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- 1:18Speaker 6: To your stations, we have a movie meltdown.
- 1:20Speaker 4: Okay, guys.
- 1:22Speaker 2: All aboard the Hogwarts Express. Next stop, Azkaban. What's up,
- 1:35Speaker 2: and welcome to Movie Meltdown. I'm Brian. I'm Paul.
- 1:39Speaker 4: I'm Gina.
- 1:40Speaker 8: And we're coming to you live via digital recording from
- 1:42Speaker 8: Blue Jay Way. I forgot that's what we.
- 1:45Speaker 3: Called our house.
- 1:46Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not bad.
- 1:47Speaker 3: It's okay if you like the Beatles.
- 1:49Speaker 2: Well, I mean, what are you, an Elvis fan?
- 1:51Speaker 4: No.
- 1:52Speaker 8: All right, then. Elvis it is.
- 1:54Speaker 2: Let's talk about Elvis.
- 1:54Speaker 3: No.
- 1:55Speaker 8: And Elvis movies for the next hour and a half.
- 1:58Speaker 2: Oh, my God. Roustabout, I think. I think we need
- 2:01Speaker 2: to cover Roustabout. How can you name an Elvis movie?
- 2:03Speaker 2: The underappreciated Stay Away Joe.
- 2:06Speaker 8: It has a lot of guys pretending to be Native Americans,
- 2:10Speaker 8: but they're really just dorky white dudes in red face.
- 2:13Speaker 8: That I feel like would go over pretty well these days.
- 2:16Speaker 2: Well, I mean, it's no worse than the latest incarnation
- 2:20Speaker 2: of the Lone Ranger. Oh, my God.
- 2:23Speaker 4: No, no.
- 2:23Speaker 3: We didn't watch the whole thing.
- 2:24Speaker 8: He thinks that he's Native American, so it's all right.
- 2:28Speaker 8: As long as your actor is delusional and thinks that
- 2:31Speaker 8: he's Native American.
- 2:33Speaker 2: Also, don't we all.
- 2:34Speaker 8: Hate him now anyway because he's just kind of a creep?
- 2:37Speaker 3: What happened to him? Yes, and I'll tell you what.
- 2:39Speaker 2: He lost it. This goes right back to movies. The beasts. Magical.
- 2:45Speaker 8: Beast of the Southern Wild that are fantastic.
- 2:48Speaker 2: Damn it, and where to find them.
- 2:49Speaker 3: Where they lives.
- 2:51Speaker 2: I got them in my briefcase. Movie over.
- 2:57Speaker 3: I got them in my briefcase. Actually, I really like
- 2:59Speaker 3: those movies in one capacity. And I'm not sure what
- 3:03Speaker 3: that is yet, so when I figure it out, I'll
- 3:04Speaker 3: let you know.
- 3:05Speaker 8: Did it ruin it when that Depp character came horning
- 3:08Speaker 8: his way out?
- 3:08Speaker 2: Well, I mean, it was a bit offensive when he
- 3:10Speaker 2: portrayed an albino.
- 3:13Speaker 8: As an albino, I feel offended.
- 3:15Speaker 6: You should.
- 3:17Speaker 3: I just thought they were, I mean, it was dark.
- 3:18Speaker 3: It was really dark. And I really like the newt
- 3:21Speaker 3: scaremander character, even though I hate what's-his-face. He's like that
- 3:26Speaker 3: other guy waiting to happen.
- 3:27Speaker 4: What?
- 3:31Speaker 8: Does anyone out there speak Gina?
- 3:33Speaker 2: What do you mean?
- 3:34Speaker 8: Please translate for us.
- 3:35Speaker 3: He's like Sherlock Holmes waiting to happen.
- 3:37Speaker 8: That dude.
- 3:39Speaker 9: Oh.
- 3:39Speaker 8: Robert Downey Jr.
- 3:40Speaker 3: No, I like him.
- 3:42Speaker 8: He's good. The TV?
- 3:43Speaker 2: Who's the other Sherlock? Oh, Cumberbatch.
- 3:46Speaker 3: He's like a Benedict Cumberbatch waiting to happen. And I
- 3:48Speaker 3: also am troubled by him because every time I see him,
- 3:51Speaker 3: I think of his character in The Good Son. And
- 3:56Speaker 3: I cannot let it go.
- 3:57Speaker 2: I only see Scaramander.
- 4:00Speaker 9: I don't.
- 4:01Speaker 3: I see the guy in The Good Son who like
- 4:03Speaker 3: screws everything up. Well.
- 4:04Speaker 2: Holly Cog? I wouldn't trust that guy.
- 4:07Speaker 4: No.
- 4:07Speaker 2: Let's get past that. Okay.
- 4:09Speaker 3: So I like those movies. I love the critters.
- 4:12Speaker 8: I like, I mean.
- 4:13Speaker 2: Where do you find them?
- 4:15Speaker 3: In a briefcase.
- 4:16Speaker 2: I got it right here.
- 4:17Speaker 8: I got it in my briefcase.
- 4:18Speaker 2: Let me show you.
- 4:19Speaker 8: I feel like he's a Fantastic Beasts salesman. He's just
- 4:22Speaker 8: going to show up and be like, hold on a second.
- 4:24Speaker 2: Click, click.
- 4:25Speaker 8: And he opens it up and he's like, let me
- 4:26Speaker 8: show you my latest beast. And he pulls them all
- 4:29Speaker 8: out and does a nice little demonstration. And then you
- 4:32Speaker 8: have to buy them or you'll never get them out
- 4:33Speaker 8: of your living room.
- 4:34Speaker 3: How come he's never shown us what nargles look like?
- 4:36Speaker 2: He's the magical British Jack Hanna.
- 4:40Speaker 3: You know?
- 4:42Speaker 8: So somewhere there's a British Johnny Carson that's got him
- 4:44Speaker 8: on and there's some sort of fantastic beat crapping in
- 4:48Speaker 8: his hand. He's like crawling in Johnny's hair. He's like,
- 4:51Speaker 8: why do we keep booking this bastard?
- 4:56Speaker 4: Wow.
- 4:56Speaker 3: There's another thing we need to make.
- 5:00Speaker 2: Magical Beast Jack Hanna, yeah.
- 5:02Speaker 3: Yeah, or like him on a talk show.
- 5:04Speaker 8: This is at least a skit. I don't know if
- 5:05Speaker 8: it's worth its own movie.
- 5:06Speaker 3: No, no, no, it's a skit. Actually, a lot of
- 5:09Speaker 3: things are probably just skits that we have.
- 5:11Speaker 8: Probably, but we can't get those together either.
- 5:14Speaker 2: A lot of movies should only have been skits.
- 5:17Speaker 8: Sometimes that's become, well, that's become an ongoing thing, I
- 5:20Speaker 8: keep saying. There's trying to decide what's the right format
- 5:23Speaker 8: for you now that we have so many that you
- 5:25Speaker 8: can do anything from a five-minute YouTube clip to a
- 5:30Speaker 8: full-length 90-minute movie to a 15-hour series, all of these
- 5:36Speaker 8: things are on the table if you have the right backing. Like,
- 5:39Speaker 8: you can do any of them. And, like, sometimes they
- 5:42Speaker 8: choose the wrong one.
- 5:43Speaker 2: That's absolutely right.
- 5:44Speaker 3: What you're saying is we just need to find the
- 5:46Speaker 3: right backing.
- 5:47Speaker 8: If you can find us some, like, full-on, crazy, rich person.
- 5:51Speaker 2: Netflix, Amazon. Yeah, I'll take any of their monies. I mean,
- 5:55Speaker 2: they would pay you millions.
- 5:57Speaker 10: I know!
- 5:59Speaker 3: They'll just give you something to make some show.
- 6:02Speaker 2: Now, see, Google here lately has been.
- 6:06Speaker 2: Who owns YouTube? Has been... You what? Google. They bailed
- 6:12Speaker 2: on us, though. Well, they pulled out of our town.
- 6:14Speaker 3: I don't understand the Google.
- 6:15Speaker 2: I feel there's a larger story there that's taking place,
- 6:18Speaker 2: which is that the Google corporate structure, the mothership, as
- 6:23Speaker 2: you will... As it will eventually be. Is saying, hey.
- 6:29Speaker 2: These are great lofty goals. These projects that you have, these, this,
- 6:32Speaker 2: this fiber cable, this YouTube, but you need to show
- 6:37Speaker 2: a profit. And these are starting to cash in.
- 6:41Speaker 3: Is it because Jeff Bezos is getting a divorce? So
- 6:43Speaker 3: suddenly he has to be more cautious with how much
- 6:46Speaker 3: money he makes.
- 6:47Speaker 8: I got to shell out a lot of money.
- 6:49Speaker 3: Am I going to be a poor bachelor?
- 6:52Speaker 2: Right. Well, Hey, to go back to, uh, The realm
- 6:56Speaker 2: of the muggles and the magics. I know that the
- 7:05Speaker 2: second in the series of the Fantastic Beasts was kind
- 7:07Speaker 2: of panned by the critics, but I liked it. I
- 7:10Speaker 2: thought there were some problems with it, but I thought
- 7:13Speaker 2: it was a good film.
- 7:15Speaker 8: Is it sad that I've lost track of how far
- 7:17Speaker 8: I am?
- 7:18Speaker 4: Eddie Redmayne.
- 7:18Speaker 8: That's a guy's name. Are we on the second or
- 7:20Speaker 8: the third one yet? No, we're on the second one. No,
- 7:22Speaker 8: just on the second. Okay, so that's when Depp showed
- 7:25Speaker 8: up and ruined Depp.
- 7:26Speaker 2: Well, Depp was in the first one.
- 7:27Speaker 3: I think he was at the very end of the
- 7:28Speaker 3: first one.
- 7:28Speaker 8: Just as a teaser, though. Yeah. To let you know,
- 7:31Speaker 8: we're gonna ruin your movie.
- 7:32Speaker 2: Technically, the character was in it throughout the first movie.
- 7:35Speaker 2: You just didn't see the actor until the end. And
- 7:39Speaker 2: that's how all of his performances should be.
- 7:41Speaker 8: Well, without Johnny Depp.
- 7:43Speaker 2: Now, Now, what was interesting about the first one was, or, well. Oh,
- 7:49Speaker 2: I just had another good idea. God, who was the
- 7:53Speaker 2: guy that.
- 7:54Speaker 3: Colin Farrell.
- 7:54Speaker 2: Colin Farrell. So, the way that he portrayed Johnny Depp
- 7:59Speaker 2: portraying that character, or vice versa.
- 8:01Speaker 8: Was good.
- 8:03Speaker 2: They were seamless in the way that they did that,
- 8:06Speaker 2: which was very impressive, actually, I thought. Yeah. In the
- 8:10Speaker 2: first film. The second film, you know, it's a bit more.
- 8:13Speaker 3: Because everyone knows Colin Farrell is the poor Irishman's Johnny Depp.
- 8:18Speaker 2: That's a sad, sorry statement.
- 8:21Speaker 3: I really like Colin Farrell. I think he's solid.
- 8:23Speaker 2: He is okay. He's good. He's okay.
- 8:25Speaker 8: He's no.
- 8:27Speaker 2: Liam Neeson?
- 8:27Speaker 8: Let's not even go down that road. Yikes.
- 8:34Speaker 3: He has a particular set of skills.
- 8:36Speaker 8: But can you see Colin.
- 8:40Speaker 8: I think I'm forgetting because it becomes the game. I
- 8:43Speaker 8: keep always putting Colin Firth into Colin Farrell films. I'm like, wow,
- 8:49Speaker 8: this seems really miscast. I'm constantly going the wrong direction
- 8:54Speaker 8: on those Collins.
- 8:54Speaker 3: I always get Colin Firth confused with the guy that
- 9:00Speaker 3: hosts the news thing. Is that not Colin Firth? Is
- 9:02Speaker 3: that Colin Firth?
- 9:03Speaker 4: What?
- 9:04Speaker 3: The British guy?
- 9:06Speaker 8: The one that took over, like, the Daily Show?
- 9:08Speaker 11: No, no, no, no.
- 9:09Speaker 8: Not John Oliver.
- 9:10Speaker 3: Not John Oliver. Let me find my phone.
- 9:13Speaker 5: Oh, no.
- 9:14Speaker 3: Colin.
- 9:14Speaker 2: Go find your computer. Colin Hanks.
- 9:18Speaker 8: You're getting mixed up with Colin Hanks.
- 9:20Speaker 2: Oh, is this a rapper? Get out.
- 9:23Speaker 8: I know we're in your house, but get out.
- 9:25Speaker 3: Tom Hanks has a rapper son.
- 9:27Speaker 2: Ted Hayes. So anyway, I don't know. So anyway, so
- 9:36Speaker 2: the Harry Potter universe. The Potterverse, sure. Potterverse. Potter realm.
- 9:44Speaker 2: Potter world. Potter more.
- 9:47Speaker 8: Are you looking forward to going to it and immersing
- 9:50Speaker 8: yourself into it?
- 9:52Speaker 2: We did. We did. What is your take on it?
- 9:54Speaker 3: Oh, well.
- 9:56Speaker 2: How is it to be in that world in your
- 9:58Speaker 2: real life? So last year, Gene and I went to
- 10:03Speaker 2: Universal Studios.
- 10:04Speaker 3: With your family.
- 10:05Speaker 2: With my family. I'm sorry about that. Yeah.
- 10:08Speaker 3: It was great.
- 10:08Speaker 2: It got totally... Mixed reviews. But the Potter realm of
- 10:16Speaker 2: Universal Studios was actually... And we went, let me preface
- 10:21Speaker 2: it by saying we went on the busiest week of
- 10:24Speaker 2: the year. Good call.
- 10:26Speaker 3: And wait a minute, let me also say it was
- 10:27Speaker 3: supposed to be 80 degrees.
- 10:28Speaker 11: Right.
- 10:29Speaker 2: Was it? No, it was 46 to 50 degrees. I
- 10:34Speaker 2: feel like most of those are British kids anyway.
- 10:35Speaker 8: They're used to cold weather. So you're just supposed to
- 10:38Speaker 8: show up with that potter scarf on. Not these British kids.
- 10:41Speaker 2: You're not British kids.
- 10:42Speaker 8: That's your problem.
- 10:43Speaker 2: It's my potter scarf.
- 10:44Speaker 8: See? Exactly. But you're Hufflepuff, so nobody wants to.
- 10:47Speaker 2: Talk to you. But anyway, in terms of Universal Studios,
- 10:52Speaker 2: it was magical. I was totally skeptical, as all Gen
- 10:57Speaker 2: Xers are, about what the series would be like, but
- 11:00Speaker 2: I was really surprised. It was amazing. I mean, we
- 11:04Speaker 2: were on the platform nine and three quarters. We got
- 11:07Speaker 2: on the train. We had a magical experience. We went
- 11:10Speaker 2: into Hogwarts. We had Gringotts. Et cetera, et cetera.
- 11:15Speaker 9: Oh, God.
- 11:16Speaker 3: And the dragon breathes fire and.
- 11:19Speaker 2: You can feel the heat.
- 11:20Speaker 3: The dragon breathes fire. Especially when it's 40 degrees. But
- 11:22Speaker 3: it was supposed to be 80. So we got there
- 11:23Speaker 3: and we were like totally unprepared.
- 11:25Speaker 2: Diagon Alley, yeah. Yeah, so.
- 11:27Speaker 3: And then they opened the pub and that made it.
- 11:29Speaker 2: That much better. You can't remember anything after that. Yeah,
- 11:32Speaker 2: Butterbeer was half off. But in the staff there at
- 11:37Speaker 2: Universal Studios, they know to recognize the houses by their colors.
- 11:43Speaker 2: So they call you, hey, Hufflepuff.
- 11:46Speaker 10: Hey, Hufflepuff.
- 11:46Speaker 2: Get on the train, you idiot.
- 11:48Speaker 8: Get over here.
- 11:49Speaker 2: No.
- 11:50Speaker 3: And sometimes they'll have on their own. So they'll be like, hey.
- 11:53Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. It was immersive and interesting. And I think
- 11:57Speaker 2: probably because we were there on the busiest day of
- 12:00Speaker 2: the year, We were surrounded by thousands of other Harry
- 12:05Speaker 2: Potter fanatics, mostly children under the age of 15.
- 12:09Speaker 3: That's not true because the parents were just as into it.
- 12:12Speaker 8: That's true.
- 12:12Speaker 3: And that was like one of the cool things about
- 12:14Speaker 3: it is it was like the total like everybody was
- 12:17Speaker 3: into it. That was their parents, kids. And then we
- 12:20Speaker 3: left to go ride other stuff in the park. And
- 12:23Speaker 3: it was like, yeah, I don't want to be around.
- 12:26Speaker 3: Not these muggles.
- 12:27Speaker 2: Regular people.
- 12:29Speaker 3: You really did feel a difference.
- 12:31Speaker 2: Was it the King Kong ride?
- 12:32Speaker 3: Yeah, it was like full of muggles. It was like
- 12:35Speaker 3: everybody was a John C. Reilly character.
