Latest / Bussin' With The Boys / Jeff Fisher

Transcript

Jeff Fisher · Bussin' With The Boys

• 0:00
  Speaker 1: This episode of Bustle with the Boys. The Boys is
• 0:02
  Speaker 1: presented by Barstool Sports. Oh dude, I'm fired up.
• 0:06
  Speaker 2: Man, Yeah, you can't. You don't have to see me one. Hello, Hello, Hello,
• 0:09
  Speaker 2: there it is. He's on this thing. Yo. This this
• 0:12
  Speaker 2: is this is the this is the marriage that people
• 0:14
  Speaker 2: wanted to see. You guys like my shirt shirt.
• 0:17
  Speaker 3: I would suck it most of the time because that
• 0:19
  Speaker 3: angle does hit you at an awkward sign.
• 0:21
  Speaker 2: I have to worry about that. No, two years ago
• 0:23
  Speaker 2: I did. But now I feel like you lost some weight.
• 0:26
  Speaker 2: He got about twenty two two years ago, I old man,
• 0:29
  Speaker 2: dropped twenty two pounds. Man. Two years ago. I was
• 0:31
  Speaker 2: on a Southwest flight and you and your wife are
• 0:34
  Speaker 2: going down. We're going to you were going to Vegas
• 0:36
  Speaker 2: for Craig Stevens. No, it was crazy. Was going with
• 0:39
  Speaker 2: his brother. They were going to have a state. Yeah
• 0:41
  Speaker 2: you were okay, Yeah, it was a it was a
• 0:43
  Speaker 2: weird deal. You even remember that, Yeah, you know he
• 0:45
  Speaker 2: had that.
• 0:46
  Speaker 3: I was sober for that flight, and then I wasn't
• 0:48
  Speaker 3: sober again until the next five I went home.
• 0:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we were going in there, you know, I don't know,
• 0:51
  Speaker 2: I don't remember what time of year. It was my
• 0:54
  Speaker 2: oldest son's coat. He was a defensive coordinator last year
• 0:57
  Speaker 2: at Southern Utah and they opened against you an l V.
• 1:01
  Speaker 2: So that might have been the trip. It was summer.
• 1:03
  Speaker 2: Maybe not have been because it was our season ended,
• 1:07
  Speaker 2: so I had to be okay late late January maybe yeah,
• 1:11
  Speaker 2: and there's really going there's I don't know, there's yeah.
• 1:14
  Speaker 2: We were probably going back to Montana or so, yeah,
• 1:17
  Speaker 2: so what's that? This is cool? You like to set up?
• 1:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, when did you first find out about busting? When
• 1:21
  Speaker 1: we were trying to tag you and get your attention
• 1:23
  Speaker 1: three days the store reached out and he actually actually
• 1:26
  Speaker 1: followed He either followed busting or something, uh minut back
• 1:30
  Speaker 1: because everybody was trying to flood his mentions to get
• 1:32
  Speaker 1: him a bust it. So we favorited a couple of things,
• 1:35
  Speaker 1: and I was like, hey, we're stoked because we would
• 1:37
  Speaker 1: pub it back.
• 1:37
  Speaker 2: See the hard part when I found out about I
• 1:39
  Speaker 2: wasn't here. You know, I was a Montana So you
• 1:42
  Speaker 2: know it's kind of hard to do it. First off,
• 1:45
  Speaker 2: you guys, does some bullets here, man, let's get let's
• 1:49
  Speaker 2: let's let's go there right now. It is I watched
• 1:52
  Speaker 2: I watched Governor Lee this morning talk about the devastation here.
• 1:57
  Speaker 2: And I don't know if you guys have had a
• 1:58
  Speaker 2: chance to go out and see it, but it is
• 2:02
  Speaker 2: it is sad. Yeah.
• 2:04
  Speaker 3: I drove through Germantown yesterday. Did it's a yeah, And
• 2:07
  Speaker 3: I mean, you know, Michael Russ and then a couple
• 2:10
  Speaker 3: of property see owns in Germantown have been have been
• 2:12
  Speaker 3: hit by the by the tornado and it's crazy. I
• 2:15
  Speaker 3: think the casualty is that twenty five people now.
• 2:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, a few missing.
• 2:22
  Speaker 4: Yeah, somebody posted a big list of people that they
• 2:24
  Speaker 4: haven't accounted for.
• 2:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, it's just so sad and you know, and
• 2:28
  Speaker 2: and the governor was cool because he was talking about
• 2:31
  Speaker 2: you know, it's so sad and so devastating and people's
• 2:34
  Speaker 2: lives are going to be changed forever. But you know
• 2:37
  Speaker 2: what it's it's people come alive at this time. And
• 2:40
  Speaker 2: you know, I was even reading stuff about something that's
• 2:43
  Speaker 2: going on with the organization because I remember it brought
• 2:45
  Speaker 2: back memories because of ninety eight we had we had
• 2:47
  Speaker 2: one rip through here and so we got the guys
• 2:50
  Speaker 2: out and did some clean up and I'll never forget
• 2:53
  Speaker 2: or as a head as a young head coach, senior
• 2:58
  Speaker 2: starting franchise quarterback. I crank up a chainsaw and just
• 3:02
  Speaker 2: get it with a chainsaw. It's a little unnerving for me,
• 3:06
  Speaker 2: but I trusted that Steve knew how to do it
• 3:08
  Speaker 2: because he was a farm boy, you know. So we
• 3:10
  Speaker 2: got out and did a lot of work in the community.
• 3:11
  Speaker 2: And I'm if the listeners and the fans here are
• 3:18
  Speaker 2: are waiting, it's going to happen, you guys, or your organization, everybody,
• 3:23
  Speaker 2: even I'm thinking about getting some retired guys together and
• 3:26
  Speaker 2: putting a group. And you can't get in it too
• 3:28
  Speaker 2: soon because everybody's trying to figure out what's going on
• 3:30
  Speaker 2: and across is doing this. But all right, this is
• 3:33
  Speaker 2: going to be a year two years before you can
• 3:35
  Speaker 2: the stuff's rebuilt. But in a month or so, that's
• 3:37
  Speaker 2: when you can really get in to make a difference.
• 3:39
  Speaker 4: Especially in Nashville. We were talking about that yesterday. He
• 3:42
  Speaker 4: went on the three h L.
• 3:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, a three HL or mid day one.
• 3:49
  Speaker 1: But I heard his snippe and then I heard, like
• 3:51
  Speaker 1: Jason fitz with the ESPN, he posted a video and
• 3:55
  Speaker 1: it's kind of like the city of Nashville just is different,
• 3:59
  Speaker 1: it'll come around.
• 4:00
  Speaker 2: It wild.
• 4:01
  Speaker 3: It's wild how this city definitely picks up and takes
• 4:03
  Speaker 3: care of its own. It's I mean, my wife is
• 4:06
  Speaker 3: she's big in the community, and she's big on that,
• 4:08
  Speaker 3: just trying to help, whether it's for the homeless people
• 4:12
  Speaker 3: in Nashville or when the hurricanes struck Houston, she had
• 4:15
  Speaker 3: a friend of hers that their family was directly affected,
• 4:18
  Speaker 3: and so within two weeks they did a charity event
• 4:21
  Speaker 3: for that and raised over one hundred thousand dollars. And
• 4:23
  Speaker 3: it's she has her little band of superhero friends and
• 4:27
  Speaker 3: they get together and Chipotle reached out, tell.
• 4:30
  Speaker 2: Us, yeah, we got Chipotle.
• 4:31
  Speaker 3: It was like a hundred burritos started going out and
• 4:34
  Speaker 3: giving out burritos and stuff like that. So trying to
• 4:36
  Speaker 3: start the initial help of just doing whatever you can.
• 4:38
  Speaker 3: And when you're putting into a position where you have
• 4:40
  Speaker 3: a podcast that's doing well and you know in this
• 4:43
  Speaker 3: community since twenty fourteen playing football, like, you have that
• 4:47
  Speaker 3: opportunity through the people you've meant to kind of you know,
• 4:49
  Speaker 3: exhaust those avenues and you get those people back on
• 4:51
  Speaker 3: their feet as soon as possible.
• 4:52
  Speaker 2: What was cool. I'll kind of give you a little
• 4:55
  Speaker 2: history lesson. When we moved here from Houston, somebody had
• 5:00
  Speaker 2: told me that Vince Gill was doing a concert at
• 5:05
  Speaker 2: Franklin High School, Okay, to raise money for the high school.
• 5:09
  Speaker 2: If it was Gil went to a high school to
• 5:11
  Speaker 2: play a concert, right, that's pretty awesome, but to do
• 5:14
  Speaker 2: it for nothing to raise money, and so that was
• 5:17
  Speaker 2: kind of the groundwork for the organization. We moved here
• 5:20
  Speaker 2: from Houston, so that was everybody was in the community
• 5:24
  Speaker 2: doing all those kind of things. And in my mind,
• 5:28
  Speaker 2: the golf tournaments run their course and everybody's doing them.
• 5:31
  Speaker 2: So that's when we started the softball. Softball game, so
• 5:34
  Speaker 2: be really cool to pick it up again, Doubteah, yeah,
• 5:40
  Speaker 2: we'll do. The last time I got it out a
• 5:41
  Speaker 2: walk away walk off man, Well off, I just kind
• 5:44
  Speaker 2: of tried. Did you bring the fences in? No? No, no, no, no, no.
• 5:51
  Speaker 4: It is a shot Sounds stadium.
• 5:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well Sounds wasn't probably built that. Yeah, I reached it.
• 6:00
  Speaker 2: It was so bad after that again yea, So it
• 6:03
  Speaker 2: was really fun. But yeah, you got I mean, it's
• 6:06
  Speaker 2: a great town and that's what it's it's all about.
• 6:09
  Speaker 2: There's you know, I mean people say this all the time.
• 6:12
  Speaker 2: You know, you move and uh, and I can speak
• 6:14
  Speaker 2: from experience. You know, I moved. I coached around a
• 6:17
  Speaker 2: little bit. So I coached on the East coast coast
• 6:19
  Speaker 2: of Philadelphia and so and then obviously moving here, you
• 6:22
  Speaker 2: move here and as soon as the movie event pulls up,
• 6:26
  Speaker 2: there's people coming in with cookies and just food and
• 6:29
  Speaker 2: and every you can imagine, all the neighbors are like
• 6:31
  Speaker 2: there to help you move in the East Coast, no disrespect.
• 6:35
  Speaker 2: They sit there and watch you crawl up the driveway
• 6:38
  Speaker 2: with refrigerator on your back. No question. It's a different world.
• 6:42
  Speaker 2: But but after over time they become really really good friends.
• 6:48
  Speaker 2: So it's it's just that it's a it's that it's
• 6:50
  Speaker 2: that difference, but it is a this is a cool
• 6:53
  Speaker 2: place and and and you know will overcome this again.
• 6:57
  Speaker 2: I mean, you know, we had the floods that that
• 6:59
  Speaker 2: you know dated you guys too aches over a weekend
• 7:02
  Speaker 2: or something like that. But here talking about all that,
• 7:05
  Speaker 2: let me put in perspective for you. The water in
• 7:07
  Speaker 2: the stadium was up to the wall, top of the wall,
• 7:12
  Speaker 2: to the first row of the seats and a cool yeah,
• 7:17
  Speaker 2: I mean it was to the top of the wall
• 7:20
  Speaker 2: to the top of the wall. Yeah, and the organization
• 7:23
  Speaker 2: and the city did such an amazing job, you know,
• 7:26
  Speaker 2: getting that water down, and we had to close you know,
• 7:29
  Speaker 2: the the area around the facility and everything because of Cumberland.
• 7:33
  Speaker 2: They didn't know it was going to come over and
• 7:35
  Speaker 2: there's water all over. But you know, things settled down
• 7:37
  Speaker 2: and we it was a business as usual before you
• 7:39
  Speaker 2: know it.
• 7:40
  Speaker 3: That's that's it. I think whoever, I always always allude
• 7:44
  Speaker 3: to Butch because I think but is such an amazing
• 7:45
  Speaker 3: job for the city the way he's kind of developed it.
• 7:49
  Speaker 3: I think Nashville does such a great job of transitioning
• 7:54
  Speaker 3: from those things and like you said, just going right
• 7:56
  Speaker 3: back to business as usual. I mean I wasn't here
• 7:59
  Speaker 3: when way was you know, not really the place to be.
• 8:03
  Speaker 3: I mean from what I've heard from outside, it was
• 8:05
  Speaker 3: like kind of like you know, a little prostitutes central,
• 8:08
  Speaker 3: a lot of drugs running around. There wasn't a lot
• 8:10
  Speaker 3: of It wasn't a great space. And then for the
• 8:12
  Speaker 3: city to come in and revamp that whole thing. Really,
• 8:14
  Speaker 3: this whole city is there's not a lot of like
• 8:16
  Speaker 3: quote what bad areas like This city does a really
• 8:19
  Speaker 3: good job of you know, making everything nice and approachable
• 8:23
  Speaker 3: and you can kind of go anywhere and feel hands
• 8:25
  Speaker 3: on deck all the time, all hands on deck all
• 8:27
  Speaker 3: the time. And the city it's caused, it's growing. Whoever
• 8:29
  Speaker 3: made the highway system is an idiot. But other than that, like, yeah, yeah,
• 8:35
  Speaker 3: the growth of the city.
• 8:37
  Speaker 2: Work in Franklin to twenty minutes to sports Park twenty
• 8:41
  Speaker 2: minutes boom. Yeah, and you know, less than six months
• 8:44
  Speaker 2: ago I left downtown trying to get down to Franklin
• 8:47
  Speaker 2: and took me an hour and a half. Yeah, that's okay,
• 8:49
  Speaker 2: I mean, that's all everything's growing, that's crazy freaking everywhere. Yeah. Yeah, Well,
• 8:54
  Speaker 2: my son and daughter in law are going a little business.
• 8:57
  Speaker 2: They're flipping houses in East Nashville right now. And the
• 9:00
  Speaker 2: one they closed on on Friday was when I was
• 9:04
  Speaker 2: watching all this stuff go down, you know, the other night,
• 9:07
  Speaker 2: and I wasn't thinking about the house. But you know,
• 9:09
  Speaker 2: obviously you worry about the people and everybody there. But
• 9:14
  Speaker 2: I mean, this thing was just it was teed up
• 9:16
  Speaker 2: and lined up, and some reason he got in there
• 9:18
  Speaker 2: yesterday and everything was fine. But everybody has done such
• 9:22
  Speaker 2: an amazing job in the surrounding areas here, whether it's
• 9:26
  Speaker 2: German Town, even West Nashville, and then you know five
• 9:29
  Speaker 2: points in East Nashville and Mount Juliet's always just growing.
• 9:33
  Speaker 2: And you know this, this mother nature business is not
• 9:37
  Speaker 2: going to set it back very long. Now they'll overcome it.
• 9:40
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, because everybody's everybody. Everybody's rallying right now. But
• 9:43
  Speaker 2: it's like.
• 9:44
  Speaker 3: Business now, mom and pop, business shut down and go
• 9:46
  Speaker 3: help out. Yeah, you turn on one of four five.
