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Jeff Bezos’s Key Party · That Car Show

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You'll get there one day, Ryan. I believe in you.
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This week, Lindsay doesn't miss a beat with dispatches from both
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air, water and the exclusive Slate truck launch.
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The end discovers that he's not really a Bronco Raptor guy,
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despite his hairy chest and tough guy demeanor.
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I get Bougie and Boulder with the fuel fed set and we debate
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the car we choose from Hell's own rental counter.
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It's that car show. The kids are all right, and we
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are coming for your forerunners, Eli.
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All right, well, welcome to this week's episode of that car show.
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The Gang is All Here, but I wanted to start off by
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introducing a phrase and a little bit of information.
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In the UK we have a phrase called parish notices.
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What does that mean? Well, that means it's a
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traditional British phrase that's often used to make a few
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announcements before things start.
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So in British tradition, I'm going to start with some parish
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notices and the very first one, yeah, you guys will be using it
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in all the meetings that you go to and it'll be like, what's
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this, become more British it? Beats housekeeping.
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Yeah, it does. It does.
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I love it. All right, let's hear it.
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So yeah, I want to hear why you've used it.
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So firstly, on a serious note, on the 28th of April, the
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legendary engine builder Ed Pink passed away and we just wanted
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to send our respects. I don't think any of us actually
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knew Ed himself, but we were familiar with his work.
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We were aware that he had a, a reputation and was known as the
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old master. I think anyone in life, if you
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get a reputation, you get some sort of, you know, some sort of
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recognition as being called the old master.
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You know that you've, you've really kind of hit your craft
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and, and made it. We didn't know him, but we did
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know the impact of his work. You know, he built engines for
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IndyCar, for Porsche, some of the Kramer engines, Interscope
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engines, and more recently he worked on the Singer, the Singer
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DLS. Is that right?
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Let's get that phrase, the Emory cars, the Emory cars.
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So we send our respects to his family.
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He also passed away at the age of 94.
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So, you know, as we would say in England, a fantastic innings
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referring to cricket. So so that was the first one,
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the second parish notice and I'm going to wear a dog collar next
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week. I think is that we had a lot of
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people on the social medias either give us feedback.
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They shared some of our posts and I just wanted everyone to
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know that that didn't go unnoticed.
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We're incredibly grateful of everyone who, you know, has
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shown, you know, real interest in this podcast really early on.
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So thank you. Please keep going, please, you
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know, continue to subscribe and add comments, reviews, all that
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sort of stuff really helps us. But thank you for everyone so
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far, right? This is where I say Amen.
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Yes, it is and I wanted to say specific thank you to my friend
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Wendy, who's her Instagram is Brit Porsche girl.
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She has been an immediate early supporter and just so genuine
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and I think friend of the show Tori Alonso as well, like
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they've, they've both been immediately on board and genuine
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and very helpful and we appreciate it.
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So you said Wendy, Yes. So Wendy's going to get the
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parish notices straight away without any.
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Right, exactly. And Wendy lives in Sheffield.
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That's perfect. They make watches up there.
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We've heard, I mean, I think we know a guy, right?
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By proxy. So last week was a big week in
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the car world and in particular a new manufacturer came to the
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table and they brought potentially what is going to be
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one of the most revolutionary cars to market to awareness.
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And we were lucky enough that Lindsay was there on site, got
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an invite to the the press launch.
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So, Lindsay, tell us all about Slate Automotive.
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So Slate Automotive, they had their reveal on Thursday night.
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It was at the Long Beach Airport in one of the warehouses there.
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And it was very, you know, cloak and dagger.
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You had to respond with a password to RSVP you.
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Didn't even tell us for the record.
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I didn't tell anybody. I had my dear friend Derek
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Powell. Everybody knows Derek Powell.
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I feel like there needs to be a bell.
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Hey, Derek. When we say Derek Powell, so
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Derek and I knew that we were going.
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He was the only person that I even acknowledged that I was
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going to everybody else found out after.
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So anyway, thrilled to be there. Thrilled to be included.
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Our friend Kat Savile who was at the Peterson included me.
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She was a Tesla. Now she's at Slate and so they
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had their several of their executives, the head of design,
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Tisha Snyder, Jeremy Snyder, who's the CCO and Tisha, I don't
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know that that's her last name now that I think about it,
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because they're not related, so they may have the same last
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name. And I didn't pick up on it, so I
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apologize if that's not the right name, but she's the head
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of design. And it was really fun to see a
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woman speaking. And then their CEO is a woman,
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Chris Barman, and they all spoke about the company and the
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mission and that they want to bring an EV option to the under
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25,000 range of the market because there's a lot of people
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that would be interested. But so far, EVs have been
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inaccessible to them simply because of the cost.
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And so it's under 25,000 after government rebates.
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The trucks are all assembled in the US and they have 4 different
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variations. They have a single cab.
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It's like a short bed pickup truck, but then you can either
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configure it and have Slate assemble it the way that you
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want it, or you can buy the pickup truck itself and buy the
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parts and put it together yourself also, which is an
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interesting concept. Will that still be under
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warranty? So that was part of the
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discussion afterwards with several of my friends who are
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automotive journalists in LA was if you have people that are
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installing it themselves, how does that impact or does it
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impact, can you still claim they have a five star crash rating?
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Like if if you're not the one installing it, you know, where
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does it change to? Well, this was an aftermarket
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part. So that's one of the early
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stage, kind of like, OK, there's definitely some questions that
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people have, but in general, I think everybody loves the idea
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of expanding the accessibility of EVs.
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And this one is particularly cool because it's so versatile.
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There's the single cab pickup truck, then you can add a shell
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on the back and a second row seat and it makes it kind of a
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new Bronco two row SUV, very similar.
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Yes, I said Bronco. What are we 3 minutes in and
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I've already said this week, yeah.
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So I'll be looking out. Then they have another one where
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you can add a second row seat and basically roll bars.
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So it makes it kind of Wrangler esque or you know, new Bronco
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where they make the over landing type.
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Oh, we have a new buzzer this week, I think.
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And then the last one reminded me of either the big Range Rover
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or Range Rover Sport because it has a cab on the back, but it's
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sloping. So it's another two row SUV, but
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the lines are a little more luxury SUV.
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So there's all different configurations you can add, you
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know, different levels of trim. You can buy a design A wrap, you
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can have Slate apply it, you can do it yourself.
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It's a modular sort of taken to the.
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Very modular, yeah. And so you can design it to fit
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your life and what you need. So one of the things that they
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talked about is that, you know, the way they describe it is that
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they're built in the US, assembled in the US.
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And not just the US, but Indiana.
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That's like the extra US, right? Extra America.
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Ultra Ultra America. Exactly.
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So. They say that they are
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manufactured here. One of the points of discussion
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afterwards among the people in attendance was some of the
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parts. The US has not had the
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capability to actually make those parts in 30 years.
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Yeah, but it's anything, right? Right, exactly.
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So it's a little bit semantics because they are being assembled
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here, which is super cool. And you know that like I love to
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see that because obviously hopefully it helps create jobs
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and all of that. I think that's I think that's
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only positive. So it's more like what's, I
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guess you can parse out what your definition of manufactured
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versus assembled. And then, yeah, I mean,
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definitely some early stage questions.
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But their team, I mean, listening to them was really
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inspiring. They all have like several of
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the executives and a lot of the team have EV experience,
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especially at Tesla. So they've been in the space for
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a long time. They've seen an organization
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like that grow, and I think they're applying everything
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they've learned, you know, what to do and what not to do.
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And they just really seemed excited to bring this to the
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market. And it was really, really well
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done. The excitement, you know,
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everybody was very palpable. Some people had seen spy shots.
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They had done a, they dropped one in Venice, CA the week
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before. And again, you know, I'm not
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telling anybody. So I'm like, wait a minute,
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let's go. So I sent it to Derek and I'm
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like, is this what I think it is?
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What's going on here? How big is this thing?
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Like what is this? It's?
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Not big like it's. It's tiny.
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Because it I'm sort of under the impression that's the size of
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like one of the old school Ford Rangers or something, if not the
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new one, I think, but a small I. Think it's in between.
