical social worker and mental health. That's what I
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am here, That's what I do there. So but we use activity,
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we use positive action all the time, So in occupational therapy we do that.
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So it was like embedded in what I did, and it really hugely
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different. I mean, yeah, client's walking up to me in the street
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and hugging me that I've had years and years ago. They didn't forget me
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for some reason. We contrast that with, say, a what a typical
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approach to someone who's been traumatized. Granted not everyone, uh, you know,
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just goes in there and jumps in and digs into the trauma. But
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contrast what you just said and the way you work with how maybe other people
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might approach that. Okay, I'll probably tell another story because that's how I
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explained things. I had a young lady. I was out working doing my
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day to day stuff, and I was in my car. I had another
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client with me. We've been out, we'd had coffee, we'd been at
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a bookshop, We've been talking about literature or something. And I got a
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text message from another client who said I can't do this anymore. I'm done.
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I am done. Yeah, I read it. I said, where
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are you? They told me. I says, I'll be with you in
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twenty minutes. I'm in a different time at the moment. I'll be with
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you in twenty minutes. You hold that thought, I said to other client.
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I went, I'm going to just rush off. I said, I
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can't sit and chat in the car like we usually do, because I've just
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got to go and see someone else. They took that with the understanding of
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that they had experienced a bit of a crisis in their life as well,
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so they knew that I would kind of drop things and go and deal with
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a distress. I went up to the young women's home because I worked on
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the community, so we worked in people's homes. And I sat down and
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I says, Okay, we're in a bit of a pickle. And what
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came out was I've had enough of this. I never said the word suicide
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once it was implied in the text message, but she I never said it.
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When I got there, I went, what seems to be getting on
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top of you. Let's have a look. He said, I'm trying to
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get the kids ready, for the holiday, and and we've not got the
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transports or two and oh it's all these things, and oh my parents are
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a nightmare and oh my god, never be thinks I'm a nut cads and
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all this, and I went and brief, that's a lot. You've got
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a lot going on, a lot going on, So let's have a look
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at what are the things you really need to do to make this wonderful,
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amazing holiday that you've been so looking forward to actually happen. Because it's always
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a bit stressful going on holiday. I get that. I'm the same myself.
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We're all the same, you know, everybody gets a little bit there.
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But when you've got a long term mental illness and other challenges going on,
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those kind of things, it's huge. And she went, well,
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well I need to find transport. And I was like, well, what
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was the idea before? And she says, well, we're going to go
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by train. And I says, well, why isn't that an option?
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We haven't got enough money? Okay, is there any way you can,
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you know, conjure up that money. I left that lady's house. Forty
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five minutes later. She'd organized her tickets for the kids, she'd organized her
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dad to actually drive the other bits across that we're going to get missed because
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of the train, and essentially that crisis and that distress was actually reduced.
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Now, another practitioner perhaps who's very very stressed themselves because they're listening to a
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lot of deeply distressing things about self harm and suicide. If they get a
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text saying I've had enough, I don't want to be here anymore, they
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press their own panic button and they start to go into write I need to
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call a Mental Health Act assessment and it's commitment papers. Essentially, I need
36:45
to get a doctor. We need to medicate this. No, we don't.
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First of all, we need to listen. First of all, we
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need to actually get the context of the distress, because the primitive brain doesn't
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know whether it's a big problem or a little problem, or in the past,
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or they're worrying about something in the future, or if it's actually a
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big, scary polar bear or roaring in their face. It's all the same.
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It is it is a problem now, and the whole of the olympic
37:15
system will react with anxiety, anger, or depression. And it's as simple
37:21
as that. And the thing is that practitioners don't realize that. First of
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all, we need to listen. And the reason the reason for that is
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because their own limbic system, their own primitive brain kicks in. First.
