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NFL Talk with Dalton Wasserman, Iowa & Iowa State football preview & conference stat leaders & Trent's Picks presented by Circa Sports · The Lunch Rush with Trent Condon

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  Our number 2, Welcome back Miller in Condon on the Iowa
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  Sports Radio Network. Wherever you're listening in the
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  state of Iowa, we are grateful that you are.
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  We'll take you until 2:00. At that time, turn things over
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  off the bench. I'll come.
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  Lucas Strain, David Eichel from 2:00 until 5.
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  Let's continue with our NFL theme today.
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  Dalton Wasserman covers the league for profootballfocus.com.
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  He's with us. Dalton.
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  Trent Condon, this is Ken Miller.
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  Good to talk to you again. Dalton, how are you?
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  Oh awesome, the seasons coming right around the corner.
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  Feels good. Feels good.
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  Absolutely. Hard Knocks episode 1 tonight,
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  we check another box on our way to opening night.
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  Well, I want to start with you. I want to go out West because
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  this is was a really chic pick when the sports book operators
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  began to post their numbers for this year's Super Bowl.
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  As soon as last year's Super Bowl, the Lombardi Trophy was
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  passed out to the Eagles. Boom, you could bet on next
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  year. And one of those teams that took
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  a lot of money right off the bat was the Rams, because it's top
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  mind that they were the team that pushed the Eagles more than
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  anybody in the playoffs. Now comes word that Matthew
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  Stafford has serious back injuries.
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  Sean McVeigh was asked about it yesterday and he immediately
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  changed the subject to answer a question about Jimmy Garoppolo,
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  which was not taken as a positive sign.
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  If Stafford is hurt and it's a back so we know how quickie
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  those can be, what does that do to the Rams chances?
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  Well, if if he's out for an extended period of time as
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  severely enters their championship hopes, right.
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  And I think this is a team when you talk about an aging
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  quarterback who already isn't that mobile if you're talking
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  about now having a back injury. And the whole key is to have a
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  lead pass protection in front of him that that's really the key
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  to their season. So I mean, they need Stafford at
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  100% and they need him upright in the pocket in order to be
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  able to contend for a championship because he him and
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  those receivers are really the difference when you talk about
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  offensively that team being able to to compete at the top of the
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  NFC. When you look at the NFC, the
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  Eagles are a behemoth. When you just talk about the
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  roster, talent, obviously what we saw from them a year ago, who
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  else do you put in the conversation is are you down on
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  the Lions? Taking a step back, What do you
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  look at the NFC as a whole, knowing that the Eagles roster
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  is ridiculous? Who else do you like overall?
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  Yeah, it's tough because you've got the Rams, but they've got
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  Matthew Stafford in his injury, the entire AF.
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  Sorry, NFC North, when you talk about especially Detroit and
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  Minnesota and Green Bay are all extremely talented.
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  All three of them made the playoffs last year and they all
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  have a ton of talent, but question marks of their own.
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  Then you look at the South with teams like Tampa Bay or maybe
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  even Atlanta with their explosive offenses.
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  And then within the Eagle Zone division, you still have Jayden
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  Daniels and the Washington Commanders who were playing in
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  the NFC title game too. So I think you have a bunch of
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  teams with a lot of talent, but also one or two flaws that
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  really put them a full step behind Philadelphia.
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  So there's going to be, I think, a wide open race both in the
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  other 3 divisions and just for the speed, the pecking order in
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  the NFC in general, because the Eagles pretty clearly have the
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  best roster, but there's a lot of teams with a lot of talent.
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  If the Rams do take a step back because of an injury, so let's
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  say the the Niners were so banged up last year, they
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  finished last. They've got an easy schedule.
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  If there is such a thing in the NFL, statistically says that
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  there is Purdy's back for another year.
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  He's got his new contract. There's a lot of love out there
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  for the Niners. A, to win the division and B,
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  for Kyle Shanahan to be coach of the year.
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  We know God, those wins, those awards.
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  It's never an Andy Reid or, you know, one of the upper echelon
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  coaches gets his team to the best record.
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  It's a team that comes from nowhere.
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  Where are you on the Niners? Could they?
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  Could they they win the West this year, do you think, Dalton?
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  They could, but they need all of their stars healthy, right?
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  When you look at last year, Trent Williams was hurt,
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  Christian McCaffrey was hurt, Brandon Iuke, Ricky Pierce saw.
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  I mean, they just had so many injuries, right?
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  I think even Nick Bosa missed a couple of games that they don't
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  have enough depth to be able to sustain multiple injuries to
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  their star players. Their their starting lineup,
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  their first 22 when they're all fully healthy is as good as
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  anybody in the league. But what we've seen the last
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  couple years of the Niners is the depth deteriorate, right?
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  You talk about the offensive line doesn't have a ton of
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  depth. The defensive line doesn't have
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  a ton of depth. There's only so many injuries
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  to, you know, especially your running back core.
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  And when you're so reliant on Christian McCaffrey, there's
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  only so many injuries you can handle.
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  So if they're 100%, I think absolutely they're a playoff
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  contender. But even just a month out from
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  the season, there's still questions on multiple players
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  there. I think McCaffrey especially is
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  a big X Factor. So I do like them provided they
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  can be healthy. But we don't have proof yet over
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  the past year really that they can stay healthy like that.
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  The Atlanta Falcons, Ken, I don't know, a month or two ago,
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  he came charging in here. He he found the dark horse and
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  then a day or two later, he had relented on that one.
