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Doin' The Raccoon with Sean Gunn · Movie Meltdown

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  Speaker 1: This is Nick Offerman, and you're listening to Movie Meltdown.
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  Speaker 2: This episode is rated M for Misty. Yes, that's right,
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  Speaker 2: this is a Misty episode, so it will be laced
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  Speaker 2: with profanity even more than usual. If you're not comfortable
• 0:28
  Speaker 2: with this level of profanity... perhaps this isn't the episode
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  Speaker 2: for you. But we have many other episodes to choose
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  Speaker 2: from that do not feature Misty and will probably be
• 0:36
  Speaker 2: far less offensive. Okay, maybe. That having been said, on
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  Speaker 2: with the show.
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  Speaker 3: It's showtime, folks.
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  Speaker 4: Enjoy the show.
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  Speaker 5: Our nuclear reactor pumping out one million kilowatts of power.
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  Speaker 6: Two households, differences dried plums and pears, in fair Manhattan
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  Speaker 6: where we lay our steam. Two homes, a drifting heat
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  Speaker 6: for 20 years, a score, a washing sin for long
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  Speaker 6: deprived of dreams.
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  Speaker 7: What's up and welcome to Movie Meltdown.
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  Speaker 2: I'm Brian.
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  Speaker 4: I am Misty.
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  Speaker 7: And we're coming to you live via digital recording from
• 2:00
  Speaker 7: right in the middle of Fandom Fest.
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  Speaker 4: Actually, we're in a dressing room.
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  Speaker 7: We've squirreled ourselves away from the rest of these weird characters.
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  Speaker 7: Which is usually what we end up doing at all
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  Speaker 7: of these events. So, how's it going, Misty?
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  Speaker 4: It's going pretty fantastic.
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  Speaker 7: Um, what have you.
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  Speaker 2: Been up to?
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  Speaker 7: It's been a while. We've been on semi-recently in another festival,
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  Speaker 7: but since then, many things have happened.
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  Speaker 4: I feel like I watched something, but I can't remember
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  Speaker 4: what it was. So I guess we're not going to
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  Speaker 4: talk about that.
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  Speaker 7: I saw Baby Driver.
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  Speaker 4: I saw the trailer for it. It actually does look
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  Speaker 4: like something I might not hate. It's a lot of fun.
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  Speaker 7: It's one of those, I think, and maybe this is
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  Speaker 7: where we're going with him as a director. Because I
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  Speaker 7: think it's like we were so... attached to him and
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  Speaker 7: those characters in the first ones. And I think he's
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  Speaker 7: kind of... Hold on, wait a second.
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  Speaker 4: What are we talking about?
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  Speaker 7: Who made Shaun of the Dead?
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  Speaker 4: Edgar Winter?
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  Speaker 8: No.
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  Speaker 4: Is that right? Edgar Wright. Edgar Winter was the band
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  Speaker 4: with the white hair. I was way off. I was
• 3:04
  Speaker 4: half right. I get at least credit, partial credit.
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  Speaker 7: But no, I think that's part of it. I think
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  Speaker 7: it's the... Edgar Wright's movies, like in general, I think
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  Speaker 7: they're kind of shifting.
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  Speaker 1: And maybe.
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  Speaker 7: I'm trying to think if it happened, if it's just
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  Speaker 7: like post-Ant-Man. Like from that point on, he was just like,
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  Speaker 7: this is a lot to deal with.
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  Speaker 1: But I don't know.
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  Speaker 7: I feel like we were attached to so many of those,
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  Speaker 7: like Shaun of the Dead and like, you know, Hot Fuzz.
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  Speaker 7: Like those characters are super, even like, I really like the,
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  Speaker 7: what is the End of the World one? I've forgotten already.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know.
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  Speaker 7: At the World's End.
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  Speaker 4: At the World's End.
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  Speaker 1: There we go.
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  Speaker 7: That makes sense. So, but yeah, that one in particular,
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  Speaker 7: I think it's so like, You get so into these
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  Speaker 7: characters and their sad little lives that I think it's
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  Speaker 7: a little more endearing. And then once he starts making
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  Speaker 7: regular kind of movies, I think that's a noticeable difference
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  Speaker 7: for me. Because I think this one's really fun and
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  Speaker 7: is amazingly choreographed and orchestrated. Have you heard about the music?
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  Speaker 1: No.
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  Speaker 7: Because he's a super hardcore music kind of a guy anyway.
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  Speaker 7: He loves putting... Like Scott Pilgrim is all nothing but
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  Speaker 7: rock music. So it's like he loves... working all this
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  Speaker 7: music into his stuff but this one is almost to
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  Speaker 7: the level of musical like or some sort of weird
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  Speaker 7: experimental game that he's playing to see if he can
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  Speaker 7: do it because it's like he is baby our main
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  Speaker 7: character is constantly wearing headphones so he himself is always
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  Speaker 7: listening to music so edgar wright starts setting up the
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  Speaker 7: scenes to the music to the point where like not
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  Speaker 7: just like you've got a cool song playing while you're
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  Speaker 7: doing a chase scene, which you do, but there's certain
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  Speaker 7: points where they're firing a gun and the gun is
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  Speaker 7: firing to the beat of the song that you're listening to.
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  Speaker 7: It almost is like epic music video level of crazy
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  Speaker 7: orchestrated stuff. So it's like I respect that kind of
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  Speaker 7: level of like, this is something that he's not joking
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  Speaker 7: around about. He spent tons of time planning and timing
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  Speaker 7: out every single thing. But at the same time, like,
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  Speaker 7: I'm not super attached to most of the characters. Like,
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  Speaker 7: there's some great performances along the way, mostly from the little, like,
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  Speaker 7: side characters of other bad guys. But, like, Baby, he's likable, but, like,
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  Speaker 7: I don't feel like we know him all that well
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  Speaker 7: by the end of it. The girlfriend that, you know,
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  Speaker 7: she doesn't have much more to do but be super cute, but, like,
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  Speaker 7: You're not overly invested in her as a character. So
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  Speaker 7: I feel like there's a weird detachment in this one
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  Speaker 7: that maybe there hasn't been in some of the earlier ones.
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  Speaker 7: But I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know. I haven't seen it.