- 12:38Speaker 6: It was.
- 12:39Speaker 2: It was like we went through this totally immersive.
- 12:42Speaker 3: And everybody was like, hi, and polite and nice.
- 12:44Speaker 2: And then we went from jolly old magical England to
- 12:49Speaker 2: a jungle in America. Sweatpants.
- 12:52Speaker 4: Sweatpants.
- 12:53Speaker 2: Sweatpants.
- 12:54Speaker 8: It's full of muggles.
- 12:55Speaker 3: It was full of muggles.
- 12:56Speaker 2: Oh, my God. And it was muggles. It's full of muggles.
- 12:59Speaker 3: There were a lot of Morlocks as well.
- 13:02Speaker 8: Yeah.
- 13:03Speaker 2: Hal, please shut down society.
- 13:05Speaker 8: It's full of muggles.
- 13:08Speaker 2: I would say that Eloy were on the outside of
- 13:11Speaker 2: Potter world. But anyway, I did not feel as though like.
- 13:16Speaker 8: It didn't feel like a record.
- 13:16Speaker 2: I read the books, but I still did not consider
- 13:20Speaker 2: myself to be like a... crazy Potter fan, but of
- 13:25Speaker 2: course now I am. I'm like over the top.
- 13:28Speaker 8: It's all comparative, I suppose.
- 13:29Speaker 2: I'm over the top Potter fan.
- 13:32Speaker 3: You have said, let's go back there.
- 13:33Speaker 2: Yeah, I totally, and I would pay an exorbitant amount.
- 13:37Speaker 2: And this kind of ties into our conversation.
- 13:39Speaker 3: Why don't they open a Harry Potter hotel for that?
- 13:40Speaker 2: This kind of ties into our conversation about the conventions.
- 13:44Speaker 2: And being so immersed in here. But that's something that
- 13:48Speaker 2: I can totally get behind paying for. That's what I
- 13:52Speaker 2: was going to ask.
- 13:53Speaker 8: Do you like the completely immersive experience of them calling you, hey, Hufflepuff,
- 14:00Speaker 8: get your ass over here? So much so that because
- 14:03Speaker 8: I know they're doing that with, they're making a hotel
- 14:06Speaker 8: that's going to be Star Wars themed. And everything, like,
- 14:10Speaker 8: people will be standing in uniform, and they'll be, hey,
- 14:12Speaker 8: rebel scum, get your ass in here.
- 14:14Speaker 2: I don't know.
- 14:14Speaker 9: I love that.
- 14:15Speaker 8: But, I mean, I think they are supposed to be semi-in-character.
- 14:18Speaker 8: Is that going too far?
- 14:20Speaker 3: No.
- 14:20Speaker 2: Or is that.
- 14:21Speaker 8: I don't think so. I mean, that's Disney, but.
- 14:24Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 14:25Speaker 8: Yeah.
- 14:25Speaker 2: The one thing Disney doesn't own yet is... Wait a minute.
- 14:28Speaker 2: Just give it time. They'll get Potter.
- 14:30Speaker 3: It would be awesome if they did a... like Hogwarts,
- 14:35Speaker 3: where you could stay. I mean, that would be totally genius.
- 14:38Speaker 8: See, I'm surprised they haven't already.
- 14:40Speaker 3: I am shocked.
- 14:41Speaker 2: Well, they have a section of Universal that they're still developing,
- 14:44Speaker 2: so that may be coming.
- 14:45Speaker 3: No, they've cleared out the old Dueling Dragons, which was
- 14:47Speaker 3: one of my favorite rides, and they're turning that. That
- 14:49Speaker 3: was something, but now they're.
- 14:51Speaker 2: Turning it into something else. There's a big blank area
- 14:54Speaker 2: on the map. A big blank area. Right there. That
- 14:56Speaker 2: there's construction going on. Here there be tigers.
- 14:59Speaker 3: So I do, I love that total immersive experience. And
- 15:02Speaker 3: I think as a kid, that's what threw me when
- 15:05Speaker 3: you would go somewhere and you would have like in
- 15:08Speaker 3: your mind that it would be like that, right? And
- 15:10Speaker 3: you would be like, if you wore your Hogwarts scarf,
- 15:13Speaker 3: like if we had been kids and we'd gone to
- 15:15Speaker 3: Disney or Kings Island or whatever and you had on
- 15:17Speaker 3: the right scarf, some like pimply faced teenager wouldn't be like,
- 15:21Speaker 3: what's a puff, puff, puff?
- 15:21Speaker 2: They'd be like.
- 15:23Speaker 3: Yeah, right.
- 15:24Speaker 4: You know?
- 15:24Speaker 8: You're not tall enough to be on this ride.
- 15:28Speaker 3: That is like a great experience.
- 15:30Speaker 2: We had every excuse to go, oh, my God, this
- 15:35Speaker 2: is fucking crazy. I mean, there were thousands of people everywhere.
- 15:41Speaker 3: And we were just like in line and we were like, okay.
- 15:44Speaker 2: And yet, even that, considering it was charming- It was charming.
- 15:50Speaker 2: Every element of it was like perfectly choreographed so that
- 15:56Speaker 2: they made sure that people didn't lose their cool. And
- 15:59Speaker 2: when people did lose their cool, it was like, oh, well,
- 16:03Speaker 2: that person's an idiot. Get out, muggle.
- 16:05Speaker 3: You're a muggle.
- 16:06Speaker 2: Yeah, it was very, very, it was a very interesting moment.
- 16:11Speaker 3: It was an interesting psychological experiment.
- 16:18Speaker 2: That said, I would say maybe go during February or
- 16:22Speaker 2: September when it's not quite so crazy.
- 16:25Speaker 3: Because it was so crazy, all the shops were packed.
- 16:29Speaker 3: Didn't they have Christmas decorations?
- 16:32Speaker 2: Yeah, it was Christmas week.
- 16:35Speaker 8: Christmas features very heavily in the Potter season.
- 16:37Speaker 3: Yeah, and so all the stores were because nobody had
- 16:41Speaker 3: dressed right so everybody was like buying shit i need
- 16:44Speaker 3: a scarf yeah and so you got in there and
- 16:47Speaker 3: it was just like oh my god it's just like
- 16:50Speaker 3: the movie like it was just chaos of kids running
- 16:53Speaker 3: and trying things on.
- 16:54Speaker 2: And yeah it was really fun yeah and uh.
- 16:58Speaker 3: And we don't have kids but if we had kids
- 17:00Speaker 3: i could imagine we would have been like more into
- 17:02Speaker 3: it than our kids probably.
- 17:04Speaker 2: Well we'll get our chance With what?
- 17:07Speaker 8: You'll take your cats there.
- 17:08Speaker 2: They won't care. My nephew.
- 17:10Speaker 3: They won't care. They'll like things like trucks and tractors.
- 17:13Speaker 2: They're not... Truck world? Truck world. What's wrong with that?
- 17:17Speaker 2: There's a tractor convention actually happening right now.
- 17:20Speaker 3: No, but I don't think they'll be into Harry Potter.
- 17:23Speaker 3: Although they might.
- 17:24Speaker 2: What if they did a Transformers world?
- 17:27Speaker 8: Oh, God. Yeah, I'm not saying I like those. But
- 17:31Speaker 8: I'm saying, yeah, we'll go with Bumblebee because I like Hayley.
- 17:34Speaker 8: So we'll... I'm trying to decide, will that kind of
- 17:38Speaker 8: experience work for all these different things?
- 17:41Speaker 2: No, it would work for Star Wars. It would work
- 17:42Speaker 2: for Star Wars.
- 17:43Speaker 8: It would work for Star Trek.
- 17:44Speaker 3: And it would work for Star Trek. It works for
- 17:45Speaker 3: Harry Potter.
- 17:46Speaker 8: But, I'm like, as a previous reference that you made
- 17:49Speaker 8: in the past, Paul, would you like it if you
- 17:52Speaker 8: were in, like, Wireland?
- 17:55Speaker 2: You were immersed in the land of the wire. And, like, everybody, like,
- 18:00Speaker 2: talked to you like cops. I would love that. I mean, yeah.
- 18:02Speaker 8: So, I'm like, could you find a way to make
- 18:05Speaker 8: All of these different little.
- 18:07Speaker 2: Pop culture beaches.
- 18:07Speaker 3: I would go and vote for Mayor Karketty. Into a land.
- 18:10Speaker 8: This would be an immersive experience.
- 18:13Speaker 2: I'm going to go vote for Mayor Karketty. An animatronic Karketty.
- 18:17Speaker 2: Welcome to Baltimore.
- 18:23Speaker 3: And a stringer bell.
- 18:24Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 18:25Speaker 3: An animatronic stringer bell.
- 18:27Speaker 8: Yes.
- 18:27Speaker 2: Once again, why are we not putting this together? Start now.
- 18:31Speaker 8: Pooling the money right now.
- 18:32Speaker 2: There's plenty of opportunity. Disney's already doing it with.
- 18:38Speaker 3: Star Wars.
- 18:39Speaker 2: No.
- 18:40Speaker 8: Muppets?
- 18:41Speaker 12: Jaws?
- 18:42Speaker 2: Blue people.
- 18:43Speaker 8: Oh, Avatar.
- 18:44Speaker 2: Avatar.
- 18:45Speaker 8: That doesn't count.
- 18:45Speaker 3: Blue Man Group.
- 18:46Speaker 2: Disney's doing it with Avatar.
- 18:47Speaker 3: Nobody cares about Avatar.
- 18:48Speaker 2: I've heard that it's amazing. It's very immersive.
- 18:50Speaker 3: Did you care that... I didn't care about Avatar.
- 18:52Speaker 2: I avoided it for.
- 18:54Speaker 8: It doesn't matter.
- 18:55Speaker 2: It doesn't matter because I feel.
- 18:58Speaker 2: And I have not seen it, but I'm saying reports
- 19:01Speaker 2: from the scene are that... This just in.
- 19:06Speaker 3: On the scene, Paul Moeller reporting from Avatar World.
- 19:09Speaker 2: Reports are that it is an amazing immersive experience that
- 19:15Speaker 2: surpasses the movie. Even if you hate Avatar? That's what
- 19:18Speaker 2: I was going to say.
- 19:19Speaker 8: What if he... I feel like that's almost the way
- 19:21Speaker 8: Cameron has always been. He always gets so immersed in
- 19:25Speaker 8: his ideas, at least... from Aliens, True Lies on.
- 19:33Speaker 3: By the time he went to Underwater, by.
- 19:36Speaker 8: The time he hit Abyss, he was obsessed with the Underwater.
- 19:39Speaker 2: Titanic.
- 19:40Speaker 8: So much so that he's making documentaries about it.
- 19:42Speaker 3: Yeah then you get to like.
- 19:43Speaker 8: Titanic is kind of that same weird obsession so like
- 19:47Speaker 8: by the time you get to avatar like he's kind
- 19:50Speaker 8: of so immersed in this idea that like was he
- 19:54Speaker 8: even like way more invested in the idea than the
- 19:57Speaker 8: movie which is why everybody's just kind of like yeah
- 20:01Speaker 8: again if anybody liked the movie it's they would comment
- 20:03Speaker 8: on the technology involved they would be like oh this
- 20:06Speaker 8: is really cool you know this immersive experience, blah, blah, blah.
- 20:10Speaker 8: But nobody was like.
- 20:11Speaker 2: Man, that story was great. Everybody's seen the story.
- 20:15Speaker 8: It's been done a million times. So was he not
- 20:17Speaker 8: focusing on the story because he was way more obsessed
- 20:21Speaker 8: with the technology and creating this extra... He's just recreating Greco-Roman...
- 20:26Speaker 8: Or Dances with Wolves.
- 20:28Speaker 3: And I do love James Cameron for that idea that he....
- 20:34Speaker 2: He goes above and beyond filmmaking.
- 20:36Speaker 3: It's like it becomes a research project for him.
- 20:38Speaker 6: It does.
- 20:38Speaker 3: He makes a movie, and that just happens to be
- 20:43Speaker 3: the thing that happens. But then he just gets so
- 20:45Speaker 3: deep into something. And I totally understand that and get that.
- 20:49Speaker 3: Because you get lost in the world of whatever you're making.
- 20:51Speaker 3: And it's not the product, it's the process.
- 20:55Speaker 2: And I think that that is, I mean, in my opinion,
- 20:58Speaker 2: that is... great filmmaking where you have.
- 21:05Speaker 3: But I think the movies can be terrible, but I
- 21:07Speaker 3: like what he does.
- 21:09Speaker 2: True, but he is an artist.
- 21:11Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 21:12Speaker 2: You can't argue.
- 21:13Speaker 8: He gets that passionate because he's an artist.
- 21:16Speaker 3: So I don't care for his things, but I like him.
- 21:19Speaker 2: Let's see if I can phrase this right.
- 21:20Speaker 8: I kind of want to hear where we're going.
- 21:22Speaker 2: You can have a bad film and still be a
- 21:24Speaker 2: great filmmaker. Yeah.
- 21:31Speaker 3: There's a lot of that, yeah.
- 21:33Speaker 2: In that if you are completely immersed in the subject.
- 21:37Speaker 8: Matter, then the job is done.
- 21:42Speaker 2: The job is done. And Harry Potter or Dirty Harry,
- 21:49Speaker 2: it doesn't matter. If you are immersed in that world
- 21:53Speaker 2: and you have escaped... Wait, I'm casting my own movie now.
- 21:58Speaker 8: Or it might just be on the internet.
- 22:00Speaker 2: Hold on. If you have escaped for, you know, an
- 22:05Speaker 2: hour and a half, two hours, then the job is done.
- 22:09Speaker 2: You've succeeded.
- 22:11Speaker 8: But do people have to respond to it, or are
- 22:13Speaker 8: you just creating it? I mean, on some level, just
- 22:17Speaker 8: you getting it done is its own satisfaction.
- 22:20Speaker 2: What do you mean? Does the maker have to respond
- 22:23Speaker 2: to it? Is that what you're saying?
- 22:24Speaker 8: Well, no, I was kind of asking both. I was like,
- 22:26Speaker 8: number one, I feel like it is just like, if
- 22:28Speaker 8: you can get a movie made, period, that's kind of impressive.
- 22:32Speaker 2: Amazing.
- 22:33Speaker 8: But it's like above and beyond if you then have
- 22:36Speaker 8: people responding to it, if they actually do... If it
- 22:40Speaker 8: is an immersive experience, if you are taking them to like, again,
- 22:43Speaker 8: kids watching Harry Potter that first time, like it opened
- 22:47Speaker 8: up a whole new world, literally and figuratively for them
- 22:50Speaker 8: that like has gone on to the point that now
- 22:53Speaker 8: there is an entire theme park based around it. Like
- 22:56Speaker 8: that is something that really did kind of hit in
- 23:00Speaker 8: a weird way that like no matter how how good
- 23:04Speaker 8: the intentions were on that first movie, it surpassed that.
- 23:07Speaker 8: It is an immersive experience now.
- 23:10Speaker 3: It's hard, though, to put the two against one another
- 23:13Speaker 3: because one was a book that was very cleverly written,
- 23:17Speaker 3: even though the stories are just like, we just keep
- 23:20Speaker 3: retelling the same stories over and over, but there were
- 23:22Speaker 3: so many subtle little things in it and they took
- 23:24Speaker 3: you to a different world by a woman who just, whatever,
- 23:27Speaker 3: she wrote it in a coffee shop. I'm sure there's
- 23:30Speaker 3: more behind that story, but... Then there's James Cameron, who's
- 23:33Speaker 3: made movies and then kind of made big enough movies
- 23:36Speaker 3: that he got a chance to make bigger and bigger
- 23:38Speaker 3: movies and to have the budget to get lost in that.
- 23:40Speaker 2: From a different time.
- 23:41Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 23:42Speaker 3: But you know what I'm saying? So he has the
- 23:43Speaker 3: budget and the whatever to go on and experiment and
- 23:48Speaker 3: try these things. And I mean, you know, it's not
- 23:50Speaker 3: like he's making anything groundbreaking. Visually, yes.
- 23:54Speaker 2: Technology, yes.
- 23:55Speaker 8: I was like, technology-wise, he does always up the game
- 23:59Speaker 8: each time he does it.
- 24:01Speaker 2: Movie-wise, sometimes it's just a movie.
- 24:03Speaker 3: It's just a movie. But I respect that even though
- 24:05Speaker 3: the movies are kind of creptacular, everything that he puts
- 24:08Speaker 3: into it and what comes out of that for the
- 24:12Speaker 3: next movie or whoever's making movies after that, it's like
- 24:15Speaker 3: an advance in technology. But to me, they're two totally
- 24:18Speaker 3: different things because one is this charming, it was a book,
- 24:21Speaker 3: The other is like a guy who's made enough money
- 24:24Speaker 3: to get to experiment. Like George Lucas, you know, like
- 24:27Speaker 3: he had an idea and now he had ILM.
- 24:30Speaker 8: I feel like that first Harry Potter movie wasn't made
- 24:33Speaker 8: by her. So again, you're still handing it over to
- 24:37Speaker 8: someone else to channel it through their vision.
