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TECHNOCRACY INC.: Sinister Links Between Musk, USA, and the British Crown? · Man in America Podcast

• 0:13
  Speaker 1: Welcome to man in America, the voice sorry. Welcome to man in America, a voice of reason in a world gone mad. I'm your host, Seth Hullhouse. There are a lot of big, big chess moves going on right now, especially if you look at the geopolitical map, looking at, you know, Trump talking about bringing Canada in, bringing Greenland in. We have the recent news, which has really made a lot of people uneasy and rightfully so about Trump putting America back into the British Commonwealth, which is didn't we fight against that back in 1776 when we said we don't want to be part of that, and we don't wanna be ruled by the British crown.
• 1:01
  And so there's a lot of stuff to unpack around that. Like, is Trump playing some sort of 10 d chess? Is he being misled? How do we make sense of this? And there's so much more to even unpack surrounding this.
• 1:15
  And so joining us today is Matthew Arrott, a guy that when I talk to him, I'm thinking, I need to read more books. Like, I think this guy reads like, the the amount of books I read in a year, he reads in, like, three days. Like, he's just a a a fountain of knowledge. But in today's show, we're gonna be diving into not just the surface of what's happening right now, but deep into a thousand, two thousand, three thousand years ago and how to see what was happening in biblical times is actually affecting what's happening right now. We're gonna go into the global surveillance state.
• 1:48
  We're gonna take a look at Israel and whether Israel's controlled by the British crown and, the banking system. We're also gonna be talking about the new leader Carney of Canada and what that means, but then even taking a look at the threat of a technocratic state. You know, Elon Musk, the amount of power that he's been wielding. Is he who we think he is? The the optimistic part me wants to think so, but when I look at his past and his grandfather and the technocratic party, in Canada, there's a lot of questions that I have.
• 2:19
  And so Matt will be taking us down a deep dive into this. I will warn you ahead of time that this is gonna be a very heady discussion. This is not gonna be a little, you know, you know, twenty minute sound bite where everything makes sense, but actually, that's not why you like why you watch this show. I think that you like this show because I go into these deep dives, and I ask questions, and I I'm not I'm not happy with someone telling me that, oh, things are the way they are right now because this event that happened ten years ago. Like, I wanna know what what's the event that happened 300 ago that set the course for the event that happened ten years ago that's now controlling our current reality.
• 2:52
  And that's just where my mind goes. I I'm not a a surface kinda guy. I like going straight to the heart of things, and that's what we're gonna be doing in this discussion. I hope you can follow along. I think you will.
• 3:02
  I I stop them periodically and say, woah. Hold on. Let me make sure I'm on the right page here because I wanna make sure that I'm understanding this information. It's pretty wild. I will tell you that so he's he's, in Thailand right now, so his video signal's a little bit choppy.
• 3:16
  The audio is actually good except for a few tiny parts, so it's a really easy interview to watch and listen to. But just warning you ahead of time that his his video signal is not perfect, which that's just what happens when I'm interviewing guests, around the world. And okay. Finally, before we jump in, though, I just wanna thank those of that are watching on Rumble. We're supporting free speech.
• 3:34
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• 3:52
  Mister Matt Ehret, it's been quite a while, but it's great to have you back on the show, man. Thank you for joining us.
• 3:59
  Speaker 2: Yay, Seth. It's a pleasure to join you. I always love our little chats, so I'm looking forward to this.
• 4:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. They don't I wouldn't really call them little chats. They seem to be pretty maybe they're little and and and ease, but we we tend to dive into some pretty deep and far reaching historical things, which, tends to be where I find that your mind is, which is great because that's one of favorite places to go is, you know, I hate the, hey, let's talk about the bread and circuses or what's going on in the Kabuki Theater today. I wanna go into, like, okay, Who owns the puppets?
• 4:28
  Who made the strings? Where are the hands at? So this this will be fun.
• 4:33
  Speaker 2: I should have said, like, I I I really appreciate our full blown deep dives into ancient history and metaphysics. There we multilayered contextual dynamic. Yeah.
• 4:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah. There we go. Great. So the impetus for me reaching out to you was, these these recent events about Trump kind of talking openly about rejoining the British Commonwealth. Now here's a great unbiased article of someone that absolutely has no DEI affiliation.
• 5:01
  It says, Trump open to US joining British Commonwealth reinforcing his policies that oppress black Americans. So there's one article I found on this just for reference, but another one, which, Newsweek, Donald Trump suffers MAGA backlash over Commonwealth proposal. Hell no. So, obviously, one of the big themes of, yeah, I'd say, really, the the much more contemporary conservative movement that got Trump into office is this idea of returning back to 1776, whether it's through ending the Fed, you know, kind of really reducing the federal, you know, kind of powers, going back to, you know, the the original republic that this nation was founded as. And so the idea of joining the Commonwealth obviously goes against that.
• 5:48
  So why don't you because this is really, really your area. You understand a lot about the British crown and its influence. So I guess, first, walk us through what what happened recently with Trump and this idea to rejoin the Commonwealth, and then I'll let you just kinda take us into this deep dive from there.
• 6:06
  Speaker 2: Okay. Yeah. That's cool. And I and, yeah, I'll do my best to try to, make as transparent and easily accessible the general dynamic that I'm concerned about that I think every American and Canadian and British subject, and I say subject, not citizen for a reason, should be aware of when considering the implications of of what's been what's what's been going there over the past week, especially since it was made formally it seems formally known that King Charles the third has made the offer to Donald Trump to bring The United States into the Commonwealth, the British Commonwealth, as an associate member, which would it seems to run contrary, like you just pointed out, to the the the desire of the the base of the entirety of MAGA, which were organized around the idea, like you said, of making America America again in a proper sense that not not making America Great Britain again, but really making America great again. And it seems like instead of returning to 1776, this this runs the danger of potentially falling into a trap.
• 7:16
  And I'll say trap because I do wanna give Trump the benefit of the doubt that he's perhaps just being led by dishonest, shady advisers maybe into returning America to 1775 again, which would not be a step forward for human civilization since I believe, honestly, as a Canadian, in my research of what why the hell there is such a thing as Canada to begin with, it's because largely we failed to accept the Ben Franklin challenge of '17 '70 '6 when Ben Franklin was up here working like like heck to try to get Canadians to recognize that our only chance for a viable future was to become the fourteenth colony to sign the declaration of independence to say to the great to Great Britain that we are gonna form a new type of government founded upon natural law, the consent of the governed. And because we failed and remained, enmeshed within the crown's system of global controls as part of the worldwide empire that was the city of London, that was the global free masonic operations around the United Grand Lodge, which was the mother lodge of all other subsidiary lodges, that we deprived ourselves of having a real proper future that we were destined to have.
• 8:27
  And instead, we've we as Canadians have now been subjected to over 250 of false stories about us being a pseudo country founded upon not any battles for liberty or freedom, but rather our subservience to the British crown, which we knew unlike our, you know, English English speaking brethren southern south of the border that if we just had patience that for sometimes overbearing but otherwise concerned, loving, you know, queen Victoria spirit was gonna give us the freedoms that we longed for, which she did. You know? And it's such a a crazy stupid SIOP, I would say. It's a sacred national myth that has no bearing in truth. Every and in fact, when you start and I I think I've I've done as good of a job as I could over the past fifteen years of research, and I published four books on the untold history of Canada.
• 9:25
  That's volume one to volume four, Treader, where I tried to reconstruct as best as I could a better understanding of the story of Canada as a failed nation state and always used as a chess piece within the British Empire's great game often as a destabilizing tool against American Republican efforts at the you know, at some times and at other times, just keep Canada as a wedge to prevent the development of a US Russian friendship, which has also been the the the purpose that Canada has served the British crown over the centuries. So here I see can Trump playing, at least in words, maybe he's playing around and and he doesn't mean what he's saying, but at least in words, I'll I'll take it for for now that he's genuine, that he's entertaining the possibility of rejoining the British crown. That I see that as as a super dangerous dangerous dangerous trap. And I I sent you a slide on that note, which I think might illustrate my point pretty well, which is well, I sent you two slides. One of which is featuring two maps, one of the British Empire of '17, 1929 or '19 right.
