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- 0:00Welcome to Astronomy Daily, your source
- 0:02for the latest space and astronomy news.
- 0:05I'm Anna.
- 0:06>> And I'm Avery. It's Saturday, January
- 0:0917th, 2026, and we've got an absolutely
- 0:12packed episode for you today.
- 0:14>> We really do. And we're leading with
- 0:16some bittersweet news from Mars. NASA's
- 0:19making what might be their final attempt
- 0:22to contact the Maven Orbiter, which has
- 0:24been silent for over a month now. It's
- 0:27looking increasingly unlikely that
- 0:29they'll be able to recover the
- 0:30spacecraft.
- 0:31>> That's tough news, but we've also got
- 0:34some incredible human achievements to
- 0:35celebrate. The SpaceX Crew 11 astronauts
- 0:39have safely returned to Houston
- 0:40following the first ever medical
- 0:42evacuation from the International Space
- 0:44Station. We'll get into the details of
- 0:46how that historic operation unfolded.
- 0:48>> Europe's stepping up its launch game,
- 0:50too. Aron Space has announced they'll be
- 0:53launching the first Aron 64 rocket on
- 0:56February 12th. That's the more powerful
- 0:59four booster version. This is a big deal
- 1:01for European space capabilities. We're
- 1:04also diving into some fascinating
- 1:06research today. Scientists have been
- 1:08using CERN's particle accelerators to
- 1:10simulate asteroid impacts and what they
- 1:12discovered about ironrich space rocks
- 1:15could change how we approach planetary
- 1:17defense. Then we've got something that
- 1:19sounds like science fiction, but is very
- 1:21real. China has released the world's
- 1:24first practical software for keeping
- 1:26time on the moon. Yes, lunar timekeeping
- 1:29is now a thing, and it's more important
- 1:32than you might think. And we'll wrap up
- 1:34with some stunning new images from
- 1:35Hubble. Even after 35 years in orbit,
- 1:38it's still showing us where planets are
- 1:40born in protolanetary discs around young
- 1:43stars.
- 1:44>> Lots to cover, so let's get started.
- 1:46Let's start with that Mars story, Anna.
- 1:48NASA's Maven Orbiter has been one of our
- 1:50most valuable assets at Mars for over a
- 1:53decade. What's the latest on the
- 1:55recovery efforts?
- 1:56>> Well, it's not looking good, I'm afraid.
- 1:59Maven, that's the Mars Atmosphere and
- 2:01Volatile Evolution Orbiter, went silent
- 2:04on December 6th, 2025, and NASA has been
- 2:07unable to reestablish contact ever
- 2:10since. The spacecraft has been orbiting
- 2:12Mars since 2014, providing invaluable
- 2:15data about the Martian atmosphere and
- 2:18serving as a critical communications
- 2:20relay for the Curiosity and Perseverance
- 2:22rovers.
- 2:23>> So, what exactly happened? I mean,
- 2:26communications blackouts aren't
- 2:27completely unusual for Mars missions,
- 2:29right?
- 2:30>> You're right. They're not. In this case,
- 2:32Maven passed behind Mars, which
- 2:34temporarily blocks communication. That's
- 2:37a routine occurrence, but when it should
- 2:39have emerged on the other side, NASA's
- 2:41deep space network couldn't regain
- 2:44contact. What makes it worse is that
- 2:46this happened right before a solar
- 2:48conjunction.
- 2:49>> That's when the sun sits directly
- 2:51between Earth and Mars. Correct.
- 2:53>> Exactly. During solar conjunction, which
- 2:56occurs roughly every 2 years, solar
- 2:59particles interfere with radio signals.
- 3:01NASA temporarily halts all
- 3:03communications with Mars missions during
- 3:05this period to avoid sending corrupted
- 3:08commands or receiving incomplete data
- 3:10that could damage spacecraft. Though the
- 3:12conjunction basically meant NASA had to
- 3:15wait before they could even try to
- 3:17recover Maven.
- 3:18>> And that conjunction period just ended,
- 3:21>> right? NASA said they wouldn't have
- 3:23contact with any Mars missions until
- 3:25Friday, January 16th. So, as of today,
- 3:28they're making renewed attempts to
- 3:30contact Maven. But here's the concerning
- 3:32part. Louise Proctor, the director of
- 3:35NASA's planetary science division, said
- 3:38on January 13th, and I quote, "We'll
- 3:41start looking again, but at this point,
- 3:43it's looking very unlikely that we are
- 3:45going to be able to recover the
- 3:47spacecraft."
- 3:48>> That's pretty pessimistic language from
- 3:50NASA. Do we know what might have caused
- 3:52the initial failure? The leading theory
- 3:55is that Maven started rotating
- 3:57unexpectedly after passing behind Mars.
- 4:00This would have shifted the spacecraft
- 4:02out of its planned orbit and potentially
- 4:04moved its antenna away from Earth. But
- 4:07here's where it gets more complicated.
- 4:09Maven has had aging hardware issues for
- 4:12years now.
