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Did This Doc Prove Genesis Is Real? We Watched It | Under the Docs Documentary Review · Under the Docs

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  Speaker 1: I absolutely think it's a story. It's a fairy tale.
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  Speaker 1: There we go. I said it.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I'll be praying for you as you're burning in
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  Speaker 2: hell for eternity.
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  Speaker 3: Under the docks. Yeah, under the docks. Very deep and
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  Speaker 3: we're breaking the locks. Furniture got clipped, they erase all
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  Speaker 3: the shots.
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  Speaker 1: They collect the dots.
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  Speaker 3: Under the docks. Under the docks. Yeah, under the docks.
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  Speaker 3: Under the docks. Under the Docks.
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  Speaker 2: And what a show we got for you today. We're
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  Speaker 2: going to be saving souls or maybe condemning some of
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  Speaker 2: you to hell. We're going to be watching Genesis Paradise Lost.
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  Speaker 2: And then in parentheses, part one. So I guess there's
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  Speaker 2: more to this is a 2017 documentary. It's a little
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  Speaker 2: over two hours. It was a long one. Sorry, Uncle Sean.
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  Speaker 2: And then it was directed by Ralph Streen and written
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  Speaker 2: by Tim Gwynn. And they kind of have a mouthful
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  Speaker 2: as their breakdown, their summary. Here's what it is. If
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  Speaker 2: there's one part of the Bible that has undergone more
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  Speaker 2: scrutiny and abuse than any other, it's the very beginning, Genesis.
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  Speaker 2: From both within and without the church, assaults on Genesis
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  Speaker 2: continue to question the creation and ultimately the creator. So
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  Speaker 2: what exactly happened at the creation, at the beginning? Creation
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  Speaker 2: Today and Sevenfold Films is proud to announce for the
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  Speaker 2: first time ever, using stunning visual effects and the latest
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  Speaker 2: in scientific research, Genesis will come to life right before
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  Speaker 2: your very eyes. So I was hyped for this one.
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  Speaker 2: I kind of like that description, that they're going to
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  Speaker 2: use the latest in scientific research and 3D animation and
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  Speaker 2: fully animate the entire book of Genesis. So, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: let's do a temperature check before we even go in
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  Speaker 2: on this one. How much do you believe in the
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  Speaker 2: literal story of Genesis before watching this, before it convinced
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  Speaker 2: you that it was all real?
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  Speaker 1: I would say... 15% maybe.
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  Speaker 4: And that's being generous. Like I'm trying to be a
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  Speaker 4: little bit generous here. I'd say 15. And like, that
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  Speaker 4: wasn't hard thinking on it. Like of like, Oh dang,
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  Speaker 4: this is actual real history. I've always thought of it
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  Speaker 4: more of like a fable, but now I've been converted
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  Speaker 4: and I'm a believer.
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  Speaker 2: So you started at one 5% and now you're a
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  Speaker 2: hundred percent.
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  Speaker 1: 115% a hundred, a.
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  Speaker 2: Hundred, four hundred percent more. And as soon as this started, I,
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  Speaker 2: you kind of get an idea of who made this, right?
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  Speaker 2: Because at first it says seven fold films, like, okay, whatever.
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  Speaker 2: And then it's like creation today. Okay. Fades the black.
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  Speaker 2: And then it's, kingdom works studios and you're like okay
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  Speaker 2: i got it and then it goes resurrection pictures and
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  Speaker 2: it's got like a big so like you you kind
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  Speaker 2: of get that they might be coming in from a
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  Speaker 2: certain angle and even in the summary of that you
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  Speaker 2: know genesis is being abused and that there's this an
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  Speaker 2: attack on genesis so i guess this is like the
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  Speaker 2: movie that is going to convince you if any of
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  Speaker 2: them could All right, let's plot the course of Genesis.
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  Speaker 2: Not the book, but the documentary about the book. this
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  Speaker 2: basically claims to be like a Pixar version to depict Genesis.
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  Speaker 2: I found this a lot of great reviews online. Like
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  Speaker 2: this is the one that you got to see. And
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  Speaker 2: just because it worked out, I've been doing a podcast
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  Speaker 2: with my friend Matt called straight Bible, and we're going
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  Speaker 2: to be covering the book of Genesis. So I was like,
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  Speaker 2: why not, you know, kill two birds, one stone, knock
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  Speaker 2: out a Genesis documentary. And, uh, I don't know, man,
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  Speaker 2: like this one, it actually starts out and, And it
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  Speaker 2: mentions like this is part one. And I thought that
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  Speaker 2: meant part one of this documentary and there was going
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  Speaker 2: to be like separated. But no, like there's actually another
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  Speaker 2: extension of this. So they couldn't even capture all of
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  Speaker 2: Genesis in a little over two hours.
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  Speaker 4: I keep hearing you say this book, and I think
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  Speaker 4: that you're right.
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  Speaker 1: Missing the point of it. It's the word of God.
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  Speaker 4: And that's where you don't understand everything that's in this film.
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  Speaker 4: This film is something that's going to take you to
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  Speaker 4: the next level in life. And let me read you
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  Speaker 4: a nice little, uh, um, comment that someone left, a
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  Speaker 4: review of this film to let you know.
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  Speaker 1: What we're getting into. I'm going to pray for this person.
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  Speaker 4: See, the reason I'm reading this is because I'm praying
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  Speaker 4: for all of you because the negative thoughts out there
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  Speaker 4: is only going to make us better and make this
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  Speaker 4: a better film for you to watch. The film starts
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  Speaker 4: out as, the comment is, propaganda in the age of
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  Speaker 4: scientific anthem. Nothing will subvert your intelligence faster than a
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  Speaker 4: glossing retelling of the same tired cliche that evolution is
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  Speaker 4: wrong and somehow Bronze Age religion is right. Nothing could
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  Speaker 4: be further from the truth, though it is quanted that
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  Speaker 4: the religious fundamentals are still trying hard to make intelligent
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  Speaker 4: people think in the modern age, think the goat herds
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  Speaker 4: into fetal crescents somehow no better than our entire collective
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  Speaker 4: body of science history. So this person right here is
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  Speaker 4: someone I'm praying for, right? They didn't understand the impact
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  Speaker 4: of this film.
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  Speaker 2: Now, was that an IMDb comment?
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  Speaker 1: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: See, it's funny because in my head, the social media,
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  Speaker 2: there's almost like caste system, like in India, right? So
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  Speaker 2: like Reddit is the joke that like most people think
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  Speaker 2: Reddit is like the lowest caste of, you know, online commentary.
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  Speaker 2: I would argue that IMDb is even dumber than that
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  Speaker 2: because at least Reddit When you go to Reddit, you're
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  Speaker 2: expecting that someone's going to argue against you and you're
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  Speaker 2: intentionally getting into an internet fight. When you go to
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  Speaker 2: IMDb and you try and start, you know, like, what
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  Speaker 2: are you even doing, right? Who has the time to
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  Speaker 2: go to an IMDb movie and start a debate against
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  Speaker 2: the book of Genesis on a random documentary comment section? So, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: that person's going straight to hell.
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  Speaker 4: Especially no one that's going to respond back, right? Nobody's
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  Speaker 4: running that IMDB page and like, oh.
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  Speaker 1: Dude, did you know what the group just got wrong?
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  Speaker 1: Nobody cares, bro. Yeah, that's worse than Yelp. Yeah, they're
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  Speaker 1: worse than a Yelp reviewer. Yelp reviewers are also.
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  Speaker 4: scum of the earth right you're like i get it
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  Speaker 4: you don't like the restaurant don't go back like you're
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  Speaker 4: not going to change anything like i get the making
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  Speaker 4: aware i guess they're not as bad as the imdb
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  Speaker 4: people because at least yelp you could be like ah
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  Speaker 4: just leave it simple like hey food was bad i
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  Speaker 4: would suggest not to go not like oh and the
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  Speaker 4: waiter took 25 minutes then i'll walk out bro like
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  Speaker 4: i just i have a different philosophy leaving comments on
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  Speaker 4: the internet is unless it's funny if you put something
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  Speaker 4: funny i do love that though man when someone puts
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  Speaker 4: something hilarious.
