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Patriots Unfiltered 7/10: Gonzo Top 100, Josh McDaniels Offense, League and Team News/Topics · Patriots Unfiltered

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  Speaker 2: All right, welcome the Patriots Unfiltered. It is Thursday here
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  Speaker 2: at Jillette Stadium. It's Alex, It's Deuce, it's Me, It's
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  Speaker 2: Matt and Na Booth. We're knocketing off another off season
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  Speaker 2: edition of Patriots Unfiltered. Not too many of those left, No,
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  Speaker 2: not too many of those left. We're getting closer.
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  Speaker 1: We are.
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  Speaker 2: Every day brings us closer to the opening of camp
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  Speaker 2: on July twenty third. Be there with bells on.
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  Speaker 1: I know we put out the schedule I saw. I
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  Speaker 1: mean the first two weeks open. So if you want
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  Speaker 1: to know which day to go, check out is Patriot Social.
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  Speaker 2: The other cool thing that's going on on that opening day,
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  Speaker 2: which I found out a few days ago, is the
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  Speaker 2: Patriot are gonna have a pet adoption Day. It's for dogs,
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  Speaker 2: but you can come and actually adopt the dog right
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  Speaker 2: there at camp. They're gonna have a big area set up.
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  Speaker 2: I think they're gonna have like twenty to twenty five
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  Speaker 2: eligible dogs, puppies and dogs from three I think local
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  Speaker 2: you know shelters yep, and like that same day you
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  Speaker 2: could go home with a dog. The dog will have
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  Speaker 2: all its papers, all its shots. You know. You can
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  Speaker 2: pick the dog, adopt it. You can leave it, you know,
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  Speaker 2: with the you know, in the nice area and go
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  Speaker 2: to practice and pick it up after practice. Or you
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  Speaker 2: can just come and adopt the dog and go home.
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  Speaker 2: But that's pretty cool.
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  Speaker 3: I love it.
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  Speaker 4: I think the I think the shelters are the Berkshire
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  Speaker 4: Berkshire Animal Rescue out in Pittsfield, the Potters League down
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  Speaker 4: in Rhode Island, and then the Animal League Rescue in Boston,
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  Speaker 4: which doctor Dianacraft is on the board of.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, well, Steve and I just adopted a dog in
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  Speaker 1: March because we would have been back to the market
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  Speaker 1: for it.
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  Speaker 2: I guess we all, well, most people, except for Paul
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  Speaker 2: I have a soft spot spot for these dogs, you know.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I can't even know that two fresh.
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  Speaker 2: Like I don't understand how a child or a dog
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  Speaker 2: doesn't have a home.
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  Speaker 1: I know, Oh yeah, you know what I mean. Well,
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  Speaker 1: I just I mean, this has been a whole new
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  Speaker 1: experience for me. I wasn't a dog guy growing up.
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  Speaker 1: I just never had a dog, and now that we've
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  Speaker 1: got Zook the Chewini, he's been awesome. CHOWEENI he's a chewiny.
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  Speaker 1: You have Chihuahua and dackson.
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  Speaker 2: So they call him chin They have chihuaha and half WIENI.
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  Speaker 1: Well technically that's what he is. But it's been a
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  Speaker 1: really great experience getting tone to die and like it's
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  Speaker 1: all new for me for three months. But he's just
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  Speaker 1: been such a net positive on our house now it's
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  Speaker 1: like you gotta take them off or positive. A net positive,
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  Speaker 1: I would say reviewing the dog is a net positive.
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  Speaker 1: But uh, you know, I mean he likes to hunt
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  Speaker 1: chipmunks sometimes, so if it's a little it's a little.
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  Speaker 2: Dicey at times, dog goes nuts.
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  Speaker 1: Does he get him? Does he ever get any of them?
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  Speaker 2: Well, he's not a leash. But you know they make
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  Speaker 2: that noise, you know, distinctive noise, and it's like they
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  Speaker 2: they torment him.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what they do to mine dog too. They're
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  Speaker 1: just taunting him from like the trees.
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  Speaker 3: But it's great.
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  Speaker 4: Because like those little terrier dogs, they keep the mice away.
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  Speaker 4: So it's like, what would you rather do with your dog?
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  Speaker 4: Making weird noises in the house.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's no, it's been great. It's been great, and
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  Speaker 1: my kids have you know, loved it and you know,
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  Speaker 1: it's just the only little guy that comes up and
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  Speaker 1: cuddles with you, and he's been the perfect fit for
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  Speaker 1: our family. So it's been it's awesome. So hopefully somebody
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  Speaker 1: has the same experiences.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so he'sly twenty third opening day of camp. It's
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  Speaker 2: a Wednesday. Come on down and check out the dogs,
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  Speaker 2: and if you fall in love with one of them,
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  Speaker 2: you can take it home.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So I think that's really good. I hope all of
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  Speaker 2: them go home. Yeah, I would hate, like, you know,
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  Speaker 2: two of them don't get.
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  Speaker 3: Picked and they have to give you to take them home.
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  Speaker 2: I already have a dog, but one's enough.
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  Speaker 1: But I didn't realize that getting a rescue dogs not
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  Speaker 1: a flex kind of but it's like kind of a
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  Speaker 1: special thing. Like I didn't realize like if you have
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  Speaker 1: a rescue, that's like a whole subset of dog owners that,
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  Speaker 1: oh you have rescue. That's that's cool that you went
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  Speaker 1: and got, you know, a dog, rather than a designer
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  Speaker 1: dog that cost all kinds of money.
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  Speaker 2: I think, so instead of getting in from these puppy mills.
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  Speaker 4: Puppy mills, and also just unethical breeders like you mentioned
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  Speaker 4: the designer dogs. Like a lot of dogs are bred
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  Speaker 4: for those really desirable athletic traits, but it's not aligned
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  Speaker 4: with the evolution of the dog. Like a French bulldog
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  Speaker 4: for example. People like the really short snouts, but evolutionarily
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  Speaker 4: you want a longer snout because they have breathing problems.
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  Speaker 4: They have heart problems as a result, and like the
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  Speaker 4: doodles they're breeding now are just so neurotic. They have
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  Speaker 4: such insane anxiety, and the poodle is a great, really
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  Speaker 4: smart dog.
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  Speaker 2: I don't like the designer breeding, but I have a
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  Speaker 2: I've always had a theory that mixed breed dogs like
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  Speaker 2: just natural healthiest. I think are healthiest because they adopt
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  Speaker 2: the strongest genes from both dogs.
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  Speaker 1: Definitely, yeah, I think that's the case.
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  Speaker 2: Like my dog is part terrier and part it might
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  Speaker 2: be Corgie. I'm not even sure it was a rescue dog.
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  Speaker 2: It was really sketchy. Off of Facebook. They had these
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  Speaker 2: dogs free dog and so if you wanted one of
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  Speaker 2: these dogs, you had to meet up behind the Uh,
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  Speaker 2: what's the tractor hardware? Place tractor tractor supply in Rhode Island,
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  Speaker 2: and they showed up with this this pit, this truck
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  Speaker 2: with all these dogs, and you know, you showed your
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  Speaker 2: ID that you already signed up for this dog and
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  Speaker 2: you took it home. And it was almost like clandestine, right,
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  Speaker 2: you know what's yeah I want And that's how we
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  Speaker 2: got our dog.
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  Speaker 1: What I've learned over this process, though, is that they
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  Speaker 1: get all the dog shipments up from the South and.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, this was my dogs from Arkansas.
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  Speaker 1: And I guess they don't really give a crap about
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  Speaker 1: dogs down in the South.
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  Speaker 4: So much just abandoned them in the woods, you trash dumpsters.
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  Speaker 1: Like we're so curious about our dogs. He's got like
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  Speaker 1: a scar on his head. He had heartworm at one point,
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  Speaker 1: and like we know we might have been in a home,
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  Speaker 1: but like, you're just so curious about the story we're
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  Speaker 1: talking to. Another family had a similar situation where they
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  Speaker 1: got to a rescue dog and they were just so
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  Speaker 1: curious about the story that like she's like I tracked
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  Speaker 1: down the people in the town in Texas where and
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  Speaker 1: they were just like, man, you people in the Northeast
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  Speaker 1: really love your dogs, don't you, Like I mean, down there,
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  Speaker 1: it just seems like your dog goes away. Just get
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  Speaker 1: another dog, but there everywhere, just grab my sister.
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  Speaker 4: My sister did a little stet in Americ Corpse after
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  Speaker 4: high school before college, and part of what she was
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  Speaker 4: doing was down in Gaveleston, Texas doing hurricane restoration. So
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  Speaker 4: between them, not to generalize, it's not, but there's so
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  Speaker 4: many more natural disasters and hurricanes and stuff, so these
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  Speaker 4: animals get displaced that way too. And working down there,
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  Speaker 4: she realized like, oh my god, I need to get
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  Speaker 4: into veterinary sciences.
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  Speaker 1: So she grab a dog. You want to start out with.
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  Speaker 4: Well, the shelters, really good shelters and animal rescues do
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  Speaker 4: a great job because they don't want it to happen again.
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  Speaker 4: They don't want dogs to kept, so they really do
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  Speaker 4: due diligence to make sure that the dogs are being
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  Speaker 4: fit with families, that the breed, if it's well in
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  Speaker 4: their lifestyle. They're coming with all the shots, they're coming
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  Speaker 4: with all like the vet appointments you have to do
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  Speaker 4: with like a little puppy that they're ready to go,
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  Speaker 4: you know.
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  Speaker 3: So it's just it's a great option to adopt a dog.
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  Speaker 2: All right. So July twenty third, dogs come get a dog,
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  Speaker 2: and I would imagine if it's a big success, they'll
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  Speaker 2: do it again. Sure, you know, why not?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, we had an event earlier in May. It was
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  Speaker 4: the first one about Patriot Place. It's a rainy day,
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  Speaker 4: but it was still successful. Watched the dog get adopted.
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  Speaker 4: It was just a really sweet moment.
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  Speaker 1: It's cute.
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  Speaker 3: It's a good day to bring your kids to camp.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, so Patriots. The NFL Top one hundred
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  Speaker 2: list came out and officially and Gonzo is on it.
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  Speaker 1: Four Yeah, yeah, I just watched the segment they released
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  Speaker 1: on him. Congratulations Christian, well deserved and I think they
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  Speaker 1: really do a good job highlighting what a strong year
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  Speaker 1: he had last year, going against a lot of the
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  Speaker 1: top receivers around the league. Showed some highlights of I
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  Speaker 1: think you don't remember. Against the Jets, he had a
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  Speaker 1: nice past breakup on DeVante Adams down here the goal line.
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  Speaker 1: Also showed a nice past breakup that he had against
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  Speaker 1: Marvin Harrison Junior in Arizona talking to Arizona guys, talking
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  Speaker 1: about we really need to focus on Christian Gonzalez. So
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  Speaker 1: it's that's good. I mean, that's what we talk about.
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  Speaker 1: They need talent and he's Scott talent.
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  Speaker 2: Didn't They used to release this like bit by bit
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  Speaker 2: in the past, so I think.
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  Speaker 1: I think the full episode airs tonight, but they are
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  Speaker 1: releasing a couple here and there of the videos. So
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  Speaker 1: I believe the videos, I mean, like is honest. Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I know it's broken up. I think it's just eighty
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  Speaker 1: to one hundred is the first.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, okay, that's why we know about Gonzales.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and they put up the video this morning of Gonzales.
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  Speaker 1: I think. So we don't know the whole list yet, No,
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  Speaker 1: not yet, not yet.
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  Speaker 2: So was there a chance that another Patriots higher.
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  Speaker 1: That's sure? Yeah, yeah, I mean there's chance there were
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  Speaker 1: no Patriots on it last year, and now Gonzalez got
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  Speaker 1: I can't imagine.
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  Speaker 3: I imagine Gonzo would be the highest.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess so.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so unless.
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  Speaker 3: Unless Diggs gets like an automatic.
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  Speaker 1: I mean that's the injury. Which, by the way, there
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  Speaker 1: was a video too. I finally had a chance to
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  Speaker 1: watch Defont Diggs talking on some jet but he was
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  Speaker 1: just talking about learning McDaniel's system. I got me fired up.
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  Speaker 1: You know, it's just you know what.
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  Speaker 2: Paul shows right, Sometimes they just drive me crazy. They
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  Speaker 2: took that quote that Diggs had about knowing what everybody
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  Speaker 2: else is doing and that's important to him, and knowing
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  Speaker 2: the contours of the routes and everything as Oh McDaniel, see,
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  Speaker 2: he's saying McDaniel's system is too complicated.
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  Speaker 1: It's like, how do you get that from that? Oh?
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  Speaker 2: It just it just drove me crazy, the narrative that
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  Speaker 2: they were trying to make that a negative. No, that's
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  Speaker 2: a positive. It shows like there are a lot of
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  Speaker 2: football players and Will McDonough, the late Will McDonough who
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  Speaker 2: was the told me, I remember once we were in Pittsburgh.
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  Speaker 2: He said, never ask a football player about football because
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  Speaker 2: all they know is their own position. All they know
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  Speaker 2: is what they're supposed to do, unless it's a quarterback.
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  Speaker 2: You know. Now he might be exaggerating, obviously, but like
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  Speaker 2: when I hear a football player like that saying I
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  Speaker 2: need to know what everybody's doing on the field because
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  Speaker 2: that makes me better.
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  Speaker 1: I love that. Yeah, I love that.
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  Speaker 2: That's not Oh, Josh McDaniel's system is very complicated and
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  Speaker 2: I need to learn. I don't know where they got
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  Speaker 2: that from.
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  Speaker 1: It's a great debate to have because I've said before
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  Speaker 1: in the past, if you're Josh McDaniels and you've established
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  Speaker 1: a system to the point where it can almost be
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  Speaker 1: a thinking organism after the snap and adjust accordingly, how
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  Speaker 1: can you go back to like I don't know, I
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  Speaker 1: got a bunch of dumb guys. We just have to
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  Speaker 1: go to a basic system where it's like just run
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  Speaker 1: the route. Like I can't imagine you would ever back
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  Speaker 1: up after you've been to the point where you can
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  Speaker 1: have a system that thinks after the snap and adjust
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  Speaker 1: the defenses. So I get why Paul shows get upset
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  Speaker 1: me it's perfect because that's been a knock on McDaniels.
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  Speaker 1: But I think that that extracts from the equation with
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  Speaker 1: something we've learned after this, which was that it was
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  Speaker 1: a lot about Brady too.
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  Speaker 2: It was a lot about Braiden. It was a lot
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  Speaker 2: about Brady, but a lot of these receivers who didn't
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  Speaker 2: make it here. It's not like they left here and
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  Speaker 2: then you know, went crazy elsewhere. You know John Osmith recently,
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  Speaker 2: But I think that was less about learning, you know,
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  Speaker 2: the system and all that, and it was more about
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  Speaker 2: how he was being used.
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  Speaker 1: Yea, you know, a little bit of a different player
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  Speaker 1: than they usually use. But yeah, look, this is a
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  Speaker 1: young team, and I don't think anybody's expecting this to
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  Speaker 1: be the best offense in the NFL right now in
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  Speaker 1: twenty twenty five. But if you're realistically saying we want
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  Speaker 1: to build something around Drake May for the long term,
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  Speaker 1: then maybe you take some lumps this year and you
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  Speaker 1: let Drake May learn this system inside and out so
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  Speaker 1: that he can get to a level that Brady was at.
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  Speaker 1: But I love hearing Stefan Diggs talk about things about
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  Speaker 1: getting other players open and knowing, because that's I mean,
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  Speaker 1: like you said, I mean, we know this about this system.
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  Speaker 1: And there's a little concept. You know, it's a three
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  Speaker 1: and two and three man route concept. So if you're
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  Speaker 1: on this side with three guys and they say this
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  Speaker 1: one word, whatever it might be, you got to know
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  Speaker 1: what all three parts are doing because there's a chance,
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  Speaker 1: especially a receiver like Diggs, that he could be in
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  Speaker 1: any one of those positions. So just seeing the intensity
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  Speaker 1: in his eyes and the focus, it's like, this system
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  Speaker 1: isn't too complicated for really good players who really want it.
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  Speaker 1: And even if it is, and even if it does
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  Speaker 1: cause some growing pains this year. I'm okay with that
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  Speaker 1: because we're building for the long term and I want
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  Speaker 1: to get to a point where this is that offense.
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  Speaker 1: Not that it'll be a level that Tom Brady had.
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  Speaker 1: That might be unrealistic, But I still think Drake May
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  Speaker 1: can get to a point where he knows what everybody's doing.
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  Speaker 1: He's gonna understand things quickly. We just have to be
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  Speaker 1: acknowledged there might be some growing pains, but I don't
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  Speaker 1: want to dumb down the system because you don't think, you.
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  Speaker 2: Know, along the same lines, I don't think McDaniels. I
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  Speaker 2: think McDaniels is smart enough to know that I can't
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  Speaker 2: just dump it all on Drake May right from the start.
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  Speaker 2: He's gonna, you know, ease him into it, and you
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  Speaker 2: know it'll it'll be step by step, not just for
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  Speaker 2: McDaniel's I mean for Drake May, but also for the receivers.
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  Speaker 2: Tom Brady didn't have everything, all the answers on day one,
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  Speaker 2: you know, year two or so. I think Josh try
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  Speaker 2: us McDaniels to be smart enough to know how to implement,
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  Speaker 2: you know, what he's trying to do.
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  Speaker 1: You know.
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  Speaker 2: I also we also know that McDaniels traveled around last
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  Speaker 2: year to kind of learn what the new trends are,
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  Speaker 2: what colleges are doing, what other teams are doing. That
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  Speaker 2: tells me that he realizes he needs to adapt as well.