- 4:13>> What kind of issues are we talking
- 4:14about? The spacecraft has had problems
- 4:16with its onboard inertial measurement
- 4:18units or IMUs, which are essential for
- 4:22orientation in space. Back in 2022,
- 4:25Maven spent about 3 months in safe mode
- 4:28because of IMU problems. The mission
- 4:30team had to rely on backup systems that
- 4:33have experienced accelerated wear and
- 4:35tear. They even developed an alternative
- 4:38all stellar navigation mode that uses
- 4:40stars for orientation instead of relying
- 4:43on the IMUs.
- 4:44>> So, it sounds like Maven has been living
- 4:46on borrowed time for a while now.
- 4:49>> In some ways, yes. The spacecraft's
- 4:51inability to fully recover from those
- 4:542022 outages led to missed observations
- 4:57of significant solar flares and
- 4:59disrupted its communications relay role.
- 5:02That said, Maven still has enough fuel
- 5:04to remain in orbit until at least 2030.
- 5:08So, the hardware could theoretically
- 5:10keep working if they can just
- 5:12reestablish contact.
- 5:13>> What's the impact going to be if they
- 5:15can't recover it? I imagine the rovers
- 5:17depend on these orbiters for
- 5:19communications.
- 5:20>> That's a great point. Maven has been a
- 5:22key communications relay for the
- 5:24Curiosity and Perseverance rovers. With
- 5:27Maven offline, NASA has had to shift
- 5:29more of that burden to other orbiters,
- 5:32specifically Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter
- 5:34and Mars Odyssey. This puts increased
- 5:37pressure on those spacecraft to maintain
- 5:40communications and support surface
- 5:42science activities.
- 5:43>> And scientifically, what are we losing?
- 5:45>> Maven's scientific contributions have
- 5:48been enormous. It's helped us understand
- 5:50how Mars lost its once thick atmosphere
- 5:53and became the cold, dry world it is
- 5:56today. The data it collected on Martian
- 5:58weather patterns, dust storms, and
- 6:00auroras provided insights into the
- 6:03planet's climate system and potential
- 6:05habitability. Without Maven, we'd have
- 6:08critical gaps in our ongoing atmospheric
- 6:10studies of Mars.
- 6:12>> So fingers crossed that these new
- 6:13contact attempts work out. When will we
- 6:15know more? NASA should have results from
- 6:18their latest attempts very soon. But
- 6:20given the pessimistic tone from their
- 6:22leadership, I think we need to prepare
- 6:24for the possibility that Maven's
- 6:26remarkable decadel long mission may have
- 6:29come to an end. It would be a sad
- 6:31conclusion to such a successful
- 6:33spacecraft, but it's given us more than
- 6:3610 years of groundbreaking science.
- 6:39>> Absolutely. And that's well beyond its
- 6:41original design life, right?
- 6:42>> Oh, definitely. Like so many NASA
- 6:45missions, it far exceeded expectations.
- 6:48Let's hope there's one more surprise
- 6:50left in it.
- 6:51>> Here's hoping.
- 6:52>> Moving from Mars back to closer to home.
- 6:55Let's talk about that historic ISS
- 6:57medical evacuation. Avery, this was
- 6:59really unprecedented.
- 7:01>> It absolutely was. The four astronauts
- 7:04of SpaceX's Crew 11 mission are now
- 7:06safely back in Houston after splashing
- 7:09down off the coast of Long Beach,
- 7:10California early Thursday morning. This
- 7:13marked the very first medical evacuation
- 7:15from the International Space Station in
- 7:17its more than 25 year history.
- 7:20>> Who were the crew members involved?
- 7:22>> The crew consisted of NASA astronauts
- 7:24Zena Cardman and Mike Fininky, Kima Yui
- 7:27from Japan's Aerospace Agency and
- 7:29cosminaut Oleg Platinoff from Ross
- 7:32Cosmos. They launched back in early
- 7:34August for what was supposed to be a
- 7:36standard six-month stay aboard the
- 7:38station.
- 7:39>> So they came home about five weeks
- 7:41early. Correct.
- 7:42>> That's right. One of the four crew
- 7:44members experienced a medical issue in
- 7:46orbit last week and NASA made the
- 7:48decision to bring the entire crew home
- 7:50ahead of schedule. Now, NASA has been
- 7:53very protective of medical privacy,
- 7:55which is absolutely appropriate. So,
- 7:57they haven't disclosed which crew member
- 7:59had the issue or what the specific
- 8:01medical problem was.
- 8:02>> What do we know about how they're doing
- 8:04now? According to NASA's latest update
- 8:06from Friday afternoon, all four crew
- 8:09members are stable and undergoing
- 8:11standard post-flight reconditioning and
- 8:13evaluations at Johnson Space Center.
- 8:15After splashing down, they spent about a
- 8:17day and night at a local medical
- 8:19facility in California before flying to
- 8:21Houston. I have to say, the fact that
- 8:23they described them as stable and that
- 8:26they're doing standard post-flight
- 8:28evaluations suggests this wasn't a dire
- 8:31emergency situation.
- 8:32>> That's my read on it, too. And NASA
- 8:34officials have been pretty clear about
- 8:36describing this as a deliberate,
- 8:38carefully planned operation rather than
- 8:40a panic situation. In fact, one NASA
- 8:43representative said, and I'm
- 8:45paraphrasing here, this is NASA at its
- 8:47finest, referring to how smoothly the
- 8:50evacuation and splashdown went.