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  And I've been the same way I look at it for a while.
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  You get them maybe at the right angle, you get the right
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  sunlight on. I mean, yeah, I like the skill
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  positions. I think we saw it a lot out of
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  Pennix. They maybe fix the pass rush and
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  they can actually get to the quarterback.
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  And then you come back the other way.
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  You can talk yourselves in circles.
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  So what part of the circle are you in right now with the
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  Atlanta Falcons? I mean, there's two big ifs and
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  you mentioned them both. 1 is if Michael Pennex can perform the
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  way he did in his three starts for a whole season.
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  And honestly, he's got a very good supporting cast to do so.
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  You got a really good offensive line.
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  I think Drake London out wide is aiming for a massive season with
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  the way Pennex was throwing him the ball last year.
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  But the bigger question to me, and you mentioned it there was
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  the pass rush, right? It was one of the two or three
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  worst pass rushing teams in the league last year.
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  The back seven on defense is pretty good, but you're playing
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  so many good quarterbacks in the NFL now that if you can't
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  generate any pressure on them, then you're at a distinct
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  disadvantage, right? Especially when you're talking
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  about having your own young quarterback that's trying to
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  develop in his own right. So I do think Pennex is in for a
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  Goodyear. I'm a big fan of their offense.
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  But that pass rush and the kids, you know, coming in as rookies
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  with Pearson Walker and then guys like Braylon Trice coming
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  back who were hurt last year, they really needed a lot better
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  pass rush in order to compete with those top teams in the top
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  quarterbacks. Where were you when Kyle Pitts
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  is coming out of college and from Florida where he's just
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  tearing up college football? I'll be honest, all I I thought
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  they could start working on his bust already because this guy
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  looked as though he was, you know, going to be at the end of
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  his career. Wouldn't be long before he's
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  going to make his way to Canton and try and agree a a a Jack
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  gold jacket. He's been awful.
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  He's not lived up to expectations.
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  Maybe a little bit better last year.
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  So is this just a case of a guy taking a while to get
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  acclimated? Would you buy a buy stock on
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  Kyle Pitts having a Kyle Pitts type of year when he was back in
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  college? I mean, it's tough because the
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  trajectory has been moving downward.
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  His best season in the NFL was his rookie season when he had
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  1000 yards. And I think it's just a matter
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  of when you have a guy like Kyle Pitts who's not a particularly
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  good blocker and it's hard to use him in line closer to the
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  offensive line, then you're really talking just about a guy
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  who's a big receiver, right? And those guys can succeed.
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  But you know, it's just a matter of finding the right role for
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  him. And if he's the liabilities of
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  blocker, then it's hard for him to be on the field as much.
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  He's still obviously very talented.
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  The Falcons don't have a huge depth of weapons and they don't
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  have another tight end like him on the roster.
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  So they need him to be better this year.
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  But time is ticking, honestly. And maybe it's going to take a
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  guy like Panics who can work the ball better vertically downfield
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  in the last few Falcons quarterbacks.
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  But I I really think you're really on the fence here with
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  Kyle Pitts in his production this year.
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  It's he's one of the biggest make or break players in
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  football. Green Bay has been a team that
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  has been such a wide range of opinions and I've heard it all
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  from this team's going to finish 4th and decide 4th after going
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  one and five in the division a year ago to this is a team that
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  can win this division and maybe even contend for a top couple of
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  seed in the NFCA. Big part of that is obviously
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  the development of Jordan Love and taking yet another step
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  forward this year. What do you look at this team
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  though overall? Where are you on the Packers?
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  I don't see them as as right now as good as Philadelphia in the
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  NFCI do think they can win that division.
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  I think any of the four teams in the NFC North have a chance to
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  win that division. But to me, Jordan Love has to be
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  a little bit better with the decision making.
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  I know he was hurt a bit last year in the first half
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  especially and it got better down the stretch, but not
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  forcing those home run shots downfield.
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  And then as far as the Packers as a team, I I have my concerns
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  about their past defense as well.
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  I don't think it's being said enough that their past rush when
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  when halfway wasn't blitzing was not good enough.
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  And their cornerback room is extremely thin.
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  You've got Jair Alexander and Eric Stokes both gone now.
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  Nate Hobbs is out for the rest of training camp with an injury.
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  I'm a little worried about their past defense, both their
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  secondary and their inability to rush to rush the passer with
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  four. But obviously, look, they've got
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  a ton of weapons on offense. They've got a very good
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  offensive line. They've got a high floor because
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  of just all of the talent they have.
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  But there's a few things on that team that would worry me.
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  Let's get to the AFC Dalton Wasserman Pro Football focuses
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  joining us. I want to start out West with
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  you. I'll phrase it this way.
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  Do the Chiefs repeat? Or if not Kansas City, who's
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  ready to claim the West? I I will not be the team to pick
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  against the Chiefs. They've won.
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  What is it now, nine in a row or 99 in a row?
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  Now I won't be the team to pick against the Chiefs.
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  It's just like all those old days in the AFC East, the Tom
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  Brady and the Patriots, just there's no sense in picking
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  against them, right? Because it feels like they're
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  going to win it every year until somehow they don't write
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  something drastic. What happens?
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  But no, I mean, I, I really like what's going on both in Denver
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  and in LA with the Broncos and Chargers, right?