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  Speaker 7: Other than that, but I mean, yeah, as a heist movie,
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  Speaker 7: it's super fun. He does not, once again, it's like
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  Speaker 7: points for just not phoning it in. When he decided
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  Speaker 7: he wants to make this thing about a getaway car
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  Speaker 7: driver for the most part, like, okay, I'm going to
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  Speaker 7: do a bunch of car chases. I mean, he's stated
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  Speaker 7: this is specifically his mission. There's no CG. There's no
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  Speaker 7: green screen. There's no, like, it's cars. It's cars on
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  Speaker 7: the road, and you see, and he kind of, from
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  Speaker 7: that aspect, he kind of blows his wad, because that
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  Speaker 7: first one, like, you get first scene in, gets into
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  Speaker 7: this chase scene, and it's one of the more impressive
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  Speaker 7: chase scenes you'll see in a movie, period. Like, it
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  Speaker 7: is impressive. So like everything else, there's kind of another
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  Speaker 7: one midway in. There's some car driving at the end,
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  Speaker 7: but nothing quite that level. Like that first chase scene
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  Speaker 7: is phenomenal. So it's worth seeing just for the fact
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  Speaker 7: that that's all practical. Like those are cars sliding around
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  Speaker 7: a corner that may or may not kill somebody.
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  Speaker 4: What's that guy's name again? I keep wanting to call
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  Speaker 4: him Ansel Adams, and I know that's way off.
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  Speaker 7: I don't think it's got Ansel Adams in it.
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  Speaker 4: What's that guy's name?
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  Speaker 7: Which person are we talking about?
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  Speaker 4: The main guy. The driver.
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  Speaker 9: The driver.
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  Speaker 7: I don't remember. Again, I think I looked him up
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  Speaker 7: afterwards because I'm like, the fact that he got this
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  Speaker 7: as a lead, I'm assuming I know him from something,
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  Speaker 7: but he didn't look super familiar, so I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: I know he's been in other stuff. I just can't
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  Speaker 4: remember what it is.
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  Speaker 7: Oh, it wasn't he? He's like the kid in something,
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  Speaker 7: wasn't he?
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  Speaker 4: Not a clue.
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  Speaker 7: Is it Google worthy?
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  Speaker 4: No, not really. I haven't seen anything, but I could
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  Speaker 4: talk about what me and the boyfriend went and did.
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  Speaker 7: You were having more adventures.
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  Speaker 4: There was adventures. There was journeys.
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  Speaker 7: See, she keeps taking these fancy adventures. All I do
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  Speaker 7: is go to my convention. Occasionally a film fest.
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  Speaker 4: I do like conventions. I'm not really big on film
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  Speaker 4: fests because then I feel pretentious and bullshit. Me and
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  Speaker 4: the boyfriend, we went to St. Louis.
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  Speaker 6: St.
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  Speaker 3: Louis?
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  Speaker 4: I've driven through St. Louis and around St.
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  Speaker 10: Louis.
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  Speaker 4: According to my mom, apparently I lived in East St.
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  Speaker 4: Louis at some time.
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  Speaker 1: Ghetto.
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  Speaker 4: I know, it was apparently super ghetto.
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  Speaker 7: There's some rough parts of St.
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  Speaker 8: Louis.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, we were driving there like, ugh. Someone I'm now
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  Speaker 7: sort of related to, his family came from St. Louis
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  Speaker 7: and like, they have scary stories of like, neighborhoods you
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  Speaker 7: don't need to be hanging out in in St.
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  Speaker 2: Louis.
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  Speaker 4: Anyways, we went to St.
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  Speaker 11: Louis.
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  Speaker 4: We've been through it, around it. I don't think I've actually.
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  Speaker 4: Been in st louis since i was like a small
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  Speaker 4: toddler because my mom told me that when i was
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  Speaker 4: a baby i went up in the arch when i'm
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  Speaker 4: like like because i'm afraid of heights so i like
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  Speaker 4: i went to the bottom of the arch and looked
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  Speaker 4: up and i'm like yep there it is and i
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  Speaker 4: turn around.
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  Speaker 7: Walk back you posted that picture on facebook and i
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  Speaker 7: saw it and that was the thing you've been on
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  Speaker 7: so many adventures lately i was like wait is this
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  Speaker 7: an old picture from the last world trip that you
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  Speaker 7: went on because i couldn't remember if you cut through
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  Speaker 7: st louis last time and you were just still like
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  Speaker 7: past it did you see the archie thing yes did
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  Speaker 7: you stop and get mcdonald's.
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  Speaker 4: No oh I only saw one McDonald's, but I wasn't
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  Speaker 4: really paying that much attention.
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  Speaker 7: There is one. That's not the one. For a while,
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  Speaker 7: we were trying to get all the novelty. My friend
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  Speaker 7: and I were driving around, and we went to the world's...
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  Speaker 7: There was supposed to be one that goes over an
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  Speaker 7: overpass kind of McDonald's that goes over the highway that's
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  Speaker 7: one of the biggest McDonald's at the time, which this
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  Speaker 7: was a long time ago. And we couldn't find that,
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  Speaker 7: but it was somewhere... I think it's when we were
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  Speaker 7: at either.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, you had friends that weren't me. When was this?
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  Speaker 7: This was a long time ago. If it puts it
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  Speaker 7: in perspective, he's dead now. So, no, that's the thing.
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  Speaker 7: There can be only one. Yeah. Wait, where were you at?
• 9:08
  Speaker 7: Third decapitated body I need to know about.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe.
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  Speaker 7: But no, it was at one point we were heading
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  Speaker 7: either to St.
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  Speaker 11: Louis.
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  Speaker 2: It might have been there.
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  Speaker 4: Again, you went places.
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  Speaker 7: For a day. Again, I can't say anywhere more than
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  Speaker 7: a day because I'm too poor. But we couldn't find
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  Speaker 7: that one. We ended up, somebody sent us to this
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  Speaker 7: other one, which was on a boat. It was kind
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  Speaker 7: of like a riverboat McDonald's. And, like, we went to
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  Speaker 7: the girl on the counter, and we're like, we're trying
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  Speaker 7: to find this other one, and it's supposed to be
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  Speaker 7: the biggest. She's like, we're the biggest seeder. And, like,
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  Speaker 7: for the longest time, that became, we're the biggest seeder.
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  Speaker 4: The biggest what?
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  Speaker 7: I suppose you could get the most people seeded in
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  Speaker 7: that McDonald's, so they're the biggest seeder, is the way
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  Speaker 7: that she put it. And that just became a running
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  Speaker 7: joke for years. So, did you go to the biggest
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  Speaker 7: cedar apparently i did.
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  Speaker 4: Not i did go to the uh under the arch
• 9:59
  Speaker 4: all right.
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  Speaker 7: That's not as you're not gonna fall and die there.
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  Speaker 4: So that's no but then i was kind of afraid
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  Speaker 4: the whole thing was gonna collapse on me because you
• 10:05
  Speaker 4: know me i'm like i can't.
• 10:06
  Speaker 7: Believe you didn't want to get in an elevator that
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  Speaker 7: goes sideways because it.
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  Speaker 4: Went underground because i had to go underground to get
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  Speaker 4: underneath it i wasn't like i wasn't just like hanging
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  Speaker 4: on it i went underneath the earth to get there
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  Speaker 4: which i had to take off my belt.