- 8:52>> Can you walk us through what a medical
- 8:53evacuation from the ISS actually
- 8:55involves? This seems incredibly complex.
- 8:59>> It is. First, you have to understand
- 9:01that the ISS has medical capabilities on
- 9:04board. There's medical equipment,
- 9:06supplies, and the crew receives training
- 9:08to handle various medical situations.
- 9:10They can consult with flight surgeons on
- 9:12the ground in real time. But sometimes
- 9:14groundbased medical care is simply
- 9:17necessary, either for more advanced
- 9:18diagnostic equipment or for treatment
- 9:21options that aren't available in orbit.
- 9:23>> So, the decision to bring someone home
- 9:25is never made lightly.
- 9:27>> Exactly. In this case, the medical issue
- 9:29required evaluation and potential
- 9:31treatment that couldn't be done on the
- 9:33station. Once that call was made, they
- 9:35had to prepare the crew Dragon
- 9:37spacecraft, the same one they arrived
- 9:39in, named Endeavor, for an early
- 9:41departure. This involves checking all
- 9:43systems, planning the undocking and
- 9:45re-entry trajectory, coordinating with
- 9:47recovery teams, and making sure weather
- 9:49conditions would be suitable for
- 9:51splashdown.
- 9:52>> And they successfully executed all of
- 9:54that in just a few days.
- 9:56>> They did. The crew undocked from the ISS
- 9:58on January 14th, completed their
- 10:01de-orbit burn, and splashed down safely
- 10:03early on January 15th. Recovery teams
- 10:06were standing by and quickly retrieved
- 10:08the capsule and crew. The whole
- 10:10operation went remarkably smoothly.
- 10:12>> What about the ISS itself? How is it
- 10:14operating with a reduced crew?
- 10:16>> That's a great question. Right now, the
- 10:18station is operating with what they're
- 10:20calling a skeleton crew of just three
- 10:22people. NASA astronaut Chris Williams
- 10:25and two Ross Cosmos cosminauts Sergey
- 10:28Kutz Vertzkov and Sergey Mikayv. That's
- 10:31less than half the normal compliment of
- 10:33seven crew members.
- 10:34>> Can three people effectively run the
- 10:36ISS?
- 10:37>> They can maintain it and keep critical
- 10:39systems running, but it definitely
- 10:41limits what science can be done. The
- 10:43station won't return to its full
- 10:45operational capacity until SpaceX's Crew
- 10:4812 mission arrives. That's currently
- 10:49scheduled for February 15th. Though NASA
- 10:52and SpaceX are looking at whether they
- 10:54can move that timeline up a bit,
- 10:56>> I imagine this whole situation must have
- 10:58been quite stressful for everyone
- 11:00involved.
- 11:01>> No doubt. But what strikes me is how
- 11:03calmly and professionally it was
- 11:05handled. In one of the final
- 11:07communications before undocking, Crew 11
- 11:09commander Mike Finke said it was
- 11:11bittersweet to be leaving early. He
- 11:13handed over command of the ISS to Chris
- 11:16Williams and you could hear in his voice
- 11:18that he would have preferred to complete
- 11:19the full mission. But he also understood
- 11:22the necessity of coming home. It really
- 11:24speaks to the incredible planning and
- 11:26preparation that goes into human space
- 11:28flight. Even in an offnominal situation
- 11:31like this, the systems and procedures
- 11:33worked exactly as designed.
- 11:35>> And I think it's worth noting that this
- 11:37won't affect other upcoming missions.
- 11:39NASA administrator Jared Isaacman
- 11:41specifically stated that this ISS
- 11:43evacuation shouldn't interfere with the
- 11:45upcoming Artemis 2 moon mission, which
- 11:48is still on track for a possible launch
- 11:50as early as February 6th. That's good to
- 11:52hear. Well, here's hoping for a full
- 11:55recovery for whichever crew member
- 11:57needed the medical attention. And kudos
- 11:59to everyone involved in executing such a
- 12:02complex operation so flawlessly.
- 12:05>> Agreed. It really was NASA at its
- 12:07finest. Switching gears now to European
- 12:10space flight. Avery, Europe is about to
- 12:13debut a significantly more powerful
- 12:16version of its new rocket. Right.
- 12:18>> That's right, Anna. Aryan Space has
- 12:20announced that the first flight of the
- 12:21Aryan 64 will launch on February 12th
- 12:24from the Gana Space Center in French
- 12:26Gana. This is the four booster
- 12:28configuration of the Aryan 6 and it
- 12:31represents a major step up in capability
- 12:33for European launch services. Let's back
- 12:35up a second for anyone who might not be
- 12:38familiar with the Aryan 6. Can you give
- 12:40us the background?
- 12:42>> Sure. The Aryan 6 is Europe's newest
- 12:44heavy lift rocket designed to replace
- 12:46the Aryan 5 which served for nearly
- 12:48three decades. The inaugural flight was
- 12:51back in July 2024. And throughout 2025,
- 12:54Aryan Space flew four more missions, all
- 12:57carrying payloads for organizations like
- 12:59ESA, UMTASAT, and CENS, the French Space
- 13:03Agency. And all of those flights used
- 13:06the Arion 62 configuration.