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It's a it's like a light truck size.
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Yeah, OK. Like a Is it Suzuki chimney the
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new one? Not that small, right?
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It's not that small, but it's definitely it's it's yeah, it's
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light truck class. Like it's not a full size pickup
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truck. And I think that is going to be,
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I think that's going to help because it may have a broader
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audience. Not everybody wants to drive a
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full size pickup truck, you know, or doesn't need it
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necessarily. Dan, can you ask our off camera
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assistant when the last car available in the US was where
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you you could opt for roll windows, roll down windows
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versus electric windows? Because I believe that you can
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actually get rolled out in windows.
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That's how functional this. Is on.
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The right. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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I don't remember. Yeah, because like this is very
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much a form follows function vehicle probably more than just
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about anything else we've seen. I think we have a lot of
10:32
vehicles that are designed to look that way, right?
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But this really is, I wouldn't say it's the prettiest thing in
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the world, but I kind of love it for that.
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Right, it's sort of it's like it's so functional, it's cute
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and it's like and the size it's very adorable and it's like the
10:48
little engine that could because it's like I'm here and I'm super
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capable. What's not to love?
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And they it was, they had a great swag bag at the event and
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we got. Was in this swag bag.
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Well, we got. But those of us who weren't it.
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That was part of the mystique, they said in the RSVP forum.
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They said if we were to surprise you with something with like,
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your name or whatever, what would you put on it and what
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size are you? So we got jackets with whatever
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name or phrase or whatever you wanted embroidered on them.
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And then we got slate hats and then a really fun little
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activity book, which my junior car reviewer immediately took.
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And then, yeah. And just there were a lot of,
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you know, who's who of LA Automotive Media, Mark Vaughn,
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who does a radio show and he's running for Auto Week.
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And then Derek Powell, you know, obviously and John and Mira
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Childenko and Jeff Glucker of Universe and Sean Winograd from
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Carn Driver and I think Monder trend maybe and Cat.
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And then, yeah. Fantastic, So.
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What did you learn, Dan? Yeah, I kind of feel like we
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should be paying our researchers and then we're not at the
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minute. So, so let's let's maybe all
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chip together and and tip them a little bit.
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You won't believe the last time. Let's just start with a year.
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So the last car you could buy with roll down windows.
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The car stopped selling in 2023. So up to 2023 you could still
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buy a car with roll down windows.
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It's a car versus a light truck. Well, I mean, it's a Wrangler
12:19
Sport, so it's both, right? OK, OK.
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OK, that's yeah, that makes. Sense, Yeah, OK, interesting.
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OK, so. You could buy a new car 2023
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brand new. Yeah, and an honourable mention
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to the Chevrolet Spark. The base LS trim had manual
12:39
windows, but was discontinued in 2022.
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Have either of you driven a Chevy Spark?
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I have not have you? And those, those stuck around
12:46
way too long. 2022 they were Would you say I?
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Think I would rather walk. Well, no, I that's it.
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That's I think that is a a viable alternative if you've
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ever they're tiny, if you've ever been in a Lotus Elise, if
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you're driving, your shoulder will be next to the shoulder of
13:04
of your passenger. And that's the only other car
13:06
that have ever driven had that experience well.
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Isn't that what they said about the Gordon Murray car though?
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That like they when Dario was driving it like I know Johnny
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said, I thought he had to put his arm around Dario almost to
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sit in the passenger seat. Well.
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That's different. Lindsay Gordon Murray Car I'll
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do whatever. I'll sit in someone's lap at the
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Gordon Murray car, but a Chevy Spark?
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Right. Did you ever think you hear a
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Chevy Spark and a Gordon Murray? Car.
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Not at all. Not at all.
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So, yeah, it was great that you were there, Lindsay.
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And yeah, it's cool. It was cool to to be, you know,
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at the forefront of the action. Happy.
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To represent the team, right? I do have more questions though
13:47
if I may. This is a rear wheel drive only
13:50
vehicle, at least at first. Or can you opt in a front like
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an all-wheel drive module or? So they didn't go into that much
13:58
detail at the launch, but I yeah, so I don't know about that
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specifically. Because I'm thinking, you know,
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rear wheel drive electric truck Donuts, right?
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What's not to love? Yeah.
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You know, and anything about it where you think they missed the
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mark, like was it I, I'm shocked that they kept it the secret
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that they did. Really, for as long as they did.
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Really remarkable because I know it was something certain people
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have known about it for years at this.
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Point. Yeah, so.
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Well, no, I just, I mean, yes, you're absolutely right.
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That's exactly correct. No, I think, I think as they
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start to roll out that may those types of things, you might go,
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oh, they could have done that differently.
14:44
But at least for right now, because it is still, it's not a
14:48
concept like they will be building them, but because it's
14:51
not live yet, everything so far seems like they're like it's
14:58
aligned with what they are trying to deliver.
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And hell of timing with the tariffs, Jeff Bezos.
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Yeah, it's. Probably a conversation there
15:07
for a. Few the man can build a rocket
15:10
and launch a car, huh? And that's political as we're
15:13
going to get. It reminds me like if if IKEA
15:18
made cars. Yeah, it's that idea.
15:20
It was like you, you take only what you need and you can.
15:24
Basically. Heavily configurable to whatever
15:27
your purpose is. I mean, that part of it is
15:30
incredible because there's so many people that have different
15:33
needs and jobs and to find something that you can customize
15:37
exactly for what you want, That's the only vehicle like
15:40
that new right now without having to do a bunch of work.
15:43
I think they're great. I'd love to have them as a third
15:45
car, go to the hardware store and all that kind of stuff.
15:47
You don't, you know, I don't want to throw a bag of mulch
15:49
into the Porsche or the Pole Star, but you know.
15:51
Yeah, yeah. Well, and I just.
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Ran the slate. We talked so much about, you
15:55
know, re bodying when Logan was on and how much that happened.
15:58
And I'm sure you could do a version of re bodying with the
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slate like so. This might be the new coach,
16:06
Bill. Wouldn't even have to be a
16:07
truck, right? No, like you could decide for
16:11
whatever reason I don't need the pickup truck right now or maybe
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go back and forth. Yeah, and that would mean that
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Ryan would have to update his article about convertible
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electrics, maybe. The master of the of the Segway.
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There we go. I got it in there.
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Are we getting? Is it $10 per?
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I mentioned the fact that he's a published writer.
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Is that how this is going to work?
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Yeah, Yeah, yeah, yeah. Make it if you if you speak it,
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it's so right. Here we go.
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I. Think that works?
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That works. Manifesting Baby.
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Now in Denver, I think there was a launch, is that right, Ryan?
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You attended the launch of it was a kick off?
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Was it fuel fed kick off? Oh yeah, yeah, good link.
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I then go bad link, right. I love Colorado.
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Not a whole lot of new car, you know, launches here though
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apparently I I know Slate Motors was like Denver, LA.
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Denver, LA. Hotly contested debate about.
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Yeah, You know how much I love Fuel Fed and Fuel Feds is is is
17:13
this group that I, I've been a member of since I was the very
17:15
beginning back in Chicago. And now they have a an arm down
17:19
in Fort Lauderdale. And then Mike Burroughs started
17:21
up fuel fed Boulder out here a few years ago.
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And for for a group that's still kind of under the radar, it was
17:30
a huge, huge turn out. We had a beautiful day.
17:34
I think this was the first year that they did this with the
17:36
blessing of the city, right? Lesson learned.
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If you want to do something, don't ask for permission, right?
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If you want to build that addition to your house, you
17:45
start building and then you, well, now we're building it.
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You can't tell us to stop now. And that's kind of what they
17:49
did, right? Obviously, this is a much more
17:52
benign, sort of, you know, benefit beneficial sort of
17:55
event. But but yeah, sure enough, they,
17:57
they, they had the official barricades and, and a couple
18:01
streets open much more room. And the cars that show up are,
18:04
are just incredible. Obviously there's some good,
18:08
some good money in Boulder, right.
18:10
But also the enthusiast scene is, is, is incredible.