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  You've got young quarterbacks, you've got ascending defenses,
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  you've got very, very well coached teams with Sean Payton
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  and Jim Harbaugh. It is going to be tighter than
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  ever, especially with all the one score games that the Chiefs
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  won last year and at times even a little bit of luck working
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  their way. But I I still have to pick the
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  Chiefs until further notice. I don't know if I got into the
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  wrong drink, but I I'm starting to maybe talk myself into Aaron
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  Rodgers working in Pittsburgh. I don't know what it is, maybe
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  it's been the long and offseason, but I find myself
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  more and more maybe this can work.
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  Can you see this working at age 40 and a guy that is not going
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  to take any crap in Mike Tomlin? It can work if they protect him,
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  right, if the supporting cast is good enough, especially on the
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  offensive line. I'll say the first thing,
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  though, is that their defense is so good and it's much better
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  equipped than The Jets was last year, that Rogers should not be
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  expected to go in there and be the highest scoring, you know,
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  quarterback, highest scoring team in the NFL.
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  He scores 24 points. They're going to win ball games
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  with that defense in the way they've stacked it up.
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  But offensively, to me, he's got to be protected, right?
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  He's older than Russell Wilson. He's less mobile than Russell
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  Wilson. And the Steelers, to me, the
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  biggest weak spot on their entire team is their offensive
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  tackles. You got Broderick Jones going
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  into year three now to back in the left side at a new position.
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  He struggled his first two years and Troy Fautano on the other
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  side who only played one game last year.
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  So if they protect him, I think it can absolutely work.
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  I don't know. I don't think necessarily
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  they're a championship contender.
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  But if you're talking about working in the sense of the
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  Steelers can win that first playoff game since 2016, yeah,
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  it can work to that extent. But they need to protect him
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  because Rogers, at this point, with the lack of mobile Odie, is
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  not going to protect himself much back there in the pocket.
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  A couple more minutes with Dalton Wasserman.
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  Dalton, what am I missing? It seems like the Houston Texans
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  should be everybody's pick to win the South.
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  I know maybe Stroud took a bit of a step back, but he bent some
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  injuries at the wide receiver position certainly didn't help.
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  I think the Texans are a free square.
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  Where are you on Houston winning the South?
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  I think they're very clearly the favorite, but they do have the
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  kryptonite of that offensive line and some think including in
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  our unit rankings, we have them right now, is the worst
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  offensive line in football. Just not a whole lot.
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  There's just not really any premier talent down there now
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  that they've traded Laramie Tunsil to Washington.
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  So when you talk about any team that you have, you know, whether
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  you have an elite quarterback and all these things.
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  And I love their defense, especially their past defense
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  with all the stars they have. But anytime you have a team that
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  has a potentially bottom 5 offensive line, we see the same
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  thing up in Cincinnati. You could lose the game any
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  given week because you're losing the line of scrimmage, right?
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  So I think that is they are, I think the clear favorite in that
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  division. They do have a clear kryptonite.
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  If the Colts could figure out their quarterback situation, I
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  think they have a very dangerous offense.
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  Who knows if Liam Cohen can jumpstart that thing in
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  Jacksonville. So I don't think it's 100%
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  guaranteed. I do think they're the most
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  talented team, but when that offensive line is your biggest
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  weakness, you're always liable to lose a game week to week,
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  maybe even ones that you shouldn't.
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  You mention offensive line and that brings me to something with
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  Pro Football Focus. I love the numbers that you guys
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  put together and trying to figure out how to grade things,
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  but by far the most difficult football people tell you is
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  grading offensive line. Can you take us under the hood a
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  little bit and explain how you guys over at Pro Football Focus
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  do it? Because Ken knows, I mean, I
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  bring up those numbers all the time because look, we watch
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  football. You can tell a wide receivers
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  doing his thing, a quarterbacks doing his thing, offensive line
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  is difficult. How you guys grade things on the
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  O line at Pro Football Focus? Yeah, it's difficult because of
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  one, the camera angles and things that are harder to see on
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  TV and, and two, the amount of context that goes into it and
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  the amount that you have to really interpret each guy's
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  assignment and the unit's assignment, whether that's a run
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  concept and what they're trying to accomplish there or passing
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  things off in pass protection. But you know what I can tell you
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  is we go through everything twice, right?
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  We have our live run when the game is going and then we do get
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  the all 22 in and we and we rework a little bit of it, you
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  know, once we get that in and we get the end zone shot.
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  So really when you talk about having to integrate the context
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  of of all five guys assignments up there on top of the
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  dominance, right, if you're blowing guys 5-6 yards off the
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  ball in the run game or if you're really keeping things
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  clean and pass protection, then that all starts to work into it.
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  So it does it takes in every snap approach to it.
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  It takes a lot of detail and a lot of interpreting even, you
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  know, the certain teams with different protection schemes and
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  how they want to do things in the run game that it does take a
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  lot. But we do go through it twice
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  over every single game. Like, you know, the second time
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  when we get the all 20, we get that end zone shot of every
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  single place. So it's certainly a lot of fun.
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  I, I did it for three years and, and there's certainly a lot that
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  goes into it. It's it's honestly, it's my
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  favorite thing that we do because I don't think anybody
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  else has that sort of context in the trenches like.
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  That no, we all rely on you to get our information before we
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  regurgitate it. Last thing for me, let Trent
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  finish up with the Dalton episode 1 tonight of Hard
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  Knocks. Buffalo is in the spotlight this
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  year. They're going to win the East.