• 10:19
  Speaker 7: Because?
• 10:20
  Speaker 4: Homeland Security.
• 10:21
  Speaker 7: You're a terrorist? Apparently. I mean, that's probably true. I've
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  Speaker 7: met you.
• 10:24
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: But anyways, yeah, I'd take off my belt. I had
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  Speaker 4: my purse. I had to be scanned. I had to
• 10:28
  Speaker 4: walk through just so I could get some squish pennies.
• 10:31
  Speaker 7: Which is really the mission of all of these trips.
• 10:34
  Speaker 4: A lot of them, yeah. Pretty much. At least the
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  Speaker 4: second part of it. But anyways, the main purpose of
• 10:40
  Speaker 4: the journey was Guns N' Roses. For the first time
• 10:44
  Speaker 4: since 1991 has played a show in St. Louis. And
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  Speaker 4: it did not cause a riot this time.
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  Speaker 7: I mean, you've seen the other version pre-reunion. You saw
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  Speaker 7: the Axl version that you talked about on the show
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  Speaker 7: a long time ago. Did I? Yeah. I believe it
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  Speaker 7: was a Christmas episode.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah.
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  Speaker 7: And then we... Did we.
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  Speaker 4: Discuss when you went with us?
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  Speaker 7: I think we mentioned it at one point this past
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  Speaker 7: year when I went with you two and we saw
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  Speaker 7: the reunion, the Not In This Lifetime Tour, and I
• 11:15
  Speaker 7: thought it was funny that they named it that, so
• 11:16
  Speaker 7: then I have to be part of that.
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  Speaker 4: Well, they're still on the Not In This Lifetime Tour.
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  Speaker 7: They're still on it, is the funny part.
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  Speaker 4: And we've already bought our tickets for the next show.
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  Speaker 7: And I'm going to that one, too. So, obviously, we're dorks,
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  Speaker 7: and we want to watch Guns N' Roses. But this
• 11:27
  Speaker 7: was an offshoot version that you guys were doing that
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  Speaker 7: I'm like, that is in the middle of the week
• 11:31
  Speaker 7: and a long trip, so you... I was just recapping
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  Speaker 7: that you've seen them in other incarnations, but not in St.
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  Speaker 4: Louis.
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  Speaker 7: And why is that, Misty?
• 11:39
  Speaker 4: Because they have not played St. Louis since Axl Rose
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  Speaker 4: caused the riot in 1991.
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  Speaker 7: Old people will probably remember video footage of Axl, I
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  Speaker 7: don't know, jumping into the crowd.
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  Speaker 4: And punching some guy in the face.
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  Speaker 7: Possibly decking a dude in the face.
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  Speaker 4: Hey, he had asked security on multiple times, because this
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  Speaker 4: was back in the day when there weren't cameras at
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  Speaker 4: every show. And there was a very strict no camera
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  Speaker 4: policy at Guns N' Roses shows. It was well known that...
• 12:03
  Speaker 4: to not take cameras into Guns N' Roses shows. And
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  Speaker 4: this guy took his camera, and Axl warned the guy,
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  Speaker 4: and asked security.
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  Speaker 7: Like, from the stage, on the microphone. Like, it's very public.
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  Speaker 7: He's telling him, quit filming me, dude.
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  Speaker 4: So, and after the security's just like, shrugging, he's like,
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  Speaker 4: fuck it, I will take care of it myself. He
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  Speaker 4: jumps in, punches the guy, gets back on stage, pretty
• 12:23
  Speaker 4: much throws his mic on, you know, because of fucking
• 12:25
  Speaker 4: lame-ass security, I'm fucking done. Slash is just like, well,
• 12:30
  Speaker 4: I guess we're done. And they all just walk off. Like,
• 12:33
  Speaker 4: what three four songs into their set or whatever which
• 12:35
  Speaker 4: then follows a uh three hour riot which i don't
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  Speaker 4: think anybody was killed i think there might have been
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  Speaker 4: some injuries and like i don't know how many millions
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  Speaker 4: worth of damage because they were people like all the equipment.
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  Speaker 7: So to say three hour riot like what do you
• 12:50
  Speaker 7: do after the first you know you're good 45 minutes
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  Speaker 7: into rioting Especially in a contained area like that. It's
• 12:55
  Speaker 7: different if it's, like, a whole city that you're running around. But, like,
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  Speaker 7: in one area, I'm like.
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  Speaker 4: It was an amphitheater, so I don't know if it was, like,
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  Speaker 4: fully enclosed or what. I don't know. I wasn't there.
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  Speaker 7: I was 11 at the time. What do you do
• 13:03
  Speaker 7: at 2 when you're rioting?
• 13:04
  Speaker 4: It's like, they could have gone on a three-hour tour and, like.
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  Speaker 7: Did they have a little boat?
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  Speaker 11: I don't know.
• 13:09
  Speaker 4: But anyways, after that, he left the country.
• 13:11
  Speaker 7: Picking, slashing the little skipper hat.
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  Speaker 4: Because it was... They were still on tour, so they
• 13:15
  Speaker 4: immediately left the country. So they were out of the
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  Speaker 4: country for a year.
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  Speaker 7: Mm-hmm.
• 13:20
  Speaker 4: So as soon as he lands back, he's arrested.
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  Speaker 10: Mm-hmm.
• 13:24
  Speaker 7: I think I forgot that part. I remember he got
• 13:26
  Speaker 7: in trouble.
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  Speaker 4: There's a picture of him in the backseat of a
• 13:28
  Speaker 4: cop car, full on grin. Like, he's an ass. I
• 13:31
  Speaker 4: love him. Don't get me wrong. He's a dick. God damn,
• 13:33
  Speaker 4: I love me some Axl. I would not want to
• 13:35
  Speaker 4: hang out with him. At least not at that point
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  Speaker 4: in his life.
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  Speaker 7: Professionally speaking, he's phenomenal. He still has a great voice.
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  Speaker 7: He's still a hell of a front man. Personally, I
• 13:43
  Speaker 7: don't know what to think of that dude.
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  Speaker 12: Yeah.
• 13:45
  Speaker 7: But, yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Apparently, I think the judge actually cleared him on most charges.
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  Speaker 4: They couldn't get him on inciting a riot.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 13:53
  Speaker 4: They couldn't get him on that.
• 13:54
  Speaker 7: Just punching a dude, really.
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  Speaker 4: And just leaving. You know, that's, they couldn't actually, I
• 13:58
  Speaker 4: think there might have been some fines, but I don't
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  Speaker 4: think they actually could charge him with the riot. So,
• 14:03
  Speaker 4: this has been the first time in, since 1991, which
• 14:05
  Speaker 4: he made a comment, he's like, He's like, just last
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  Speaker 4: year I realized it had been half my lifetime since
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  Speaker 4: I've been here. So yeah, it's been like half of
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  Speaker 4: his life, you know, because it was 91 and he's
• 14:16
  Speaker 4: in his 50s.