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  Speaker 2: Sure you don't have Tom Brady. He knows that you know,
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  Speaker 2: all these all these people that just want to force
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  Speaker 2: feed the narrative that McDaniels is stuck in the mud
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  Speaker 2: and this is what he does, and you know, helly
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  Speaker 2: high water, you know we're gonna do it this way.
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  Speaker 2: It like, I don't think. I don't think pretty much
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  Speaker 2: any off any offensive coordinator who's any good does it
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  Speaker 2: that way.
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  Speaker 1: He's stuck in the mud because he's asking too much
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  Speaker 1: of his players, Like that doesn't make sense to me.
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  Speaker 2: That means that, you know, right, the professional football players,
• 14:51
  Speaker 2: they should there should be demands put on them.
• 14:54
  Speaker 4: And that's a defense that Hoyer had of McDaniels out
• 14:57
  Speaker 4: when they were in Vegas together. Was that not to
• 15:00
  Speaker 4: say Horier was calling out his former Vegas teammates, but
• 15:03
  Speaker 4: he really pushed back on the narrative that Josh was
• 15:07
  Speaker 4: the playbook, was too hard or he was too much
• 15:09
  Speaker 4: of like a hard ass and stuff. Brian was just
• 15:11
  Speaker 4: like I don't know, I experienced it in New England
• 15:14
  Speaker 4: with Josh, and it's just that was the expectation and
• 15:17
  Speaker 4: maybe in Vegas they didn't live up to that, maybe
• 15:19
  Speaker 4: they didn't have a player the caliber of Tom Brady
• 15:22
  Speaker 4: to pull everyone up to that. But to me, that's
• 15:24
  Speaker 4: kind of how I look at the critiques of what McDaniels.
• 15:28
  Speaker 2: You know, and one of the critiques with Daniels is
• 15:30
  Speaker 2: that he's never really succeeded without Tom Brady, you know,
• 15:34
  Speaker 2: for the most part. And you look at the Raiders,
• 15:37
  Speaker 2: you look at the Rams, and you look at Denver,
• 15:40
  Speaker 2: and that's true. But I think in those situations, well
• 15:44
  Speaker 2: not the Rams, but certainly with Denver and the Race,
• 15:47
  Speaker 2: he was also the head coach. And just like we've said,
• 15:50
  Speaker 2: you know, Bill, a GM has hurt build a coach.
• 15:52
  Speaker 2: I think Josh the GM, I mean Josh the coach,
• 15:56
  Speaker 2: probably hurt Josh the coordinator because he had to think
• 16:01
  Speaker 2: about all this other stuff too, right, and so he
• 16:05
  Speaker 2: wasn't able to give his full attention to being an
• 16:07
  Speaker 2: offensive coordinator. I think that hurt him. I think now
• 16:10
  Speaker 2: he's back to just being a coordinator, and I'm excited
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: about what he's going to do, and you think.
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: From Josh's perspective, I imagine there's not a lot of
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: like under the gun, I need this to be great,
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: Like he probably be here for a couple of years
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: at least, right, Like, he's not going to jump to
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: a head coaching job next year unless it goes amazing,
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: and I mean even then it might be a little
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: bit of a stretch. But I would imagine Josh is
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: trying to exhibit some patience too of look, I really
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: want to build something here. Sure he's heard everything you
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: just said, Fred, because every radio show talks about that,
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: they point out his other experiences and then when you
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: talk about his success here, it gets well that was
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: all Tom Brady. You know, you find a way to
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: completely minimize his success. So I'm sure he hears all
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: that stuff and says it's like I said, it's an
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: opportunity for Josh McDaniels to come in here re establish
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: this offense with a new quarterback under a new head coach.
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: And really, I mean, at what point has he ever
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: had somebody with the talent like Drake May has, like
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: you know Sam Bradford with the Rams, or you know
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: Tebow and Cutler and that was never like this opportunity.
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: And the problem is he's the one that chose Tebou
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: as the head coach, right, so again you think Josh
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: the head coach might have hurt Josh coordinated.
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: Right, right, right, So I I look, I think Josh
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: is an excellent football mind, and I just think he
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: gets a lot of you know, discredit, which is this
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: is what happens.
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: Like almost this is a perfect proving opportunity for him.
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: It is you got a second year quarterback who only
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: really won one game last year, had a lot of
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: you know, problems keeping the ball safe, the offense was
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: not good. So if all of a sudden they are
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: good this year, he should get a lot of the credit.
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: That's right, That's right. And then you know, and then
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: we can get to the point of it was all
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: Drake May again and you know it just had nothing
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: to do.
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: But sure, you know, of course Drake, they should also
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: get credit. But this is like football is the greatest
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: team sport ever made. I think coaching comes into play
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: more in football than any other sport. You can't do
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: it on your own.
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely absolutely. That's why it's frustrated what you just said,
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: Fred is so true to me that this is the
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: ultimate team sport. And that's why when we get into
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: like divvying up credit in the minutia, it's like I
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: just zone out. It's not I don't care. I want
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: to see the team win, and you want to tell
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: me it was well sixty percent, this guy thirty percent,
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: this guy ten percent, Like, I don't care. You can
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: divide it up any way you want, but you need
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: to have everything in place, and it all has to
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: be working together to have a successful football team. No,
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: the greatest coach of all time ain't going to do
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: it all by himself without a quarterback. The greatest quarterback
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: in all time isn't you know, going to do it.
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: But I watch like Patrick Mahomes now, and I wonder,
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: at what point do we start saying Andy Reid's are
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: really lucky he got Patrick Mahomes because it's all Patrick
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: Mahomes like. Right now, they're still getting They're both getting credit. Right,
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: everyone's saying Andy Reid is the toast of the town
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: as far as coaching. You know, maybe you give it
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: a little credit to Philly for last year too, But
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: at some point is it going to change there or
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: is that just here? Is that just what we do
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: here will refine like, well we need to you know,
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: say it was all this guy and that's you know,
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: he's responsible. I don't know. They're great coach, great quarterback,
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: you need him both.
• 19:07
  Speaker 4: Yeah, the bigger picture is the culture that people like
• 19:10
  Speaker 4: that kind of everyone rises to that. And I don't know,
• 19:14
  Speaker 4: McDaniels went from an amazing culture here in New England
• 19:18
  Speaker 4: of winning an excellence and tried to emulate that as
• 19:20
  Speaker 4: a head coach. And it's just it's not something you
• 19:22
  Speaker 4: can just take out of thin air and make. So
• 19:25
  Speaker 4: now back here under Rabel who seemingly to us, it's
• 19:29
  Speaker 4: been great so far. The guys really seem to be
• 19:32
  Speaker 4: buying in. So hopefully it just gets to the old.
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: I mean, when you had the success that the Patriots had,
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: you know, it's natural to ask why, like why were
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: they so successful? And I think that's where this all
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: stems from. Who who's the architect, who gets the most credit?
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: Why did this happen? And it's fine, you know, I'm
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: reading the book by Gary Myers now the Belichick versus
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: Brady debate. You know, it's it's good reading. I live
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: through it, So I'm not really learning a lot, but
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: I'm not quite the way through. I think I'm probably
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: about two thirds of the way through. And right now
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: I see he's leaning probably towards Brady, you know, because
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: as any as good as any coach can be, it's
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: the players that have to execute it, the players that
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: have to.
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: Do And how much of Belichick was in Brady, you
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: know by that point of his knowledge that he's poured
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: into Brady. So yeah, there's no question the guy who's
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: got to be on the field, pulling the trigger, making
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: plays on the clutch, they get the most of the credit.
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: And Bill says that every time anyone asks me, and
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: I said from the.
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: Beginning, you know, when the debate first started, I think
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: both of them made each other better. You know, I
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: think Belichick would have been fine without Brady. Brady would
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: have been great without Belichick. But I don't think either
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: of them would have risen to the heights that they
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: did without each other. I think they both would have
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: found success, but to have this excess they had, I
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: think required a coach and a quarterback being on the
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: same page. And for most of the dynasty, I can't
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: say all of it, but for most of the dynasty
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: they certainly were.
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: You know, one more point, I just thought, well, I
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: was talking too, just in regards to McDaniels in his system,
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: where you have such a group of wide receivers that
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: you don't really know what you have, Well, let's let
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: this sort it out a little bit. Let's let what
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: guys can pick it up and are smart and are
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: on the ball, and you know, you're charting a course
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: this season forward. It isn't all about twenty twenty five.
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: It's about twenty twenty six and twenty twenty seven. You
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: got twelve or thirteen receivers on the roster right now.
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: We know Mac Hollins probably can figure it out. He's
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: played in it. Stefan Diggs has kind of played in
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: it with dable system. Who else can who else King?
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: So that's a good topic for discussion, because you're right.
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: Everything you said is right. Camp opens to the public
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: on July twenty third. The first preseason game is August eighth,
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: and then we're rolling. I mean, it's not you know,
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: you've got a month and a half before the first
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: regular season, you know, a month and a half from
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: the time camp opens. Six weeks until the first game
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: that counts. How quickly do you need to know who's
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: who when it comes to the receivers? And is there
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: a way to do that for McDaniels and Vrabel? Is
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: there a way to structure your practices in a way
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: that the cream rises to the cop the top quickly
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: because you don't have a lot of time for this.
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: No, And it goes on in the film room too,
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: And I imagine with so much of this being mental
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: that you're gonna know. And Vrabel is known for calling
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: guys out in practice and meetings, just like Belichick was.
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: But you're right, I wonder Mac Collins, is he healthy?
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: Is Stefan Diggs healthy? Are they ready to go? If
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: they're not ready to go? Does that maybe give a
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: little bit more of an apportain to some of these
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: younger guys to pick it up? But you know, for
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: someone like Javon Baker, for example, who some people are
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: still high on and think has an opportunity. Was he
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: able to get it up?
• 23:07
  Speaker 7: Is he?
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: Or do we get out there and you see not
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: just him, but any player like no, no, no, over there,
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: over there, you know, getting re lined up. We saw
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: a lot of that last year where we got to
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: stop re huddle those kind of things. Any of those
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: mistakes I think will really stand out during training camp.
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: Guys who just don't seem to be in the right
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: place at the right time. And that's I think a
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: big feature of Josh's system knowing what to do. So
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: it's a big thing. It's gonna be really interesting.
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: I've watched enough of these camps where you get the
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: early indicators about who they're favoring, who matches up with who,
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: who's getting the reps, that type of thing. So it
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: I think within the first certainly by the joint practice,
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: and after that, we'll kind of know.
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: Who who's running, who's with the top group, which is
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: probably gonna be five or six guys that are you know,
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: their two fields, they kind of divide up. You'll have
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: a sense of who's the type. You already have a
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: little bit of that sense. But it's uh, I think
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: it's be really interesting. I just think, you know, like
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: I said, Mac Hollins, that's probably why he's here a
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: little bit too. It's just he knows what Josh is selling.
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: He understands it. He had a great year under Josh's system,
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: but you know which of those guys does it? Does
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: it really click for Kaishan Boodie? Is he you know
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: those kind of things? And and it's Drake picking it
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: up too. Is Drake, you know, feeling comfortable? Yeah, that's
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: what we saw over the course of the spring, he
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: looked more.
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: Have we figured out where, uh, this little passing camp
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: happened with? Because I've heard Tampa and I've also heard
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: North Carolin.
• 24:33
  Speaker 4: I'm pretty sure North Carolina because then I saw another
• 24:36
  Speaker 4: video that was at Davidson Okay.
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: I saw the stadium and I looked at it.
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: So was that that was that the Drake to Remandre
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: on a on a.
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: What is it like a traveling road show? Can't they
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: just find one place and stick with it?
• 24:51
  Speaker 8: Well?
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: Is it confirmed that they were ever in Florida?
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: No, I don't know. They're caught conflicting reports about about
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: where they were.
• 24:58
  Speaker 4: But I looked at the actual state, looked it up
• 25:01
  Speaker 4: and it was Davidson.
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: Okay college.
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: That makes sense.
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: I don't know how far that is from the ocean.
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: Maybe they're I mean, I've heard everything from Drake's old
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: high school to some college. I've heard Tampa.
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: Well, it's it's I mean, this might sound silly, and
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: I wish Paul was here because he would probably make
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: fun of me and laugh about it. But like, I
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: really enjoyed seeing Drake launch that bomb to remondering, almost
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: more than watching the private workouts that most quarterbacks and
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: teams do. It just reminded me of a bunch of
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: boys hanging out doing stupid stuff together. Reminds me of like,
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: you know, some of my best friends from college that
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: I played with, and it's like, those are the bonds
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: I think that make teams. Yes, you want to go
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: work out, We're gonna throw some passes. Great, everybody's got
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: to do it, stay sharp, stay in shape a little bit.
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: But at the same time, like if you guys all
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: really really like each other, and I mean that that
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: to me and body did It's just like, what a
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: bunch of idiots out there. And I mean that in
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: a great way, you know, like that's what me and
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: my stupid friends are doing. Let's see we can complete
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: a pass off this thing, I'm gonna jump up. So
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: I think there's good vibes coming from the offense and
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: from Drake May and I just hope this momentum all
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: carries over. It's the same way last year. I remember
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: saying like this is great. Now every no one knows
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: anything about drop May or anything. But once we start playing,
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: you know it's going to start the game. Games are
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: gonna get lost, and problems will start to happen. But
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: right now, I think they got a lot of positive
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: momentum in more ways than one going into this training camp.
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: Mike and Florida writes in the difference between your show
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: and Paul's shows is that you are both critical of
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: the team, but you guys want us to win, and
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: those guys want us to lose because it helps their ratings.
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: Even the post game when they lose, the guy Joe
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: Murray sounds happy. It's crazy. I don't agree with that
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: completely because the ratings are worse in a town where
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: a team doesn't do well. The ratings are never better
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: for any of the shows than when the team is
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: doing well, whether it's the Patriots, Red Sox or whoever.
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: But for the host in the moment, it's kind of
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: better when this stuff to bitch about. Yeah, you know, so,
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: I agree that part, But the ratings are better when
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: the team is doing well.
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: I to be honest, and I usually will dabble during
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: the season because I feel like for these shows, we
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: need to stay sharp. And sometimes it's great to hear
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: Felger go on one of his rants and imagine how
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: I would respond to it, but without any pushback. Like
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: it was fun when the Patriots were good and it
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: was like, well, yeah, but Belichick's still gonna get you, you know,
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: And it's to me when they've been bad the last
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: couple of years, it just feels like punching down and
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: it's like anything that is possibly could be wrong, we're
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: going to shine a light on that, and it's like,
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: that's not this team anymore. This is like a team
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: that's young and unproven that I want to get excited
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: about to see grow together and not just sit there
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: and take a dump on every little minutia that is
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: wrong or like. So, I really haven't been listening to
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: any of Paul's shows at all lately, and I'm sure
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: that'll change a little bit once I get into the season,
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: but I just it doesn't ring true to me anymore.
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: It was fun when they were good and you were like, oh,
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: eedif Felger they won this one, or you know, But
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: when you're like, yeah, we know they're bad. They won
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: four games, Like, you're not telling me anything. I didn't know,
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: Like what do you what do you want to do?
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: It's just it's not compelling radio to me. I don't
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: know what the ratings are like for them, but to me,
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: it's just it's a lot more fun when there's some
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: back and forth and it feels like, oh, the Patriots
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: are good and maybe you're wrong about that. You're like, no, guys,
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: when you're saying this, they won four games last year,
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah they were bad.
• 28:24
  Speaker 4: I think audiences are just smarter now too, Like the
• 28:27
  Speaker 4: strategy of outrage sparking interest and clicks and headlines, it's
• 28:32
  Speaker 4: it's figured out by now.
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, you know the people who have it
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: down to an art form. I just find there's plenty
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: of stuff to talk about. I would have it constantly.
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, listen, I think Felger does a great job.
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: If we're gonna name names, you know, so I don't
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: mind that at all. But my problem is there's rarely
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: someone to talk back. There's rarely someone there, either with
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: the hoodspa or the not college to go back at him. Yeah,
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: and I think that would make it even better if
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: there was always a pall in the studio or somebody
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: who could call him out or at least give the
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: counter argument. I think there's too much agreement on you know,
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: going on.
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: You're right, Mike, You're right. Yeah, No, I agree with you.
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: I think they're great at what they do. I'm just
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: saying for me and for like getting me excited about
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: arguing about the team or talking about talking points. It's like,
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: you're not really providing me any talking points that I'm
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: interested in talking about, Like right now, I love talking
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: about position battles and where the depth is and where
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: players need to emerge, and those things are so fascinating
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: to me. I could talk about them in the middle
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: of July when we have nothing to talk about for hours.
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: But you know, I think you have to kind of
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: do it in the season though. You have to be
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: on top of what they're talking about because they drive
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: a lot of the conversation. A lot of the calls
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: that we're going to get are people who heard that
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: what they were saying are like, I'm going to call
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: on the Patriots unfiltered and pairrot that to them now,
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: you know, so you got to be ready.
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: But more importantly you heard about Brady and Sophia.
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: Yes, I'm hoping we were talking.
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: About how how much older is she fifty?
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: Early fifties, she's the early fifties, he's like forty eight.
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: I believe she looks like she's still like early for
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: he's a Butell South America.
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: Giselle was older than Tom.
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, just a couple of years, not as much,
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: I know.
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: And and then wasn't Bridget moynihan also older than Tom?
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: I would think so yeah.
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: That probably think well, if if at that point she
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: was older, she's older now, she would always be older.
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: How was Irena Shiit?
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: Oh? Wow, you're really going down the list here.
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: He has a type. I love it he.
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: Does, right, except for well, I wonder, like I think
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: is Romanian?
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: I wonder if growing up with three older sisters kind
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: of has him. He has an affinity towards.