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  I don't know who's going to be who's going to finish second,
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  third or fourth, but I'm I'm pretty sure that the Buffalo
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  will prevail. Is this a Super Bowl team in
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  your mind if they've done enough to finally, finally win a Super
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  Bowl? Look, it's all about the
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  defense. Look, Josh Allen is he's ready
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  to win a Super Bowl. He's been fully ready to win a
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  Super Bowl. He's undoubtedly one of the four
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  best quarterbacks in football. But it's all about this defense,
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  right? There's too many times in the
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  postseason where they have given up too many points.
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  They haven't made big stops in big moments.
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  And I know people like to get on the quarterback in the and all
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  of that, but their defense was the fifth lowest graded unit in
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  our in our grading system last year, right?
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  They just have Sean McDermott, Bobby Babbage in this defense
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  have to be better in big moments.
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  But I do like that they've attacked it this offseason. 5 of
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  their first six draft picks were on the defensive side.
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  A lot of their free agent signings were on the defensive
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  side, especially the defensive line.
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  So if they can improve and at least get to something average
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  to above average on that side of the ball, then Josh Allen can
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  carry them the rest of the way. That's what I'm looking for.
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  You're right, they're the prohibitive favorite in the AFC
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  East. But it's a matter of making
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  stops when it matters in the postseason.
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  I love PFF, makes us smarter football fans.
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  We get to these preseason games. What should we be watching for
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  just in general when we're watching this preseason games?
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  By the time we get to the second-half, a lot of these guys
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  are not going to be on any active rosters.
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  How should a football fan watch pre season football?
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  As long as your favorite team isn't involved.
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  I think the most, the most important part for me at this
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  point, the pre season is watching the young guys, the
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  rookies that you do know. Lost them.
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  Lost them. Watch the rookies.
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  Yeah, watch the rookies. Don, if you can hear us, We lost
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  you, so we appreciate what you do for us.
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  Good stuff out of this. Good.
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  Really good, isn't? He is, and he also does college.
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  Stuff over. I know he does yeah.
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  And and they've got a sale Pro Football focus on college that
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  does Chris Collinsworth own this or has ownership in it or he did
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  yes. Yes.
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  I think they're based in Cincinnati, if memory serves.
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  Oh, really? I think and that's what
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  Collinsworth lives, right. I think so.
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  Donald Wasserman lost, you guys, not sure what happened.
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  We'll take a time out. We'll come back.
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  Trent and I will. We've got a number of topics
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  we're going to get to and we come back.
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  Miller and Condon on the Iowa Sports Radio Network.
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  Hi, Miller and Condon, welcome back.
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  Coming up on 1:30 on a Tuesday, Trent's Plays of the Day, Circus
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  sports sponsor, those get to those in about 20 minutes or
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  thereabouts. Did you have a winning day
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  yesterday? I know you had.
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  You had the Reds, you had the Blue Jays did you had.
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  There was no WNBA. Nope, I ran the board 3 and O.
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  That a boy I knew you were two and O.
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  That's how we start off the week.
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  What was my other one yesterday? How do we pull up the app here?
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  We also had, oh, Houston, it was plus money against the Marlins
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  and the Reds were plus money. They were had it all together.
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  Even with that -200 with your Blue Jays plus 3.19 units.
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  Well done. That's a winning day.
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  Yeah. And.
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  By by any any count, no doubt about that All right when totals
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  in college football you want to take a look at the locals Yes,
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  absolutely because I I'm just I'll tell you the one that's got
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  me baffled. I think I was going over by the
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  way that one to me was it came easy.
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  Iowa State is confounding for a number of reasons.
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  OK, I, I think they could be as good as eight and four, nine and
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  three, or the ceiling falls out and they're six and six, five
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  and seven. I think there's somewhere in
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  there. Iowa, on the other hand, I just
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  can't see Iowa crashing and burning.
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  And I've changed because I could have back in the day.
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  I'll be back earlier, you know, went after the season.
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  In January we were this is going to be a struggle to get to say.
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  Absolutely. And I think the country felt
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  that way, but I but I don't feel that way anymore, Trent.
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  I feel better about Iowa than I do about Iowa State's chances of
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  having a nine and three type of year.
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  Is the Iowa side, Is it just Gronowski or is that a big
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  piece? I'm still not sold.
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  I keep everything I keep hearing.
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  Well, it's a, it's a Phil Parker defense.
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  You know they're going to be good.
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  Did You Know? 2014, they went young linebacker
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  because of injuries and they sucked, right?
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  They took a huge step back. Right.
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  And that's a huge unknown this year.
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  It is huge unknown. Secondary Phil Steele has them
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  the number 8 in the country ranked defensive line.
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  That happens. They'll be fine.
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  They'll be. Fine.
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  If they can get to that level we know they're pretty good at,
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  they're set at special teams, we think.
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  I keep hearing about the left tackle.
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  They'll find somebody play that position.
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  We know they can run the football.
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  The wide receiver room is as deep, fair to say yes, as it's
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  been in a long, long time. The question maybe, and it's
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  never the question that I was a tight end, right?
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  But I still think because Gronowski is going to be such an
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  upgrade that that gives me utmost confidence that this team
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  is going to, you know, not crash and burn, that you're not
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  sitting here in November when you've got Michigan State,
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  Nebraska next. The last two games, they have to
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  win one to get the ball eligibility.
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  I don't see that. That they're already have that
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  hay. They'll have that hay in the
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  barn and that means going to USC and that's not going to be easy.