• 10:31
  That one. Yeah. And that's those are two maps. One on the that one you're showing right to your audience right there is the British Empire as it was in the nineteen twenties. At one of its largest scales, it represented about 23% of the world's surface area.
• 10:46
  It was not just military controls, but it was it was principally banking controls. As I said, the city of London then as today was the nerve center of global banking offshore illegal transactions, especially in offshore accounts, drug money laundering, the the entirety of the Opium Wars was basically created an organized crime syndicate in Asia, specifically through the British operations in Hong Kong and Shanghai, the the epicenter of the the Hong Kong Shanghai, Hongsheng Bank Of Commerce, which to this very day, even more recently, I think decade ago, was caught laundering hundreds of billions of dollars of global drug money. So it never stopped the thing that was designed to do in 1865, and it's a London centered bank. That map is useful to just get across the the nature of British empire that we were told disappeared after World War two. Whereas I would say in reality, when you look at what actually happened, I think there was no disappearing of the British empire that allowed its colonies to go free and become independent, and now it's an American empire.
• 11:54
  The I think that that story is a is a a false story that was designed to cause our minds to get very gelatinous and weak about the fact that the empire never disappeared. And if you go to the next image to the to the left of that one, so you'll see the the the map of the British Commonwealth. If you could zoom out. Yeah. That one right there.
• 12:17
  So to this to this day, I find that we what we are told is the British Commonwealth, which still has the the crown city of London as the dominant control mechanism along with a Privy Council within various parts, you know, the Privy Council of of Canada, the Privy Council of Britain, and various other parts. You also have the five eyes security apparatus, which is intelligence dragnet around the GCHQ, the NSA, the Canadian RCMP, and CSIS, the Australian intelligence as well as South Africa. It's an it's a centrally called global intelligence dragnet that was set up really in the wake of World War two, and, that's another aspect of this global system. And the Commonwealth today represents about 56 countries. It's still about 22 or 21% of the world's surface area.
• 13:09
  Some of the most valuable resources of rep are controlled through the British Commonwealth. I would say also the world's drug money laundering terrorist financing occurs through the Cayman Islands, British Cayman Islands, British offshore banking. Recently, Toronto Dominion Bank, which is one of the biggest banks in Canada, big five banks, has been caught and was fined $3,000,000,000 for its collusion with skin cartels in its offshore accounts at laundering laundering immense amounts of money that we know where it goes, and it's been proven where it goes. So this is not a new game. It's been going back for well over a hundred and twenty, hundred and thirty years.
• 13:50
  It's a global system of control. And I would say this is what John F. Kennedy in large measure was resisting when he was murdered, was trying to bring America out of this type of influence and into into its truer foundations as a constitutional republic, which would look to other nations to assist them to stand on their own two feet and to help themselves develop you know, not to give them fish so that they could eat for a day, but to really help them learn how to fish. And that's what we saw with JFK's work with Kwame Kruma in Ghana with his efforts in in Congo with Patrice Lumumba and many other South American countries that had been colonialized. And he was looking at all of these countries making deals to say, okay.
• 14:30
  Let's give you the best of American experience in in creating entrepreneurialism, industrial heavy industrial progress, and let's provide you the means so that you can have these things too so that you can become sovereigns that have economic self direction and can negotiate with us based on equal partner status instead of being a secondary or tertiary slave state as the empires of of the old world had had enforced for centuries. So that had to be undone. And, and instead, you know, this this this strange thing took over controls of The US apparatus.
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• 16:34
  Speaker 2: Now I think with Trump, there's a Donald Trump's coming into power has provided a a lot of self examination. We have the JFK files that have been made, you know, increasingly public. I think there's still some that are that are not publicly yet. There's still a lot of material in there that's been blacked out. But at the very least, there's some spiritual self examination about what the hell we allowed to take over our society with the CIA, the a lot of these these other nasty interests over over the last few generations.
• 17:04
  So that's good. And I hope that Trump is an honest actor. But as as we've been alluding to, his his choice to tell King Charles that I love you and that I and that I love this idea of America joining the Commonwealth as an associate member. We could stop that share if you want, by the way. But Sure.
• 17:24
  Is, I think, a a super dangerous trap and one which unfortunately plays in.
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: Oh, so you you're oh, there you go. Your your your video had been frozen for a few minutes or so, but your audio has been perfect. So, okay, you you can continue, though.
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: Okay. Okay. Cool. Yeah. So I think I think it it does unfortunately play into the type of program that was laid out by the godfather of what became the European Union, back in the early twenties.
• 17:51
  His name was count, or Richard Kudenhove Kalergi. And a lot of people are aware of the Kalergi plan. You probably are too, as part of one small aspect of the broader vision of Kalergi. And and I think the thing that's become permitted to be popular in modern society or in in the conspiracy research realm that that we tend to navigate in is his efforts or his discussion about homogenizing, destroying the the the character of sovereign nation states by opening borders and homogenizing all cultures into a blob. That's an aspect of it.
• 18:26
  But I think I would say the most what that's what's popularly discussed, but I think what's even more important than that is the fact that's often missed is that he is the governing mind behind what became the European Union before anyone else. And even the, you know, the flag itself, which you could show. Maybe I I sent you a slide of the account Kunova Klergi's face and this the the yeah. There you go. That's him on the right with Otto von Habsburg, the heir of the Habsburg dynasty.
• 19:02
  Nominally, that dynasty was dismantled after World War one, but the leading families that were dominant for centuries within the Habsburg architecture did not disappear. These are we're talking multigenerational ancient ancient families with villas, palazzos, castles, huge estates, hugely powerful inbred families. They didn't disappear. They were just simply told you're gonna have a new type of role to play for it, period, before you gain ascendancy again. And Otto von Habsburg was supposed to be the grand emperor of that Habsburg empire of the the, you know, the Austro Hungarian empire that, was taken down.
• 19:44
  But he was be he became sort of the the student and largely the heir of Kudenhove Kalergi's legacy after, after World War one. So that's him with a mustache. Okay. Now Kalergi Quick question.
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Just to just kind of piece some of these things together that makes sense to me. Okay. So one thing that I've, you know, gone through in this you this this kinda diving down the rabbit holes is you you think, okay. Who's who's running the show?
• 20:15
  Right? Who's at the top of the pyramid? And it's not easy. Right? I think there's a you even find that, oh, there's, the 13 families, but there's also there's there's a families behind those families.
• 20:24
  Right? And it's it's something that is is very difficult. Now one question I do have in in looking at all of this is that and despite this is a complex question, but maybe you have a way of simplifying it, is when I look at the threats to America and look at who's trying to control America, I see that the the CCP, which I've studied extensively, they've obviously they have their own plans. You know, they've got their hundred year march. They've got, you know, there's been leaked speeches.
• 20:50
  So I I look at them as a threat. There's lot of infiltration from them. Also, a lot of what you can see is that a lot of America and even going back in the JFK files, you see Israel is a very common nation. Right? Israel Mossad that seems to be working very closely with the CIA, but also there's some people that wanna say, oh, everything is Israel or everything is the Jews.
• 21:10
  I think that's also incorrect. Because, like like, when you say everything is one thing, it's like I think in America, we have this tendency to simplify things into black and white. Oh, there's a good guy and a bad guy. It's it's so much more complex than that. Yeah.
