Latest / How Canadian Markets Work / Episode 88: ETFs vs. Mutual Funds (The Small Saver's Math)
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- 0:00In our previous deep dive into ETF creation and
- 0:02redemption, we were looking at how financial
- 0:06markets are effectively held together by this
- 0:08invisible rubber band. Right, that arbitrage
- 0:10mechanism. Exactly. We explored how designated
- 0:13brokers operate. purely on self -interest, they
- 0:16step in to arbitrage the market price of an ETF
- 0:19whenever it drifts away from the actual value
- 0:22of its underlying assets. Yeah, and that arbitrage
- 0:24mechanism, it really is the engine of the entire
- 0:27ETF structure. Like when the market price trades
- 0:29at a premium, those designated brokers... they
- 0:33buy the underlying securities. Then they exchange
- 0:36them for newly minted ETF units and sell those
- 0:39units to just pocket the difference. And it's
- 0:42that action itself that forces the ETF's price
- 0:45back into alignment with the net asset value.
- 0:47Exactly. It is an incredibly efficient piece
- 0:50of financial plumbing. It really is. And because
- 0:52that plumbing is so efficient, There is this
- 0:55prevailing narrative in the investment world
- 0:57that ETFs have essentially rendered mutual funds
- 1:00obsolete. Oh, for sure. You hear it everywhere.
- 1:03Right. The assumption is that ETFs are strictly
- 1:05better. They have lower fees, secure your tax
- 1:08efficiency, and they give you absolute control
- 1:11over your execution. Yeah, the common knowledge.
- 1:13Exactly, the common knowledge. So for this deep
- 1:15dive, we're taking a stack of sources that pit
- 1:18ETFs directly against mutual funds to see if
- 1:21that common knowledge actually holds up under
- 1:23scrutiny. Which is a very necessary comparison.
- 1:26Right. Our mission today is to cut through the
- 1:29hype. We're going to examine the mechanics of
- 1:31trading flexibility, the reality of transaction
- 1:34costs versus management expense ratios, the MERS,
- 1:38and the underlying tax structures. And we really
- 1:40need to look at how running a standard dollar
- 1:42cost averaging strategy can completely change
- 1:44the math for you. Right. Because when we look
- 1:46closely at the mechanics, we find that this widely
- 1:49accepted superiority of the ETF wrapper, it's
- 1:52actually highly conditional. Highly conditional,
- 1:54yeah. And to understand why, I mean, we should
- 1:57probably start with the most obvious operational
- 1:59difference and investor experiences, right? The
- 2:01execution mechanics. OK, yeah. So the actual
- 2:04process of getting the asset into your portfolio.
- 2:07Exactly. With an ETF, the experience really just
- 2:11mirrors trading a single stock, doesn't it? It
- 2:14does. It trades on an exchange continuously throughout
- 2:17the session. So you log into your brokerage,
- 2:19you're looking at a live order book, you see
- 2:21the bid and the ask, and you can dictate your
- 2:23entry point using a limit order. Right. There
- 2:27is an undeniable sense of agency there like you
- 2:29are dictating the terms of your execution Yeah,
- 2:32you have total control intraday, but a mutual
- 2:35fund it operates on an entirely different architecture
- 2:38It's known as forward pricing forward pricing,
- 2:41right? Yeah They do not trade intraday at all
- 2:43when you place a buy or sell order for a mutual
- 2:46fund You are effectively just entering a queue.
- 2:48Okay, the transaction doesn't actually process
- 2:51until the market closes And that's when they
- 2:52calculate the net asset value per share the NAVPS
- 2:56exactly Exactly. They take the closing prices
- 2:57of all the underlying assets, subtract any liabilities,
- 3:01and divide that by the outstanding units. Which
- 3:03means, and this is the crazy part to me, if I
- 3:06submit an order at like 10 .30 in the morning,
- 3:09I'm committing to a transaction without actually
- 3:12knowing the exact price I'm going to receive.
- 3:14Yeah, you just have to wait and see. It feels
- 3:16so counterintuitive. It's almost like going to
- 3:18a restaurant and ordering dinner off a menu that
- 3:21has no prices and just trusting the math at the
- 3:24end of the night when the check comes. That's
- 3:26a great analogy, actually, and it can feel incredibly
- 3:28unsettling if you're used to the immediacy of
- 3:31exchange trading. Oh, absolutely. You know, that
- 3:34forward pricing mechanism, it exists for a very
- 3:37specific structural reason. It prevents arbitrage
- 3:40against the fund itself. Okay. How so? Well,
- 3:43if a mutual fund allowed you to purchase units
- 3:46at a known historical price, while the current
- 3:49market was actively rallying, you would effectively
- 3:52be extracting value from the existing long -term
- 3:56investors in that fund. Oh, I see. Because you'd
- 3:58be buying in at yesterday's cheap price. When
- 4:01the assets are already worth more today. Exactly.