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: Fire, was getting yelled at by his sister. I just
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: picture four. Bridget's fifty four. Okay, yeah, I think they're
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: all a little bit little bit older than him.
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: I love that for him.
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: Reid, wasn't that a rumor at one point that.
• 31:05
  Speaker 4: Off, Well, there was a brief rumor at Jeff Bezo's sweating.
• 31:09
  Speaker 4: He was like talking to Sydney Sweeney and I was like,
• 31:11
  Speaker 4: they're just talking.
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: That's on his type. And then a couple of days later,
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: so Regard was like, that's more like it, just.
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: Like when he's getting yelled at by that like that accent.
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: Like her and Modern Family. Just I love her. I
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: think she's awesome. So she looks great. Still like killing.
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: It career in a Modern Family.
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: What you know? That was such a good show.
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: The rumor is Stefon Diggs has broken up with Cardi B.
• 31:34
  Speaker 8: Great.
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, focus on, focused on.
• 31:37
  Speaker 3: Focus on the season. He's focused on his recovery. I
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: love it.
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: No distractions, no, I uh no, Everyone's gonna probably make
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: fun of me as I like slowly get on the
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: stiff On Digs bandwagon. But I'm getting on it for sure.
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: Settled.
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: I'm excited to watch him play, and just like just
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: the way he was talking to the camera about learning
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: and was like, this guy is locked in, Like I
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: love it, Like he just he gives the vibe still
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: of a guy with a chip on his shoulder, and
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: I guess that's you know what annoyed me about him
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: when he played for other teams and he plays on
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: the edge and he likes talking.
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: Welcome to the world of the closest we had was
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: Randy Moss and Brady in particular, how to spend a
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: lot of time himself keeping Randy focus because he's such
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: a pied piper and he could lead other players down
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: the wrong path, and it was it was a job
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: keeping him, you know, focused on football and not bitching
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: about money and that type of thing.
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: Well, if I'm if I'm Kayshawan Boody or Jalen Polk
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: or go right down the list, and I see that video,
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: it's you know, he's that's leadership to me. That's showing
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: he's locked in. He's on a private plane. Where's he going?
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: I don't know, but you can tell that he's caged
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: in this and such a good example for this receiving
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: room that needs that kind of leadership and needs that
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: kind of kick in the butt and to be like,
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: what are you doing when you're flying back from wherever
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: you're gonna be in your playbook? Then like no, Like,
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: that's what Brady did as well. Brady set the tone.
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: I think Bill said it one hundred times and the
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: other coaches when your best players are your hardest workers,
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: and set the tone. It's a great recipe for success.
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: I remember in the locker room some of the rookies
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: were playing, you know, ping pong or I forget what
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: they were doing. They weren't in their play and you know,
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: McGinnis walked by and you know, why aren't you in
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: your playbook?
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, And I think verbel different because he's the
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: coach now, but I think there's a similar vibe of
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: that of holding guys accountable mentioned earlier, known for calling
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: guys out in meetings with questions that put you on
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: the spot, like Bill did. I think that that that's
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: just such a huge element. People talk about the Patriot way.
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: I don't know if that's really what it was. But
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: McGinnis everybody talks about his door being where Jawan Bentley's
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: was right by that back door, and anybody who's trying
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: to leave you got to walk by the enforcer of
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: the team, and everything was a competition with those guys.
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: Oh hydration to all of it. You got to get
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: back to the point where it's that competitive within the
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: locker room to push each other to be.
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: Better self policing.
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: Yes, that's I mean, that's the dream for a coach,
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: because you don't have to then worry about you know,
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: I now have to go in and discipline this guy.
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: It's no the teammates are gonna hold him accountable for
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: not doing enough.
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: Andre's right, sin but says I like this combination, Mike Alex.
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: It's fun, light and varied. I can't wait for the
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: eighth I can't wait for the eighteenth for two reasons.
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: One obviously the Forge in Foxboro second episode, and it's
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: the day they tell me if I pass my Step
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: one medical residency here in Costa Rica, go for it.
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: I love hearing you guys in my spare time in
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: the car everywhere. I'm kind of nervous since only twenty
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: five percent of the people who did the exam can pass,
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: and then I have to do Step two. Can't wait
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: to hear the news that I passed so I can
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: sit and watch the whole episode. Thanks guys, in a
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: hug for everyone. Speaking of Forge and Foxborough, forged in Pittsburgh.
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: God, did you see someone h.
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: They're getting a lot of heat. I don't think it
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: has to do with a documentary. I think it's like
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: some type of uniform release type of thing. But it
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: is kind of weird and.
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: It's not great copywriting.
• 35:12
  Speaker 4: Not to be super picky, but there's not really any alliteration.
• 35:16
  Speaker 4: I get like the forge steel like metal, sure.
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: But put together in Pittsburgh, it doesn't have the same
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: ring to it.
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's all right, but that was our fans were
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: quick to jump on that.
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: Yes, there's one team that we can still kind of
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: talk some smack too for real. Right, we'll see how
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: it goes though. Week three, Boy, that's gonna be that's
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: gonna be a good game. We need a name for
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: the thing, Like Evan and Paul were Salt and Peppers,
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: so maybe we need like a nineties you know, wrap
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: band like.
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: The Fam show, Fred Allixon, Mike the Fam.
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: Okay, okay, Workshop back Pocket's trying to.
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: Think like TLC, like Salt Peppa TLC, but we're not.
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: We're not tl r C.
• 35:55
  Speaker 4: Well, I think an emailer came up with salt and Peppers.
• 35:58
  Speaker 4: So if you guys think of anything, send in our way.
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: Let's see.
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: This is.
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: Brandon in Maine says I have some would you rather
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: questions involving our quarterback in regards to comparison with other quarterbacks.
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: You won't find the top end guys here Mahomes, Burrow,
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: Allan Jackson, as those aren't realistic. And you won't find
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: the older guys Roger Stafford Gino Smith because they're short timers.
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: In short. In a recent discussion with a friend comparing
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: May to other quarterbacks, who we'd rather have for now
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: in the next five years? So there is some need
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: to consider longevity, growth and staying healthy. This exercise helped
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: us see just how highly or not we thought of Drake.
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: So for the next five years, who would you rather have?
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: I broke it into three sections. See if you make
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: it too complicated. For the first two my friend and
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: I were in agreement it was always Drake. The final
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: section is where we found this all right. The first
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: section easy call Drake or Bonnett.
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: Drake. Oh, you had to think, well, Bonis had a
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: good year. I want to give him some respect.
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: Drake or Kyle Murray. Oh, Drake Drake or Brock Purty, Drake,
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: Drake or Jared Goff.
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: The next five years.
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: Drake, Drake or Baker Mayfield d Drake or Tua Drake.
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: Now this is they have to think about it. Section
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: Drake or Trevor Lawrence. Ah, Drake, I'd have to think
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: about that.
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: Did you have to think about the Baker one?
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: No?
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: No, No, I think a lot of these answers were
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: basically I think.
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: We've seen Baker Mayfield's ceiling.
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: Right, That's what that's that's That's what I'm saying. Not
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: to say that I think Drake is better than Baker
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: Mayfield right now, but I think I'm that he might
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: be bad.
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: I still and maybe I'm just naive and and sticking
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: with my original take, but I'm still I still think
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: that Trevor Lawrence hasn't reached his dealing in the NFL
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: for what for various reasons. Yeah, Drake or Jalen hurts.
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: Guys awesome, probably hurts, probably hurts.
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: I'm going to take Drake here because I think in
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: the end he's going to be the better passer.
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: That's yeah, that would be That would be why I
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: would take Drake if he thought that. But I got
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: to put some respect on.
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: Drake or Dak Prescott Drake. Okay, so this is the
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: harder section, Drake or Jordan Love.
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: I take Drake. I've seen enough of Jordan Love. I
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: think he's good, but.
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: Drake or c J. Stroud Really really okay, Drake, how
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: come you're not answering anything?
• 38:43
  Speaker 3: And I'm a libra. I'm really bad at decision making.
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: She blamed astrology.
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: Drake or Caleb Williams.
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: Drake.
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Drake or Jayden Daniels.
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: I might reserve answered all after this season, but I
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: gotta see Rake or Justin Herbert. See that to me
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: is similar, and I'm gonna go with Drake. Same kind
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: of like unknown with Drake.
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: Still maybe we've seen the ceiling for Herbert too. I
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: don't know, he hasn't want anything.
• 39:11
  Speaker 4: And you just keep waiting for him to finally like
• 39:13
  Speaker 4: not that he hasn't broken out, but like really.
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, So Brandon says, in the end, I took Drake
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: over everyone, but Justin Herbert. My friend preferred James and Herbert.
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's interesting. I had a similar thought last night.
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: I was watching Brock Perdy get interviewed about I was
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: watching the NFL Live yesterday. They interviewed Petty about losing Debo,
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: and he was talking about Debo and his impact on
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: the on the forty nine ers. But I just wondered
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: how many fans truly believe their quarterback could be the guy,
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: you know, like, do you really believe that? Like when
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: I look at brock Perdy, I'm like, I don't believe
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: he's the guy. I understand San Francisco is in a
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: position where they kind of have to pay him, like
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: they couldn't just let him walk right Yea, So it's hard.
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: You almost feel like you're being held hostage. And I
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: do the same thing with like some of those quarterbacks,
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: Like you know, to Tampa fans, they really think Baker
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: Mayfield's the guy in their heart of hearts with no
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: no one else around. I don't know, And that's a
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: lot of how I figured out some of my answers
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: to that. Yeah, because I say, you know, Burrow, sure,
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: Cincinnati Fanas's the guy, no question, you know, obviously, mahomes
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson, sure they believe, even though there might be
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: a little doubting get the good one, Josh Allen. They
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: believe one hundred percent. But I don't think the list
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: is very long of fan bases that truly believe like
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: they got the guy. They so guy, what defines the
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: guy in your mind? You believe this could be a
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: super Bowl winning quarterback and consistently have your team deep
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: into the playoffs. You know, you believe one hundred percent
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: this is a guy that can take us into the
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: playoffs every year, and one of these years he's absolutely
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: gonna get.
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: So that's why consistency every year because of him.
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: But the great ones great, right, I mean in Burrow,
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: they had a down year last year, but I think
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: everybody still believes that Joe Burrow is, you know, an
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: elite quarterback in this league with the capability. He's already
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: gone to one super Bowl, But I mean, I'm not
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: there yet. On Drake, like, I don't one hundred percent. Yes,
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: he's definitely the guy, And I think aybody who says
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: that to you after that season is lying to themselves
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: or lying to us. And that's not a bad thing.
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: It's just he was a rookie last year. I don't
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: know if any of those rookie quarterbacks, maybe Daniels, you
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: could say, yes, they they probably definitely believe he's the
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: guy right now. But let's see how he does over
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: two three years span. Some things change around him. Does
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: he avoid injury?
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: Those are questions, What does the team look like around them,
• 41:20
  Speaker 3: et cetera.
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, gee, those new commanders uniforms too, they brought
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: back Yeah, p old ones just with the w on
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: the scene people. I like it too. It's a tradition,
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: Like I am a guy that I want to look different.
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: So there's not much, but I just think the classic
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: like you look on the field and it takes you
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: a millisecond to know what teams are on the field.
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: If you have to look on the fielder like what
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: is this unless it's like one of those weird throwback weeks,
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: you know, like, I don't want it. I want to
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: know who the team is right away.
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: Okay, So I like that one. Let's see Mark and
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: Cheddar says, after all the Christian and La talk recently,
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: it made me wonder how Fred and Paul would rank
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: the following beloved listeners least to most hated. He's got
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: five Christian in La, Mark and the Bay, Jeff in Vegas,
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: Matt and Brooklyn, and Eric in Providence.
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: I don't know two of those.
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: I think I think least would be Eric in Providence.
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: Most right now is Christian in La. But at the
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: time Mark in the Bay was.
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: Was that just for Eric? Though?
• 42:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah he was an actual listener.
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: The form he's just kidding. I don't remember Matt and
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: Brooklyn that much, but I guess he was annoying. And
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: Jeff and Vegas. I kind of remember.
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: Now Christian's embraced the mantle of the show villain and
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: I think it's good.
• 42:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, she must be in vacation. We never heard from
• 42:36
  Speaker 3: him this week, haven't we.
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: It's more tropical than that.
• 42:39
  Speaker 6: Oh.
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: Another listener from a while ago, what happened to Mikey
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: Vandalism with his Premium Audio? I forget about him. Yeah,
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: that was his name, Mikey Vandalism, And he is kind
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: of saying his slogan was premium Audio.
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: Really.
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know what happened to him. He's probably
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: in jail.
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it is funny.
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: It was way back.
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: I've realized a couple of times, like somebody just disappears
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: from social media and you think about, whatever happened to
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: that guy? Yeah? I tweeted him a couple of times.
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: Or there was some guy who covered the NFL for
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: a little bit that again was like all it was
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: in the mix with every major company that just disappeared.
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: It happened sometimes, what happened? Who's William Benison? I don't know.
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: Is he still around?
• 43:26
  Speaker 4: He was like he got what happened to Miguel cap
• 43:32
  Speaker 4: space mil.
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: Oh he's still around?
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: Right? I think I think he left Twitter and you
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: went to the other one. What is that?
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: Blusky eight five five Pats five hundred is the hotline?
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: Christian Chris with a T, I A N in Boston
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: is on the line.
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: What's up?
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: Christian?
• 43:53
  Speaker 9: Hey guys, you know, it's interesting you talk about where
• 43:57
  Speaker 9: do all those people go? I can tell you I
• 43:59
  Speaker 9: think the pandemic and the Trump administration got.
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: A lot of them off. So yeah, some of them, Yeah, yeah.
• 44:07
  Speaker 9: I mean you don't see anybody posting like they used
• 44:10
  Speaker 9: to post on there anymore. It's it looks like with
• 44:13
  Speaker 9: sports content. But I wanted to talk about the you
• 44:18
  Speaker 9: guys mentioned about, you know, off the top of the
• 44:21
  Speaker 9: show about you know, how did it all work when
• 44:23
  Speaker 9: Brady was feared during the Brady Belichick era? And you know,
• 44:27
  Speaker 9: obviously the credit a lot of the credit gost to
• 44:29
  Speaker 9: Bill and thom.
• 44:30
  Speaker 10: And rightfully so.
• 44:30
  Speaker 9: But the more I listened to ex players like Matt
• 44:34
  Speaker 9: Light or rich Olmberg or even Josh McDaniels on various
• 44:37
  Speaker 9: podcasts and stuff, it really was like the perfect storm
• 44:41
  Speaker 9: of players and coaches because when they talk about Dante
• 44:46
  Speaker 9: or they talk about Ivan, like the reverence is off
• 44:49
  Speaker 9: the charts, you know, and it's it wasn't just about Bill,
• 44:53
  Speaker 9: Like even when they talk about Billy O'Brien, a great
• 44:57
  Speaker 9: All of them were great teachers, and they would yell
• 45:00
  Speaker 9: at you and they would show you out, but they
• 45:03
  Speaker 9: would get the most out of you because they taught you.
• 45:06
  Speaker 9: And I'm just you know, I guess I really never
• 45:09
  Speaker 9: gave a whole lot of weight by that. You know,
• 45:12
  Speaker 9: I was like, this guy thinks this guy's good, you know,
• 45:15
  Speaker 9: and need that be the extent of it. But the
• 45:16
  Speaker 9: coaching is, you know, it wasn't obviously it wasn't just Bill.
• 45:20
  Speaker 9: A little big part of it was it was the potus.
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, And I think being on Bill's staff kind
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: of in some ways it makes it tougher because you know,
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: you have to do as a coach, you have to
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: do what you're supposed to be doing. But in other
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: places it makes it easier because you just do what
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: I'm being told to do, Like Bill setting the tone,
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: he's he's the CEO, and as long as I follow
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: the way he wants things done. I've got a job.
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's exactly what what Dante Scarnekia said to me.
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: He said, Bill Parcells and Bill Belichick were the two
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: easiest coaches I ever worked for, because you knew exactly
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: what they expected of you every single day, and so
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: it's a good job for them establishing the system.
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: Yep, I mean, thanks Christian. I mean some of the
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: criticism of Bill was like he didn't think passed a
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: couple of days down the road and so coaches would
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: know when am I going to have time off? But
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: on the other hand, that was sort of the way
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: that Bill kept things in line. Let's not think about
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: things until we have to think about them. Let's focus
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: on today and tomorrow and get those days right, and
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: then we'll think about, you know, when we're leaving for
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: the joint practice and all that stuff. And that would
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: drive some people crazy, but it kept things orderly, kept
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: things in line, and.
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: Also, you know, helped the team overcome when they lose
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: a game or they'd win a game, like it was
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: always flushed down the toilet and you would just focus
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: on today and this week's opponent. And it's one of
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: the things I admire most about Bill Belichi's coaching philosophy.
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: Coaches around the league. I think we'll tell you, like
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: one day at a time, we're just but he really
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: lived it. That was you know, as you said, it
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: was baked within the system, within their scheduling, and everything
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: was focused on not letting guys get ahead of themselves,
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: to focus on the moment and to get better. And
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: it was key part of his coaching philosophy.
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: Yep, Nate's in Connecticut. Nate, you're becoming a regular caller.
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: What's up?
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: What up?
• 47:15
  Speaker 3: Not much?
• 47:16
  Speaker 8: How you guys doing?
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: Okay, So I.
• 47:19
  Speaker 8: Know you guys already mentioned this today, but it's about
• 47:22
  Speaker 8: Christian Dalas. So clearly he put the league on notice
• 47:26
  Speaker 8: this year, locking up like people like Jamar Chase and
• 47:30
  Speaker 8: DK Cast except for that one place.