• 21:24
  And so when we're looking at the role of the crown, and we look at the the map that we showed, the British crown, the city of London. Right? And one thing I have understood is that it it seems like the city of London seems to be the head of the banking snake. Right? The banking empire, which, in my opinion, has been, critical in this global control.
• 21:44
  Right? You control the money, you control everything. That so much of this does go back into the city of London and, you know, the Bank of England, you which you trace back into you have the famous you know, the Rothschilds and all these different, you know, wealthy banking families. So but as that ties in, so a lot of people are are very focused on Israel, but do you think that Israel is really just a pawn being controlled by the British crown? Like, if you look at how Israel even goes back in the Balfour Declaration, going back in the Rothschilds, look at the Rothschilds being, you know, really center on the city of London.
• 22:18
  So do you think that a lot of this information does end up kind of pulling back to the British crown, and is do you think that Israel is acting independent of the British crown, or are they just another pawn that's also being controlled by the city of London with this long term goal of bringing America back under the control of the crown? And I I know that I threw a lot of things at you, but how how maybe you can help me simplify some of this stuff.
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I totally get where you're coming from, and your question is super clear to me. And I do think that Israel is how how should I say this? Okay. I'll say I'll I'll I'll approach because I I could approach it in in a number of ways, but I'll do it this way.
• 23:04
  The Rothschilds who did play a role, a big role in buying up a big chunk of Palestine and and, you know, playing a big role they played a big role in financing the movement of Jewish families into the Middle East before even Israel was established as a state, they never lived in Israel. So the the the the the actual Rothschild family, the the leading family members, never at any point chose to live in this region of the globe, which is geographically the in the intersecting zone, geographically speaking, of all of the ancient civilizations of the world from Asia and Russia and Africa and Europe and Central Asia, all sort of converge in this pivot. What what Halford Mackinder, the founder of modern geopolitics called the world island, that center. He made the point whoever could control that center could control the world. And I think that going back to even the days of Julian the apostate and the leading grand strategist of the Roman Empire, they saw that region for that that that that that from that lens on the one hand, on a higher lens because, I mean, whoever could keep that region destabilized who can control it could prevent the potential collusion of various civilization states from working together.
• 24:24
  And the empire always thrives on divide to conquer, get people of different civilizations to go into a state mentally of hating on the other and of fight and of believing that their only course of action to relating with their neighbors is to fight for whatever, you know, jihad or whatever reason, the territory, lumber, whatever. There's always gonna be a reason to to initiate conflict. So divide to conquer. On the other hand, on a deeper hand, I think that the founders of of modern Zionism as we know it, it's not an it's not an a very old ideology. Like, the form that it that it takes under people like Benjamin Netanyahu or his father who was the personal secretary to Vladimir Jabotinsky, who ran the Ergun, you know, night raids, and was you know, David Ben Gurion, the first prime minister of Israel, called Vladimir Jabotinsky Vladimir Hitler.
• 25:19
  Because he's like, look. This guy is modeling himself on Hitler Hitler's program except that he's not allowed, and he tried. He didn't offer to become a member of the Hitler pro of the Hitler Nazi party, except Hitler said no because you're a Jew. So but otherwise, Ben Gurion said there's not that much difference between your approach and the fascist approach of Europe as far as trying to impose a hierarchy of ubermenschen onto reigning over undermenschen over better humans over underhumans as a organizing principle, including your your use of terrorism that you think is valid if it's for the sake of a of a just cause. So his Irgun night raids that involved, you know, like, things like the Mai Lai massacre that were that was done later on in Vietnam was already being done by the the Jabotinsky night raids that were targeting whole communities, families.
• 26:10
  And inversely, the Muslim Brotherhood, which by the way, were also being created by the British Empire through British Free Masonic Outfits, which is completely documented. The Muslim Brotherhood from 1928 when Albana was was set up to create it was a British Free Masonic front group designed to also collude on an esoteric level with the Jabotinsky groups in killing Jewish settlers before Israel was created in order to inflame hostilities that would then demand an eye for an eye revanchism, as the French call it, revengeism, for this multigenerational sort of hostility. So if you look at a lot of the founders of modern Zionism in that form, you'll have to look to people like and this is, again, recognized, Lord Shaftesbury, the cousin of Lord Palmerston, ston, who ran the British Empire, who was the prime minister at the worst times who oversaw the the British Empire during the American Civil War and who put all of his efforts into breaking up the union by providing British support to the Confederacy, the slave power to have warships made by Britain, logistics, monetary support to break up the union to create a, again, a divide to conquer thing, right, from to destroy the enemy from within.
• 27:25
  That lord Shaftesbury was known as the world's first modern Zionist, and and the guy himself was an anti Semite. He didn't respect the Jews, but yet he devoted himself to the cause of creating a new ideology that would proselytize amongst especially the Eastern European and Russian Jews, which he sent delegations and whole missionary schools to go and convince the Jews that it's their destiny to go and, like, leave their ancient homelands of Europe and go and live in the desert. But he hated the Jews. So it's like, why did he do that? And then you look at the people who who cosigned the Balfour Accords.
• 27:56
  You know, Lord Balfour just being one, but you had Lord Milner was a coauthor of the Balfour Accords with, what's his name? Leo Avery. Lord Balfour, Leo Avery were were openly profascist, hostile, antisemites. So it's like, why did they devote themselves to the cause of creating a Jewish state? They were devoted only to the church of the British Empire.
• 28:19
  So did they have maybe a duplicitous motive? I would say, certainly. So the way I see it when I look at Israel on the one hand, I I I see something that had served a purpose. And, I mean, you have to think we are used to you and I, and and, you know, we're born into this society, which was already being like, it was already being manipulated before you and I were born into it. And as everybody listening, right, it's not the it's not all it's not all on us, but it's like we there's a lot of encouragement by the the the cultural and economic and and and educational standards that we were trained by to think very short termism.
• 29:01
  Maybe, you know, think next year maybe or think maybe about our kids' university when we put a little money aside. Most people don't even can't even think that far because the economy is so crap. They could think maybe moment to moment, paycheck to paycheck. But the oligarchy thinks in terms of ages. Like, they think in terms of millennial ages.
• 29:24
  And so it it it takes some effort to train the mind to think on that level. This goes even beyond communism as far as I could see it. Like, this communism was created in in in the the the destructive fashion. We know it. Karl Marx and Engels authored their Das Kapital in, what, 1865, volume one, volume two, 1868, volume three, 18 70.
• 29:46
  This thing goes like, they're thinking ages. So when I'm looking at Israel, I'm looking at a Henry Kissinger had said when he was asked in 02/2012 by an Israeli newspaper, what do you what what do you see for Israel's future in ten years? This is 2012, and he said, this this knight of the order of Saint George and Saint Michael of the British Empire, this sir Henry Kissinger, was the secretary of state of the United Nations, said in ten years, there will be no Israel. Now we're a little bit above that. We we've we've passed that deadline.
• 30:24
  However, he confused the journalist when he said that. He was like, can you please expand on what you're saying? Like, didn't you devote your career towards the cause of Zionism? Like, why are you saying what you're saying? And he just repeated himself.
• 30:37
  So I think he knew the joke that the off that the journalist didn't understand, which is that Israel serves a purpose within, but it's not an end unto itself. And I think when you look at the greater Israel ideology, which people like sir Charles Warren, the the grandmaster Freemason of the the Kwatore Kwanadi Lodge, which worked with king Edward the seventh who was, like, you know, one of the most vicious kings and grand strategists of the world who did probably the most to organize World War one to kick over the chessboard and prevent prevent the spread of the American system of republicanism around the world. That that king Edward the seventh who worked with Charles Warren, who also oversaw the Jack the Ripper murders, and I think it was connected, and that's a whole other topic. But Charles Warren made the point that we need to revive, to reconstruct Solomon's temple. He was saying this in the eighteen sixties, '18 seventies when he was doing his freemasonic rituals under Solomon's minds that he was excavating because they have a belief amongst his inner esoteric circle that the idea of what Solomon's temple meant is not what it says in the Bible, in the Old Testament.