- 13:09>> Exactly. The Arion 62 uses two P120C
- 13:13solid fuel boosters strapped to the side
- 13:15of the rocket's core stage. Each of
- 13:17those boosters produces roughly 4500
- 13:20kons of thrust. It's been doing great
- 13:22for medium lift missions with a capacity
- 13:24to deliver about 10.3 tons to low Earth
- 13:27orbit.
- 13:28>> So the Aryan 64 just adds two more
- 13:31boosters,
- 13:32>> right? It uses four of those P120C
- 13:35boosters instead of two. And that makes
- 13:37a dramatic difference in capability. The
- 13:40Arion 64 can deliver up to 21.6 tons to
- 13:44low Earth orbit, more than double what
- 13:46the Arion 62 can handle. That puts it in
- 13:49the heavy lift category, competing with
- 13:51rockets like SpaceX's Falcon Heavy.
- 13:53>> That's a significant jump. What's
- 13:55driving the need for this more powerful
- 13:57version?
- 13:58>> Well, this first mission actually gives
- 14:00us a perfect example. The Arion 64's
- 14:03first flight will be launching
- 14:05satellites for Amazon's project Cooper
- 14:07broadband internet constellation. Arion
- 14:09space has an 18 flight contract with
- 14:12Amazon. And this first mission
- 14:13designated LE01, which stands for LEO
- 14:17Europe01, will deploy 32 Cooper
- 14:20satellites.
- 14:21>> Amazon's competing with Space X's
- 14:23Starlink. Right.
- 14:25>> That's right. Amazon already has about
- 14:27180 satellites in orbit and they're
- 14:29rapidly building out the constellation.
- 14:32Having access to the more powerful Arion
- 14:3464 means they can launch more satellites
- 14:36at once which speeds up the deployment
- 14:39schedule and reduces the total number of
- 14:41launches needed.
- 14:42>> Is there anything else notable about
- 14:44this particular flight?
- 14:45>> Yes, actually this will be the first
- 14:47Arion 6 mission to use the rocket's
- 14:50larger 20 m long fairing. All previous
- 14:53flights used a shorter 14 meter fairing.
- 14:56The longer fairing provides more volume
- 14:58for larger payloads or in this case for
- 15:01fitting more satellites into the payload
- 15:02stack.
- 15:03>> How long will the mission last?
- 15:05>> Arion space hasn't published the
- 15:07complete mission breakdown yet, but
- 15:09they've stated the entire flight will
- 15:11last 1 hour and 54 minutes. That
- 15:13presumably includes deploying all 32
- 15:16satellites and then deorbiting the
- 15:18rocket's upper stage in a controlled
- 15:20manner, which is important for reducing
- 15:22space debris. What does this mean for
- 15:24Aryan Space's launch cadence going
- 15:26forward?
- 15:27>> They're being pretty ambitious. Arion
- 15:29space is aiming to double the number of
- 15:31Arion 6 launches this year compared to
- 15:342025. That would mean as many as eight
- 15:36Arion 6 flights over the next 12 months.
- 15:40Given that they're still ramping up
- 15:41operations with what is still a fairly
- 15:43new rocket, that's a challenging goal,
- 15:46but it shows their confidence.
- 15:47>> Are there any other upgrades in the
- 15:49works?
- 15:50>> Actually, yes. The company is developing
- 15:52an upgraded version of the solid fuel
- 15:55booster called the P160C.
- 15:58It carries an additional 14 tons of
- 16:00solid propellant compared to the current
- 16:02P120C.
- 16:04That upgrade has already been fully
- 16:06qualified for use on both the Aryan 62
- 16:09for medium lift missions, the Aryan 64
- 16:11for heavy lift, the Vega C for smaller
- 16:14payloads, and these future upgrades.
- 16:16Europe is positioning itself to be very
- 16:18competitive in the commercial launch
- 16:20market. And that's crucial, especially
- 16:22as we see increasing competition from
- 16:25SpaceX, China, and other emerging launch
- 16:27providers.
- 16:28>> Will the February 12th launch be
- 16:30publicly viewable? Aryan Space typically
- 16:33provides live coverage of their
- 16:34launches, so I'd expect we'll be able to
- 16:36watch this historic first flight of the
- 16:38Aryan 64. It should be quite a sight.
- 16:41Those four boosters firing together
- 16:43should make for an impressive liftoff.
- 16:46>> I'll definitely be watching. It's great
- 16:48to see Europe maintaining and expanding
- 16:50its independent access to space.
- 16:52>> Anna, let's talk about planetary
- 16:54defense. Scientists have been conducting
- 16:56some fascinating experiments using
- 16:58particle accelerators to understand how
- 17:00asteroids might respond to deflection
- 17:03attempts. This is really cool work,
- 17:05Avery. An international research team
- 17:07used CERN's high radiation to materials
- 17:10facility, that's Hyradmat, to simulate
- 17:13what happens when high energy impacts
- 17:15strike ironrich asteroids. And what they
- 17:18found could significantly change our
- 17:20approach to planetary defense. Before we
- 17:23get into the results, can you set up the
- 17:25context, why is this research important?