18:13
And, and, and just, it's always, it's always amazing what rolls
18:16
up and just seeing, you know, all the, the friends and, and
18:20
folks you haven't seen all winter.
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It was just great. It was great.
18:24
I I only wished I'd had stickers to hand out for that car show.
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This didn't arrive till today. If you want one slide into our
18:32
DMS, I guess, and we will send some off or just find us at the
18:37
next fuel fed event or Crystal Cove or exotics right in in
18:44
Seattle. So, but to bring it back to fuel
18:46
fed, just a great event if you're in Colorado.
18:48
I mean, it's worth the drive. It's I think once a month now
18:52
through fall on Pearl Street and in Boulder.
18:56
And it was just, I mean, just fantastic.
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There was a, a Testarossa next to a TR, right, a 512 TR.
19:02
So I've never been able to sort of compare and contrast, you
19:06
know, and especially in real life.
19:08
With your own? Yeah, in person.
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Yeah, yeah, it's and you realize, Oh yeah, there's some
19:12
significant differences, right? Like the the engine cover in the
19:16
back is painted black on the 512 TR and it's also about half the
19:19
height. You don't pick up on that stuff.
19:21
Scene 1. You know in isolation, right?
19:23
The lights at the front, the lights are different, aren't
19:25
they? That's the lights are different
19:27
pop up to glass. Perspective.
19:29
Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then there was what was that
19:31
final 512 TR that had the twist wheels and everything.
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It was the really special one. I I don't know what that.
19:36
Was it? Was the M that's what it was.
19:39
That's what it was. So maybe next fuel fed there
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will be one of those and you can see them all, but just stuff you
19:44
just don't see anywhere else. You know, got a buddy who
19:48
brought his his Lotus Elite, right?
19:51
Just I don't know that's where you'll see an Ariel Adam or, you
19:55
know, a random vintage Bugatti. You know, may or may not be
19:58
drifted for Logan, but you know, it's just.
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It's an elite group. You know, you know, it's one of
20:06
the special events that hasn't been commercialized, right?
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You know, it's, it's, you know, it's still fun.
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You know, it's a mature group. No one's ripping out of the, you
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know, the lot. At the end of the day, it's just
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it's just a great group of like minded people there.
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There are people, they're that car show people, right?
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If you if you follow so. Speaking of kudos car show
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people, you also bumped into a friend of Lindsay and mine,
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right? Oh yeah?
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Well, a couple of them, but I think you're referring to Eric.
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Eric, right? Eric from Dream Drives for Kids.
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He had the shirt on and everything and he recognized me.
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I put two and two together with the shirt and he and his wife is
20:47
Amity. Is Amity I think.
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Yeah, lovely people. Really, really cool people.
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Yeah, I love. That Yeah, yeah.
20:53
It's such a small world sometimes, and it.
20:55
Really is. They went on and on about you,
20:58
Dan and, and, and how much you've helped them with their
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fundraising and all that. You're too modest.
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So, well, I didn't even know the half of that.
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But Lindsay was there as well. I think Lindsay actually was one
21:07
of the few that bid when I was. I kept my hand in my pocket.
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Well, the funny part was there were, yeah, there were a few
21:14
things that really kind of hit home for me.
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And, you know, especially they had the one where you could just
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bid to put together the boxes that they give the kids and get
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to go do the tours. And I had my daughter with me at
21:26
that event, and she started getting into it.
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She's like, Mama, I want you to have this auction item.
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We got a bit. Yeah, yeah, Yeah, it was.
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Prompted some interesting discussions about fiscal
21:38
responsibility versus charity versus, you know, what's the
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happy medium and also helping people.
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And auctions are dangerous. Well, no.
21:45
Say it goes to a good cause. The one that really caught my
21:48
attention was the photo shoot for your car and I bid on it and
21:51
then I immediately got outbid, which is what you hope, right?
21:54
Because. They're raising more money and
21:56
but then my daughter said, no, I really want you to have it.
21:58
And she kept trying to raise her hand.
22:03
It's a little bit. About the actual charity
22:06
because? You'd be the best one to do
22:08
that, I think. So I mean, Lindsay could
22:10
obviously do it as well, but so Eric has been very fortunate
22:16
enough to collect a large number of fantastic cars, but he made a
22:21
decision to do something with them as opposed to just showing
22:24
them off the cars and coffee or, you know, taking them for
22:26
drives. So we got in touch with local
22:30
hospitals in his area and, and basically said if there are
22:33
children that are on a journey of, of sickness, so, you know,
22:37
they're either fighting something terminal or long term,
22:41
he wanted to put a smile on their faces.
22:44
So he would turn up with one of his supercars and take the kid
22:48
out for the day in the supercar. And the, the, the auction item
22:53
that we're referring to is that at the end of this experience,
22:56
the child gets a replica of that car as something to kind of
23:00
keep, keep them motivated, keep them thinking.
23:02
And, you know, he's gone beyond that now.
23:04
He's signed partnerships. We were help, we helped sort of
23:08
sort out the partnership in Redmond, Lindsay and I.
23:10
But there's partnerships all over the US now.
23:12
And it's only getting bigger. They went to some Porsche racing
23:16
at Kota with Patrick Dempsey and he's now supporting the charity.
23:19
So yeah, dream join kids. And my friend, my friend Andrew
23:24
Florin, who puts together the Ollie and Bob cars and coffee in
23:26
Santa Monica, is connected with Children's Hospital in LA.
23:30
So he and Eric are now connected.
23:32
And we're building that. We they are building that one
23:34
out. So that's going to be amazing.
23:36
But it's, yeah, it reminded me, you know, listening to Eric and
23:41
Amity talk about all the kids that they've met and, and we
23:43
all, you know, you can imagine the impact that has not only on
23:47
the child, but the whole family is impacted, especially if
23:50
they're siblings too. It just changes everyone's
23:52
lives. And it reminded me, the school
23:56
that I've driven with up here, Performance Racing school, they
23:59
used to take a team to Daytona and do the 24 hour circuit,
24:04
Daytona Lamar. And so when my daughter was a
24:08
year old, we went to the Daytona 24.
24:11
And I remember standing there because they raised money for
24:13
children's for Seattle Children's Hospital and the
24:16
cardiac care unit. And it hit me, you know, I'm
24:19
incredibly lucky that my daughter's healthy.
24:21
But people donate. I think you, you get involved if
24:25
you've experienced something like that with your child or if
24:28
you realize how lucky you are that your child is healthy, you
24:30
donate to help the families that have are dealing with these
24:33
situations. So it's, I love the work that
24:36
they do. Yeah.
24:37
Can you imagine, you know, if you're a kid and you're sick
24:40
and, and that comes into your life?
24:42
I mean, it would just, I think it would just, it would be
24:45
healing, right? I mean, it would be, it would
24:47
just, it would just change everything.
24:49
You know, it's, it's just and they're lovely people and just a
24:52
great organization and, and yeah, so need to finally meet
24:56
them. Yeah.
24:58
That's more fun. Small world when it comes to
25:01
good car people, right? That's true.
25:03
There was some other, I think chance meetings though, over the
25:06
last week, if I'm not mistaken. I want to hear about Air Water,
25:10
Lindsey too. But but you ran into our pal Dan
25:12
Mcinnis. I did.
25:14
I was going to say there was a lot of like cross pollination,
25:17
Pacific Northwest, California. Yeah, yeah, everybody was in the
25:21
wrong. Yeah.
25:23
Bermuda Triangle going yeah, don't we?
25:25
It's. I know.
25:26
Well, I mean, I've said it before, you know, Crystal Cove
25:28
is my favorite spot in the whole world.
25:30
I was very lucky to grow up there in my detective trailer on
25:33
the beach and then. We need a theme song whenever
25:37
that gets mentioned, right? Yeah.
25:40
Yeah. And so, you know, I had the
25:43
unique luck to be able to walk up the hill and cross PCH to one
25:49
of the original cars and coffees in Southern California or one of
25:54
the bigger ones that then went to the Ford headquarters.