- 24:40Speaker 3: But she had the material. The material was there. He's
- 24:42Speaker 3: come up with the material and the movie.
- 24:44Speaker 2: Yes.
- 24:45Speaker 8: But there are plenty of directors who have also written
- 24:47Speaker 8: a screenplay and gone on to.
- 24:49Speaker 3: Well, and then that's the next thing I'm talking about.
- 24:51Speaker 3: I mean, we're talking about like big budget stuff. Like
- 24:53Speaker 3: how many people struggle to make like a quality movie
- 24:56Speaker 3: that's not that.
- 24:59Speaker 8: All of them.
- 25:00Speaker 2: Most of them.
- 25:01Speaker 3: Most everyone. But we're like, how do you touch on
- 25:05Speaker 3: that subject?
- 25:06Speaker 2: How do you find the... So I don't know.
- 25:08Speaker 8: Where do we want to start with? Do we want
- 25:10Speaker 8: to talk about the.
- 25:12Speaker 3: Well, I'm terrible at talking about anything but things where
- 25:14Speaker 3: things explode or whatever.
- 25:16Speaker 8: Well, no, but you're talking about.
- 25:19Speaker 2: So you love Transformers.
- 25:20Speaker 8: I'll admit.
- 25:22Speaker 2: Explosions, y'all. Explosions.
- 25:25Speaker 3: I have enough emotions and whatever... that I don't need
- 25:28Speaker 3: to see touching emotional movies. I just want to watch
- 25:31Speaker 3: shit blow up. I've said it, and I'll say it again.
- 25:33Speaker 3: I say it every time we talk about this stuff.
- 25:35Speaker 2: So a billboard in Massachusetts, or whatever the name of
- 25:39Speaker 2: that movie is. It's not a movie.
- 25:40Speaker 8: Three billboards down the road.
- 25:44Speaker 11: Yeah.
- 25:44Speaker 3: Montana.
- 25:45Speaker 2: That one. You don't want to see that one.
- 25:47Speaker 3: I like the cast.
- 25:50Speaker 8: Again, so my thing is, then do you put more
- 25:54Speaker 8: faith in the writing... For the film itself.
- 25:58Speaker 4: I do.
- 25:59Speaker 3: That's what I hope for.
- 25:59Speaker 2: Because I try to separate... I don't think that you can.
- 26:02Speaker 3: Oh, well, no. If I just want to see things
- 26:05Speaker 3: blow up, I don't put any faith in the writing.
- 26:07Speaker 3: I'm always shocked if there's anything that I'm like, oh,
- 26:10Speaker 3: human emotion.
- 26:10Speaker 2: But... I feel like it's a marriage between the writer
- 26:14Speaker 2: and the director. Yeah, you definitely need both. You can
- 26:19Speaker 2: have great writing and a horrible delivery from a visual...
- 26:24Speaker 2: and it will not work you have to have both
- 26:27Speaker 2: of them working in concert start because again look how
- 26:31Speaker 2: many like attempts to make something that's supposedly a great
- 26:35Speaker 2: novel and then the movie goes wrong and you blame
- 26:39Speaker 2: it on the filmmaker a lot of times but i'm
- 26:41Speaker 2: like maybe this just isn't right for.
- 26:44Speaker 8: This like there's so many other elements that come into
- 26:46Speaker 8: play but people just want to put the book on
- 26:49Speaker 8: a pedestal. No matter what book it is, it can
- 26:51Speaker 8: be freaking Fifty Shades of Grey and somebody's watching that
- 26:53Speaker 8: movie going, well, the books are better.
- 26:55Speaker 2: And I'm like, that's... bullshit.
- 26:57Speaker 8: Because it's an entirely different format that's unfair.
- 27:00Speaker 3: Because that's total shit anyway.
- 27:01Speaker 8: That was why i used that i mean obviously you
- 27:04Speaker 8: can pick some great.
- 27:05Speaker 2: Novel and be like well but it but it's a
- 27:07Speaker 2: different it's a different medium and you have to yeah
- 27:11Speaker 2: you have to approach it from a different angle that's
- 27:14Speaker 2: what i keep saying and it's it's a it's a
- 27:17Speaker 2: crap shoot.
- 27:17Speaker 3: No maybe it's screen the screenwriter.
- 27:19Speaker 8: But that's that's a different version of that it is
- 27:22Speaker 8: still writing and I do think you need good writing
- 27:25Speaker 8: from step one to end up with a good film.
- 27:28Speaker 3: But some things just don't make a good movie a
- 27:30Speaker 3: great book does not necessarily make a great movie or.
- 27:32Speaker 8: The approach that you use like to me it's all
- 27:34Speaker 8: in how you decide to do it because you need
- 27:37Speaker 8: to make sure that it works as a movie because
- 27:40Speaker 8: no matter how good the book is you can't come
- 27:42Speaker 8: sit the book in front of the screen and let
- 27:44Speaker 8: people stare at.
- 27:45Speaker 2: It for two hours It has to be.
- 27:48Speaker 8: Able to translate to film and you have to know how.
- 27:52Speaker 2: To do that. Somewhere there is a waiting room for
- 27:55Speaker 2: screenwriters where they're like cycling through the guys who have
- 27:58Speaker 2: just failed. Alright.
- 28:02Speaker 8: Jack's out.
- 28:03Speaker 2: They're probably stealing our ideas.
- 28:06Speaker 8: Every week on this show we come up with great
- 28:09Speaker 8: concepts for a screenplay and someone's going to steal them all.
- 28:12Speaker 3: So I feel like I totally rambled then about James
- 28:16Speaker 3: Cameron and... Well, again, those are... I mean, you're totally right,
- 28:19Speaker 3: but in my head, they're two completely different creatures.
- 28:22Speaker 4: Well, they are.
- 28:23Speaker 3: And also two completely different ways to get to the
- 28:28Speaker 3: final product.
- 28:30Speaker 8: But, again, are we just specifically going by those two people? Because, again,
- 28:36Speaker 8: the Potter isn't even one director. We've shuffled through all
- 28:40Speaker 8: these different directors over the years.
- 28:42Speaker 3: But there's enough material.
- 28:43Speaker 8: You can't... But again, are we going, I mean, Cameron's
- 28:46Speaker 8: writing four sequels to Avatar. So it's like if he
- 28:50Speaker 8: wants to make them, he has in his mind the material.
- 28:53Speaker 2: But that's what I'm saying. That doesn't mean it's going
- 28:55Speaker 2: to be good.
- 28:55Speaker 3: Doesn't mean it's good.
- 28:57Speaker 8: No, but does it mean those Potter books? I mean,
- 29:00Speaker 8: people can watch six and seven and be like, oh,
- 29:03Speaker 8: this is crap. And a million kids will say you're wrong.
- 29:05Speaker 8: But that doesn't mean for everyone it's always going to work.
- 29:09Speaker 8: It can't always be universally accepted.
- 29:13Speaker 2: So I don't know.
- 29:13Speaker 8: Which version do we want to go with here?
- 29:19Speaker 3: I don't know.
- 29:19Speaker 2: See, I feel like.
- 29:20Speaker 8: Cameron, again, if we're at least going down the Cameron road,
- 29:23Speaker 8: I feel like that was almost his downfall as a
- 29:27Speaker 8: filmmaker for me because everything I responded to and really
- 29:32Speaker 8: thought worked well as a movie was before he got
- 29:35Speaker 8: super obsessed with the process and the technology. Because you go,
- 29:40Speaker 8: i mean terminator the first one i think is an
- 29:43Speaker 8: amazing story he came up with this concept followed through
- 29:47Speaker 8: it was great again taking someone else's idea i think
- 29:51Speaker 8: he came up with a great version of someone else's
- 29:54Speaker 8: idea with aliens and come back by Terminator 2. He
- 29:57Speaker 8: reinvents his own story. It's still a great movie. By
- 30:01Speaker 8: the time you get to the next one, he already
- 30:02Speaker 8: is knee deep in how do I go underneath the
- 30:06Speaker 8: ocean and film a movie and we lose him. From
- 30:09Speaker 8: that point on, I don't know that anything got that
- 30:13Speaker 8: good again.
- 30:14Speaker 2: They're impressive.
- 30:15Speaker 8: Technically, they're impressive each time, but I don't know that
- 30:19Speaker 8: anything makes that level of a great story. Again, people
- 30:25Speaker 8: will Still love Titanic.
- 30:27Speaker 2: I just think it's overly long.
- 30:29Speaker 3: Is that because... Like, Terminator was awesome. And then people
- 30:36Speaker 3: kept giving him more and more money. So, if he
- 30:39Speaker 3: didn't have the money, would he still be as clever?
- 30:42Speaker 2: See that?
- 30:42Speaker 8: Well, that's the thing. He wouldn't have the money to
- 30:46Speaker 8: be able to, how can I take this robot to
- 30:48Speaker 8: the bottom of the ocean and film a scene? He'd
- 30:51Speaker 8: be like, alright, well, I've got a pool in my backyard, um...
- 30:55Speaker 8: I guess I'll put my camera in a bag and
- 30:57Speaker 8: start filming this scene. Like, again, being poor makes you creative.
- 31:01Speaker 8: It forces you to come up with some way to
- 31:04Speaker 8: make this work. Where in his scenario, when you have
- 31:08Speaker 8: unlimited funds because your last several movies were a big hit,
- 31:11Speaker 8: suddenly you can be like, okay, I can create a
- 31:13Speaker 8: new technology so I can do whatever I want.
- 31:16Speaker 3: So was Terminator 2 the liquid cop movie?
- 31:20Speaker 6: Yes.
- 31:20Speaker 2: Okay.
- 31:20Speaker 3: And that's the most redneck way to say it.
- 31:24Speaker 8: But it was post abyss. So he was already, he was,
- 31:28Speaker 8: because he was testing that out because in the abyss,
- 31:30Speaker 8: the alien looks like the liquid crop. So that was
- 31:33Speaker 8: like the test market. That's when we started losing him.
- 31:35Speaker 8: he still had his good story in him to finish
- 31:37Speaker 8: telling his Terminator.
- 31:39Speaker 3: But it still was not as good as the first Terminator.
- 31:41Speaker 3: The first Terminator stands on its own.
- 31:43Speaker 8: I think the first Terminator story is more interesting and
- 31:46Speaker 8: original because it's original.
- 31:49Speaker 3: And stands on its own.
- 31:50Speaker 8: And stands on its own. But, again, I think there's
- 31:52Speaker 8: an art form to being able to dive back into
- 31:55Speaker 8: your own material. To me, if you can go back
- 31:59Speaker 8: into your own movie, it's kind of amazing, which is
- 32:01Speaker 8: why I stand by Back to the Future 2. But,
- 32:04Speaker 8: anytime time travel it's rare but again it's rare that
- 32:07Speaker 8: you can go back into your own material and recreate
- 32:10Speaker 8: it and still do something cool and original with it
- 32:13Speaker 8: which is what i think he did with terminator 2 i.
- 32:15Speaker 3: Don't know if i agree with you on terminator 2
- 32:17Speaker 3: but back to the future 2 yes it's really a
- 32:19Speaker 3: cool idea that's an interesting thing to say who took
- 32:23Speaker 3: their movie and made it better yeah and i think
- 32:26Speaker 3: that i don't know back to the future 2 they
- 32:28Speaker 3: don't ever show it But it's really good.
- 32:31Speaker 8: See, that's one of those on that one it's hard
- 32:32Speaker 8: for me to say it's better. Because I think that
- 32:37Speaker 8: first movie is kind of perfect in its own weird
- 32:40Speaker 8: isolated way because it stands on its own.
- 32:42Speaker 2: I can watch Back to the Future forever.
- 32:45Speaker 3: Then if you took Back to the Future 2 you
- 32:46Speaker 3: could still watch it.
- 32:47Speaker 8: You can add to it and it makes a bigger
- 32:49Speaker 8: thing by the time you get to the trilogy and
- 32:52Speaker 8: all of it. But yeah, Back to the Future is
- 32:54Speaker 8: kind of its own thing which is true of Terminator.
- 32:56Speaker 8: Like I think It exists in its own little world
- 32:59Speaker 8: until it gets circled.
- 33:01Speaker 2: Back around by characters from that same world.
- 33:04Speaker 3: What happens to Back to the Future and Terminator?
- 33:07Speaker 2: Collided.
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- 36:38Speaker 5: Such stories as H.G. Wells' War of the Worlds and
- 36:41Speaker 5: Jules Verne's 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea have challenged mankind.
- 36:45Speaker 5: So today, man is successfully probing deep into the mysteries
- 36:49Speaker 5: of the universe. Can he penetrate the greatest mystery of all,
- 36:53Speaker 5: time itself?
- 37:05Speaker 13: It took the creative magic of George Pal and the
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- 37:14Speaker 13: into a world that is yet to be.
- 37:16Speaker 9: Why is it that we usually ignore the fourth dimension?
- 37:19Speaker 2: You see, we can move in the other three. As
- 37:21Speaker 2: the doctor said, up, down, forwards, backwards, sideways.
- 37:24Speaker 4: But when it comes to time, we are prisoners.
- 37:27Speaker 5: Inventor Rod Taylor's breakthrough into the realm of the fourth
- 37:30Speaker 5: dimension is defied by his friend Alan Young.
- 37:33Speaker 3: If that machine can do what you say it can,
- 37:36Speaker 3: destroy it, George, before it destroys you.
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- 41:39Speaker 2: Real quick fact check here to bring us back to
- 41:43Speaker 2: Harry Potter. There was actually only... one screenwriter for all
- 41:49Speaker 2: of the Harry Potter films, except for one of the films,
- 41:53Speaker 2: which was the fifth one, the middle one. Huh.
- 41:57Speaker 3: They had different directors all over the place, though.
- 42:00Speaker 2: Well, the last half was one. The screenwriter remained the same.
- 42:04Speaker 8: We had two that were the same, then we had
- 42:07Speaker 8: one off, one off, and then from that point on,
- 42:09Speaker 8: it switched to one.
- 42:11Speaker 2: It followed the Dumbledore timeline. As we all do.
- 42:16Speaker 3: Old Dumbledore or new Dumbledore?
- 42:18Speaker 8: We're giving up that old AD time and we're all
- 42:21Speaker 8: going with the new Dumbledore timeline. Except for China.
- 42:26Speaker 2: They have their own calendar. They don't go by Dumbledore.
- 42:29Speaker 2: I celebrate the year of the pig.
- 42:31Speaker 8: Year of the pig, year of the Dumbledore. Year of
- 42:35Speaker 8: the Hufflepuff.
- 42:38Speaker 2: Hufflepuff. Hufflepuff. I found my Hufflepuff t-shirt the other day.
- 42:41Speaker 8: Did you?
- 42:42Speaker 2: I was wearing my scarf.
- 42:44Speaker 3: Nobody ever calls me out on it, probably because you're like.
- 42:45Speaker 2: Too, like, aw. Rich got me a Hufflepuff t-shirt. I
- 42:48Speaker 2: wear it religiously.
- 42:50Speaker 3: They got me one too. I don't know where I
- 42:51Speaker 3: put it.
- 42:53Speaker 2: You don't wear it religiously.
- 42:54Speaker 3: I don't know where it is or I'd wear it.
- 42:56Speaker 8: You would know where it was if you weren't such
- 42:58Speaker 8: a Hufflepuff.
- 43:00Speaker 2: That's true. If she weren't puffing so Huffle. Huffle. Such
- 43:05Speaker 2: a Hufflepuff.
- 43:06Speaker 3: Quit puffing so Huffle.
- 43:09Speaker 2: Anyway.
- 43:11Speaker 10: Yeah, I don't know.
- 43:11Speaker 2: I don't know.
- 43:13Speaker 3: There's all kinds of different things, and it makes me
- 43:15Speaker 3: feel bad because I can only talk about big budget things.
- 43:19Speaker 3: In college, I would be like, did you see blah, blah, blah.
- 43:21Speaker 2: Did you see the Ark film?
- 43:23Speaker 3: And now I'm like, I just want to sit and
- 43:24Speaker 3: watch it.
- 43:25Speaker 2: X-Grinder. I saw X-Grinder 4.
- 43:30Speaker 3: X-Grinder 2.
- 43:32Speaker 2: Part 2. Part 2.
- 43:34Speaker 8: Starring Charlot Sheen. He's a French actor. You wouldn't know him.
- 43:40Speaker 3: You wouldn't know him.
- 43:41Speaker 6: You wouldn't know him.
- 43:42Speaker 2: He wears a beret.
- 43:43Speaker 3: So I remember I watched like all these artsy films
- 43:46Speaker 3: in college.
- 43:47Speaker 2: And then, you know. Then what happened? I just watched
- 43:50Speaker 2: stupid shit. You just like watching things explode. It's like
- 43:53Speaker 2: I'd watch Dr.
- 43:54Speaker 3: Phil if Dr. Phil was a movie.
- 43:56Speaker 4: Dr.
- 43:56Speaker 3: Phil, the movie.
- 43:57Speaker 2: No, no thank you.
- 43:59Speaker 3: Judge Judy, the superhero.