• 47:34
  Speaker 9: But yeah, you guys know what I'm talking about.
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: The safety blue of the covers. It's not it's fall Yeah.
• 47:39
  Speaker 8: Well yeah, but anyways, he was ranked, you guys said,
• 47:44
  Speaker 8: eighty four on that top one hundred list.
• 47:47
  Speaker 11: Do you guys think this ranking is just.
• 47:50
  Speaker 9: Right too low or too high for him personally?
• 47:53
  Speaker 8: I think it might be a little too low. If
• 47:56
  Speaker 8: I had to put him somewhere. I'd probably put him
• 47:58
  Speaker 8: anywhere from sixty.
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: To well without okay, thanks Nate, without seeing the entire list.
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: It's hard to know that.
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: But I think this is more about politics, and this
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: is Gonzalez's second really his first full year.
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: So you start by saying, what's his number for just cornerbacks?
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, is he like the fourth best cornerback?
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: I mean, he's I didn't say he's definitely in the
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: top ten, you know, so yeah.
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: Oh, definitely in the top ten. So you start there,
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: where is he as a cornerback? What's his number there?
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: And then you expand out.
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: I think it's important to point out to the voting
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: the way the voting works with this. It is like
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: each player writes twenty players down. So you know, some
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: guys were putting Christian Gonzalez in their top ti.
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: Are you're allowed to put your own teammates?
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: And think so I think, oh, yeah, so you know
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: that it's a little bit restrictive in that regard. But
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: I look at it like the Pro Bowl, where you're
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: just building a name for yourself and then you know
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: you'll probably get more Pro Bowls even when you're kind
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: of pastor Prime because you have the name recognition. So
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: I think Gonzalez is building up. I think it's about
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: right for where he is in his career. He put
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: one really good season together and he has opportunity. I
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: think he'd move up next year for sure.
• 49:04
  Speaker 8: Yep.
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: Let's see John in South Carolina says I have never
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: agreed with Deuce more. He says, you guys are the
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: only sports media Boston sports media. I enjoy those shows
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: Duce was talking about are punching down and they bully
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: any thought that doesn't agree with them. Every time I try,
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: I do not make it through a show. I also
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: want to say the guy from La isn't in the
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: PFWPU class of bad guy. I think it was Mark
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: in the Bay who everyone hated, or Matt from Brooklyn
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: who had Eric aggravated constantly NBL Nick Baby Love who
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: had people aggravated with him while he was going through
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: his treatments. I can't remember his name, so I would
• 49:45
  Speaker 2: refer to him as a guy in La. He tries
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: too hard. When he said he was going to come
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: at people, nobody was worried. Okay, here is Nick baby Loved?
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: Well. I don't need a nickname, right, that Mark and
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: the big guy. He hasn't called a lot, and he
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: called more before I got here, but there are a
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: couple of times he called there and it was I
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: was like he was doing a bit like right directed
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: at Eric, like he called in specifically because he wrote
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: like a paragraph just ripping Erscalvino and then he hang up.
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: Who is this guy? But he's faded, I guess because
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: maybe Eric left and he doesn't have any more enjoyment.
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: There was another guy, oh, I forget his name, that
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: really went at Eric to the point where I had
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: to like stop reading.
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: It's usually he kind of encouraged that top somebody, not
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: Vinie Vegas.
• 50:33
  Speaker 12: I want to say it was a Jeff in Vegas.
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: No, but that was another guy. But there was another guy.
• 50:39
  Speaker 2: I think he was from Florida, maybe Jacksonville. I don't
• 50:42
  Speaker 2: know if it was. It wasn't Kakar, but he he
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: specifically went at Eric. Oh yeah, yeah.
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: What was it about Eric that just detracted people to
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: go out?
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: Because he had an air of pumposity to him, you know,
• 50:58
  Speaker 2: like a lot of people just wanted to stick a
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: pin in that balloon.
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: Plus I think you knew you were going to get
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: a reaction from him, which I think you did. You
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: would do that too. We're like, I'm gonna get it
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: going right here, I see an open door.
• 51:09
  Speaker 3: Well, it's like an antagonizer's dream.
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: It was just so easy. Give you the eyebrows, and
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: then you say something in near it just starts taing.
• 51:17
  Speaker 2: THEO rights in. The Steelers lived up to their name
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: as they stole Forge in Foxborough and changed it to
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: Forge in Pittsburgh. If I feel like this has to
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: put them over the Bengals in Fred's most hated teams, thoughts, Nah,
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: flat imitation is the sincerest form of flattering.
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: Steel mills.
• 51:37
  Speaker 2: They do some fort Yeah, I don't really care.
• 51:40
  Speaker 4: It's understandable, but it's like I wonder if they even
• 51:43
  Speaker 4: realized they were doing it.
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: They may not have better because Patriots putting on great
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: content that they're not aware of, and that shame on them.
• 51:49
  Speaker 3: You send them a season desist.
• 51:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it's it's fine. Yeah, we were coming on
• 51:57
  Speaker 2: one next week, July eighteenth.
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: Let's go.
• 52:00
  Speaker 2: We were first. Everybody knows we were first. That's all.
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: That's all we need to you know. Uh, back to
• 52:05
  Speaker 2: the phone. Eldred's on the phone. What's up Eldred.
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: There it is a good one.
• 52:12
  Speaker 2: Hey, you're in North Carolina. Did you happen to drive
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: past the Drake may passing camp.
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: He just trashed the receivers while he was driving by.
• 52:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah, imagine the background is just Eldrid pulls over like.
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: On the side of the road. Hey, y'all, you got
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: no receivers, yelling bumps.
• 52:28
  Speaker 2: Are Hey guys, I'm hauling gatorade.
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: You need that had we had DK out there, don't you?
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: I know? All right, I'm out.
• 52:40
  Speaker 13: Exactly what I got exactly right. Hey, but three Yeah,
• 52:48
  Speaker 13: did you read that thing about the quarterback you take
• 52:51
  Speaker 13: Drake Mayo over?
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 52:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I read that.
• 52:55
  Speaker 13: Yeah, yeah, you read it right. Yeah. Well yesterday the
• 53:01
  Speaker 13: same thing and between two guys who's hosting it and
• 53:07
  Speaker 13: do but they also, like y'all, they brought it up.
• 53:12
  Speaker 13: What coaches, where did you rank Mike Graveley at starting
• 53:18
  Speaker 13: this year?
• 53:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah? Right now, I'd put him right in the middle, probably,
• 53:23
  Speaker 2: you know, because you know, he's still got a lot
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: to prove. He had a few good years with Tennessee
• 53:29
  Speaker 2: and then a few down years. A couple you know,
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: his last two weren't that good. So I would say
• 53:34
  Speaker 2: I'd put him right in the middle of the pack
• 53:37
  Speaker 2: and we'll see what happens.
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, that's kind of what you have to say.
• 53:41
  Speaker 13: But yeah, they had him, they had him ranked, They
• 53:43
  Speaker 13: ranked him eight eighty.
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: Okay, I agree, eight perfect.
• 53:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, listen, I I hope by the end of the
• 53:51
  Speaker 2: season we're saying that or higher. But you know, you
• 53:54
  Speaker 2: just have to be realistic.
• 53:55
  Speaker 6: He does.
• 53:56
  Speaker 2: He doesn't have the track record a lot of other
• 53:58
  Speaker 2: coaches have.
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: I'll just say this, there's no other coach right now.
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: I'd rather have the link I know that where that's
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: operating the same thing with Drake with a little bit
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: of like unknown and pining the sky feelings towards him,
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: but watching the way that he captures this team's attention
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: on that practice field, he looks like a really good
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: coach to me, and giving this history with this team there,
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: there's nobody else I'd rather have right now.
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, I know that's a different way of
• 54:19
  Speaker 2: looking at it, and I agree with that.
• 54:21
  Speaker 13: Yeah, yep, Mike uh Rape, people want me over. I
• 54:26
  Speaker 13: wanted Ben Johnson. Yeah, like you said, I have to
• 54:29
  Speaker 13: listen to him, watch him go through the camp and
• 54:30
  Speaker 13: everything and how playoffs going okay of hyped up too.
• 54:34
  Speaker 13: I'm saying eight wins. I'm open eight or nine? Did
• 54:37
  Speaker 13: they go more? I put my I put my head
• 54:40
  Speaker 13: back on the store back top and junkie in like
• 54:41
  Speaker 13: I used to five years.
• 54:44
  Speaker 2: Okay, all right, thank you. I mean, you know, we
• 54:48
  Speaker 2: have to look at the list. You know, maybe I'm
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: underrating him, but you know mc veay, Andy Reid, uh.
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: Shanahan, see you know, yeah, I mean I think I think, yeah,
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: I think.
• 55:01
  Speaker 2: So those are three and you know, might be Rabele
• 55:07
  Speaker 2: might be a better coach than Shanahan, but you got
• 55:11
  Speaker 2: you have to prove it, you know, like we might
• 55:13
  Speaker 2: think and believe he's better, but I'm just thinking about
• 55:16
  Speaker 2: like the evidence, the actual empirical evidence out there.
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: Who else, well do you think dank Dan Campbell? I mean,
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: have had a lot of like Dan Campbell just want
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: a super right.
• 55:30
  Speaker 4: I mean, but even last season at the beginning of
• 55:33
  Speaker 4: the season, people were during the.
• 55:35
  Speaker 2: Season, oh yeah, he was on the hot season in
• 55:38
  Speaker 2: terms of the fans. Yeah. O'Connell up in Minnesota one. Yeah,
• 55:44
  Speaker 2: you know who else?
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: O'Connor is great one because it's it's just an example
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: of they had a great season last year. But there's
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: such belief in Minnesota right now that no matter what happens,
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: they experienced already one quarterback change over and he showed
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: he can do it with a new guy. So you
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: just feel really positive. Like they didn't go to the
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: NFC Championship or anything, and it was, you know, a
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: disappointing playoff loss for them, but I think there's such
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: belief in him talking earlier about like what guys really
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: believe in their quarterbacks. I think he's one coach if
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: I was a Minnesota Vikings fan that I'd say, I
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: think we got a really special coach that will make
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: it work as the inevitable ups and downs of the
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: NFL season.
• 56:17
  Speaker 2: You know, Sean Payton has a long track record, so
• 56:21
  Speaker 2: just based on his experience in the NFL, I think
• 56:24
  Speaker 2: you'd have to rank him higher at this point than
• 56:27
  Speaker 2: very able. But that could you know, that could change,
• 56:30
  Speaker 2: and we all hope it will.
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: I think we're right now and we were in this
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: stage last year too. You're in that gray area where
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: you can still kind of imagine what the possibilities are
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: with Drake May and Mike Rabel. Whereas as the season
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: start going you start getting reality hits you and then
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: you realize you know what it is actually going to be.
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: But at this point, when people ask us questions like this,
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: like you could still say, like, I think Drake may
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: could be a top five quarterback. I think Mike Rabel
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: can be top five point and very well they might be,
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: but we have to start. I'm not going to be
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: in fantasy lean forever. We were in fantasy land for
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: like three weeks last year, once the regular season started
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: and the reality started to hit home of what the
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: situation really was. But they are, you know, they're a
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: handful of teams. When you start to turn around Houston
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: last year they felt great, you know, and they still
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: feel great, but they had some reality kind of sinking
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: last year where they were struggled to protect c. J. Stroud.
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: So it's it's kind of a fun place to be
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: in this fantasy land place where you can just say,
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: like I think Drake could be great, I think Verbe
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: could be great. You know, we'll see once the reality
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: comes of how true that is.
• 57:27
  Speaker 2: Pete and Seattle writes in Pete Carroll, Pete maybe in Vegas.
• 57:32
  Speaker 2: He moved to Vegas?
• 57:33
  Speaker 3: Of course?
• 57:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, he says, I really appreciate your point about
• 57:38
  Speaker 2: the significant impact of coaching, especially in football. We saw
• 57:42
  Speaker 2: this clearly with Mac Jones in his second year. If
• 57:46
  Speaker 2: coaching is so crucial for quarterback in year two, it's
• 57:48
  Speaker 2: arguably even more vital for rookies transitioning from college to
• 57:52
  Speaker 2: the NFL, a notoriously difficult jump for all positions. This
• 57:55
  Speaker 2: brings me to the twenty four Patriots draft class. While
• 57:59
  Speaker 2: players like Polk and Baker have faced criticism, I wonder
• 58:03
  Speaker 2: if they were set up for failure. As Andrew Callahan
• 58:05
  Speaker 2: and Karen Garigian highlighted earlier this year, a large part
• 58:09
  Speaker 2: of last year's coaching staff was woefully inexperienced. While players
• 58:13
  Speaker 2: are accountable for their own performance, it's fair to question
• 58:15
  Speaker 2: the support they received well. According to Elliott Wolfe, he
• 58:22
  Speaker 2: kind of agrees with that. That was what he said
• 58:24
  Speaker 2: after the season. If we extend grace to Mac Jones
• 58:27
  Speaker 2: for his struggles under Matt Patrician Joe Judge in his
• 58:30
  Speaker 2: second year, shouldn't we consider that these rookies lack fundamental
• 58:34
  Speaker 2: coaching support when they needed it most. It's hardly surprising
• 58:38
  Speaker 2: that few of last year's draft picks blossom given the
• 58:41
  Speaker 2: inexperience of the coaching staff. So what are your thoughts
• 58:43
  Speaker 2: on this?
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah? True, and that's part of the reason made the
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: point about Jalen Polk last show we did, where you know,
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: if he had a really productive camp and then had
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: some struggles and they were unable to get him out
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: of those struggles, maybe some of that was self inflicted him.
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: I don't want to put it all on the coaching staff,
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: like he's just a superstar war to happen, but I
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: think that's a very very valid point.
• 59:07
  Speaker 2: Well, again, Elliott Wolfe said after this season, and I'm paraphrasing,
• 59:11
  Speaker 2: but I was hoping that a lot of these players
• 59:13
  Speaker 2: would have gotten more support. Is that what he said?
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: Development?
• 59:17
  Speaker 2: Maybe something something? Yeah, So that means coaching.
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that's I mean when he said that,
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: I'm like, of course, of course you did. Like even
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: when you look at again the summer, like you saw
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: Jalen Pole as the example being productive, and then you
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: got to the record season and it wasn't happening.
• 59:33
  Speaker 4: And that's kind of the difference of like the fantasy
• 59:35
  Speaker 4: land that we're living in right now that you were
• 59:36
  Speaker 4: just talking about. That's why it's different this year, Like, yes,
• 59:39
  Speaker 4: we're still living in a little bit of that fantasy,
• 59:42
  Speaker 4: but there's so much more experience ye behind the coaching staff.
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's why you believe that. I believe, you know,
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: I believe in in Vrabel right now. I think the
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: players believe in what he's selling now. I had my
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: Sharon Men's club talk the other day. I was like,
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: it's very well real. Is this for real? Like the
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: excitement stuff? And I said, look, I I'll just tell
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: you my limited experience. I mean, I've been here six
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: years now watching training camp. I just I've never seen
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: a coach out there with that kind of energy and
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: jumping from drill to drill and getting right in there.
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: Bill certainly, I gotta give credit to Bill. He could
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: talk to any position group and he would float. But
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: the energy that Rabel does it with, You're just where
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: is he? He's over there, he's in the middle of
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: a drill, he's got a pinny on, he's you know,
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: those things to me as a player, which just really
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: make you want to play hard for him. Definitely saw
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: an interview I think it was Mike and when you no, sorry,
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: it was Layden Robinson. Laden Robinson did an interview yesterday.
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: I just caught some highlights of it, but similar things
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: saying about Mike Rabel, like a guy you could just
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: tell how into it he is, how he's able to
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 1: jump from everything, you know, from drill to drill, and
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 1: it's infectious, I think. And that's that's what I'm expecting.
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 1: That this team is going to be built in his
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: mold of how he wants it, and his fingerprint is
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 1: going to be on all this and that to me
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: is what's super exciting, just to see a physical, aggressive
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: team when you're gonna come in here. My hope, and
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: again we're in fantasy land right now, but my hope
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 1: is that you in here to try to beat this team.
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 1: It's going to take a lot. You know, you're gonna
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: have to come with a good game because they're going
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: to play hard and aggressive, and they have more talent
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: now and that's probably you know, Paul was sitting here
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: and say that's the bottom line. You got more talent,
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: you're gonna be better. So hopefully it's convergence. As the
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: previous guy said, like, you need a little of everything,
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: and I think they've got the ingredients.
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  Speaker 2: Todd's in North Carolina on the hot line. What's up, Todd, Hey, guys,
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  Speaker 2: I've been enjoying the show, and I think he's been
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 2: talking about also the topics.
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  Speaker 10: But it's got something that's.
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  Speaker 12: Been I've been curious about for a while. How much
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 12: did the two losses to the Giants and the Super
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 12: Bowl really cemented in bill head that it's just it's
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 12: defense first, and and you seem to show after that
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 12: that he didn't give the offense the love that it
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 12: se that it needed. I don't know what you guys think,
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  Speaker 12: and I want to know.
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  Speaker 2: You're a well, if he thought that, then he's incorrect
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 2: because could have used more than fourteen points in that
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 2: uh seven Super Bowl, right right right? That was all
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 2: about the offensive line not protecting Brady and Brady having
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 2: a bad foot. We forget about that. But yeah, I
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 2: mean if we had scored more than fourteen points to
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 2: win that game, yeah, I.
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: Mean, what more can you do? It's just really a
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: matter about peaking at the right time. But I think
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: this hints at another point when're talking about like the
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: credit thing, it's like, well, it's Brady and Belichick and
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: then yeah, there's like three percent for I mean, like
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: how many of those everyone, like, I mean, I have
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 1: to tell every one of those Super Bowls the defense
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 1: had to make a play, super Bowl forty nine being
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: the most obvious example, where I mean they Marshall Lynch
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: just runs the ball and Brady loves another super Bowl.