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  It never is going West. Their final four games, Oregon
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  at USC, Michigan State, Nebraska.
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  When we get to that point, coming off the Minnesota game at
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  the end of October, are those games going to matter big
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  picture for playoff? You mean like is there going to
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  be a path? Well, if they win them all,
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  they'll be fine. So you can see this team sitting
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  going into that final stretch, they're six and two.
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  Yes. And it's a bye week before that
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  org and that's a conversation that we're having.
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  Yeah, but but I want to stop everybody right now because I
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  know people are going crazy. Miller's got him going to the
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  no, I don't have him going to the playoffs.
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  Your question was, is when we get to November, is it still a
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  possibility? And yes, Trent, I see it as a
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  possibility now. I don't see them winning enough
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  games in November to make that a reality, but that's a
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  conversation. Yes, if they run the table, yes,
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  they will be a playoff team. The one game they're going to
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  lose to Penn State, yes. I mean, I know that Kenny comes
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  alive and we've seen it before with heavy heads come to town.
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  There's no there's been no kick off time announced yet, correct.
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  If it finds a way to be under the lights, you know that like
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  Iowa a little bit better. I still don't like him enough.
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  I think they could be unbeaten when they get to that point.
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  Not a stretch. Because I have the winning
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  Cyhawk. This year they go well, a place
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  that they haven't lost since 2011.
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  That's Jack Trice Stadium, as they continue to RIP off
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  victories there in some incredible fashions throughout
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  the time at Rutgers. Short week Kirk's been good at
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  short weeks. He's been good on Fridays.
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  Especially when he goes east. I got to see it from Indiana
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  I'm. With you and we both like
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  Mendoza, but I got to see it. And you got a road trip, but off
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  a by at Wisconsin. Wisconsin might win 4, might win
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  four games. And I I can absolutely buy that
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  that they are 6 and O and that will set up a showdown at State
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  College because Penn State before that, where's Penn State
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  have well, they do have a game to get to Oregon.
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  So but if they win that one, it's a Beaver.
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  They also might be that's the white out.
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  That's the white out. Yeah.
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  I mean, we could be talking 6 and over six and O another top
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  five matchup that will be compelling.
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  I think I. Would start too far out of the
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  top five to be a top five matchup, but at that point you
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  never. Know never know, right what what
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  could happen and it's going to be a big one.
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  So we're laying out a case that November is really going to
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  matter for. Us.
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  Well, what do they do against Minnesota?
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  They beat the Gulf. Yeah, I agree.
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  Yeah. Are you buying P JS team?
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  I'm buying that they're going to be better.
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  But not They're fine. They're fine.
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  As as much as I hate Phil Fleck because he's just, he's not my
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  kind of person. He's a football coach.
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  He's not the Tim Brewsters of the world.
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  That was all it was, was the flash and there was no some.
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  There is substance behind it. I don't like the way that he
• 23:00
  drives at it, but he is a football coach along with all
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  the other crap that he throws out.
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  There, I agree. I wish I will give him credit
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  for that. I would too.
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  I wish he'd put a a stocking cap on when it's November.
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  I got to go for ball 10. I feel terrible.
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  That's got to be tough for you to say.
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  Look, I had their way up there with them last year.
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  They had their way. I think they'll I think Hawks
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  find a way to win a close game. So here we are back to November,
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  and if we're right at that point, they would be 6 and 1,
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  seven and one. Seven and one in that scenario,
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  yeah. And then here comes Oregon and
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  then they go to USC and then here comes Sparty on Senior Day
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  before you go to Nebraska. And a lot of folks think that
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  the how many times have we heard the year three met rule year and
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  it's been true to this point. It is.
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  I could see one and three in the month of November.
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  That's not a stretch either. I think Aiden Childs is going to
• 23:54
  take a big step forward as Sparty's quarterback.
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  This year, and if that happens and they finish eight and four
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  after a 7 and one start, which I don't think is a huge stretch
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  that that could play out in that fashion, November has normally
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  been a strength. And Michigan State beaten pretty
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  easy last year. They did, but that was by far
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  the best offensive game that Michigan State had all year
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  long. That's true.
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  The defense looked inept. I did against Michigan State.
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  I. Have all teams of all teams.
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  If that happens, 8 and four a nice year.
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  But it it won't feel great, will it?
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  It'll feel too, because of the way that you're finished.
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  What could It's the schedule. I mean, if you were, if you
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  were, if you came out of nowhere to get to 8 and four by winning
• 24:34
  your last three out of your last four, Rutgers, Indiana,
• 24:36
  Wisconsin, Penn State, you feel better about that.
• 24:39
  Eight and four look shinier because it's here and now.
• 24:41
  I mean, you just flip it the other way and your final three
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  games are Rutgers, Indiana, Wisconsin.
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  There you go. It's different.
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  It would feel a whole lot. There it's getting figuring it
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  out November if we see it every year.
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  No, not this year. The schedule is not, it's not
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  conducive to that. So let's take a look at Iowa
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  State because I think Iowa State is going to lose in Dublin.
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  I think they beat South Dakota. And again, that's closer than it
• 25:06
  should be because of the coming back.
• 25:08
  I think they lose Seihawk, they win at Arkansas State and then,
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  well, they get they they beat Arkansas State and then they
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  continue their role in the Big 12.
• 25:18
  They'll beat Arizona, they'll win at Cincinnati, they'll win
• 25:21
  at Colorado. I don't understand the BYU love.