- 17:27>> Sure. We know there are around 37,000
- 17:31known near Earth asteroids and 120 short
- 17:34period comets whose orbits bring them
- 17:36close to Earth. While scientists are
- 17:39confident that none of the known
- 17:41potentially hazardous objects will
- 17:43strike Earth within the next century, we
- 17:45know that eventually planetary defense
- 17:47measures will be needed. And NASA's Dart
- 17:50mission demonstrated one approach, the
- 17:52kinetic impactor.
- 17:53>> Exactly. In 2022, Dart successfully
- 17:57struck the asteroid Demorphus and
- 17:59altered its orbit. But to do this
- 18:01reliably and develop effective defense
- 18:03strategies, we need to understand how
- 18:05different types of asteroids respond to
- 18:08impacts. That's where this new research
- 18:10comes in.
- 18:11>> So, they focus specifically on ironrich
- 18:13asteroids,
- 18:14>> right? What astronomers call Mtype
- 18:17asteroids. These are thought to be
- 18:18exposed metallic cores of ancient
- 18:21protolanets that were shattered in
- 18:23collisions billions of years ago.
- 18:25They're made primarily of iron and
- 18:27nickel, unlike the more common rocky
- 18:29asteroids or icy comets.
- 18:32>> How did they simulate an asteroid impact
- 18:34in a lab?
- 18:35>> This is where it gets really clever.
- 18:37They used a sample of the Campo Delio
- 18:40iron meteorite, which is a wellstied
- 18:42iron meteorite from Argentina. They
- 18:44subjected it to extremely energetic 440
- 18:47GEV proton beams at CERN's highradmat
- 18:51facility at CERN. That's an incredibly
- 18:53high energy level.
- 18:55>> And how did they measure what happened
- 18:56to the sample?
- 18:58>> They used a technique called Doppler
- 19:00vibrometry, which can detect tiny
- 19:02surface vibrations. This allowed them to
- 19:04capture realtime data on how the
- 19:06material responded to rapidly increasing
- 19:09stress, all without destroying the
- 19:11sample. They could see exactly how iron
- 19:14behaved under extreme conditions.
- 19:16>> What did they discover?
- 19:17>> This is where it gets really
- 19:19interesting. The results showed that
- 19:21Mtype asteroids can absorb significantly
- 19:23more energy without fragmenting than
- 19:26conventional models predicted. But even
- 19:28more surprisingly, the meteorite
- 19:30actually got tougher as it was subjected
- 19:32to increasing stress.
- 19:34>> Wait, it got stronger under stress?
- 19:37>> Yes. The researchers found that the iron
- 19:39dissipated more energy as stress
- 19:42increased, suggesting that the internal
- 19:44structure of asteroids can redistribute
- 19:47and amplify stress in unexpected ways,
- 19:50similar to what we see in complex
- 19:52composite materials.
- 19:54>> That seems counterintuitive. You'd
- 19:56expect materials to weaken under extreme
- 19:59stress, not strengthen.
- 20:01>> That's exactly why this is such an
- 20:03important finding. It contradicts what
- 20:05conventional models have suggested. One
- 20:08of the study's co-authors, Professor
- 20:09Gian Luca Gregori from the University of
- 20:12Oxford said this is the first time
- 20:14they've been able to observe in real
- 20:16time how an actual meteorite sample
- 20:19deforms, strengthens, and adapts under
- 20:22extreme conditions without destroying
- 20:24it.
- 20:25>> So, what does this mean for planetary
- 20:27defense strategies?
- 20:28>> A couple of things. First, it means that
- 20:30ironrich asteroids might be harder to
- 20:33deflect than we thought because they can
- 20:35absorb more energy without breaking
- 20:37apart. But it also suggests that we
- 20:39could potentially deliver energy deep
- 20:42inside an asteroid without fragmenting
- 20:44it.
- 20:45>> That could be useful if you want to push
- 20:47an asteroid rather than shatter it.
- 20:49>> Exactly. The research also helps explain
- 20:52a long-standing puzzle in planetary
- 20:54defense. Why there's often a discrepancy
- 20:57between what we infer from meteorite
- 20:59breakup in Earth's atmosphere and actual
- 21:02laboratory measurements of meteorite
- 21:04strength. This study shows that internal
- 21:06stress redistribution within the
- 21:09heterogeneous structure of meteorites
- 21:11can explain that difference.
- 21:13>> This sounds like it could inform new
- 21:15deflection methods.
- 21:16>> That's the hope. The data could help
- 21:18develop redirection techniques that push
- 21:20asteroids more effectively while keeping
- 21:23them intact. After all, the last thing
- 21:26you want when deflecting an asteroid is
- 21:28to break it into multiple pieces that
- 21:30might still pose a threat.
- 21:32>> Have they tested this with other types
- 21:33of asteroid materials?
- 21:35>> This particular study focused on iron
- 21:37meteorites, but the methodology could be
- 21:40applied to other types of asteroids,
- 21:42rocky asteroids, carbonacious asteroids,
- 21:44and so on. Each type would likely behave
- 21:47differently under extreme stress. And
- 21:49understanding those differences is
- 21:51crucial for developing a comprehensive
- 21:54planetary defense toolkit.