- 4:04So forward pricing ensures that intraday market
- 4:06timing is structurally impossible. But more importantly,
- 4:10for the average investor, it provides a really
- 4:12unique execution environment. Because every single
- 4:15investor who transacts on a given day receives
- 4:18the exact same price. Exactly. So there is zero
- 4:21market impact regardless of the size of your
- 4:24order. Correct. And crucially, and people forget
- 4:26this, There is no bid ask spread. Wow. Right.
- 4:30Yeah. You are interacting directly with the fund
- 4:32company, not some secondary market maker who
- 4:35needs to extract a premium for providing liquidity.
- 4:39You know, I have to push back a bit on this whole
- 4:41obsession with execution control anyway. Let's
- 4:43hear it. If you are building a multi -decade
- 4:45portfolio. Sweating the execution price at 10
- 4:4815 a .m. Versus the closing price at 4 p .m.
- 4:51Seems entirely pointless is mostly just noise
- 4:54Honestly, right and couldn't that intraday access
- 4:56actually be a behavioral liability like the structure
- 5:00of an ETF actively facilitates impulsive trading
- 5:02Oh, it absolutely does. I'm glad you brought
- 5:04that up. The friction inherent in mutual funds,
- 5:08the fact that you cannot execute immediately
- 5:10and you simply have to wait for the daily pricing
- 5:12that often acts as a behavioral safeguard. It
- 5:15forces a pause. Yes. Intraday liquidity is always
- 5:18marketed as this premium feature, but for a buy
- 5:21and hold index investor. The ability to panic
- 5:25sell during a volatile midday session is probably
- 5:28the least valuable tool at their disposal. It
- 5:30just makes it too easy to make a bad decision.
- 5:33Exactly. And that behavioral friction, it actually
- 5:36ties directly into the mechanics of how these
- 5:38products are priced, and more importantly, how
- 5:40those prices hide transaction costs. OK, let's
- 5:43get into the costs. Because if trading flexibility
- 5:45isn't necessarily a net positive, we should look
- 5:48at the absolute cornerstone argument for ETFs.
- 5:51which is the fee structure. Right, the narrative
- 5:54that ETS are just mathematically cheaper. Which
- 5:56they are, generally speaking, right? They are,
- 5:59but the narrative often relies on a massive false
- 6:01equivalence. How do you mean? Well, investors
- 6:04frequently look at the management expense ratio,
- 6:07the MR, of a passive broad market index ETF,
- 6:11and they compare it to the MR of a legacy actively
- 6:14managed mutual fund. Oh, right, like an apple
- 6:17to oranges comparison. Exactly. They are conflating
- 6:20the product wrapper with the underlying investment
- 6:23strategy. The vast majority of that active mutual
- 6:26funds cost difference comes from paying a portfolio
- 6:29management team to attempt to beat the market,
- 6:31not from the structure of the mutual fund wrapper
- 6:34itself. So to evaluate the wrappers fairly, we
- 6:37have to isolate the variables. We need to compare
- 6:40an index ETF directly against an index mutual
- 6:44fund that tracks the exact same benchmark. Precisely.
- 6:47And when you run that specific comparison, the
- 6:49gap in the MER narrows significantly. So the
- 6:52ETF still has a slight edge, right? Generally,
- 6:54yes. The ETF will maintain a slight edge in pure
- 6:57management fees. But the analysis is totally
- 6:59incomplete if you just evaluate the MER and a
- 7:02vacuum. We have to incorporate the transaction
- 7:04costs associated with actually acquiring the
- 7:07asset. OK, let's run that through a standard
- 7:09dollar cost averaging model based on the data
- 7:11in our sources. Let's do it. So imagine an investor
- 7:14deploying smaller tranches of capital. Say you're
- 7:18contributing $200 every single month. for 10
- 7:21years. OK, so that is $24 ,000 in total principal
- 7:24invested over the decade. Right. And we will
- 7:26model a 7 % gross annualized return for both
- 7:30assets just to keep the comparison clean. Sounds
- 7:33good. So if we model the ultra low cost index
- 7:37ETF carrying a 0 .06 % MER, that portfolio grows
- 7:42to roughly $34 ,503 over the decade. OK, 34 grand
- 7:48in change. Yeah. But if we model the equivalent
- 7:50index mutual fund with an admittedly higher amir
- 7:54of 0 .90 % Pretty typical fee gap. Right. The
- 7:58final balance sits at about $32 ,954. So if we
- 8:02are strictly looking at the drag of the management
- 8:04fee, the ETF wrapper preserves about $1 ,550
- 8:09more wealth. Exactly. The ETF seems to be the
- 8:12clear winner. But, and here's the huge catch
- 8:15that assumes frictionless trading, which simply
- 8:18isn't the reality for many retail brokerage accounts.