• 9:49
  Speaker 3: I listen to them when I'm when something's going on
• 9:51
  Speaker 3: in the city, just to kind of get a vibe
• 9:53
  Speaker 3: of what's going on, and I pop that on. In
• 9:54
  Speaker 3: the whole day, it's all about the tornado. It's all
• 9:57
  Speaker 3: about people going helping other people and stuff like that.
• 10:00
  Speaker 3: Buck Rising, Yeah, I mean everybody's texting Buck Rising. Shoutout
• 10:02
  Speaker 3: Buck Rising.
• 10:03
  Speaker 2: He's for the boys.
• 10:04
  Speaker 4: He's texting getting in touch with the Chipotle people.
• 10:06
  Speaker 1: We were out running around doing something and you're like
• 10:08
  Speaker 1: trying to communicate with everybody, Butcher is calling.
• 10:11
  Speaker 2: Everybody's just everyone always comes to help.
• 10:15
  Speaker 1: Like when our boy, you know, rip Matt Neely, when
• 10:17
  Speaker 1: Matt passed away, the entire city in town, when we
• 10:21
  Speaker 1: have a tailgate and rally around him. I mean everybody's
• 10:23
  Speaker 1: just always helpful around here.
• 10:25
  Speaker 2: It's crazy.
• 10:25
  Speaker 1: And then Barstool, I'm waking up in the morning after
• 10:29
  Speaker 1: you know, you get woke up by the sirens and
• 10:31
  Speaker 1: the storm kind of passes, you go back to sleep.
• 10:32
  Speaker 1: By wake up in the morning, it's like five or
• 10:34
  Speaker 1: six AM. And Barstool, everybody had been reaching out here.
• 10:37
  Speaker 1: We're trying to make sure it's at Nashville Strong, like,
• 10:39
  Speaker 1: let's raise money, let's how do we help.
• 10:41
  Speaker 2: This whole thing. So it's it's been incredible.
• 10:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah, if you go to a Barstool Sports dot com
• 10:45
  Speaker 3: or Bust Withthoys dot com national Strong shirt, all those
• 10:49
  Speaker 3: proceeds will go to helping the people that directly affected
• 10:51
  Speaker 3: by the tornado.
• 10:52
  Speaker 2: When do we go here? Water and yeah, it was
• 10:54
  Speaker 2: at the time. Now I think it's obviously changes Nissan,
• 10:58
  Speaker 2: but you can see.
• 10:59
  Speaker 3: It talked to us about the transition from when you
• 11:01
  Speaker 3: got here. So you're you're I think the only coach
• 11:04
  Speaker 3: to go through two different locations. Bring up hot in
• 11:09
  Speaker 3: Tennessee and then Saint Louis to La.
• 11:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I moved two franchises. Yeah, I'm the only one.
• 11:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah too that's played in five different cities, two franchises
• 11:19
  Speaker 2: I worked for and five we played in five different
• 11:22
  Speaker 2: cities in six different stadiums.
• 11:25
  Speaker 3: So what was it like being at Houston going through
• 11:27
  Speaker 3: that transition and bringing it here because you guys got
• 11:30
  Speaker 3: here and went to the Super Bowl.
• 11:31
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Well it wasn't as that. It wasn't that easy. Yeah,
• 11:35
  Speaker 2: no question, that's what we were. That's looking in people.
• 11:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 11:37
  Speaker 2: So so you know, just my first year as head
• 11:40
  Speaker 2: coach was ninety five. So we took our Houston Oiler
• 11:44
  Speaker 2: team to Tennessee, to Marysville, right outside of Nashville, to
• 11:48
  Speaker 2: practice against the Washington Redskins and training camp. Heath Schuler
• 11:53
  Speaker 2: was their number one pick from from University of Tennessee.
• 11:56
  Speaker 2: So it was kind of a cool deal. We're gonna
• 11:57
  Speaker 2: go in there and have, you know, like people do
• 11:59
  Speaker 2: we have, you know, joint practices and things like that.
• 12:02
  Speaker 2: And during those during that time the joint practices, I
• 12:05
  Speaker 2: found out that we were going to make announcement that
• 12:08
  Speaker 2: we were looking into potentially move in the franchise to
• 12:12
  Speaker 2: Nashville and state of Tennessee. So that's when I found out.
• 12:14
  Speaker 2: So that was ninety five. So went back to Houston
• 12:17
  Speaker 2: ninety five and all for all intents and purposes as
• 12:20
  Speaker 2: being lame duck in Houston, because I mean it's like
• 12:23
  Speaker 2: we were kids in a divorce, okay, and you got
• 12:26
  Speaker 2: to walk the fine line, and you know you want it.
• 12:29
  Speaker 2: You don't want to trash Houston. You can't go over
• 12:32
  Speaker 2: the top on Tennessee because you're still in the fans
• 12:35
  Speaker 2: in Houston support you. So anyway, it so we went
• 12:39
  Speaker 2: through the ninety five season in Houston, We went through
• 12:42
  Speaker 2: the ninety six season in Houston, and then finally in
• 12:45
  Speaker 2: ninety seven we move with Emminent and we moved so
• 12:50
  Speaker 2: but we moved right down the street here to training camp.
• 12:53
  Speaker 2: We had training camp at TSU and we had no facility.
• 12:56
  Speaker 2: We had nothing other than a place to have camp.
• 12:59
  Speaker 2: So then in ninety seven we played all our games
• 13:01
  Speaker 2: in Memphis. So imagine this. Imagine waking up in the
• 13:05
  Speaker 2: morning here and having to travel to Memphis for your
• 13:08
  Speaker 2: home games.
• 13:09
  Speaker 4: You wouldn't go stay in Memphis the night before we did.
• 13:12
  Speaker 2: We went down. We went down, and we would fly
• 13:15
  Speaker 2: down to Memphis home games. Yeah, it's just you two.
• 13:21
  Speaker 2: And then the problem we had a problem that we solve,
• 13:25
  Speaker 2: but you know, the home games in Memphis, and it's two,
• 13:28
  Speaker 2: one hundred ninety miles whatever, and now what do you
• 13:31
  Speaker 2: want to do? You want to hang out after it's
• 13:33
  Speaker 2: a home game and with a kid, family and friends
• 13:35
  Speaker 2: and stuff and drive back. No, you had to come
• 13:37
  Speaker 2: back on the airplane. We couldn't let you drive back.
• 13:41
  Speaker 2: Because our owner at the times, bless his heart, and
• 13:44
  Speaker 2: I'm forever grateful to him. We figured that if he
• 13:48
  Speaker 2: looked at the manifest and saw that we were going
• 13:51
  Speaker 2: down with a full team and coming back with nobody,
• 13:53
  Speaker 2: then we would end up bussing. Yeah, and so we
• 13:56
  Speaker 2: we kind of we had a big tent nearing so
• 13:58
  Speaker 2: first year in Memphis, US that didn't go over very well.
• 14:02
  Speaker 2: We the second year we moved back here and we
• 14:05
  Speaker 2: played at Vanderbilt. So our second season was at Vanderbilt.
• 14:08
  Speaker 2: It's much more comfortable, easier, it was, Yeah, it was.
• 14:12
  Speaker 2: And yet we're still we don't have an indoor. We
• 14:14
  Speaker 2: have one practice field out in Bellevue. And you know,
• 14:18
  Speaker 2: we ended up the year with the last game against
• 14:20
  Speaker 2: UH Minnesota, they were fourteen and one go in the playoffs.
• 14:25
  Speaker 2: We played them without any practice all week because there
• 14:27
  Speaker 2: was an ice storm here, so we didn't even have practice.
• 14:29
  Speaker 2: Season ended. We moved into the new stadium. Wow. And
• 14:33
  Speaker 2: then you know what better thing for Nashville then moving
• 14:37
  Speaker 2: into that new stadium. We were undefeated at home in
• 14:41
  Speaker 2: the new stadium with the super Bowl that's only newer one.
• 14:43
  Speaker 2: We set the bar pretty hot, set the bar very hot.
• 14:46
  Speaker 2: Growing up, I thought were going to get it this
• 14:47
  Speaker 2: year in Missouri.
• 14:49
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we got go around here a growing up
• 14:51
  Speaker 1: in Missouri lost to the Saint Louis Rams.
• 14:54
  Speaker 2: Really yeah, we were. I mean obviously Missouri was fired up.
• 14:59
  Speaker 3: What was it that ninety five ninety six season when
• 15:01
  Speaker 3: you're inevitably going through that divorce with Houston, What was
• 15:04
  Speaker 3: the attendance like?
• 15:05
  Speaker 2: What was the support like from Well, it was the
• 15:08
  Speaker 2: league wanted to make sure that it looked different. It
• 15:11
  Speaker 2: looked okay, So you know on the you guys read
• 15:14
  Speaker 2: those play by plays after the game. You know it's
• 15:16
  Speaker 2: got the starting lineups and you know all that. Well
• 15:19
  Speaker 2: up on the top it has attendance. So the right
• 15:21
  Speaker 2: next to it, right next to the your your your
• 15:24
  Speaker 2: temperature and wind and all that stuff. And it was
• 15:27
  Speaker 2: always in that thirty or forty But I promise you
• 15:30
  Speaker 2: there was maybe ten thousand and fifteen thousand Lastly, I
• 15:33
  Speaker 2: never forget we played Steelers there and Steelers travel obviously
• 15:36
  Speaker 2: very well, very well, and it was just one of
• 15:38
  Speaker 2: those stealers. I mean, Chris Berman, who's a friend of mine.
• 15:41
  Speaker 2: Was you call us the Tennessee Tuxedos or the Houston
• 15:44
  Speaker 2: whatever and everything? It was. It was hard and there
• 15:48
  Speaker 2: was a there was a lot of politics involved. There
• 15:51
  Speaker 2: were lawsuits, and there was a lawsuits there. And then well,
• 15:55
  Speaker 2: i'll give you an idea. When we got back from
• 15:59
  Speaker 2: Marysville and the announcement was made, we came back and
• 16:03
  Speaker 2: we had our fourth and final preseason game in the
• 16:07
  Speaker 2: at the Astrodome, and we got out, both teams warmed up,
• 16:11
  Speaker 2: and then I get called over to the side and
• 16:14
  Speaker 2: I'm told that they're canceling the preseason game because the
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: groundskeepers failed to do the conversion. It was a baseball
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: baseball converted from baseball to football. They didn't do the
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: conversion in the field wasn't safe, neither team could play,
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: and they canceled the preseason game. So here comes another lawsuit.
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: So you got all this, all this business going on
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: in Houston, and then you have to you have to
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: get the votes and approve the move here in Nashville
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: and raise the money and do you know the private
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: money and the public money and all that stuff. So
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: there's a referendum and the referendum was NFL Yes referendum.
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: So so you got two things going on. You got
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: a team, you got a city that just is mad
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: and you know, and upset and they're losing their you
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: know this framean Ese, the storied franchise, I love you
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: blue stuff. And then you have a new city that's
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: like come on, come on, come on. And so finally,
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: thank thanks to a lot of effort here in Nashville
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: and a lot of the older politicians of Brettison's and
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: you know Denny board Off if Daniel here that I
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: mentioned his name, But these are the guys that were
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: behind really the nuts and bolts behind relocating the franchise.
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: So it was not an easy deal. I mean I remember, well,
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: I don't know if you guys have crossed paths with
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: Al del Greco, but he was our kicker at that time, okay,
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: and Al with kick forst in Houston and then he
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: moved here with us. Alt had deposits in schools in
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: three different places for his kids in Houston in case
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: we played there in Birmingham because that's where he's from,
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: and then here in Nashville in case we moved. He
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: didn't know where we're going to play. And so what
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: was the transparency with the players?
• 17:54
  Speaker 4: Like you you can yeah, and then you've got to
• 17:55
  Speaker 4: be a head coach to everybody. Yeah, I love that stuff.
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: Oh no, it's it's just all you just tell them
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: them and tell them the truth and tell them this
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: is what's happening. And hey, look, you know if you
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: go overboard on hey, we don't know, there's no excuses
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: we can't. We got to go out and play. It
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: got to win games and that I mean, you have
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: to do that. You have to dress that. But what
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: we were doing, what Floyd and nine the staff were doing,
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: is we're putting pretty good team together as we were,
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: you know, going through all that mess. When I took
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: over as an interim head coach in ninety four, Houston
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: was a run and shoot offense. Okay, so that means
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: four wides every single snap, had one tight end on
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: the roster that was a special teams player, had a
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: full back that was a linebacker. And so I took
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: over with four or five games left I went, I
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: changed from the run and shoot to a conventional offense.
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: So with that being said, you understand that that roster
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: was built differently than it took time to build the
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: roster and I took over. Ninety five was the first
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: year of salary cap, so we had limitations. The oilers
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: were top and top and payroll in ninety four and
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: then ninety five or yeah, no, ninety four was the
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: first year. But anyway, we had to reduce our salaries
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: to make the cap by eighteen or twenty million dollars
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: a ton. That was a lot of money. So we went.
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: We had to go through this transition period where we
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: had to build the team, right, and so while we're
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: doing all this moving and playing Memphis and Vandy all
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: that kind of stuff, we're building a team. And obviously
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: we put together a pretty good team. Yeah, so many
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: moving parts. Yeah, we're going to hold that thought.
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: And you know, the drill read a few ads for
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: the boys, and this first ad is support for the
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: boys that comes from Manscaped. I fucking love Manscaped, So
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: I can't wait for this Manscaped. Who is the best
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: men's below the belt grooming? Manscaped offers precision engineer tools
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: for your family jewels. They ain't lyon, They are not lying.
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: April's Testicular Cancer Awareness Month. Did you know one guy
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: every hour, every day is diagnosed with testicular cancer? Did
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: not know that at all. So this is a reminder
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: to all the men listening. Check them things, check them
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: a little boys down there. As a matter of fact,
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna start checking my mint right now while finish
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: reading is at manscaped. In addition to providing the right
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: tools and solutions for safe and easy Manscaping has partnered
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: with Testicular Cancer Society TCS to spread awareness for men's
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: health and early cancer detection. Together, TCS and manscapes are
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: committed to raising awareness for the most common form of
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: cancer in men at age thirteen or at age fifteen
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: to thirty five and giving support for fighters, survivors, and
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: families impacted by testicular cancer as part of their We
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: Save Balls initiative.
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: God, I fucking love that while you're.
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: Down there cleaning up your sack, why not go ahead
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: and give them a little investigation for lumps, changes in size,
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: or any pain. Guys, changes in size if they're bigger, obviously,
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: if they're small already, like, if they get smaller, that's
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: just genetic, that's just you. Then them little boys are
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: just small. I think we can all agree. It's pretty
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: fun playing with your balls anyway. So go ahead, go
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: down that for a little lumps and then things are enlarged.
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: Don't get proud, don't get cocky. Call somebody. Um. Manscape
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: recommends that you check yourself once a month. If you
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: do feel any again, if you fill any umps are swelling,
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: give your doctor a call. In addition to checking yourself regularly,
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: you want to make sure your sat sack stays looking
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: fresh and clean with a Manscape Perfect Package three point oh,
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: I got I fucking love them. They do a whole
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: three point oh shit. Inside the perfect Package you'll find
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: the electric trimmer called the lawnmower. Three point oh. This
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: thing is fucking awesome. This waterproof and skin safe technology
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: will protect your skin from nicking your sack. This is true.