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 1: You know, credit Brady to like, but it was a
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: convergence of everything at the right time. You got, you know,
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 1: forst Super Bowl ty Law gets a pick six, you know,
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: and then give Brady credit for Super Bowl fifty two
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 1: where the defense cannot stop a nosebleed, but Brady goes
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: berserker mode and makes it close right down to the end.
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: So it just all fed into each other, and the
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: defense especially, I feel like they just everybody wants to
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 1: forget about some of the necessary stops that they had
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: and show Super Bowls and takeaways and you know, big
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 1: plays Mike Rabel force and fumbles and all that stuff.
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  Speaker 2: I would say one of the underrated things. You know,
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 2: you always think about your team, but I think when
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 2: you play smart football, you know the kind of football
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 2: that Brad Vrabel's talking about taking, you know, advantage of
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 2: bad football when you're a smart football team and the
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 2: other team knows you're probably not going to make that
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 2: big mistake. It puts pressure on them. And I think
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 2: the Patriots and Belichick put pressure on other teams and
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 2: force them into mistakes in those big games, and I
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 2: think that helps you win. So you know, it's playing
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 2: good sound football, whether it's offense or defense. Puts pressure
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 2: on the other team. And I think that was a
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 2: big part of winning a lot of those games too.
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: Which is where other team making mistakes, which I hope
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 1: that the Patriots and Drake may can get to that
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 1: point now where I mean again one of my key
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 1: things for the season is Drake Killer. That's the question.
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 1: Can you execute a couple and a game drives where
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 1: games on the line, and then you start to put
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 1: that concern in other team's heads of like, look, we
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 1: got the Patriots on the ropes right now, but they
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 1: got a guy over there who is going to make
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 1: a push at the end. And there are a handful
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 1: of teams burrow in Kansas City and you know, probably
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 1: afhilly at this point that you know, teams are we
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 1: got to put this game away. We can't just let it.
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 2: Think about think about your favorite game twenty eight to
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 2: three The Falcons should have won that game, but knowing
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 2: that it was Brady on the other side of the
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 2: field and belichicked, I think forced them into making really
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 2: bad decisions when they had the ball, Like you didn't
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 2: have to throw the ball right right, you know, you
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 2: could have run the ball and won that game, and
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 2: they felt, no, we can't, we can't take the foot
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 2: off the gas, and forced them into mistakes.
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 1: I mean, another great example of you know, defense making
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 1: that play. I mean, there's like a series of plays
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 1: after a huge catch by Julio Jones on the sideline,
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 1: they kick the field goal. It's over right, you know,
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 1: sack holding penalty. I mean, like you know those things
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: were that game was hanging by a thread. Yeah, he
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 1: and Game of Inches and so it's yeah, just a
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 1: great example, every single one of those games. It took
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: a lot of different people to feed in to be
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 1: a dynasty.
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  Speaker 2: Yep, all right, foods here at least mine is. So
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  Speaker 5: Joined by eight time Entertainer of the Year Kenny Chesney
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 5: at your home away from home here at Gellette Stadium
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 5: is really your home away from home?
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 2: Yes, it is for our Patriots.
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 5: Pregame show presented by Duncan, fueled by Duncan. Thanks for
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 5: joining us, Kenny.
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  Speaker 2: Man, Thanks for having me.
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 15: It's an honor to be here.
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 5: Well, the end of the tour means Foxborough and Jellette Stadium.
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 5: How are the fans of New England so fortunate enough
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 5: to get the tour finale for all these years?
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 15: Well, there was a couple of years when we first
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 15: started playing here that it wasn't the end of the tour.
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 15: There was like three years I think where we played
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 15: earlier on in July, but there was one summer and
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 15: if you ask anybody that plays sports. They'll tell you
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 15: they're a little superstitious, you know, if they have a
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 15: great game, you know, they do the same routine or whatever.
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 15: So that particular year, we opened at Raymond James Stadium
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 15: in Tampa and we closed in Foxboro, and it was
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 15: the most magical tour of my life, right And I
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 15: told everybody, I said, we're doing it just like that
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 15: every year, and we have ever since. We've opened in
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 15: Tampa and closed in Foxborough now in the middle changes.
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 15: But we love it that way, you know, and it
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 15: has become just a huge part of our life or
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 15: part of my touring family's life. And we know that
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 15: when we get to Foxborough that we've had a long,
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 15: wonderful summer.
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 2: But it's almost like we hit a different gear when
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 2: we get here.
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 15: You know. It's it's it's it's beautiful, and we don't
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 15: take it for granted. And it's just a huge celebration
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 15: for me and my Rowed family. And I've got a
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 15: lot of friends obviously in New England, and over the
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 15: years have become really good friends with, you know a
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 15: lot of people in the Patriots organization and become family
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 15: with Robert and Jonathan.
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 5: And I think you can see that as a fan,
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 5: you know, with somebody who was here last night and
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 5: in the pit, and at the end, the appreciation that
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 5: your family has, there's there's like a little bit of relief,
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 5: like there's a little light at the.
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 2: End of the tunnel. Because it's a grueling tour, it is.
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 5: But it's a happiness and the joy that everyone seemed
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 5: to have towards the end.
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 2: It really in the audience you can feel that.
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 15: Well, it's I say it a lot. It's a lot
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 15: like the last day of school, you know what I mean.
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 15: Like you look forward to it and you're tired, and
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 15: you want it. You want it in one sense, you
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 15: want it to be over, but then again you don't
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 15: want to let it go.
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  Speaker 2: And that's where we are.
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 15: We're in this bitter sweet place, you know, walking through
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 15: the hallways here at Gillette and getting on the buses.
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 15: And look, we've been in rehearsals since February, you know,
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 15: and been together since then. And uh, we've been on
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 15: the road. We started in Tampa in the middle of April,
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 15: and so here we are, you know, and and it's
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 15: it's like anything else. It's it's you look at pictures
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 15: from then it seems like forever ago, but in your
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 15: soul it just seems like yesterday. And so it's it's bittersweet,
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 15: you know, to let it go, but to be here
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 15: and to be back. Like you said in the beginning,
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  Speaker 15: you know, Foxborough has become in a lot of ways
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 15: my second home, and and the Craft my second family
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 15: in a way. So you know, it's just just just
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 15: real special. It always is.
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 5: Let's go back maybe fifteen years ago when No New
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 5: England wasn't new to you. You were playing Sheds I'm
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 5: old enough to remember, replaced by the name of Great Woods.
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 5: Who knows what it's called this week or anything like that.
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 5: What was the impetus or why did you think, Kenny,
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 5: or how did the genesis come about? You know what,
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 5: let's tackle stadium shows this is going to be a
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 5: different barrier to break and I think we can break
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 5: through and do that.
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 15: Yeah, especially in this area. We played the Amphitheater outside
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 15: of town in Mansfield and we played that a couple
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 15: of years and you could just feel this energy bulling underneath,
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 15: you know, we could just tell that there was something
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 15: special happening in New England and everywhere we played No.
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 15: Matter if it was in the Boston area, or or
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 15: if it was in Vermont, or if it was in
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 15: Maine or wherever it was just Crazy or Rhode Island.
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 15: It was a really unique connection. And there was I
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 15: think it was two thousand and four, we did two
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 15: or three ninths at the Amphitheater down in Mansfield, and
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 15: that's when we decided, you know, the next year we
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 15: were going to try. We didn't know that we could
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 15: pull it off, but we were going to try to
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 15: do a couple of stadium shows. And that year, I
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 15: believe in two thousand and five, we played Pittsburgh, we
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 15: played DC, and we played Foxboro, and it was just
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 15: I was stunned that we were able to to you know,
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 15: to to do well. You know, we're not we didn't
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 15: do what we're doing now, but I think we were
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 15: really close to selling out the first time we ever
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 15: played Foxborough, and it just became a tradition for us,
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 15: you know. But it was a big leap of faith
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 15: on my part and Robert's part. I mean, it was
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 15: neither one of us obviously knew we were going to
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 15: become this good of friends, or we knew that we
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 15: were going to be able to sustain this love affair
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 15: if you will, for you know, I think tonight, you know,
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 15: this weekend will be our twenty second, twenty third, and
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 15: twenty fourth shows.
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  Speaker 1: Unbelievable.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, and that you're now doing three can checkative shows
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 5: at the same venue.
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 1: That's yeah.
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 2: I've never done that.
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 15: I did that one time, never in a stadium, but
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 15: we did it Red Rocks outside of Denver one year,
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 15: and that's the This is the only time we've ever
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 15: done two, and I've ever done three in a football stadium.
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 5: You mentioned some of the moments, Kenny, and You've been
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 5: involved with the Crafts in a lot of special moments
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 5: outside of the music, which is unbelievable its own sense.
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 5: His birthday parties, acoustics show, the night before the Super
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 5: Bowl in Arizona, in his suite down twenty eight to three?
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 5: Who's he hugging on the comeback? Ring ceremonies, unbelievable things.
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 2: Do you have a favorite? Well, look, the ring ceremony
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 2: was right up there.
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 8: You know, I.
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 15: Wasn't expecting that, you know, but all of it, you
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 15: know at all, when you think about all those things,
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 15: it's just, you know, Robert and I've been in each
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 15: other's lives and good times and bad times, and that's
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 15: what family is, you know, and that's what makes it
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 15: so special. And it's yes, we do business together, but
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 15: on aside from that, I mean, I feel like that
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 15: our friendship is on a completely different level than that now.
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 2: But if I have a.
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 15: Favorite, and they would be the ring ceremony for sure.
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 15: But being at the Super Bowl down twenty eight to three,
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 15: and I kept telling Robert and Jonathan they were upset
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 15: at halftime, that was a tough halftime to be in
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 15: the suite, you know what I mean exactly, so because
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 15: they wear their feelings. I mean, they care about this stuff,
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 15: you know. Obviously, if I kept telling them just wait,
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 15: just wait, just wait, and it's little by little, you know,
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 15: they just kept coming back. And I'm telling you, that
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 15: was a very That's got to be one of my
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 15: most favorite moments ever. Was that night they came back.
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 5: It's an interesting snapshot into society. Here's a kid from Tennessee, yeah,
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 5: and is now working on a twenty plus year relationship
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 5: with a billionaire football owners. Why do you think that
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 5: that relationship is endured, Kenny, because it's authentic, Honestly, We're
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 5: not friends because of money.
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 15: We're not friends. We're friends because we love sports, and
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 15: we're friends because we love music.
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 1: And now great moments in history.
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 2: We're we're chomping at the bit getting ready for the season.
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 2: Is it champing or chomping at the bit?
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 1: Eric, chumping? That's a good question, Fred, I've always heard
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 1: as chomping, but it's spelled champing, So I don't know.
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 1: I really don't know which one is accurate. I think
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 1: I did not know that.
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 14: Is it butt naked or buck naked?
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 2: I've always it's a good one. I think I'm looking
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 2: at you with a light stare because that's a great one.
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 1: I think it's bottled me. Isn't it naked? Isn't it buck?
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 15: So?
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 2: Who's a buck naked?
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 2: A dear is naked, and you're like a buck naked?
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 10: Make more sense?
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  Speaker 1: It was this is this is a whole topic.
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  Speaker 2: I have it right now there.
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  Speaker 1: While both buck naked and butt naked are used to
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  Speaker 1: describe someone who is fully nude, buck naked is the
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  Speaker 1: older of the pair. Buck naked naked?
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  Speaker 2: But what about the champion and the chopping.
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  Speaker 1: That's another great moment.
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  Speaker 2: All right back here and Patriots Unfiltered. It's Deuce, Alex,
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  Speaker 2: Fred Matt and the booth for an off season edition
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  Speaker 2: here Thursday at Gillette Stadium. Getting a lot of calls,
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  Speaker 2: a lot of emails, thank you for listening. Even though
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 2: we're in the dog days of the NFL. Uh, they're
• 1:15:44
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  Speaker 1: That reminded me Fred. We had a little email back
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  Speaker 1: and forth about flesh it out and flesh it out.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and that's sending to my phone to search
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  Speaker 1: and I actually that easy.
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  Speaker 2: You know, when you flush something out, you put meat
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 2: to the bones, you give it substance. When you flush
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 2: it out, you get rid of it. So it's two
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 2: completely different things.
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  Speaker 1: I had to look at it, though. I was a
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 1: little bit I'm a little bit a little bit of
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 1: pushback on that because it was, like I said, like
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 1: I had an idea for a while that I finally
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  Speaker 1: flushed out correct usage and that was what it was.
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  Speaker 1: So I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: That's another one that always confused me, is like it'll
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  Speaker 4: tide me over. I always said it was timey over,
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  Speaker 4: like I'll have a little snack to Timey over.
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  Speaker 1: I've always been yes, yes, yeah, nuance of language. We
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  Speaker 1: do all right.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, what's going on out there? There's like a
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 2: lot of laughing and not no no no no no
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 2: no no like that. I'm just I'm just wondering what
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 2: I'm missing.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, here's a good time going on.
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 1: Pretty good. Is just like say a marine's name and
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 1: then he just was held up a knife right.
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  Speaker 2: No, no, just people having a good time.
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 1: I just want to know what's going on? Game?
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  Speaker 2: So why I take six two six? Oh? No, wonder
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 2: it was so fast quick?
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  Speaker 1: Did anybody go to the messy game last night?
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 4: No?
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 2: No, no, no, had a couple Yeah.
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 1: Well id you worked a couple of goals?
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 3: I went last year.
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 1: Carlos Heel score. Yeah, he's really good.
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 2: I like Carlos Heel. He's he's really really good. I
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 2: don't I don't think people like outside of REVS fan
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 2: understand how good he is. He's tell the people, let's
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 2: see who is this? This is justin. My question is
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 2: how much of a concern, if any, is there for
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 2: McDaniels not calling enough plays to feed Diggs. With his
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 2: past history in Buffalo about wanting more targets and McDaniel's
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 2: having a stigma than on any given game anyone can
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 2: produce below average numbers, do you have any concern that
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 2: there will be tension there? That's justin from Chicago. We'll
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 2: talk about that in a second. But he says also,
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 2: so I appreciate the off cities and topics to get
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 2: me through the workdays. So to help you out, would
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 2: you rather always have to sing instead of speak or dance.
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 1: Everywhere you walk sing? I'd take the opportunity to sing
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 1: all the time.
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 2: So instead of speaking, everything you say is a song,
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 2: or you dance everywhere you walk.
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 1: I could do tough.
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 3: I could do either.
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I'd rather do the dancing. About both,
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 2: I think it was getting annoying to everyone around.
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 1: Annoying.
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 2: It's like, goes, can he just say it? Does he
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 2: have to sing it?
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 1: In response to the craft that I just you know,
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 1: point out DeVante Adams had fifteen hundred yards and fourteen
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 1: touchdowns under Josh, so you know he's a number one
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 1: receiver who was very productive with him. So I get
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 1: the concern, though, you want to keep stuff happy and
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 1: you know, but again when him talking about getting open,
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 1: getting my other teammates open and being part of the system,
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 1: and it wasn't just you know, the end, He's like,
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 1: I can get open when on YouTube, but it's you know,
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 1: well my teammates as well. That's thats the stuff like,
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 1: but hey, welcome to diva receiver. We got to make sure.
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 2: Would you rather be trapped in a horror movie or
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 2: a zombie apocalypse? Zombie apocalypse, You'd rather be trapped in
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 2: a zombie horror movie.
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 3: Those people in horror movies are so stupid.
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah, he'd be smart.
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 4: He'd be like, I'd be way smarter than them, because
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 4: I'm way smarter than them when I'm watching the movie.
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 1: No, the biggest thing that concerns me about a zombie
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 1: apocalypse is I wear contacts, and I'm like, that's that's
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 1: gonna get dicey pretty quick. If I can't get contact
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 1: lens solution.
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 3: Well, maybe.
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 4: Maybe they would want Like did you see World War
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 4: Z with Brad Pitt and the zombies skip over people
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 4: who are ill, but they're ill or have some ailment,
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 4: so they're like, we don't need you and our army
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 4: of zombies.
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 1: I think our culture is generally obsessed with like, wouldn't
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 1: it be cool if I just was like living off
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 1: a Kansas soup with my gun in my basement? Like
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 1: there's a many people who just like have that fantasy.
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 2: And if it ever did happen, they poop their pants.
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 1: Like the whole like prepper subculture.
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 3: Of youday preppers.
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, got all kinds survivalists, survivalists, and they're just waiting
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 1: for that. It'll be great when we can finally just
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 1: live in the woods and have to hunt animals, and
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 1: really would be great. I thought that we ever see
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 1: the movie The Road, which was a book by by
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 1: Cornick McCarthy. Yeah, I forget perdition.
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 2: The Road is just like a father and a son
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 2: for me, halfway up his driveway, his house is on
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 2: a hill. He just put in this like iron swing gate,
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 2: Like why, like.
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 3: This is my thing? Does he have a fence in
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 3: his yard?
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 4: That's it's my pet peeve When people put in these
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 4: huge driveway gates but they don't have a complete fence,
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 4: It's like what are you keeping out?
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 2: Like yeah, like what's going on up there that you
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 2: don't want cars driving up?
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 1: You know? It's got to be status no no.
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 2: But it's not even like a good you know, like
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 2: a wrought iron, a nice fence, gargoyles. It's just like
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 2: a something you'd see in a farm. It's just a
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 2: metal thing that swings in locks. Halfway up his driveway.
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 2: It doesn't even look nice, So like it's it's obviously
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 2: there to keep people from getting close to the house. Yeah,
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 2: so why like, what are you doing making meth in
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 2: your basement or something? You know?