- 21:56>> I think what's particularly valuable
- 21:57here is that they've developed a
- 21:59technique that can test actual meteorite
- 22:01samples non-destructively. That means we
- 22:04can build up a library of data on how
- 22:06different asteroid materials behave
- 22:08without having to rely solely on
- 22:10computer simulations or destroying
- 22:13precious samples. And as we continue to
- 22:15study asteroids with missions like
- 22:17Osiris X and Hayabusa 2, we'll have more
- 22:20samples to test.
- 22:22>> Exactly. The combination of sample
- 22:24return missions, laboratory testing like
- 22:26this, and missions like DART that
- 22:28demonstrate actual deflection
- 22:30techniques, it's all building toward a
- 22:32real capability to protect Earth from
- 22:34asteroid impacts. It's reassuring to
- 22:37know that even though we don't face an
- 22:39immediate threat, we're doing the
- 22:41groundwork now, so we'll be prepared
- 22:43when we need to be.
- 22:44>> Absolutely. And this research was just
- 22:46published in Nature Communications, so
- 22:48it's getting a lot of attention from the
- 22:50planetary defense community.
- 22:52>> Avery, our next story sounds like
- 22:54something out of science fiction, but
- 22:56it's very much real and increasingly
- 22:59necessary. China has released the
- 23:01world's first practical software for
- 23:03keeping time on the moon.
- 23:05>> Lunar timekeeping software. When you say
- 23:08it out loud, it really drives home how
- 23:10much space exploration has advanced. Why
- 23:13do we need to keep time differently on
- 23:15the moon?
- 23:16>> It all comes down to Einstein's theory
- 23:18of general relativity. Time doesn't pass
- 23:21at the same rate everywhere. It's
- 23:23affected by both gravity and velocity.
- 23:26The moon's gravity is weaker than
- 23:28Earth's, which means time actually
- 23:30passes slightly faster on the moon than
- 23:32it does on Earth.
- 23:33>> How much faster are we talking about?
- 23:36>> About 56 millionth of a second per day.
- 23:40Now, that might not sound like much, but
- 23:42it adds up over time, and it can
- 23:44seriously disrupt navigation systems,
- 23:47especially when you're trying to do
- 23:48precision work on the lunar surface.
- 23:51>> So, this is a precision navigation
- 23:53issue.
- 23:53>> Exactly. Think about GPS on Earth. The
- 23:56satellites constantly have to correct
- 23:59for relativistic effects caused by
- 24:01gravity and motion. Those corrections
- 24:03are what allow your phone to pinpoint
- 24:06your location within just a few meters.
- 24:08Without accounting for relativity, GPS
- 24:11would be useless within minutes.
- 24:13>> And the moon is about to have a similar
- 24:15need for precision navigation.
- 24:16>> Right? In the past, this wasn't really a
- 24:19problem because lunar missions were
- 24:21rare, short, and mostly isolated.
- 24:24Engineers could just use Earth time and
- 24:26apply mission specific fixes when
- 24:28needed. But that's changing rapidly
- 24:31>> because we're about to have multiple
- 24:32spacecraft and eventually humans
- 24:34operating on the moon simultaneously.
- 24:36>> Exactly. Under those conditions, relying
- 24:39on custom fixes for each mission becomes
- 24:42risky and inefficient. You need a
- 24:44standardized lunar time reference that
- 24:47everyone can use.
- 24:48>> So what exactly did the Chinese team
- 24:50create?
- 24:51>> Researchers from the Purple Mountain
- 24:53Observatory in Nanjing developed
- 24:55detailed software called LTE440.
- 24:59That stands for lunar time ephemeris.
- 25:02It's based on modern planetary data and
- 25:04tracks how lunar time drifts relative to
- 25:07Earth time. The software automates
- 25:09calculations that once required deep
- 25:12expertise in relativity and celestial
- 25:14mechanics.
- 25:15>> How accurate is it?
- 25:17>> Remarkably accurate. The researchers
- 25:19found their method stays accurate to
- 25:21within a few tens of nanconds even when
- 25:24projected over a thousand years. And to
- 25:26keep daily differences within about 10
- 25:29nanconds, the calculations need to be
- 25:31accurate to parts in 10 trillion. Their
- 25:34tests show LTE 440 meets that standard.
- 25:39>> Why such extreme precision?
- 25:41>> Well, navigation is one driver, but
- 25:43there's also science. The moon offers
- 25:45unique conditions for astronomy. No
- 25:47atmosphere, minimal interference. One
- 25:50promising idea is Earth Moon very long
- 25:53baseline interpherometry where you link
- 25:56radio telescopes on Earth and the moon
- 25:58to create sharper images of distant
- 26:00objects. And that requires extremely
- 26:03precise timing.
- 26:04>> Right? Signals recorded on both bodies
- 26:07need to be timestamped to better than a
- 26:09microscond. To allow for instrument
- 26:11noise, the underlying time model needs
- 26:13to be even more accurate. Hence the
- 26:16extreme precision requirements.