- 8:20Not at all. Because the ETF trades on an exchange,
- 8:24you are often subject to a commission for every
- 8:27single execution. And that fundamentally alters
- 8:30the math. Right. If your brokerage charges a
- 8:32standard $10 commission, those 120 monthly purchases
- 8:36represent $1 ,200 in direct trading costs. Boom.
- 8:41That $1 ,550 EMIRA advantage, it's immediately
- 8:46reduced to just $350 over a decade. And we still
- 8:49haven't even accounted for the bid -ask spread
- 8:51we discussed earlier. Oh, exactly. Because every
- 8:54time you cross the spread to buy that ETF, you
- 8:56are paying a hidden premium. Because market makers
- 8:59aren't charities, right? Right. They take on
- 9:01the inventory risk of holding the ETF, and they
- 9:04demand compensation for providing you with that
- 9:06immediate liquidity. So the spread essentially
- 9:08acts as a micro tax on every single transaction.
- 9:11Yes. And over 120 purchases, that spread drag
- 9:16can easily consume the remaining $350 advantage.
- 9:20So for this specific strategy frequent smaller
- 9:23contributions, the structural costs of the ETF
- 9:26wrapper entirely neutralize its lower management
- 9:29fee. That is wild to think about. And, you know,
- 9:33there is also a structural cash drag issue here
- 9:35that we shouldn't ignore either. The fractional
- 9:37shares issue. Exactly. Unless your brokerage
- 9:41explicitly supports fractional ETF shares, which
- 9:43many still do not, an ETF requires you to purchase
- 9:47whole units. Right. So if your target asset trades
- 9:50at $85 and you are contributing $200 a month,
- 9:54you can only afford to buy two shares. Which
- 9:56is $170. Right. And that leaves $30 just sitting
- 10:00idle in cash in your account doing absolutely
- 10:02nothing. While mutual funds, by design, process
- 10:05fractional amounts to the absolute penny, you
- 10:08allocate $200, you acquire exactly $200 worth
- 10:11of the underlying asset. No cash drag at all.
- 10:14None. And honestly, the psychological benefit
- 10:16of just putting the process on autopilot is significant.
- 10:18Oh, yeah. A mutual fund allows for seamless,
- 10:21automated clearing from a checking account right
- 10:23into the market. You are fully invested without
- 10:26the friction of manually calculating whole shares
- 10:29or making sure you log in during market hours
- 10:31to place the Which means, for someone running
- 10:35a standard DCA strategy, especially early on,
- 10:38the index mutual fund is likely the superior
- 10:40vehicle, despite the higher MER. Yes. For small,
- 10:45regular contributions, the mutual fund often
- 10:47wins. But let's look at how that math shifts
- 10:50as your portfolio scales up. Because obviously,
- 10:53the relationship between flat transaction costs
- 10:55and percentage -based fees isn't linear. No,
- 10:57it's actually an inverse relationship. Once a
- 11:00portfolio achieves sufficient scale, the math
- 11:01we just discussed completely inverts. OK, let's
- 11:04run the numbers on a bigger account. Let's look
- 11:06at a $500 ,000 portfolio. Nice round number.
- 11:09Right. So the 84 basis point difference between
- 11:12our mutual fund at 0 .90 % and our ETF at 0 .06%.
- 11:17That difference equates to a fee drag of $4 ,200
- 11:21annually. $4 ,200 every single year. Yes. Wow.
- 11:27And at that scale. paying a $10 flat commission
- 11:30to deploy some new capital is literally a rounding
- 11:33error. Exactly. A commission is just a static
- 11:36one -time penalty incurred only when capital
- 11:38is actually moved. But an M -year, that is a
- 11:42continuous percentage levied against the totality
- 11:45of your accumulated wealth day in and day out.