25:56
But Crystal. And so the shopping center is
25:59
kind of that's what's left as far as places I can go there.
26:03
And there's no formal cars and coffee there anymore.
26:06
But it's an amazing car show any day of the week, anytime.
26:10
And then I was there Friday afternoon and, you know, it's
26:13
just unbelievable. There's a Super 90 like pulled
26:16
in, and there's a Porsche Super 90 Speedster next to a like 65
26:21
convertible Mustang and then an Urus and all kinds of stuff.
26:27
But yes, so I got a cup of coffee and I'm walking out and I
26:31
hear my name and I think, what's this?
26:33
And it's Dan McGinnis, of course.
26:36
And he was with our our friend John Nasser as well, I think
26:39
right it. Was a whole crew.
26:40
There were two Johns and then David Reichman, who's.
26:44
Wonderful and so much. Fun.
26:46
He's got a gorgeous. It was his speedster.
26:48
I didn't know that. OK.
26:49
But I had seen in the parking lot.
26:50
It was so funny because Dan said, you know, we connected.
26:54
And then he said, yeah, And she's on the podcast with Ryan.
26:56
And everybody perked up. Well, I know, Ryan, wait a
27:00
minute. Yeah, you're being kind.
27:02
But it's funny because I was walking the dog here in the
27:05
neighborhood. I guess it was probably a few
27:07
days before that. And who did I see but John
27:09
Nasser walking down the street? And John, you don't live
27:12
anywhere near here. He said, well, I just, I went, I
27:15
went to to go up to this place up the street.
27:16
It's an ice cream shop. And he's going to walk back to
27:18
his house. It's like 2 miles.
27:22
It's like these guys get around, you know, that's so fun.
27:25
Get out more. But now I love those guys.
27:26
David's a neat guy, too. And.
27:28
Yeah, I ended up talking to him for a bit at Auto Kennel.
27:32
OK, the morning after Air water. Excuse me, but it was so funny
27:37
once I saw Dan. Then I realized because I'd been
27:40
going South on PCH coming up to Newport Coast Road or yeah,
27:46
Newport Coast Road, which is a really fun driving Rd.
27:48
That's where I took the Gunther Works Speedster, one of the
27:51
first places. It's big sweeping turns and just
27:54
amazing. Wait, we're playing that now for
27:56
the Gunther works? I just felt like playing it,
27:58
yeah. You got to hold it closer to the
28:00
mic. We need the full impact.
28:01
I have the the. Voice of the audience, you see.
28:04
Right, like. There we go, There we go.
28:07
Like, we get it, you got to drive the Gunther.
28:08
Works, yeah. So anyway, I had been driving
28:11
South on PCH and I saw the screen Porsche turn from Newport
28:16
Coast onto PCH, but it was far enough.
28:18
Yeah. And then as soon as I saw Dan,
28:20
I'm like, I saw Dan like an hour ago.
28:23
I didn't. And that guy, this car, everyone
28:26
takes a picture of his car. I know.
28:28
So anytime he's anywhere, I turn on Instagram, I turn on
28:30
Instagram, I open Instagram. I guess you could flip the
28:33
switch to Instagram. Yeah, yeah.
28:35
And his car is everywhere, right?
28:37
You know, he always, he always makes the Instagram reels.
28:40
He's got 100,000 now, hasn't he? 99 just turned over 90, but
28:46
yeah. Super.
28:47
He's been to like Denver and back since then.
28:50
He came, yeah. He left.
28:51
He went back Saturday. Yeah, I think he sent.
28:54
Me, a picture from the road right and it was 9009.
28:57
Wow. Or I'm sorry, 90,000 and nine.
28:59
It's not quite. So funny boobs.
29:02
Upside down or whatever, but it's, you know, it's it's.
29:04
Not quite a Helen. It's pretty impressive.
29:06
Well, and Dan and I mean, that's what's so insane is that I, you
29:10
know, my official address is Seattle, Dan's is Colorado.
29:14
And we run into each other at Crystal Cove regularly.
29:17
Yeah, I don't know what you do with that, but I'm.
29:20
Some people have it figured out I think, and I'm still working
29:24
on it myself. So another event that was taking
29:27
place in Southern California last weekend started with a damp
29:31
outlook, didn't it? The the air water started with
29:33
more water. What was going on?
29:35
Yeah, everybody was was calling it like, OK, when you know, it's
29:39
just water, water. This time it was, it was cool in
29:43
the morning and then it started spitting and it was like, all
29:47
right, well, and then just real downpour.
29:50
So it definitely, you know, drove people inside.
29:53
The nice thing about the fairgrounds is that it's a mix
29:56
of interior and exterior. So especially the, you know,
30:00
broad arrows, the auction partner and they have a big
30:02
auction room where they hold it. So you could get in there and
30:05
and stay dry, be comfortable. And I actually got to go to the
30:10
auction preview on Friday and just check everything out, which
30:12
was nice because it's it's quieter, there's fewer people
30:15
and you can really see the cars and like, I got to catch up with
30:19
some of the Broad Arrow and Haggerty people.
30:22
And yeah, I mean, it was a good mix this year.
30:25
They had a real nine O 6, which was one of the cars that was
30:28
featured in Ford versus Ferrari. And but my favorite, favorite
30:33
was an 87 dark blue turbo with like a marine and beige leather
30:38
interior. Wow, I could not get enough of
30:41
this car and I thought yeah it was non metallic.
30:44
So is this a 3.6 or something? Is this like a really special
30:48
that's I? Think it was just a regular
30:50
turbo. I mean, those are special,
30:53
obviously. But 3.6 would have been later I
30:54
guess 964 but. Yeah, it was.
30:57
I mean, I just like, it kept drawing me back to it.
31:00
Like I'd go to walk away and I'd realize I had walked back to
31:02
this car. I mean, it was just stunning,
31:04
but that, that. Turned about the car, the color.
31:07
Was it the? Color was what drew me in and
31:10
then yeah, I mean it was the the dark blue and it was a non
31:14
metallic blue. Oh, interesting.
31:16
So there and then the next day at auto kennel there was a 996
31:21
dark blue turbo. So that was the energy of my
31:24
weekend was flat, you know, non metallic Navy turbos, I guess.
31:30
But yeah, just it's just such a beautiful body style.
31:34
It was very like it was a color still, but it was understated
31:39
and it just like it really spoke to me.
31:42
I mean, it seemed like you could just sort of be under the radar.
31:46
It's very car enthusiastic. You know, you could just drive
31:50
it and you could kind of, you could get attention if you
31:53
wanted to, but you could also just.
31:55
If you know, you know. Yeah, exactly.
31:57
Yeah, It was a good mix of that, Yeah.
32:00
And then they had a yellow GT4RS, which was beautiful.
32:03
They had a silver Carrera GT. You know, those are always
32:06
stunning to see. Another favorite was, I don't
32:10
know if you remember a few years ago, Porsche redid one of the
32:13
Carrera GTS like took it down to the metal, took everything apart
32:17
and redid it so that it was as if they had built it, you know,
32:22
like 3 or 4 years ago. But it would be and they
32:25
finished it in this color. That is it's a little, it's a,
32:30
it's slightly less bright than like a Miami or Mexico blue.
32:33
They called it Speedster blue and it was very like it was all
32:38
over, you know, social media at the time.
32:40
Broad Arrow auctioned it then, but it was actually there too.
32:43
It's up for sale again. So I got to see it again.
32:46
It's just familiar. Now this is coming back to me.
32:48
Yeah, yeah, it's it was a unique story.
32:52
They had a 911 E, which is like that's kind of a cool story.
32:55
They had a roof and then I don't know if you remember the story
32:59
of that. I think it was a Speedster that
33:00
Jerry Seinfeld had bought that turned out to have some, you
33:03
know, it was the Franken car, the Oratio Green.
33:05
So they had an O1 Oratio Green Carrera 4 with that's what was
33:11
interesting this time is a lot of the cars in the auction had
33:13
really unique interiors, so it was fun.
33:17
There's a theme here, yeah, picked up on that at Retromobile
33:20
and. Right.
33:21
It was like a little more visual interest.