- 44:01Speaker 2: Stupefy.
- 44:02Speaker 8: So you just sit at home in the middle of
- 44:04Speaker 8: the day is what it sounds like. You only watch
- 44:08Speaker 8: things from 10 a.m.
- 44:09Speaker 9: To 4.30 p.m.
- 44:10Speaker 2: I get to work from home, dude. Why do I
- 44:13Speaker 2: not get to do this?
- 44:14Speaker 3: I'm a latchkey kid.
- 44:15Speaker 2: Damn it.
- 44:17Speaker 3: No, I catch it in the afternoons when I can.
- 44:20Speaker 3: I take naps with my cat and watch Judge Judy.
- 44:23Speaker 2: I hate it. I hate it. The moments that I
- 44:26Speaker 2: am around during the afternoon, I do not relish. The
- 44:31Speaker 2: Judge Judy or the Dr.
- 44:33Speaker 6: Phil.
- 44:33Speaker 3: I'm interested in the plight of humans. More on Judge Judy,
- 44:37Speaker 3: because that's the plight of humans.
- 44:39Speaker 8: Judge Judy at least has a job and does something.
- 44:43Speaker 2: But Dr.
- 44:44Speaker 8: Phil, I cannot.
- 44:45Speaker 2: I see it the reverse, actually.
- 44:48Speaker 3: Really?
- 44:48Speaker 8: Judge Judy is a symbol of corrupt pseudo-justice.
- 44:58Speaker 3: Sassy Jewish ladies with law degrees.
- 45:01Speaker 2: Well, that's fine, but she is very discriminant in her justice.
- 45:11Speaker 2: Whereas Dr. Phil is full of his mustachioed country colloquialisms.
- 45:21Speaker 2: Complete and utter idiot. Well... So he is compassionate, yet
- 45:29Speaker 2: full of shit at the same time.
- 45:31Speaker 8: And along these lines of the moron society eating this
- 45:36Speaker 8: stuff up, what I watched recently, I kind of, because
- 45:40Speaker 8: I want to get your take on my, which I've
- 45:43Speaker 8: heard about forever.
- 45:44Speaker 3: You rewatched?
- 45:45Speaker 2: I have not. This was the first time I'd seen it.
- 45:47Speaker 8: I like the creator. For some reason, never got around
- 45:51Speaker 8: to it.
- 45:51Speaker 4: Idiocracy?
- 45:52Speaker 2: I watched Idiocracy.
- 45:53Speaker 3: You watched it the other day.
- 45:54Speaker 2: I watched it this week.
- 45:55Speaker 8: And it is so true. And in a way, it's not, again,
- 46:01Speaker 8: I'm trying to be like still my normal film dork.
- 46:04Speaker 8: It's not a great film.
- 46:06Speaker 2: It's not a great film. It's a modern parable. But
- 46:08Speaker 2: it's so impressive the way that it, plays out all
- 46:13Speaker 2: the things that we're already going through.
- 46:15Speaker 8: And it's sad how long it's been already and it's
- 46:18Speaker 8: so much of it's already coming true.
- 46:20Speaker 3: Yeah we just watched it like what last weekend because
- 46:22Speaker 3: you said i don't think i've ever watched the whole
- 46:24Speaker 3: thing i was like oh my god you have to
- 46:25Speaker 3: see it it's a terrible film it's got its problems
- 46:29Speaker 3: it is a great modern parable for what we're living.
- 46:31Speaker 2: Through dac shepherd as the idiot lawyer I like money.
- 46:37Speaker 3: I like girls.
- 46:40Speaker 2: I like money. I agree. I don't know. It is disturbing, yes.
- 46:49Speaker 8: Because it's becoming true. That's the disturbing part is how
- 46:54Speaker 8: much I see parallels.
- 46:56Speaker 2: My favorite part, sadly, is the macho president with the wig.
- 47:04Speaker 8: Who used to be a wrestler who used to be
- 47:06Speaker 8: can you imagine a president formerly on the ww he's
- 47:12Speaker 8: on tv that's crazy also has a wig uh yes
- 47:17Speaker 8: i do and again i was like we are one
- 47:19Speaker 8: shade away from our leader of the free world coming
- 47:22Speaker 8: out and firing a gun in the air to get
- 47:25Speaker 8: us all riled up we're.
- 47:27Speaker 2: Pretty close to that now i mean there's a step
- 47:31Speaker 2: in between where somebody throws a shoe at somebody else
- 47:35Speaker 2: we already had that wait a minute yeah we already had.
- 47:38Speaker 8: That that that has to happen people have thrown shoes
- 47:41Speaker 8: at our president before don't think that's in congress in
- 47:43Speaker 8: congress not not abroad give it time throw a shoe
- 47:48Speaker 8: give a shoe there's that take a.
- 47:51Speaker 12: Shoot give a shoot take a shoot yeah I mean
- 47:54Speaker 12: I thought that it was it's just so funny like
- 47:56Speaker 12: all the corporate sponsorship and like everybody's clothing is like
- 48:00Speaker 12: just nothing but ads well.
- 48:03Speaker 8: I like that the TV is a tiny little window
- 48:05Speaker 8: around the advertising I'm like shit that's almost there now
- 48:10Speaker 8: I'm like there's.
- 48:11Speaker 3: So many things about that movie and I I didn't
- 48:13Speaker 3: like it at the time but I thought well it
- 48:16Speaker 3: has some funny things and as the years have passed
- 48:18Speaker 3: I've been like Oh, my God.
- 48:21Speaker 2: Yes. Now, we could talk about the future some more,
- 48:25Speaker 2: or we could totally dismiss that topic altogether.
- 48:29Speaker 3: And go- Because you think that it's hopeful.
- 48:32Speaker 2: Whoa.
- 48:34Speaker 3: No, I have a- That was a cat stampede through
- 48:37Speaker 3: the hall that just happened.
- 48:38Speaker 2: I have a version of the future that is hopeful
- 48:41Speaker 2: or skeptical- And then a version of the future that
- 48:46Speaker 2: is just totally sad.
- 48:47Speaker 3: Well, and this kind of goes back to the other
- 48:50Speaker 3: podcast we did talking about our shirts that defined like, hey,
- 48:55Speaker 3: you like Star Wars? I like Star Wars, right?
- 48:57Speaker 9: Right.
- 48:57Speaker 3: And now it's like people have their stupid brains.
- 48:59Speaker 2: You like Taco Bell? I like Taco Bell. You'll get
- 49:02Speaker 2: a Taco Bell. Bye, Taco Bell.
- 49:04Speaker 3: And you see people, if I see people in like
- 49:06Speaker 3: a whatever shirt, I'm like, what the fuck? Who would
- 49:09Speaker 3: wear that?
- 49:09Speaker 8: See, I was referencing Demolition.
- 49:11Speaker 2: I can't believe you.
- 49:12Speaker 8: Didn't get that.
- 49:13Speaker 3: I did, but it was fancy.
- 49:14Speaker 8: That was too fancy for me. Taco Bell was fancy.
- 49:17Speaker 8: All fancy is Taco Bell. All restaurants are Taco Bell.
- 49:20Speaker 2: Bell in the future. No, that's the thing.
- 49:24Speaker 8: It's that kind of stuff that I think was frighteningly
- 49:28Speaker 8: accurate because watching in these last, again, we're going through
- 49:32Speaker 8: this same span of time of these last 20.
- 49:35Speaker 2: 25 years of watching.
- 49:36Speaker 8: What television has become and then what everyone consuming television
- 49:43Speaker 8: has become and like i'm looking at these people represented
- 49:47Speaker 8: i'm like that is pretty damn close to where we
- 49:50Speaker 8: are sometimes and where we're headed i feel like like
- 49:55Speaker 8: the stupid people feeding on other stupid people and breeding
- 50:00Speaker 8: and making more.
- 50:01Speaker 2: Stupid people and i'm just like this is this.
- 50:03Speaker 3: Is real like this is what it's The whole thing
- 50:06Speaker 3: in there where they were like, the story of how
- 50:08Speaker 3: people were breeding exponentially. It was like the Onion article
- 50:12Speaker 3: where it was like stupid people breeding exponentially.
- 50:14Speaker 8: Well, it's true.
- 50:16Speaker 2: This brings up a thought that I had while I
- 50:21Speaker 2: was watching the movie. And that is that, and this
- 50:25Speaker 2: is a problem that I had with the film, is
- 50:28Speaker 2: a theory. But I kind of feel as though It
- 50:35Speaker 2: sort of misrepresented the progression of humanity in that That
- 50:41Speaker 2: is something... How are you hopeful? I do want to
- 50:44Speaker 2: hear your version.
- 50:45Speaker 8: Hold on.
- 50:46Speaker 2: That is something that is actually, and this is not hopeful,
- 50:49Speaker 2: it is something that has occurred throughout humanity's history.
- 50:52Speaker 8: We are dinosaurs is what you're saying.
- 50:54Speaker 4: Yes.
- 50:55Speaker 2: We will lead to our own extinction. The same version
- 50:58Speaker 2: of idiocracy occurred in 1000 BC as it did in
- 51:02Speaker 2: 5000 BC. Did it?
- 51:03Speaker 11: Yes.
- 51:03Speaker 2: But did it? There were fewer people. Well, again, just
- 51:12Speaker 2: a side. Numbers aside.
- 51:13Speaker 8: And we've kept going.
- 51:15Speaker 2: Numbers aside.
- 51:15Speaker 3: But I think that we're eventually going.
- 51:17Speaker 2: To start to not keep going. We struggled through.
- 51:19Speaker 8: That's because we're watering our crops with electrolytes.
- 51:22Speaker 2: That dark.
- 51:23Speaker 3: It's got what plants want.
- 51:26Speaker 2: Does it? Does it? It's got what plants need. That's
- 51:31Speaker 2: the only thing I thought was not accurate. Now, granted,
- 51:33Speaker 2: we got to the electrolytes fun comedy. But I'm like,
- 51:36Speaker 2: that society sucks.
- 51:40Speaker 8: Would be drinking Mountain Dew. There is no doubt in
- 51:43Speaker 8: my mind.
- 51:43Speaker 3: They would have no idea what electrolytes are.
- 51:46Speaker 8: The Society of Bros would be downing a lot of
- 51:50Speaker 8: flavors of Mountain Dew. But they wouldn't be worried about electrolytes.
- 51:53Speaker 8: But don't get me wrong, the electrolyte scene is pretty
- 51:55Speaker 8: damn funny.
- 51:56Speaker 2: What was the red Mountain Dew that they had for
- 51:58Speaker 2: a while?
- 51:59Speaker 3: Code Red.
- 51:59Speaker 2: It's still out there, don't worry. Actually, it was pretty good.
- 52:01Speaker 4: Is it? Oh yeah.
- 52:02Speaker 8: It's pretty good.
- 52:03Speaker 2: There was a band, there was a rap group called
- 52:05Speaker 2: Code Red.
- 52:06Speaker 3: I think they're still around because I sometimes see their like,
- 52:10Speaker 3: What is that?
- 52:11Speaker 8: They're drinks at the store.
- 52:13Speaker 2: No, the vehicle, the SUV with the graphic on the side.
- 52:19Speaker 3: Why didn't Digby have one?
- 52:21Speaker 2: Well, I don't know.
- 52:23Speaker 8: Get on that.
- 52:25Speaker 2: Probably because it cost more than $ 5. But now it
- 52:29Speaker 2: would be retro and you could sell your shirts at Walmart.
- 52:32Speaker 2: You could sell your t-shirts.
- 52:33Speaker 4: Yeah, Target.
- 52:33Speaker 8: People would be like, oh man, I totally like this band.
- 52:36Speaker 2: Name one of their songs. Well, I mean... They were cool, dude.
- 52:40Speaker 2: They were next to Code Red.
- 52:41Speaker 3: God, I should have brought this up when we talked
- 52:45Speaker 3: about this on the other podcast. But Paul had a
- 52:49Speaker 3: shirt from Target.
- 52:50Speaker 9: Oh, God.
- 52:50Speaker 3: And it was a Triumph shirt. He had a Triumph
- 52:55Speaker 3: shirt through Triumph.
- 52:56Speaker 2: The band, I'm assuming.
- 52:57Speaker 9: No.
- 52:58Speaker 2: Motorcycles. Oh, the motorcycle. The motorcycle. I was going for
- 53:02Speaker 2: the comic dog myself. This is a great story. This
- 53:05Speaker 2: is a great story.
- 53:05Speaker 3: Bachman-Turner. No, no, this is a great story.
- 53:09Speaker 2: Tell the story.
- 53:10Speaker 3: So we're hanging out. God, we were on vacation.
- 53:12Speaker 2: We were abroad. We were abroad.
- 53:15Speaker 3: No, we weren't.
- 53:16Speaker 13: We were.
- 53:16Speaker 3: Were we abroad?
- 53:17Speaker 2: We were. We were abroad. I was wearing it when
- 53:19Speaker 2: it was fun.
- 53:20Speaker 4: And my mom.
- 53:20Speaker 3: I thought we were at Hilton Head. That's not abroad.
- 53:23Speaker 2: No, no. Keep going.
- 53:25Speaker 3: Just tell the story. That's like the whitest thing someone says.
- 53:27Speaker 2: We were outside the country.
- 53:29Speaker 8: My mom looked at Paul's shirt. And I was wearing.
- 53:31Speaker 2: This shirt that said, What I thought said Triumph Motorcycles.
- 53:36Speaker 3: And my mom said, and luckily we were abroad, so
- 53:39Speaker 3: they would never notice. Mom said, your shirt says Mototercycle.
- 53:47Speaker 2: And it did. It said Mototercycle. Mototercycle.
- 53:52Speaker 8: And where did you get this shirt again? At Target.
- 53:55Speaker 2: Oh, Target.
- 53:56Speaker 8: I had more faith in you.
- 53:57Speaker 2: Sadly, I didn't notice it when I bought it. Spell check, people.
- 54:01Speaker 2: Spell check.
- 54:01Speaker 3: For like a year. What's worse is I looked at
- 54:04Speaker 3: you all the time when you wore it, and I
- 54:06Speaker 3: never said anything.
- 54:06Speaker 2: You were like, man, I like a good on a mototorcycle.
- 54:09Speaker 3: Can I get on the back of your mototorcycle?
- 54:12Speaker 2: It was great.
- 54:13Speaker 3: I love the wind in my hair.
- 54:15Speaker 2: And this was the big selling point. The wand in
- 54:17Speaker 2: my hair. Because I was into motorcycles. You had a Triumph.
- 54:22Speaker 2: I had a Triumph motorcycle. I was like, oh, that's
- 54:25Speaker 2: a cool shirt. And the shirt itself looked... retro and
- 54:31Speaker 2: aged and i was like.
- 54:33Speaker 3: Target eight dollars i'm in i'll take it.
- 54:37Speaker 2: Damn and then i find out as i'm thousands of
- 54:43Speaker 2: miles outside of the country that it doesn't actually say
- 54:46Speaker 2: motorcycle it says mototercycle i mean you are And it
- 54:52Speaker 2: was only because the kerning was off.
- 54:55Speaker 8: Those are fancy British versions of a motorcycle.
- 54:59Speaker 2: It was the kerning. It was the kerning.
- 55:01Speaker 8: It was the kerning.
- 55:02Speaker 2: They had to keep the kerning, so they had to
- 55:05Speaker 2: add an extra O and a T. You don't want
- 55:08Speaker 2: to roll off your kerning. The funniest thing.
- 55:11Speaker 3: Was my mom just looked up and was like, mototurcycle.
- 55:17Speaker 8: Well, she likes the spelling.
- 55:21Speaker 2: I don't worry about those things. That was a funny,
- 55:24Speaker 2: funny moment. Funny moment when I established myself as an
- 55:29Speaker 2: idiot American. No.
- 55:31Speaker 3: Israelis love you.
- 55:33Speaker 8: We also blame a little bit of Target. Probably your
- 55:36Speaker 8: wife as well who.
- 55:36Speaker 3: Didn't catch that. That got past your super smart wife
- 55:40Speaker 3: who didn't realize it.
- 55:41Speaker 2: You're supposed to be here to take care of those things.
- 55:43Speaker 2: My super smart wife did not realize it.
- 55:45Speaker 3: No toter cycle.
- 55:46Speaker 2: Oh, God.
- 55:49Speaker 3: That's good times.
- 55:50Speaker 2: So, yeah.
- 55:51Speaker 8: Anyway, I feel like, so again, what we're saying is
- 55:57Speaker 8: at some point, the idiocracy that we're living in will
- 56:01Speaker 8: completely collapse upon itself.
- 56:04Speaker 2: And then the only hope, really, because you said we're
- 56:06Speaker 2: looking to be hopeful.
- 56:07Speaker 3: Paul is.
- 56:08Speaker 4: I'm not.
- 56:09Speaker 8: Well, I'm being realistic once again.
- 56:11Speaker 11: Me too.
- 56:12Speaker 8: I'm realistic more than anything. When the cockroaches take over,
- 56:17Speaker 8: they will eventually be wearing Matoder cycle shirts as well.