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: This is one thousand percent true. Usually my life growing
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: up and getting to this point at thirty years old,
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: now that I finally found manscaped this lawn more three
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: point oh, there's no more blood, there's no more nick
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: in my sack. There's no more bleeding all over the place.
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: That thing's got some melid lighting, some great it's it's
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: a phenomenal tool. There's no I haven't I haven't blood yet.
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: Some of these liquid tools for your family jewels include
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: the crop Preserver. It's an anti chafing odorant for your balls.
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: It's again, it's amazing. It's this nice little lotion.
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: You put a little you put a little bit on
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: your palm, you rub it around, you go down there
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: and you get that nice to odorant smell on your balls.
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: It smells phenomenal, very mainly very great, because look, your
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: balls stink.
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: We all know.
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: You get to midday, you get to later in the day,
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: them things you fell down there, You rub a little bit,
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: you smell. You're like, all right, nobody's going down there
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: tonight until I get in the shower. But also in
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: this package the crop Reviver, a little spritzer spray, a
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: spray on ball toner and refresher. So you know, you
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: get done with a date, you hurry up and sprint
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: to the car and get in there first, get in
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: the glove box, have a little spriitcher spray before she
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: gets in and she's wondering why you're not a gentleman.
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: Didn't open her door. You're like, Oh, I just wanted
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: to race you and see who got in the truck
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: first or the car whatever you drive um and it's good.
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: You got a little sprawl. She's like, what's that smelling?
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: You'll you'll find out later, baby. The Perfect Package three
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: point zero also includes anti chafing performance boxer briefs that
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: keep your package cool and smelling fresh all day long.
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: Join the Manscape movement start taking care of your balls today.
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: Get twenty percent off and free shipping with the code
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: bussing b u ssi in at manscape dot com. Also
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: learn more about testicular cancer screening at manscape dot com.
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: Backslash we Dash, save dash balls and share their educational
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: video to help save lives and balls again, go to
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: manscape dot com use the code busting for twenty percent
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: off and free shipping your balls. Thank you very much,
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: Your your your balls will thank you, and you're welcome. God, Yeah,
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: you guys get it. You're welcome to your balls.
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: Going to going to the Super Bowl and playing against
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: the Rams who you you ended up coaching. What was
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: that super Bowl?
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: Like? That was that was also a music City miracle?
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: Was that the same year?
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: Yes, So let's let's back up, so I'll.
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: Take you through the right Okay, take it to the
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: we got we opened our season here in the stadium. Okay,
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: we we moved into the facility and open the season.
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: That's the facility that is there now, the current facility,
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: and the guy and that was the That was the
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: thing that kept the guys alive because we were working
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: out of trailers for two years from ninety five ninety six,
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: we were in trailers right down the road in Bellevue,
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: right on the interesting. Okay, we imagine that's meeting. Sorry,
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: I imagine that happening now in there for two years.
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: Wasn't there for two years? It's been so mad, guys,
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: I had to call freaking Critter Ridder to get out
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: there to move a family of skunks from underneath the trailers.
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: You guys getting blasted by skunks. And oh, by the way, offense,
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: you guys know you're meeting in the locker room, because
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: then the defense is going to meet over here in
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: the one room that we had in the trailers, because
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: Bud didn't want to put a partition in the trailer
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: because he knew that it was temporary. So you guys
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: got to set around do your meetings in the law.
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: I was a king of saving a dollar. Huh yeah,
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: yeah again. I love him. I just you know, he
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: gave me the I wish they got the opportunity to
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: meet him. Yeah, and guess what, his daughter's pretty good. Yeah,
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: she's doing an unbelievable Yeah. So anyway, so we go, Yeah,
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: we get in there and we finally opened open the stadium.
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: I never forget the time, the moment when I took
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: the guys into the stadium for the first time. It's
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: like whoa, It's like, you know, this is what we've
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: been waiting for. We opened against Cincinnati. Jeff Blake is
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: the quarterback, and we were down by nine with four
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: minutes left to go, and fortunately Jeff Blake had cramped
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: up and had couldn't return to the game. I don't
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: know if we'd have won that game, but Steve puts
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: ten points on the board in four minutes and we
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: beat Cincinnati thirty six thirty five something like that to
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: start to win our inaugural game in the stadium. We
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: went on from there and we were undefeated at home
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: and then the place was was it packed the first
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: It's just all about it packed and going nuts. So
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: we pitched an undefeated record at home. And at that time,
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: the Colts won the division and no, I'm sorry, correct,
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry, Jacksonville had won the division. OK, and we
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: were a wild card, so we had to go, We
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: had to start. We had hosted a wildcard game against Buffalo.
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: So that's the music citing. So that's everybody's first playoff game.
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: I might have had a handful of guys that had
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: playoff experience. That's being generous. So the first playoff game
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: is a hard. Playoff is a hard thing. So you
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: tell them, hey, look we'll find a way to win.
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: The next one's going to get better, the next one's
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: going to get better, but this one is going to
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: be hard, just because the emotions and all that stuff.
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: And sure enough it was hard. I mean, they kicked
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: the field goal with sixteen seconds left and we were down.
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: And we had been working this play every weekend, every Saturday.
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: We worked to play, you know, like you go through
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: those things in the walk through every possible. I was
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: a scenario guy and all that stuff. So yeah, we
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: are we doing this. You guys, we were talking about
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: Darren Bates. Darren will tell you that on it. Every
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: single Monday, I'll put at least two maybe three punt
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: fake cent and a field goal fake in. And those
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: guys know that I'm gonna call it. Okay, other places
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: you've been, Oh, you'll have your fake and you practice that.
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: You know they got coach is never gonna call it. Yeah,
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: but they know I'm gonna call it. So so they're
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: always into that stuff and everything. So prior to the year,
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: you guys remember the Stanford Cow game years ago and
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: the band and the laterals and everybody's running all right, Well,
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: what we had was we had our Stanford Cow team
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: and that was the last play of the game. All right,
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: you got you're behind, You're gonna get the kickoff. How
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: do we get the ball on the end zone? So
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: I would take that wouldn't include you guys, unfortunately, no disrespect,
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: but I would get all the athletes. I would get
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: all the so we go. They would go.
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: Hands team at the Raiders and then I would come
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: up the field. Hey, white guys, get off the field.
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: I had left handed and right handed guys, and our
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: deal for years was just to try to keep the
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: ball alive and throw it around and later it and
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: there was no method to the madness. But that was
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: our team back football prior to so right at the
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: start of the nine nine season, Alan Lowley' special team
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: coach came to me and goes, hey, I found this
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: play during the summer, and I go, this is really cool.
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: Let's we'll put it in. But let's wait till we
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: get down to the ross. Where did he where did
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: he find the was a Texas texts like sixties from
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: the Texas, a copycats. So he comes in and we
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: go through it. So we put our we put our
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: we called a home run throwback. So we worked it
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: every Saturday and and every Saturday we had our team
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: and we take eleven guys usually practice squad guys and they,
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: you know, no helmets, and we kicked the ball here
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: or there wherever you kick it to anybody. If you're
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: a frontline guy to kick off return team, you're the center,
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: We're gonna hit the ball to you. What are you
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: gonna do it? You got to get it back to Frank, okay,
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: or someone's got to get the ball to Frank. So
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: every every week, every weekend every Saturday we worked so
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: sure ship. We come down to the end of the
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: Buffalo game and there's a TV time out after their
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: after their field goal, and and Alan walks up to
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: me and we simultaneously go home run throwback. Oh yeah,
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: So now I'm looking for Derek Mason, Okay, because Derek
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: Mason is a deep guy. Okay, Derek is out. Okay,
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: Derek has a concussion. He's next week someplace. Okay. So
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: now number two I'm looking now this during TV time out,
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: I'm looking for He's out. Okay. So our number two
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: was was Anthony Dorset Junior, and a d was cramping.
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: You ever in your career you ever been around a
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: teammate that just cramped all the time. That's him.
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: There's forty five degrees out there and you just won
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: the Yeah, make it look like a bunch of out here,
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: So no questions.
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: So she's cramping. So Kevin Dyson is I'm yelling Dice
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: get over here, and Dice is like, yeah, coach, now, Dice,
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: I'd love Kevin. And and Kevin when we got him,
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: it was the first round pick out of Utah, Utah
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: stay or whatever, and he's he actually liked the californ
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: on your kids, like, oh whatever, okay, Yeah, So I'm Kevin, Okay,
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: humun throwback, Yeah, coach, I said, we worked at every Saturday.
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: I didn't pay attention, I said, Kevin, all you need
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: to do well. You had a player tell you, coach.
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: I didn't pay attention. She was number he was number three.
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: He didn't have to pay attention. I just said, so okay, quick.
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: I said, hey, look, whatever happens out there, we're going
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: to get the ball to Frank. Okay, and all you do,
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: I want you to stay outside the numbers here. These
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: numbers pay ten, twenty thirty, and we'll get the ball
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: to and stay ten yards behind Frank. I got your coach.
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: So the coach house, everybody else had to play down. Okay,
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: everybody knew. We all knew. Everybody knew what was going on.
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: The only thing that was different was of all the
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: kicks we worked on every Saturday during it throughout the season,
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: never worked on that particular kick. It was a just
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: kind of a just a bloop kick to Lorenzo Neil.
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: We would hit him hard here, hit him hard to
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: the center, hit him hard to tackle, or hit him
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: to the deep. Guy whatever, but that that little blue
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: kick with something that was just for whatever reason, never
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: worked on. So the ball is kicked on. Yeah, so
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: Low catches the ball. Well, Low smart, he doesn't want Frank. Yeah,
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: Dyson's over there picking from standing back over here, and
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: you'll see here's Low. He catches the ball, all right,
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: he's going to get rid of it. Oh my gosh,
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: you hear Frank. You take it. Frank sets it up,
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: sells it and comes back. Look at that ten yards
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: behind the ball, right, just like we told him. Yeah,
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: how about right there, right there, I'm yelling get out
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: of bounds because field goal ties. And then I look ahead,
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: I go, oh my gosh, the jumping on the left.
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: I don't know if you can back it up. But story,
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: hang on, hang on, hang talk about this part took
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: So this is this is controversial city. Right here. What
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: do you think would have what do you think would
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: have been called had there been replay? Well there is
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: replay there to review. Oh yeah no. The wing official
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: right behind Frank on their sideline is Byron bas and
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: Byron Boston points a lateral so he points to his right,
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: to our right, his left, and I saw that, so
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: I knew it was ruled the ladder on the field
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: is half the battle. Yeah, so you have to you know,
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: so it's ruled the lateral. Now Kevin cleans it. He
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: makes the makes the you know, the play here, and
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: then he goes so, you know, right about here, I'm
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: looking to my left going, oh my gosh, you know, hey,
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: we got a chance here. Let's you know, I'm young,
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: get out of bounds, Kevin, because field goal gives us
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: a chance. And then I said, oh my gosh, here
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: we go score. So right here on the left, right
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: on the end zone, jumping in the goal line right there,
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: that kid right there. Okay, now this is a good story,
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: this kid, right, I'm gonna I'm gonna now that we've
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: seen that, I'm gonna reference this. But anyway, so the
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: ruling on the field is a lateral. They're going to
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: go to replay. Okay, so and not now as a coach,
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: I'm on the sideline going, okay, do this thing's gonna
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: this thing's going to stand. Uh, they can't overturn it.
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: It's too close. I have to go for two, okay,
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: because this touchdown puts us ahead by five, right, Okay,
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: I have to go for two. And I'm thinking, when
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: this is announced, there's no way our offensive group would
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: be able to execute a play, right, Okay, right, I
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: mean you're looking at it and and so you're.
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: Sorry because of the emotions and and everything to see
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: the miracle that just happened, to have no chance to
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: win the game.
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: But sixteen seconds, everyone thinks, oh we're fucking done. Well,
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: good year. So why this is happening, Okay, this is cool.
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: Why this is happening. Bud Adams, our owner is an
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: elevator going down. Okay, because the game was over. My
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: dad was in the bathroom. He was in he came
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: in from California, see the game. He's in the restroom. Okay,
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: there's probably sixty five, maybe sixty six thousand people here.
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: To this day, there's maybe one hundred thousand people said
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: they were there. Yeah, right, And people all over Nashville,
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: people all over Nashville, and the intersections are stopped listening
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: and getting out of their cars and going nuts, and
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: intersections all over and the whole place is going crazy.
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: So as as history would have it, I went for
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: the extra point. It was good. We went freaking crazy
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: on the sideline. We kicked the extra point, kicked the
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: ball off because in my mind, what are the odds
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: of this happening twice in the same game, you know
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: the way, Well, what people fail to bring up is
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: after we kicked the ball off to Buffalo, they pitched
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: the ball around, they pushed that sucker past midfield and
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: the game ended. Yeah that is out. So okay, we
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: won our first playoff game. Okay, We're going to Indianapolis
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: the next week. So you know, we had our home
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: in Franklin, and after after games, I had a group
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: of buddies that music music guys and things like that
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: would always come over. We would crack red wine and
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: and grill and stuff and what they called it celebration stations.
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: So I had a bunch of people over after the game. Yeah,
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: you had been there. Well remember Mike. You know you've
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: met Mike Silver. Yes, Mike Silver was in to cover
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: the game, and he was in my kitchen after the game.
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: So this little guy there that's jumping up and down, Okay,
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: that's my son. He was running polaroids on the sideline
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: during the season. Now, back then, you didn't have tablets
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: and stuff like that. All you got was like a
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: polaroid shot of the formation and then another shot of
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: the play beginning. So he's running polaroids to offense defense
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: special teams. That was his job on the sideline, and
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: he's standing there in the kitchen going, hey there, I
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: am there, I am look at me there, I am
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: right there. I made TV, I made ESPN. I go too,
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: what are you doing in the white and the white?
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you're supposed to be if you hit the
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: official bumped you. This is over. Yeah, doesn't happen. No
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: goes something so happy about being on TV to be
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: mouth his mouth shut, tears and it was like its
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: just the whole kitchen was silent, and I went, no,
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: I'm just kidding. It would have been assessed on the kickoff. Anyway.
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: That's the story. So it's pretty cool. That's bad. Yes,
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: so we play today.
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: Is still like when you walk into our facility here
• 36:40
  Speaker 3: from the players, the players walking to the left.
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: It's still drawn up. Oh yeah, how it went down everything? Yeah,
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: so it's really good. So we called it home run throwback. Okay,
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: everyone in Buffalo, every Buffalo fan since nineteen ninety nine
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: to the present, calls it home run throw forward, throw forward. Yeah, yeah,
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: for sure. But yeah, so it was with all this
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: stuff going on in the league now in the hundred
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: years and everything, in all the hundred plays, this was
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: the second the top. It was number two in playoff
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: history to the Immaculate Reception. Yeah. So anyway, yeah, it
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: was cool stuff. So this was and you can imagine
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: what the locker room was like. And I mean Tim McGraw,
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: everybody's in the logo going freaking nuts. And so now
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: we got to go to Indy. So we go to
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: Indy and we got to beat the Colts and then
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: there was a couple of cool stories up there. And
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: we beat the Colts and we came back from Indy
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: and got off the plane and went through that airport
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: and you guys have gotten off if you bust or whatever,
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: but we didn't. We we came through the terminal and
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: came down. It was thousands of people in the terminal.