33:24
You know, there was one really beautiful red 911 and it had the
33:28
interior was a mix of this like red and black houndstooth and
33:31
then tan leather, which was a really interesting combination.
33:34
You know, drew in the red from outside and this Erasium green
33:38
one had this beautiful green and blue Plaid interior.
33:41
So it was just a lot of interest when you got up to the cars too,
33:45
then it drew you in even further.
33:47
Didn't Porsche just announce that they're bringing Pasha back
33:50
is like a standard option? It's an extra, it's not
33:54
standard. It's an extra, but sure, right?
33:56
But it's not. Available I.
33:57
Think it's like $8000 or something isn't it?
34:00
You know, worth it. By the way, when I saw Eric and
34:03
Amity, she had a shirt on a blouse that was was Pasha.
34:07
And it took me a second to realize like, Oh my God, that's
34:09
I. Know what that is?
34:11
Yeah, Sly, Sly, Yeah. You staring at her blouse for 5
34:15
minutes trying to work it out right.
34:18
I was going to say I was looking eye to eye for 5 minutes and
34:20
then I happened to, you know. There we go, there we go.
34:24
The Did the general consensus to the auction?
34:27
Was it successful? Did most cars sell?
34:30
I don't. I haven't.
34:31
Seen you buy? Actually, yeah.
34:33
What did you buy? No, I mean, I was sorely
34:36
tempted, but. Oh.
34:37
But what I was going to say was it was fun to go to the preview
34:39
on Friday and then get to walk around the grounds a little bit
34:42
too, because they had a 935 that was in one of their, you know,
34:45
their iconic kind of platform displays.
34:48
And they also had the AO Racing, Rexy and Roxy dinosaur Porsches,
34:53
which are those are my daughter's favorite.
34:54
We let go. So I got to see those up close
34:57
before the event. And yeah, I mean, it was fun.
35:00
Well, you know, you know, got to see Trent Abbott, which is
35:03
always a treat, Like he's hilarious.
35:05
And then Paul Kramer was there. Matt Farah.
35:08
So Saturday it was nice in the morning.
35:10
I got there really early and then started to rain.
35:13
But before it started raining, we got to see Matt Ferris, Sarah
35:16
Trimble, and then Peter Brotman, who is a friend of mine that I
35:20
saw at Retro Mobile. So that was really fun and he
35:23
was just about to go on the Calmile, so he's.
35:25
Gonna have yeah from the grand so.
35:27
Yeah, yeah, he's awesome. He's his mirror is my daughter's
35:31
favorite car, so it's a good car.
35:33
Well, because, yeah, I mean, it's almost like the people are
35:35
the best part, right? Like with anything, right?
35:37
Right. It's it's the cars are just the.
35:39
Well, and with the rain, it's sort of illustrated that even
35:42
more because like, it dampened it a little bit in the sense of
35:46
you couldn't just move freely. You had to be a little more
35:48
strategic. But it also didn't really
35:51
because you're running into people.
35:52
You know, I saw Dan McGinnis again, we had talked about it.
35:55
He was going to be there. But my two favorite cars that
35:59
they are, I should say, 4, two favorite displays.
36:02
They had two of the GT3 RR, the Ren Sport version that they
36:07
debuted at the last Ren Sport at Laguna Seca.
36:10
So they had two of those. One was full carbon and one was
36:13
this really beautiful blue, you know, graphic livery gorgeous.
36:18
And then on the other side of the wall they had a liquid
36:21
cooled car. And then have you heard of the
36:23
artist? It's Joshua Vitas and he does
36:25
the black, it's a white background and then black like
36:29
it makes, he makes the cars look like drawings.
36:32
Like a cartoon car. Yeah, yeah.
36:34
And. We had one of his cars there,
36:36
and I had seen, you know, pictures and articles, like
36:38
Derek Powell wrote an article about them, and it's the videos
36:43
I'd seen. You know, you see somebody get
36:44
in and they start to drive it, and it's like an optical
36:47
illusion. You're having to tell yourself
36:49
it's a real car because of the effect and the impact it has.
36:52
So they had one of those and it was really cool.
36:54
Very cool. So cool.
36:56
So air, water, is this, is this like, is this something that you
36:59
feel like you need to go to every year?
37:01
Is this like, you know, because you can only do so many things
37:04
each year, right? Is this?
37:07
I think it is because it's one of the few that's actually in
37:11
Orange County and you know, I've known some of the people on the
37:15
team over the years. And so that was I want to go and
37:18
support my friends obviously. And you know, in the Broad Arrow
37:23
and the Haggerty team, I know a lot of that team as well.
37:25
So it's also, again, going back to the people, like it's a good
37:28
way to see a bunch of people that are not normally in the
37:30
same place all together and catch up, which is really nice.
37:35
But yeah, I mean, it's really nice because a lot of the events
37:38
do take place in LA, which is still accessible for me.
37:41
But it's much more of a drive, like to be able to go 15 minutes
37:44
down the road and be at this one, you know?
37:47
And I went last year with my parents and my daughter and we
37:50
had a great time. And I think that speaks to the
37:53
event because my parents Focus is more Ford and Shelby.
37:57
And they left and they said that was delightful.
38:00
Like it was really fun. They put together good displays
38:02
and and the people. And I like the new stuff too.
38:05
Like, you know, I like the old stuff, but I also like the new
38:08
stuff, Right. Yeah, it's, it's what I buy,
38:11
right? Well, and they had what was cool
38:13
this year, and I don't remember if they had this last year, but
38:17
they had a Myers Manx display in the mix, which was really fun
38:22
and they had all right, did you get there you go.
38:25
I had yes. Magazine here.
38:26
Yeah, which is not out of aunts. Well, and that was a recreation
38:29
of a magazine cover from the 80s.
38:31
That really that photo? It was a Carmen Ghia.
38:35
If you can't, yeah, if you're not watching the video,
38:38
apparently very few of you do. I'm sorry about last week where
38:41
there wasn't a video, but there is.
38:42
It's the latest of Aunts magazine and there's like a guy
38:45
in a BMX bike, I don't know, about 12 feet up in the air,
38:48
flying over a Myers Manx with a man and then Myers Manx who
38:52
looks as amazed as he just afraid.
38:56
But it's a great thing. Cool mix.
38:57
Great photography, isn't it? Yeah, it really is.
39:00
It really is. Yeah.
39:01
So that one, you know, Ryan, you got to go to Bassem's book
39:03
launch with Myers Manx. And so it's again, I mean, we
39:07
always say the car world is so connected people wise and even
39:09
all the vehicles are so connected.
39:10
So they had they had their bus, which was also featured in Ford
39:14
versus Ferrari in the background.
39:16
And then they had three Manx. One had a radial engine, one had
39:20
the four Cam Porsche engine, and then one had the VW.
39:22
Cool, cool. And yeah, I mean, it's so fun.
39:25
I got to meet Mike from Manx and then Matt was there and he's
39:28
getting his radial. And so then he came over and
39:32
yeah, we got to see. His little story.
39:35
Yeah. And we got to see his spec and
39:37
it's it's in process. So yeah, it was just really fun.
39:41
You just realize how important sound is in a car, right?
39:45
And I just can't imagine what that sound right behind your
39:48
head must be like, right? I mean, you're like, you know, a
39:50
Red Baron or something. I don't know.
39:52
It's. I know that engine in a vehicle
39:55
that light, Yeah. I mean, it's got to be a hell of
39:57
an experience. For sure, absolutely.
39:59
Should I bring us back to reality for a little while?
40:03
We. Have to kind of.
40:05
Have to, I think it's, you know, we get all these great
40:06
experiences, but also our audience, but they, they want
40:09
advice, they want insights. They do, and they came here.
40:13
Right. I mean, I guess.
40:15
Our heads are in the clouds. Come.
40:17
On a last chance saloon, that's that's the car show.
40:22
So I had a dilemma this week. I was down in LA for business
40:26
meetings and I got to the rental car lot and I want to know what
40:31
you guys would do. I'll explain my process
40:33
afterwards, but. You get to.