- 56:21Speaker 8: Because eventually their society will also become dumb.
- 56:25Speaker 3: No, it would be cats and raccoons.
- 56:28Speaker 2: Oh, God.
- 56:28Speaker 4: Right?
- 56:29Speaker 2: They take over.
- 56:29Speaker 4: Thumbs.
- 56:30Speaker 2: Thumbs and meows.
- 56:31Speaker 8: And our alien overlords. Raccoons in particular.
- 56:35Speaker 3: There will be the great raccoon alien overlord war.
- 56:37Speaker 2: Don't forget crocodiles.
- 56:39Speaker 8: They were here before us. They'll just hang out.
- 56:41Speaker 2: They have their chance. I feel like they'll eventually, maybe
- 56:45Speaker 2: they'll see it.
- 56:45Speaker 8: This is our chance. We were napping there when we
- 56:49Speaker 8: saw those monkeys come rolling up. We were like, damn,
- 56:52Speaker 8: we really should have jumped on that. So maybe the
- 56:54Speaker 8: next will be like Planet of the Gators and like,
- 56:58Speaker 8: They will be upright and driving cars and mototor cycles
- 57:01Speaker 8: and shit.
- 57:01Speaker 3: Do you think the smell is bad as like a gator?
- 57:03Speaker 2: Mototor cycles.
- 57:03Speaker 8: Mototor cycles, yeah.
- 57:04Speaker 2: Mototor cycles.
- 57:05Speaker 3: Except they got those weird like long torsos.
- 57:07Speaker 8: They got a, you know, as time goes on, they'll
- 57:10Speaker 8: have to get a little bit longer arms so they
- 57:11Speaker 8: can reach the handlebars on the mototor cycles.
- 57:13Speaker 3: Yeah, how come everything on a Richard Scarry book always
- 57:16Speaker 3: like fit humans but was made, had like motor cycles with. Anyway.
- 57:23Speaker 8: All I know is Lowly Worm is the coolest thing ever.
- 57:26Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying?
- 57:27Speaker 8: Because number one, he's named Lowly Worm. That's pretty badass
- 57:33Speaker 8: to go around that being your name and still being
- 57:35Speaker 8: super cool and wearing that hat.
- 57:37Speaker 2: And he drove a car.
- 57:38Speaker 8: Dude ain't got no arms.
- 57:40Speaker 2: Drove a car. Or feet. I don't know what we're
- 57:42Speaker 2: talking about. He had a foot.
- 57:43Speaker 8: He had one foot.
- 57:44Speaker 2: He had one foot?
- 57:45Speaker 4: He had a shoe.
- 57:47Speaker 2: Richard's scary.
- 57:48Speaker 3: You know, like the little.
- 57:50Speaker 8: But yeah, they're always like monkeys driving motorcycles and bears
- 57:54Speaker 8: with a truck. Sedans. So that's the future society we
- 58:00Speaker 8: want is animals to drive things and wear clothes like humans.
- 58:04Speaker 2: Well, I mean, if I have an animal as my chauffeur,
- 58:07Speaker 2: I think that's probably the best scenario that I could
- 58:10Speaker 2: hope for, possibly, really. Really?
- 58:12Speaker 3: Because monkey would drive a clown car.
- 58:14Speaker 2: I would be okay with that as long as she
- 58:16Speaker 2: can get me to the grocery store.
- 58:17Speaker 3: I don't know if she could do that.
- 58:18Speaker 2: If you could pick which animal, what animal would it be?
- 58:22Speaker 2: I mean, yeah. I mean, probably one of my domesticated animals.
- 58:25Speaker 2: You're just picking one of yours that you already know. Yeah.
- 58:27Speaker 2: I mean, you know, I've trained them. They know that
- 58:30Speaker 2: they need to come to me for food.
- 58:31Speaker 8: I'm concerned about my dogs driving me because I've seen
- 58:34Speaker 8: the way. In fact, one in particular, many times throughout
- 58:37Speaker 8: the day, I'll be like, watch your face. Like, Rams
- 58:40Speaker 8: is facing the things all the time.
- 58:42Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 58:42Speaker 8: Him behind the wheel of a vehicle seems really scary.
- 58:45Speaker 2: That's probably not a good idea. Maybe he's got a
- 58:47Speaker 2: vision issue that you need to address.
- 58:48Speaker 8: No, I think he has no concern. Like, he just
- 58:51Speaker 8: doesn't seem to give a rat's ass.
- 58:52Speaker 2: So you're just saying he's dumb.
- 58:55Speaker 4: No.
- 58:56Speaker 8: To me, that's different than just not worrying about it.
- 58:59Speaker 4: Oh.
- 58:59Speaker 8: That's a different setting.
- 59:00Speaker 2: Do you feel as though that that's where we need
- 59:02Speaker 2: to be?
- 59:02Speaker 8: Because he's also gotten to the point, I've noticed, sometimes
- 59:05Speaker 8: I can tell him things.
- 59:07Speaker 2: I'm like, here, this is one.
- 59:09Speaker 8: I'm holding this coffee mug.
- 59:10Speaker 2: Mug.
- 59:10Speaker 8: I'll be like, don't bother running down the stairs because
- 59:13Speaker 8: I'm just going to get coffee. I'll be right back.
- 59:17Speaker 8: And there's times when he looks at me and then
- 59:19Speaker 8: acts like he's going to go and kind of comprehends it,
- 59:23Speaker 8: I'm guessing, and then doesn't. And I'm like, damn, that's
- 59:26Speaker 8: progress because he used to constantly... So I'm getting like
- 59:30Speaker 8: hand signals now and like visual props that he's starting
- 59:33Speaker 8: to comprehend. So I don't think that he's dumb, but
- 59:36Speaker 8: there is a level of like having no regard for
- 59:40Speaker 8: your own personal safety. That again, like toddlers, you know,
- 59:44Speaker 8: it's like, I'm going to walk off the side of
- 59:46Speaker 8: the sofa.
- 59:46Speaker 2: You can't blame them for being easily excitable. Yeah. Which
- 59:51Speaker 2: they also are.
- 59:52Speaker 8: Right, right, right.
- 59:53Speaker 3: I like to think about if like my parents' dog
- 59:56Speaker 3: could drive me to the grocery, that she'd be like, Constantly.
- 1:00:00Speaker 2: And just honking her horn.
- 1:00:01Speaker 8: Waving and honking.
- 1:00:01Speaker 3: And like waving at people.
- 1:00:02Speaker 4: Hi.
- 1:00:03Speaker 2: Driving through houses. I'm driving. And you know.
- 1:00:06Speaker 4: Hi.
- 1:00:07Speaker 2: Gas station pumps.
- 1:00:08Speaker 4: Hi.
- 1:00:08Speaker 3: And then like maybe stop and then like punch it,
- 1:00:10Speaker 3: you know, and she'd be like, hi. So if you're.
- 1:00:13Speaker 4: Green. Red. Green.
- 1:00:16Speaker 15: Red.
- 1:00:19Speaker 3: That's how I want to get to the grocery all
- 1:00:22Speaker 3: of our pets.
- 1:00:23Speaker 2: That does not sound like a relaxing trip to the
- 1:00:27Speaker 2: grocery so if you could.
- 1:00:28Speaker 3: Pick an animal that like or an actor or actress
- 1:00:31Speaker 3: that fit with your dogs who are your dogs.
- 1:00:36Speaker 2: Oh lord.
- 1:00:40Speaker 8: This could take some work that's a good question right.
- 1:00:43Speaker 2: Yeah it's tough I mean People at home could be
- 1:00:47Speaker 2: doing this activity. You guys all work on this yourself.
- 1:00:50Speaker 3: I'd like to know.
- 1:00:50Speaker 2: What is the actor or actress that your animal embodies
- 1:00:57Speaker 2: or resembles?
- 1:00:58Speaker 3: We have Bradley Cooper, the cat, because he looks like
- 1:01:00Speaker 3: Bradley Cooper.
- 1:01:01Speaker 2: His name is Cooper.
- 1:01:03Speaker 3: Actually, it's Bradley Cooper, but he just goes by Cooper.
- 1:01:05Speaker 2: His name is Bradley Cooper, yes, but he does not
- 1:01:07Speaker 2: go by that. This can be like a homework assignment
- 1:01:10Speaker 2: for everyone out there.
- 1:01:11Speaker 3: And why is that?
- 1:01:13Speaker 8: Write in and give us your animals' personalities via film.
- 1:01:18Speaker 3: Actor and actors. Send it to 1245.
- 1:01:23Speaker 8: Just go to moviemeltdown.com. There's an email setting right there.
- 1:01:27Speaker 3: No, but what was the address that everybody, the city
- 1:01:30Speaker 3: that everybody sent things to.
- 1:01:32Speaker 8: In the 80s?
- 1:01:33Speaker 3: Lake Toluca.
- 1:01:34Speaker 2: Or whatever.
- 1:01:35Speaker 3: No, it was like Toluca Lake. Send it to 1111
- 1:01:39Speaker 3: Toluca Lake, California.
- 1:01:41Speaker 8: Don't listen to her.
- 1:01:42Speaker 2: Just email it to me.
- 1:01:43Speaker 3: I don't ever listen to her.
- 1:01:44Speaker 2: Or send it on Facebook.
- 1:01:46Speaker 8: I'm assuming you've already befriended me under.
- 1:01:49Speaker 2: My dumb name.
- 1:01:49Speaker 3: I'll start a fake Facebook account.
- 1:01:52Speaker 2: Your dad's.
- 1:01:52Speaker 8: You're stealing your dad's Facebook account.
- 1:01:54Speaker 3: Stealing my dad's Facebook account. Yeah, we got Bradley Cooper.
- 1:01:58Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't know. And Taylor Swift.
- 1:02:01Speaker 3: Oh, yeah. He says kind of Taylor Swift-ish.
- 1:02:05Speaker 4: But.
- 1:02:08Speaker 2: That real skinny guy from the British office. I can't
- 1:02:12Speaker 2: remember his name.
- 1:02:13Speaker 3: From Hello Ladies?
- 1:02:15Speaker 9: Yes.
- 1:02:15Speaker 2: And the Detectorists.
- 1:02:19Speaker 3: That's a different guy.
- 1:02:21Speaker 2: Well, that's the guy I'm thinking of.
- 1:02:22Speaker 3: That's a different guy. He's also in the Johnny Depp,
- 1:02:27Speaker 3: to bring it full circle, in the Johnny Depp.
- 1:02:30Speaker 2: Pirate movie.
- 1:02:32Speaker 11: Oh, right.
- 1:02:34Speaker 8: Pirates of the Caribbean.
- 1:02:34Speaker 2: That guy. Yeah, you're right. Yeah, he's a pirate. So
- 1:02:39Speaker 2: that's full circle. He's got blacked out teeth.
- 1:02:42Speaker 8: There we're taking a theme park ride and turning it
- 1:02:45Speaker 8: into a movie. How come they haven't turned that back
- 1:02:50Speaker 8: into a theme park ride? Well, they put a bad
- 1:02:52Speaker 8: Johnny Depp model.
- 1:02:54Speaker 3: I thought that was just him.
- 1:02:56Speaker 2: Just loitering about.
- 1:02:57Speaker 3: Yes, like I thought he would loiter.
- 1:02:59Speaker 2: Sometimes he does.
- 1:03:00Speaker 3: I thought he would just go and loiter.
- 1:03:01Speaker 8: They kind of own him at this point. So like
- 1:03:03Speaker 8: when they ask him to come stand there and wave
- 1:03:05Speaker 8: to kids, I guess he has to show up because
- 1:03:07Speaker 8: I think I've seen him have to do that before.
- 1:03:09Speaker 3: I think so. I mean, I think that's really like.
- 1:03:11Speaker 8: But I think that was the only difference was they
- 1:03:13Speaker 8: threw a dummy looking sort of like Jack Sparrow at
- 1:03:17Speaker 8: the front of it. And he's like, hey, kids. And
- 1:03:19Speaker 8: then like you go in, it's the same dumb ride
- 1:03:22Speaker 8: from 40 years ago.
- 1:03:23Speaker 4: But.
- 1:03:24Speaker 8: But we're going the other way. Now we're seeing movies
- 1:03:27Speaker 8: become their own theme parks.
- 1:03:29Speaker 3: And video games.
- 1:03:30Speaker 8: So what movie do you want to become a theme
- 1:03:34Speaker 8: park that isn't already?
- 1:03:36Speaker 2: That is a great question. And one that I have
- 1:03:42Speaker 2: not thought enough about, but I am willing to explore
- 1:03:47Speaker 2: right now.
- 1:03:47Speaker 3: Okay, so I want the original Westworld, not the new
- 1:03:50Speaker 3: sexed up Westworld.
- 1:03:52Speaker 2: The one with Yul Brynner?
- 1:03:54Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 1:03:54Speaker 8: I feel like that's the old way we would have
- 1:03:56Speaker 8: used that one too.
- 1:03:57Speaker 2: Because Richard Benjamin was still getting laid.
- 1:03:59Speaker 8: So that's pretty much what anybody wanted out of Roblox
- 1:04:02Speaker 8: is just something to have sex with. Which is kind
- 1:04:05Speaker 8: of why I keep shopping those Japanese websites as well.
- 1:04:08Speaker 3: Well, and like actually, I don't. Westworld, yes. But to
- 1:04:13Speaker 3: tell you the truth, I preferred Future World because there's
- 1:04:16Speaker 3: this entire like Ren Faire thing. World, so Game of Thrones.
- 1:04:20Speaker 3: Game of Thrones.
- 1:04:20Speaker 8: I don't want the Renfrew.
- 1:04:21Speaker 2: Game of Thrones? That's actually a no-brainer. You'd think it would, actually,
- 1:04:26Speaker 2: by now.
- 1:04:26Speaker 3: I want a Game of Thrones.
- 1:04:27Speaker 2: That's a no-brainer. It's probably going to happen.
- 1:04:29Speaker 3: And I'd go and vote for Karketty. No, wait, that's
- 1:04:32Speaker 3: a different character.
- 1:04:33Speaker 2: You're in Wireworld. Hold on. All right, so I would
- 1:04:36Speaker 2: vote for... Buck Rogers World.
- 1:04:41Speaker 4: What?
- 1:04:42Speaker 11: And.
- 1:04:46Speaker 8: Like the TV?
- 1:04:46Speaker 2: Beyond the Black Rainbow World. No! The TV series Buck Rogers.
- 1:04:50Speaker 3: We live in that world. We live in Black Rainbow.
- 1:04:53Speaker 2: That was for Clint Allen. TV series Buck Rogers?
- 1:04:57Speaker 8: Yeah, TV series about garage doors. Because I'm thinking if
- 1:04:59Speaker 8: we're going that level of Crazy Space Guys, how about
- 1:05:01Speaker 8: the Flash Gordon world?
- 1:05:03Speaker 2: Because the visuals in that movie are.
- 1:05:06Speaker 10: Yeah.
- 1:05:06Speaker 2: Wait a minute. The visuals in that movie are amazing.
- 1:05:09Speaker 4: Absolutely.
- 1:05:10Speaker 8: If we could all kind of live in that world.
- 1:05:12Speaker 3: Which was one with the Cylons and.
- 1:05:15Speaker 2: Battlestar Galactica.
- 1:05:16Speaker 3: Battlestar Galactica.
- 1:05:16Speaker 2: See, that did have enough of a following.
- 1:05:18Speaker 11: Yeah.
- 1:05:18Speaker 8: For a while, you could have.
- 1:05:20Speaker 4: I don't know.
- 1:05:20Speaker 2: We might have to reboot it now. They did.
- 1:05:23Speaker 3: I thought they did.
- 1:05:23Speaker 4: Well, I know.
- 1:05:24Speaker 8: That's what I'm saying. But it's been long enough. It's
- 1:05:27Speaker 8: time to reboot it.
- 1:05:27Speaker 3: I'll tell you the other one.
- 1:05:28Speaker 4: Stargate.
- 1:05:29Speaker 2: But they built on the existing.
- 1:05:31Speaker 8: They did.
- 1:05:32Speaker 2: Thing, and you could redo it. Stargate World.
- 1:05:35Speaker 8: You're the only one that would be there.
- 1:05:36Speaker 2: Actually, I would totally be into Stargate World. The Office.
- 1:05:39Speaker 2: I think that would be totally cool.
- 1:05:41Speaker 4: Oh, God.
- 1:05:41Speaker 8: I love that.
- 1:05:42Speaker 2: Every day. The Office would... happen, actually. There's a suicide
- 1:05:47Speaker 2: that occurs every day in the office world. No!
- 1:05:52Speaker 3: Michael Scott carried on. Everybody can carry on.
- 1:05:54Speaker 2: Michael Scarn.
- 1:05:56Speaker 3: Threat level midnight.
- 1:05:57Speaker 2: Threat level midnight.
- 1:05:58Speaker 3: I would totally go for Game of Thrones.
- 1:06:00Speaker 2: Yeah, Game of Thrones, that would be easy. That would
- 1:06:03Speaker 2: be easy for them to do. I mean, they've already
- 1:06:08Speaker 2: established that they can pull off a dragon breathing fire.