- 26:18>> How does the software actually work?
- 26:20Instead of using long equations, they
- 26:23used a numerical approach based on a
- 26:25planetary model called DE440,
- 26:28which tracks the positions and
- 26:30velocities of solar system bodies with
- 26:32high precision. From that data, they
- 26:35computed how time near the moon differs
- 26:37from a solar system reference time. The
- 26:40software stores these results in compact
- 26:42files that can be quickly interpolated.
- 26:45>> What affects lunar time most? The moon's
- 26:48motion and the sun's gravity dominate
- 26:50the effect, but Earth, Jupiter, and even
- 26:53distant objects in the Kyper belt add
- 26:56smaller effects. There are monthly and
- 26:58yearly patterns that range from
- 27:00milliseconds down to micros secondsonds.
- 27:02>> I'm curious about the international
- 27:04response to this. Is China the only one
- 27:06working on this?
- 27:07>> That's a great question. Jonathan McDow,
- 27:10an astronomer at Harvard, told reporters
- 27:12that similar efforts are underway in the
- 27:14United States, but he's not aware of
- 27:17another openly available tool like this.
- 27:19He emphasized that this shows China is
- 27:22serious about lunar exploration and is
- 27:24being quite open about sharing its lunar
- 27:26related research.
- 27:28>> That's actually encouraging from an
- 27:29international cooperation standpoint.
- 27:31>> I think so, too. And it's worth noting
- 27:33that in 2024, the International
- 27:36Astronomical Union adopted a framework
- 27:38calling for the moon to have its own
- 27:40time reference. So this software really
- 27:43builds on that international consensus.
- 27:46>> What are the practical implications for
- 27:48upcoming missions
- 27:49>> as lunar activity increases and we're
- 27:52talking about NASA's Aremis program,
- 27:55China's own lunar base plans, commercial
- 27:58lunar landers, and more. Reliable
- 28:01timekeeping will support safer landings,
- 28:04smoother navigation, and better
- 28:06coordination between missions.
- 28:08Eventually, we'll likely see lunar GPS
- 28:12style systems that depend on this kind
- 28:14of precise timekeeping.
- 28:16>> It really is laying the groundwork for
- 28:18sustained human presence on the moon.
- 28:21>> Absolutely. And the researchers
- 28:23emphasize that LTE440
- 28:25is just an early step. Future versions
- 28:28will need to support real time
- 28:30navigation and networks of lunar clocks.
- 28:34But the release marks a shift from
- 28:36abstract planning to practical
- 28:38infrastructure.
- 28:39>> It's one of those things that sounds
- 28:41mundane time software, but is actually
- 28:43fundamental to making lunar operations
- 28:45work.
- 28:46>> Exactly. You can have the fanciest
- 28:49rockets and landers in the world, but if
- 28:51your spacecraft can't agree on what time
- 28:53it is, you're going to have problems.
- 28:56This is the kind of unsexy but essential
- 28:59infrastructure work that makes the
- 29:01exciting stuff possible.
- 29:02>> For our final story today, let's talk
- 29:04about the Hubble Space Telescope. After
- 29:0635 years in orbit, it's still delivering
- 29:09incredible science.
- 29:10>> It really is remarkable. NASA just
- 29:13released a new gallery of Hubble images
- 29:16showing protolanetary discs around young
- 29:19stars, essentially the birthplaces of
- 29:21planets. And these images beautifully
- 29:24illustrate one of Hubble's original
- 29:26mission goals, understanding how planets
- 29:29form.
- 29:30>> Can you walk us through what we're
- 29:31seeing in these images?
- 29:32>> Sure. When stars form, they're
- 29:34surrounded by gas and dust left over
- 29:37from the formation process. In the early
- 29:40stages, this is called a circumstellar
- 29:42disc. But once planets start forming in
- 29:45the disc, we call it a protolanetary
- 29:47disc. These discs are where planetary
- 29:50systems like our own solar system come
- 29:52from.
- 29:53>> What makes these particular images
- 29:55special?
- 29:55>> Hubble captured them using two different
- 29:58approaches. The visible light images
- 30:00taken with Hubble's advanced camera for
- 30:03surveys show four protolanetary discs
- 30:06where you can actually see polar jets of
- 30:09gas shooting out from the young stars.
- 30:12You can also see brightly lit nebula.
- 30:14And there's this cool effect where the
- 30:16dark band around each star is actually a
- 30:20shadow cast onto the nebula by the disc
- 30:22itself.
- 30:23>> That's wild. So, we're seeing the shadow
- 30:26of the planet forming disc.
- 30:28>> Exactly. And each of these systems has
- 30:31unique characteristics. One called HH390
- 30:35isn't quite edge on, so you only see one
- 30:38side of its nebulosity. Another Tao
- 30:42042021
- 30:44is seen edge on and is in a later stage
- 30:47of evolution where the dust grains have
- 30:49already clumped together into larger
- 30:51grains which is part of the planet
- 30:53formation process.
- 30:55>> What about that third one HH48?
- 30:58>> Oh, that's particularly interesting.