40:35
The rental car lot, yeah, yeah, you get to the rental car lot
40:38
and they say right here is your row and you can pick any car
40:42
from the row. And the row was right near the
40:46
front, so it means it wasn't a great row.
40:49
These are the soccer cars. Immediately.
40:51
No, I'm lucky when. It's really how we all
40:54
understood. Yeah, yeah.
40:56
But. It was like.
40:57
To me and said, yeah, just yeah. And it was like, no walk at all,
40:59
right? But the road consisted of a few
41:03
cars. And I'll name them and tell me
41:06
like, which would you pick? What's what's the one that
41:08
really, you know, you would go for and maybe even fight someone
41:11
else with their luggage? Trying to get the president's
41:13
circle. OK, this is a.
41:15
Car cage match going. On I thought my Rd.
41:19
Maybe we can make the next UFC millions out of that.
41:21
Right. So the cars were, and I say
41:24
cars, they're kind of more like mini SUVs.
41:26
The Hyundai Kona, OK, The Chevrolet Equinox.
41:33
Oh, no, yeah. Yeah, Ryan has a story about
41:36
that. The Jeep.
41:37
Compass, Yeah. Also no.
41:40
The Kia Sportage, Yeah, that's. That sounded better in this in
41:45
this group sounds. Like cheese?
41:47
Let's go. Yeah.
41:48
From us. Let's go.
41:49
The Ford Escape or the Nissan? Rogue.
41:54
Oh man, that is like a what was the last one?
41:57
A Rogue A. Nissan Rogue.
41:59
It was like a Rogue's gallery, right?
42:01
Yeah, this is. This is.
42:03
Rogues Gallery. It's like.
42:06
This is. The one time ever it's.
42:08
Like, careful here, right? Because two weeks before I went
42:11
to Enterprise and I'd use points and I'd booked myself a Corvette
42:15
and I ended up driving off the parking lot in a brand new 911.
42:18
So just Enterprise are great. Just this week I was on a
42:21
budget. Right.
42:23
Well, yeah, sometimes you hit it and sometimes you don't.
42:26
I will say I was just talking to someone who has a Kona and had
42:31
had an EV before that and was raving about it, she said.
42:35
For what it is, it's very simple.
42:37
It gets me around. It charges quickly, it's
42:40
comfortable, you know it's it does a good job.
42:44
I do the Kona in that group too. Yeah.
42:46
Have you? Ever.
42:46
Driven it, but I've driven every other one of those.
42:49
It's by process of elimination, Kona, it is.
42:54
Yeah, are you? I know as well, Lindsay.
42:56
I would, I would take the Kona. I did have a Jeep Compass.
43:00
I mean, in 2015 as a rental car and I had a little bit of AI
43:06
think I have a soft spot because I had a little bit of a final
43:08
destination moment in that car where traffic suddenly came to a
43:13
stop and I looked in the rearview mirror and there was a
43:15
semi fishtailing towards me from behind.
43:18
And I was able to get myself out of it.
43:21
So the compass, you know, did its job.
43:24
Yeah, OK. Yeah.
43:27
So so would you go for the compass or would you go for?
43:30
I think I would go for the Kona because I would want to try
43:32
something new. Interesting.
43:33
Do you want to break down while each one of those models is
43:35
awful? Well.
43:37
I don't think we've got enough time on the podcast, Daphne, but
43:41
let me explain my process. Yeah, what was your what?
43:43
Did you? Yeah.
43:44
So how did this how did this all shake out?
43:46
Well I I landed in LA and it's sunny it is.
43:51
As I'm walking along the line, the first thing I'm looking for
43:53
is a sunroof. I actually don't care what
43:55
badges on the front sunroof and none of them had a sunroof.
44:00
OK, so I'm like so immediately. Fresh off the 9/11.
44:06
Yeah, fresh off the 9/11, which was convertible.
44:08
Yeah. Immediately I rolled out the
44:10
Equinox. I don't know why.
44:11
It just does not appeal to me. Maybe I'm a brand snob, I don't
44:15
know. But like that was straight out
44:17
the window. So then the Ford Escape.
44:20
I've got friends of a big engine problems with their Ford Escape.
44:22
So I was like, no. I take.
44:25
I'd actually take the Equinox over the escape at this point.
44:28
Yeah. I just haven't seen one of the
44:30
current Gen. Like I drove one of the first
44:32
generations for a bit and I used to joke that it was made of
44:35
Legos and I love Legos, but. Yeah, those first generation
44:39
ones were kind of cool, the boxy ones.
44:41
But now they're just like they're they're.
44:42
Like they were just. Super like the dead like there.
44:45
Wasn't a whole lot to it, you know, not no pickup.
44:47
You're talking escape? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
44:51
Not much escape in the escape. I once took one of those first
44:54
generations off roading and it ripped off the whole underbody
44:57
and I returned it and no one was the wiser.
45:00
So I don't know if I'd do that in the new escape, though that's
45:03
a little too. Statue.
45:04
Crossover than I. Mean you're well.
45:07
That was like 2004, right? Maybe earlier, yeah.
45:11
Was it? Back to the.
45:13
Yeah. Was it an escape we took to
45:14
Pike's Peak? No, that was an edge.
45:17
That was an edge, edge, edge that made a terrible car in this
45:21
company. Yeah, that's yeah.
45:22
The edges are good. Yeah, so the Equinox was out,
45:25
the Escape was out, the Sportage was out.
45:29
I'd had Rogues before and I thought, what's going to be the
45:33
most comfortable to sleep in? And it's got to be.
45:38
The country, we need our own numbers, but I went for the I
45:44
went for the Jeep just because, you know, it's, it's a known
45:47
quantity, it's relatively comfortable, right, you know.
45:51
Those aren't terrible. Yeah, it was a amount of space.
45:57
Yeah, it did the job great. These are like, these are like
46:00
threes, right? For cars, though, all of them,
46:03
right? Yeah, it was.
46:04
Like a row 3. It's like better than slightly
46:07
better than nothing. It wasn't plain strains and
46:09
automobiles and you couldn't get a rental car.
46:10
He's like, I'll take a Datsun, I'll take a a Toyota, I'll take
46:13
a a Ford, I'll take anything, right?
46:15
I mean, that's these are those cars, right?
46:17
Yeah. Just need to get somewhere.
46:20
Yeah. Your case a very important
46:21
business meeting. A really important business
46:23
meeting. But yeah, so there's no wrong
46:25
answer, right? I mean, everything is getting
46:27
you for A to B these days. Modern cars are good, but.
46:31
Yeah, but it is, yeah. I mean, it's always interesting.
46:34
Like sometimes you really hit it like with your 911 and sometimes
46:38
you don't with the rental cars. I mean, I had one, yeah, a
46:41
couple years ago in Monterey, I was chatting with the rental,
46:44
with the counter agent. Oh, I see.
46:46
Are you the cutest rental travel agent in the world?
46:50
I bet you get that all the time, but I got I ended up getting a
46:54
brand new forerunner with only. Nine Wow, there we.
46:57
Go nice. I have yet to get a Forerunner
46:59
from a rental counter. Well, and then when I went back
47:02
for Rentsport that year, the guy was still there and I thanked
47:05
him. I said it was so, you know,
47:06
really made the week and he's like, well, I don't have that
47:08
one, but I do have another one. Would you like it again?
47:11
Yes, I was. Nice, this one's a TRD pro.
47:15
Right, she'll, she'll work her magic and.
47:19
Chat right? This is why we all need to
47:21
travel together. Yeah, Eli at the Hertz counter
47:23
in. Modern Eli.
47:24
What's API? You know Eli probably listening
47:28
so. Right, obviously.
47:29
So I had to say hi. He's manager now, yeah.
47:31
He's got all she got. Fired after slipping these
47:35
forerunners to all the pretty ladies.
47:38
You know that's custom the rental company, right?
47:41
Yeah, shoot, man. That's a good time.
47:44
Yeah. Rental cars.
47:45
It's a weird lottery. Well, if you've flown into
47:47
Monterey, like for car week, it's a tiny airport, right?