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 1: Apocalypse He wants to keep the curses are gonna run
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 1: and they're gonna come here, buddy.
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's weird, all right, hotline, Nelson's in LA.
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 1: What's up?
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 2: Nelson?
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 9: Up?
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 2: He was in La. Now he's gone.
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 1: Uh.
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 2: Emory's in Virginia. Hey, Emory, Emory.
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 1: Wow?
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 2: Oh wow? Two calls to uh okay.
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 1: I thought I was calling falgaram Mass.
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 2: Curtis and Saint Louis writes in says there's been a
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 2: lot of talk recently on what would justify a successful season,
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 2: whether it be wins or making the playoffs. A successful
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 2: twenty twenty five, in my eyes, comes down to two things.
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 2: Does May take the next big lead, and, like Rabel said,
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 2: playing competent football, not only taking advantage of bad football,
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 2: but also not making those bad football plays. That being said,
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 2: I have a couple questions. One, in your eyes, what
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 2: does May need to do this season to show he's
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 2: a franchise caliber quarterback?
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 1: Cut down turnovers and win games when they're closed at.
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 2: These ends, I you took the words out in my
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 2: mouth on crunch time. What do you got? What do
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 2: you got?
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 1: I think a better question might be, or maybe a
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 1: more interesting question is, like is there a successful season
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 1: for Mike Frable that doesn't involve Drake May having a
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 1: successful So, like, if Drake May is not good, like
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 1: if he's just I mean, it's hard to say he's bad,
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 1: but if he's just okay and kind of up and down,
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 1: is there a way I don't see it? Well, Like,
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 1: I think it's so much is tied to the quarterback.
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 4: If the operation around him, if everyone really knows what
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 4: they're doing, and the defense is really fine considering.
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 2: That surgeons May wasn't his pick. I mean, if Drake
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 2: May doesn't have a good season, but everything else is
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 2: where O line is playing well, you.
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 1: Know, then like.
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 2: And you're like to me, you know, that's a nightmare
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 2: for all a lot of us because now it's like
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 2: we got everything else going now we're still looking for
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 2: a quarterback. I can't see that being you know.
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And that goes back to us being in fantasyland
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 1: right now, where you're like, Drake May still might be
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 1: the best quarterback of all time. We don't know, you know, like,
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 1: but once you start getting reality, do you lose that
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 1: belief of that he might be the guy? And it's
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 1: just that's the worst place to be I think as
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 1: a fan base is to not believe that your quarterback
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 1: could be the guy. I think there are a lot
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 1: of fans out there that are kind of fooling themselves
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 1: maybe a little bit.
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 2: The second question he has is where are you with
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 2: the signing dilemma going on with basically all of the
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 2: second round picks. Ultimately, do you think the players will
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 2: get fully guaranteed contracts? And should the Patriots get ahead
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 2: of this thing and just sign Henderson to a fully
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 2: guaranteed contract so there are no distractions going to training? Kip,
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 2: is that the whole up?
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 4: I think the Texans and another team kind of not
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 4: set that precedent, but did it with their guys. So
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 4: now the agents of these second rounders are just trying
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 4: to use that as leverage.
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 3: That's to my understanding.
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 2: I thought they were slotted.
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I honestly don't put much time to
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 1: thought into like this. My money not pro to just
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 1: like work out with the contract signing in the past
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 1: before the slotting stuff. It was a little bit more
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 1: tenuous when the signings weren't happening, But I know that,
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 1: like you said, there are some different deal points now
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 1: that are becoming precedent that are complicating some of these decisions.
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 1: But ultimately I'm not really too concerned. I think that
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 1: they'll everything will be figured out by training camp.
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 2: Jake and Bedford writes in What's Up Crew? Did you
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 2: catch Joe Mizzula On Edelman's podcast.
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 1: Not Yet a little Bit? Did you? Community?
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 2: He mentioned in one of his old chats with Belichick
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 2: that Bill would bring in special operatives before the season
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 2: to speak to the team. Edelman said he would learn
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 2: cool tricks during these sessions, just as tactical hand maneuvers.
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 2: Do you think Vrabel will bring in any guests like this.
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 2: I think a lot of coaches do that. Yeah, I
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 2: know why Bill's brought in like Navy seals and things
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 2: like that.
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, And it's always part of the lots of
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 1: stuff I love, like the coaching, pulling out going to
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 1: this movie or building activities, those kind of things. Try
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 1: to get guys speakers on this.
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 4: I think Bill brought in Ryan Holiday too, the author
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 4: he wrote a lot of books on just like the Stoics,
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 4: and I.
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 1: Think he helped Bill.
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 4: Was it Robert Green who wrote forty eight Laws of Power?
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 4: So Ryan Holiday was his like researcher intern or whatever,
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 4: and he brought him.
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 1: In, which, by the way, quick recommendation, there's a documentary
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  Speaker 1: out there right now about American apparel and like excellent
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  Speaker 1: guy who was way into the forty eight Laws of
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 1: Power and ran that whole business by that and basically
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 1: terrorized everyone who worked for him.
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 2: PS Bazula also let slip that some Patriots players opted
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 2: into try out getting waterboarded. I was like, Yeah, which
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 2: PU member do you think would be tough enough for that?
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 2: I think my guy Paul would fare the best.
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 1: That's tough man. Who do you think would be best
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 1: equipped to deal with drowning? Yeah?
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 2: And PPS, when can we stop taking calls from Todd?
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 2: Can we try waterboarding him?
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 1: My god will be waterboarded? That is interesting though, That's
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 1: like guys were signing up to see what that was like.
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but is that one.
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 1: Who wants to be boarded? Coach?
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 11: Just nothing?
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 2: Have you done it? Really?
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 15: All?
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 2: Right?
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 3: I volunteer Matt then? I think Matt would be most.
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 2: Like, so basically you have to just like understand that, Yeah,
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna have water up my nose, and don't freak out.
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 2: You don't freak out. Yeah it might feel weird, but
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 2: don't freak out in an.
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 7: Actual waterboarding torture situation to keep them mentalities crazy.
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 1: But if you do it with your friends, you're.
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 3: With your friends friends, Matt, My friends aren't professionals.
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 1: So we were just water boardering and Shohnny just died.
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 1: So what is it like they put your side down
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 1: with a wet towel or.
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 3: Your face dump of five gallons?
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we could do it.
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 2: You're a little bit slanted back though, right. Your head's
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 2: a little bit lower than your feet, Is that right
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 2: or not?
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 1: That's probably.
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 2: Okay. On a picnic table, if you rolls over, you
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 2: got into the mashed potatoes.
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 1: This is where we eat. This is where we get waterboarded.
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 2: Potato salads over here, waterboards over here.
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 3: You think we'd get flagged on YouTube if we tried
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 3: to do.
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 2: That waterboarding each other in the studio, it would be
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 2: a mess.
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 8: I'll do it.
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 2: I'll try it, sure, allright.
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 1: Evan, He'll be like, be like, I want to get
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 1: now if.
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 2: You waterboarded, Paul would diet pepsi. He would just take
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 2: it in. It would be like, yeah, like heaven, are
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 2: going to put it up my nose, put it up
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 2: my ass, it doesn't matter, it's diet pepsi. I'll take
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 2: it any whole I can get.
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the first time I saw Paul snort diapepsy, it
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 1: was a little disconcerted.
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was weird.
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 1: That's how he likes it.
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, yeah, he's an ivy at home. He has
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 2: he has the clicker in one hand. He's got the ivy.
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 3: He dehydrates it into little tablets. Snort, crush up.
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, just kidding. Oh boy. Justin writes, and even if
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 2: it's the dog days of the NFL Patriots, Unfiltered is
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  Speaker 2: by far and away the best sports podcast and just
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  Speaker 2: this best sports media in general. Wow, that's really nice.
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 1: Thanks Justin.
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 2: Your T shirts on the way, have we created new
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 2: T shirts yet? What's going on with T shirts?
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  Speaker 14: I've been setting out found a box upstairs, So I've
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 14: been setting about people who.
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 2: Oh, he found a box, But I want to make
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  Speaker 2: new ones that are higher quality.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know where we're at with that.
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 2: That's about okay, so we'll send Matisa an email just
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 2: say Fred said, we want to make.
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 1: More T shirts, probably about six.
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  Speaker 2: Everyone has a great array of opinions and personalities. All
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 2: of you are unique and fun to listen to. I'm
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 2: always looking forward to every Tuesday and Thursday because I
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 2: know the PU crew is going to drop another great episode.
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  Speaker 2: Oh that's really.
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  Speaker 1: Nice, very nice. I really appreciate it.
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  Speaker 2: And of course for those of you who are new
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 2: to the show during the season it's Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday.
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  Speaker 1: I really appreciate people thanking us, though, I mean, it
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 1: feels a little strange at times because I love what
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 1: I do and I love talking Patriots football and nonsense
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 1: is a probably my favorite thing, and it's always stranger
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 1: and people are like, thank you so much for you do.
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 1: I'm like, I thank you, Like I love what I do,
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 1: so it's great that people like joy.
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  Speaker 2: I had the AC guy, like I said, last week
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  Speaker 2: or two weeks ago, and he was when he was done,
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 2: he was like, yeah, just so you know, I listen
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  Speaker 2: all the time. You guys do great and like, you know,
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  Speaker 2: I'm genuinely like, really, wow, thanks, you know that'll never
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 2: like become new to me, I mean become old to me.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's it's cool. Appreciate it. I'm glad people
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 1: take enjoyment from it, because yeah, enjoyable to produce.
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  Speaker 2: Jeff and Canada, do we know anything about vrabel stance
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 2: on starting? People are playing starters in the preseason some teams.
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 2: It's not hard at all in the past where you
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 2: used to at least a few quarters of starters. What
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 2: are your thoughts?
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 1: That's a great question. Actually, that that makes me want
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 1: to go look at Tennessee and how I handled it there.
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 1: I still think ever since we've gone back to three
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 1: preseason games, there isn't an established it's ad dress rehearsal.
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 1: Remember that, like the therapy, it's a dress rehearsal. And
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 1: then the fourth game was always a trash like throwaway,
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 1: just the guy. Maybe one or two guys might have
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 1: a chance to make the team off of that. But
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 1: there's no real established a neadance to the preseason games.
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 1: Now it's it's right, what do you want to do?
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 1: What do you need to work on?
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 2: It's yeah, what's the state of your team? Are you're
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 2: breaking in a new quarterback? How young? How old is
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 2: your team? Coaching staff. There's so many variables that change
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 2: it when you only have three, and we know eventually
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 2: it's only going to be two. So then these joint practices,
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 2: the importance of joint practice, are going to really.
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 1: Ratchet up good barometer. The joint practices. Yeah, you watch,
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 1: You could watch training camp for just the Patriots practice
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 1: all summer. You come out of it. I think that
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 1: was twenty twenty. I have no idea, no idea what
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 1: this team is. But with joint practices, I think you
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 1: get a little bit of the sense.
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  Speaker 2: Emory's back on the line in Virginia. What's up, Emory Emory? Okay,
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 2: this is oh for two? Okay, Well that's that's poor
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 2: to me. Sean's and Vancouver. Hey Sean, Hi, Fred, Mike,
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  Speaker 2: Hey Sean, Alex.
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  Speaker 11: Great to hear you all. I love this show. I
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 11: agree with everyone who wrote in. I just have one
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  Speaker 11: question about that though. Is there room for all five
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 11: of you in the studio, because I, you know, I
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 11: don't really see that happening. There's always like someone not there.
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  Speaker 2: No, it's not all No, there's there's five spaces. But
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 2: it's summer. People take time off.
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  Speaker 11: Oh no, no, yeah, yea. But during the regular season.
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  Speaker 11: Alex would love to see it come in more.
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  Speaker 3: I think it's set up. It depends what's set up.
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  Speaker 2: We have have five with the desk, we can do
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  Speaker 2: five with the seats is four. I think we're going
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  Speaker 2: to stick with the desk for now. Yeah, we've been
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  Speaker 2: bringing play yeah right, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I'll come in more during the season.
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  Speaker 11: For you, Sean, thank you, I appreciate you. I've been
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 11: thinking about this quite a bit, people predicting games for
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 11: the season, and I came across a website today that
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  Speaker 11: really had me impressed with the way they did it.
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 11: It's called Past Godmother, and they broke down the schedule
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 11: in terms of path uh and and the different ways
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  Speaker 11: they broke it down is one group is have to win,
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  Speaker 11: so it's like six games they consider have to win
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 11: games the ones that they feel really good about. Next
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 11: group is should win but won't be easy. Third group
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 11: is should lose but not surprise, the paths win, and
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  Speaker 11: the last one with four games is already penciled in.
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  Speaker 11: There's a low need a fluke to win that one.
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  Speaker 11: And that's I think it was really good way to
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  Speaker 11: look at it, because there's ways to set up expectations
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 11: in terms of the schedule and how you're going to
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 11: feel about each game, and if you win one of
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 11: these already pencil and loss, like you can have a
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 11: big celebration like, Wow, we beat the Ravens. It's amazing.
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 11: So I'll leave you with that.
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  Speaker 2: Well, did you do it with the Patriots?
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  Speaker 1: How did I pulled the schedule up right here? Right now?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah?
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  Speaker 11: Yeah, you know this website it's it's all about the Patriots.
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  Speaker 2: Did you do it? What did we come out as?
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  Speaker 15: No?
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  Speaker 11: I agree completely with them, like the way they have
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  Speaker 11: it in terms of like, no.
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  Speaker 2: I understand, I understand how they divvt it up, but
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 2: what did they come up with as the record for
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 2: the Patriots?
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  Speaker 11: Well, they don't even have an actual record. They say
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 11: this is a road map to ten wins for a
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 11: playoff berth, So they don't even give their fact that
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  Speaker 11: because this is what we think will happen. This is
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  Speaker 11: like this is but we break it down as.
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  Speaker 10: A way to get it.
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  Speaker 11: And I agree with that. Like I can't predict the future.
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 11: There's so many things are gonna happen, like injuries and
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 11: with the way things go for other teams, But just
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 11: a way to think about it beforehand. This is a
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 11: good way to set your expectations.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, all right, thanks Sean. I expect to win every game.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know about you guys, but I don't win
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 2: every game thinking we're gonna win.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean at Cincinnati, not throwing you know, throwing
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 1: last year's result out of there. At Baltimore and at Buffalo,
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 1: like those three seem like those are gonna be tough.
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 1: They's gonna be tough to get wins on the road
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 1: against those teams. Us year's Patriots team did it, so
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  Speaker 1: it's not imposible.
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  Speaker 2: If you're gonna win ten games, you're probably gonna have
• 1:35:38
  Speaker 2: to win a couple of games you're not supposed to.
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  Speaker 1: I mean the rest of them are all just feel
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 1: like wars. I mean that's how I kind of It's
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 1: like those three games probably tough to win. The other
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 1: fourteen flip of a coin battle, you know, knowing nothing
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  Speaker 1: about these teams, but the Raiders, I mean, at Miami,
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 1: they've got some questions this year. Pittsburgh's remade talent's no question.
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 1: But Carolina, Atlanta, Cleveland, I mean, these are all teams
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 1: that are in the Patriots seem genre of trying to
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 1: get on the upswing. So this is where you prove it.
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 1: You beat the other bad teams, and then you get
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 1: that second or first place schedule and then you start
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 1: to play the good teams and you get back into
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 1: that mix of But this is you know, a little
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 1: bit of like a relegation year, you know, or you
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 1: gotta play the fourth play schedule, so you gotta you
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 1: gotta win a lot of games this year. Take advantage
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  Speaker 1: of it.
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 2: Damon's in Maryland? What's up? Damon again?
• 1:36:25
  Speaker 4: Going?
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  Speaker 10: So two quick questions.
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 9: My first question is do you remember your first sports
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 9: heartbreak as a fan?
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  Speaker 16: I think of the two thousand and five SIS in
• 1:36:38
  Speaker 16: Divisional against the Broncos.
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  Speaker 1: Oh great game, great game, great call.
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  Speaker 16: It was on my birthday and just devastated, not want
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 16: to go to school at all.
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  Speaker 9: My dad is a Ravens fan and he still made me.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 9: And then my my.
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  Speaker 16: Next question is for a training camp, I will admit
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 16: I nerd out just as much of out seeing like
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 16: the Pats social media staff and you guys there as
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 16: I do with the players. Is there gonna be a
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 16: bluth or of chances to like to chat with you guys?
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 16: Get autographs, take pictures of that nature.
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  Speaker 2: During camp training camp.
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, possibly, yeah, yeah, I'm always down there.
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 2: We'll be around.
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 1: Just give me a shout out. Sometimes I go down
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 1: there with T shirts. So if you see me walking around,
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 1: just yellow deuce. I just want to make sure I
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 1: get int the p U fans though, because like, once
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 1: people see you have some swag, they don't care.
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 2: That, they don't care. What want to be dirty socks.
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 2: It's free, I'll take it. We'll be around, so you know,
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 2: always good idea email us before you come and so
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 2: we know you're around.
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 1: And yeah, yeah, yep say. I was just gonna say,
• 1:37:45
  Speaker 1: response to your question of losses, that five Denver game
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 1: is a great one. Now we'll like spurred my whole
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 1: Patriots obsessions. Well, oh no, there's a clock on this.
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 2: My first sports heartbreak was Muhammed Eli losing to Joe
• 1:37:56
  Speaker 2: Fray really in their first bout. So you know, you
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 2: couldn't watch it on TV back then because they had
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 2: what they call close circuit TV, and you know you
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 2: couldn't watch it. But on the radio there was the
• 1:38:07
  Speaker 2: station that after every round, the guy was giving his
• 1:38:10
  Speaker 2: synopsis and I remember like just you know, glued to
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 2: the radio listening to this and uh and it was late.