• 25:25
  They don't have a quarterback. Well, they got this guy that's
• 25:27
  like 5-7. Right I saw the pictures tiny
• 25:33
  little he's a little guy so it's at that point they've reeled off
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  five straight wins if we're right here before Arizona State
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  comes to town and that to me is a toss up I.
• 25:43
  Don't believe in Arizona State? I like Sam Levin.
• 25:45
  I do too, but he doesn't. Did you see?
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  And they've got a bullseye on their backs.
• 25:52
  Did you see after practice the other day the way that
• 25:54
  Dillingham was calling out his team?
• 25:57
  Big time was he. I got to find the clip again
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  because it was not just a you know, he didn't have a great
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  pet. It was calling out his team.
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  It reminded me of very much of the fat cats.
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  Kirk Ferd's statement. He was calling out his guys for
• 26:11
  him big time way that though maybe fueling the fire a little
• 26:16
  bit more. Arizona State.
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  That is not a place where you stack up.
• 26:21
  Lean Iowa State. Everybody loves TCU and Hoover,
• 26:24
  and you love Hoover. I love Hoover.
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  That's a tough game. You might have to win that
• 26:28
  14240. OK, you can though.
• 26:30
  You know, again, here we go to here Kansas and here's the
• 26:34
  here's the algorithm that got me yesterday that this team is 7
• 26:37
  and O after they leave. No, they won't be, but I think
• 26:40
  they're going to be better. This is this has to be Daniel's
• 26:43
  last year. He's been there since before
• 26:44
  COVID and he's a good quarterback when he's healthy
• 26:49
  and Oklahoma State is awful. This will be Gundy's last game
• 26:53
  as the head coach of the Cowboys.
• 26:55
  So when you add it all up, they've got one win in their
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  first 3, then 23456. Let's say they beat Arizona
• 27:05
  State 7, Oklahoma State 8 at TCU Kansas.
• 27:11
  Do you split to get the 9 or does or does Arizona State go
• 27:15
  against? You see, that's where I'm at.
• 27:17
  That's where I'm kind of. But you're well over, you're
• 27:19
  well, you're feeling confident on over with both teams.
• 27:23
  And when I look at Iowa State and I like and look at the
• 27:25
  schedule, I, I, I like them in the Kansas State game.
• 27:30
  I just looked again, we're going through and during the break I
• 27:34
  thought, what are the places? I think it might have been
• 27:36
  Fianduel on the money line. They're like plus 138.
• 27:40
  Iowa State is. Iowa State is against case.
• 27:42
  That's too much. That's a coin flip game plus
• 27:45
  138. Yeah, I'm going to invest.
• 27:47
  Maybe Matt Campbell's better at week 0 than he is at week one.
• 27:50
  That's. And last year, did they figure
• 27:52
  it out a year ago? We're hearing those positive
• 27:54
  trends that they feel like at least they have a path now of
• 27:57
  getting off to better starts to the season.
• 27:59
  I like them a lot more than you. Do.
• 28:01
  You like K State in that game? I like Iowa State in that first
• 28:04
  one. Now, I do have more concerns
• 28:06
  about that back-to-back road trip to Cincinnati and Colorado
• 28:09
  than I think you do. Which one of the two?
• 28:12
  Either one of the two, you know, it's just I put them in the same
• 28:15
  bucket and I think that's a split though they're better on
• 28:20
  paper than both those teams winning both of them on the
• 28:23
  road. That's where it becomes a little
• 28:25
  bit more difficult for me. So I got AL there.
• 28:28
  When it comes to Colorado, I just don't really think about
• 28:30
  the quarterback. Well, they brought two of them
• 28:32
  to Media days, yeah. I would brought none.
• 28:38
  OK, That's that's that's, that's not, that's not unfair because
• 28:41
  that's. Salter, right.
• 28:42
  Yes, Kaden Salter. Salter, Who?
• 28:44
  Huge numbers at Liberty. It was huge.
• 28:46
  And had them in what the Fiesta Bowl?
• 28:49
  Is that where they played Oregon two years ago?
• 28:51
  I think that's. What?
• 28:51
  It was not last year, No. Yeah.
• 28:53
  Two years ago he had he had liberty in the Fiesta Bowl.
• 28:56
  No different world, different environment, but still that's
• 28:59
  something that really truly happened.
• 29:01
  BYU huge step back. Arizona State, step back.
• 29:05
  TCU better. Kansas, They lost close games
• 29:09
  last year. Didn't go their way, but.
• 29:10
  Still, what did we start the show with?
• 29:12
  Oh yeah, that starts to even out a little bit more.
• 29:16
  They're over. Both teams are over.
• 29:18
  Both teams over. Optimism about reign supreme on
• 29:22
  August 5th, now come back August 15th.
• 29:26
  We might go the other way because that's also what starts
• 29:29
  to happen is you hear one thing, you get a report.
• 29:34
  This isn't going very well. Iowa hasn't found it.
• 29:37
  Left tackle, that defensive end position for Iowa State.
• 29:40
  Still, nobody's getting to the quarterback in practice.
• 29:42
  That's just that's a huge and we.
• 29:44
  Hear those little and then all of a sudden then you start
• 29:46
  talking the other way and I jump off the K state and you find a
• 29:50
  lawsuit either Colorado or Cincinnati and you know what
• 29:52
  Arizona State I think they are getting and you go back the
• 29:55
  other way and very quickly. On your 6:00 and 6:00. 6:00 and
• 29:58
  6:00 when you're going to the Reliquest Bowl.