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  Speaker 2: I'm tempted to go on a Yelp tangent, but I'm
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  Speaker 2: going to bring us back. We'll save that for the
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  Speaker 2: hour hours paid Patreon or something. So I just want
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  Speaker 2: to cut right to the chase that the promise of
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  Speaker 2: this documentary is that they animate the book of Genesis.
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  Speaker 2: And while that's true on the surface, If you actually look,
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  Speaker 2: if you actually go through, because I've read the book
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  Speaker 2: of Genesis recently, they animate chapter one and like the
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  Speaker 2: first four lines of chapter two. And that's it. They
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  Speaker 2: don't go anywhere beyond that in this documentary. So I
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  Speaker 2: was a little bit let down. And then also at
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  Speaker 2: the very beginning, the animation, I mean, it's not Pixar
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  Speaker 2: Disney level, but it's definitely a higher production quality than
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  Speaker 2: we're used to seeing on just like a random one
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  Speaker 2: off indie documentary.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 2: However, the second that they get away from just animating
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  Speaker 2: dinosaurs and trees growing and like planets exploding, the second
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  Speaker 2: they get into animating humans, you're like, oh, OK, I
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  Speaker 2: see why they stop at the end of Genesis one.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's horrible.
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  Speaker 4: And I'll say this, to me, what locked me in
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  Speaker 4: on this film that kind of got me, there's always
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  Speaker 4: one thing that annoys me in anything, whether.
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  Speaker 1: It's a debate or anything, it's speaking in absolutes.
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  Speaker 4: And right away, they're already talking about how the Earth
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  Speaker 4: was created and in seven days. It's absolutely days like
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  Speaker 4: humans think of days. And that already pissed me off.
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  Speaker 4: I was already like, oh, here we go, bro. I
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  Speaker 4: was like, so you're telling me that you understand everybody else.
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  Speaker 4: And I'm not Here for the scientists either, like, fuck
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  Speaker 4: both of them, right? Like, they both have bad angles
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  Speaker 4: at times because they're so biased and they lean into it.
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  Speaker 4: But when they're telling me that for sure, they're like, look,
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  Speaker 4: it says in Hebrew that it's this and that means
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  Speaker 4: a day. And that's always bugged me because how come
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  Speaker 4: they can't, like, merge together, right?
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  Speaker 1: Like, here's a controversial thing.
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  Speaker 4: Maybe.
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  Speaker 1: God and science are the same thing.
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  Speaker 4: What if God created something and it takes a long time,
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  Speaker 4: but they put it right in the beginning that you
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  Speaker 4: cannot question it, that they're like, no, it's a day
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  Speaker 4: like 24 hours and that's it.
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  Speaker 1: And they start off right away on that point.
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  Speaker 2: Well, you got to expect some of that because again,
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  Speaker 2: there's been abuse of Genesis and an attack on Genesis.
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  Speaker 2: And this documentary is sort of like fighting back for Genesis, right?
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  Speaker 2: It's like the white knighting of Genesis. However, beyond them
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  Speaker 2: taking that hard line approach, they also make a lot
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  Speaker 2: of absolute, like the documentary starts off with this really
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  Speaker 2: weird voice that they've clearly lowered in software and added
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  Speaker 2: like a little echo to it. I was hoping it
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  Speaker 2: would go away at some point, but no, it pretty
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  Speaker 2: much stays there throughout the course of this, the over
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  Speaker 2: two hour documentary. But it, it starts out saying that
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  Speaker 2: there's essentially only two possibilities. One that the world came
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  Speaker 2: about purely through physical process and or two that somebody
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  Speaker 2: made us like fully formed you were just automatically created
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  Speaker 2: all the animals that could have existed already existed just
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  Speaker 2: like poof like that so i i kind of was
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  Speaker 2: also like rejecting that premise because you're saying there's not
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  Speaker 2: an option c d e f there's not like 10
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  Speaker 2: 000 different nope it's just these these two it's either
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  Speaker 2: that everything that science has said and evolution is all
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  Speaker 2: true or, you know, God created you and you were
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  Speaker 2: just there and there's really no room to even explore that.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe those two things are the same thing.
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  Speaker 4: And they really set out in the beginning of the
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  Speaker 4: film to like, we're going to convince you that science
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  Speaker 4: proves religion.
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  Speaker 1: Like, that's kind of like to me what I got
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  Speaker 1: in the hope.
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  Speaker 4: They're like, you got it all wrong. But and I'm
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  Speaker 4: with you. It's like the red team, blue team. Like, oh,
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  Speaker 4: there's only two sides to a political party. There's only
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  Speaker 4: two science, scientific methods.
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  Speaker 1: And it's like, no, man, there's multiple different angles.
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  Speaker 4: It would be nice if you got both of these
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  Speaker 4: parties in a room, but actually force them to like
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  Speaker 4: discuss and be like, Oh wow, this, we agree on this,
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  Speaker 4: but they don't, they go, they take hard lines where
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  Speaker 4: they're like, Nope, either you believe like me or you're
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  Speaker 4: going to hell.
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  Speaker 2: Well there, I mean, you can get rid of nuance sometimes.
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  Speaker 2: Like for example, is the, is the book of Genesis
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  Speaker 2: literally true start to end that feels like You can
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  Speaker 2: take a hard line, either yes or no, either true
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  Speaker 2: or false. And there's not like, oh, well, you know,
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  Speaker 2: maybe if you interpret it now, that means false. That
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  Speaker 2: doesn't mean like absolutely true. So if you're going to
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  Speaker 2: take absolute positions, then prepared for some absolute answers.
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  Speaker 1: And I absolutely think it's a story. It's a fairy tale.
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  Speaker 1: There we go. I said it.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I'll be praying for you as you're burning in
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  Speaker 2: hell for eternity. And one of the other things, too,
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  Speaker 2: that I guess caught me a little bit off guard,
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  Speaker 2: but I've heard a million times, is that when they
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  Speaker 2: introduce the concept of evolution, this is an actual quote
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  Speaker 2: from the documentary, like the first five minutes. the atheistic
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  Speaker 2: evolution and big bang. And let me just put this
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  Speaker 2: out for in the ether for anyone that needs to
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  Speaker 2: hear this, but the big bang was actually created by
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  Speaker 2: a Belgian Catholic priest slash physicists, uh, slash astronomer. It
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  Speaker 2: was this guy, George Lemaître. He's the one that came
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  Speaker 2: up with the big bang theory that people repeat right now.
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  Speaker 2: So whenever someone references the big bang, as if it's
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  Speaker 2: like an atheist approach, uh, From a Catholic priest, I guess.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, again, some people are like, well, Catholics aren't
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  Speaker 2: real Christians. You know, you got to be a Protestant
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  Speaker 2: to be a real Catholic. So, I mean, fine, the
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  Speaker 2: cripple fight yourselves in the corner. But whenever someone brings
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  Speaker 2: up the Big Bang and they try and disparage it
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  Speaker 2: as if it's like stupid atheistic drivel, then I'm already
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  Speaker 2: not going to trust most of the other things that
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  Speaker 2: you've got a hot take on because you don't even
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  Speaker 2: realize the Big Bang is a story about God. Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: And it's not about God. It's about the universe creating itself.
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  Speaker 4: And that's where they sit. They, they make it seem
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  Speaker 4: like everything in this point of view, obviously, right? Like
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  Speaker 4: we've watched a lot of documentaries. Everything has a big
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  Speaker 4: bias towards it. And they have all these professionals, people
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  Speaker 4: talking and discussing that they're, uh, certain fields that they
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  Speaker 4: know and they're dominating and that they're like this is
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  Speaker 4: why god exists but they're already they're not analyzing what
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  Speaker 4: really thinks they already have their pre-notion of like i
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  Speaker 4: think this let me add what i believe into what
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  Speaker 4: already exists like oh this is the blue sky this
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  Speaker 4: is why god made it blue oh they're like and
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  Speaker 4: that's the angle they're taking which is still the same
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  Speaker 4: argument you could take on someone that's only believing hardcore
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  Speaker 4: and evolutionism, which I find it ironic that both parties
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  Speaker 4: are kind of the same, right? Like they may believe
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  Speaker 4: different things, but their approach to things are very similar.
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  Speaker 4: It's like, believe everything I believe or you're a heathen.
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  Speaker 4: Either way, if you're an atheist and you go, hey,
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  Speaker 4: is God kind of real maybe?
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  Speaker 1: And they're like, get out of here.