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  Speaker 7: That's what I, yeah, when you said something about being
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  Speaker 7: there and that being the city and I was like, oh,
• 14:22
  Speaker 7: so he's, did he, that's my first thought. Is he
• 14:25
  Speaker 7: going to mention it? Is he going to acknowledge it?
• 14:27
  Speaker 7: He gets kind of pissy even now.
• 14:29
  Speaker 4: I was waiting. I'm like, is he going to acknowledge
• 14:31
  Speaker 4: this whatsoever or is it just going to be one
• 14:32
  Speaker 4: of those things that's just going to go completely not acknowledged?
• 14:35
  Speaker 4: And like... He didn't get the whole, you know, it's
• 14:39
  Speaker 4: nice to see you guys again.
• 14:40
  Speaker 7: It's been a while.
• 14:42
  Speaker 4: You know, just stuff like that. I mean, he didn't
• 14:45
  Speaker 4: mention the riot particularly, but he just, you know, it's
• 14:48
  Speaker 4: been a while. Hopefully next time it'll not be so long.
• 14:51
  Speaker 4: He played for three and a half hours.
• 14:53
  Speaker 7: That's still amazing. Like, a band of kids would not
• 14:57
  Speaker 7: have the stamina to play that long. These are old
• 14:58
  Speaker 7: dudes now.
• 14:59
  Speaker 4: And they were excellent. They were fucking everywhere.
• 15:04
  Speaker 1: It was crazy.
• 15:05
  Speaker 4: And Slash running around hopping off shit. I'm like, dude,
• 15:07
  Speaker 4: you're going to break your hip. You best calm that
• 15:09
  Speaker 4: shit down. Oh, dude, stop jumping off things. He's like 50.
• 15:13
  Speaker 4: That's old.
• 15:13
  Speaker 7: In our society, that's old.
• 15:14
  Speaker 4: On the way back from the concert, boyfriend's like, you know,
• 15:17
  Speaker 4: I just realized something. There's probably times in Slash's life
• 15:20
  Speaker 4: when he's not wearing that hat.
• 15:23
  Speaker 7: I mean, in the early days?
• 15:25
  Speaker 4: No, he's like, I wonder if he's sitting at home
• 15:28
  Speaker 4: on his couch. He's probably not wearing that hat.
• 15:31
  Speaker 7: Like this just occurred to Jay. Jay's very special.
• 15:35
  Speaker 4: I get a picture. He's like, what if he's in
• 15:37
  Speaker 4: the shower? Is he not?
• 15:39
  Speaker 7: I'm like, not wearing that.
• 15:41
  Speaker 4: He's like, what does he do in like regular life?
• 15:43
  Speaker 4: Is he not wearing the hat?
• 15:45
  Speaker 7: It'd be pretty awesome him like in the shower wearing
• 15:47
  Speaker 7: the hat. And I'm just like, with like a big
• 15:50
  Speaker 7: plastic bag over it. Don't get that one. Don't get
• 15:53
  Speaker 7: that one. He's talking to his bathers.
• 15:55
  Speaker 4: Like a shower cap over the hat.
• 15:58
  Speaker 7: It's like coming to America bathers.
• 16:00
  Speaker 4: But it's like, Like I said, they have the steps
• 16:03
  Speaker 4: that go up to the drum, and it's like he's
• 16:05
  Speaker 4: running up and I'm driving off, and I'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
• 16:07
  Speaker 4: At least he's wearing his chucks, I'm pretty sure.
• 16:10
  Speaker 7: It looks like chucks from where they were.
• 16:11
  Speaker 4: He should be. Where Axel's running around in those goddamn
• 16:13
  Speaker 4: pointy-ass boots. I'm like, those boots are slick, man. I'm like,
• 16:17
  Speaker 4: those boots probably got no traction. You best calm down.
• 16:19
  Speaker 4: I am worried about your safety.
• 16:21
  Speaker 7: As you should be. I mean, it's not like earlier
• 16:24
  Speaker 7: in this tour he wasn't rolling around in a wheelchair.
• 16:28
  Speaker 4: Yeah. He was still in the ACDC tour. I think
• 16:31
  Speaker 4: he was still in the wheelchair.
• 16:33
  Speaker 7: I thought when he first crossed back over to this,
• 16:35
  Speaker 7: I thought the first couple of shows he still kind
• 16:37
  Speaker 7: of rolled out in the chair.
• 16:38
  Speaker 4: But I don't give a shit what anybody says. He
• 16:40
  Speaker 4: still fucking sounds amazing.
• 16:41
  Speaker 7: He's amazing.
• 16:42
  Speaker 4: You know?
• 16:42
  Speaker 7: The whole band. Slash is amazing.
• 16:44
  Speaker 4: He went through that phase, the yellow raincoat phase. And
• 16:47
  Speaker 4: he has lost everything. He's even lost more weight since
• 16:50
  Speaker 4: the last time we saw him.
• 16:51
  Speaker 7: And he slimmed down quite a bit when we saw
• 16:53
  Speaker 7: him earlier.
• 16:54
  Speaker 4: He's lost even more weight. To me, it looks like that,
• 16:56
  Speaker 4: or they had the monitors narrowed.
• 16:59
  Speaker 7: That's a good trick if they're doing that, though. Points
• 17:01
  Speaker 7: to them.
• 17:01
  Speaker 4: But, I mean, he sounds amazing, you know. Slash, goddamn,
• 17:06
  Speaker 4: that man is fucking amazing. Even though I was getting
• 17:09
  Speaker 4: creeped out at points because he had a band-aid on
• 17:10
  Speaker 4: his pinky. And it kept, like, falling off. And I'm like,
• 17:14
  Speaker 4: Band-Aid gross. Because I kept trying to close up of
• 17:15
  Speaker 4: his hands. They do that because he's rocking out like
• 17:18
  Speaker 4: nobody's business, which he's still fucking amazing.
• 17:19
  Speaker 7: I mean, he slashed. He was phenomenal then. He's probably
• 17:22
  Speaker 7: way better now because he's not drunk off his ass. Because, like,
• 17:25
  Speaker 7: you hear the stories about how much he used to
• 17:26
  Speaker 7: drink back in the day.
• 17:27
  Speaker 4: And another thing, I can't remember if we noticed last time,
• 17:30
  Speaker 4: no cigarette.
• 17:31
  Speaker 11: Hmm.