- 11:47So as your asset base grows, minimizing that
- 11:50percentage fee becomes the absolute overriding
- 11:53priority. Exactly right. So the mechanics kind
- 11:55of dictate that a hybrid approach might actually
- 11:58be optimal over a long investing life cycle,
- 12:00wouldn't you say? How do you mean? Well, you
- 12:02could utilize the automated fractional capabilities
- 12:05of an index mutual fund. to aggregate capital
- 12:08without transaction friction during your accumulation
- 12:11phase, right? When you're making small monthly
- 12:13deposit. Okay, yeah. And then periodically, perhaps
- 12:16once a year, you liquidate that mutual fund position
- 12:19and roll the bulk capital into the ultra low
- 12:21mirror ETF. That way you minimize the ongoing
- 12:24fee drag on the core large portfolio. That is
- 12:27a highly efficient strategy. It leverages the
- 12:29mechanical strength of both wrappers perfectly.
- 12:32It's like a win -win. Well, there is a catch.
- 12:34There's always a catch. That strategy relies
- 12:36on the assumption that you can move capital between
- 12:38the two products without any negative consequences,
- 12:42which requires us to look at the other major
- 12:44mechanical difference between ETFs and mutual
- 12:47funds, the underlying tax structure, the hidden
- 12:50tax trap. Exactly. This is where the actual plumbing
- 12:54of how these funds handle redemptions becomes
- 12:57incredibly critical. Let's look at the mutual
- 12:59fund first. Sure. When a mutual fund experiences
- 13:02significant outflows, say a macroeconomic event
- 13:05spooks a large contingent of investors and they
- 13:08all just panic and submit redemption requests,
- 13:11the fund manager needs to generate the liquidity
- 13:13to pay them all out. Right. And the manager doesn't
- 13:16just hold massive cash reserves to cover that,
- 13:19because holding cash creates a drag on the fund's
- 13:22performance. So they have to go into the open
- 13:23market and actually sell off portions of the
- 13:26underlying portfolio. Exactly. They have to sell.
- 13:29If the fund has held those assets during a prolonged
- 13:32bull market, selling them crystallizes capital
- 13:35gains. Yes. And here is where the structure of
- 13:39a mutual fund becomes highly problematic in a
- 13:42taxable environment. Because of how those gains
- 13:44are treated, right? Exactly. Under tax regulations,
- 13:47the mutual fund entity cannot simply retain those
- 13:50crystallized gains. It is legally required to
- 13:52distribute them. OK. But the investors who panicked
- 13:55and triggered the sales, they have already redeemed
- 13:58their units and exited the fund. Oh, wow. So
- 14:02they are gone. They are gone. Therefore, those
- 14:05capital gains are distributed pro rata to the
- 14:07remaining unit holders. To the people who just
- 14:09sat there and did nothing. It's like going out
- 14:11to dinner with a huge group of people. Right.
- 14:13And a couple people order the lobster, they drink
- 14:15the most expensive rine, and then they leave
- 14:17early before the check arrives. And you, the
- 14:19guy who just had a salad, you get stuck paying
- 14:22the tax on their massive meal. That is exactly
- 14:25what it's like. A passive buy and hold investor
- 14:27who did absolutely nothing can be forced to recognize
- 14:30a taxable capital gain simply because other participants
- 14:34in the fund decided to liquidate their positions.
- 14:37You are effectively subsidizing the panic of
- 14:39active traders. It is a widely recognized structural
- 14:42inefficiency of the mutual fund wrapper. It is
- 14:45highly susceptible to the behavior of other investors,
- 14:48which is pretty terrifying, honestly, which brings
- 14:50us back to the. ETF creation and redemption mechanism
- 14:53we covered in the previous deep dive. How does
- 14:56the ETF wrapper solve this massive tax flaw?
- 15:00through what's called the in -kind transaction.
- 15:02OK, the in -kind transaction. Right. When large
- 15:05institutional investors or designated brokers
- 15:07want to redeem ETF units, the ETF issuer does
- 15:11not necessarily need to sell the underlying assets
- 15:14to raise cash. Like the mutual fund manager had
- 15:17to. Exactly. Instead of selling, the ETF issuer
- 15:20can simply hand over a proportional basket of
- 15:22the actual underlying stocks or bonds directly
- 15:25to the designated broker in exchange for the
- 15:27ETF units being redeemed. because no cash is
- 15:30actually changing hands on the open exchange.
- 15:33It's essentially just an asset swap. There's
- 15:35no sale recognized within the fund itself. Precisely.
- 15:38The in -kind redemption mechanism allows the
- 15:40ETF to systematically flush out the underlying
- 15:42assets with the lowest cost basis, and it does
- 15:45it without triggering a taxable event for the
- 15:47fund. That is brilliant. It really is. This means
- 15:50the remaining ETF shareholders are completely
- 15:52shielded from the capital gains generated by
- 15:54the redemption activity of others. The structural
- 15:56advantage there is just massive. You are totally
- 15:59insulated from the behavioral... volatility of
- 16:03the broader investor base. You are. But I think
- 16:05we need to contextualize this because that tax
- 16:08efficiency isn't universally applicable, is it?