- 1:06:12Speaker 2: That's Easy for a theme park to do. Yeah. So,
- 1:06:17Speaker 2: piece of cake, really.
- 1:06:18Speaker 3: So, wait, what would the rides be?
- 1:06:21Speaker 2: Well, you'd have the White Walker ride, the Giant ride,
- 1:06:26Speaker 2: the Dragon ride.
- 1:06:29Speaker 3: So you'd have, like, the North, you'd have King's Landing.
- 1:06:32Speaker 3: Those would be your two park areas.
- 1:06:34Speaker 2: And then you'd have your Swordmasters of Braavos. You'd take
- 1:06:40Speaker 2: a boat over to Braavos? Well, but there would be
- 1:06:44Speaker 2: some swordplay involved.
- 1:06:46Speaker 3: But what else? There'd be nothing in Braavos.
- 1:06:48Speaker 8: It would just look good.
- 1:06:49Speaker 2: Swordplay. And the faceless man.
- 1:06:53Speaker 5: Men's.
- 1:06:54Speaker 10: Men.
- 1:06:56Speaker 3: Women.
- 1:06:56Speaker 8: Men without hats.
- 1:06:57Speaker 2: People's. People without faces. The faceless thems.
- 1:07:00Speaker 8: The faces.
- 1:07:01Speaker 9: The band.
- 1:07:01Speaker 2: The band. Would be there. They would have their own world.
- 1:07:05Speaker 3: What did you do there?
- 1:07:08Speaker 2: What else could you do? You could do, you know,
- 1:07:12Speaker 2: the Kingsguard of King's Landing. You know, some sort of.
- 1:07:17Speaker 3: No, you'd have like... I'm.
- 1:07:20Speaker 2: Talking about the immersive... Yeah, but say it's just openings.
- 1:07:23Speaker 2: You can't have everything. I'm not just about the rides.
- 1:07:27Speaker 2: I'm about the experience.
- 1:07:28Speaker 8: And I want to see.
- 1:07:30Speaker 2: Immersing yourself in it. I want to see the Mad
- 1:07:34Speaker 2: King get murdered by the Kingsguard.
- 1:07:37Speaker 8: I want to see.
- 1:07:39Speaker 3: Wildlings wildlinging.
- 1:07:41Speaker 2: Yeah, wildlings getting stuff done to them. In ponds. Oh man,
- 1:07:49Speaker 2: I just thought of.
- 1:07:52Speaker 8: Maybe the best one ever because it exists in a
- 1:07:55Speaker 8: time that is now gone. Can we have Warrior's World?
- 1:08:00Speaker 8: Where we all get to join a gang, and you
- 1:08:02Speaker 8: get some sort of cheesy vest to put on.
- 1:08:05Speaker 4: Yes.
- 1:08:05Speaker 3: So if you did that, you could- So.
- 1:08:07Speaker 8: Then you've got merchandising, because you have to buy your vest, obviously.
- 1:08:10Speaker 2: There was a video game for that.
- 1:08:10Speaker 3: You could also do Escape from New York.
- 1:08:11Speaker 2: You could do an Escape from New York one.
- 1:08:13Speaker 8: And then you could do, we've got to make it
- 1:08:14Speaker 8: to Coney Island. We've got a whole, you've got- That
- 1:08:18Speaker 8: video game was pretty- Actually, it was pretty fun.
- 1:08:20Speaker 2: Pretty wicked.
- 1:08:21Speaker 8: Trying to think of cool movie tie-ins. That would be,
- 1:08:23Speaker 8: because it's also in a- a time and place that
- 1:08:27Speaker 8: isn't there anymore.
- 1:08:27Speaker 2: That version of New York no longer exists. We're headed back.
- 1:08:32Speaker 2: We're headed back there. I feel like we're a stone's
- 1:08:38Speaker 2: throw from smashing someone's face in with a brick.
- 1:08:42Speaker 8: When the gators take over, they'll put it back to
- 1:08:44Speaker 8: the old ways, don't you worry.
- 1:08:46Speaker 3: Times Square is still too squeaky clean for that. But yeah,
- 1:08:50Speaker 3: you could do The Warriors, you could do Escape from
- 1:08:52Speaker 3: New York.
- 1:08:54Speaker 2: Then you could.
- 1:08:54Speaker 3: Have Escape from L.A.
- 1:08:56Speaker 4: Oh, God.
- 1:08:57Speaker 5: Please.
- 1:08:58Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah.
- 1:08:58Speaker 10: Plissken.
- 1:08:58Speaker 2: You could, though. Well, though Plissken Be playing basketball Snake
- 1:09:02Speaker 2: Plissken Snake Plissken My dad loved that character Really? Like
- 1:09:07Speaker 2: yeah He was totally fascinated With Snake Plissken Your dad was?
- 1:09:11Speaker 8: Yeah Both versions Your hippie Buddha dad? He was okay
- 1:09:14Speaker 8: with L.A.
- 1:09:15Speaker 2: Version I don't I mean You know He loved the
- 1:09:18Speaker 2: idea Interesting inject Snake Plissken into New York City to
- 1:09:25Speaker 2: retrieve the President of the United States. Or his finger.
- 1:09:31Speaker 8: I love that idea. It is quite a pitch.
- 1:09:34Speaker 2: It really is.
- 1:09:34Speaker 8: How it got made.
- 1:09:35Speaker 2: It was such an 80s thing. I thought that was
- 1:09:39Speaker 2: late 70s. No, it's early. Something like that.
- 1:09:43Speaker 3: What about Oh God, it's the other Kurt Russell movie.
- 1:09:49Speaker 2: Oh, it's a big trouble little China.
- 1:09:51Speaker 3: Big trouble little China.
- 1:09:52Speaker 8: No, I want to be an overboard.
- 1:09:54Speaker 2: Overboard. Overboard the theme park. Actually, I love that idea.
- 1:09:59Speaker 2: I think that's a great idea. You all can live
- 1:10:01Speaker 2: a lie and then like dupe.
- 1:10:03Speaker 8: Someone into being part of your life every day.
- 1:10:07Speaker 2: In some sort of swamp.
- 1:10:08Speaker 4: Oh my God.
- 1:10:09Speaker 2: Taking care of your children. Wait a minute. Swamp multi-child scenario.
- 1:10:14Speaker 2: Where you live in a shack and have to take
- 1:10:17Speaker 2: a shower with a bucket.
- 1:10:19Speaker 3: Entertain this for a moment. What if there was Green
- 1:10:22Speaker 3: Acres World?
- 1:10:23Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
- 1:10:25Speaker 8: Does it come with a Gabor? Yes, you have a pig.
- 1:10:28Speaker 8: Do I get to shack up with a Gabor?
- 1:10:30Speaker 4: Oh, no.
- 1:10:31Speaker 2: I'm sorry.
- 1:10:32Speaker 3: I just said a boar, not a Gabor.
- 1:10:34Speaker 2: No, a Gabor. A Gabor. Hey, look, it's a wild Gabor.
- 1:10:38Speaker 2: Is it psychedelic Green Acres or regular Green Acres?
- 1:10:41Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, it's last season Green Acres.
- 1:10:42Speaker 2: Okay psychedelic really weird like i wound up in paris
- 1:10:47Speaker 2: green acres yeah it's.
- 1:10:49Speaker 3: Or or porky hole but that may have been second season.
- 1:10:51Speaker 8: Because i've been watching a good amount of dude and
- 1:10:55Speaker 8: again there was many a time when i was just
- 1:10:57Speaker 8: like that ava i'm telling you i'll move out to
- 1:11:01Speaker 8: the farm with ava but not jaja but not jaja.
- 1:11:04Speaker 2: She's got her issues wait a minute which one was
- 1:11:06Speaker 2: jaja She was the one.
- 1:11:08Speaker 3: That smacked a cop. If you could have, on one
- 1:11:14Speaker 3: side of the park, the Love Boat Island, and on
- 1:11:18Speaker 3: the other side, Fantasy Island. And you could call it
- 1:11:22Speaker 3: the 1980 Saturday Night Park. The Primetime Park.
- 1:11:26Speaker 2: Okay.
- 1:11:27Speaker 8: Must-see TV before.
- 1:11:27Speaker 2: Which side of the island would I be on?
- 1:11:30Speaker 3: You could do both. You just took the boat.
- 1:11:32Speaker 2: Over to Fantasy Island. Yeah, but which one would I prefer?
- 1:11:35Speaker 2: You're clearly drawing a line.
- 1:11:37Speaker 3: You don't have to pick.
- 1:11:38Speaker 2: You have both. Why would you? Well, what's the question?
- 1:11:41Speaker 3: How about that?
- 1:11:43Speaker 2: How about that? How about that? It's not a question.
- 1:11:47Speaker 2: It's a pitch.
- 1:11:47Speaker 8: It's a pitch. Can I get money to put this together?
- 1:11:50Speaker 3: Can I make it?
- 1:11:51Speaker 8: Because I really want to.
- 1:11:52Speaker 2: Fantasy Island or Love Boat? Boom!
- 1:11:55Speaker 15: You're done!
- 1:11:56Speaker 3: I'm going to start a second music festival. Going on
- 1:12:00Speaker 3: next to Ford Castle. And it's going to be, you take.
- 1:12:03Speaker 2: The boat from the Ford Castle.
- 1:12:06Speaker 3: Over to Indiana to Fantasy Island.
- 1:12:09Speaker 2: Oh, God.
- 1:12:09Speaker 3: Where you're greeted by Mr.
- 1:12:11Speaker 4: Rourke.
- 1:12:13Speaker 2: That's my pitch. You take the love boat to Fantasy Island.
- 1:12:15Speaker 3: Yeah, you take the love boat to Fantasy Island.
- 1:12:17Speaker 8: I mean, I assume that's what you did every Saturday
- 1:12:20Speaker 8: night or whatever that was on. They were one after
- 1:12:23Speaker 8: the other. I assume you got to the Fantasy Island
- 1:12:26Speaker 8: by taking the love boat.
- 1:12:26Speaker 3: And sometimes things were weird.
- 1:12:28Speaker 8: And there would be weird crossover-ish things. So, you know,
- 1:12:31Speaker 8: they'd have the same cast members every other week. Ian Murray.
- 1:12:36Speaker 2: I never... I assumed.
- 1:12:38Speaker 8: Charo was going to show up.
- 1:12:40Speaker 2: Charo would show up.
- 1:12:41Speaker 8: At some point, either place, Charo would show up.
- 1:12:43Speaker 2: Luke on her head.
- 1:12:44Speaker 3: She just, cha-cha-cha-cha-cha.
- 1:12:45Speaker 2: Cha-cha-cha.
- 1:12:46Speaker 8: Cha-cha-cha-cha-cha.
- 1:12:47Speaker 2: She still does that, by the way. I never got in.
- 1:12:51Speaker 2: I mean, I had a passing... interest, I suppose, in
- 1:12:56Speaker 2: the Love Boat and Fantasy Island because we were of
- 1:12:59Speaker 2: that era, but I was more interested in other things.
- 1:13:02Speaker 3: We were kids, though, and Fantasy Island was weird.
- 1:13:04Speaker 2: Yeah, it was weird. It was kind of adult.
- 1:13:07Speaker 3: You'd be like, Love Boat's on. Oh, Fantasy Island's going
- 1:13:10Speaker 3: to be after that.
- 1:13:11Speaker 2: Maybe Mr.
- 1:13:11Speaker 3: Rourke is going to fight the devil.
- 1:13:13Speaker 2: Both of them were weird, truthfully.
- 1:13:15Speaker 3: And they were so weird.
- 1:13:18Speaker 8: Again, Love Boat, even as a kid, seemed dorky. It
- 1:13:22Speaker 8: just seemed very boring and homogenized. But Fantasy Island was
- 1:13:27Speaker 8: at least weird enough that you're like, it's weird and
- 1:13:30Speaker 8: I do like that little dude.
- 1:13:31Speaker 2: He's really cool. I felt the other way. I felt
- 1:13:34Speaker 2: that the Love Boat was kind of like Isaac. Isaac
- 1:13:38Speaker 2: spoke to me. You know, he's the bartender. He talks
- 1:13:42Speaker 2: to everybody.
- 1:13:43Speaker 8: He did speak to you.
- 1:13:44Speaker 2: He got to know all everybody's secrets. I think that
- 1:13:48Speaker 2: was very interesting.
- 1:13:49Speaker 3: So I think I just caught that because it was
- 1:13:52Speaker 3: before Fantasy Island. Fantasy Island was like, weird stuff's going
- 1:13:55Speaker 3: to happen. Like there'd sometimes be some time where they
- 1:13:58Speaker 3: were just like, oh my.
- 1:13:59Speaker 2: God, what a square.
- 1:14:01Speaker 4: All of.
- 1:14:03Speaker 2: These parties. What a square. I don't know. But I
- 1:14:09Speaker 2: was all, I was waiting for whatever that show was
- 1:14:14Speaker 2: that I was waiting for back then.
- 1:14:15Speaker 9: Manimal?
- 1:14:16Speaker 8: That was only on for half a season?
- 1:14:18Speaker 2: See, that was the thing. I would talk about stuff. Like,
- 1:14:20Speaker 2: to me, I thought Manimal was the coolest thing I've
- 1:14:23Speaker 2: ever seen.
- 1:14:24Speaker 3: I told you all, I was obsessed with Bring Him
- 1:14:26Speaker 3: Back Alive.
- 1:14:27Speaker 9: Oh, God.
- 1:14:28Speaker 2: I mean, it's no.
- 1:14:30Speaker 3: I think that's a right one.
- 1:14:31Speaker 2: It's no Matthew Starr, but....
- 1:14:34Speaker 3: So, wait, there were two. There was the one that
- 1:14:37Speaker 3: was set in, like, Shanghai. Yeah. And then there was
- 1:14:39Speaker 3: the one that was set with the Jack Russell Terrier.
- 1:14:42Speaker 3: Was that Bring Him Back Alive?
- 1:14:43Speaker 2: What about Tales of the Gold Monkey? Oh, Tales of
- 1:14:45Speaker 2: the Gold Monkey!
- 1:14:46Speaker 3: That was it! Bring Him Back Alive was the other one.
- 1:14:50Speaker 3: Tales of the Gold Monkey was the one that I
- 1:14:51Speaker 3: loved with Jack, the Jack Russell Terrier.
- 1:14:53Speaker 2: Both being rip-offs of Indiana Jones.
- 1:14:56Speaker 8: Indiana Jones! Because it made money at the theater and
- 1:14:59Speaker 8: they went, how do we... Bank off this money for
- 1:15:03Speaker 8: our dumb TV network.
- 1:15:06Speaker 2: 1985, Otherworld. Do you remember Otherworld?
- 1:15:09Speaker 8: What's the premise?
- 1:15:12Speaker 2: Family goes, takes a vacation to Egypt and takes a
- 1:15:17Speaker 2: tour of the Great Pyramid where they're in the base
- 1:15:20Speaker 2: of the Great Pyramid and they get swindled by their
- 1:15:24Speaker 2: tour guide and they're left in the dark. And then
- 1:15:27Speaker 2: they are transported to another realm because a solar eclipse occurs,
- 1:15:33Speaker 2: I think. Which happens, you know, when you're in the
- 1:15:36Speaker 2: basement of the Alamo. And they are transported to another world.
- 1:15:40Speaker 2: Other world. I don't remember.
- 1:15:42Speaker 8: This, but I'm kind of sold on it already.
- 1:15:45Speaker 2: And sadly, the real big sell is right there at
- 1:15:50Speaker 2: the beginning. And then there's no delivery. There's no delivery
- 1:15:55Speaker 2: at the end. You're like, oh, that's... Tales of.
- 1:15:58Speaker 3: The Gold Monkey.
- 1:15:58Speaker 8: That was the one.
- 1:16:00Speaker 2: The dog. I can see why you like it. I
- 1:16:03Speaker 2: remember the guy with the hat.
- 1:16:06Speaker 8: Everything in that face. I just remember being so, again,
- 1:16:11Speaker 8: I guess because I was so attached to like that
- 1:16:14Speaker 8: Indiana Jones character that like everything that seemed like a
- 1:16:17Speaker 8: ripoff of that just annoyed the hell out of me
- 1:16:20Speaker 8: as a kid.
- 1:16:21Speaker 3: I know, but that one was fun. It had a
- 1:16:22Speaker 3: dog in it.
- 1:16:23Speaker 8: Again, now I might appreciate it, but at the time,
- 1:16:25Speaker 8: like anything, any of your ripoff movies.
- 1:16:27Speaker 3: Bring It Back Alive was the total ripoff.
- 1:16:29Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't know.
- 1:16:32Speaker 8: They were all just trying so hard to cash in
- 1:16:35Speaker 8: on it.
- 1:16:35Speaker 4: Oh.
- 1:16:36Speaker 2: Other world, other world. Let me try to find a
- 1:16:42Speaker 2: image that sort of captures the idea. Oh, God. There's
- 1:16:48Speaker 2: just nothing. Because it was only on for half a season, folks.