• 17:32
  Speaker 4: The entire fucking show. You could see him chewing gum. Well,
• 17:35
  Speaker 4: that's what I told my boyfriend. I can't tell if
• 17:38
  Speaker 4: he's actually quit smoking or if this is a completely
• 17:39
  Speaker 4: smoke-free facility and he's not allowed to smoke. Before, it
• 17:42
  Speaker 4: used to didn't matter.
• 17:43
  Speaker 7: He's such a nerd now and probably always was, but
• 17:46
  Speaker 7: he used to be a drunk nerd. But now, he's
• 17:48
  Speaker 7: such a nerd. He's like, if I smoke and kill myself,
• 17:51
  Speaker 7: how am I going to buy more dinosaur bones?
• 17:52
  Speaker 4: No shit.
• 17:53
  Speaker 7: He's a dork and he collects so much dorky stuff.
• 17:56
  Speaker 4: See, I would actually hang out with him.
• 17:58
  Speaker 7: Yeah, see, now Slash, I would totally hang out with him.
• 17:59
  Speaker 4: I would hang out with Slash. I'd be okay with Duff.
• 18:01
  Speaker 7: Duff, I'd give it a test run. He seems all
• 18:03
  Speaker 7: right these days.
• 18:04
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 18:05
  Speaker 4: But, yeah, again, it was fucking amazing. He played for
• 18:07
  Speaker 4: three and a half hours.
• 18:08
  Speaker 7: Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Was Popcorn there?
• 18:10
  Speaker 8: No.
• 18:11
  Speaker 4: I don't think he's allowed to play with the band anymore.
• 18:12
  Speaker 7: What did he do?
• 18:13
  Speaker 4: His mom wrote a book about how Guns N' Roses
• 18:15
  Speaker 4: ruined his life.
• 18:16
  Speaker 7: His mom won't let him play with the rest of
• 18:18
  Speaker 7: the band.
• 18:18
  Speaker 4: That's what I'm thinking. I'm picturing him sitting at home
• 18:20
  Speaker 4: on the couch like.
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: Thanks, Mom.
• 18:22
  Speaker 4: No, I can't go play with the band anymore. I
• 18:24
  Speaker 4: don't know.
• 18:24
  Speaker 7: I'm going to play video games. You can suck, Mom.
• 18:27
  Speaker 4: Because, yeah, apparently, it was like right, shortly after we
• 18:30
  Speaker 4: saw him with the band, it was a couple months later,
• 18:33
  Speaker 4: she released a book about how Guns N' Roses ruined
• 18:35
  Speaker 4: his life. And I don't think I've seen any pictures
• 18:37
  Speaker 4: of him.
• 18:38
  Speaker 7: I feel like Steve ruined his life.
• 18:39
  Speaker 4: They were saying that because of the band, he was
• 18:42
  Speaker 4: in situations that.
• 18:43
  Speaker 7: He would not have been able to be into. Exposed
• 18:44
  Speaker 7: to tons of drugs and whatever.
• 18:46
  Speaker 4: And, you know, he said several strokes, you know. I'm like,
• 18:48
  Speaker 4: Guns N' Roses didn't make you beat your ex-girlfriend, so
• 18:50
  Speaker 4: you just need to calm your shit.
• 18:51
  Speaker 7: I mean, yeah, it's like. Yeah, the rest of them
• 18:54
  Speaker 7: were exposed to all that too. And they got their
• 18:56
  Speaker 7: shit together eventually. It seems like.
• 18:58
  Speaker 4: I mean, they all do seem pretty fucking clean to me.
• 19:00
  Speaker 7: Again, if you're going to get in a band and
• 19:03
  Speaker 7: you're going to be shocked that you're exposed to drugs
• 19:05
  Speaker 7: and alcohol and loose women and or whoever you want
• 19:08
  Speaker 7: to hook up with. I mean, all of these things. Really.
• 19:12
  Speaker 7: I mean, come on, mom. You can't be shocked by
• 19:14
  Speaker 7: these activities. It's not like this took place in the
• 19:18
  Speaker 7: early days of rock and roll. This was in the
• 19:20
  Speaker 7: decadent late 80s. That's all rock bands were formed for.
• 19:24
  Speaker 4: That's what, there's a fucking Motley Crue album called Decade
• 19:26
  Speaker 4: of Decadence.
• 19:27
  Speaker 7: That's why you join a band, is for those exact
• 19:30
  Speaker 7: things that he did, and he got them, and well,
• 19:32
  Speaker 7: it didn't turn out well.
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: That's the crapshoot, man.
• 19:34
  Speaker 7: That's why.
• 19:35
  Speaker 4: Axl has got his shit together. I mean, there's none
• 19:37
  Speaker 4: of those, oh, well, because again, back in the day, 91,
• 19:43
  Speaker 4: he might show up. He might show up two hours late.
• 19:46
  Speaker 4: The fucker is on time. There is none of that
• 19:49
  Speaker 4: dilly-dallying around. He might change shirts ten, nine times before
• 19:52
  Speaker 4: the goddamn show is over with. But you know what?
• 19:54
  Speaker 7: Sex, drugs, and punctuality.
• 19:56
  Speaker 4: Hell yeah. You know? It was, like I said, fucking amazing.
• 20:01
  Speaker 4: It was pretty much a full house. I was kind
• 20:03
  Speaker 4: of wondering how it was going to go.
• 20:04
  Speaker 7: I'm like, Because of that city.
• 20:06
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 20:06
  Speaker 7: Because we saw them when they closed. That was a
• 20:09
  Speaker 7: huge venue when they sold it out. But St. Louis
• 20:12
  Speaker 7: is a different story.
• 20:13
  Speaker 4: Well, I'm wondering, because the venue there holds 90,000 people.
• 20:16
  Speaker 4: They're coming to Louisville. The Yum Center.
• 20:19
  Speaker 7: They're notorious for nobody showing up. No offense to that city.
• 20:22
  Speaker 4: But their venue only holds 22,000 people.
• 20:25
  Speaker 7: I would hope to God we fill it up.
• 20:27
  Speaker 4: They're doing a pretty good job so far.
• 20:29
  Speaker 7: They're a weird city.
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: But I don't think they've headlined in Louisville.
• 20:32
  Speaker 7: No, I don't think that's what we were trying to
• 20:34
  Speaker 7: decide because I was like, if you or I didn't
• 20:36
  Speaker 7: see them back in the day, I'm guessing they didn't
• 20:38
  Speaker 7: come to the area. I didn't go to a ton
• 20:41
  Speaker 7: of concerts then, but I probably would have made my
• 20:43
  Speaker 7: way out for Guns N' Roses.
• 20:44
  Speaker 4: But yeah, I did not buy a t-shirt at the
• 20:45
  Speaker 4: venue this time because they're like $ 40 for a t-shirt.