• 31:54
  In the minds of the oligarchy, of which Charles Warren was a leading official member, it seems to me, and I and I've read their writings on this topic, they believe it's a central node of a world high priesthood of global mass human sacrifice. I mean, to a certain degree, you you see it alluded to within the Old Testament, though Solomon is is a much more sympathetic man, than the one than the Solomon that they believe in. But but still, it's acknowledged that Solomon at his weaker moments did start worshiping Baal and, you know, Molech Molech, his weaker moments when he was appeasing his his wives, his many, many wives. And that to worship Moloch means you're killing kids. You're you're you know, that was the point of Moloch worship is you're you're putting child on a fire children on a fire fiery altar, usually your firstborn, in order for the gods to give you things that you want.
• 32:55
  And that was what I think that the oligarchy has been obsessed with since the advent of Christianity is to undo the the the disruptive nature of of Christianity and and, you know, principled oh, there you go. Yeah. That's a a nineteenth century etching of a very well described and documented practice of Moloch that your audience is looking is now looking at, which is typically a, you know, a steeler or there was some form maybe not steel. It might have been iron or some other some other element that was made very hot through the furnace. And all you know, it was it was like a Sunday a Sunday sacred practice to go there, listen to a sermon, and watch the high priesthood take a child that was gifted to Moloch to be burned alive.
• 33:42
  And they did this a lot. And in in the minds of Charles Warren and King Edward the seventh, that was the the sixth satanic spiritual meaning of the of that region of the Middle East that they wanted to revive around Solomon's Temple, which also involved, in their mind, the Dome Of The Rock, which is today under a mosque, but it's the the the fabled area where Abraham was mandated to sacrifice his son. And, you know, God sent down the angel to say, hey. Don't do that anymore. We're we're over that now.
• 34:15
  But that rock is the rock that's under the Dome Of The Rock, and it still exists today. And that that's something many of the the Benjamin Netanyahu Netanyahu, Greater Israel fanatics, want to blow up and turn into a new, you know, Zionist site, sacred site, and in Charles Warren's writings on the topic. And I say Charles Warren because he's so important, and people don't realize how important this guy is, but he's so important. Him as well as sir Francis bay Francis Burton, who was a a high level another high level free Masonic, Rosicrucian, who worked closely with this guy who trained and inspired Alastair Crowley, the the big satanist of the the twentieth century. They both believed that oh, there he is.
• 35:01
  Sir Charles Warren. That's him right there. Head of the the Metropolitan Police during the rap or Jack the Ripper murders, which I I go through in one of volume three of my my revenge of the mystery cults. And as it says even on Wikipedia, he, advanced the Temple Mount, movement, which is really a driving force behind Netanyahu today.
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: Which is kinda Strandell's comment.
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. I hear I see you wanna say something.
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Even this brief description here of him, it's like, okay. So he was a British army officer of the Royal Engineers. He was one of the earliest European archaeologists of the biblical holy man or sorry, Holy land, and particularly the Temple Mount. And he was previously the commissioner of the police of the metropolis, the head of the London Metropolitan Police during the Jack Ripper murders.
• 35:46
  It's like, this is a really strange background. This guy's all he's the head of police, and he's also an archaeologist focused on the the biblical Holy Land. Again, just just strange, you know, piecing things together, but, you know so one thing that's gonna make sure I'm kinda following you here, what I'm gathering from what you're saying is, a, that almost nothing is as it seems. Right? Like, we can't you can't look at even Israel, right, which is, you know, older than most of our grand or sorry, younger than most of our grandparents, that it's not as simple as it seems that that actually these things go back generations.
• 36:26
  And that that's what I like about you know, I've I've you know, again, I mentioned, you know, studying China, know, CCP, but also just Chinese history. Like, I'm fascinated with the five thousand year Chinese history to the point that, you know, my wife and I have watched, like, you know, the the hundred episode, you know, it's kind of epic of the three kingdoms, right, where you you're watching
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: Amazing historical things happening, and you see that
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: Oh, I I I watched that too. I watched that too on YouTube, and I watched all of the, like, 90 or hundreds. Yeah. It was pretty well done. Yeah.
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: Exactly. But what you see, though, is that, you know, like, Cao Cao, for instance, or some of these leaders, they're not trying to gain power that they're gonna keep for their generation. They're looking at, okay. How can I, over the next five generations, take control of this particular region? And so that and their whole purpose might just be to raise the one son that carries on the next the next step of the plan.
• 37:15
  And I think that that's what you also see with these royal families is that, you know, we look at things now. It's like, oh, you know, oh, you know, prime delivery is not available tomorrow. Okay. I'll go somewhere else if I can't get my package tomorrow. Like, we're we're so, like, this fast food nation, like, everything's instant that we can't even plan for ten years, let alone 10 generations, which if you if you trace these bloodlines, you see that that's been part of their overall overall strategy is this is long term planning where you mentioned, you know, planning over millennia.
• 37:44
  So what I'm gathering from, you know, some things that you're saying is that even the modern day Israel as we know it, you you can't look at it in isolation. You know, going back you mentioned even some of the founders, right, that signed off on the founding of Israel were anti Semitic. Right? That they they hated the Jews, and so it's what I'm gathering here is that even modern day Israel, Mossad, the CIA, these intelligence agencies, that a lot of this does tie back into the city of London, into the global banking cartels, into these these, you know, families, these bloodline families that have long since ruled the Earth. A lot of their beliefs and practices go back to biblical times and before, right, where you see that some of these you know, whether it's a synagogue of Satan or the worship of Moloch, the sacrifice sacrificing of children that you can't just look at and say, oh, these these, you know, kind of these satanic elites that they like to sacrifice kids.
• 38:43
  It's like, well, that's been happening since the dawn since the beginning of time. Right? So this is a much bigger and longer story that we're we're just in the last chapter or the second to last chapter of a of a hundred chapter book, and we can't understand what's happening in this chapter without understanding what happened in chapter 50 or chapter three. And so, anyway, I'm just kinda making sure I'm following along here.
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: Absolutely. No. I I context is so important. It's so important, and I appreciate so much what you just said because so many people wanna try to get the easy answer without doing the work of thinking about the color the the topography of these ancient dynamics. Things that happened thousands of years ago have more bearing in some measure on what's happening happening to us right now than things that happened ten years ago or five years ago.
• 39:34
  You know? And I think, yeah, like, the when you look at a lot of the leading core families at the inner echelons from those that we can gather at least you know, I just I just went to Rome with my wife, a few weeks ago, and it was cool. There's a lot of beauty in Rome, but there's a lot of there's there's something off too. Right? Like, I don't if you ever been to Rome.
• 39:56
  Have you been to Rome?
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: No. I've I've been to to a lot of a lot of Europe, but not not Rome.
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: Okay. That was it was it was our first experience there, and we went we spent two weeks, and we we saw as much as we could the Vatican Vatican City. We spent a lot of time there at the Vatican Museum, the old palazzos, many of them double as as ancient museums. Lot of lot of ancient sites too, but, you know, go got some Barbarini Palazzo and the Orsinis. And, I mean, there's so many fascinating things that showcase, on the one hand, a high level of human accomplishment and beauty when you look at some of the architectural miracles that were were pulled off.
• 40:36
  It's great. But then there's this at this this evidence of a clash of something satanic, something that was also co opting and turning that against humanity as well. And there's obelisks everywhere. There's demonic imagery in your face, and people don't even wanna look at it. Maybe because for people who are Italians living there, it's just too much of a of a reminder that there's this oppressive force subtly just sort of always there.