- 16:11No. It is not. Like if an investor is holding
- 16:13these assets inside a tax -sheltered account,
- 16:16like a 401k, an IRA, or any registered retirement
- 16:19vehicle, does this underlying mechanism actually
- 16:22matter to them at all? It doesn't. Inside a registered
- 16:25tax -advantaged account, the account structure
- 16:27itself completely shields the capital gains.
- 16:30Okay. So if a mutual fund distributes a massive
- 16:32capital gain to your IRA because of internal
- 16:35redemptions, there's no immediate tax consequence
- 16:37to you anyway. So the tax efficiency of the ETF
- 16:40wrapper only provides a tangible economic benefit
- 16:42when the athets are held in a standard non -registered
- 16:46taxable account. Exactly. The environment completely
- 16:49dictates the utility of the tool. The mutual
- 16:52funds' fatal tax flaw is completely neutralized
- 16:55if it is just held in the correct account type.
- 16:58Which is why relying on blanket statements like,
- 17:01you know, ETFs are always superior. is so dangerous.
- 17:04It's very dangerous. An investor really needs
- 17:06to align the specific mechanics of the product
- 17:09with the specific constraints of their own portfolio
- 17:11architecture. Let's kind of synthesize the mechanics
- 17:14we've covered today because we've gone through
- 17:16a lot. We have. If you are operating a large
- 17:18portfolio in a taxable environment, The ETF is
- 17:22structurally superior. Undeniably. The sheer
- 17:25weight of the ongoing AUM fee makes the ETF's
- 17:28lower MER a mathematical necessity. Yeah. And
- 17:31the in -kind redemption mechanism protects you
- 17:33from external capital gains distributions. Right.
- 17:35But conversely, if you are utilizing tax sheltered
- 17:38accounts and executing a systematic dollar cost
- 17:41averaging strategy, you know, regular smaller
- 17:44contributions, the index mutual fund is remarkably
- 17:47competitive. Oh, absolutely. The ability to execute
- 17:50automated fractional purchases without crossing
- 17:54the bid ask spread or paying those flat commissions,
- 17:57that often totally overcomes the slight disadvantage
- 18:00in the management expense ratio. So it just requires
- 18:02a dynamic approach. The optimal wrapper for a
- 18:05$5 ,000 portfolio is very likely the suboptimal
- 18:09wrapper for a $500 ,000 portfolio. Exactly. Investors
- 18:13need to evaluate their execution costs and account
- 18:16structures continuously as their capital scales.
- 18:19Right. What got you there won't necessarily keep
- 18:20you there. Exactly. And, you know, as a final
- 18:23thought to leave you with, I think it is worth
- 18:25returning to the fundamental architecture of
- 18:27the ETF itself. OK. We talked about that invisible
- 18:30rubber band of designated brokers keeping the
- 18:33market price tied to the net asset value. Right.
- 18:36The arbitrage mechanism that ensures you are
- 18:37always paying a fair price on the exchange. Think
- 18:40about the prerequisite for that mechanism to
- 18:42actually function. The underlying securities
- 18:44must be highly liquid. OK. The designated broker
- 18:48needs to be able to instantly buy or sell the
- 18:51basket of underlying assets to execute the arbitrage.
- 18:54But consider this. What happens during a severe
- 18:58systemic liquidity crunch? Like a major market
- 19:01panic? Yes. If an ETF holds a basket of illiquid
- 19:05corporate bonds or, say, volatile microcap equities,
- 19:09and the secondary market for those assets just
- 19:11seizes up during a panic, the designated brokers
- 19:14literally cannot execute their trades. Oh, wow.
- 19:17So the arbitrage mechanism strains. It strains.
- 19:19And if it breaks, the market price of the ETF
- 19:22can decouple wildly from the actual value of
- 19:25its under... underlying assets. That's terrifying.
- 19:27The very structure that provides you with intraday
- 19:29liquidity under normal conditions could theoretically
- 19:32fail to protect your execution price right at
- 19:34the exact moment the market demands liquidity
- 19:36the most. Meaning the wrapper itself could become
- 19:38a massive source of risk. Well, that is a vital
- 19:41reminder that financial engineering always carries
- 19:44inherent tradeoffs. And understanding those underlying
- 19:47mechanics is really the only way to accurately
- 19:49price that risk. So keep questioning the plumbing
- 19:52behind your portfolios and we will catch you
- 19:54on the next deep dive.