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There's certain key words that as a clinician working with this severely distressed will will
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will will spark that, Oh my god, I'm going to end up in
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coroner's court. You know, I want to commit suicide, I've hurt someone,
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I feel like hurting someone, or I'm hearing voices. Okay, let's
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talk about that then. And because i'm cam, the client cams down mirror
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neurons, polyvagel theory, and it just all sorts itself out. How many
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times? I mean, there was actually this happened at the end of last
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year. I'll never forget it. I was I just had I have that,
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I've gone all echo in my house, and I have a solar array
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on my house, and I have air source heating. It's fabulous. However,
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this was all happening at the end of the year in winter, and
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I was studying for my hypnotherapy qualification. I had sort of all my insurances,
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I had to check that website, I had to do coursework, and
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I was also working three fifteen hour days a week and managing a team,
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which is still quite new to me. I wasn't a team manager before,
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so I'm still having to navigate the management system. I got up one morning
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and I thought, all I want to do, all I want to do.
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I just want to stay in my pajamas, make a big cup of
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hot tea, and get my blanket on and watch Netflix. I had so
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much to do. I remember I stood up and I walked over and I
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was looking at my wall light, and I went, why do I want
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to go into hibernation mode? Because hibernation mode is the primitive brain's way of
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keeping as safe. When our ancestors would look out of their cave, they
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would see snow and ice everywhere or danger all around, so they would get
39:29
back in the cave. They'd snuggle down, get their bear skins, suppress
39:34
all their bodily functions, and wait for the danger to pass. I was
39:37
like, what's my blizzard? What's the blizzard? I knew to do it
39:40
because both my unconscious and my conscious brains now actually communicate. I went,
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right, what's the blizzard, where's the blizzard? What's the blizzard? I'm
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feeling overwhelmed. So I've got this, this, this, and this going
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on. I have a reason to feel overwhelmed, and all of them are
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temporary and I Am not going to die from any of them. And that
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acknowledgment and then validating it's okay to feel a bit rubbish today, Make a
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list, do one thing at a time. And I did that. I
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didn't end up depressed. I'm not on prozac. It's fine, that's and
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that's just life. And if we just realize that no matter how mentally ill
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or how traumatized someone is, they've got the same neurological basis that we have,
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you are so friggin inspiring. I love talking to email. I'm speaking
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with Tracy Morgan. What's the best way for people to get in contact with
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you? Tracy? Right, I have a website if you even if you
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google, I mean I know you probably have it in the show notes.
40:46
Anyway, if you google Ultra Violet Holistic Therapies dot co dot UK, you
40:54
will find me and you can contact me through that on the contact The website
41:00
is still being built, so there's things being added to that all the time.
41:04
And clearly will I will take on clients to work with, because I
41:08
don't think anybody doesn't benefit from the type of work that I'm doing. There's
41:15
also a Facebook group which is very positively inspiring Facebook group, which unfortunately I've
41:22
not been working on as much as I used to, but I'm planning to
41:25
put in that self actualizing Trauma Thrivers on Facebook. You will see my photograph
41:32
on there you join the group. It's a closed group. There is definitely
41:37
nobody complaining, moaning, or talking about what horrible things have happened to them.
41:43
It's actually about the triumphs of every little wind that they have, and
41:47
everybody sort of celebrating that and encouraging each other. There are videos of me
41:53
talking about all kinds of crazy things and singing on my roof. I was
41:59
singing on my IF at one point. It was quite a get go.
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So there's that. There's also you can email me at Tracy Underscore Morgan at
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emmy dot com as well, and I think there's gonna be a WhatsApp link
42:12
from a business WhatsApp so as well. So there's also ways to get hold
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of me. Yeah awesome. We'll have the link up here at the show
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notes page at the Trauma therispodcast dot com. You you know, there's a
42:27
there's an energy that I love hopefully bringing to this podcast, and uh,
42:34
you embody that and that I knew I when I first talked, You're gonna
42:39
have this woman back, and I'm so glad I did. You're so freaking
42:44
inspiring and I just love talking to you and listening to you, and I
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can feel your energy. It's amazing, love it. Love you so much.
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Thank you so much for being here. Sincerely, I really appreciate it.
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Thank you very much. You're welcome. Moving in touch, okay,