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: That's so cool. And now we got to go to Jacksonville. Okay,
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: Jacksonville won our division. Jacksonville. And when I said Jacksonville,
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: you just got the funny. Okay, I get it. We
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: started it. Okay, So Jacksonville's fourteen and two. Okay, they
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: had a week off. All right. They just pounded the
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: Miami Dolphins sixty something to nothing or thereabouts in the
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: first round of playoffs, sixty two to seven. Okay, sixty
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: two to seven Marinos last game. Okay, guys, this memory
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: checks us pretty good. I like it. It was pretty impressive. Boys,
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: the boys are okay. So well, now we're going to
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: go to Jacksonville. All right, but here's the here's the
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: stuff behind the scenes. This was the last time that
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: the Super Bowl was one week after the championship game.
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: There's not two weeks. Okay, so we're going down to Jacksonville.
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: We we and two days before we go to play
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: in the championship AFC Championship Game, we got to send
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: people to Atlanta, our advanced people to Atlanta because if
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: we win, we're going to be the next day. It's
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: not like you got a week and all this kind
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: of stuff. It's like, right, you win the game to
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: so and I credit the organization because it was the
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: last time and they had done that work and we're prepared.
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: We've got a team there. But so anyway, I find
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: out that Jacksonville's crew was in Atlanta, kind of like
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: you know what, Hey, you know, coach Coughlin wants it
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: like this, so we don't really care how you want it,
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: you know. And so the assumption was they're going to
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: win the game before we've even played the game. And
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: the reason being is they were fourteen and two. Their
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: only two losses came to us. We went down there
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: and beat them, and we beat them at home. Sounds
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: sounds very familiar. Yeah, it sounds about right. Yeah, So
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: who's gonna you know, who in their right mind thinks
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: that we're gonna They're going to lose three games this year,
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: all to us.
• 39:47
  Speaker 4: Okay, so especially come off sixty two seven.
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: Yes, yes, and here we are. We've been you know,
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: we had the emotional game at home. Now we go
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: on the road to Indiing. Now we've got to go
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: down there. We go down there and we beat them.
• 40:01
  Speaker 3: So fourteen, I mean, that's a nice winter, which is like,
• 40:07
  Speaker 3: have you played Jacksonville in December?
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's always hard because you're going and you're playing
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: these cold weather games. You're not used to the heat.
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: When you go down of Jacksonville and it's like September
• 40:17
  Speaker 3: and Tennessee, it's that's a that's a tough place.
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: To play. Yeah, it's always there's so much, so many
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: good stories and underlying things between the rivalry. But so
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: we go down there and beat them. Now, now we're
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: going to super Bowl. This is Sunday, late afternoon, and
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: we got to fly back here. We get on buses
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: at the at the airport and we bring the buses
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: right and as we were coming around from the airport
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: to the stadium it was Adelphia at the time, Nissan Stadium,
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: we could see ourselves, our buses on the Jumbo Tron
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: pulling in and we got out. Both the whole team
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: got out of the buses and we walked onto the
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: field and there's thirty forty thousand fans. They're going nuts
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: because we're going to the super Bowl. So we did that,
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: and then we come back to Baptist Sports Park it
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: was called, and we have a meeting because I got
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's the guys, are you know this is
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: a post game off the airplane meeting about what you
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: got to do between now and noon tomorrow because we're
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: going to the super Bowl tomorrow afternoon. You imagine how
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: fast it turnaround. So I left the coaching staff behind,
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: went down with the players. A team left the coaches
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: to game plan and their offices Monday and Tuesday. They
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: came back, came down Tuesday night and we started our
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: practice routine on Wednesday in Atlanta had just suffered an
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: ice storm, so we practiced. We had our Super Bowl
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: practices were at Georgia Tech outside on the aster turf
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: on a frozen slipping everywhere on a field.
• 41:51
  Speaker 3: So do you do you even think to yourself made
• 41:53
  Speaker 3: maybe not even practice with a guy slips.
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: We had to get our work done. But we had
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: played the Rams once before. We beat the Rams at home,
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: uh and during the season, and so there was familiarity.
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: But the issues that we had was we lost our
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: We lost our starting free safety in the in the
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: Jacksonville in the championship game, and then in the game
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: it's in the Super Bowl itself, we lost playing Bishop,
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: who you're familiar with, yes to injury, and I ended
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: up with you know, third safeties, and it was just
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: it was all those things that happened. But yeah, it
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: was a great run. It was a great run, and
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: it still came down to one yard. Yeah, yard and
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: a half, dude, that was nuts.
• 42:31
  Speaker 4: The greatest show on turf. Marshall Fulk the fall crowd.
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: Coming out of the backfield unbelievable. Yeah, and we you know,
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: obviously we were down at halftime and and we played
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: tried to play their game the first half and the
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: Super Bowl halftimes fore like three hours, and so we
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: kind of got ourselves together and got back to what
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: we what got us there, which was which was you
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: guys up front and Eddie we just had to do.
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: So we got that going again. And so this is like, guy,
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: your your guys, this is the final play right here
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: to dice Mike Jones. Oh my god, Mike Jones tackle.
• 43:08
  Speaker 4: I know, like, uh, maybe the best tackle in the
• 43:13
  Speaker 4: history of the game.
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: I think it was.
• 43:14
  Speaker 4: There's like some show where they did the top one
• 43:16
  Speaker 4: hundred ship.
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: So that was it. And you know, Eddie's Eddie's check
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: and he's he's releasing on the bottom, Frank And anyway,
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: I'm not going to did you. I'm not going to
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: throw anybody under the bus. I didn't watch this game
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: for like ten years. Really, Yeah. I finally watched it
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: because I was doing some I had to do something
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: on it. Who was wide open? Well, no, the you
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: can imagine you got eleven guys in the last play
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: of the Super Bowl and you know, yeah, all eleven
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: have to do the right thing right and uh and
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: you know, it just wasn't executed the way we wanted to.
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: But anyway we got out of the yard, I think
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: we had to be executed it properly. We may have
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: walked in so and then of course I was asking,
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: that's tacklet it's a great it's a great tackle. So
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: and then I was asked, okay, you know, would you
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: would you a J. Brown agent never gets tackled by
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: the first guy and he's a rookie. You score your
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: your down one extra point ties it? And I was asked,
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: what do you do? And you know, would you're gone
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: for two? And all that the way the way that
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: well you got to take the point, the way the
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: momentum had changed. I mean, Kevin Carter and their whole
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: defense was dead tired. I mean they were they were done,
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: you know, because we had put that together. Two freaking
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: amazing drives. There's so many plays on this drive. I mean,
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: if you want to know anything about Steve McNair, you know,
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: I think about every day you watch this drive, you know,
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's really cool, people up going down, the
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: field around shedding people. Boy is just people's strong beast.
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: I mean you talk. You said something about Eddie. I
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: mean Steve and Eddie were like they were the dudes.
• 45:08
  Speaker 3: And they were kind of like a ying and yang, right,
• 45:10
  Speaker 3: Eddie was the misser, always suited and booted, very proper,
• 45:14
  Speaker 3: took care of it. We'll never be walking out beer gut,
• 45:16
  Speaker 3: hanging out having a couple of beers after the game. Yes,
• 45:19
  Speaker 3: like kind of like a Ben Roethlisberger type seeing it.
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: Steve was. We could go hours on Steve. But yeah,
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: you guys are awesome. So look at this stuff. That's all.
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: Stuff just goes to Dyson. Look at that I kept
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: a drive alive.
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: Are there any other plays in the game that you
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: think about besides the execution of that last play that
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: you're like, Man, if I would have if we would
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: have called this like sometimes like you.
• 45:45
  Speaker 4: Know, like when you mess up, Like if I would
• 45:47
  Speaker 4: have just fucking moved this way that.
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: I know I should have moved, I don't would have
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: made That's a great question. I just think in general terms,
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: I think we've got a little derailed in the first
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: half because we got we're playing the greatest show on turf,
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: and I think offensively, we wanted to show that we
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: could throw it around a little bit too, and we
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: got away from what got us there, and I was
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: pissed at halftime, and I just said, Hey, this is
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: how we're going to get back.
• 46:09
  Speaker 3: You you don't seem like this kind of guy, but
• 46:12
  Speaker 3: there is definitely a battle of egos when you go
• 46:14
  Speaker 3: to play another team that's the greatest show on turf,
• 46:18
  Speaker 3: the greatest offense to ever be, the type of thing.
• 46:20
  Speaker 3: And and like you said, you kind of like.
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: It's football and your strengths versus their strengths and how
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: do you get them to do something that they're not
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: good at and vice versa and all that. But you know,
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: I just felt like if we have any chance to
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: win this game, particularly because of the injuries that we'd
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: had in the game and in the championship game, we're
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: down to third and four safeties, you know, and so
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: you know, I just felt like we need to get
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: this Eddie. Eddie will take this game over, and we
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: need to handle he was so so we did and
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: we got back, and you know, it made it a
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: great game. But yeah, so so game's over. I don't
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: I can't find Dick coach for mill because all the stuff.
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: And so I did have a kind of a little
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: moment with Steve there. It's that I've never and I won't,
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: so don't ask, but it was he and Steve and
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: I in a moment there on the field. And then
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: I went in and you know, it's like, you know,
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: I mean, I watch Super bowls now and they're sympathetic
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: to you know, the one team wins, the one team loses,
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: and you know, it's it's not an easy thing. So
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: in the locker room and the doors shut and we're
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: kind of putting things in perspective as best you can
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: an emotional thing, and so it is just it's just
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: that emotion is something that you don't feel. You feel
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: once in a lifetime maybe, but so anyway, we're going
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: through it, and you know, guys start clearing out and everything,
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: and so now now it's time for me to do
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: my press conference. So I walk out and I get
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: up on the podium and I see my family and
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: there and my kids are I can see them there
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: with Julie, and my kids are crying because their dad
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: just lost the Super Bowl. So I'm answering questions and
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: things like that, and then immediate meetly to my left,
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: this guy says, excuse me, coach, and I'm kind of
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: looking at him, and he goes, you got to take
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: this call. And this is a bizarre request when you're
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: doing a postgame press conference. And I said, what do
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: you mean call? And I looked and our media relations
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: director goes like that. I go, well, who is it?
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: He goes, this is the vice president and I go, well,
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: what vice president? And he goes, vice President Al Gore.
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: He wants to talk to the United States Yeah, and
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: I go yeah, I go okay, I go, hello, Hi,
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: this is Jeff You go, coach man, what a great
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: game because he was Tennessee guy and just and he's
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: going nuts. I go, excuse me, sir, but we lost,
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: you know, I know, but he was the best game.
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: I'm so proud of you guys. What a great ding.
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: I going, oh, thank you, thank you very much. So
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: I thought that was really cool. I finished the press conference,
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: go in the locker room. Everybody's kind of working their
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: way out. I got both my boys in there, and
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: I'm showering, changing and and getting ready to get my bag.
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: And these guys come in with these freaking ear pieces
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: and stuff, and he excuse me, coach, you need to
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: come with us, and you need to take a phone
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: call out here. I go, look, I've already done the
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: phone call thing and he goes, he goes, no, you
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: need to come take this call. And go, well, who's
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: calling now and he goes it's the president and then
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: president the president. So it's like all of us. I said, Okay,
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: come on, guys, let's go, and they go they can't,
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: they can't. I go, no, they're coming. My boys are
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: coming with me. So anyway, it was it was President Clinton,
• 49:35
  Speaker 2: and the same thing was what a great game. I
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: watched him in the Oval office and da da da da,
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: and you guys should be so proud, and we'll thank you,
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: miss President. If you're ever in Washington, come on by man.
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: You know, I love to have you there and show
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: you around and all this kind of stuff and that,
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: No you didn't I didn't know. The rams went well, yeah,
• 49:53
  Speaker 2: but no, hey, he's just there, you know what. The
• 49:57
  Speaker 2: same day, no one told me. Yeah. But but so
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: with all these things, easy, don't piss off. He's going
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: to cover anyway.
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: So the next day we have our party and we
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: we you know, we blow out there and come on back,
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: and it was it took a week to just just
• 50:21
  Speaker 2: because it was such a blur. It was so fast. Again,
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: it was one week, you know, we just had no time,
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: and then two weeks. I don't know, you know, Tell,
• 50:31
  Speaker 2: I don't know if the outcome would have been different,
• 50:33
  Speaker 2: I don't know, but I know the experience would have
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: been different because it was such a rush and the
• 50:38
  Speaker 2: weather was so bad in Atlanta, and you know, all
• 50:41
  Speaker 2: these things were going on. Ray was Ray was Ray
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: Lewis had his deal, you know, and so there's a
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: lot of distractions going on. And so we get back,
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: come back Monday, Tuesday, we have this prey, okay, and
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: it's a prey and it is every all the players,
• 50:59
  Speaker 2: and we're buzz around Nashville and Broadway and everything and
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: fans just you can imagine. It was like the draft
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: or it's like a freaking Pred's playoff game. But they
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: were just all over the place. So we get to
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: that and it's all over. We get back to the
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: facility and I'm sitting in the facility in my office
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: and Eddie walks in then sits down and what are
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: you doing? Man, I thought, you're he's on your way
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: to Why not going? I can't go, No, Eddie, you're
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: not going to the Pro Bowl. And he goes, He goes, no, man,
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: I'm just not into it. I don't want to go.
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: I can't go. I go, Eddie, way wait, wait, wait,
• 51:37
  Speaker 2: wit you're voted to the Pro Bowl by your peers,
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: by the fans. By this, you need to go to
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: the Pro Bowl. You need to have a freaking peanut
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: Colada and practice, you know, and you've never done that
• 51:47
  Speaker 2: in your life. That's why you can do that. You
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: can have a cocktail and go practice and stuff. And
• 51:51
  Speaker 2: and he goes, no, man, I go Eddie, what's up?
• 51:53
  Speaker 2: He goes, I want to start on next year right now?
• 51:57
  Speaker 2: He want to go to Pro Bowl. But that gives
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: you the mindset of that team, and it was cool.
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: ExpressVPN Okay, so we all know ExpressVPN protect your privacy
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: and security online.
• 52:10
  Speaker 2: But here's something you might you might not know.
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: You can only use ExpressVPN to unlike movies and shows
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: that are only available in the other countries. Now that
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: so many of us are stuck at home quarantine life,
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: it's only a matter of time until you run off
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: stuff to watch on Netflix. I'm geting to the end myself.
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: So this whole week I've been using ExpressVPN to binge
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: Doctor Who on UK Netflix on London Netflix.
• 52:34
  Speaker 2: It's so simple to do.
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: You just fire up your ExpressVPN app, change your location
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: to the UK, refresh Netflix, and that's it. ExpressVPN hyde
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: your IP address. Unless you control where you want sites
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: to think you're located. You can choose from almost one
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: hundred different countries. So just think about all the Netflix
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: and chilling libraries you can go through. But if you're
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: alone quarantine, it's just going to be you and Netflix
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: going through these libraries. You love anime, Use ExpressVPN to
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: access Japanese Netflix and be spirited away. ExpressVPN works with
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: any streaming service, so Hulu, BBC, iPlayer, YouTube, you name it,
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: they got it. There are hundreds of VPNs out there.
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: But the reason I use ExpressVPN to watch shows is
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: because it's ridiculously fast. There's no buffering time, there's no lag,
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: there's no bullshit, So you can stream an HD without
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: without a care in the world, dude. ExpressVPN is also
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: compatible with all your devices, phones, media consoles, smart TVs,
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: and more so you can watch what you want on
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: a personal device or the big screen wherever you are.