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  Speaker 4: And if you are in a Christian group or any
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  Speaker 4: religious mainstream religion, you're like, I don't know, is God
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  Speaker 4: not real?
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  Speaker 1: And they're like, get out.
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  Speaker 4: Either way, you're moving off the bus and kicked off
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  Speaker 4: if you question anything.
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  Speaker 2: And this is, I think part of it too, is
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  Speaker 2: they go from hot take the hot take at the, again,
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  Speaker 2: this is the very like first five minutes of this documentary.
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  Speaker 2: They give you all the hot takes first and then
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  Speaker 2: they're like, okay, now here's the animation. So more of
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  Speaker 2: the hot in this one. has absolutely always bugged me, right?
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  Speaker 2: So one of the guys says, well, if things just happened,
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  Speaker 2: referring to big bang evolution, you know, the scientific approach,
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  Speaker 2: if things just happened, then there's really no right or wrong.
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  Speaker 2: There's no reason to exist. It's worthless. It's pointless. And
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  Speaker 2: then they start to imply that like, you could just
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  Speaker 2: do anything. Like there's more like morality just ceases to exist.
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  Speaker 2: And when someone starts going down that line and And
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  Speaker 2: it always feels like you're telling on yourself right now.
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  Speaker 2: You're telling me right now that if there wasn't a
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  Speaker 2: system and rules written down, then you're like, so I
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  Speaker 2: can just rape anyone I want? If that's the way
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  Speaker 2: that your brain, you default to the most base forms
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  Speaker 2: of behavior if there's not something telling you that... Like
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  Speaker 2: someone's going to spank you for the rest of your life.
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  Speaker 2: If you don't, or, you know, for your afterlife, that
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  Speaker 2: if you don't do this thing, right. Because then it's like,
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  Speaker 2: you're only doing the right thing because you're afraid of
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  Speaker 2: being punished for afterwards, which seems like the opposite of
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  Speaker 2: what you're supposed to take away from this.
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  Speaker 4: And then that means any moment that something happens, you're
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  Speaker 4: ready to, all right, murder's on the table.
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  Speaker 5: Like, right.
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  Speaker 4: You can do whatever you want. Like, like the purge, right?
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  Speaker 4: Everything becomes the purge.
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  Speaker 1: And you're right.
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  Speaker 4: Like it's these spiritual rules and it's like, well, how
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  Speaker 4: would you be a good person regardless?
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  Speaker 5: Right.
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  Speaker 1: Like I always told people, like, I, I, I have
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  Speaker 1: my beliefs and I don't know if it's spiritual. I
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  Speaker 1: don't know what the hell they call it.
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  Speaker 5: Right.
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  Speaker 4: Like I have my own thoughts on what things are. And, and,
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  Speaker 4: I've told people, I'm like, what does it matter? Like,
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  Speaker 4: what does it matter what I think? Like, I'm just
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  Speaker 4: trying to be a good person. And even if you
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  Speaker 4: don't like Jesus or he's real or not real, like
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  Speaker 4: there's many debates. It's like, okay, well you can listen
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  Speaker 4: to the message. You can be like, oh, just be
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  Speaker 4: good to people. Oh, I'm cool with that. Like, I
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  Speaker 4: don't need to know that he for sure existed to
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  Speaker 4: be like, yeah, I probably shouldn't be a dick.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 4: Like I should try to be cool. Like I should
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  Speaker 4: take care of myself and my family, but at the
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  Speaker 4: same time.
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  Speaker 1: Be like, ah, you don't got to be a dick
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  Speaker 1: all the time.
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  Speaker 4: And then realize sometimes you are going to be a
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  Speaker 4: dick and it's okay too.
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  Speaker 5: Right.
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  Speaker 4: Like sometimes you're going to be pissed off for no reason.
• 16:34
  Speaker 4: But this like moral compass, this is like kind of
• 16:37
  Speaker 4: what got me agitated with this film. Not to mention
• 16:40
  Speaker 4: like all these little interludes. Like I'm like, oh my God,
• 16:43
  Speaker 4: another interlude.
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: And then it was the day of like trying to
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: read scripture. And I'm like, dude, like it was, I
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: was so mad, bro. Not even going to lie. I
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: was getting so, and then they come back. I'm like
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: this piece of shit.
• 16:55
  Speaker 4: So it did get me in a different field, but
• 16:58
  Speaker 4: how they're preaching to me is like, I need to
• 17:00
  Speaker 4: listen to them. And it just, reminds me of so
• 17:03
  Speaker 4: many people I see online and where they say they
• 17:05
  Speaker 4: contradict themselves. They stand on this like moral compass, but
• 17:09
  Speaker 4: yet you don't know what they're doing. They're the ones
• 17:12
  Speaker 4: that are cheating on their wives. They're the ones that
• 17:13
  Speaker 4: are doing the negative things. And then me being a
• 17:15
  Speaker 4: person like, yeah, I'll present myself as is.
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: And they're like, oh, look, he drinks. Oh, he smokes.
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: He's bad. And I'm like, bro, he's literally killing people. Like,
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean?
• 17:24
  Speaker 4: Like they, they look at the surface level and a
• 17:27
  Speaker 4: lot of these people, and that's maybe my bias shining
• 17:30
  Speaker 4: through is when I hear them talking about Genesis and
• 17:32
  Speaker 4: it being a real history and not even having any
• 17:35
  Speaker 4: debate on it.
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: It's like closed chapter. This is proof. You're an idiot.
• 17:39
  Speaker 4: If you don't believe that this is real history, get
• 17:41
  Speaker 4: out of here is the same people that are like
• 17:43
  Speaker 4: doing negative things in their life or not being godly
• 17:47
  Speaker 4: quote unquote and helping people or doing the right thing.
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: They're only speaking it, and I'm like, I don't like
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: that shit.
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: The other part of this, too, I mean, if you're
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: going to take the extreme position of... If you can
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: just do anything, then morality doesn't exist, and I can
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: just do murder and rape and all that. I mean,
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: that's almost the same equivalent of you find your kid
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: just torturing animals, and you're like, wait a minute, little Billy. Look,
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: technically the Bible doesn't say not to do that anyways,
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: but if you're like, that's not the right thing to do.
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: If the only reason you're not out there torturing animals
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: is because someone told you it's against the rules, and
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: you're like, oh, they got me. If only that rule
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: wasn't there. I feel, again, like you're telling on yourself
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: a little bit, saying that this book is the only
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: thing stopping you from doing horrific things or that you
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: think the rest of the world is going to do
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: horrific things without it. And then to harp on that
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: about life being worthless and pointless, what, because this one
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: book that you read might not be the full story,
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: then that means all of life for everyone for all 6,000
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: years that we've been here, according to Genesis, right, is
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: worthless and pointless. Yeah.
• 18:59
  Speaker 4: And another point that they make a claim that they
• 19:03
  Speaker 4: make that like always annoys me as well as because
• 19:05
  Speaker 4: none of us, like you're going to argue that the
• 19:09
  Speaker 4: earth is 3000, 6,000 years old and be like, it's
• 19:11
  Speaker 4: not 3.8 million. Like the, the, why is it so
• 19:14
  Speaker 4: important to, we're right on how old the earth is
• 19:18
  Speaker 4: and i get it that they're scientific and there's a
• 19:19
  Speaker 4: lot of stuff that they're saying too and that's it's
• 19:22
  Speaker 4: like some of the stuff is trust me bro because
• 19:24
  Speaker 4: i don't know it right like i'm like i don't
• 19:25
  Speaker 4: know exactly what you're talking about i'm not an expert
• 19:28
  Speaker 4: in this field that you're talking about i don't know
• 19:30
  Speaker 4: geology i don't know like uh i i can't you
• 19:32
  Speaker 4: could tell me some bullshit and i might go all
• 19:34
  Speaker 4: right i guess you're right unless i look into it
• 19:36
  Speaker 4: later but when you're arguing about how old the earth
• 19:39
  Speaker 4: why does it matter And one of the things I
• 19:42
  Speaker 4: will say, and I wonder if people were getting sparked
• 19:45
  Speaker 4: up like right away as well they were talking about
• 19:47
  Speaker 4: the firmament and the earth being flat and and then
• 19:51
  Speaker 4: I was like people were watching that and going all
• 19:54
  Speaker 4: right I like where this is going and they're sucked
• 19:56
  Speaker 4: in and later they're going to.