47:50
Like, you know, it'd be that's it's in, in notoriously bad
47:54
rental cars because they're just like, yeah, beaten to crap.
47:58
And, you know, yeah, that's well.
48:00
I think they. Threes.
48:02
It's a fleet. I think they step it up for car
48:04
week because I was. Walking down.
48:05
Not for me. They had there was a Maserati.
48:09
Oh, there was. There was, yeah.
48:11
And there were. I actually think that Eli was
48:15
showing Lindsay a different part of the parking lot to where we
48:18
went. Yeah, that was just somebody's
48:19
car. No.
48:24
You Yeah, I think we got the budget end of the car park,
48:26
right, Right. Yeah.
48:28
Car rentals. What can you do?
48:30
It's I've got an English phrase when I go to my check in at the
48:34
car rental and I just say, have you got anything fun?
48:38
And usually they kind of go, OK, well, this person might be a car
48:41
person. Let's see what we can find out
48:43
for them. Well, aren't you pulling the I'm
48:45
a car journalist thing like I I did.
48:48
I I'm not as well published as you, Ryan, unfortunately. 55
48:54
articles I'm up to. Come on.
48:56
At what point is it official? But I think you should when you
48:59
slide over one of those new stickers.
49:02
Yeah, I but yeah, I work with Ryan Barky.
49:05
That's right. Yeah.
49:06
Yeah. You may have heard of a little
49:08
show called That Car Show. I don't.
49:10
Know if you know, I'm kind of a big deal.
49:12
Yeah, also I'm British. That's kind of carish.
49:16
Notes and all the rest. The yeah, the adventures in car
49:19
rentals continue. Watch out for the the next
49:22
installment. Sorry.
49:23
Also, do you have anything fun as a British ISM?
49:27
I don't know whether it is or not.
49:28
But I think OK it. Kind of feels like the person at
49:32
the car rental place is like, oh, maybe this person's a car
49:35
person, maybe like. Get more of a car.
49:36
Like to surprise and delight or something.
49:38
OK. But yeah, I'll let you know how
49:40
that goes, yeah. Well, let's, let's just throw
49:43
down this as a challenge, right? The next time we travel, OK, Fly
49:48
to an airport or something, Get a rental car.
49:50
Who can come back with the best rental car without paying extra?
49:55
Yes, without. That's the.
49:56
Key OK, so it's an ongoing challenge.
49:58
Yeah. So it might not be, you know,
50:00
I'm not going anywhere tomorrow, but you know, maybe next month
50:03
or maybe. Next one of us?
50:05
No. And we need to make sure that
50:09
Eli is not included in this or else we're going to lose
50:12
straight away, right? I can't use.
50:15
I can't. I can't leverage my resources.
50:18
Right. Well, Eli, I'll never forget
50:20
that name. Now that's a good one.
50:22
Yeah, right. Well, and he was so nice, you
50:24
know, and yeah, just super helpful.
50:26
And it really did because it was a brand new carpet practically.
50:30
And you know, you hear things about Forerunners, especially
50:33
the first Gen. like underpowered or whatever.
50:36
This one was perfect all the way all the way all the way around.
50:40
Eli, we'll see you in August, buddy.
50:42
Yeah, I love. Him best to see him.
50:46
I test drove a car last week. Oh, what did you drive?
50:51
So you know how sometimes you kind of look at a car and you're
50:53
like, I wonder if it drives as it looks?
50:56
Yeah. And I, I managed to get my keys,
50:59
the keys, too. And I don't know.
51:01
We should use a buzzer here because it's me saying it.
51:03
Not you, Lindsay, but the Bronco Raptor.
51:07
Oh. Wow.
51:08
Or the Barraptor Raptor. And it's a divisive, divisive
51:12
car. Divisive.
51:13
OK, So what did you think, Dan? Yeah.
51:16
So my expectations were incredibly high.
51:20
Yeah. I told a couple of friends that
51:22
I was going to test it, and both of them said exactly the same
51:26
thing. It's too big.
51:28
Yeah. It's too big for you.
51:29
You won't like it. It's too big.
51:31
So were you test driving it with an eye to possibly purchasing
51:34
one or was it just the opportunity to drive it?
51:36
Yes, it's just what Dan does for fun.
51:37
Yeah, I mean, me too. That's why I'm clarifying.
51:42
So I I was thinking about swapping in the Audi and the
51:46
Corolla and getting one do it all car.
51:49
Yeah. So it's something that has
51:50
performance that you can take the top off and you know, can
51:53
store your tires all that sort of I'm not sure that you get the
51:57
tires from the Bronco in the Bronco because they're I.
52:00
Think they're not on the barometer?
52:02
Yeah, thirty siblings. Tires.
52:04
It's almost like Lambo. Rambo.
52:06
Lambo size. Yeah, massive.
52:10
So anyway, I went to the dealer and I'd specifically asked for a
52:14
used Bronco Raptor to test drive.
52:17
I get there and the dealer has the brand new car waiting for
52:20
me, so clearly he's already thinking about the upsell.
52:25
So I'm like how many miles have you got on this thing?
52:27
I'm really happy to drive the used one.
52:30
And he's like, Oh no, it's here now.
52:32
So. So we get out to the car park
52:34
and this thing was, yeah, you have to climb up into it.
52:38
And I Lindsay, you drove one of the Seattle.
52:42
Auto show when we were there, yeah.
52:43
Yeah, so you literally, you almost need to take some
52:47
crampons with you to get into this thing because it's so high.
52:51
So that was the first thing. I didn't realize how high they
52:53
are. And you then get in it and it's
52:58
very familiar. Forward controls, paddles, all
53:01
that sort of stuff. You've got all sorts of extra
53:03
buttons for auxiliary things like lights, etcetera.
53:07
But you're pretty high up, you know, you kind of truck level,
53:09
high output there. So took it down the road.
53:12
My expectations were that this thing was going to really,
53:15
really RIP. And it didn't really, really
53:19
RIP. Did not.
53:21
No, I mean, you you think that because it's got the the Raptor
53:24
brand associated with it. Yeah.
53:26
And it was nippy, but it wasn't like I was kind of like hoping
53:30
for a kind of holy shit, this is quick.
53:32
Right, right. Like.
53:33
Pull. Your hair.
53:34
Back. Well, it's not 500 horsepower.
53:35
It's like 470 or something, right?
53:37
It's not. It's a crazy.
53:38
V6 isn't it? They didn't put AV8IN it because
53:41
it wouldn't. Fit right, but the V6 S are
53:43
faster than the V eights if I'm not mistaken.
53:45
Is it the V6? Is it the EcoBoost?
53:48
I'm not sure now you're testing me out.
53:50
It's I remember it's AV 6. You know what EcoBoost means?
53:53
Honestly, I think it's just the turbo, right?
53:55
Yeah. That's just that's the name that
53:58
they came up with for the V6 Turbo.
53:59
Engine ecologically boosted. Yeah, that's what's in my truck.
54:03
OK, yeah, so I, I don't know if it was, but anyway, so this
54:06
thing, it didn't RIP like I wanted it to RIP.
54:10
It didn't. I can imagine it handles really
54:12
well in the sand. You know, I can imagine that you
54:14
just don't realize that you're going over sand, etcetera.
54:16
When? You're right.
54:17
Which? I.
54:18
Care. Not at all.
54:20
Right. And how often do you find sand
54:22
in the car park? Right, but.
54:24
You're going to the wrong car parks.
54:26
Right. I hate to admit it to Jeff
54:29
Lincoln and everyone else that told me, but it was just too
54:31
big. Just.
54:33
But really? Is that because it's the Raptor
54:35
like extra wide or with the standard Bronco?
54:38
Because you can't get the Raptor with the manual right, but you
54:40
can the regular. Correct, but the width it's got
54:44
extra width. Even with the standard is it's
54:47
just OK because in my mind's eye they're closer to like a
54:50
Wrangler, but I guess they're not.
54:51
I've never driven 1. The Raptors are there's, they
54:54
have a volume to them because of the the additional.
54:58
Like the? Fenders and the yeah,
55:01
everything, everything is, it's like jet puffed a little bit.