• 53:35
  Speaker 4: However you're doing this quarantine thing. If you visit the
• 53:38
  Speaker 4: special link right.
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: Now ExpressVPN dot com slash busting, you can get an
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: extra three months of ExpressVPN for free.
• 53:46
  Speaker 4: Let me fucking say that again.
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: You can get an extra three months of Express VPN
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: for free at ExpressVPN dot com slash busting. Support the show,
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: watch what you want and protect yourself with Express v
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: pn dot com slash busting.
• 54:02
  Speaker 2: Now back to this Banger Fisher episode. So then we
• 54:05
  Speaker 2: come back the next year and have a better team,
• 54:07
  Speaker 2: and then it was not a good ending this season.
• 54:11
  Speaker 2: We lost the Ravens and they didn't get a first
• 54:13
  Speaker 2: down in the second in the second half, and you know,
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: we blocked two punts in the game. We had to
• 54:19
  Speaker 2: we come back the two thousand Titans I think were
• 54:22
  Speaker 2: better than the ninety nine Titans, and we had the
• 54:26
  Speaker 2: week off, we had home field too out and we
• 54:28
  Speaker 2: blocked two punts in the game. Both of them went
• 54:31
  Speaker 2: as a special team of both of them went sideways
• 54:33
  Speaker 2: out of bounds. Fuck.
• 54:35
  Speaker 4: And usually when you block one, like the scoring or
• 54:38
  Speaker 4: what blull.
• 54:38
  Speaker 2: Boom out of bounce. Chris Colmen blocked them both and
• 54:41
  Speaker 2: then I don't think they got a first down second
• 54:43
  Speaker 2: half and Eddie Eddie took his eye off a check down,
• 54:45
  Speaker 2: the ball bounced off her shoulder right was caught it
• 54:47
  Speaker 2: running for a touchdow Oh yeah, but anyway it was
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: it was a really really thanks to letting me share.
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: It was really cool run. Oh yeah, for sure.
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: We had a kittle on the other day and Taylor
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: asked the question, would you have rather well, was it
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: not make the playoffs?
• 54:59
  Speaker 2: You would you rather go to the super Bowl and
• 55:01
  Speaker 2: lose or not make the playoffs at all?
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: Emotionally not like Okay, it's gonna send you for next year,
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: and he said he said, did he kind of dance
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: around the question.
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: Soon to ask you question. It's I don't know.
• 55:19
  Speaker 3: Going to the Super Bowl is an experience of its own.
• 55:22
  Speaker 3: Like you said, very few people get to like if
• 55:24
  Speaker 3: you even if you're a guy that's bounced around for
• 55:27
  Speaker 3: eight years, but you've been to the super Bowl, like
• 55:29
  Speaker 3: that guy's he's got something you can learn from and
• 55:32
  Speaker 3: so that's definitely an experience. I think it's different for
• 55:35
  Speaker 3: guys like would you rather like go to the divisional
• 55:37
  Speaker 3: round or not go to the playoffs at all. Like
• 55:39
  Speaker 3: for me, it's like, well, I mean it's I mean,
• 55:42
  Speaker 3: it's good because it's good for the community, it's good
• 55:44
  Speaker 3: for the city and stuff like that, and you want
• 55:45
  Speaker 3: to make the playoffs. But a lot of guys would
• 55:46
  Speaker 3: sit there and say, you know, you're taking two bigs
• 55:49
  Speaker 3: vacation away from me, you know what I'm saying. And
• 55:51
  Speaker 3: the pay is not the same.
• 55:52
  Speaker 4: Emotionally what I mean, what would you go super Bowl
• 55:55
  Speaker 4: and lose or not make the playoffs?
• 55:57
  Speaker 2: Oh? No, you go to super Bowl and lose? Yeah, yeah,
• 56:00
  Speaker 2: you have to go. Yeah, I mean you're when all
• 56:03
  Speaker 2: the dust settles, man, and you're you've retired in ten
• 56:06
  Speaker 2: years or whatever after that's what you think about. You
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: got to go playing about that run. There's something that
• 56:14
  Speaker 2: can never take away from you as you got to
• 56:16
  Speaker 2: play in the super Bowl, you know, and then to
• 56:18
  Speaker 2: win a super Bowl and then to one. You know,
• 56:19
  Speaker 2: it's like I'm real close with Chris Long and you know, Chris,
• 56:23
  Speaker 2: you know, never would have thought you'd go to New
• 56:25
  Speaker 2: England and do it and then come back and next
• 56:28
  Speaker 2: year and got Philly and England doing it, yeah, and
• 56:32
  Speaker 2: it's just she was just yeah. But side notes, Chris,
• 56:37
  Speaker 2: most funny ever had was playing with us at the Rams.
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: But speaking of having most fun we've had somebody sitting
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: out in the parking lot the whole time while he's
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: been on here.
• 56:44
  Speaker 2: Who's that dB? Oh yeah, it's them to come crashing
• 56:48
  Speaker 2: pie and come say what's up to coach? Yeah, tell
• 56:49
  Speaker 2: them to come by.
• 56:50
  Speaker 4: You want to go back out bring him the back
• 56:53
  Speaker 4: just so we don't so, I mean.
• 56:56
  Speaker 2: I feel like we can have you one stories.
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: Speaking of the ego thing, you're like, oh, you don't
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: see like this type of guy. I have a I
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: have an ego story about Coach Fisher when he was
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: on the Rams.
• 57:05
  Speaker 2: When he picked two of her all at the Great Robinson.
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: No, no, no, we'll talk about that too, but uh,
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: it was the trade with RG and then they came.
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: This was my second year and I had just like
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: I was on. I was basically like you know, special
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: teams backup all year and then I think Perry Rayler
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: or one of our linebackers got hurt. And at the
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: end of the year I got to start like three
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: games in the row, and one of my starts was
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: against the Rams and shout out the boy I had
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: like fifteen tackles. I was like so stoked with my
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: dad afterwards.
• 57:35
  Speaker 4: But anyway, he comes out and we the Redskins had
• 57:38
  Speaker 4: traded away, like how many picks for r G.
• 57:41
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm talking about? How many picks? Was it? Well,
• 57:44
  Speaker 2: they gave up, we give up the number they give
• 57:46
  Speaker 2: up the number of picks two ones, two and one. Okay,
• 57:50
  Speaker 2: all these picks right for Well, that's how we built
• 57:53
  Speaker 2: the Rams. Yeah, yeah, yeah, he says.
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: He trolls this by sending all the picks they traded
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: because RG wasn't working out that year for the Redskins.
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: That was kind of when he was on his outs
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: with the Redskins. And he sends all the picks out
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: to the middle of the field as captains, all the
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: picks that they drafted that they sent him out as captains.
• 58:15
  Speaker 2: See, you guys didn't know that until it was over,
• 58:18
  Speaker 2: did you? Because that's what I was I was told
• 58:20
  Speaker 2: because because Daniel Snyder and Bruce Allen, none of those
• 58:23
  Speaker 2: guys knew until after ye And it was cool, And
• 58:28
  Speaker 2: I'm on, I take credit for things, and then I
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: give credit where credit is due and Chris Long came
• 58:34
  Speaker 2: to me, you know, after or before warm ups or
• 58:37
  Speaker 2: after warm ups, and said, hey, dude, he goes, do
• 58:39
  Speaker 2: you ever think about sending all the all the guys
• 58:41
  Speaker 2: we got from n r G three trade out his
• 58:43
  Speaker 2: captains to go. That's the hell of an idea that
• 58:45
  Speaker 2: Chris Chris shout. So I go, I'm going through the
• 58:51
  Speaker 2: locker room. You know he wasn't, So no, I got
• 58:53
  Speaker 2: to go. I gotta make it here, like I got
• 58:55
  Speaker 2: to make a phone call and uh and uh, and
• 58:59
  Speaker 2: I find out who's on the roster and who was
• 59:01
  Speaker 2: still there and active. So I sent the guys out
• 59:04
  Speaker 2: for the coun That's awesome. But I had to tell
• 59:06
  Speaker 2: a Rider after the game. I think that do we
• 59:09
  Speaker 2: shut you guys out that game? Maybe because we had
• 59:13
  Speaker 2: I was still to be out there playing. Yeah, let's go.
• 59:16
  Speaker 2: We had back to back shutouts when I was in
• 59:18
  Speaker 2: Saint Louis search that up and we shut the RAG.
• 59:22
  Speaker 2: I think we shut the Raiders out at home in
• 59:25
  Speaker 2: Saint Louis and then we.
• 59:26
  Speaker 4: Went there and it might have been like twenty three nothing, But.
• 59:30
  Speaker 2: Anyway, I had back to back shutouts, which is pretty
• 59:32
  Speaker 2: hard to do. Yeah, but yeah, so yeah, so I did. Yeah,
• 59:35
  Speaker 2: we did that. We sent all the guys out there
• 59:37
  Speaker 2: and it was fun. I mean, I think Daniel loved it.
• 59:39
  Speaker 2: He he you know, he loved he loves that stuff. Yeah,
• 59:42
  Speaker 2: so it was just kind of the stuff that we
• 59:44
  Speaker 2: used to do back then. It was kind of cool.
• 59:45
  Speaker 3: So you brief, you really imagine something telling that story.
• 59:48
  Speaker 3: And I'll Rich Rodriguez was my first coach at the
• 59:51
  Speaker 3: University of Michigan when I first got there, and then
• 59:54
  Speaker 3: he gets he got fired, and then the coach that
• 59:56
  Speaker 3: came in.
• 59:57
  Speaker 2: Was Bretty Hope and the first year Brady Hook was there.
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 3: We went to the Sugar Bowl and they asked which
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 3: Rodorriguez about it, and he's like, he said, it's like
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 3: making all the ingredients for a cake and then he
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 3: let some other guy put it in the oven. Right,
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 3: And so you said something about putting the Rams together?
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 3: Does that when you watch the Rams go on the run?
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 3: They did not this past year, but the two years
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 3: before that. Is there a sense of pride or disappointment
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 3: that you weren't there or anything like that.
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 2: Well, it's a great question. I thank you. You welcome question. Yeah,
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 2: answer it, so thank you. You know, it was. Obviously
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 2: it's disappointing, but I've been in the league long enough,
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 2: and I was so fortunate to have been a head
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 2: coach for twenty years, and at some point you're going
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 2: to get fired, and so you know, you roll the
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 2: dice the longer you're in it. And so I worked
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 2: really really hard to put that roster together and knew
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 2: that we were very close and had just drafted Jai
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 2: and Ya and I played Jared the last four games
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 2: not even thinking, not even concerned about I didn't care
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 2: about myself. All I wanted to do was make a
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 2: commitment to the owner, build a team as best I could,
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 2: and put the right group of players together and and
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 2: sustain it. Yeah, okay, you can put players together now
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 2: for a year, but but the challenge is sustaining things.
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 2: And so I felt like we were building with the
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 2: trades and this, and then that we traded obviously to
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 2: you guys with John uh and got Jared, trade up,
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 2: got Jared, and we were moving the right and then
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 2: it didn't didn't happen. So but I knew what was there,
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 2: and I knew that they were gonna they were gonna
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 2: be really good. So you asked your question. Yeah, I
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 2: was happy for them. I'm happy for the players and
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 2: happy for most of the staff. I mean, in this world,
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 2: that's you learn about forgetting, for forgiveness and you know,
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 2: and stuff, but rejection sometimes trump's forgiveness and you know,
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 2: so you're you're gonna be or whatever it is. But
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 2: I was really happy for the guys and it didn't
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 2: surprise me that they got there. The concern I have
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 2: and the concern that they should have, is sustaining. I
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 2: don't think and I'll say this to the to whoever's
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 2: making decisions there, I don't think they made the right
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 2: decisions over the last couple of years to sustain. Yeah,
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 2: and that's I think you'll see that over the next
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 2: couple of years.
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 3: Well, there's a lot of things you can do to
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 3: sustain I think just my agency m c A and
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 3: they're the best agency.
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 2: Shout to sea. They're they're unbelievable. And they have guys
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 2: that used to do cap.
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 3: Stuff for other teams with gams for the teams that
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 3: now work with them and kind of work on negotiations
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 3: on the other side. And they say that one thing
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 3: that the Philadelphia Eagles do really well is they set
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 3: up guys contracts to where like if you if you're
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 3: you know, your CAP's not that great, you can convert
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 3: into signing boats and then that saves you x amount
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 3: of cap dollars and they got mixed minimum that year.
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 3: And so there's a lot of ways around, like the
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 3: salary cap to make sure you can sustain those.
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 2: Guys on the team. And there's two. There's you have two.
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 2: You have two ways of building. Your team wants to draft,
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 2: the others through free agency, and you have to use both.
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 2: And the draft is you guys, hear this. So everybody
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 2: makes draft mistakes. I mean, yes, we made a mistake. Yeah,
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 2: we'll talk about that, Okay, you know, but that those
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 2: things happen, but you have to have a plan and
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 2: you have to be able to look ahead two or
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 2: three years. And now things are going to get all
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 2: kicked out of whack because of a current an injury
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 2: or some kind of problem or something like that or
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 2: somebody did. But if you have a plan, buy and large,
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 2: you can you can plug things in and make adjustments
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 2: in here and stay competitive, you know, and you know
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 2: I see that with John Robinson and you guys, I
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 2: mean I was so jacked for you guys. I mean
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 2: I came to this. I came to the Indianapolis game
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 2: early September. I don't think your point. And that was
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 2: the loss. And that was when they we retired Steve
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 2: and Eddie's jersey, and I just there was something missing,
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 2: you know, But we'll realized what it was, what what
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 2: was missing and what they went to and and I'm
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 2: not talking about Marcus per Se, but I'm talking about
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 2: just you guys rocking forward a little bit and running
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 2: the football. It's a big two. And which is a
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 2: question I have is what's he like in the huntle
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 2: What what is he? What's what's he like in the hunt?
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 2: Derek is studd He's a complete study. What Derek is
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 2: very happy, go lucky during the week, and he's especially
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 2: if it has a good game. You can tell he's
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 2: got a smile on his face. But when it comes
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 2: to games like we'll have a couple I bring up
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 2: there's a play action play that we have. Then I
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 2: have to I'm going out to the end, but and
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 2: we're all kind of running to the left and then
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 2: we set up so the quarterback can set up. But
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 2: I have to help the guard at first and Dixon
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 2: was having outside So if ever in a time out
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 2: in that play is called, I'm always like, hey, Derek,
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 2: you make sure and he's like, listen, I fucking got it.
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 2: Like he is.
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 3: He is so locked in, will not smile, has an
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 3: attitude about him. He'll run the ball for four The
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 3: best way to describe Derek is the last game of
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 3: the season, there really wasn't a thought of, like, let's
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 3: get the rushing title because there were so many yards
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 3: to get. But he goes in the first half of
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 3: the game he had sixty three yards rushing, which is
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 3: not bad at all. I mean, you double that, yere
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 3: one hundred and twenty six yards. That's a good game,
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 3: Thank you very much. I'm on a roll today and
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 3: we get a halftime, he's fucking pissed. He's like, what
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 3: can we do better? Like, if you guys just get
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 3: this block, I swear to God, I'll get through. And
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 3: he's got that from what I've heard about Eddie George
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 3: when he was there, He's got that mentality that he
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 3: knows he can change a game whenever he has the
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 3: ball in his hands, and he absolutely can't. He's got
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 3: the breakaway speed, not the first guy I can ever
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 3: tackle him. I'm very impressed with him and how he
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 3: holds himself in a game because he's never too high
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 3: and too low. It's always stay right on course and basically,
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 3: fuck you, you're not going to tackle me right.