• 30:01
  We're back to Memphis. Whatever it is, hey, I found one
• 30:05
  other thing. Now this is offshore, but I
• 30:08
  thought this was interesting because the prop bet menu for
• 30:12
  the NFL is so overwhelming. It's crazy.
• 30:16
  The amount of things that you can bet on, including individual
• 30:19
  player props. So that's what this is,
• 30:21
  individual player props for the Big 10 and the Big 12 to lead
• 30:25
  the conference each of their conferences in passing yards,
• 30:29
  receiving yards and rushing yards.
• 30:32
  So the reason this popped into my head is I just want to see
• 30:35
  where the local guys were involved, right?
• 30:37
  So let's start with the Big 12. In a quarterback league that is
• 30:41
  so ridiculously. It's it's so it really is,
• 30:43
  Trent. It really is.
• 30:44
  Where in the Big 10, the SEC, there's so many question marks
• 30:47
  at that position and then you get to the Big 12.
• 30:51
  So a guy like Jalen Daniels, who we just talked about in terms of
• 30:56
  leading the conference and passing yards, he is like the
• 30:58
  10th betting choice. Really.
• 31:01
  Josh Hoover is the betting favorite.
• 31:02
  Plus 150. OK.
• 31:03
  Morton of Texas Tech 2 to one big drop.
• 31:07
  Where's Levitt? Six to one for Sawyer Robertson
• 31:11
  of Baylor. There is Rocco.
• 31:13
  He's 9 to one along with. So he's the fourth choice.
• 31:16
  Kaden Salter of Colorado, both of them, at 9:00 to 1:00.
• 31:20
  Then you get to Sam Levitt at 11 to 112 to one for Noah Fafida.
• 31:24
  Avery Johnson's 20 to one. Really.
• 31:27
  How about Jalen Daniels at 40 to 1?
• 31:30
  Brendan Sorsby of Cincinnati, who I kind of like, maybe have a
• 31:33
  little crush on him. He's 40 to 1 now.
• 31:37
  Devin Dampier's not going to throw for a lot of.
• 31:39
  Yard. No, he's going to run.
• 31:40
  For a lot of he absolutely is. He's 60 to 1 ego from there,
• 31:42
  which was eye opening. Here's another eye opening one.
• 31:46
  Let's go to receiving yard leader Jordan.
• 31:48
  Tyson's the betting favorite. As he should.
• 31:50
  Yes, he's a stunt. Your 4th betting choice is the
• 31:54
  guy that's never played in the Big 12, but he's the big
• 31:57
  receiver for Iowa State. Jay Sole is the 4th betting
• 32:00
  choice to lead the league in receiving yards.
• 32:04
  The betting markets are brewing with what we're hearing again is
• 32:07
  they found another one and we shouldn't be surprised, should
• 32:10
  we? No, I, I know.
• 32:11
  I just see, I, I think Bramer's going to lead the team in, in
• 32:14
  receiving yards this year. I think he's going to have a
• 32:16
  breakout year. Have you ever seen a tight end
• 32:19
  though in this offense do? We have but, but Brocco Becht
• 32:24
  had, he had two blankets, security blankets, right?
• 32:28
  Fine #3 find Jane Higgins. Those guys are found in Houston
• 32:33
  now. I don't know.
• 32:34
  That's 167 combined catches that are in the NFL.
• 32:39
  That's asking a lot. Maybe maybe he isn't, but
• 32:41
  they've done it continually. I know it's.
• 32:44
  It's after El Hazard left. They're not going to find
• 32:46
  another El Hazard. We, we played this game, four
• 32:48
  straight turnovers of that big receiver position and they find
• 32:52
  another guy every single team. Butler, yes, that's it.
• 32:55
  You're not going to replace him. I thought he'd play in the NFLI,
• 32:58
  really did. Rushing leaders Dylan Edwards
• 33:01
  and K State's the favorite but your fourth choice, the guy you
• 33:04
  mentioned earlier, Devin Dampier, the quarterback of
• 33:07
  Utah, he's 12:50 so these are kind of fun I just maybe a
• 33:11
  different way of kind of looking at each of the conferences let's
• 33:14
  jump over the big 10 let. Me stop you real quick.
• 33:16
  Do you think you talk and win the Big 12?
• 33:17
  Yes, I do too. Yeah, absolutely.
• 33:19
  I'm with you. I don't like the price I was.
• 33:22
  What is it? Because I've already.
• 33:23
  Plus 550, something like that. I bet it was somebody else.
• 33:26
  I put a couple of things together.
• 33:28
  Big 10 passing yard leaders. OK, this kind of shocked me, but
• 33:33
  it went back to the conversation.
• 33:34
  I just said where the Big 12 in the SEC has these question marks
• 33:37
  at quarterback. Jade Maeva is the favorite.
• 33:42
  Now he's playing for Lincoln Riley at USC.
• 33:44
  Speaking of bad luck in one score games, which been kind of
• 33:47
  our thesis throughout the course of today, they had awful luck a
• 33:52
  year ago. And think of that Maryland loss,
• 33:53
  the Minnesota loss. They just had some incredible
• 33:56
  ones A year. Penn State, Penn State beat
• 33:59
  anyway. Naeva -150 No thanks.
• 34:02
  Dante Moore is the second choice.
• 34:04
  You know I don't. You don't like him at all?