• 41:05
  It's it's it's almost a suffocating reminder of this ancient power that's that never disappeared. And and, you know, you you you got these these old families, some of them that can, you know, date themselves back to the emperor Claudius and and Vespasians and and the leading families of the Roman patrician class and even before that. They never disappeared. They they they there does seem to be something amongst the oligarchical cultures that as an organizing principle presumes that most of human beings have to remain subservient to the status of talking cow as as an underhuman slave class of slave families while the the superior bloodlines are privileged to be able to access a deeper wider spectrum of their capabilities mentally, at least. But there's something unnatural about that too because that's not the way human beings were made.
• 42:04
  Right? Like, humans are are made in the image of of god. We we all have an equal claim to inalienable rights. And the oligarchy is very offended by that that presumption. And though they can't necessarily put that genie back in the bottle because the revolution of seventeen seventy six did happen, What they can do is thus corrupt it and infiltrate it within from within so that we forget the meaning of what that e even is.
• 42:29
  So people could say the word, yeah, we're made in the living image of God, but they don't understand why that's true. They just believe it without foundation, and thus it could be easily undermined. And John Quincy Adams, I think, said it really well that we must never allow ourselves to go off searching for monsters to destroy because as soon as we allow ourselves into that crusader mindset of of going into wars beyond our borders, we lose ourselves. We lose our soul, and we lose our the the humility that is necessary to become sought to be sovereign. We always have to be humble.
• 42:59
  We can't be so prideful and boastful that we can say that we have to go and and, you know, go to war with another peoples based upon how great we think we are and virtuous we think we are, which is what made the Crusaders so dumb and useful idiots back a thousand years ago that they went along with this forever war strategy initiated by these satanic high priests masquerading some often as Christian, but they were never Christian in their heart. They were satanic that were within Venice, within Rome, even within Constantinople, I would say, in the the eleventh century, twelfth, thirteenth century that got clashes of civilizations forever, and that's what, you know, the Trotskyists ironically, the Trotskyists, the the communist Trotskyists that were funded by the the shifts and the Warburgs and the the the Wall Street London London, you know, billionaire, trillionaire class of the pre World War one. These are the same figures, followers of Trotsky who founded the neoconservative movement. People like James Burnham, Trotsky's personal assistant, became the founder of modern neoconservatism in 1940. Albert Volsteader, another former Trotskyist, became a a leading neocon as he became the the the grand strategist of Rand Corporation starting in the nineteen late forties all the way up through the nineteen sixties and seventies that turned worked to infiltrate The USA, infiltrate especially the Republican Party to convert it more and more from the the the party of Lincoln and McKinley into the party of empire of of Dick Cheney.
• 44:29
  Right? So it's it was subtle, but it happened, and it was premised on the revival of the crusader tradition that Samuel P. Huntington of the trilateral commission put into words when he called in the nineteen seventies for a clash of civilizations. And, again, that wasn't an original thesis by by Samuel P. Huntington, who was an assistant to Zbigniew Brzezinski and a friend of Henry Kissinger, both within the trilateral commission.
• 44:53
  He was he was basically just simply rehashing the thesis of sir Bernard Lewis, the British orientalist of of MI six who had put forth the arc of the arc of crisis thesis in the night early sixties. That was then just plagiarized probably by intention and cooperation by Huntington to make it seem American as a design, but it was never that at all. It was always British. So I think that the idea of the British was to convert The USA, especially over the dead bodies of JFK and and Bobby Kennedy into the the dumb giant, the useful sort of, you know, marcher lord of the British empire, kinda like what Persia became. After the the the Babylonian priesthood took control of Persia and started using it as a better enforcer of their will to power over the ancient world, it was never Persia making its own designs.
• 45:41
  It was, I think, this Babylonian priesthood that then decided when Persia was defeated by Alexander the Great that they needed to find better fertile soil, which they saw in Rome. And they made that the their new focus to make that the epicenter of their world empire to to, you know, have an ideal of of enslaving the world under a a high priesthood of mass that would that would utilize mass sacrifice, very inhuman, sacrilegious mode of worshiping your idea of God. And it didn't you know, it it ultimately petered out largely because of the efforts of some very courageous early Christians that that didn't wanna go along with that type of ethos. And at a certain point, after the empire had had weakened and and expanded beyond its ability to sustain itself. It broke up into two parts with the Western empire collapsing, you know, and those leading patrician families migrated like a slime mold into the the the more geopolitically useful areas.
• 46:42
  At least some stayed in Rome. Other others went to Venice, others to Amalfi. This the you know, that gave rise to the city state. Fake republics, Genoa became another one, which dominated and controlled this forever clash of civilizations. They they're the ones who spawned these satanic secret societies like the Templars, like the Knights of Malta, like the you know, well, those two sister organizations were very close together.
• 47:10
  Never converters. Think left hand, right hand path to the same thing. Later on, the Teutonic knights were a subsidiary of the the, you know, knights Templar for the Germanic race. You had versions for Portugal and Spain, but they all had the same sort of mandate, and they never disappeared. After even after the crusades came to an end, they sort of rebranded themselves and continued to operate under the surface and yet miss profoundly misshaping the human experience by initiating so many assassinations of great leaders, wars, unnecessary ones always.
• 47:46
  And, you know, to this very day, you look at it. Like, look at the this is what spawned the Jesuit order. This is what spawned the Anglican order in 1534. This is what spawned the Knights of Malta, which are the rebranded Knights Hospitaller, the Knights of Saint John of Jerusalem that that was created to oversee the Crusades. It's the same thing.
• 48:02
  The Knights Templar, as Albert Pike said, with pride is that the Knights Templars were rebranded into the the Jesuits. And I think he's right in my research. It's true. It is the same thing. And they've infiltrated and worked in tandem with each other to get nations into false oppositions, you know, dichotomies that would be controlled left right dualisms to then forget the principle and instead fight over some left right idea of what the what people think the argument is.
• 48:34
  You know? Free market versus statism or something. It's it's overly simplistic. Bottom up versus top down. You know?
• 48:40
  Let's fight. And it it's not it's not like that. It's there there's something that's been out by design of that dispute, And the oligarchy is laughing at us when we allow ourselves to be caught in that because John F. Kennedy and and Lincoln McKinley didn't have that problem. Do we do things top down?
• 48:57
  Do we do things with the nation state? You know? Or do we do things bottom up, you know, based upon only the people's will individually? And it's like, well, it's a bit of both at the same time. It's not one or the other.
• 49:08
  You don't have to make that dichotomy. Yeah. It's that same black today.
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: Right? It's the same kind of simplification of of that. And so so kinda coming coming full circle. Right? Because this is this is very helpful historical context to look at this overall chess game and this this moving around.
• 49:27
  And so what we have right now is obviously, we have this this interesting news bit of Trump, you know, and the the British Commonwealth, which has unsettled a lot of people, rightfully so. But how do you tie that into Trump all of a sudden, the this this new idea of making Canada part of The United States, making Greenland the part of The United States? There's a lot of people that have talked about the North American Union. They've looked into the different like, the ten ten ten regions. So how does that all fit into this?
• 50:00
  Because it's like, you know, a lot of people think that, oh, well, you know, if Trump can negotiate and get Canada to to join America, well, it's he's almost he'd have to be negotiating with the British crown. Right? Because as you've put out, it's like it's a it's a little bit of a psyop to think that Canada's not controlled by the British crown. And so how does like, how do you make sense of all of these things that have happened just in the past couple of months?
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: Okay. Well, you noticed that our new prime minister unelected, he he might get elected, in the sense that he just I think he's gonna be calling an election pretty soon in Canada. Mark Carney is a major international central banker. He's also on the Bilderberger steering steering committee member. He's a World Economic Forum trustee.