- 1:16:53Speaker 2: None of them can.
- 1:16:55Speaker 8: There's some font.
- 1:16:57Speaker 2: It says other world, all right.
- 1:16:59Speaker 3: What font did they use?
- 1:17:00Speaker 2: What were their font choices?
- 1:17:01Speaker 8: It's pretty fancy.
- 1:17:03Speaker 2: Wait a minute.
- 1:17:03Speaker 6: Ew.
- 1:17:04Speaker 4: Ew.
- 1:17:05Speaker 3: Why would I like that dude? He looks like our
- 1:17:07Speaker 3: local newscaster.
- 1:17:08Speaker 8: I mean, he probably became that. Yeah, I do not.
- 1:17:11Speaker 8: It just looks like a Land of the Lost with
- 1:17:14Speaker 8: a little extra money.
- 1:17:15Speaker 2: Let me see it.
- 1:17:16Speaker 8: Absolutely.
- 1:17:16Speaker 2: It was Land of the Lost with extra money.
- 1:17:18Speaker 8: Which I was a sucker when I was a kid
- 1:17:20Speaker 8: for some Land of the Lost.
- 1:17:21Speaker 3: Is that Jeremy Clarkson as the dad?
- 1:17:24Speaker 2: No. Though that's not too far off.
- 1:17:29Speaker 8: None of them can compare to my other attachment as
- 1:17:33Speaker 8: a kid.
- 1:17:33Speaker 2: I would not like that.
- 1:17:34Speaker 3: He looks like our local newscaster.
- 1:17:37Speaker 2: But more masculine. Not mentioning any names.
- 1:17:40Speaker 3: Or what city we're in.
- 1:17:41Speaker 2: The more masculine version of our current newscaster.
- 1:17:43Speaker 3: That I used to work at. Not mentioning any names.
- 1:17:46Speaker 8: None of them can compare to my childhood attachment for Voyagers.
- 1:17:51Speaker 2: Voyagers, yeah.
- 1:17:51Speaker 8: I still feel like it's such a cool premise. How
- 1:17:54Speaker 8: we haven't rebooted and ripped it off to do a
- 1:17:57Speaker 8: new version, I don't know.
- 1:17:59Speaker 3: Was it a movie? The Planet or the movie? It
- 1:18:01Speaker 3: was a TV show?
- 1:18:02Speaker 2: It was a TV show. I don't remember that.
- 1:18:03Speaker 8: And it involved time travel, so I figured by now
- 1:18:06Speaker 8: people would cash in on that.
- 1:18:09Speaker 2: Well, it sort of got lost in the shadow of
- 1:18:14Speaker 2: Quantum Leap. Yeah.
- 1:18:17Speaker 8: I mean, it is that something's wrong with the timeline
- 1:18:19Speaker 8: and we got to fix it idea. Yeah, so yeah,
- 1:18:22Speaker 8: they ripped that off from Voyagers, is what I'm going
- 1:18:24Speaker 8: to say.
- 1:18:25Speaker 3: I did not see Voyagers. I do like Quantum Leap.
- 1:18:27Speaker 3: My grandmother loved Quantum Leap for some reason.
- 1:18:29Speaker 2: Everyone loved Quantum Leap.
- 1:18:31Speaker 3: She also liked Remington Steele.
- 1:18:32Speaker 2: Oh, it's a new story every week. It's a new story.
- 1:18:36Speaker 8: Isn't that how all shows work? It's a new story
- 1:18:38Speaker 8: every week.
- 1:18:39Speaker 3: No.
- 1:18:39Speaker 8: It's supposed to be.
- 1:18:40Speaker 2: No, it's not.
- 1:18:41Speaker 3: Heart to heart is. With an exotic location thrown in.
- 1:18:47Speaker 8: This is a good topic.
- 1:18:50Speaker 2: Shows that you can't just jump in on any episode.
- 1:18:55Speaker 2: Name them. Game of Thrones.
- 1:18:59Speaker 4: Right.
- 1:19:00Speaker 2: Absolutely. You cannot just jump in near the end.
- 1:19:04Speaker 3: You're like, what are they speaking?
- 1:19:06Speaker 2: Heart to heart, obviously. You can jump in on any episode.
- 1:19:09Speaker 8: They're husband and wife.
- 1:19:10Speaker 2: They've got an established relationship.
- 1:19:12Speaker 8: It also depends if it was set up to be
- 1:19:15Speaker 8: one of those that more or less wraps up the basic.
- 1:19:18Speaker 2: Story every week.
- 1:19:20Speaker 3: Or every episode, yeah.
- 1:19:21Speaker 2: And then the next week.
- 1:19:22Speaker 8: So there are through lines that kind of continue and
- 1:19:24Speaker 8: grow a little bit over the seasons.
- 1:19:26Speaker 3: Wait, what was the question? What can you or can't you?
- 1:19:28Speaker 2: What shows can't do that? What shows cannot?
- 1:19:33Speaker 15: Oh, my God.
- 1:19:34Speaker 8: Dallas?
- 1:19:34Speaker 3: Are we going to do, like, throwback?
- 1:19:36Speaker 5: Right.
- 1:19:36Speaker 2: Well, it doesn't matter.
- 1:19:37Speaker 3: Falcon Crest? Dynasty? Why am I doing 80s, like, nine
- 1:19:41Speaker 3: times soap opera?
- 1:19:42Speaker 2: Dynasty is a current show right now.
- 1:19:44Speaker 8: Thank you very much.
- 1:19:45Speaker 2: Any soap opera-esque show?
- 1:19:48Speaker 8: Well, at the same time, isn't that what soap operas
- 1:19:51Speaker 8: were originally built on? The daytime version, which was you
- 1:19:55Speaker 8: just kind of halfway check in while you're doing the
- 1:19:58Speaker 8: dishes and you can be like, oh yeah, I remember her.
- 1:20:01Speaker 2: She's the one that's hooking up with that guy. I
- 1:20:03Speaker 2: know what she did. I'm watching her. That's why the
- 1:20:06Speaker 2: old soap operas.
- 1:20:06Speaker 8: Really, usually you didn't move the plot forward for that week.
- 1:20:12Speaker 2: Because you could pick up any day.
- 1:20:13Speaker 3: Christmas could take a month and a half.
- 1:20:15Speaker 8: Yeah, you could pick up any day of the week,
- 1:20:17Speaker 8: and they're kind of still going through the same scene.
- 1:20:19Speaker 8: And then the next week, we'd move a little forward,
- 1:20:22Speaker 8: but that way you didn't have to actually catch every episode.
- 1:20:26Speaker 2: You'd still be able to see what was going on.
- 1:20:28Speaker 2: But there were exceptions to that idea in the 80s
- 1:20:33Speaker 2: and 90s. Obviously, General Hospital.
- 1:20:36Speaker 8: When really important things happen, like remember when they were
- 1:20:40Speaker 8: going to freeze Port Charles with a giant freeze ray?
- 1:20:43Speaker 4: What?
- 1:20:43Speaker 8: That's hardcore, man.
- 1:20:46Speaker 2: I wish I was making that up, but that's a
- 1:20:48Speaker 2: real thing.
- 1:20:49Speaker 3: I'd love to ask my aunt if she remembers that.
- 1:20:52Speaker 2: She will. Poor Charles.
- 1:20:54Speaker 4: Oh, my God.
- 1:20:55Speaker 3: How many weird pop stars did they create out of
- 1:20:58Speaker 3: 80 soap opera dudes?
- 1:21:00Speaker 8: Other than John Stamos, because I only know the one.
- 1:21:04Speaker 8: Jack Wagner doesn't count.
- 1:21:05Speaker 3: Oh, really?
- 1:21:06Speaker 2: What about... Oh, God. He was in a movie. Rick Springfield?
- 1:21:11Speaker 2: Rick Springfield. Riff Trax did the riff on... With the
- 1:21:16Speaker 2: kid where they're in the future military zone with the
- 1:21:22Speaker 2: thing with the gun and the thing. You know, that one.
- 1:21:26Speaker 2: That one. You know what I'm talking about.
- 1:21:29Speaker 3: That one guy, but not that guy.
- 1:21:31Speaker 2: It's like laser zone or something stupid like that. I
- 1:21:37Speaker 2: don't know. I've probably seen Laser Zone. I'll look it up.
- 1:21:39Speaker 3: It's a weird thing that they created a few. The
- 1:21:43Speaker 3: fact that more than.
- 1:21:43Speaker 8: One- Did they create them or did it just happen
- 1:21:46Speaker 8: because everybody that- That just became a stepping stone. They're
- 1:21:51Speaker 8: all guys that are like, I want to be a
- 1:21:52Speaker 8: rock star.
- 1:21:54Speaker 2: But I need to get my face out there so
- 1:21:56Speaker 2: people can see me. So I'm going to go on
- 1:21:57Speaker 2: General Hospital?
- 1:21:58Speaker 8: So I'm going to go on General Hospital. I mean,
- 1:22:01Speaker 8: soap operas kind of were a stepping stone for actors
- 1:22:03Speaker 8: in general. So I think the 80s just became that
- 1:22:06Speaker 8: weird spin of like.
- 1:22:08Speaker 2: And we can get these musicians in there.
- 1:22:09Speaker 8: And then they'll already have a built-in audience of weird
- 1:22:14Speaker 8: girls that come home from high school.
- 1:22:15Speaker 2: And now suddenly you're the dreamy guy they want on
- 1:22:17Speaker 2: their poster.
- 1:22:18Speaker 3: I remember as a kid, I got confused because I
- 1:22:20Speaker 3: liked Tom Waits, but John Waits.
- 1:22:24Speaker 2: Those are two very different sounds, by the way.
- 1:22:28Speaker 3: There was something and they were like, a new song
- 1:22:30Speaker 3: by John Waite. And I was like, I like Tom Waite.
- 1:22:33Speaker 8: Tom Waite ain't missing you at all.
- 1:22:35Speaker 3: But why didn't he do a cover of that?
- 1:22:36Speaker 2: I kind of want to see that cover. Why didn't he?
- 1:22:38Speaker 2: I ain't missing you.
- 1:22:44Speaker 8: I kind of would buy that right now.
- 1:22:47Speaker 2: Right now I would buy that.
- 1:22:49Speaker 11: Always.
- 1:22:51Speaker 3: Yeah, that'd be awesome. Please, Tom Waits, please do a
- 1:22:55Speaker 3: cover of Missing You by John Waite.
- 1:22:57Speaker 2: I love that guy.
- 1:22:59Speaker 3: So, we watched Ballad of Buster Scruggs when it came out.
- 1:23:04Speaker 3: Have you caught that yet?
- 1:23:05Speaker 2: We've done an entire episode.
- 1:23:07Speaker 3: Was I here for that?
- 1:23:08Speaker 4: No.
- 1:23:09Speaker 2: I like that you're not sure.
- 1:23:11Speaker 3: You were not present.
- 1:23:15Speaker 2: His was awesome.
- 1:23:17Speaker 3: I think his was so fascinating because everything was so...
- 1:23:21Speaker 3: so dire in all of those, but his was like
- 1:23:23Speaker 3: the American dream.
- 1:23:24Speaker 8: That's what I'm saying. Like that became my favorite one
- 1:23:27Speaker 8: by far.
- 1:23:28Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 1:23:29Speaker 8: And because it was so like kind of, Like, the
- 1:23:34Speaker 8: little world.
- 1:23:35Speaker 3: And it was.
- 1:23:35Speaker 2: Even though, that's what I said at the die.
- 1:23:37Speaker 8: I was like, even though he was busy, like, looking
- 1:23:39Speaker 8: for paradise. I'm like, look around you, dude.
- 1:23:43Speaker 10: Like, this is it.
- 1:23:44Speaker 2: This is it.
- 1:23:45Speaker 3: Like, you're like, you look at when they, like, go
- 1:23:48Speaker 3: into his segment. And you're like, whoa, where is that?
- 1:23:50Speaker 2: It's like a Disney.
- 1:23:51Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 1:23:51Speaker 2: Like, it's like animated.
- 1:23:53Speaker 15: Yeah.
- 1:23:54Speaker 8: Squirrels are going to fix your hair, Tom Waits.
- 1:23:56Speaker 3: It was amazing. It was beautiful. But then his was like,
- 1:23:59Speaker 3: it totally is like the American dream. Like, it gets,
- 1:24:02Speaker 3: he gets crazy. What you think is killed, and he
- 1:24:05Speaker 3: still comes back.
- 1:24:06Speaker 8: He just hit guts. He didn't hit anything important.
- 1:24:08Speaker 3: He didn't hit anything important.
- 1:24:10Speaker 2: The journey absolution.
- 1:24:14Speaker 4: Oh.
- 1:24:15Speaker 2: With Mario Lopez.
- 1:24:16Speaker 3: Mario Lopez.
- 1:24:17Speaker 8: Okay, that doesn't count. It's Mario Lopez.
- 1:24:19Speaker 2: That's what I was thinking.
- 1:24:20Speaker 3: Did he have a pop career?
- 1:24:21Speaker 2: No.
- 1:24:23Speaker 12: No.
- 1:24:23Speaker 2: He wished he did. No, but, you know, it was
- 1:24:26Speaker 2: one of those... I'm in a gray area. I don't
- 1:24:30Speaker 2: know what I am. I'm going to transition into film.
- 1:24:33Speaker 8: Which is what led to his career now.
- 1:24:35Speaker 2: I don't know what to do with myself. What if
- 1:24:37Speaker 2: I just host stuff good enough? Like, let's do a
- 1:24:40Speaker 2: B movie that I think is going to be an
- 1:24:43Speaker 2: A movie.
- 1:24:44Speaker 3: But it was really a D movie. D.
- 1:24:47Speaker 2: And someday I'll just stand in front of him. What
- 1:24:49Speaker 2: does he do now?
- 1:24:50Speaker 8: He's a host.
- 1:24:51Speaker 4: Of what?
- 1:24:52Speaker 2: He hosts entertainment shows now. Entertainment Tonight?
- 1:24:55Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 1:24:55Speaker 3: Oh, like shows talking about other things?
- 1:24:57Speaker 2: Yeah. Other people doing real things.
- 1:25:01Speaker 8: Again, I'm sure he's making a good amount of money
- 1:25:03Speaker 8: now because he also has his radio show.
- 1:25:05Speaker 2: What? Yeah.
- 1:25:07Speaker 8: He has a long-running freaking DJ job. And on top
- 1:25:11Speaker 8: of that, has his hosting show that he's been doing
- 1:25:14Speaker 8: for years now.
- 1:25:15Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 1:25:16Speaker 8: You never know sometimes mario lopez rolls.
- 1:25:20Speaker 3: Good being a mark maron isn't he supposed to be like.
- 1:25:23Speaker 2: Oh yeah tonight mark maron is interviewing crusty the clown.
- 1:25:27Speaker 11: Oh god.
- 1:25:29Speaker 2: I'm not sold on this marion character why.
- 1:25:31Speaker 8: Do you not like mark maron because people give him
- 1:25:34Speaker 8: money yeah he gets tons of funding to do a
- 1:25:39Speaker 8: podcast how can i not be annoyed he's like.
- 1:25:43Speaker 2: He needs a therapist.
- 1:25:45Speaker 3: He does.
- 1:25:46Speaker 2: I think he has a therapist.
- 1:25:48Speaker 8: I'm sure he has a therapist. But he needs a
- 1:25:51Speaker 8: better one.
- 1:25:52Speaker 3: Well, he's my therapist. I like to think of Mark
- 1:25:54Speaker 3: Maron as my therapist.
- 1:25:56Speaker 2: You know, I think he does a good job. I
- 1:25:58Speaker 2: think he does a good job.
- 1:25:59Speaker 3: I love my therapist.
- 1:26:00Speaker 8: He died.
- 1:26:00Speaker 3: So now I've got Mark Maron.
- 1:26:01Speaker 2: This is why you're so unstable. At the very least,
- 1:26:05Speaker 2: he seems to be honest, which is more than I would...
- 1:26:12Speaker 2: hope for most therapists uh public figures.
- 1:26:17Speaker 8: Yeah but it's a podcast that changes all the rules
- 1:26:21Speaker 8: it kind of does at this point absolutely i totally
- 1:26:24Speaker 8: agree but you know i feel like he's coming from
- 1:26:27Speaker 8: a place also getting successful usually that means you have
- 1:26:30Speaker 8: to totally change things.
- 1:26:32Speaker 3: I don't know though i guess interviews are good and
- 1:26:35Speaker 3: i like that they're long like we.
- 1:26:37Speaker 2: Do You're right. That's what I'm saying.
- 1:26:38Speaker 8: It's a different format.
- 1:26:39Speaker 2: This is a man who has interviewed a former president. Absolutely.
- 1:26:44Speaker 2: There is a business side of this that you have
- 1:26:47Speaker 2: to accommodate. But that said, I feel like he's coming
- 1:26:52Speaker 2: from a place of, you know, I am an addict
- 1:26:56Speaker 2: and I have gone through a transition and I am appreciative.