• 20:48
  Speaker 4: So I'm like, I bought the $ 5 bracelet because I
• 20:50
  Speaker 4: fucking love me some cheap gimmick bracelets from concerts.
• 20:52
  Speaker 7: You do like stuff like that.
• 20:53
  Speaker 4: So, uh, We're leaving the venue. So as we're leaving,
• 20:56
  Speaker 4: because our hotel is right across the street from the
• 20:59
  Speaker 4: dome or whatever. And so there's a group of people,
• 21:02
  Speaker 4: concert t-shirts, half price, half price. I'm like, 20 bucks? $ 10, $ 10.
• 21:06
  Speaker 4: I'm like, oh, shit. Give me some of that bootleg
• 21:09
  Speaker 4: Guns N' Roses t-shirts right there. I don't even care.
• 21:11
  Speaker 7: Add that to your collection.
• 21:12
  Speaker 4: Then I spent a good 20 minutes trying to figure
• 21:14
  Speaker 4: out misspellings. I'm like, there's got to be something on
• 21:15
  Speaker 4: there that's misspelled. Somebody's got to spell something right.
• 21:17
  Speaker 7: Let's hope so.
• 21:18
  Speaker 4: I couldn't figure out what order they were going for
• 21:20
  Speaker 4: because I'm like, St. Louis is over here and Louisville
• 21:22
  Speaker 4: is down here. And I'm just like, whatever, dude.
• 21:24
  Speaker 7: Well, they don't know how to spell Nashville, but oh well.
• 21:27
  Speaker 4: I was hoping. I was hoping. I haven't found any
• 21:29
  Speaker 4: misspellings yet, but I could be just as dumb as
• 21:30
  Speaker 4: they are. I can't call it yet. I was afraid
• 21:32
  Speaker 4: to put it in the washer. I'm like, this shit's
• 21:33
  Speaker 4: going to fall apart.
• 21:34
  Speaker 8: Oh, yeah.
• 21:34
  Speaker 7: Just hanging on the wall.
• 21:36
  Speaker 8: Oh, no.
• 21:36
  Speaker 4: It's already in the dryer. I haven't checked the outcome
• 21:39
  Speaker 4: of it yet. But yeah, $ 10 bootleg bought under an overpass.
• 21:45
  Speaker 7: Like you do.
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: So, yeah.
• 21:48
  Speaker 4: I was like, good times. That's my third bootleg concert t-shirt.
• 21:51
  Speaker 7: I assumed you had more than that by now.
• 21:53
  Speaker 4: Because most of the time you can't know. Most of
• 21:54
  Speaker 4: the time there aren't any bootleggers around.
• 21:56
  Speaker 7: People getting busted and stuff.
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: I know.
• 21:58
  Speaker 4: It's lame. The guy got chased out of the parking
• 21:59
  Speaker 4: lot because he was trying to sell them from the
• 22:01
  Speaker 4: parking lot at the hotel. And the guy who ran
• 22:03
  Speaker 4: the hotel came chasing him. He came running out. And
• 22:06
  Speaker 4: I'm like, I didn't know how much shirts were then.
• 22:08
  Speaker 4: And I'm just like, no, chances are he's going to
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: want too much for it. But when I hear 10 bucks,
• 22:12
  Speaker 4: I'll come running. But yeah, 10 bucks under an overpass.
• 22:18
  Speaker 7: Do they have any of those other things? They got
• 22:20
  Speaker 7: like a satin jacket for like $ 25. It's normally like
• 22:23
  Speaker 7: one of those $ 500 jackets. And I'm like, who buys
• 22:25
  Speaker 7: these exactly?
• 22:26
  Speaker 4: They only had time to run the one design. Because
• 22:28
  Speaker 4: I thought they had a different design. I was going
• 22:29
  Speaker 4: to chase after that. But then my boyfriend literally chased
• 22:31
  Speaker 4: me to the car. But no, just the one design.
• 22:35
  Speaker 4: There was no other bootleg stuff. But yeah, I have
• 22:37
  Speaker 4: the Kid Rock.
• 22:39
  Speaker 7: Which I believe I said earlier today. Who needs a
• 22:42
  Speaker 7: Kid Rock shirt? Period. Let alone a bootleg one. Hell yeah.
• 22:46
  Speaker 4: And then I have a Guns N' Roses one from
• 22:47
  Speaker 4: the Chinese Democracy tour with long sleeves, so I don't
• 22:50
  Speaker 4: wear that.
• 22:51
  Speaker 7: That was the solo set that you saw, was it?
• 22:54
  Speaker 7: He was still technically doing the Chinese Democracy.
• 22:57
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Chinese Democracy with DJ Ashba was the guitar player
• 23:01
  Speaker 4: filling in for Slash at that point.
• 23:03
  Speaker 7: No Bucketheads. No Buckethead.
• 23:04
  Speaker 4: I didn't see Buckethead. No Gilby Clark. What the fuck's
• 23:09
  Speaker 4: Izzy Stradlin doing? Come on now.
• 23:12
  Speaker 7: Being pissy.
• 23:12
  Speaker 4: No doubt. But yeah, so we're going to go see
• 23:14
  Speaker 4: them again in Louisville. It's been my fourth time seeing them,
• 23:16
  Speaker 4: probably the last, unless they come back to Louisville.
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: Again.
• 23:20
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 23:21
  Speaker 7: That seems unlikely, but you never know.
• 23:24
  Speaker 4: Until we get to the not-again-ever-in-this-lifetime tour.
• 23:27
  Speaker 7: I still know what you did never in this lifetime.
• 23:31
  Speaker 4: Good times. Then we went to the zoo the next morning.
• 23:36
  Speaker 7: Okay, sure, you saw some animals, but what did you
• 23:38
  Speaker 7: really do at the zoo?
• 23:39
  Speaker 4: Fucking pennies. I was running all over. Look, so if
• 23:42
  Speaker 4: you go... To the front, they'll give you, like, a
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: list of all the pennies. Like, they know people like me.
• 23:47
  Speaker 4: They're like, here's a list.
• 23:48
  Speaker 7: You gotta catch them all.
• 23:49
  Speaker 4: They didn't give me... If they had put it on
• 23:50
  Speaker 4: a map, that would have made it so much more convenient.
• 23:52
  Speaker 7: You'd think they really would, actually.
• 23:53
  Speaker 4: And they gave me a map, and they gave me
• 23:54
  Speaker 4: the list. And it didn't really correlate. They didn't, like,
• 23:56
  Speaker 4: have points on the map marked. I'm just like, oh,
• 23:58
  Speaker 4: I don't know what this is.
• 23:59
  Speaker 7: Don't they have an app for this?
• 24:00
  Speaker 4: I put Boyfriend in charge of it. The app did
• 24:01
  Speaker 4: not really help.