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: Be very disappointed if this doesn't get into flat earth
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: at all, but I would imagine that some of the
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: people that we see in this documentary might be able
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: to go off on that. So hope, hopefully part two,
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: they talk about flat earth. And then finally they, and again, man,
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: I've got a note that it was, as I was
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: watching this, my note is like, yikes off to a
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: rough start. It's all hot takes before we even get
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: to book a Genesis. Like I'm not just cherry picking
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: a whole bunch of random things. These are all things
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: that it leads with before it even shows you the
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: animation and And the last thing that they basically have
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: all the different people sitting in chairs and there's a
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: guy sitting in like a planetarium with like weird angles
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: and they're going off on how the state education system
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: has been letting atheists run, you know, the education system
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: and that they've, they've pushed religion, which is objectively true.
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: But then what they're doing is they're staging the next
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: two hours of your life. As you watch this documentary
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: as like atheists, This is the attack that's been leveraged
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: against the book of Genesis. You've got these atheists talking
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: evolution and big bang and they're removing it from schools. Okay.
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: So if you're riling up the troops, right, this is
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: like they're attacking us out there. We're losing lives, man.
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: We've got to get to the front line. We got
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: to fight back. Like, I'm hyped up. I'm like, all right, like,
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: make the best case you can to show that this
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: is like a just war that you're leveraging. And then
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: it finally starts with the 3D animation of Genesis. And
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: it's got the guy with the narration and it's. I'm
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: not going to reread all of Genesis, but it's like,
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: first here comes the light, then comes the water, then
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: comes the firmament, then the land, then the grass, and
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: then it has trees, and then eventually the trees yield fruit,
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: which makes more trees, which is describing this fractal nature
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: of things. This is without commentary, right? This is just
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: straight up reciting Genesis and showing all this. And like
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: the visuals are not bad, but the voiceover kind of
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: kills the entire thing for me. And the other thing
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: too is the... the music is a little too much
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: like it's got these big like timpani hits like boom
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: boom boom and when you use that with a little
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: bit of like reservation right you sprinkle that stuff in
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: a little bit to make this big impactful moment but
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: they just straight play it for like five minutes straight
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: and like nothing you know it's not like it's escalating
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: and things that are happening so you i was getting
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: a little fatigued watching like what's gonna happen is something
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: gonna explode And no, just a bunch of trees keep
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: growing and like rocks spring up and like a tree,
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: you know, drops a piece of fruit.
• 22:31
  Speaker 4: I would say to the worst part was I was like,
• 22:34
  Speaker 4: is my TV acting up? Cause in the first, like
• 22:36
  Speaker 4: when they're introducing, it's all black, right?
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: It was dark. And I'm like, wait, what the fuck's
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: going on?
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: Like I'm all, I hadn't created light yet. Yeah.
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: You didn't create light yet. And I'll agree with you.
• 22:46
  Speaker 4: The man, the CGI is cool. Like it looks decent,
• 22:49
  Speaker 4: but it really kills it with the music and the narrator. Like,
• 22:52
  Speaker 4: it's like, you know, You try too much. That's where
• 22:55
  Speaker 4: I'm like, this is getting like so propagandized where you're
• 22:59
  Speaker 4: like pushing your narrative hard onto people where you're like, ah,
• 23:03
  Speaker 4: and I'm looking at this and I'm like, okay, this
• 23:05
  Speaker 4: is going to be one way. Like, I know a
• 23:07
  Speaker 4: lot of the documentaries you watch are biased and one sided,
• 23:09
  Speaker 4: but you're like, oh, this is a hundred percent one way.
• 23:11
  Speaker 4: Like there's no, if they talk about the other side
• 23:14
  Speaker 4: at all, it's just to be like, they're devils.
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: There's not even a side here. It's really like if
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: you're right and you believe in Genesis or if you're wrong.
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: We had to get all the hot takes out of
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: the way because the documentary front loads all the hot takes.
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: So then here are the objective claims that the documentary makes. First,
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: it says... They posit a question and then they'll answer
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: it for you. So they're asking like, is Genesis poetry?
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: And across the board, everyone in this documentary is saying, no,
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: the Genesis is written in a historical like documentary style.
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: It's not written in poetry. It's not written to be
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: considered as like fictionalized or as a metaphor that it
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: is literal. And you mentioned when we first started this,
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: The Bible claims that it's like in six literal days
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: were just like our days, a literal 24-hour day. However,
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: we'll get into the weeds later on in this. A day,
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: because the concept is like, well, what's a day to God, right?
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: Maybe a day to God, if he created everything in
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: just a few days, maybe a day to him could
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: be a million years. And that's when some of these
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: hard line in this documentary are like, nope, a day
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: is 24 hours, right? And what they don't tell you
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: until very later on, it's like, but the speed of
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: light used to be different. So more like light could
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: travel farther and more things could happen in a day,
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: even though it's only 24 hours, like their hour was,
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: you know, 10,000 of our hours. It just, it feels
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: like you're pushing your peas around on the plate a
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: little bit. And like, I see, I ate all my vegetables, mom.
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: I agree.
• 24:51
  Speaker 4: Like they kind of shake it up because I'm with you.
• 24:53
  Speaker 4: You could get me on board if you're like, hey,
• 24:55
  Speaker 4: I don't know what a day is. I don't know
• 24:56
  Speaker 4: what I've always thought that, too. I'm like, OK, that
• 24:59
  Speaker 4: makes sense to me. You're like, hey, it's seven days,
• 25:01
  Speaker 4: but a day to God can be whatever time. And
• 25:03
  Speaker 4: I'm like, then you could kind of line it up
• 25:04
  Speaker 4: with science. To me, the goal would be to be like, hey,
• 25:07
  Speaker 4: I'm just aligning up with some of the science and
• 25:09
  Speaker 4: I'm going to take some of the stuff that you
• 25:10
  Speaker 4: have discovered and add it in with what I think
• 25:13
  Speaker 4: is instead of being like, nope.
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: We're going to change it. And then you, and then
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: you weasel back in it by like, whoa, you hold up.
• 25:21
  Speaker 4: I'm not saying, yeah, the days, but 24 hours are different.
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, what? It's the same.
• 25:26
  Speaker 4: You're, you're, what are you debating here? Like, what are
• 25:29
  Speaker 4: you pushing off? You're criticizing. People will be like, no, a.
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: Day is a day, seven days. Like we have one, two, three, four, one, two,
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: but the hours are different. Get out of here. That
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: kind of pissed me off a little bit.
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: That was the second major claim that this documentary makes.
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: And it says that the seven day week comes directly
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: from the Bible. And I guess in the logic. if
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: you're making this documentary is like, and because it came
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: from the Bible and we still use it, science proof,
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: proof that it's all real. Although there's an inconvenient note
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: that this documentary doesn't bring up, but I just, I
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: know because I'm a weird date nerd, but the seven
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: day week predates the Bible. Absolutely. Because they use a
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: seven day week in like Mesopotamia and ancient Babylon because
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: of the, uh, the seven ancient planets, uh, Right. So
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: it was it was also the number seven for a
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: different reason. But again, you're not going to get those
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: like nuance of like, well, you know, maybe you didn't
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: all come from the Bible because here's an example where
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: they had another. To me, like they're both fascinating. Why
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: would they both land on seven? They're clearly it's not
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: an arbitrary number. So it does seem like the number
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: seven and our date system is. has something important there,
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: but I don't know if the importance is because it
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: came from Genesis. I think that the importance is that
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: it's pointing out some weird, like fractal reality. And that
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: would have been infinitely more interesting than just being like, see,
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: we still got a seven day week. So therefore Genesis
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: is accurate.
• 26:53
  Speaker 4: And I think part of the problem when there are
• 26:55
  Speaker 4: telling some of these claims, it's, they're trying to be cool.
• 26:58
  Speaker 4: Like I will give them this, right? It's not like
• 27:00
  Speaker 4: your mom and pops, uh, church videos, right? Like they
• 27:04
  Speaker 4: did put some, uh, cinema to it. They try to
• 27:07
  Speaker 4: make this look like something that we would all want
• 27:10
  Speaker 4: to watch.
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: Like, I think they tried.