- 1:27:03Speaker 8: I think it's still because it's in this different format, though,
- 1:27:07Speaker 8: that he has the freedom to do that. Like, if
- 1:27:09Speaker 8: he became.
- 1:27:09Speaker 2: Meaning? What do you mean?
- 1:27:11Speaker 8: Well, if he became sort of successful as a TV
- 1:27:15Speaker 8: talk show host, I still don't think... I think you'd
- 1:27:18Speaker 8: have to sand those edges off. I think it would
- 1:27:20Speaker 8: have to be.
- 1:27:21Speaker 2: A little more generic. It would be a.
- 1:27:23Speaker 8: Little more like your normal talk shows. Like, even your,
- 1:27:27Speaker 8: you know... Yeah, your old school Barbara Walters interviews kind
- 1:27:31Speaker 8: of got serious sometimes, but... I wouldn't say they ever
- 1:27:35Speaker 8: edged their way into edgy the way that weird podcasts
- 1:27:38Speaker 8: do sometimes.
- 1:27:39Speaker 2: To bring ourselves full circle. For good or bad. To
- 1:27:41Speaker 2: bring ourselves full circle. I don't think that that's the
- 1:27:46Speaker 2: world that we live in anymore. In that his claim
- 1:27:50Speaker 2: to fame is a IFC show that made him... I mean,
- 1:27:55Speaker 2: his podcast was popular, sure, but his IFC show kind
- 1:27:59Speaker 2: of really elevated him into the current lexicon yeah where
- 1:28:06Speaker 2: we say oh marin or some of us who do
- 1:28:10Speaker 2: but you know i that that aside i i don't
- 1:28:13Speaker 2: think the rules that applied 10 years ago apply to
- 1:28:17Speaker 2: oh no i think it is definitely different he's definitely
- 1:28:21Speaker 2: a he's breaking new ground or broke new ground but.
- 1:28:26Speaker 8: Again i think about five years could have only done
- 1:28:28Speaker 8: that because it was the the i mean the internet
- 1:28:31Speaker 8: in general and then what became podcast was essentially the
- 1:28:35Speaker 8: Wild West at that point.
- 1:28:37Speaker 4: You're right.
- 1:28:37Speaker 2: You could do whatever you want. You're right.
- 1:28:39Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 1:28:39Speaker 2: That's wild. this new format.
- 1:28:40Speaker 8: That's why he became who he did.
- 1:28:42Speaker 2: You're right.
- 1:28:42Speaker 8: That's why he latched on.
- 1:28:43Speaker 2: You're right.
- 1:28:44Speaker 3: But you can't fault him for finding his way there.
- 1:28:47Speaker 3: I mean, he's a funny dude. He's a smart dude.
- 1:28:49Speaker 2: And he had... I don't just like him, really. I'm
- 1:28:52Speaker 2: just bitter.
- 1:28:53Speaker 3: I actually did not like him. When he was a comic,
- 1:28:55Speaker 3: I did not like him.
- 1:28:56Speaker 8: I still don't know that he's overly funny as a comic,
- 1:28:59Speaker 8: but he did find a good place for himself. He
- 1:29:04Speaker 8: is good at talking to people.
- 1:29:06Speaker 2: I feel like.
- 1:29:06Speaker 3: Yeah, I think his interviews are very good and he
- 1:29:09Speaker 3: gets people to.
- 1:29:10Speaker 2: What I enjoy about him, just to sort of put
- 1:29:14Speaker 2: some perspective on it from my point of view, is
- 1:29:17Speaker 2: that the.
- 1:29:20Speaker 2: His personal journey and how that has affected his interviews
- 1:29:26Speaker 2: with other people, it tends to be, not always, but
- 1:29:32Speaker 2: tends to be a place of humility and one where
- 1:29:37Speaker 2: he is... Not at all.
- 1:29:39Speaker 4: Really?
- 1:29:40Speaker 2: You don't think that he has humility?
- 1:29:42Speaker 8: No, no, no, no.
- 1:29:43Speaker 3: I think that he is a people pleaser.
- 1:29:46Speaker 2: I think that also... God be a people pleaser and
- 1:29:49Speaker 2: still have some humility.
- 1:29:50Speaker 3: And he's good.
- 1:29:51Speaker 2: And by that I mean that he has learned his
- 1:29:56Speaker 2: relative amount of humility. Not necessarily that he is humble
- 1:30:01Speaker 2: by our standards, but that he has gone through a
- 1:30:04Speaker 2: journey for himself.
- 1:30:05Speaker 8: I think he also used that journey as a foot
- 1:30:09Speaker 8: in the door in a way that put him way
- 1:30:11Speaker 8: in front of other people. And I think.
- 1:30:13Speaker 2: Sure.
- 1:30:14Speaker 8: And I will give him credit for that, but at
- 1:30:16Speaker 8: the same time, he... You know, for the reason that
- 1:30:19Speaker 8: he jumped in front of all these other people that
- 1:30:22Speaker 8: were attempting to do the same type of show, only
- 1:30:25Speaker 8: he knew all these people to bring on his guests.
- 1:30:29Speaker 8: So that gave him... a really big advantage to people
- 1:30:33Speaker 8: that have no connection to all these big people.
- 1:30:36Speaker 2: So when he started, he already had an in. He
- 1:30:38Speaker 2: already had a leg in. And he already knew them all.
- 1:30:42Speaker 2: Because he was already an established persona. I was going
- 1:30:45Speaker 2: to say, they already had connections.
- 1:30:47Speaker 8: So he would be sitting there, even in the early days,
- 1:30:50Speaker 8: talking about, well, 25 years ago when we were in
- 1:30:53Speaker 8: the comedy scene together.
- 1:30:55Speaker 2: But can we hold it against him? But that's what
- 1:30:57Speaker 2: I was going to say.
- 1:30:57Speaker 8: I will give him both ends. I will be like,
- 1:31:00Speaker 8: number one, he jumped ahead of everybody because of that
- 1:31:02Speaker 8: and he used that to his advantage.
- 1:31:04Speaker 3: Which is actually smart.
- 1:31:05Speaker 8: Number two, he used that to his advantage because he
- 1:31:07Speaker 8: earned his way there in another field.
- 1:31:10Speaker 2: So he really did log in all that time.
- 1:31:13Speaker 8: He did the work. In the comedy shop to get
- 1:31:16Speaker 8: himself to the point where then he could use that.
- 1:31:18Speaker 3: It wasn't like he was somebody that's parents that had
- 1:31:21Speaker 3: been involved in the comedy scene and they knew the people.
- 1:31:24Speaker 2: So Pauly Shore?
- 1:31:26Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 1:31:26Speaker 2: Yeah, he didn't just show up and say, hey, I've
- 1:31:30Speaker 2: got a microphone.
- 1:31:32Speaker 3: I think of him as my therapist because I feel
- 1:31:34Speaker 3: like he strikes on things that are very close to
- 1:31:37Speaker 3: home with me. And I think listening to him talk
- 1:31:40Speaker 3: to people Is, like, the way that I approach things
- 1:31:42Speaker 3: where I'm, like, not shy, but I'm pretty, like, quiet.
- 1:31:48Speaker 3: You know, I'm more of an observer, but if I
- 1:31:50Speaker 3: can get people to talk about themselves, which people love
- 1:31:53Speaker 3: to do, then it, like, helps that process.
- 1:31:56Speaker 8: I just need a platform and then I don't shut up, obviously.
- 1:32:00Speaker 10: Well, I mean.
- 1:32:02Speaker 2: In the real world, I don't talk to anyone.
- 1:32:05Speaker 8: On autopilot.
- 1:32:05Speaker 2: I need a platform.
- 1:32:06Speaker 3: I'm talking about having to do art shows and things.
- 1:32:09Speaker 3: That's very much a thing. I'm comfortable here.
- 1:32:11Speaker 2: This is us.
- 1:32:11Speaker 3: I'm married to you for how many years now?
- 1:32:15Speaker 2: Wait, when did this happen? 14.
- 1:32:17Speaker 3: It's going to be 14 years. I've known you for
- 1:32:19Speaker 3: 15 years.
- 1:32:20Speaker 2: About as long. I don't know.
- 1:32:22Speaker 10: Yeah.
- 1:32:22Speaker 3: It's very comfortable, but when I have to do things
- 1:32:24Speaker 3: where I'm talking to people or presenting myself, the easiest
- 1:32:28Speaker 3: thing to do is to get that person to talk
- 1:32:29Speaker 3: about themselves and Keep it going.
- 1:32:33Speaker 2: But there are other personalities online or broadcast that do that,
- 1:32:41Speaker 2: but he does it in a particular way that speaks
- 1:32:44Speaker 2: to you.
- 1:32:44Speaker 3: He's very good at that, and the way he does
- 1:32:46Speaker 3: it speaks to me. But I guess what I'm saying
- 1:32:47Speaker 3: is I think that it's a thing he's hiding behind.
- 1:32:49Speaker 2: Absolutely.
- 1:32:49Speaker 3: But I think that.
- 1:33:00Speaker 2: And I'm just speaking, I've been listening to a lot
- 1:33:02Speaker 2: of Marin lately, but I think what it is for
- 1:33:06Speaker 2: me is that, you know, it is that personal journey.
- 1:33:10Speaker 2: It is who he is and the prism that he
- 1:33:14Speaker 2: is reflecting all of this stuff through.
- 1:33:16Speaker 3: Yeah, whatever tool he's using is genuine.
- 1:33:18Speaker 2: I guess that's what I. Yes, it doesn't come across
- 1:33:21Speaker 2: as phony, although there are mechanisms of business that he
- 1:33:26Speaker 2: has to employ.
- 1:33:27Speaker 3: Right. So anyway, what do you think of Mark Maron?
- 1:33:31Speaker 8: Here's my question, and this will be your way to
- 1:33:35Speaker 8: wrap it all up and tie it in.
- 1:33:36Speaker 2: We have to wrap it up.
- 1:33:38Speaker 8: For this week. Is this where I ask you to leave?
- 1:33:40Speaker 2: No, no.
- 1:33:41Speaker 8: This is what I ask you. Would you be willing
- 1:33:44Speaker 8: to go to Maron Land? The theme park that is
- 1:33:49Speaker 8: built around the weirdness inside of Mark Maron's head. Well,
- 1:33:53Speaker 8: I mean, there's... There's going to be cats everywhere. There's
- 1:33:56Speaker 8: separate areas.
- 1:33:57Speaker 3: If there's cats everywhere, yes.
- 1:33:58Speaker 2: So there's cat land. Cat land. There's addiction land. Diction? Addiction.
- 1:34:03Speaker 3: Oh, I thought you said diction.
- 1:34:04Speaker 2: No. Addiction land. There's Jewish land.
- 1:34:07Speaker 4: Oh, yeah.
- 1:34:07Speaker 3: Well, it's kind of like our house, but without the addiction.
- 1:34:11Speaker 8: There's like the back room of a down and out
- 1:34:13Speaker 8: comedy store.
- 1:34:14Speaker 2: Right, right. There's 90s comedy room.
- 1:34:18Speaker 3: Beards, glasses, gray hair.
- 1:34:20Speaker 2: I mean, that's my life. Well, that's what you get
- 1:34:22Speaker 2: at the gift shop. I mean, you know. Judaism.
- 1:34:27Speaker 3: Jewishness.
- 1:34:28Speaker 4: Jewiness.
- 1:34:29Speaker 2: Jewiness.
- 1:34:31Speaker 4: Jewiness.
- 1:34:31Speaker 3: Cats.
- 1:34:32Speaker 2: Yeah, cats. I'd go there.
- 1:34:34Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 1:34:35Speaker 2: All right.
- 1:34:35Speaker 4: I would.
- 1:34:36Speaker 3: I feel like I'm there, but not in Glendale.
- 1:34:37Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm kind of there already.
- 1:34:39Speaker 3: We're kind of there, but not in Glendale.
- 1:34:41Speaker 2: All right. I just don't have.
- 1:34:42Speaker 8: Where do you move to?
- 1:34:43Speaker 2: You move out of Glendale. I.
- 1:34:46Speaker 2: The difference is that we experience winter here.
- 1:34:48Speaker 9: Yeah.
- 1:34:49Speaker 2: Whereas they just have rain.
- 1:34:50Speaker 3: Well, we have cats and jewiness.
- 1:34:53Speaker 2: A plenty. Cats, jewiness, no addiction.
- 1:34:56Speaker 3: Therapy. Though my therapist died.
- 1:34:58Speaker 2: I need therapists.
- 1:35:00Speaker 3: I had a good one.
- 1:35:01Speaker 2: I could use a therapist, actually.
- 1:35:03Speaker 3: He was really sweet and cool. And his wife grew up,
- 1:35:08Speaker 3: and his wife's parents were laborers. leaders in New York
- 1:35:13Speaker 3: in the 60s, so he had met Bob Dylan.
- 1:35:15Speaker 2: Yes, he knew Bob Dylan.
- 1:35:17Speaker 3: He was an awesome dude.
- 1:35:18Speaker 8: This is your therapist.
- 1:35:19Speaker 3: My ex-therapist.
- 1:35:20Speaker 2: Ex-therapist who died.
- 1:35:21Speaker 8: This sounds like a pretty good premise for a sitcom, actually.
- 1:35:24Speaker 8: It would be a great movie, actually.
- 1:35:26Speaker 3: I think a sitcom. I think this is one of
- 1:35:27Speaker 3: those things of knowing your time limits.
- 1:35:29Speaker 2: It would be more of a sitcom.
- 1:35:32Speaker 8: 22 minutes.
- 1:35:33Speaker 3: Like a British sitcom.
- 1:35:37Speaker 2: Like a drama series with Benedict Cumberbatch.
- 1:35:39Speaker 3: Oh my god, we need to start The third because
- 1:35:44Speaker 3: we started re-watching a particular British series that we have
- 1:35:49Speaker 3: to touch on.
- 1:35:50Speaker 8: I'm sure we can get back to that next time.
- 1:35:54Speaker 3: Have you watched League of Gentlemen?
- 1:35:56Speaker 8: Haven't we covered this already?
- 1:35:57Speaker 2: Oh my gosh.
- 1:35:58Speaker 8: I believe we have.
- 1:35:59Speaker 3: But the second time around it gets weirder.
- 1:36:02Speaker 2: It's very weird. League of Gentlemen. All right.
- 1:36:06Speaker 8: With that, I think we're rounding this week out. So
- 1:36:10Speaker 8: thank you for tolerating this conversation and everything it entailed. Otherwise,
- 1:36:17Speaker 8: that about does it. We will return next time. Same
- 1:36:19Speaker 8: key creed. Thanks for listening.
- 1:36:40Speaker 2: Every time I.
- 1:36:41Speaker 11: Think of you I always catch my breath And I'm
- 1:36:49Speaker 11: still standing here And you're miles away And I'm wondering
- 1:36:55Speaker 11: why you left And there's a storm that's raging Through
- 1:37:03Speaker 11: my frozen heart tonight I hear your name In certain
- 1:37:10Speaker 11: circles And it always makes me smile I spend my
- 1:37:17Speaker 11: time Thinking about you And it's almost driving me wild
- 1:37:25Speaker 11: And there's a heart that's breaking Down this long distance
- 1:37:32Speaker 11: line tonight I ain't missing.
- 1:37:35Speaker 9: You at all.
- 1:37:40Speaker 15: Since you've been gone, away I ain't missing you No
- 1:37:49Speaker 15: matter what I might say There's a.
- 1:37:54Speaker 11: Message in the wire And I'm sending you this signal
- 1:38:00Speaker 11: tonight You don't know how desperate I've become And it
- 1:38:08Speaker 11: looks like I'm losing this fight In your world I
- 1:38:15Speaker 11: have no meaning Though I'm trying hard to understand And
- 1:38:23Speaker 11: it's my heart that's breaking Down this long distance line
- 1:38:29Speaker 11: tonight I ain't.
- 1:38:30Speaker 15: Missing you at all I'm missing you Since you've been
- 1:38:36Speaker 15: gone I'm missing my way I ain't missing you No
- 1:38:45Speaker 15: matter what my friends say And there's a message that
- 1:38:52Speaker 15: I'm sending out.
- 1:38:54Speaker 1: Like a telegraph to your soul And if I can't
- 1:39:01Speaker 1: bridge this distance Stop this Since you've been gone.
- 1:39:15Speaker 8: Oh wait I ain't missing you.
- 1:39:21Speaker 15: No matter What my friends say I ain't missing you
- 1:39:30Speaker 15: I ain't missing you I.
- 1:39:34Speaker 8: Can lie to myself.
- 1:39:37Speaker 11: And there's a storm that's raging Through my frozen.
- 1:39:43Speaker 10: Heart tonight A song called Hold on, hold on Baby,
- 1:39:51Speaker 10: gotta hold on Take your mind Standing right there Gotta hold.
- 1:39:58Speaker 2: On You gotta hold.
- 1:40:00Speaker 10: On Hold on Baby, gotta hold on Take your.
- 1:40:07Speaker 3: Mind Alright, shut it down.
- 1:40:11Speaker 2: Shut it down. I'll close with some crunching chips.
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