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 2: And that's exactly how he's impressive. That's how how Eddie was.
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 2: I mean, I remember, you know, I got so many memories.
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 2: But you know, we're inside it two minutes and it's
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 2: third and seven and we get the first down. We
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 2: kneeled games over, you know, and Jacksonville used our last
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 2: time out, and here we go. When we're standing a sideline,
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 2: I go, hey, look, I'm Eddie and Steve are standing
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 2: looking at I. I got options. You can put it
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 2: on your hip and get what you can, you know,
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 2: and get down think thing rolling and we'll pull it away,
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 2: or you know, I can give it to you. He
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 2: goes give it to me, and he looks across. He
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 2: goes third and seven. He goes, I got you ten.
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 2: You're good with that? He goes, yep, you got ten.
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 2: But and so the one thing I mean, and if
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 2: I got any messages that you could take back to
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 2: Derek is man spend as much time as you can
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 2: with that, with that big boy two seven, because Eddie
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 2: understood what it took in the off season, he got it.
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 2: He was way ahead of his time time, you know.
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 2: And it was I mean, he and the great ones
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 2: do that. The Jerry Rice's and all the ones that
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 2: I've been fortunate to be around, understand that as you
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 2: get older, you have to work harder just to maintain,
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 2: not to get not to to get better, just to maintain. Now,
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 2: if you want to get better, then you got to
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 2: work even harder. And that's how Eddie was. I mean,
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 2: Eddie had that relentless thing. I'll take you back. We
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 2: opened our inaugural season in Tennessee was in Memphis against
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 2: the Oakland Raiders in Memphis, Tennessee early September, and we
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 2: won an overtime game and Eddie had over two hundred
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 2: yards rushing and he went and got ivy at end
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 2: of regulation, came back out and we pounded them in
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 2: a ninety five one hundred degree day in Memphis, and
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 2: the Raiders wilted because they had just come off a
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 2: training camp in Napa. Yeah, okay, And we knew that,
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 2: we knew it was in our favor. Okay, so Eddie's
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 2: got two hundred and eleven or two hundred and twenty,
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 2: whatever the whatever it is in Memphis. On Sunday we
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 2: come back to Bellevue. I'm looking out of my trailer
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 2: window and Eddie's running freaking hundreds the day after. That's
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 2: that definitely, that sounds They have a lot of similar
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 2: and that's that's the difference. And that's what And you know,
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 2: some people need to be told that, and some people
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 2: figure it out and get it on their figure it
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 2: on their own. But that's where that's where if Derek
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 2: wants to be the guy that which he is now,
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 2: I mean, I'm just you know, yeah, you know, I
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 2: was a dB in the league tackling that dude, that's like,
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 2: that's like freaking bouncing your forehead off of frozen truck bumper.
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 2: You know, not fun. And that's what you guys build
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 2: around that ship. It's old school and and no one
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 2: in the on any of you.
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 3: I think I think Derek, I mean definitely, Derek was
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 3: easily arguably the top running back this year, the most
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 3: yards I think with running backs always sustaining, how many
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 3: years can you do that? Because people say that to
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 3: me you only have so many carries in you. And
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 3: one thing I noticed about Derek is he doesn't really
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 3: get tired. He doesn't he genetics or whatever it is.
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 3: He works his ass off, but he's one of those
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 3: guys that he's not the best. He's pissed off about it.
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 3: And so he's he's definitely a great teammate and he's
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 3: he's awesome to be around. He sat in that same
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 3: chair he was here. We had him on what four
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 3: or five weeks ago, four or five weeks ago, and
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 3: he was sitting there and he had a conversation with Eddie.
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 3: When he first he got he was a starter, and
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 3: then he ended up being benched for Dion and these
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 3: his words, not mine, but did happen. And he said
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 3: he told Eddie and he talked to him, and Eddie
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 3: was straightforward with him and said, you're not running hard enough.
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 3: You're you're not like it doesn't seem like you want it,
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 3: or I'm sure trying to do too much, those types.
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 2: Of you're trying to be a two hundred pound back.
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah, right, be what you already use your strengths and
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 3: then you that you will go to the distance. And
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 3: he's done that since then. But Eddie's so locked into
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 3: this community and he's so locked over the Titans because
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 3: I had a similar situation where he went on radio
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 3: and he said, well, I don't you know something along
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 3: the lines of, I don't think Taylor is viewed as
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 3: a as a leader on the on the Titans locker room,
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 3: and nationally, I don't think he's viewed as a leader.
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 3: And I called him because you know, if someone's going
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 3: to say that, I want to know what's your reasoning,
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 3: because I'm I'm not going to fight a guy over
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 3: I want to know the situation. Yeah, And so I
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 3: call him and I figured he'd get defensive and well
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 3: I didn't say that or this, and he's like, yeah,
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 3: I said that, I said, I said.
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 2: He said that.
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 3: There's when he sees me doing certain things, it's not leadership.
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 3: If I'm trying to do too much during a game,
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 3: it's not leadership.
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 2: And I have as long as.
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 3: I'm affecting the guy to my right and to my left,
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 3: my left guard and my tight end, that's all you
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 3: need to do is leadership.
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 2: And you're not doing that. You came back trying to
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 2: do too much. And after I had that talk, with him.
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 3: I did exactly what he said. And I'm not saying
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 3: I've helped the Titans immensely, but it helped me. It
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 3: helped my game, It helped me with Roger, it helped
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 3: me with the tight ends, doing triple blocks, trade blocks,
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 3: those types of things. So it's he's done a great
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 3: job for the Titans, just on the outside, being able
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 3: to talk to a few guys.
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 2: And I, you know, I appreciate it. Help him. He
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 2: got to sit there and through the prime of his career,
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 2: he got to run behind Bruce Matthews stud Yeah, and
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 2: Bruce was really quiet, and Bruce wasn't the vocal guy. Bruce.
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 2: Bruce was tremendous athlete. He started every position on the
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 2: offensive line and made the Pro Bowl at every position.
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 2: He's in the Hall of Fame, you know all that stuff. Yeah,
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 2: and Bruce was just he was just quiet about his
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 2: job and his competitive Bruce would Bruce would stay out
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 2: after Projice or before project, get out there early and
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 2: play whatever freaking competitive game, whether it was spinning footballs
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 2: or what it is. He was always competing at something.
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 2: But those are the guys that that Eddie kind of
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 2: got was was raised now Eddie. You know, obviously the
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 2: House State experience and and all that and everything associated
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 2: with the difficulties and what you know, the thing, the
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 2: hard times that we went through made Eddie Georgia man,
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 2: you know, and sooner he was he always was. But
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, Yeah, Eddie just got it.
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 2: You have to grow up. And he you know, Eddie
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 2: would you know, And Eddie was even even early on, Eddie,
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 2: Eddie get mad and he wanted to talk to the
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 2: team and you know because somebody was late, and you know,
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 2: he just bitching the meeting about his teammates. And then
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 2: then the very next team meeting, Eddie was late.
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 2: I mean, so it sounds a little bit like myself. Yeah,
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 2: he figures it out over time. But but man, I
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 2: mean lead by example is what he was about.
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 1: Absolutely, Yeah, it was cool, speaking of mainly ship built
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 1: bar listen. Protein reduces appetite and hunger levels while increasing
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 1: muscle mass and strength. Studies show that protein is by
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 1: far the most filling of the three macro nutrients. If
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 1: you don't know what the macro nutrients are, there's three
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 1: of them. Like I just said, fat, carbs, and protein.
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 1: Listen here's my personal experience where quarantines right now, these
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 1: box of built bars in they go phenomenal for snacking.
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 1: I eat my built bar, I eat my built bars,
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 1: built bars at home now to get me through the day.
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 1: But if you're on the go, when we're back on
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 1: the go and now this quarantine shit, this will be
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 1: easy to have in your car, all that fun stuff.
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 1: Bill Bar is the fastest growing protein bar in the world.
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 1: They innovated the perfect protein bar that tastes amazing. Because
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 1: again we all try to eat healthy and maintain a
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 1: healthy lifestyle on the going, it is very hard doing that.
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 1: It's a great taste of protein bar that has historically
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 1: been an oxymoron. You get a lot of the chalky shit,
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 1: the dry you go into gas, they should try to
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 1: find one.
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 2: There's not a whole lot of.
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 1: You think there's good flavor in a couple, but there's
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 1: really not. Bill Barr changed all that with a protein
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 1: bar that gitimately taste like a candybar. So picture a
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 1: nice little candy bar with a lot of protein in it,
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 1: and you're gonna have there's a variety of flavors, unlike
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 1: the traditional ones you see chocolate. You know, they got
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 1: the creamy texture. It's it really is. It's phenomenal. Every
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 1: day is a cheat day with a built bar. P
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 1: these allegedly no protein bar that tastes this good should
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 1: have macros of fifteen grams of protein, only one hundred
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 1: and ten calories, four grams of sugar, and six grams
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 1: of fiber.
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 2: That's big time. Fiber is a big player in the game.
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 2: Look it up.
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 1: Bill Bar is offering my is offering the listeners, all
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 1: the wolves and pups out there, twenty percent off your
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 1: first purchase. Go to bilbar dot com and enter the
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 1: promo code bussing at checkout to receive twenty percent off
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 1: your first order. That is b U I L T
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 1: B A R dot com and use promo code busting
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 1: one taste.
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 2: And you'll be hooked. Can you talk? What were you
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 2: gonna say? No? I just said he was and then
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 2: and then and we we ran the football here, you know,
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 2: and then that's people go, you know, really, I go, yeah, okay,
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 2: we had I had two one hundred yard backs at
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 2: Kansas City in the same game. Okay, at Lyndell White
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 2: and Chris Johnson had one hundred yards. Each of them
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 2: had over one hundred yards. And we came back the
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 2: next week here and played Cleveland, and they both again
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 2: had one hundred yards, except I screwed it up because
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 2: I got pissed at the head coach because he called
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 2: the game was out of reach over and he called
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 2: a time out. Uh. And then he called another time
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 2: out and they granted him back to back town outs,
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 2: and I was pissed at the officials. I was pissed
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 2: at him because the game was over. I said, screwed.
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 2: I sent goal line in there and Logot knocked for
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 2: a yard or Lindell got knocked for a yard loss
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 2: and ended up with ninety nine yards, or I would
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 2: have had we would have had back to back games
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 2: where we had two one hundred yard rushers had it
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 2: not been for the decision I made to go to
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 2: just pound it in there. Yeah, but I mean that's
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 2: we ran the football. I mean, that's what we were
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 2: we were about, and Eddie was really the one that
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 2: set that whole set that ball rolling for us.
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 3: There's definitely a place for that in the league still,
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 3: as much as people throw the ball around. If you
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 3: have a dominant run game, it sets up all that passing.
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean shit, look at you guys, look at
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 1: the Ravens. Yeah, the forty nine ers who only threw
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 1: the ball like eight times and eleven and champions playoff
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 1: run until the Super Bowl. But yeah, that's insane. I
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 1: remember I would be in the front yard. Was I
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 1: was a running back myself, back in youth football, and
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 1: I was I would always like pretend to be Eddie George.
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 1: Would you really Yeah, because I was like taller. I was,
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 1: like I tell you all the time, I like peaked
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 1: in high school. My prime was like youth ball, like
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 1: just dominated, just dominated offensively.
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 2: Stun Yeah, but I would always pretend to be Eddie George.
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 2: We got how much time I have? But I do,
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 2: I do want to catch on a couple of things.
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 1: Hang on, can you what was what was like a
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 1: muddier transition the Houston to Tennessee or Saint Louis, LA.
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 1: Because I grew up in Missouri, so me, I heard
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 1: a lot more like I would always be around more
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 1: with everybody being pissed off that when you guys went
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 1: to LA, everybody was.
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's just anytime you pick up and move,
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 2: the people that are affected the most of the fan base, right,
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 2: and that's just not fair to fans. So you know,
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 2: you gotta you know, you got to handle it as
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 2: best you can. And you know, as a head coach,
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 2: I'm not making those decisions. I'm doing what I'm told
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 2: and I got to make the most out of a move.
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 2: Now they're hard, it's it's hard, you know. I give
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 2: an example when San Diego moved to LA and had
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 2: a two hour drive. They started off on four and
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 2: and Philip was driving, commuting in the car. You know,
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 2: you move. We moved three times in on off season.
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 2: You know, we had no play in LA. When we
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 2: left Saint Louis, I went to LA. We moved into
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 2: a Marriotte Residence inn in Auxnard and that's where we
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 2: had our off season program. We lived in a hotel.
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 2: And then when off season program was over, when you're
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 2: done with your last o t A and you have
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 2: that summer break, you know, they had no place to
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 2: train or live. And then they they showed up to
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 2: training camp, you know, to hour south and you see
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 2: Irvine and then then you go and then you were
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 2: hoping that your temporary facility trailers again is done so
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 2: you can have a place to practice, so you know,
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 2: all those things are unsettling now, especially La was different
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 2: than here. I can't say which one was harder. You know,
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 2: this was different. I mean I had a player come
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 2: up to me and go, so we're checking these report
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 2: to TSU for training camp. And back then they gave
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 2: him eight hundred number and said, hey, call the eight
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 2: hundred number. The mover will move your stuff. Make sure
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 2: you're there in time for training camp wars training camp.
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 2: Well it's a TSU warsor facility, I don't know yet.
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 2: So it he comes up, he goes, yeah, my my
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 2: my suv got there, but I can't find my Mercedes.
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 2: And my suv got there with you know, nine or
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 2: ten or one thousand miles more on it. They drove
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 2: it and they told me they're shipping. They can't they
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 2: don't know where my car is. So you got those
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 2: little things, you know, they all add up. But you know,
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 2: the La thing was the La thing was an easy, uh,
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 2: just particularly because of all the movie and then the
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 2: commuting and then you know you're you're on the road.
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 2: And in that particular year I was there. We we
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 2: played in Detroit, in New England, in New York, in
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 2: London at New Orleans. So so and we went we
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 2: went from yeah, we went from we we we left
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 2: l A, went to Detroit, went upstairs, lost a close game,
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 2: went upstairs, had a meal, went downstairs, went to the airport,
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 2: and flew to London. You know, so those things are
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 2: you know, those things aren't easy. But that London trip
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 2: in general is very hard. Oh yeah, yeah it is.
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 1: Raiders played at in Mexico at London. We played in
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 1: New York like they were they had flown everywhere.
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you're going to You got no choice. Same
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 2: with Seattle, and and so you have to you have
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 2: to adjust. And obviously there's you know, we I feel
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 2: like we did a really good job of justin I mean,
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 2: the bottom line is this, I mean, and I think
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 2: Mike very Bull is all about that. And he puts
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 2: himself in your shoes, and every decision that he makes
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 2: from six o'clock in the morning till whatever time in
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 2: the evening you leave, he's all about what you do
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 2: and how can he help that that whole process and
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 2: whether it's recovery, whether it's this or that. And so
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 2: you know, we did sleep studies, and we did all
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 2: kinds of different things and just innovative things. I mean,
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 2: I even my last two years there, I believe or not.