• 27:12
  Speaker 4: The problem is, is that they didn't put in nuance
• 27:15
  Speaker 4: and they didn't like, and the way they structured it,
• 27:18
  Speaker 4: because then you're like hearing people talk, then it cuts
• 27:21
  Speaker 4: to a CGI scene of a voiceover. That's like heavily
• 27:25
  Speaker 4: like edited and like, Not even well, I will say.
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: Too bad AI wasn't back then.
• 27:30
  Speaker 4: Then it could just use 11 labs and really get
• 27:32
  Speaker 4: shit going, and it might have sounded really nice.
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: But even though Pro Tools was around, but anyways, I digress.
• 27:38
  Speaker 4: They keep going back and forth, and then you're getting
• 27:40
  Speaker 4: these experts, again, which we've seen in a lot of documentaries.
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: You can put doctor. I didn't look up everybody.
• 27:47
  Speaker 4: I'm not making any claims that they're not anything, but
• 27:49
  Speaker 4: you can put anything in front of your name, and
• 27:51
  Speaker 4: that is you.
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: So now I'm watching every documentary like, are you a doctor?
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: Really?
• 27:57
  Speaker 4: Do you really study that? Are you just in the
• 27:59
  Speaker 4: mountains right now? Are you an archaeologist or are you
• 28:02
  Speaker 4: just brushing dirt?
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: I don't believe doctor anymore. If it says doctor anywhere
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: near someone's name, I know too many fake doctors that
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: just randomly put that in their name because it works.
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: People see that and they're like, oh, doctor such and such,
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: you must know something. So yeah, that's worth an entire rant.
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: But the next thing that they mention in this documentary
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: is they're saying that Darwin comes along. So they basically
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: jump from the creation of the book of Genesis to Darwin.
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: Like this Darwin guy comes along with his origin of
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: species and he directly contradicts the Bible. And it was
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: almost like they're pitching it that Darwin sat down. He's like,
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: how can I contradict Genesis? And that was the seed
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: that he started with. Uh, and so there's clearly going
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: to be this like whole evolution bit that we're going
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: to get into that because more people pick it very
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: specific items, but that's what the seed that they plan
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: is like. And then Darwin comes along and tries to
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: antagonize God. And then they move on to the next claim,
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: which is that because in Genesis, God creates the water
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: first and then, um, you know, land and earth and
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: everything comes after water, um, They're saying like, well, perhaps
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: water that the earth was made from. And I just
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: had to stop and like, it blew my mind that
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: somebody had just said that. And I guess technically you
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: could separate the molecules and the atoms inside water and
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: like rearrange them. And I don't, I don't even think
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: that that would necessarily work. But the claim that this
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: documentary is making is that first it was all And
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: then God made land out of the water. And I'll
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: skip to one of my takeaway notes on this is
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: that the book of Genesis just describes what happened, right?
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: Here's what happened, but it doesn't describe how any of
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: that happened. It doesn't actually give you like the process,
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: like the chemical formulas and how long did this take?
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: You know, how long do you put it in the oven?
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: Do you have to stir it? Do you have to
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: whisk it? Do you have to like, poke it with
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: a fork and turn it like it doesn't get into
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: that nitty gritty detail. And usually when these documentaries come up,
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: they're the ones that are trying to be like, and
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: here's how it worked. Like, where are you even getting
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: that from? Where are you getting that? The earth was
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: made from the water. It's just because there's a lack
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: of information in the actual book of Genesis that forces
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: you to speculate. And then end of rant coming up soon.
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: But like, if you're speculating and you're like, well, how
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: did that work? Because I need to understand that it
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: worked in a logical way. Well, aren't you sort of
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: undermining the concept of faith? If you need to prove
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: that this all happened, then you don't need faith anymore
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: because you've proven it to yourself. Like, just be cool
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: with being like, you know what? I just believe it.
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: I'm like, who knows where the land came from? Maybe
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: it came from the water, maybe some other magical God property.
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: But like, why do we have to figure out like
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: the exact mechanism?
• 30:55
  Speaker 4: And that's why I think that I can understand people
• 30:58
  Speaker 4: feeling disrespected if you call it a fairy tale, a fable,
• 31:01
  Speaker 4: something like that. But like poetry seems perfect. It seems
• 31:04
  Speaker 4: like it's not exactly poetry. Maybe it has like I
• 31:07
  Speaker 4: don't know how much rhythm it has to it. But again,
• 31:09
  Speaker 4: I don't know how when it was written in Hebrew,
• 31:11
  Speaker 4: maybe it was right when it's been translated over time,
• 31:14
  Speaker 4: it could have changed and changed. kind of the method
• 31:17
  Speaker 4: of it. But I think poetry would be a good
• 31:18
  Speaker 4: way to describe it. And it's not disrespectful. It's being like, hey,
• 31:22
  Speaker 4: we don't know everything. It's not detailing account. It's not
• 31:25
  Speaker 4: a historical book, like you said, of this and this
• 31:28
  Speaker 4: exactly happened, or at least the take of it. It's
• 31:31
  Speaker 4: more of, hey, this is what we think or believe happened.
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: And this is what we acknowledge happened. We don't need
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: a debate. We don't need you to be like, oh, I.
• 31:40
  Speaker 4: Proved it by doing this scientific because now you're not
• 31:43
  Speaker 4: even acting as in God, which is ironic because you're
• 31:45
  Speaker 4: trying to prove God's existence.
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: But you're kind of going against it of what you
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: just said of he with little faith.
• 31:52
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: He's trying to be like, you need to believe in God.
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: Just believe in God. If someone else doesn't, you're like,
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: all right, cool, man. Like, it's really easy. I don't
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: know if you know how to do that, but you
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: can just be like, all right.
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: Another hardline claim they make, well, someone says, it is
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: impossible to walk away from these texts, talking about Genesis,
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: thinking that it was just a local Mesopotamian flood and
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: not a global flood. So first of all, I don't
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: know if that's true, man. I'm pretty sure that I've
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: read Genesis a few times. And I guess that even
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: as I'm reading that, I understand that it's talking about
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: this flood, but... the Bible never, especially in Genesis, as
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: far as my interpretation of it, it never talks about
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: like North America or Africa or China or Australia or anything, right?
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: That it's basically localized to just Mesopotamia, like this one
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: specific area. So they go and answer that in this documentary.
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: They're like, well, have you ever heard of Pangea? And
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: the idea was that There was just this one landmass,
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: and that technically was all of Mesopotamia, and then after
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: the global flood, that the flood maybe also caused Pangea
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: to split apart, and that's where you get the different continents,
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: but technically all those continents were in one different, you know,
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: one single spot, like a big island floating on the Earth.
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: So I guess so. Again, though, like the Bible doesn't
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: actually mention Pangea and mention like the creation of continents
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: and all this. And I was never looking into Genesis
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: thinking like, well, now you have to describe why different
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: continents exist. It doesn't seem like the Genesis is concerned
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: with explaining that. But this documentary then superimposes that. And
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: it's trying to explain why all the logic works. So
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: they're getting farther and farther away from me as I'm
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: watching this.
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: They would have had me. I thought they were going
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: to take the angle of Garden of Eden was in Florida.
• 33:49
  Speaker 4: And I was like, OK, maybe this might get a
• 33:50
  Speaker 4: little interesting because I've seen a couple of theories on that.
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: But they didn't.
• 33:54
  Speaker 4: They just kind of wanted to prove they basically are
• 33:56
  Speaker 4: saying that any canyon is proof of the flood. So
• 34:00
  Speaker 4: like any canyon in the world, that's what the that's
• 34:03
  Speaker 4: how I took it, how they were talking about it,
• 34:05
  Speaker 4: because they're like, if you see a canyon, that's proof.
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: Like, what else could it cause? It's only the floods.
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, OK, bro, now you're losing me.
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: This is one where they start getting into picking at
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: the seams. They quickly back away from it and they
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: go on to the next section. But he's saying, okay,
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: if we're going to take that Genesis is not poetry,
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: that it's literal, and that days are 24 hours, and
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: that everything is scientific and logical according to this approach
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: on Genesis, then they ask this question, well, how could
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: there be lights, or sorry, how could there be plants
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: that before the sun was created, right? Like God creates
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: light and then he creates water and the firmament and
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: plants and all this. And then later he creates the
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: sun and all the other stars and the other galaxies.
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: So if you're wondering, well, plants need light in order
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: to live because that's how they, you know, they generate
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: and they use chlorophyll. But how does a plant exist
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: if the sun's not there to give it the light?