• 50:41
  But I think most notably for me at least is that he's also a member of the the knight he's a knight of the order of Malta, which is the knights hospitaler. It's the sister order to the Templars, and so was Eric Prince. You know? So are many of the the infiltrators who have been trying to co opt MAGA into and and convert the MAGA movement, which I believe is a legitimate patriotic movement, probably the only hope for for the for saving the republic or humanity is located in large measure within the MAGA movement. But there's been an effort to infiltrate and co opt it and nudge it towards a reidentity, a rebranding into a reactionary crusader force, which is being in I think overseen by a high priesthood of Gnostic satanic cultists who don't who act Christian, but they're not.
• 51:37
  It's like the church of Satan. It's not it's not it's not the synagogue of Satan in this case, but they work with Satanists who act like Jews but are not and Satanists who act like Muslims but they're not. Their primary identity is Satanists, and they work together kinda like the the Templars are renowned for having worked with, collaborated with for centuries, the order of the Israeli Nizari Ismailis that came to be known as the assassins or Hashashins because they were Hashish smokers that would go into an altered state when they would carry out their their their assassinations of targets. And there was a hypnotic induction mystery cult initiation process. And in large measure, the the the Templars were known to have even taken many of their rituals from the Hashashins, including their base of operations in under the Temple Of Solomon, which was the the home base of the Knights Templar.
• 52:35
  The Knights Templars for a couple of centuries even after the Kingdom Of Jerusalem was was created as the base of this forever war between religions. So, again, you had collaborations where the Nizarius Mailees, who today are run by the Aga Khan number four, were back then a millennium ago killing the enemies of the of the crusader Templars, and the Templars were killing, assassinating the enemies of the Nizari Ismailis. They were collaborating. Saladin Saladin, who survived two assassination attempts in his life, even had his soldiers capture a few of these these assassins, and they admitted that. And that's that's been on the public record for a thousand years.
• 53:18
  So you have this collusion amongst satanists acting like they are righteous, whatever the, you know, target religion is that they're that they wanna infiltrate to get the nation to get that target religion to self destruct under its own ego. They they profiled psych they're they're very good at profiling target audiences to get the the audience to become their own enemy. This is what Shakespeare is also exposing in how this works in Othello. If people read or watch a good rendition of Othello, Shakespeare showcasing how the enemy, which is Iago, the Venetian grand strategist, is infiltrating and winning the hearts and trust of his targets who he wants to have destroy themselves, Othello, Desdemona, Othello's best friend, who all commit self annihilation by the end of the thing.
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: So so just a quick So Shakespeare's show me wanna make sure I'm catching up with you. So, basically, what you're saying is that I mean, contemporarily, that there's that the MAGA movement, which you you're saying is is this very powerful force. And I agree. I I think it is is a is a populist movement. The core of it is just a collection of individuals that have collectively said, look.
• 54:22
  Our country's really off. We need to go back to its founding, back to the principles of of 1776. We need to dismantle this modern deep state that has grown with this huge apparatus. And so that's, I think, is genuine. And that that's where I think the real power lies that the elites are the most scared of is the collective.
• 54:37
  Right? When you have enough people that collectively point at them and say, you're the enemy, not my neighbor with the Biden sign. What you're saying though is that actually that a lot of this MAGA movement has been co opted by Satanists. Am I correct in in hearing that?
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I think that there is and when I say that, I don't say that word loosely. I don't I don't throw that around too too fancifully. I I do think that the the inner core, the esoteric inner elite of the Templars, the Jesuits, at the higher ups. I'm not talking about the lower order, uninitiated, know, members of the the order of Malta or or Templars or or Freemasons or Jesuits.
• 55:16
  I'm not saying that they're all in the in the big joke. I'm not saying that. I know some people who are Freemasons and are Jesuits and are members of the order of Malta, they're not bad people. They're good people. But there's an initiatory degree degree system built into those structures, and it might the evidence I've looked at show tells me that at the inner orders, at the at the esoteric intersection, there is an awareness that it's the inside inside out game.
• 55:41
  Everything that you thought was the good is the bad, and the bad is the good. The up is the down, and the down is the up. And and the sacred is actually the profane. And there's there's a certain set of practices that are passed down to groom next generation, multigenerational conspiracies of personality types that will be broken of their humanity, ideally to as young of an age as possible in order to be reconstructed with a new type of fanatical ethos and aesthetical value that will judge ugly as beauty, evil as good. Right?
• 56:11
  And there's there's a way that that seems to be done with the help of various hypnotic techniques, drugs, practices that merge opposite. Yeah. You got it. So, yeah, I I think that the Knights of Malta are one of the core bad apples. And I think, you know, earlier on when we began our conversation, was bringing up Kudenhova Kalerghi, member of the order of Malta along with Otto von Habsburg, and many of the leading families, including the Thotenund Taxes family, which is still very powerful.
• 56:42
  There you go. You read my mind. So that's the first quote of two that, actually, my wife pulled these out of this book called An Idea Conquers the World, written in 1954 by Kudenhove Richard Kudenhove Kalergi describing the foundation of pan a a world set up by pan, regional fascist organizations. He had an idea of a pan Europa. That was his pan European movement that he set up in the early twenties, became the foundation of what became the European Union.
• 57:15
  He had an idea for North America, the North American Union.
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: I I have to read this real quick.
• 57:19
  Speaker 2: Parts of the world that
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: It's bigger on my screen. Let me read this real quick. It says, I was aware from the start that the main obstacle to the unification of Europe would be the British question. For whilst on the one hand, the British Isles are an essential part of Europe, they are also the nerve center of a worldwide empire extending over five continents. This special position makes it very difficult for Britain to tie herself exclusively to Europe.
• 57:44
  A union of Great Britain with Pan Europe might cause Canada to secede from the empire and join Pan America. With all the incalculable consequences such a move would entail for the political and economic unity of the empire, Only one solution seemed possible, and this was a complicated and difficult one, a united continent working in close cooperation with Great Britain and her empire. Clearly, Pan Europe and the empire could not afford to pursue separate policies toward the rest of the world. Europe's purpose could be achieved by associating Britain with the European system without making her part of it. Yep.
• 58:24
  Speaker 2: Yep. That's a big one. That's a so he's laying it out pretty concretely in 1954 of what his die idea is for the template of how the world could move into a one world government, but he he goes a little bit further in the quote that I sent you. So maybe you could read that one too. I I think it follows up pretty nicely from this.
• 58:42
  No. No. Go back. Go back. There's one more quote from Kudenhova Kalergi.
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: Oh, I'll open it real quick. It's different.
• 58:51
  Speaker 2: Oh. Oh, maybe I didn't send it to you. If I didn't, that's okay. We can just look at the, the the image of the North American Union in red. How about that?
• 59:01
  Oh, here we go. Yeah. There that yeah. Read that quote right there.
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: Had wishful thinking influenced my program, I should certainly have suggested as a European Union under British leadership, the king of England acting as hereditary president of The United States Of Europe. But alas, the problem was much more complicated than it seemed. In fact, the British question was the most difficult and delicate problem of all the complicated problems confronting Pan Europe. England was looking toward a new organization of its imperial unity that it could not and would not imperil by any European entanglements. After all, Canada was American, South Africa, African, Australia, Australian, and India Asiatic, and together they formed with Britain the greatest empire of all history.
• 59:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Right there. So, yeah, there it is. That's that's sort of the outline. And, again, his movement is probably more powerful today in many ways than people realize more than even when he was alive.