• 24:03
  Speaker 7: They need an app that, like, maps you and tells you, like,
• 24:05
  Speaker 7: go up and take a right to get a woodchuck
• 24:07
  Speaker 7: or whatever. I know, right?
• 24:08
  Speaker 4: And I was kind of aggravated because it's like, the
• 24:09
  Speaker 4: zoo is St.
• 24:10
  Speaker 7: Louis.
• 24:10
  Speaker 4: It's free.
• 24:11
  Speaker 11: It's free. It's free.
• 24:12
  Speaker 4: Okay, it's $ 15 to park. $ 4 if I want to
• 24:15
  Speaker 4: see the otters.
• 24:16
  Speaker 7: You and your loopholes.
• 24:18
  Speaker 4: Like, certain things, like, if I want to see the otters,
• 24:19
  Speaker 4: it's $ 4.
• 24:20
  Speaker 7: Now, why was it, like, entry to the otter house
• 24:23
  Speaker 7: or whatever?
• 24:23
  Speaker 4: I'd like to get to this whole, like, second section
• 24:25
  Speaker 4: where there's a whole bunch of other stuff, like, the
• 24:27
  Speaker 4: Discovery Kids area. I'm like, but the otters is the
• 24:30
  Speaker 4: main reasons I wanted to come here. That's why they
• 24:32
  Speaker 4: charge you $ 4 a person to go see the otters.
• 24:35
  Speaker 7: Because they're otters and they're adorable.
• 24:36
  Speaker 4: Or Stinger. That's the red pandas. I was pretty excited
• 24:39
  Speaker 4: about red pandas. I saw all the seals. I saw
• 24:42
  Speaker 4: some sea lions. And I saw some penguins. Penglings. I
• 24:46
  Speaker 4: saw some penglings.
• 24:46
  Speaker 7: I don't know.
• 24:47
  Speaker 4: Penglings. Penglings. And I didn't see the stingrays because you've
• 24:51
  Speaker 4: got to pay for the stingrays.
• 24:55
  Speaker 7: You get a free sting with every purchase.
• 24:58
  Speaker 4: You get a free Steve Irwin treatment every time you
• 25:00
  Speaker 4: go to the stingrays.
• 25:01
  Speaker 7: Free Steve Irwin stuff, though. Seems uncalled for.
• 25:07
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I got 50 pennies, like 50-some-odd pennies.
• 25:10
  Speaker 7: You have a problem.
• 25:11
  Speaker 4: Yeah, the Benny book only holds 36.
• 25:14
  Speaker 7: That is also a problem. But, yep, you have a problem.
• 25:19
  Speaker 4: And for two bottles of water was $ 7. What the fuck?
• 25:23
  Speaker 7: Because they can.
• 25:26
  Speaker 4: But, yeah. And then we did the entire, I got
• 25:28
  Speaker 4: like two hours. Because I'm like, I had shit I
• 25:32
  Speaker 4: wanted to do. There was half-price bookstores.
• 25:34
  Speaker 7: But I have to get pennies. Priorities.
• 25:36
  Speaker 10: Priorities.
• 25:37
  Speaker 4: Half price. Well, I didn't mention the wax museum.
• 25:40
  Speaker 7: Oh, my God. I saw photos today as we were
• 25:45
  Speaker 7: hanging out trying to make. I had to make a
• 25:47
  Speaker 7: list of all the things. But we have to discuss
• 25:49
  Speaker 7: all these things. It's been a while. They're like, oh,
• 25:52
  Speaker 7: I have to tell Misty that. So as we're going
• 25:54
  Speaker 7: through the list of things we haven't discussed, she's like, oh,
• 25:56
  Speaker 7: and the wax museum. And then the photos came out.
• 25:59
  Speaker 4: And they were epic.
• 26:01
  Speaker 7: I'm still kind of recovering a little bit. Well, that's
• 26:04
  Speaker 7: the shaking.
• 26:05
  Speaker 4: A lot of times you got to like. Alright, I'm
• 26:07
  Speaker 4: not really... Is that who that is? Because they didn't
• 26:10
  Speaker 4: put name tags on him.
• 26:11
  Speaker 7: I had to ask a lot of times.
• 26:13
  Speaker 4: The Steve McQueen.
• 26:15
  Speaker 7: Again, the face was at least recognizable. That rug he's
• 26:19
  Speaker 7: wearing is... I don't know what was going on with that.
• 26:22
  Speaker 4: Not as bad as the Clark Gable rug.
• 26:24
  Speaker 7: Didn't he have long hair?
• 26:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it was like home over.
• 26:28
  Speaker 7: Because you know what old timey guys had was a
• 26:30
  Speaker 7: lot of long hair.
• 26:32
  Speaker 4: It started right here and went all the way to
• 26:33
  Speaker 4: his shoulder. The Patrick Swayze.
• 26:36
  Speaker 7: Oh, Swayze.
• 26:37
  Speaker 8: What?
• 26:38
  Speaker 4: Swayze crazy is what that was.
• 26:39
  Speaker 7: Swayze falling down.
• 26:42
  Speaker 4: Like half of the wax mannequins, which I love this place.
• 26:44
  Speaker 4: I would totally recommend this. It's like $ 10 and it's
• 26:47
  Speaker 4: totally worth it. It's like five levels of wax mannequins.
• 26:52
  Speaker 4: You have your historic figures. You have your religious section.
• 26:55
  Speaker 4: You have your actors. You have your government.
• 27:02
  Speaker 7: The Hall of Presidents.
• 27:03
  Speaker 4: And you get to the basement, like the basement level.
• 27:05
  Speaker 7: The Hall of Creepiness. Which literally feels.
• 27:07
  Speaker 4: Like you're just in somebody's fucking creepy warehouse basement. It's creepy.
• 27:11
  Speaker 7: You leave me out of this. Those mannequins are there
• 27:13
  Speaker 7: for a reason.
• 27:14
  Speaker 4: Half of them seem like they were made out of papier-mâché.
• 27:16
  Speaker 4: They were not wax.
• 27:17
  Speaker 7: I may or may not have also done that, but
• 27:19
  Speaker 7: that's different.
• 27:19
  Speaker 4: It was just creepy for the fact that it was
• 27:21
  Speaker 4: just like, what? And then half the ones upstairs were
• 27:25
  Speaker 4: not wax either. I'm like, that's just a plastic figure
• 27:29
  Speaker 4: you bought at the mall.
• 27:30
  Speaker 7: It's just a molded figure.
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 27:32
  Speaker 4: But, yeah, it was epic. There were some... I'm like,
• 27:34
  Speaker 4: I don't even know... Is that... Is that... Okay, what.