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 2: You know, Monday was a recovery day. Our player's day
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 2: off was Thursday, really really yeah, and oh yeah, but
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 2: Monday's all recovery, okay, because if you're covering kicks and
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 2: you're playing, you're going to play thirty plays in the game,
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 2: and you're started, and you guys hand the ball off
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 2: thirty five times, you played seventy plays, okay, and the
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 2: practice squad guy over here didn't play and he had practice.
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 2: It's Friday, Okay. If I throw the three of you
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 2: guys in on Monday into the weight room and you
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 2: guys got the same stuff to do, that's wrong. Your
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 2: needs are different than his needs, and your needs are
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 2: You may just need a massage period and fluids, you know,
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 2: and the normatech and whatever. That might be your Monday,
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 2: you know. But by Tuesday we kind of got everybody back.
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 2: So Tuesday was kind of install based stuff. Wednesday was good.
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 2: Thursdays off, man, would you like to sleep in? And
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 2: then anybody ever tell you about my sleep in thursdays?
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 2: I've heard a couple of we got a couple of stories.
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 4: You gotta tell the Darren base that you gotta tell
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 4: the story too.
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, late, no, I will. It happened here, and it
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 2: was Kevin. We had Kevin May, I had Kevin White center,
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 2: and you know, we were we had a physical stretch,
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 2: and I just felt like we just needed something different.
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 2: And so Wednesday after practice, I called a team meeting.
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 2: Well you know what happened That never happens, right, Yeah,
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 2: Wednesday after practice, guys are going, oh ship, who fucked? Yeah?
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 2: This bullshit? And I got up and I just said, hey, look,
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 2: I said, when you go, we're gonna finish up. Whatever
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 2: you're gonna do. You watch Tate, watch practice, get your work,
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 2: whatever you're going to do. When you go home, before
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 2: you go to bed, turn your alarm clocks off, turn
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 2: your phone off. I want you to sleep in the
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 2: morning and sleep as long as you can. Now, I said,
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 2: that's no, that's not a pass to go freaking tear
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 2: the town down tonight, because I'm going to go out
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 2: look for you. Make sure you're not freaking in wherever
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 2: in the bars. But the point is is sleep in,
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 2: don't take the kids to school, don't get up early,
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 2: don't do anything for mama. You need the rest and
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 2: come in around noon. I don't give a shit when
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 2: you come in, but just try to be in by
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 2: noon or pull thirty. And I saw Kevin the hall
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 2: around ten o'clock and Kevin goes, Jeff. That's the best
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 2: thing that's ever happened in my whole career fourteen years
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 2: was to be able to sleep in sleep in on
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 2: a Thursday in November, and so sleep in Thursdays took
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 2: on a whole life of their own right, and now
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 2: it's you know, you know how you guys are after
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 2: a big win Sunday afternoon dream Monday and Thursdays.
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it motivates you a weird way to like, you know, hey,
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 1: we're going to get to sleep in Thursday.
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 2: Boy. Yeah. In the fourth I went, I went to
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 2: Thursday day off, Thursday totally day off. Yeah, so Monday's recovery. Okay,
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 2: Tuesday we're going to get your blood going to move around,
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 2: get your sore on us out and do all that
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 2: kind of stuff. And it's all based half speed practice,
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 2: just a little bit more than to walk through. Wednesday
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 2: we're going to go, you know, and then Thursday's your
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 2: day and then come back in Friday Fast Friday.
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 3: We never did a sleep in Thursday with but Rabel
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 3: does towards the end of the season. He does a
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 3: really good job of knowing where the guy's bodies are
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 3: at and knowing what it takes. Now in this league,
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 3: because a lot of guys, a lot of coaches will
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 3: play in the eighties, play in the nineties. They'll come
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 3: and coming, coach, well, this is what we did. Yeah, well,
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 3: there's been a lot of advancements in modern science.
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 2: Let's let's let's take us So. Yeah, so sleep and
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 2: diet and just all those things are so important, but
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 2: just the rest and recovery, you know, but that that
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 2: you that starts, you should start that. I mean I
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 2: always had this philosophy, partticularly because I played. I wasn't
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 2: very good, but I played five years in the league,
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 2: and I remember the day the calendar year. And I'll
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 2: ask both of you guys, what day in the calendar
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 2: year did you feel the absolute best, meaning physically in shape,
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 2: ready to freaking go. And your answer is probably the
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 2: day before training Yeah, so what happens in training camp?
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 2: You do this right, right, okay, and then you never
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 2: get it back. Training camp should be up and then
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 2: it should be and then you you know, and then
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 2: the season starts. You're here.
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 4: They want to work so hard and all is just
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 4: to fucking take away everything.
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so you're training during the off season just to
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 2: get through camp, not to use camp, but just to
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 2: get through camp. Now it doesn't you know, because back
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 2: in the day when I played, there were six preseason
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 2: games and went you went to camp and you were
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 2: two days every day. Okay, even Friday. Water makes you weak, yeah, yeah,
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 2: and hundreds you run a hundred. You run hunters after practice.
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 2: Head coach tells you, get on the goal line, we're
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 2: running ten hundreds. Guess what, you went to the goal line.
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 2: You put your hand down. You freaking ran ten hundreds.
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 2: If you someone to tell you guys that, now you
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 2: start looking cross arms and go.
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 3: Really well, you'd have guys too that if you're running
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 3: hunters after every practice, yea, guys are thinking in there
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 3: head to have with your practice.
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 2: I better consistent. Yeah yeah, yeah, I want. I want.
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 2: I want you to grab grab a couple of rookies
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 2: or grab whoever you want and run on your own,
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 2: you know, And then I want to be able to
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 2: say no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. You
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 2: don't need to be running on Friday, whatever it is,
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 2: but that needs to be. That needs to be the mindset.
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 2: So you know, when you come in the morning, you
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 2: you park in the parking lot, you're run in because
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 2: you can't wait to get to work. You look forward
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 2: to getting to work, okay. And then I believe that
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 2: our job is to make sure that when when you're
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 2: there during the day, especially on the field, that you
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 2: are mentally, emotionally, physically, spiritual, what ever is ready to practice.
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 2: So that's all the ship I got, all the ship
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 2: needs to be. You need to be clear, you know.
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 2: So if that means that your mom called and she
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 2: want a different color escalade on Friday, and she wants
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 2: it now, and that's burdening you, that's a distraction, okay.
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 2: So I want a distraction free fun. Understand what we
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 2: got to get done work wise, and get it done,
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 2: and then you know, you take you go to the
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 2: next day. But so much of that and then you
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 2: have to change. You just have to be changed. And
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 2: just like you said, what Mike did, you got to change.
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 2: You got to get and have a feel and back down.
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 2: Call this period off. Do the ship and and then
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 2: and you know, while all that's going on, you gotta
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 2: have fun. Yeah, you gotta have funny. I laugh. You
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 2: gotta just just have fun and pranks and whatever because you're.
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 1: Around each other literally every day, all day, from Indo
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 1: July all the way to you know, hopefully early February.
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 2: He said, you said pranks.
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 3: I heard Steve Watterson got you pretty good when you
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 3: guys came in for preseason or was a preseason or November?
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 2: November you guys pre We only came in for a
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 2: preseason game. Yeah, so and Steve got pretty good, he
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 2: got he got back at us. Okay, no he didn't.
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 2: He didn't get us pretty good.
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 3: No, he You know, Steve, Steve take the story guy.
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 3: So I want to know what's real and what's not.
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 3: He said he'd get guys all the time. He was
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 3: the king of pranks in his.
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 2: Mind, well in his mind he was, and he also
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 2: was the target. Okay, we'll go on forever about him.
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 2: But but yeah, when we came in for the preseason game,
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 2: I had somebody, I still had some ties, and I
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 2: got uh, somebody got a hold of his car keys
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 2: and during the game removed all four of his tires,
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 2: put him on blocks and stacked the tires up. So
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 2: when he went out, when he went out to go home, yeah,
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 2: why we're playing them and yeah yeah. So he he
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 2: got everything going and got his tires back on, and
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 2: as the buses were come up, he had the guys
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 2: pull up the things so our buses couldn't get out,
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 2: and he yelled at the buses. So that was his
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 2: version of getting this. That's the center block things hilarious. No, No,
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 2: Chris long, Chris and the DB's and Saint Louis would
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 2: always happen.
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 1: You know, I heard Chris, and you can correct the
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 1: story because the building he made a building, and basically put.
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 2: He made three buildings, made three buildings. Yeah, no, they
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 2: were the story were DB's. No, we were weren't. It
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 2: was the last game of you. I think we were
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 2: in Seattle, we're coming back. We were going to land
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 2: lad and it was just right after Christmas and we
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 2: weren't in the playoffs. And Chris, they had the DB's
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 2: and the D line had been going at it for
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 2: a while and so Chris had found a contractor and
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 2: he built these. He built three just one room, four
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 2: sided with the roof buildings okay, and big enough, big
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 2: enough to put their cars in it. So he had
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 2: them built. He had the cars driven in and then
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 2: they pounded the nails and they completely was four walls
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 2: around their cars. And then he had in Christmas lights.
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 2: He had twenty one, twenty two, and maybe twenty three
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 2: the three DB's numbers on outside on the on the wall.
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 2: And and so when we pull up, there's a field
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 2: by the facility. Now keep in mind, and we've come
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 2: all the way back from Sheall. We got out the
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 2: plane as the last game and guys, are you know
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 2: really and we're getting the bus and we're pulling in
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 2: and all of a sudden that started going and you
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 2: can see all of the numbers on these three buildings.
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 2: Chris had told guys what he'd done. But the DB's
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 2: they they go in their lockers and they're going to
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 2: drive home and they can't find their keys, and they're
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 2: standing in the lobby trying to figure out where their
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 2: keys are. They don't eat, they haven't even put two
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 2: and two together that their their keys are somewhere else,
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 2: but their cars are in those three buildings on the
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 2: lock with their number all yea. So they cabbed home
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 2: and stuff like that. But yeah, they did stuff like
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 2: that all the time. Yeah, that's hilarious. That's fucking legendary.
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah that is all.
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 4: It sounds like you, uh, maybe want to get back
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 4: into coaching.
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 2: Oh you never what, I'll tell you what I missed.
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 2: I miss you, guys, I miss you. But that's what
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 2: I miss is that I missed the relationship with the
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 2: players and the all the fun and all the stuff
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 2: and you know that, and competing in the games and
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 2: then the anthem. Yeah, I'm then that's awesome. Can you
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 2: bring up We'll have like fan questions and that before
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 2: fan questions. I want to know two things because you
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 2: know what time it is, because I got to catch
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 2: a flight. It is twelve thirty two. I'm right, we
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 2: got about ten more. Yeah, okay, So two.
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 3: Things happen that we were intertwined about. One was the
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 3: twenty fourteen draft. There were two tackles stayed before me.
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 3: There was Greg Robinson and number two with you, guys,
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 3: which I want to know you the process because you
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 3: actually brought me and Greg Robinson in for at the
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 3: same time to do visits and I'm gonna sitting with
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 3: you at your office.
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 2: How was that?
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 3: What was the deciding factors in those things? And then
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 3: also after my second year, they were talking about replacing
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 3: me with Lamy Tunsel one overall pick, and you guys
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 3: ended up trading for the number one pick. And so
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 3: in a way you helped me at the end. And
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 3: I wouldn't rather be any place in Tennessee. This place
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 3: is unbelievable, right, But at the end, obviously when you're
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 3: going through the draft, you want to be the number
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 3: one tackle. You wanted to number an overall pick like
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 3: all that stuff. End up being the third tackle, taking
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 3: eleventh overall. So what were the things you saw in
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 3: Greg in his game at the time that you didn't
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 3: see in my game?
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 2: Didn't see anything missing from your game none at all.
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 2: Knew that you would be a ten year vet, you know,
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 2: you would have a ten year career and you'd be
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 2: pro bowler and all that kind of stuff. That's how
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 2: he brought you in. Oftentimes there are they're good, the
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 2: hard decisions, but they're a good problem to have. Okay,
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 2: so you were slam dunk. Okay, we felt like athletic
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 2: ability wise, when I watched Greg walk on his hands
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 2: and do throw foot and do that kind of stuff.
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 2: In addition to that, they had a private workout, we'd
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 2: done the background checks. I had a son on the
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 2: roster at Auburn, it was playing at Auburn. He knew Greg,
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 2: he liked Greg, and it was just kind of I
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 2: don't want to say it came down to a flip
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 2: of a coin, but you could couldn't go wrong, you know,
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 2: and it was obviously we went wrong, you know. But
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 2: it's just kind of one of those deals. I mean,
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 2: and I want to buy the comparable standards are probably
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 2: not it's not a good analogy, but you know, four
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 2: or five years ago, my last year there, we traded
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 2: the number one and we decided between Jered Golf and
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 2: Carson Wentz. Yeah, it was a great problem to have,
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 2: you know, And so you know, it's just one of
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 2: those things. I mean, I remember our interview. I mean,
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 2: I remember we got the combine for a brief moment,
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 2: and then we had you on the visiting and you
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 2: were with Boudreaux, when you spent a lot of time
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 2: and hung around.
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 3: We loved you, sat down single, double, triple ABC, all
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 3: those things ready to go on those visits. Yeah, it
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 3: was pretty Actually it's pretty awful.
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 2: It is that it is not one problem if I
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 2: have with the league, and you remember the conversation how
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 2: many visits if you had, oh it was fourteen. Yeah,
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 2: we're going to work out. I mean, it's just like
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 2: you know, it's just travel, travel, travel travel. I came,
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 2: I came from Detroit.
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 3: I flip from Arizona, I think San Francisco to Detroit
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 3: and and too, you guys same all in the same day.
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 1: When you're wanting to be the number one linebacker taking
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 1: to the draft and there's like fifteen to twenty that
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 1: go ahead of you, what was it that you saw
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 1: on them that you probably didn't see in me?
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 2: Well, let me see who are those that were taking
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 2: a head. I have no clue.
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 1: I guess Mattha Tao was, Yeah, I don't even know.
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 1: I don't even know anymore.
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 4: That's a fun question we had, like you want to
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 4: be number one, but I ended up being number.
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 2: Three in the first round.
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 3: Eleven. I was eleven, third tackles, third tackle. It's interesting
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 3: to get the percept.
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 2: Thing, understand the understand the process too, because it all
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 2: starts with an area scout. So we had an area
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 2: scout at Michigan and we had an aero scout at
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 2: Alabama and they're both grading you guys, and they're different guys.
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 2: And then you have you have directors and assistant directors
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 2: of college scouting that graded you both independently, and so
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 2: now you've got like five different opinions on both guys. Okay,
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 2: so now after the season is over, now you start
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 2: to mesh your opinions. Now I'm looking at tape, and
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 2: then you got someone else that's the wh line coaches
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 2: looking at tape, and so you end up oftentimes was
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 2: just too much information. Yeah you know, and I fundamentally
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 2: think right now that there's not enough tape being watched.