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: And they make this claim, well, because light exists independent
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: of its source and they move on. And again, I
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: was like, wait a minute. Hold on.
• 35:10
  Speaker 4: How?
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: I understand that you could have a star that emits
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: light and then the star dies. And so that light exists.
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: The photons exist in reality as they're traveling. And the
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: source doesn't exist anymore. But that source was still a source.
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: So what they're basically saying is that when God created light,
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: it just directly fed into the plants and in some
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: structured way. But again, the, the actual book of Genesis
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: doesn't explain how it just explains what, so this documentary
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: is coming in and it's like, well, we don't really
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: have a great explanation for the how on this one,
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: but we're just letting you know that there's this little
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: rule that light exists independent of its source and it
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: moves on. So that one, I, if they would have
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: explained it in more detail, I would have appreciated it.
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: But I, I understand why they didn't because it's a
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: ridiculous statement. Yeah.
• 36:01
  Speaker 4: But that's the problem with this documentary is that they're
• 36:05
  Speaker 4: making claims and some things they're trying to go more
• 36:08
  Speaker 4: thorough on. They're like, Oh, let me prove to you
• 36:09
  Speaker 4: why this, this is the reason that sometimes they're, ah, no,
• 36:12
  Speaker 4: don't look at that anymore. Like they throw it out
• 36:14
  Speaker 4: there and then they pull it back. But then there's some,
• 36:16
  Speaker 4: they try to go in detail on like this. They
• 36:18
  Speaker 4: think like they got their smoking gun. See, this is
• 36:20
  Speaker 4: the proof and anything they can't explain, they kind of
• 36:22
  Speaker 4: brush off.
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: Here's one that I still don't understand. Even after having
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: watched this entire documentary, uh, And they make such a
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: huge point of the Earth is maybe 6,000 years old,
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: and it's not billions of years old. And it seems
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: to be a very hard-lined approach that I've seen brought,
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: not just in this documentary, but whenever someone's trying to
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: prove the validity of Genesis. And to this day, maybe
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: someone can answer in the comments or something, but... Why
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: does it matter? Why does the Bible require that the
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: earth is only thousands of years old and it can't
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: be billions of years old? I haven't come across the
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: specific part in Genesis where it's like, and then, you know,
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: exactly 6,000 years later. And if you disagree with this,
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: you're totally going to hell. Like that part doesn't exist
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: in Genesis. So the whole 6,000 versus billions thing. Feels
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: like just a made up premise. And basically, it feels
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: that no one cared about how old the Earth was
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: until the theory of evolution and the Big Bang came
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: into the forefront. And then when they say, well, it's,
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: you know, the Earth is roughly like three point four
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: billion or whatever the number is. Uh, once that came in,
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: then all of the Genesis apologists were like, no, it's
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: thousands of years old. It's almost like they were the
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: ones picking the fight, but you know, maybe someone can
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: correct me on that. I still, to this day, don't
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: understand who cares. Why, why does thinking the earth is
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: billions of years old somehow disprove anything in the Bible?
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: I don't get it.
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: It reminds me of social media and politics now, right?
• 37:54
  Speaker 4: Like you see on social media and people are like
• 37:56
  Speaker 4: hearing one side say something, the other side say something.
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: People, they don't even know, right?
• 38:01
  Speaker 4: But what happens is then when they get back into
• 38:04
  Speaker 4: the real world and someone mentions one of those talking points.
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: It like triggers their brain to go, Oh no, you idiot.
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: Like Michelle Obama has a penis. Like, you know what
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: I mean?
• 38:13
  Speaker 4: Like they don't know what to say. Like they just
• 38:14
  Speaker 4: say the most random thing, buzzword on from their side.
• 38:17
  Speaker 4: And that's what gets them all riled up.
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: And I agree.
• 38:20
  Speaker 4: That's why it's specifically only to argue against atheism.
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: They're like, Oh, well, atheists believe it in science and.
• 38:28
  Speaker 4: That it's 38 billion years or whatever they think it is.
• 38:32
  Speaker 4: So we can't, and it has to be drastically different because,
• 38:35
  Speaker 4: Like it's, they has to be so different.
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: So, cause they're saying, cause then it's like, where are
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: you getting your 6,000?
• 38:41
  Speaker 4: Then now I have to, you have the burden of
• 38:43
  Speaker 4: proof to prove why it's 6,000 instead of just being like, ah,
• 38:47
  Speaker 4: it could be 38 million.
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: It could be 6,000.
• 38:49
  Speaker 4: I'm not really sure. Leaving it open to where it's
• 38:52
  Speaker 4: in it for interpretation instead of saying, nope, it's this.
• 38:55
  Speaker 4: And it's only to go against what they believe anybody
• 38:58
  Speaker 4: that's really into science is atheists.
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: Well, I do understand where some of the 6,000 comes from.
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: And if you add up all of the years that
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: people lived, that goes through the book of Genesis. And
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: I think some of the numbers, I might have that wrong.
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: But if you add up the ages and when this
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: person was born and their kid lived to be 600
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: and their kid lived to be 300, if you add
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: up all that lineage, then roughly I think people come
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: to 6,000. And I think that's also where these hardliners
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: are like, nope, a day to God was 24 hours,
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: the same it was. to us.
• 39:30
  Speaker 6: Again, I mean.
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: The proof in that is the Hebrew word that they
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: use for day is the one that we still use today. Like, okay,
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: why does that make... Okay, anyways, moving on. The next thing,
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: one of my absolute favorite topics when this comes up,
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: and I don't even know why they brought this into
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: the documentary because it just kicks up mud more than anything.
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: but it goes into dragons and dinosaurs. And the premise
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: that it's making is that nobody had ever written about
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: dinosaurs in, you know, historical pre evolutionary texts, but they
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: did write about dragons. So the concept in this documentary
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: is that people writing about dragons were actually talking about dinosaurs.
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: They just used to call dinosaurs dragons. So it's like
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: the same thing. It's like, okay, okay like maybe i'm
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: open to that maybe ancient peoples found these huge skeletons
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: and they were like holy hell this is this okay
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: and clearly it was a dragon um but why are
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: dragons acceptable and dinosaurs aren't i don't i don't understand
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: the beef between like what point were they actually making
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: i still don't get it well.
• 40:38
  Speaker 4: I don't know because there is a huge community also
• 40:41
  Speaker 4: that like not a huge community a portion of I
• 40:43
  Speaker 4: believe dinosaurs do not exist whatsoever.
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: There's an argument. I don't know whether they do.
• 40:48
  Speaker 4: A lot of my stances are, I don't know, and
• 40:50
  Speaker 4: I don't really care that much. Like, I'm not going
• 40:52
  Speaker 4: to go on a limb like, oh, man, dinosaurs are real.
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: Like, I don't care to argue either point.
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: I'll say dinosaurs are real. I think dinosaurs were absolutely real.
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: There was something called the Bone Wars where rich explorers
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: were just making shit up and selling it to museums
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: because people be grifting. That's just a normal part of peopling, right?
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: But that doesn't mean that those two grifters now discount
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: the existence of dinosaurs across the board.
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right. And that's why I was watching this.
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: That's funny you said that.
• 41:23
  Speaker 4: The same thing that thought in my brain was, OK,
• 41:26
  Speaker 4: this guy's going to lie and sell fake bones to
• 41:29
  Speaker 4: make money.
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: But that's what people do. People lie. It's the same
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: thing with people like mad at AI. They're like, this
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: guy's using AI for messed up reasons. OK, well, it's
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: still a good tool, idiot. Like we can still use it.
• 41:39
  Speaker 4: But yes, somebody is going to use things negatively to
• 41:43
  Speaker 4: benefit themselves.
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: That's human beings, man, that are not saved, obviously, and
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: haven't watched this film.
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: Then they start adjacent. Like, again, I don't know why
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: they started with dragons and dinosaurs, but I realized that
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: it was basically the entry point to then pivot into
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: how carbon dating is all nonsense. And that modern day
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: carbon dating is based on all of these preconceived notions.
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: And some of them have been discounted over time. Like, okay, fine, fine.
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: But yeah, This is getting into the weeds where they're
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: talking about these really abstract concepts. You know what would
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: really help would be some great animated visuals in this
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: movie that promises that it's going to animate all the
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: stuff on Genesis. But again, as soon as they get
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: done with... plants growing out of the earth and stars exploding.