55:07
The last week it was constipated, this week is just.
55:10
Like me. Love it, absolutely love it.
55:14
Stay puffed Marshmallow. Bronco.
55:20
If you're in Montana or if you're somewhere like where
55:23
there is a lot of space, I can imagine it's a great car.
55:26
Yeah. But yeah, it just wasn't for.
55:29
Well, and if you're you know when you look at where you're
55:32
going to be driving it, you don't want to have to pause at
55:35
parking garages and. Right am I going to fit right
55:38
you? Know yeah, you.
55:40
Want to be out mending fences in that thing?
55:43
Right, right. Well, and that's, I know it's
55:45
interesting Dan, cuz I know we talked about it at the time and
55:48
I was also very excited to try it out and had high
55:52
expectations. And that was probably one of the
55:56
most interesting car test drive days for me because I drove the
56:00
F-150 Lightning, the Raptor, the Explorer St., and then the Mach
56:07
EGT. And if I had had to rank them
56:10
ahead of time, probably the Bronco and the Lightning would
56:13
have been tied in what I expected to be first, and then
56:17
the Explorer, and then the Mach E And the Mach E was my favorite
56:20
and the Bronco was my least favorite.
56:22
And what's a Bronco? What's a Raptor go for?
56:24
Is it about 7080? It's a bit weird at the minute,
56:27
I didn't want to answer that but.
56:28
No, I don't know. Actually, so to counteract with
56:32
tariffs, Ford are doing something called employee
56:34
pricing. Yeah.
56:36
So in essence, you're getting, I think, between 15 and 20% off.
56:39
OK. But also, yeah, these cars
56:42
aren't selling. So, yeah, So there are bigger
56:46
deals to be had on these things. So I think you could pick a new
56:50
one up for probably about 85. OK, But but an MSRP would be
56:54
about 100. OK.
56:56
And and there's a lot available at that price point as we know.
56:59
And I think that's maybe the thing working against it the
57:01
most. I mean, you're talking about, I
57:04
don't know, Yeah, G Wagon now. I mean, you're getting close to
57:09
right. What's AG Wagon Star?
57:11
The Jeep has the what you call it the is it the 392?
57:13
Yeah. Yeah.
57:16
So that would. Be also like kind of panned
57:17
though, like people never really got crazy about those.
57:21
But I think people like that because it is AV8, right, versus
57:24
the the V6, you know, you could have something very quick from
57:28
Porsche. Yeah, I'm sorry.
57:31
The G Wagon starts at $148,000. So nearly double OK.
57:37
Yeah. Ryan's ability to stay with.
57:40
The common people. Twisting about slowly.
57:43
#Unrelatable. Well, I've never priced the
57:45
basic, you know, the base G wagon.
57:47
It's, it's, you know, the G63 or nothing.
57:50
Well, and I will say when I did the the women's off road day at
57:54
Dirt Fish with Avant's, there were several Raptors there and
57:58
they were amazingly capable. Like they chewed up the course.
58:02
The people had so much fun driving them.
58:04
They looked really cool. So I think it's one of those two
58:07
where. They do look cool.
58:08
They're they're really designed to be off road and that kind of
58:12
thing. And so when you drive it on the
58:13
street, it's a little neutered. You're not really fully
58:16
experiencing what it's been designed to do.
58:19
But yeah, you know, but that's tricky because if you're buying,
58:22
if you're going to have one car, you're going to be driving it in
58:25
context that it wasn't necessarily driven for if it's a
58:27
purpose designed vehicle like that.
58:30
Yeah. And you want to be able to enjoy
58:31
it, especially people like us. Right, right.
58:35
I do not have an assistant. I have to type my questions in.
58:39
I don't have a. You'll get there one day, Ryan.
58:41
I believe in you. Yeah, I'm sorry, now I'm
58:46
punching in G550 prices and it's talking about Gulf Streams and
58:49
that's a whole other. But according to this, an AMG is
58:51
only 40,000 more. So why?
58:54
Why, why limit yourself to the G550?
58:56
Just just saying. I mean, while we're at it,
59:00
that's pretty funny. Well, and one thing, I mean,
59:03
Speaking of like crazy cars, there was one last little
59:06
footnote I wanted to say about all of my visits to Crystal
59:09
Cove. I met a group of young kids.
59:13
I mean, they're probably 18 ish but young as far as compared to
59:17
me. But you know, there's a big
59:19
discussion and we've all talked about this about like our, our
59:22
cars are kids interested in cars these days and kids not getting
59:26
their licenses and whatever. And these kids were so fun and
59:30
so enthusiastic, just like TrueCar people.
59:34
One of them was named Kendall, and she has a Supra that's
59:38
wrapped half and half hot pink and matte black.
59:41
And she ended up walking us around the car and showing us
59:43
all the little Easter eggs. And they had put, you know,
59:46
stickers under the wrap. And then they put the wrap on so
59:49
it looks like it's embossed. Wow.
59:51
And just super cool. And then one of her friends has
59:54
a Mercedes convertible that's covered in purple Muppet hair.
59:57
Oh boy. So very distinctive.
1:00:02
Yeah, good. Hey, good on them.
1:00:03
Good on. Them, I know they were just, you
1:00:05
know, and then, yeah, it was it was very fun and very, you know,
1:00:10
good to see like, OK, the next generation is alive and well and
1:00:14
kids are still into cars and. Yeah, all of that, 100%,
1:00:17
hundred, 10%. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
1:00:20
Super fun. And then we saw him the next day
1:00:21
and we're like, Oh my gosh. How do you wash that thing?
1:00:25
Oh, that, that was the thing. So we saw it Saturday and
1:00:28
they're like, it's a little dirty from the rain.
1:00:31
It had gotten rained, so all the fur was kind of deflated.
1:00:34
I mean, do you use like detergent then like laundry?
1:00:37
Detergent. This is like a.
1:00:38
Conditioner. Yeah, yeah, from getting, you
1:00:41
know, dry and brittle. Come on.
1:00:44
But yeah, so car girl Kendall with AK.
1:00:46
She was right on. OK, cool.
1:00:48
Yeah. Yeah, and they were about to
1:00:50
swap out the. Fur kids are all right, aren't?
1:00:51
They exactly. The kids are all right.
1:00:54
Have we got a show title in that?
1:00:56
Yeah. Maybe.
1:00:57
I think I used that once for the roadshow.
1:01:00
The kids are all right and. Steering committee or something?
1:01:02
Yeah. And Muppet Mercedes.
1:01:05
Yeah, Muppet hair. I think we're at a show, aren't
1:01:09
we folks? I think we are.
1:01:11
What do you think, Ryan? We.
1:01:13
Oh, we can keep talking on that. I.
1:01:18
Think I'm all hopped up on any beers.
1:01:20
I mean, it's just getting getting going.
1:01:21
We had. At least a half a case of non
1:01:22
alcoholic beer left. What am I supposed?
1:01:24
To do with it. Well, now he's going to knock
1:01:26
three of those over at least, isn't he?
1:01:30
So. 2 down, 1 to go. For our listeners, let us know
1:01:34
where else we should introduce the buzzer.
1:01:36
I'm thinking Dan McGuinness, Yeah.
1:01:39
And maybe Derek Powell, because they seem.
1:01:41
To come up alone. This week's I'm Maybe.
1:01:43
Crystal Cove. Crystal Cove.
1:01:46
I mean, we could end up with a show that's just buzzer, buzzer,
1:01:48
buzzer. One for every time I spill a
1:01:50
beer. That's yeah, yeah.
1:01:51
Well it's like, you know, John and Justin had to do that AI
1:01:54
show. We might, we're like, we may
1:01:55
have to fall back on just a show that's an entirely the buzzer if
1:01:58
we have an issue. Wild noises.
1:02:01
We'll get there. So that's a show, I think.
1:02:03
Who is gonna leave us with our famous catch phrase?
1:02:07
Ryan, would you like to? Yeah, this is that car show.
1:02:11
Always be driving for next time. Excellent.
1:02:16
Thanks everyone. We'll see everybody next week.