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 2: It's late because I think the I forget where the
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 2: fight was, but it was, you know, late at night,
• 1:38:25
  Speaker 2: and it looked like Ali was gonna win just from
• 1:38:28
  Speaker 2: this guy's synopsis. And then you know, he you know,
• 1:38:31
  Speaker 2: Fraser knocked him down. I think he broke his jaw,
• 1:38:33
  Speaker 2: you know, so you never know, and then Fraser got
• 1:38:35
  Speaker 2: the decision.
• 1:38:36
  Speaker 1: I was just devastated.
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 2: I was just.
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 1: Devastat what an interesting way to watch a sporting or
• 1:38:40
  Speaker 1: listening listening to it, And what would he be doing
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 1: while the fight was going on.
• 1:38:44
  Speaker 2: You couldn't, he couldn't. So they'd go back to regular
• 1:38:46
  Speaker 2: program and then after the round he would give his
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 2: his scenomais and I was just you know, every word
• 1:38:55
  Speaker 2: he said I was glued to. And then Ali lost
• 1:38:57
  Speaker 2: and I was just devastated.
• 1:38:59
  Speaker 1: The Ruins losses in the Stanley Cup finals, I think
• 1:39:02
  Speaker 1: it was eighty eight ninety those those really those really
• 1:39:05
  Speaker 1: hurt me. Remember the Patriots losing in the in the
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 1: playoffs to the Browns. That that one I clearly remember
• 1:39:11
  Speaker 1: being being disappointed at. But yeah, that Denver game, I'm
• 1:39:15
  Speaker 1: right with them. That one, Like, I don't think I
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 1: would be sitting here right now without that Denver loss,
• 1:39:18
  Speaker 1: because that was like, that's just what spurred me to
• 1:39:20
  Speaker 1: action of like, there's a limited amount of time with
• 1:39:22
  Speaker 1: Belichick and Brady. How many can they get? And what
• 1:39:25
  Speaker 1: does this defensive genius thing mean? And you know, it
• 1:39:27
  Speaker 1: just opened up a whole book that I wanted to read.
• 1:39:30
  Speaker 2: Essentially, Yeah, I mean, obviously seven is the origin. That's
• 1:39:35
  Speaker 2: the worst.
• 1:39:37
  Speaker 4: I still remember the aim away message I wrote after
• 1:39:39
  Speaker 4: that game.
• 1:39:40
  Speaker 2: But prior to that, the eighty six Mets loss, I mean,
• 1:39:43
  Speaker 2: Red Sox loss to the Mets in the World Series
• 1:39:45
  Speaker 2: was just ridiculously bad. You know, they could have they
• 1:39:50
  Speaker 2: should have won it in the sixth game, and when
• 1:39:53
  Speaker 2: they didn't, I did a I made a sign and
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 2: I put it out on commab. I said, I said,
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 2: I forget what it was, but if there's justice, if
• 1:40:02
  Speaker 2: there's justice on earth, in a god in heaven, the
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 2: Red Sox will win the series in seven. So I
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 2: put that sign out in commab. I was so convinced,
• 1:40:09
  Speaker 2: all right, they're gonna win this thing and they didn't
• 1:40:11
  Speaker 2: win it. I was so mad.
• 1:40:13
  Speaker 1: Did you hear people like conquent your sign and like
• 1:40:15
  Speaker 1: support the stuf.
• 1:40:16
  Speaker 2: Well, I just left it there. I didn't.
• 1:40:17
  Speaker 1: I didn't stand, I didn't forget it walk away. I
• 1:40:19
  Speaker 1: didn't stan sending a message to the fans, right, I
• 1:40:21
  Speaker 1: know it'll be received. I don't need to right sit
• 1:40:24
  Speaker 1: around and watch it.
• 1:40:25
  Speaker 2: But just that was bad. You know, I was at
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 2: Denver Broncos fan, so I had a lot of heartbreak
• 1:40:31
  Speaker 2: in those Super Bowls.
• 1:40:34
  Speaker 1: I mean O seven to twenty fourteen. I mean, I
• 1:40:37
  Speaker 1: guess I say two thousand and four to twenty fourteen.
• 1:40:40
  Speaker 1: That's ten years of every one of those last Patriot losses.
• 1:40:44
  Speaker 1: Was was devastating and heartbreaking, and you know in different ways.
• 1:40:47
  Speaker 2: The eighty five NBA Playoffs when Magic hit that little
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 2: hook over the middle to end the game, that was
• 1:40:57
  Speaker 2: that that killed me. That was a tough one.
• 1:41:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:41:01
  Speaker 2: So better to have been there and lost than never
• 1:41:04
  Speaker 2: to have been there at all.
• 1:41:05
  Speaker 1: Right, see, I'm Paul here to chime in about Northeastern laws.
• 1:41:09
  Speaker 2: Oh well, yeah, I mean, his his thing started when
• 1:41:13
  Speaker 2: he couldn't get into Northeastern, right, he had no It's
• 1:41:16
  Speaker 2: not that he couldn't get in, but like bu was
• 1:41:19
  Speaker 2: the only one that would give him money or something
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 2: like that for to play baseball, so he chose to
• 1:41:24
  Speaker 2: be regrets it to this day. Eric regrets not getting
• 1:41:28
  Speaker 2: into Brown.
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 1: That's that that had to hit.
• 1:41:31
  Speaker 2: I couldn't believe I got into any school, so I
• 1:41:33
  Speaker 2: didn't care.
• 1:41:34
  Speaker 3: It's happy to be there.
• 1:41:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Jeffson, California. What's up?
• 1:41:38
  Speaker 10: Jeff Hey, how are you doing? But you have to
• 1:41:42
  Speaker 10: take my call. So I've been a fan of the
• 1:41:46
  Speaker 10: Patriots since the mid seventies since can you hear me?
• 1:41:52
  Speaker 2: Yes, you've been a fan of the Patriots since the
• 1:41:54
  Speaker 2: mid seventies.
• 1:41:55
  Speaker 10: Yeah, Steve Grogan my favorite player, and Jim it's my
• 1:42:00
  Speaker 10: favorite number is fourteen. Cool, and we've had so many
• 1:42:07
  Speaker 10: bad years back then. But yes, I just could not
• 1:42:10
  Speaker 10: go through the McPherson year.
• 1:42:13
  Speaker 2: Okay as a.
• 1:42:14
  Speaker 10: Coach, but last year was the worst. I thought Mayo
• 1:42:18
  Speaker 10: was so far over his head. Every time I listened
• 1:42:21
  Speaker 10: to a press conference, he did not know what he
• 1:42:24
  Speaker 10: was doing. And I don't really want to just, you know,
• 1:42:27
  Speaker 10: bail on him. But two questions I had, what do
• 1:42:31
  Speaker 10: you think the realistic chances of Diggs making the roster?
• 1:42:36
  Speaker 10: Another one is, has either Evan or bart ever been
• 1:42:40
  Speaker 10: considered for a scouting position. In the front office or
• 1:42:46
  Speaker 10: even maybe a consultant.
• 1:42:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, as far as I know, the answer to the
• 1:42:49
  Speaker 2: second question is no.
• 1:42:51
  Speaker 10: You know, with all the issues Bigie has always had
• 1:42:54
  Speaker 10: everywhere he's gone, I think the pictriots got the did
• 1:43:00
  Speaker 10: just who the pictures thought he was, and they let
• 1:43:02
  Speaker 10: him off the hook.
• 1:43:06
  Speaker 1: Who's he talking about with Diggs? He said.
• 1:43:10
  Speaker 2: They let him off the hook when because of the
• 1:43:12
  Speaker 2: boat thing or what are you talking about?
• 1:43:14
  Speaker 10: Well, because of the substance. Substance.
• 1:43:17
  Speaker 2: Oh, I don't know what happened behind the scenes there,
• 1:43:20
  Speaker 2: so apparently you know that was dealt with internally. So
• 1:43:25
  Speaker 2: I don't know if they let him off the hook
• 1:43:27
  Speaker 2: or not. But thanks for the call, Jeff. I mean,
• 1:43:30
  Speaker 2: right now he's working out with Drake May and saying
• 1:43:33
  Speaker 2: all the right, that's all I care about. I don't
• 1:43:35
  Speaker 2: care what he does on a boat. I care what
• 1:43:37
  Speaker 2: he does when he's here in Foxborough and on the
• 1:43:40
  Speaker 2: playing field, and if he does well there, I don't
• 1:43:43
  Speaker 2: I don't care what he's doing.
• 1:43:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the bottom line is can he help Drake May
• 1:43:47
  Speaker 1: get to the next level? And that's what we talked
• 1:43:50
  Speaker 1: about plenty over the last couple of years. As you
• 1:43:52
  Speaker 1: need to put talent around these young quarterbacks, and I
• 1:43:55
  Speaker 1: think he's doing all the right things. I like, I
• 1:43:57
  Speaker 1: get it. But you're right, Fred, I mean I think
• 1:43:59
  Speaker 1: that that's going to be long forgotten.
• 1:44:01
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 1:44:01
  Speaker 2: I don't want them to you know, commit crimes or
• 1:44:03
  Speaker 2: you know, hurt people. Obviously, we're not going to tolerate that.
• 1:44:07
  Speaker 2: But yeah, all right, Uh, Mike's in New Jersey.
• 1:44:12
  Speaker 1: What's up?
• 1:44:13
  Speaker 2: You gotta sub Mike? Mike is that your name? I
• 1:44:25
  Speaker 2: can't hear you talking to the phone kind of okay, Mike,
• 1:44:32
  Speaker 2: all right, we're gonna move on. We're gonna move on.
• 1:44:37
  Speaker 2: Let's see George rights in. I think you guys are
• 1:44:41
  Speaker 2: doing a lot of great work. Thank you. I'll be
• 1:44:44
  Speaker 2: coming up to Jillette Stadium to see training camp. Will
• 1:44:46
  Speaker 2: players be signing merch? There are? There are players signing
• 1:44:50
  Speaker 2: after every practice, but position, if you're an adult, it
• 1:44:56
  Speaker 2: might be a little harder. I think the players get
• 1:44:59
  Speaker 2: prefer reference to the kids. Yeah first, but.
• 1:45:02
  Speaker 1: But I'm sure Paul and I will sign autographs for
• 1:45:04
  Speaker 1: you if that does anything for you.
• 1:45:07
  Speaker 2: What should I be looking for in the players?
• 1:45:10
  Speaker 1: Ah, well, it depends on the day. Yeah, if you
• 1:45:13
  Speaker 1: go up early on probably not a lot to really
• 1:45:17
  Speaker 1: walk away and say this is what this team is
• 1:45:19
  Speaker 1: going to be. But guys knowing where to be lining
• 1:45:22
  Speaker 1: up in the right spot, the intensity of practice where
• 1:45:24
  Speaker 1: Mike Rabel lines up kind of just keep an eye
• 1:45:27
  Speaker 1: on him. That's usually fun to see what position groups
• 1:45:30
  Speaker 1: he's popping in with. And then get to the one
• 1:45:32
  Speaker 1: on one stuff That can be a little bit fun,
• 1:45:33
  Speaker 1: but you know, just you can't overreact to any of
• 1:45:35
  Speaker 1: these drills. And like I said on Tuesday, the one
• 1:45:39
  Speaker 1: on ones and all that stuff, it gets a lot
• 1:45:40
  Speaker 1: of attention, but at the same time, it's training camp,
• 1:45:44
  Speaker 1: it's practice. They're trying to get better, they're trying to
• 1:45:46
  Speaker 1: do things they're uncomfortable with, so not everything's gonna be
• 1:45:49
  Speaker 1: gonna be clicking. But one more thing I was going
• 1:45:51
  Speaker 1: to say too earlier, was I thought it was interesting
• 1:45:52
  Speaker 1: Vrabel said during this during this spring and it goes
• 1:45:57
  Speaker 1: without saying, but I just to hear him explicitly say likequarterback,
• 1:46:00
  Speaker 1: so let you know who they like, because that's who
• 1:46:01
  Speaker 1: they throw the ball to a lot. So as much
• 1:46:04
  Speaker 1: as you know, sometimes we rail on people who keep
• 1:46:06
  Speaker 1: stats at practice, which you add it all up and
• 1:46:09
  Speaker 1: it's tough to get the true meaning of it. But
• 1:46:11
  Speaker 1: I do think that there is value when you look
• 1:46:13
  Speaker 1: at the number of targets that a certain player has
• 1:46:15
  Speaker 1: during team portions of drills. So those kind of things
• 1:46:18
  Speaker 1: good to keep an eye on. And then once you
• 1:46:20
  Speaker 1: get to joint practices, there's plenty to watch. I mean,
• 1:46:23
  Speaker 1: take your pick. I mean you have one on ones
• 1:46:25
  Speaker 1: going here for the defensive and offensive line. You've got
• 1:46:28
  Speaker 1: cornerbacks and wide receivers. You've got linebackers going against running
• 1:46:30
  Speaker 1: backs and tight ends. It's just a pot pirie of
• 1:46:33
  Speaker 1: football things to watch. So that's why the joint practice
• 1:46:36
  Speaker 1: is such a great take because there's just no matter
• 1:46:38
  Speaker 1: where you're sitting, there's going to be something going on
• 1:46:40
  Speaker 1: close to you. And especially with these two teams are
• 1:46:43
  Speaker 1: going to be practicing against, although Minnesota will be in Minnesota,
• 1:46:46
  Speaker 1: but talent all over the field really fun.
• 1:46:49
  Speaker 2: Let's see Danna Rhode Island has a over and under. Okay, ready,
• 1:46:57
  Speaker 2: let's see Drake may over under forty two hundred passing
• 1:47:01
  Speaker 2: and rushing yards so combined, Yah.
• 1:47:04
  Speaker 1: That's a lot. I don't m like go on here,
• 1:47:07
  Speaker 1: like go on here?
• 1:47:08
  Speaker 2: So how many how many rushing yards do you think
• 1:47:10
  Speaker 2: you'll have.
• 1:47:12
  Speaker 1: Enough.
• 1:47:13
  Speaker 2: Do you think it's more than three hundred.
• 1:47:16
  Speaker 1: No, that's probably like a decent number, I think somewhere
• 1:47:19
  Speaker 1: in there. I mean, the question is just how much
• 1:47:21
  Speaker 1: are they really going to design runs for him? I
• 1:47:23
  Speaker 1: think it's going to be a pick your spots with
• 1:47:25
  Speaker 1: that talked about in the red zone, using read option
• 1:47:28
  Speaker 1: stuff like that to give the quarterback a little bit
• 1:47:31
  Speaker 1: of space to make plays. It's a lot harder to
• 1:47:34
  Speaker 1: defend when you have that extra guy holding onto the ball.
• 1:47:37
  Speaker 1: So I'd like to see that. I don't need to
• 1:47:38
  Speaker 1: see Lamar Jackson. I don't need to see Jaydon Daniels
• 1:47:42
  Speaker 1: where you're consistently getting into that stuff when you're in
• 1:47:44
  Speaker 1: your conventional offense in the middle of the field, but
• 1:47:47
  Speaker 1: the sneaks the third downs, nothing's open and he carries it.
• 1:47:50
  Speaker 1: Those plays three hundred sounds about right to me. I think,
• 1:47:53
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 1:47:54
  Speaker 2: Three fifty all right, Marcus Jones over under one and
• 1:47:58
  Speaker 2: a half touchdowns.
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 1: Oh, let's go over on that, really Yeah, Sure, Marcus
• 1:48:03
  Speaker 1: Jones gets a punt return.
• 1:48:05
  Speaker 2: And okay, it picks six. Okay, Harold Landry over under
• 1:48:09
  Speaker 2: nine and a half sacks.
• 1:48:10
  Speaker 1: It's a really interesting number. I want to say over,
• 1:48:15
  Speaker 1: but like I'm just I'm so worried it's gonna be
• 1:48:17
  Speaker 1: under and they need so much of him.
• 1:48:19
  Speaker 2: Well, as long as a lot of people are getting sacks,
• 1:48:22
  Speaker 2: I don't think you need that double.
• 1:48:23
  Speaker 1: You know, I'm gonna say under.
• 1:48:25
  Speaker 3: Under and let them do it by committee.
• 1:48:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, but I think he needs to be seven
• 1:48:30
  Speaker 1: eight nine kind of a kind of an impact to
• 1:48:32
  Speaker 1: really for the offense to really be hunting.
• 1:48:34
  Speaker 2: Okay, Carlton Davis two and a hay interceptions.
• 1:48:38
  Speaker 1: Can't throw at Gonzo, You're gonna have to throw at him,
• 1:48:39
  Speaker 1: I guess, so I'm gonna say over with him.
• 1:48:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Jared Wilson five and a hay starts.
• 1:48:47
  Speaker 1: Interesting, I'm gonna say, andres we haven't even seen him yet,
• 1:48:51
  Speaker 1: But I think that's again, like the Landry won great
• 1:48:53
  Speaker 1: questions that really get to the.
• 1:48:55
  Speaker 2: Heart of I'm gonna say over this year.
• 1:48:56
  Speaker 1: See that's great. I mean, if he's able to come
• 1:48:58
  Speaker 1: in and win a starting job and wow, we all rookie,
• 1:49:00
  Speaker 1: they believe in a rookie this.
• 1:49:01
  Speaker 3: Quick and hopefully not by necessity of injury.
• 1:49:05
  Speaker 2: Kyle Williams twelve and a half yards per reception.
• 1:49:09
  Speaker 1: Oh, I'll go over on that one. I think he's
• 1:49:12
  Speaker 1: gonna be a oh yeah, you think he'll be I
• 1:49:14
  Speaker 1: don't think I'll love a lot of class, but I
• 1:49:15
  Speaker 1: think he's got the downfield's catching skills and a little
• 1:49:19
  Speaker 1: savvy to get off the line.