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: There's no more animation. Now you're just talking to a
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: guy in a chair that's telling you that carbon dating
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: is nonsense. Uh, but they don't really have any examples
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: of like, and here's an example of it being wrong.
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: And here's an example of like an alternate being correct. So, um,
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: then one person says okay and based on everything that
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: we've just discussed we're about like you know an hour
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: and a half and the documentary is almost over they
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: say genesis passes the scientific method and it just moves
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: on and like come on and at this point now
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: we're just saying things.
• 43:04
  Speaker 4: They're saying whatever they want that's like as one of
• 43:06
  Speaker 4: the parts where they have uh uh I don't know
• 43:09
  Speaker 4: if it's an archeologist or a geologist, whatever he was,
• 43:12
  Speaker 4: they were showing like bones of dinosaurs and different like
• 43:14
  Speaker 4: lizards and stuff. And he's like, do you see how
• 43:16
  Speaker 4: this creature looks crazy? There's no way. Look at how
• 43:20
  Speaker 4: the bone structure is. Look at a spider. Like they're
• 43:23
  Speaker 4: showing the uniqueness of different animals and creatures. And that
• 43:27
  Speaker 4: was their proof of no way that this could be random.
• 43:31
  Speaker 4: And I'm like, dude, you don't have to prove that
• 43:33
  Speaker 4: to me. But you came in guns a blazing like, oh,
• 43:37
  Speaker 4: we're going to prove that you're an idiot unless you
• 43:40
  Speaker 4: believe exactly what we believe.
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: And then you're like, look at it. Tell me that
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: that's not God.
• 43:45
  Speaker 4: And you're like, you're not explaining anything. You're just showing
• 43:48
  Speaker 4: me different creatures and their uniqueness. And I was supposed
• 43:50
  Speaker 4: to go, Oh yeah, I see it, bud.
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: I get now. I get it. Thank you. And then,
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: and then they bring out the skulls and then they
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: bring out like the Neanderthal skulls and the, the ape
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: skull and a human skull. And they start doing this
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: compare like, look there, you know, the, look at the
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: orbital cavity and look at how the shape of the skull, bro,
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: show me in the book of Genesis where God talks
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: about the orbital cavity and how large the cranium is
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: and like how there's a slope in the foot. It
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: doesn't get into any of that because that's the how,
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: and the book of Genesis is just talking about the what.
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: So yeah, again, I was a little bit disappointed just
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: because we're like, we're not talking about Genesis anymore. Now
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: we're talking about how does this documentary disprove the theory
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: of evolution? And they start talking about the missing link. And, uh,
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: my mind wanders a little bit just because I'm like,
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: all right, let's get back to the bro. Let's get
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: to the part. What happens in the tent with Noah?
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: Let's talk about lots of wife turning into a pillar
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: of salt after his daughters basically like make a move
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: on him in the middle of the night when he's
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: drunk like let's get into all the rest of genesis
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: we've only got through chapter one so far uh and
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: then they start getting into and by the way they
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: never get in uh to any of those cool things
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: they end at chapter one then someone makes a claim
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: that before the fall before adam and eve That man
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: and animal were all vegetarian. And like, come on, bro. Like,
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: we're seriously just saying things right now. So now we're
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: saying that animals that have claws and canines and sharp
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: teeth and like these systems to process meat. that all
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: of them were vegetarian. And as soon as Adam, what
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: took a bite out of the apple, that it was
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: like American werewolf in London. And like all of the
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: wolves used to be these little vegetarian fluff balls. And
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: then we're just like, it was like, you know, you,
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: you got water on a gremlin after midnight.
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: It introduced crack into the inner cities, right?
• 45:48
  Speaker 4: It reminded me of the claim that people always say like, well,
• 45:52
  Speaker 4: you know, the reason why women have to give birth
• 45:55
  Speaker 4: is because Eve is the one that got Adam to
• 45:57
  Speaker 4: eat that.
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: I'm like, dude, why do we have to come up
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: with these fables like that?
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: And then the other thing they mentioned, aside from all
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: animals were vegetarian until the fall, is that humans were
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: created to live forever, and then something went wrong, and
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: that thing that went wrong was sin. And then it
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: gets into this moral approach, which... If you've ever seen
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: a debate online on YouTube of like, I'm going to
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: prove that, you know, God's real through science. Like they're
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: going through these paces. It goes through the shape of
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: the skulls and it goes into carbon dating. And then
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: it's like, and then this one was that, why do
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: bad things happen to good people? And why do good
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: things happen to bad people? Well, Genesis explains that. It's like, really?
• 46:40
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: Does it like which verse specifically? It's just because Adam
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: ate the apple that Eve gave him. And that explains
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: why good things happen to bad people. And I mean,
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: you're again, we're describing like the what happened, but you're
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: not really saying like why or the house. So because
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: Adam ate an apple from the tree, now all animals
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: on the planet are no longer fully vegetarian. Right. Okay. So, yeah,
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: I forgot that Genesis passed the scientific method.
• 47:10
  Speaker 4: Yeah, why are you even questioning it when you should
• 47:12
  Speaker 4: know by now that we are followers of this, the
• 47:15
  Speaker 4: new Genesis religion where we only read the Genesis Bible.
• 47:19
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• 47:25
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• 47:27
  Speaker 2: And then finally, towards the very end of this documentary.
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: Then they start talking about Jesus. And, like, I'm not anti-Jesus,
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: but I thought this was a documentary talking about the
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: book of Genesis. Tell me what page to open up
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: to where they talk about Jesus in the book of Genesis.
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure that Genesis was created before Jesus existed, right?
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: Or at least, like, took his form on Earth. So
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: it starts completely like overshooting what it intended to do.
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: I feel like if they had reined it in and
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: focused on just the book of Genesis, they might've had
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: me on board, but like now I came away with
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: all kinds of hot takes. Where do we go from here, man?
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: We're talking like overboard moments and hidden shirt. Like what,
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: What is the hidden treasure? Let's start there because I
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: think we've already talked about a bunch of overboard moments.
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: So what's the hidden treasures?
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: Hidden treasure, I guess, would have to be just.
• 48:28
  Speaker 4: I guess having these conversations, it's hard for me to
• 48:31
  Speaker 4: find a hidden treasure with this one because my bias
• 48:33
  Speaker 4: is pretty strong on disliking it.
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: I think they... had cool CGI for a little bit.
• 48:40
  Speaker 4: Like, I guess that's the hidden treasure is like, Hey,
• 48:42
  Speaker 4: a church group was able to fund up enough money, uh.
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: I guess, or have a good backer that they actually
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: had good quality.
• 48:49
  Speaker 4: The production value is decent, right? Like I will say
• 48:52
  Speaker 4: like the lighting and the interviews, like it's very professional.
• 48:55
  Speaker 4: I mean, some of the CGI is not great, but
• 48:57
  Speaker 4: for the most part, I would say production value is
• 48:59
  Speaker 4: really good.
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: I think we're in agreement on this one, man. Like,
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: the hidden treasure is that they got a budget together
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: and found some decent animators to actually make a visually
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: interesting first chapter of Genesis where dark, light, water, earth,
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: all that stuff forms together. I kind of recognize some...
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: of the models and some of like, just to put
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: my nerd credentials out there, I know that they were
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: using speed tree to generate the trees growing out of
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: the ground because the way that the Uh, branches kind
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: of like unfurl like these weird fractal patterns, like classic
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: speed tree. So anyways, uh, that was the hidden treasure,
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: but unfortunately they only do chapter one and then it ends.
• 49:40
  Speaker 2: And then all of the other stuff, it's just a
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: bunch of dudes talking in chairs about things. Um, I,
• 49:45
  Speaker 2: I really love that. dinosaurs and dragons came up, but
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: I don't love that. They didn't really go into it
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: into any interesting depth. It was just like, Oh yeah,
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: people used to, you know, talk in terms of dragons.
• 49:57
  Speaker 2: And now we've got dinosaurs. They're basically the same thing,
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: but they don't actually come out and be like, and
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: dragons were real. They don't say that part, which is
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: what I wanted to hear.
• 50:07
  Speaker 4: What got me, I would think, cause it got me thinking,
• 50:09
  Speaker 4: I won't say like overboard moments.