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 2: I think people are sharing and talking and social media
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 2: grading and not doing the hard hands on sit down
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 2: and watch you play. I watch you play early, watch
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 2: you play middle, watch you play late. But more specifically,
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 2: I'm going to watch and see who the best defensive
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 2: end was because I want to see you protect and
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 2: then you know, watch I mean watch games throughout the
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 2: course of the season. Well that's how I do. But
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 2: as a head coach, you can't look at everybody. Yeah
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 2: you know, and you really can't. So you know, it's
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 2: it's it's not right. It's not my place to tell
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 2: the organization in the draft room in the fifth round
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 2: which guard I'm going to take. But I didn't seen them,
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 2: you know, and so but you have to trust people
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 2: that have seen them, and you have to trust at
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 2: your boards, right, And I just think people. I'm not
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 2: saying it's scouts, because scouts are doing the work, but
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 2: I'm saying people in decision making positions aren't. Aren't spending
• 1:35:38
  Speaker 2: the time to really truly evaluate the players. I think
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 2: they're I mean, I think they do a good job.
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 2: They got a lot of people doing it, you know,
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 2: And so I really haven't. I never used any outside
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 2: sources or never nooked at mock drafts and never did anything.
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 2: You just kind of sit there and just tell me
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 2: what are what tell me what the team's needs are, Okay,
• 1:36:02
  Speaker 2: and then I'll sit there. We'll sit there in the
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 2: draft room and based on their needs, okay, well they
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 2: could go here, they could go there, but let's make
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 2: sure our draft boards, right. Yeah, you know, I got you. So,
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 2: but you guys are kind of the process. You guys
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 2: took all.
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 4: Global Tree of the Year before me. Anyway, so it's
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 4: probably tough much for you.
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 2: I think Marcus Alec Yeah, alex Is, I think big money. Well,
• 1:36:25
  Speaker 2: we draft them, they traded them.
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 1: Well, you guys paid the big money and then traded
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 1: them that same day. It was not involved in okay,
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 1: because I remember seeing that.
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 2: I was like, what does this You're just going to
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 2: trade it? Right? How about this? Talk about this? So
• 1:36:38
  Speaker 2: which we draft, we draft treat and uh, it's a
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 2: pretty good rookie years what in shape we got there?
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 2: But he finished really strong after that last three or
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 2: four games. So you know, the all season program is gone.
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 2: So first day of the all season program starts and
• 1:36:52
  Speaker 2: all I want to do is just want to get
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 2: await I wanted. I wanted because really something you know,
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 2: you leave in January and you come back and I
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 2: just the guys are all coming in and saying hey
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 2: d D D day. We waited everybody when they got
• 1:37:05
  Speaker 2: in there. And then I get a call and coach yeah, Tree, yeah,
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 2: all right, he goes he's like thirty two pounds heavier
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 2: than when he left, and I went, oh, I go, really,
• 1:37:18
  Speaker 2: I go, you sure you're scaling? Goes? Are you? I'm
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 2: telling you that? So first meeting, so this is like
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 2: a half hour later, I have told my assistant to
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 2: I said, go to Carlos Junior, go to McDonald's, go
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 2: to burg King, go wherever, and just get shit. I
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 2: want bags. I want the bags, okay, and bring them
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 2: as fast as you can. And I said, I called
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 2: down the video. I go, hey, put a I want
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 2: a TV up on stage. I want a chair, I
• 1:37:42
  Speaker 2: want a couple of little a couple of little dumbbells,
• 1:37:45
  Speaker 2: and I want a table out there. And I don't
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 2: even care what's hooked up, but I want to. I'm mad.
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 2: And then in there and they go, what are you doing?
• 1:37:50
  Speaker 2: I said, just do it, I said, and bring me
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 2: bring me trees, jersey and a hoodie. And they go, okay.
• 1:37:56
  Speaker 2: So so we have our first meeting. Start off, he's
• 1:38:00
  Speaker 2: a program, and everybody's been gone for three months. And
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 2: everybody comes in all the gain. You know, everybody's going
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 2: for him yet to see it. Everybody's just like that.
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 2: And I come walking around the corner up on stage
• 1:38:12
  Speaker 2: and I have a hoodie, I have glasses, I have
• 1:38:15
  Speaker 2: fifty two and I have a pillow underneath my found
• 1:38:19
  Speaker 2: in this jersey. And I walk up and in addition
• 1:38:23
  Speaker 2: to that, I had cookies and chips and shit food
• 1:38:26
  Speaker 2: all over the place, and I just I walked up
• 1:38:28
  Speaker 2: and as if nobody was sitting out there, I walked
• 1:38:32
  Speaker 2: up and walked over, and I popped some chips and
• 1:38:35
  Speaker 2: you know, and then I did this, and I act
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 2: like I was eating this, and then I was going
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 2: over and guys start laughing. I walk and I'm walking
• 1:38:41
  Speaker 2: around doing this, and then I sit back and I
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 2: grabbed this, and I'm just playing some PlayStation like you know,
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 2: and you can see I'm just and so I'm acting
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 2: like I don't even know they're there, and they're just
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 2: rolling fricking laughing. And so I move around, I do this,
• 1:38:56
  Speaker 2: I walk back, I bring some more food out, sit down.
• 1:38:59
  Speaker 2: Kind of got like it's time to work out, and
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 2: so I grabbed that two pound dumbbell and I just
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 2: kind of ate and I was like getting my work
• 1:39:06
  Speaker 2: out and put it down with the sleep and then
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 2: I finished. By I finished, I had one more thing
• 1:39:12
  Speaker 2: of chips and cookies and shit, and I didn't have
• 1:39:15
  Speaker 2: a place to put them, and I just put them
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 2: on the ground. And I don't know what possessed me,
• 1:39:18
  Speaker 2: but I laid down on top of them and popped
• 1:39:21
  Speaker 2: the chips like a dog and just kind of rolled
• 1:39:23
  Speaker 2: on the food. And I got up and I said, hey,
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 2: let's have a great off season. And I walked out.
• 1:39:30
  Speaker 2: So you think he got the message. Yeah, he got
• 1:39:33
  Speaker 2: the message. And it was he still I mean, I
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 2: hear he still talks about that to this day. I
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 2: mean he can't. He just looked too. I mean, everybody
• 1:39:40
  Speaker 2: went down. He was, how's my weight? You know, it's like,
• 1:39:42
  Speaker 2: oh shit, you know, and I didn't know we had
• 1:39:44
  Speaker 2: to weigh in and anyway, it was kind of I
• 1:39:46
  Speaker 2: didn't have to say anything to him about gaining weight,
• 1:39:49
  Speaker 2: you know, gaining thirty pounds during the three months, and like,
• 1:39:51
  Speaker 2: I don't even want to know how he did it.
• 1:39:53
  Speaker 2: I just want him to slowly take it off and
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 2: in the shade. But yeah, that's kind of how you
• 1:39:59
  Speaker 2: send your man.
• 1:40:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, tub story, that tubbs, he's got to go in.
• 1:40:05
  Speaker 1: I know, but this is a phenomenal Sorry, well yeah,
• 1:40:08
  Speaker 1: I mean it was.
• 1:40:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we had a slow start. We had early by
• 1:40:14
  Speaker 2: and I don't know, we were two and four whatever
• 1:40:16
  Speaker 2: it was. We had a bye week and we just
• 1:40:17
  Speaker 2: lost a close game. And now we're going into the
• 1:40:20
  Speaker 2: bye week and after a loss, and you know, it's
• 1:40:23
  Speaker 2: just what are they? You know, it's you can imagine
• 1:40:26
  Speaker 2: you're gonna sit there on the Monday after the game
• 1:40:28
  Speaker 2: and go, oh man, this is not gonna be fun.
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 2: We got bye, you gonna kill us? And I think
• 1:40:33
  Speaker 2: it was. It wasn't it was. It was later in
• 1:40:35
  Speaker 2: the bye week. It was right before the end, but
• 1:40:37
  Speaker 2: before the guys took off, and and uh, I filled
• 1:40:40
  Speaker 2: tubs up and had them covered with with ice down beer,
• 1:40:44
  Speaker 2: and I got up there and I just basically told
• 1:40:46
  Speaker 2: the team that they just got a melmbo from the league.
• 1:40:48
  Speaker 2: That's even starting over. They was just for some reason,
• 1:40:51
  Speaker 2: it's a fucked up deal. But the league decided to
• 1:40:53
  Speaker 2: start season over clean slight. Everybody's starting over. So this
• 1:40:57
  Speaker 2: is this is your last week of training camp. You
• 1:40:59
  Speaker 2: got the week kid off. Come back. We're starting freaking
• 1:41:02
  Speaker 2: under fee. Let's go win the division. And in the meantime, boys,
• 1:41:04
  Speaker 2: let's drink some beers. So beers out. So we started
• 1:41:08
  Speaker 2: tossing beers out and ship they went out and out
• 1:41:10
  Speaker 2: of great by weekend and then came back. So yeah,
• 1:41:13
  Speaker 2: it's just different stuff. So that's all to get the
• 1:41:15
  Speaker 2: boys going for the Yeah, that is the camaraderie. Man,
• 1:41:20
  Speaker 2: you're not going to get Well, we had it, we
• 1:41:22
  Speaker 2: had a deal and this would be the perfect forum.
• 1:41:26
  Speaker 2: But we went out and practiced against the Cowboys when
• 1:41:29
  Speaker 2: and we were moved the year before we moved to
• 1:41:31
  Speaker 2: l A. We went out talks and Art had the
• 1:41:32
  Speaker 2: joint prite against the Cowboys, and so basically it was
• 1:41:36
  Speaker 2: you know, hey, you know, we're going to practice, and
• 1:41:38
  Speaker 2: we got we got we have two practices and they're padded,
• 1:41:42
  Speaker 2: and I just kind of preached that, look, I don't
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 2: need bullshit. We're going to freaking physically play within the rules,
• 1:41:49
  Speaker 2: kick their ass. This is a great measuring stick for us.
• 1:41:52
  Speaker 2: But I don't need bullshit, you know, I don't want
• 1:41:54
  Speaker 2: fighting and all kind of stuff. Well, Des was hurt
• 1:41:58
  Speaker 2: and he had held out and he wasn't practicing, and
• 1:42:00
  Speaker 2: Dez was standing on the sideline and Dez was just
• 1:42:03
  Speaker 2: I didn't know it because I was on the other
• 1:42:05
  Speaker 2: other field with the with the I was on the
• 1:42:07
  Speaker 2: other field with offense, and Des had just gotten a
• 1:42:11
  Speaker 2: little out of control and nobody really calmed him down.
• 1:42:14
  Speaker 2: It was just MF and all the dbs. Yeah, but
• 1:42:17
  Speaker 2: he wasn't practicing. He was just standing there, and so
• 1:42:20
  Speaker 2: you know, I got word on the way back to
• 1:42:22
  Speaker 2: the hotel that this is not good. So you know,
• 1:42:25
  Speaker 2: I tried to. I made a call and said, hey, look,
• 1:42:27
  Speaker 2: is there any way you guys could maybe control Dez
• 1:42:29
  Speaker 2: a little bit because it's really inappropriate what he's saying
• 1:42:32
  Speaker 2: and how in his behavior and da da da da da.
• 1:42:34
  Speaker 2: And I knew that the des is hard to keep quiet,
• 1:42:38
  Speaker 2: you know. I knew there was probably the odds of
• 1:42:40
  Speaker 2: that happened again. And if it happened again, I knew
• 1:42:43
  Speaker 2: that the guys would take it in their own hands.
• 1:42:44
  Speaker 2: And so I did the same thing. I filled the
• 1:42:47
  Speaker 2: coolers on the bus with beers, knowing that the next
• 1:42:51
  Speaker 2: day's practice was going to get cut short because of fights. Yeah. Fighting,
• 1:42:56
  Speaker 2: you always knowing that's brilliant. Yeah, so on the second
• 1:43:00
  Speaker 2: and it and it did and it was, oh my gosh.
• 1:43:04
  Speaker 2: But was the recipient of a few. I got a
• 1:43:07
  Speaker 2: lot more respect for him because I could take a
• 1:43:09
  Speaker 2: hit now he did so. But we Yeah, so anyway,
• 1:43:15
  Speaker 2: guys were just hooting and hollering, drinking beers all the
• 1:43:17
  Speaker 2: way back to the hotel and in the training room,
• 1:43:19
  Speaker 2: and you know, we had whatever but it's just kind
• 1:43:23
  Speaker 2: of those things, you know. I mean, you know, if
• 1:43:25
  Speaker 2: you're in the locker room and as you should be,
• 1:43:27
  Speaker 2: and you get a pulse in a sense and a feel,
• 1:43:30
  Speaker 2: and you know you have relationships with therebod you know
• 1:43:33
  Speaker 2: what your team? Oh, absolutely, you just need to do
• 1:43:35
  Speaker 2: that and that's why you know, that's why you know
• 1:43:38
  Speaker 2: as always And I don't know how it is other places,
• 1:43:40
  Speaker 2: but man, I mean that locker room is a place
• 1:43:43
  Speaker 2: for everybody. And I'm walking I'm in that locker room
• 1:43:45
  Speaker 2: three or four times a day, just hanging out and
• 1:43:47
  Speaker 2: just get whatever. Because I don't want you guys to
• 1:43:50
  Speaker 2: stop your conversation while I walk by. I want you
• 1:43:52
  Speaker 2: to feel like I belong there, you know, and all that.
• 1:43:55
  Speaker 2: So you can't allow those things. You can't allow those
• 1:43:57
  Speaker 2: things become whatever they are, sanctuary, whatever, this you know,
• 1:44:00
  Speaker 2: it's it's it's twenty years of doing it. You get it, cut,
• 1:44:04
  Speaker 2: you get it, feel for it. Yeah. So that's awesome. Well,
• 1:44:07
  Speaker 2: we appreciate you coming on with No, you guys are great. No,
• 1:44:10
  Speaker 2: let's I want to circle right back around, uh to
• 1:44:13
  Speaker 2: Nashville and to what you guys have got in store
• 1:44:17
  Speaker 2: and which you got rolling in your softball game and
• 1:44:20
  Speaker 2: all that kind of stuff helps these people here because
• 1:44:22
  Speaker 2: this is this is unlike any place I've ever lived,
• 1:44:27
  Speaker 2: and uh, I'm spending my time between Montana and here.
• 1:44:30
  Speaker 2: I've got to remodel here. This is my home. My
• 1:44:32
  Speaker 2: kids are here, and I love the city and love
• 1:44:36
  Speaker 2: the franchise, and you know you guys, and just we
• 1:44:40
  Speaker 2: have a responsibility to do what we can. I know
• 1:44:42
  Speaker 2: you guys are doing that. So our thoughts, prayers, all
• 1:44:45
  Speaker 2: those things, and just confidence and patience and and trust
• 1:44:49
  Speaker 2: go out to all those people whose lives will be
• 1:44:51
  Speaker 2: affected forever by this tragedy. We're gonna need your help
• 1:44:55
  Speaker 2: doing it too. While you're here at State. We got that.
• 1:44:57
  Speaker 1: We got all hands on deck, Dade, Yeah, Tane, and
• 1:45:00
  Speaker 1: our hype that this platform can finally don't do something
• 1:45:03
  Speaker 1: giving back and get involved in us your voice and stuff.
• 1:45:06
  Speaker 2: So it's a good luck to you. Thank you, appreciate it,
• 1:45:09
  Speaker 2: Appreciate you. So yeah, yeah, I love it.