• 1:00:06
  And if you look at people like Mario Draghi, who also was very close worked very closely with Mark Carney in establishing the bail in mechanism, oversaw much of what became the European Union, the Lisbon Treaty that centralized that tried to create sort of a North United States Of Europe, but without the authenticity of The United States Of America because it was all premised around the idea of a hereditary order of control systems as he calls for of a British empire being in the controlling managerial position of this Pan Europa merged with a North American Union largely through the assistance of Canada. You know, he's got this thing kind of gamed out a little bit that, this is this is literally what's being pushed forth right now as we speak with the idea of consolidating it under the European Commission, a European banking structure that could have more control without the opposition of of sovereign nations of Europe that try to have a say in the destiny of Europe as a whole with the idea that Russia has to be destroyed because that's the big biggest worst thing in the world is just is Russia. So we have to, like, give up our our personal freedoms to unify around, know, destroying Europe Russia.
• 1:01:18
  It's all fraud. But but Kearny is is very, very deeply baked into that. And so if you show the other image based on what was just said by Kudenhove and Kalerigian, let's show the image of the North American Union, which is an idea first put forth. Sorry. The North American Technate, the Technate of America, which is a 1933 image that was drafted, of from the the Technocracy Incorporated, an organization that grew out of the tech the World Technical Alliance of, the New School of Social Research under Thorsten Verblen and, John Dewey, two Fabian society antihumanists that had infiltrated The United States.
• 1:02:00
  Also occultists. I think they were they were taught by, William James, the the American president of the Society of Psychical Research, the the society that was set up by the British to try to normalize paranormal psychic and other types of ghostly phenomenon and make it part of the the human like, the the the zeitgeist. So that Society of Psychical Research was what William James set up in Harvard in America in the eight nineteenth century. This is what he taught as a doctrine of occultism to his students, of which John Dewey was a leading member. This is what was set up by Dewey when he when he created a subgroup within Columbia University that broke out and became New School of Social Research.
• 1:02:41
  This is what the Technical Alliance was created to serve in 1921 or 1920 under Thorsten Verblen, who was also working with leading members of the Frankfurt School of George Lukacs and the Galileo Circle that was trying to put forth a thesis to reset human civilization around this idea that we could be brought to a state of existential despair and hopelessness, at which point we could be given a shock that would break us of all of our traditions, belief in God, family, nation, and thus, embrace a new type of human that had never exist been existed before, which is what the the Frankfurt School was set up to do with these creatures who were who were forming what became the Technocracy Incorporated, the mechanization of human society around a social engineering master elite. And so Howard Scott, who was a student of Verblen, set up this Technocracy Incorporated to solve the Great Depression, get rid of governments, get rid of business, get rid of private ownership. And he said that, you know, he he's probably I mean, this guy was was more fascist than anybody that's ever existed, and and his organization was illegalized in World War two at the very beginning.
• 1:03:56
  The the the head of the Canadian branch of Technocracy Inc. Was a man named Joshua Haldeman, who later on was known as Elon Musk's grandfather and who devoted himself to this cause of creating an an a union, a centralized union of technocrats, of technicians that would embrace Greenland, Canada, you know, The USA, all the way down to the Darien Gap and and even northern parts of South America as one techmate, and that would be a fascist techmate, which I I don't think they could have done that peacefully even though they said that they wanna do this all for peaceful means in their in their in their public writings, the fact was that, I think it was understood, that Mexico and all of the other nations of Latin America were not gonna simply just lay down without a fight. It was probably gonna require a military war to go in and invade and take control of those those regions, which would mean a lot of dead people, before this centralized system could be brought into play. I've seen a lot of evidence that shows me, and I know a lot of people might not like what I'm gonna say because they really have a heroic image of Elon Musk as the coolest guy in the world, but I think a lot of that's just branding personally.
• 1:05:08
  And I think that the ideas of his grandfather are very much alive in the form of Elon, including how if you want to be a member of Technocracy Inc, all members had to take on they had to get rid of their names and change it for a series of numbers and x's in their names, including, Elon Joshua Haldimand, which had a series of numbers and x's
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 1: From Elon's son.
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 2: That Elon even chose. You know? That's the thing. Right? Wow.
• 1:05:32
  So when even
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 1: Let me So yeah. Go ahead. No. No. No.
• 1:05:36
  No. Okay. So let me ask you a a a a complex question of kind of piecing things together. Okay? Mhmm.
• 1:05:41
  So with where we're at right now looking at all these different pieces and looking at Carney, right, who we we you know, who's now seemingly gonna be the the kinda taking over the control of of Canada, looking at his ties to the the British crown, to these secret societies, all this stuff. Okay. Do you think that do you think that Trump and let's just let's just I'm gonna say Trump we'll put him in in the bucket of, say, presumed innocent. Right? Maybe he's being taken advantage of.
• 1:06:13
  Right? Okay. Let's just we'll you know, for conversation's sake, we'll put him in that bucket. Okay? But do you think that if you look at the amount of power that Elon has Elon has, right, which, you know, it's okay.
• 1:06:23
  Great. Yeah. I love getting rid of corruption and everything, but I'm also kinda weary that part of this could be part of just dismantling The US Government to say, look. It's so inefficient. It's so corrupted that we have this go go to some technocracy or technology based system to run everything because we can't rely on these corrupt politicians.
• 1:06:38
  And so is, like, maybe part of the reason of of Doge is doing that is actually destroying faith in the governments the governance of America, period. So do you think that potentially that with this what's happening with the, you know, The United States potentially, you know, being part of the Commonwealth with the acquisition of Canada Greenland, with everything that Elon Musk is doing, that what this is leading towards is not America controlling Canada, but actually, in some way, Canada having greater influence over America through whatever merger, same with Greenland. And then this map right here, this tech native America being something that that under Musk and his grandfather's previous ambitions, bringing in a technocratic technocratic society here, which might, you know, tie into to Teal and some of these, you know, Palantir and and, you know, we go deep into the the the tech, the Silicon Valley rabbit holes of basically creating this tech native America that then would, in some way, actually then is this be subservient to the British crown? I mean, do you look at this as maybe potentially a bigger strategy of creating this technique and then bringing everything back under the fold of the British crown?
• 1:07:56
  As frightening as that all seems, I mean, I'm seeing that if I'm looking at the chessboard, it's like, well, I I you know, if I was being objective and not, you know, being, okay, biased by hope or biased by, you know, kind of positive belief and and the good of humankind, you could see that, well, maybe this is some sort of multigenerational long term strategy. And even you mentioned Elon naming his son a series of numbers and letters, which is strange, but then, actually, I I hadn't heard that before. That to join the technocratic society, you had to have take on a new name like that. Is is everything I'm piecing together far fetched, or is that something that could be potentially part of this bigger agenda?
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, that's my concern, really. I I I like you said, I I also am inclined to give Trump the benefit of the doubt as a person. I you know? And and some of the better people around him, I I really do wanna give them, and I I am giving them.
• 1:08:55
  I'm operating under the hypothesis that they mean really well, but they're being duped into a trap that would be best to avoid. And my concern, you know, since the earliest moments when Trump was proposing making Canada the fifty first state and everyone is getting all giddy and excited, I was warning that this might make The US more Canadian than Canada more American. And, certainly, when you look at Mark Carney who has been gamed out, and it's been a plan to put him and replace, you know, all worn out Justin Trudeau idiot for a number of years. The it's already been a scenario that they've been putting forth for for years already. They've been waiting for the right moment to put in Carney.
• 1:09:38
  He's very close to the the the architects of the North American Union. I mean, you know, Lloyd, not Lloyd, Thomas Axeworthy, there there's a a network of privy counselors that created the Canada Canada twenty twenty think tank created in 02/2005 that installed Justin Trudeau that groomed him. Diane Carney, his wife, is a research director, a leading figure controlling the Canada twenty twenty think tank. And, these people on the Privy Council task force for the creation of a North American Union simply put that plan on the back burner, which is to create an amaro for North America under the context that would require an economic collapse to give an excuse to say we need something new to bring order back into the system. So, you know, they put that on the back burner in 02/2007 when people were, I think, a little too resistant to giving up their freedoms.