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: There was a lot, right? Like, obviously I don't like
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: the cut scenes.
• 50:14
  Speaker 4: I didn't like some of the, I didn't like the
• 50:16
  Speaker 4: arrogance of a lot of the interviewers of like, Hey,
• 50:19
  Speaker 4: I know what I'm talking about.
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: You don't, but that happens a lot.
• 50:22
  Speaker 4: But what I thought was the most interesting is they're
• 50:24
  Speaker 4: talking about like the education system and, and it teaching
• 50:28
  Speaker 4: people the wrong stuff.
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: And, not being right and all that.
• 50:32
  Speaker 4: And then I thought, well, you know how most like
• 50:34
  Speaker 4: conspiratorial people would be like, oh, you mean the Rockefeller
• 50:36
  Speaker 4: educational system?
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: So I'm like, well, was Rockefeller a Christian? Turns out
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: he was a Christian. So if we are.
• 50:43
  Speaker 4: Learning a lot of like, it's just kind of like
• 50:45
  Speaker 4: this other bond of where they're like, no, it's either
• 50:48
  Speaker 4: atheist or Christian. And I'm like, well, Rockefeller's a Christian.
• 50:51
  Speaker 4: Why is he a Christian and being forgiven from his sins?
• 50:53
  Speaker 4: And it reminded me of when we, um, we did
• 50:56
  Speaker 4: that comic book, um, documentary where it was a little
• 51:00
  Speaker 4: flip books chick guy.
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: Or what yeah jack chick the chick tracks.
• 51:04
  Speaker 4: Yeah and from that day forward after watching that it
• 51:09
  Speaker 4: got me thinking of like so pretty much there's a
• 51:12
  Speaker 4: big portion of people that believe that you can do
• 51:14
  Speaker 4: the most horrendous things on earth and all you have
• 51:18
  Speaker 4: to do is like well i believe in jesus christ now.
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: Not even that. And you ask for forgiveness, but he
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: just forgives you. And I'm like, no, no, no, man.
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: You still got to be held accountable. Like, oh, yeah,
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: I guess he's good now, bro.
• 51:28
  Speaker 4: Like he was about to go to hell in that
• 51:30
  Speaker 4: last second buzzer beater. And then I'm like, so the Rockefellers,
• 51:35
  Speaker 4: they can still continuously do negative things to the world.
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: But nobody will mention that.
• 51:40
  Speaker 4: And even when they bring up the school system, you're like, OK,
• 51:42
  Speaker 4: so only atheists are running it.
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: No.
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: But what about the Rockefellers?
• 51:46
  Speaker 4: And that kind of stuff, it's not that they needed
• 51:48
  Speaker 4: to explore that, but that's how my brain was thinking
• 51:50
  Speaker 4: because throughout it, they're trying to tell me that they're
• 51:52
  Speaker 4: going to educate me, and I felt like they didn't.
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: I mean, just to make that even more confusing, Rockefeller
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: education system, the original– uh basis for them to usher
• 52:03
  Speaker 2: it in nationally was for the medical institution because you
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: want to be able to trust like if you moved
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: across the country you wanted the doctors talking between the
• 52:13
  Speaker 2: west coast and the east coast to like agree on
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: terminology and treatments and symptoms so part of it was
• 52:19
  Speaker 2: standardizing all these professions but it started in the medical
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: arena And what'll blow your mind is that the Rockefellers
• 52:27
  Speaker 2: that created that system were actually into homeopathy. Like they
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: didn't really necessarily follow modern pharmaceutical science. They were just taking,
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: you know, like pictures and stuff. So, uh, again, like,
• 52:40
  Speaker 2: I don't know the fact that they were quote unquote
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: Christian yet ushering in these like atheistic, um, you know, standpoints. It,
• 52:47
  Speaker 2: the Rockefellers is an interesting concept on its own, like
• 52:50
  Speaker 2: worth a whole different deep dive. But I mean, Ultimately,
• 52:54
  Speaker 2: this documentary, I think the overboard was just that they
• 53:00
  Speaker 2: were supposed to illustrate and animate the book of Genesis,
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: and instead we get dinosaurs and dragons and birds versus
• 53:07
  Speaker 2: apes and... You start talking about Jesus and how Jesus,
• 53:11
  Speaker 2: you know, died for our sins. And like, that's great.
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: All of that. But bro, you guys didn't even match like,
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: you know, the, the entry level homework, which was described
• 53:20
  Speaker 2: Genesis animate Genesis. Don't go talking about Jesus and, and
• 53:25
  Speaker 2: like the missing link before you even did the first
• 53:27
  Speaker 2: thing you were supposed to do.
• 53:29
  Speaker 4: And the missing link part was the best to me.
• 53:31
  Speaker 4: I guess that that would be my.
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: Hidden treasure, but on a different angle, the hidden.
• 53:35
  Speaker 4: Treasure is that like, they're like, maybe you thought differently,
• 53:38
  Speaker 4: but when they're putting the skull over of the missing link,
• 53:40
  Speaker 4: I'm like, I kind of matches up, man.
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: Close enough, bro.
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: Like it was close.
• 53:45
  Speaker 4: It was not like it was, I thought they're going
• 53:47
  Speaker 4: to put the, and it's like, they had to actually
• 53:50
  Speaker 4: cut it in half to show you that the beginning
• 53:53
  Speaker 4: of the skull is flatter. And I'm like, dude, you
• 53:55
  Speaker 4: did not prove me like the jaws kind of lined
• 53:58
  Speaker 4: up the teeth lined up.
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: I'm like, you're doing a horrible job.
• 54:01
  Speaker 4: If you think you're going to convince me, because now
• 54:03
  Speaker 4: I was like, Oh, no, I kind of like think
• 54:05
  Speaker 4: this missing link. I didn't think it before. You did
• 54:07
  Speaker 4: the opposite effect of me. I'm like now, like maybe
• 54:10
  Speaker 4: evolution has some stuff to it.
• 54:18
  Speaker 2: Genesis Paradise Lost Sink or Swim.
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: This film does not deliver.
• 54:23
  Speaker 4: They made a promise that they would be able to
• 54:26
  Speaker 4: show us how science proves Genesis. They did not do that.
• 54:32
  Speaker 4: They failed to do that, and it wasn't even very entertaining,
• 54:35
  Speaker 4: their failure. It wasn't even relatively funny. At least they
• 54:38
  Speaker 4: could have made one of these more 80s, 90s church
• 54:41
  Speaker 4: movies where I could laugh and have more fun at it.
• 54:44
  Speaker 2: It was more boring.
• 54:45
  Speaker 4: It was too long for me. It did not show
• 54:48
  Speaker 4: me anything I didn't know. It was the same old arguments.
• 54:51
  Speaker 4: I give it a big fat sink.
• 54:53
  Speaker 2: You could say they paradise lost you. And I guess, yeah,
• 54:59
  Speaker 2: sink here, too. I mean, the animation was cool. I
• 55:02
  Speaker 2: feel bad for the animators because when they actually saw
• 55:05
  Speaker 2: this documentary, they were like, what? Like, I got underpaid
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: and overworked and they put this voice over my great work.
• 55:13
  Speaker 2: So my heart goes out to you animators. The rest
• 55:16
  Speaker 2: of this, man, they didn't deliver on the entire premise.
• 55:21
  Speaker 2: And going in here, I had a little bit of
• 55:23
  Speaker 2: chip in my shoulder. I'm not anti-Genesis, but I definitely
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: feel like I could be further swayed if you're like,
• 55:29
  Speaker 2: you know what, maybe it is a little bit of poetry.
• 55:31
  Speaker 2: And then you took that approach, but to just straight
• 55:34
  Speaker 2: up be like, it's not poetry. The days were 24 hours.
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: The speed of light was different. So technically the hours
• 55:39
  Speaker 2: and the days kind of don't work the same as
• 55:41
  Speaker 2: they do now. Like it, it just was so sprawling
• 55:46
  Speaker 2: and tried to attack a million things at once. It
• 55:48
  Speaker 2: really just seemed like they got like flustered in the
• 55:52
  Speaker 2: course of making this documentary. And man, like they could
• 55:55
  Speaker 2: have done this in an hour and 20. They didn't
• 55:57
  Speaker 2: need to make this thing like two hours and 20.
• 55:59
  Speaker 2: So sync.
• 56:02
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