• 34:05
  Oregon's new QB. Julian Sayin is plus 650.
• 34:10
  There's Mendoza of Indiana. But Julian Sayin's got maybe the
• 34:13
  best receiver in college football.
• 34:15
  As I might have to throw up again, here's a bet that I would
• 34:18
  take Dylan Rayola at 12 to one. That's a great price Hogle for a
• 34:26
  full year, a wide receiver group that.
• 34:29
  Way better if. You is going to be a lot.
• 34:31
  Better they are. Now I wish maybe we could end
• 34:34
  this bet like through October, because I don't know how he's
• 34:37
  going to look come November, but.
• 34:40
  They have their open practice on Saturday.
• 34:42
  We should reach out to Sip and have him on.
• 34:44
  Thursday, 12 to one for Damon Williams.
• 34:47
  Like him of Washington. Aller's 14 to 1.
• 34:49
  Where's Underwood? Is he listed?
• 34:52
  Underwood. I think I saw him.
• 34:54
  Let me scroll through. No, they have Mikey Keane listed
• 35:01
  at 100 to one along with Mark Gronowski.
• 35:04
  That's where he's at A. 100 to 1 to lead the Big 10 in passing
• 35:07
  yards this season. Where's Joe Aller?
• 35:09
  What did you say? 14 to 1, check that.
• 35:12
  Yeah, 14 to 1. Altmire right behind him at 22
• 35:14
  to one Illinois QB. There was an Iowa receiver
• 35:18
  listed. It's Jacob Gill.
• 35:20
  He's like the 15th guy that is listed there.
• 35:23
  But this was maybe of all these surprises and I I think there's
• 35:27
  been a few eye opening ones. The biggest one rushing yardage
• 35:31
  leader in the Big 10 this season.
• 35:33
  Now, my behind first went to the Penn State guys, but there's
• 35:37
  two. Of them they should, yeah,
• 35:38
  they're split them. With Singleton and and
• 35:41
  Singleton, what's the other Kirk's name?
• 35:43
  Allen Catron Allen. But they're not because again,
• 35:47
  they're splitting it up. Darius Taylor in Minnesota, I
• 35:50
  like him a lot. He is the 6th betting choice.
• 35:54
  Your betting favorite is Kamari Moulton.
• 35:58
  Really Kamari? Based on last year's results,
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  maybe he averaged what, 5.8 yards per carry?
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  Obviously in a backup roll. Offensive line returns to All
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  Americans. OK, 3 starters.
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  Another guy that was the six offensive lineman Kamari Bolton,
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  7 to 1 batting favorite in the Big 10 rushing yardage.
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  And you know, I mean, it's not crazy, I guess, right?
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  Now here's the guy I love, Jonah Coleman, that big back for
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  Washington. He's on.
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  Yeah. He's he's alone.
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  Christian Akoye reincarnated 40 years later.
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  He is. And these are all offshores.
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  These are offshore, but they're fun to look at and if you're so.
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  Inclined. And where do you have the do you
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  have the receiving numbers for the Big 10?
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  Yeah. And and how big of a how short
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  of a price is Jeremiah Smith? Let's see it here plus 350.
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  That's a pretty good price. I'll Lemon of USC along with LZ,
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  the two transfer receivers plus 859 to 1, Sarah of Indiana Moore
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  of Oregon, another USC guy. Boy, they must be loaded.
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  Tell me USC is going to win some games this year.
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  I think USC is going to sneak up on some teams.
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  I liked him a lot. They are.
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  We'll take a time out Transplays of the day or next, Miller and
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  Condon on the Iowa Sports Radio Network.
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  Hi, Miller. Condon, welcome back.
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  Final couple of minutes here on a Tuesday.
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  Back to Rayola and your thoughts.
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  Simple. Just tweeted this covers
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  Nebraska. We'll have him on Thursday if
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  his schedule allows. When it comes to wide receiver,
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  he says depth is real and size and speed stand out.
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  So we'll talk to Sip about the Huskers.
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  They have that open practice and the media just loved him.
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  Well, of course, of course they did.
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  That's been the case for the last.
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  Four my 60 your whole life, yeah.
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  Let's They're fanboys. They're not real.
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  They're not. Sip now.
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  Come on. Yeah.
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  He's kind of a fan. He's better than most.
• 37:48
  That's true. Where are you going baseball
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  wise? WNBA, What are you doing?
• 37:53
  Both. We got two in the West and three
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  in Major League Baseball. Let's start things off as Chris
• 37:59
  Paddock will face his former team, the Minnesota Twins.
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  I do not believe in Zebby Matthews.
• 38:04
  I will lay the -141 with the Tigers tonight.
• 38:08
  Freddy Peralta slowing down a little bit.
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  You look at his range over his last, I think 5 starts has not
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  been great. On the other side it is Wentz
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  for Atlanta. Not great in his own right.
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  Going to grab the plus money here plus 1/27 just to feel that
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  the Brewers finally slowed down. Give me Tampa, it's Peepo.
• 38:27
  That means I'm bored with Tampa plus 112 against the Angels.
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  Two at the West. I'm going to lay the 1 1/2 with
• 38:33
  Seattle tonight as Minnesota comes to town and the straight
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  comes to an end. Fever.
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  Lose Gibby LA on the money line plus. 115 Lucas String comes off
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  the bench with David Eichelt, their next Miller and Condon
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  with you every Monday through Friday, noon to two Iowa Sports
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  Radio Network.