• 1:10:30
  Or 02/2008, they they they put it away, but they didn't give up on it. So I think that that's still in motion. And if that were to happen, it would certainly eliminate the majority of the factors, the elements of the US constitution that make America a viable sovereign nation by giving up to a higher centralized authority that would be located far removed from even North America itself in order to maintain peace and stability, blah blah blah. So, yeah, I do think there's a bit of a slight of hand happening right now to trip up the better Patriots, maybe by getting them to think a little bit too, robustly of how great they are and and and avoid the the weakness of what we've allowed to the the nature of the evil that we've allowed to consume. I think many Americans have been induced to stop evaluating or appreciating the nature of this evil that's infiltrated the social body, of their own society over the dead bodies of JFK properly to the point that they can't recognize where it is today operating and controlling major functions of The US state even now even now around Donald Trump directly, which could be playing a bit of a a trick to reabsorb The USA back into its ancient nemesis.
• 1:11:50
  So, again, that's part of what I see as as one aspect of of my my role at the moment, at least, is to ring the the alarm bell on that and to, to try to help patriots in both Canada and and The USA alike to sidestep these traps that a very sophisticated ancient force of evil has been laying that thinks very long term, longer term than most of the patriots that I know who don't know how to think on those types of long arcs in a in a cogent manner in order to really because, you know, I think we do have a chance to bring back the best spirits of of 1776, but we have to be more sophisticated than thinking that World Wrestling Federation is the master key to solving grand strategy. You know? There's that's not high culture. That's the reason why we're dumb is that we've been led to believe that that is culture, and that's not that's what makes us worse people, and the oligarchy thinks on a much higher level than WWF wrestling.
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 1: Unless you're watching Idiocracy, and then it all makes sense.
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 2: And then it makes sense. Yeah.
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 1: Well, Matt, I think we should probably kind of I I think we've gone full circle. Sure. We've gone on for quite some time. I know you have another interview or another show you're doing shortly, so I'll be mindful of your time and give you, you know, time to prep for that. But Yeah.
• 1:13:04
  Before we sign off, I wanna say a few things. And then also, I wanna actually, I'll first bring attention to your Substack. So, matthew errett dot substack dot com. I'll make sure that this link is in the description to the show. There's as you can see just on your homepage here, there's a lot of stuff that is very relevant, to what we're talking about.
• 1:13:22
  Elon Musk has Tesla two point o, the legacy of Technocracy Inc. Back in 02/2024, you wrote that. The dystopian mission of Mark Carney. So a lot of what we're talking about is on your Substack, and just also to encourage people to follow you over on x. I'm all you know, I'll put your it's errett underscore matthew, and it's your last name's e h r e t.
• 1:13:40
  I'll put that in the link as well for the the description for the show. But so I wanna just kinda you know, coming full circle, what I've come to with this is that the solution to this fundamentally for the the those of us that are of that populist movement that I I I hate it's not even Republican movement. It's just a populist movement of we believe in the core values of this country, of the constitution, of us as a constitutional republic, not a democracy. Right? Like, he you're Elon Musk talking about, oh, they're destroying our democracy or democracy.
• 1:14:09
  It's like, no. We're a constitutional republic. It took me some time to understand that too. Like, I used think, oh, America's a democracy because that's what they want us to think. But I think that the key, though, is that we have to look back to the founding and look back to how the country was established because how it was done was done in a way that it gave us freedom from the British crown.
• 1:14:30
  And right now, there's a lot of enemies. I think a lot of the new trace back to the city of London to the banking cartels that want to bring America first, knock us down to our knees and bring us back under that system, and we have to collectively resist that. But, also, the cost of liberty is eternal vigilance. Right? The price of liberty, eternal vigilance.
• 1:14:48
  So we cannot allow ourselves to blindly worship anybody. Right? You know, whether it's Trump, Elon Musk, you know, Conor McGregor, it doesn't matter who it is. We have to be very vigilant and constantly measure our elected leaders, our local leaders, etcetera, against the the founding documents of this country. And if we can't do that, we're we're lost.
• 1:15:12
  And that's where I come in terms of, okay, what can I do about this? Like, that it's that. Let's get back to that. So do you have any closing thoughts as we're concluding here?
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 2: No. Those are really good closing closing thoughts, Seth. Yeah. I I I support everything you just said, and I think that, yeah, like, at the end of the day, America has to do a lot of soul searching. Americans need to really, like, look inward right now and and really evaluate the quality of the the evil that we've permitted to seep into you know?
• 1:15:44
  And I would say Canadians, I'll I'll include my fellow Canadians in that in that proposition too. We've tolerated the normalization of mediocrity and evil for many generations now far too long. And unless we can really begin to look at you know, you you can an alcoholic can only start solving the problem once they admit that I'm an alcoholic, you know, develop the eat some humble pie, start making apologies, you know, like, look to the people that you've wronged. And America, Canada, you know, we've wronged a lot of people. Like, you know, the mill we allowed the CIA, the military industrial complex to use the the resources of the nation to project power at the costs of millions and millions of lives and wars that we should never have anything to do with in The Middle East, bombing nations that had nothing to do with nine eleven when in fact it seems as though the thing that had something to do with nine eleven was actually located in our own backyard.
• 1:16:39
  Vietnam, my you know, we wiped out whole villages of innocent people in the course of a war in Vietnam that was all based on a false flag of something that didn't even happen at the Gulf Of Tonkin. We were lied to. There was no attack by the Viet Cong and the Gulf Of Tonkin, but because we gave our acquiescence, our consent, we allowed millions of innocent victims to die there, Cambodia, Laos, and, I mean, there's been, I think, over 200 wars. The expansion of US military there's 78 US military bases all over Latin America that are just unchecked. 300, you know, bio labs run by the CIA and the Pentagon unchecked internationally.
• 1:17:14
  Nobody talks about that. And, I mean, we we've Africa. My god. It's so it could be a beautiful blossoming renaissance of of of beauty and cooperation and hope if we hadn't killed Patrice Lumumba and and and overthrown so many leaders that love their people and and Thomas Sankara of Burkina Faso in the eighties. We did that.
• 1:17:33
  We did that that blood is on our hands. And because of that, we installed, you know, controlled puppets to privatize everything for mining conglomerates of, you know, Barrick Gold and Chevron and and, you know, De Beers and other things, Monarcho. Now we've got a situation of chaos on Earth. We've brought ourselves to a breaking point. We've allowed this oligarchy to consolidate power under BlackRock and a few hands that are tied to a sociopathic ancient order of high priesthood satanists that are really obsessed with killing everybody and ushering in a new age of horrors.
• 1:18:04
  Like, great. You know? So
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 1: There's your summary.
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 2: Let's do some let's yeah. So let's do something really about about, like, pulling our heads out of our asses and thinking about how can we get get good again and think about the best of our times when we when we didn't suck, when we were really something to that that was that was worth being proud of and emulating those past experiences of how we fought empire, how we how we did the good and acted in accordance of the principles of man made in the live living image of God. And we got a limited window of opportunity to have these kinds of conversations because pretty soon it's gonna snap, and we won't be able to talk about this, and we'll be too busy fighting for, like, surviving, amidst the total shock therapy dark age, and that's not gonna be good. So let's do it now. Yeah.
• 1:18:47
  That's my that's my final
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 1: word. Shooting drones out of the sky.
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Right? With rocks and slingshots. Exactly.
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 1: Well, Matt, thank you again for your time. I know it's late for you, and I appreciate you, staying up for this. I'll, you know, make sure again that your links are in the description for the show, and we'll we'll we'll do this again. I got I've I've still got a huge list of questions that we didn't even get to, so we'll we'll do that in the next round. So thank you again.
• 1:19:11
  It's it's such a a pleasure speaking with you.
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 2: Alright. You too. Alright. Bye.
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