• 1:49:20
  Speaker 2: And finally, Mike Rabel zero point five Microsoft surface is broken?
• 1:49:26
  Speaker 2: Has he been known to throw those?
• 1:49:28
  Speaker 1: I hope it's under. I hope it's under. I don't
• 1:49:30
  Speaker 1: need anything getting raves that mad. He's got to break
• 1:49:33
  Speaker 1: some tablets.
• 1:49:34
  Speaker 2: Okay, um, let's see jacket and arbus is. His biggest
• 1:49:42
  Speaker 2: heartbreak was September twenty fourth, nineteen ninety four. I was
• 1:49:47
  Speaker 2: watching from row twenty five in the twenty yard line.
• 1:49:50
  Speaker 2: Colorado's Cordell Stewart watched the sixty four yard desperation pass
• 1:49:54
  Speaker 2: time seemed to slow down. At the end of the day,
• 1:49:57
  Speaker 2: it fell into the arms of Colorado's Michael Westbrook to
• 1:50:00
  Speaker 2: give Colorado an improbable, miraculous twenty seven to twenty six win.
• 1:50:05
  Speaker 1: I like those Colorado teams there at be inge me
• 1:50:07
  Speaker 1: and for those days.
• 1:50:09
  Speaker 2: Wasn't Ty Law involved in that game?
• 1:50:11
  Speaker 1: I don't know. Was that that was against Michigan?
• 1:50:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, ninety four I think he was, and then he
• 1:50:18
  Speaker 2: got drafted here in ninety five. Yeah, I think, I think,
• 1:50:23
  Speaker 2: If I'm not incorrect, I.
• 1:50:24
  Speaker 1: Barely know what happened in college football last year.
• 1:50:27
  Speaker 2: Tellen what Wisconsin wants to know. Like everybody else, it seems,
• 1:50:33
  Speaker 2: when will this team get new permanent uniforms? Adopting the
• 1:50:37
  Speaker 2: color rush as lazy? The Patriots currently have one of
• 1:50:40
  Speaker 2: the worst uniforms in the league. The team deserves something good.
• 1:50:44
  Speaker 2: Put Alex in charge. I would certainly trust her decisions.
• 1:50:49
  Speaker 3: I appreciate that.
• 1:50:50
  Speaker 2: Like when did like this thing start that the Patriots
• 1:50:53
  Speaker 2: uniforms were so bad? Now I get the blueberry. I
• 1:50:56
  Speaker 2: don't like the whole blue on blue. I never liked
• 1:50:58
  Speaker 2: that from day one, But I don't mind the blue
• 1:51:02
  Speaker 2: one on gray.
• 1:51:03
  Speaker 1: Me neither all dirty pants Now I like those uniforms.
• 1:51:06
  Speaker 1: I think that should you know, you could update those
• 1:51:09
  Speaker 1: a little bit? Maybe, But do people call in and
• 1:51:10
  Speaker 1: complain about the uniforms before they made that switch to
• 1:51:12
  Speaker 1: the people complain about the the uniforms they were winning.
• 1:51:18
  Speaker 3: Dynasty era.
• 1:51:19
  Speaker 1: I love those uniforms.
• 1:51:21
  Speaker 3: I feel like so much of it has to do
• 1:51:22
  Speaker 3: with the performance.
• 1:51:23
  Speaker 1: But that's what it is, right, Like that's when people
• 1:51:26
  Speaker 1: like to me, if they came out in those uniforms
• 1:51:29
  Speaker 1: like first game of the season, unbeknownst to anybody, I
• 1:51:32
  Speaker 1: would be so jacked up because all of a sudden,
• 1:51:34
  Speaker 1: it's like the real Patriots are back.
• 1:51:36
  Speaker 8: You know.
• 1:51:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know if I'm going to get that.
• 1:51:39
  Speaker 4: But noway year increment where you're allowed to change them.
• 1:51:43
  Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know, but you have the
• 1:51:46
  Speaker 1: Rivalry uniform no where that wear that one game this year.
• 1:51:49
  Speaker 2: I think you'll almost have to give like a five
• 1:51:51
  Speaker 2: year notice or something like that because the supply chain,
• 1:51:54
  Speaker 2: and you know, because Nike who makes all you know,
• 1:51:57
  Speaker 2: they invest a lot in making these uniforms and they
• 1:52:01
  Speaker 2: have to have some warning that, okay, we need to
• 1:52:05
  Speaker 2: run out on this inventory before we start a new one.
• 1:52:09
  Speaker 2: And then you don't want to give people too much
• 1:52:11
  Speaker 2: of a heads up that oh we're gonna have new uniforms,
• 1:52:13
  Speaker 2: because then they'll stop buying the current one. So it
• 1:52:16
  Speaker 2: always comes down to money, folks. Always comes down to money.
• 1:52:20
  Speaker 1: The rule of life. But like it bugs me when
• 1:52:22
  Speaker 1: somebody's like, I forget which player was just got a
• 1:52:24
  Speaker 1: Tom brad It was a brown front. It might have
• 1:52:27
  Speaker 1: been got a Tom Brady jersey that got sent to him,
• 1:52:31
  Speaker 1: but it's like the current one and like he wore
• 1:52:32
  Speaker 1: that in the Thursday Night games and in twenty nineteen,
• 1:52:36
  Speaker 1: it's not the Tom Brady jersey like the one he
• 1:52:39
  Speaker 1: won Super Bowls, and like that's the one to get.
• 1:52:42
  Speaker 2: But like you said, it would be cool if, like whatever,
• 1:52:44
  Speaker 2: the team kept it completely under wraps and then I mean,
• 1:52:50
  Speaker 2: you know, Opening Night support, they ran out in these
• 1:52:53
  Speaker 2: completely different uniforms. People's heads would explode, you know, that's
• 1:52:57
  Speaker 2: for sure. But they don't. They could never do that
• 1:53:00
  Speaker 2: would lake out or they want to do you know,
• 1:53:03
  Speaker 2: the the unveil for you know, to get people to
• 1:53:07
  Speaker 2: buy it and all that. But it would be so
• 1:53:09
  Speaker 2: cool if they just ran out in new uniforms and
• 1:53:11
  Speaker 2: no one had any idea.
• 1:53:13
  Speaker 4: Well, and when you're not building a HiPE for it
• 1:53:15
  Speaker 4: and it just happens, you'd think that might be Yeah.
• 1:53:18
  Speaker 3: Now it's like like the pop website would crack exactly.
• 1:53:22
  Speaker 1: Paul wouldn't even notice it.
• 1:53:23
  Speaker 2: People would freak.
• 1:53:24
  Speaker 1: Out, what are they wearing? What? What?
• 1:53:26
  Speaker 2: What? People would freak out?
• 1:53:27
  Speaker 1: And well, I will just assure everyone I am very
• 1:53:30
  Speaker 1: passionate about those uniforms. So when you're passionate about those uniforms,
• 1:53:34
  Speaker 1: I will continue to bang the drum for those because,
• 1:53:36
  Speaker 1: like I said, the forty nine Ers, the Packers, the Cowboys,
• 1:53:40
  Speaker 1: the NFL Dynasties, the Raiders, like those are their uniforms.
• 1:53:43
  Speaker 1: Those are the teams. Nobody in Green Bay is like
• 1:53:45
  Speaker 1: we got to get new uniforms. Everyone loves them because
• 1:53:47
  Speaker 1: that's what they are. So yeah, stick with class. You
• 1:53:49
  Speaker 1: want in keep the reds is the alternates love that.
• 1:53:52
  Speaker 1: I don't need those to be full time.
• 1:53:55
  Speaker 2: But people just like new. They just like new.
• 1:53:59
  Speaker 1: Not always, so we'll see, we'll see. People are really picky.
• 1:54:03
  Speaker 1: I mean, I like, you know, the reactions to the well,
• 1:54:06
  Speaker 1: there's me two divisions, the FC East and I think
• 1:54:07
  Speaker 1: the NFC West that are going to have the rivalry
• 1:54:10
  Speaker 1: uniforms this year. We'll see how those are.
• 1:54:13
  Speaker 2: This is how it always goes on the block. So
• 1:54:16
  Speaker 2: I'll write, Wow, Pop had a great catch comment where's
• 1:54:21
  Speaker 2: Eft and Chisholm, And Chisholm had a great catch where's
• 1:54:25
  Speaker 2: mac Hollis? You know, like it's always the next guy.
• 1:54:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, now it's true. We love novelty for sure.
• 1:54:33
  Speaker 2: Let's see I wanted to talk about the rivalry jerseys.
• 1:54:39
  Speaker 1: Me too, Me too across the league because there's been
• 1:54:42
  Speaker 1: a lot of rumors going on, and I think the
• 1:54:43
  Speaker 1: teams all developed them independent of each other, so nobody
• 1:54:46
  Speaker 1: really knows what the other teams are doing. So it'll
• 1:54:49
  Speaker 1: be interesting to see with what they.
• 1:54:50
  Speaker 2: Come up with. Dan Wright, sin and Reno. His biggest
• 1:54:54
  Speaker 2: sports heartbreak was the eighty five Super Bowl loss to
• 1:54:57
  Speaker 2: the Bears. We had all the momentum going in and
• 1:54:59
  Speaker 2: we're promptly crushed. As a side note, cool Ranch Doritos
• 1:55:03
  Speaker 2: were introduced for the Super Bowl. It was the first
• 1:55:05
  Speaker 2: time in the fourteen year old me had them. I
• 1:55:09
  Speaker 2: have never trusted them since Cool Ranch Doritos in nineteen
• 1:55:13
  Speaker 2: eighty five.
• 1:55:14
  Speaker 1: Wow, really was that the second flavor? That must have
• 1:55:17
  Speaker 1: been the second flavor?
• 1:55:17
  Speaker 3: And now we just have the red bag the blue bag.
• 1:55:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, keep tracking. I wasn't crushed with the eighty
• 1:55:23
  Speaker 2: five First of all, I wasn't that big a Patriots
• 1:55:25
  Speaker 2: fan back then. I was a Bronco fan. But like,
• 1:55:30
  Speaker 2: they didn't have a chance from the from the get go.
• 1:55:32
  Speaker 2: I mean, they had the field goal.
• 1:55:35
  Speaker 1: But I've been living in this for the last they
• 1:55:38
  Speaker 1: got months after that field goal, it was all down
• 1:55:40
  Speaker 1: had but they had like Don Blackman had like an
• 1:55:42
  Speaker 1: interception go off his hands and look, Ultimately, nobody could
• 1:55:45
  Speaker 1: beat the Bears that year. And one of the players
• 1:55:47
  Speaker 1: I talked to said it felt like they had twenty
• 1:55:49
  Speaker 1: two guys on defense. Yeah, they had twenty two right,
• 1:55:52
  Speaker 1: So ultimately, at the time you didn't realize that you
• 1:55:54
  Speaker 1: were playing one of the all time great NFL teams.
• 1:55:58
  Speaker 2: But I to me, I had four quarters to prepare
• 1:56:01
  Speaker 2: myself that they were. This thing's over now.
• 1:56:03
  Speaker 1: They ran out of scheme for sure. But I talked
• 1:56:07
  Speaker 1: to Patrick Sullivan a couple of weeks ago, interviewed him
• 1:56:10
  Speaker 1: for probably talked to him about forty five minutes. So
• 1:56:12
  Speaker 1: it was just awesome. I mean, this is the son
• 1:56:14
  Speaker 1: of the founder of the Patriots, and he's got a
• 1:56:17
  Speaker 1: great perspective on that season. He became the GM a
• 1:56:19
  Speaker 1: couple of years earlier. So yeah, it's it's fine. I
• 1:56:23
  Speaker 1: gotten to know that season so much better now. It's interesting.
• 1:56:27
  Speaker 2: Ryan and Burlington One Patriots question two off season questions. One,
• 1:56:32
  Speaker 2: are we underestimating how little or how low our depth
• 1:56:35
  Speaker 2: is at certain or key positions?
• 1:56:38
  Speaker 1: Well, I hope if you listen to the show, you
• 1:56:40
  Speaker 1: know that we aren't because I think we pointed that out.
• 1:56:42
  Speaker 2: But I think you can go to any team in
• 1:56:45
  Speaker 2: the NFL and ask the same question. It's hard to
• 1:56:47
  Speaker 2: have quality depth at too many positions. YEA, you know,
• 1:56:52
  Speaker 2: you can have it in a couple but to have
• 1:56:55
  Speaker 2: it throughout your team is really tough in the NFL.
• 1:56:57
  Speaker 1: Probably every year that you have you know, I think
• 1:57:00
  Speaker 1: I think twenty thirteen, the Patriots lost Vince will Fork
• 1:57:03
  Speaker 1: and I forget who the other big tackle next to
• 1:57:05
  Speaker 1: him were. They lost them like within like the same
• 1:57:07
  Speaker 1: week or two. Yeah, devastating. It just crushed.
• 1:57:10
  Speaker 2: I remember the year that Brady was down to his
• 1:57:12
  Speaker 2: fifth center. Yeah, you know, it was like the center
• 1:57:15
  Speaker 2: position just kept getting killed.
• 1:57:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, the quarterback is always its unique piece,
• 1:57:20
  Speaker 1: and any team loses their starting quarterback, it's going to change.
• 1:57:23
  Speaker 1: But Paul's pointed out Will Campbell's health, and you know,
• 1:57:26
  Speaker 1: if he goes down, your Varian low who's in your
• 1:57:28
  Speaker 1: back to where you're right back? It was I think Splaine,
• 1:57:31
  Speaker 1: I think Harold Landry, Yeah, some of those Celenity people.
• 1:57:35
  Speaker 1: But yeah, like look if one of the safeties went down,
• 1:57:38
  Speaker 1: you know, like, who are right, We'll kind of figure
• 1:57:39
  Speaker 1: it out. You don't want to lose Davis or Gonzalez,
• 1:57:42
  Speaker 1: but you have some depth there to try to.
• 1:57:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, for a game or two, maybe you can figure
• 1:57:46
  Speaker 2: it out.
• 1:57:46
  Speaker 1: But but there's a handful of spots. Yeah, left tackle.
• 1:57:51
  Speaker 2: Off season questions. What's something another city in America has
• 1:57:55
  Speaker 2: that you wish Boston or perhaps you're a hometown would have.
• 1:57:59
  Speaker 3: Florida is bright Line? Florida is what the bright Line train? Oh,
• 1:58:04
  Speaker 3: it's fantastic. Okay, why don't we have that? Okays, it's terrible.
• 1:58:10
  Speaker 2: So your answer isn't nightlife?
• 1:58:13
  Speaker 3: No, I don't care about that.
• 1:58:14
  Speaker 2: You don't care about that anymore? Okay?
• 1:58:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe just like a better grid to get around
• 1:58:22
  Speaker 1: the city.
• 1:58:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:58:24
  Speaker 1: La was like once I get like, oh I get it,
• 1:58:26
  Speaker 1: I'm on Pico here, I'm gonna be a Piko.
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  Speaker 2: There a million. Yeah, but you don't want the traffic
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  Speaker 2: still drive around in Boston and I'm like, oh God,
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  Speaker 2: where am I going? If you learn, like, it's not
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  Speaker 2: that hard. You learned four or five of the major roads,
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  Speaker 2: you'll never get lost.
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  Speaker 3: Not that hard.
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  Speaker 4: It's just the traffic that accumulates because it's I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: But then you go into like Florida where it's I
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  Speaker 4: feel like it's just strip mall traffic, late strip mall traffic.
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  Speaker 3: That's so I don't know, good bar that makes.
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  Speaker 1: Me appreciate good barbecue.
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  Speaker 2: Uh. And this is a question for probably Alex's. I
• 1:58:59
  Speaker 2: haven't been there in yours. Is the seaport overrated?
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  Speaker 4: So I feel like the seaport is just like a
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  Speaker 4: propped up corporate neighborhood. It's just like restaurant. There's one
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  Speaker 4: grocery store, it's a Trader Joe's, which to me isn't
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  Speaker 4: like a real I love Trader Joe's, but it's not
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  Speaker 4: like a real grocery store. And it's smallbody there so expensive.
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  Speaker 3: It's a great question. I don't know. Oh they're so
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  Speaker 3: rich exactly. And it's like who can afford to actually
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  Speaker 3: live in those condos?
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  Speaker 2: I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: People do a lot of our players do, but I
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  Speaker 4: don't know. I can't fathom it. So I'm like, who
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  Speaker 4: are these people are?
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  Speaker 2: So what about not a place to live but a
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  Speaker 2: place to just go out.
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  Speaker 3: I think it's cool to hang out.
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  Speaker 4: I like the ocean, but but then I'm just like,
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  Speaker 4: I miss when it was the whiskey priest there and
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  Speaker 4: all those dives. And now it's just so built up
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  Speaker 4: and so expensive and it's kind of hard to get
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  Speaker 4: in and out of, Like you need a car, but
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  Speaker 4: then where do you park the car?
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  Speaker 3: Are it's so expensive? Yeah, well that's in Cambridge, I mean.
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  Speaker 1: Where I live, and Sharon, we have the commuter rail
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  Speaker 1: and which has changed my perspective because my where I
• 2:00:08
  Speaker 1: grew up it was impossible to get the Boston. It's like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: it's a nightmare. We didn't live, you know, we lived
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  Speaker 1: in between the highways. So uh there there are some
• 2:00:14
  Speaker 1: select spots with good transit.
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  Speaker 2: All right, that's going to be it for this edition
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  Speaker 2: of Patriots Unfiltered. If we one have a good weekend.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know what the weather's going to be like,
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