- 31:00HH48 is actually a binary protoar
- 31:04system. And you can see how the
- 31:06gravitational power from the larger star
- 31:09is shaping the disc around its less
- 31:11massive companion. It's a great example
- 31:14of how stellar environments affect
- 31:16planet formation.
- 31:18>> And the infrared images show something
- 31:20different.
- 31:20>> Right. The infrared images taken with
- 31:23Hubble's wide field camera 3 show the
- 31:26bright protoars despite being surrounded
- 31:29by dust. Dust absorbs starlight and then
- 31:32remits it in infrared, which allows
- 31:34Hubble to see the stars. The jets aren't
- 31:37visible in these infrared images, but
- 31:40you get a much better view of the stars
- 31:42themselves and their dusty discs.
- 31:44>> Where are these protolanetary discs
- 31:46located?
- 31:48>> Most of them are in well-known star
- 31:50forming regions. Several are in the
- 31:52Orion molecular cloud complex. That's
- 31:55one of the most active star forming
- 31:57regions visible from Earth located about
- 31:591,500 lighty years away. Others are in
- 32:02the Perseus molecular cloud.
- 32:04>> Now, we also have the James Webb Space
- 32:07Telescope observing these kinds of
- 32:08objects. How do Hubble's observations
- 32:10compare?
- 32:11>> That's a great question. JWST has been
- 32:15doing incredible work on protostars and
- 32:17protolanetary discs, too. In fact, there
- 32:20was research published in 2024 based on
- 32:23JWST observations showing that some
- 32:26young protostars have layered structures
- 32:29of winds and jets, inner jets surrounded
- 32:32by outer cone-shaped jets.
- 32:34>> So, the two telescopes are
- 32:36complimentary.
- 32:37>> Exactly. Hubble excels in visible and
- 32:40some infrared wavelengths while JWST is
- 32:43optimized for infrared. Together, they
- 32:45give us a much more complete picture.
- 32:48For instance, Hubble can show us those
- 32:50beautiful jets and nebula in visible
- 32:52light, while JWST can peer through dust
- 32:55to see the nested structure of winds and
- 32:58jets using different chemical tracers.
- 33:01How much longer can we expect Hubble to
- 33:03keep operating?
- 33:04>> That's the big question. Hubble was
- 33:06launched in 1990 with an expected
- 33:0915-year lifetime, but it's now lasted
- 33:12more than 35 years thanks to five
- 33:14servicing missions. However, it is
- 33:17showing its age. The telescope has been
- 33:19losing gyroscopes, which means it takes
- 33:22more time to point at targets.
- 33:24Observations are down by about 12% with
- 33:28a corresponding reduction in science
- 33:30output.
- 33:30>> But it's still functioning, right?
- 33:32>> Oh, yes. NASA expects Hubble to keep
- 33:35operating into the 2030s. And there's
- 33:38been talk, though it's not confirmed, of
- 33:40a possible servicing mission that could
- 33:42extend its life even further. Who would
- 33:45conduct that servicing mission?
- 33:47>> That's the interesting part. NASA
- 33:49doesn't have the space shuttle anymore,
- 33:51which was used for all previous
- 33:53servicing missions. Any future servicing
- 33:55mission would likely involve a
- 33:57commercial spacecraft, possibly
- 33:59something from SpaceX or another company
- 34:01developing servicing capabilities.
- 34:03>> It would be amazing if Hubble could keep
- 34:05going for another decade.
- 34:07>> It really would. And if it does, it'll
- 34:10continue contributing to our
- 34:11understanding of star formation, planet
- 34:14formation, and so many other areas of
- 34:16astronomy. These protolanetary disc
- 34:19images are a perfect example of how
- 34:21Hubble is still answering fundamental
- 34:23questions about how planetary systems
- 34:26like ours come to be.
- 34:28>> When you think about it, Hubble has
- 34:29literally changed our view of the
- 34:31universe. From the Hubble deep field to
- 34:33these protolanetary discs, from
- 34:35measuring the expansion rate of the
- 34:37universe to studying exoplanet
- 34:39atmospheres, it's been an incredible
- 34:41horsework.
- 34:42>> Absolutely. And the fact that it's still
- 34:45delivering cuttingedge science more than
- 34:4730 decades after launch is a testament
- 34:50to the foresight of designing it to be
- 34:52serviceable and upgradable. It's a model
- 34:54for how we should think about building
- 34:56space-based observatories.
- 34:58>> Well, that wraps up today's episode of
- 35:00Astronomy Daily. We covered a lot of
- 35:02ground from the uncertain fate of NASA's
- 35:04Maven Orbiter to the historic ISS
- 35:07medical evacuation. From Europe's
- 35:09expanding launch capabilities to
- 35:11groundbreaking asteroid defense research
- 35:14and we learned about lunar timekeeping
- 35:16software that will enable the next
- 35:18generation of moon missions. AMP saw how
- 35:20Hubble continues to reveal the
- 35:22birthplaces of planets after 35 years in
- 35:25orbit. It's been quite a week in space
- 35:28news and we've only just scratched the
- 35:30surface.
- 35:30>> Before we go, a quick reminder that you
- 35:33can find more space and astronomy news
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- 35:48>> Clear skies and we'll see you on Monday.
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