• 27:39
  Speaker 7: What's the one you showed me that... You got mad
• 27:41
  Speaker 7: because I still couldn't come up with it, ever.
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: The clowns.
• 27:45
  Speaker 4: Oh, yeah, I'm like, what are you... Yeah, like, in
• 27:47
  Speaker 4: the horror section. So they have, like, this room that's
• 27:49
  Speaker 4: mostly clowns. And then, like, situated in between, like... Like,
• 27:52
  Speaker 4: in the middle of the clowns. And it's, like... The
• 27:56
  Speaker 4: Wet Bandits from fucking Home Alone.
• 27:58
  Speaker 7: Yeah, it took me... I don't know... Eventually you gave up.
• 28:03
  Speaker 7: It would have been 10 to 20 minutes of me going,
• 28:05
  Speaker 7: I don't. The best I could come up with was
• 28:08
  Speaker 7: Young Frankenstein and a really short Peter Boyle as Frankenstein.
• 28:12
  Speaker 11: No, no, no.
• 28:13
  Speaker 7: And it was neither.
• 28:15
  Speaker 4: What's the tall guy's name?
• 28:17
  Speaker 7: Daniel Stern.
• 28:18
  Speaker 4: Because he has the paint all over him.
• 28:20
  Speaker 7: Again, I wondered why Young Frankenstein had all that paint
• 28:23
  Speaker 7: on him. Well, first I said Willy Wonka. And then
• 28:25
  Speaker 7: I was like, well, it may make more sense because
• 28:27
  Speaker 7: he's standing next to Peter Boyle. who for some reason
• 28:29
  Speaker 7: is really short, Frankenstein.
• 28:31
  Speaker 4: Oh, it's Joe Pesci.
• 28:33
  Speaker 7: Yeah, you tell yourself that. I think even Joe Pesci
• 28:37
  Speaker 7: would be like, what the fuck is this?
• 28:38
  Speaker 4: Is that how he would say it?
• 28:40
  Speaker 7: Probably. There would be a lot of cursing.
• 28:42
  Speaker 4: Trust me, there was a lot of cursing.
• 28:44
  Speaker 7: Just by the people that just paid.
• 28:45
  Speaker 4: I love this place. I'm serious. No, seriously. Like I said,
• 28:48
  Speaker 4: there was a lot in there. I'm like, what is
• 28:50
  Speaker 4: going on? Because you go through sections and I'm like,
• 28:54
  Speaker 4: how do we get... The crucifixion's going on now? And
• 28:58
  Speaker 4: then there was like the.
• 28:59
  Speaker 7: And the wet bandits were there too.
• 29:00
  Speaker 4: They were in the basement. I don't know why they
• 29:03
  Speaker 4: weren't at the crucifixion. That one was creepy too. I
• 29:05
  Speaker 4: don't think I showed you the picture of the crucifixion.
• 29:07
  Speaker 7: Oh no. I don't think I knew there were creepy
• 29:10
  Speaker 7: religious people.
• 29:12
  Speaker 4: Oh, there was creepy everything. It was epic and it's awesome.
• 29:16
  Speaker 4: Let me find the crucifixion real quick because you can't
• 29:19
  Speaker 4: not be seeing some crucifixion.
• 29:25
  Speaker 7: Okay, I've been very church-oriented more than I need to
• 29:30
  Speaker 7: in my life. I've seen three-dimensional versions of a crucifixion before.
• 29:35
  Speaker 7: The fact that it looks like they crucified a hobo
• 29:37
  Speaker 7: is the problem.
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: I mean, look.
• 29:40
  Speaker 7: At that beard. That is not a Jesus beard. That
• 29:42
  Speaker 7: is a dude hanging out in front of the quickie
• 29:44
  Speaker 7: mart asking you for change beard.
• 29:46
  Speaker 4: Oh, you didn't see his eyes, did you?
• 29:48
  Speaker 7: Oh, God. What the hell is going on? I just
• 29:57
  Speaker 7: need gas to get back to my... I just need
• 29:59
  Speaker 7: some gas to get to St.
• 30:02
  Speaker 11: Louis.
• 30:02
  Speaker 7: Can you help me out?
• 30:04
  Speaker 4: Or the Elvis that we're pretty sure was Nicolas Cage.
• 30:06
  Speaker 7: I mean, Nicolas Cage really does want to be Elvis.
• 30:09
  Speaker 7: I understand that, but... Oh, God. That's a terrible, terrible photo.
• 30:13
  Speaker 4: You didn't see the quality of this one, did you?
• 30:15
  Speaker 4: I don't know if you can tell how lumpy she is.
• 30:18
  Speaker 4: I can actually look at her armpit area.
• 30:22
  Speaker 7: Is she made out of soap? It looks like they
• 30:24
  Speaker 7: carved her out of soap.
• 30:25
  Speaker 4: I was thinking maybe June Carter Cash because she's standing
• 30:27
  Speaker 4: next to the Johnny Cash.
• 30:29
  Speaker 7: I'll say it. I said it before. I'll say it again.
• 30:31
  Speaker 7: That is not Johnny Cash. This place is awesome. You
• 30:34
  Speaker 7: can claim whatever you want, but that is not Johnny Cash.
• 30:36
  Speaker 7: Is that a bald one?
• 30:38
  Speaker 4: Hold on.
• 30:38
  Speaker 7: It might have really just been Steven hanging around the basement.
• 30:42
  Speaker 4: I look behind Steve McQueen. I can't tell if it's
• 30:43
  Speaker 4: a bald one or if it's eyes.
• 30:44
  Speaker 7: It looks, yeah. Again, he might just be cleaning up there.
• 30:50
  Speaker 7: Are you done with this cup?
• 30:52
  Speaker 4: No, I think it's Denzel Washington.
• 30:53
  Speaker 7: Stephen Baldwin or Denzel Washington?
• 30:57
  Speaker 11: Who is it?
• 30:58
  Speaker 7: Your call.
• 31:00
  Speaker 4: I think it was Denzel.
• 31:03
  Speaker 7: Seems like a different.
• 31:04
  Speaker 4: You couldn't tell how thick Patrick Swayze's hair was.
• 31:06
  Speaker 7: It's a fancy rug, let me tell you. It is
• 31:09
  Speaker 7: full on.
• 31:09
  Speaker 4: And he's across from Whoopi Goldberg.
• 31:13
  Speaker 7: That, I guess, seems fitting. This is hair from Roadhouse.
• 31:16
  Speaker 7: I was going to say, he's got full-on Point Break
• 31:18
  Speaker 7: Roadhouse hair, but he's hanging out with Whoopi, so that's weird.
• 31:23
  Speaker 4: Good times were ahead. I would totally recommend this place
• 31:25
  Speaker 4: if I remember the name. Laclede Landing Wax Museum. I
• 31:29
  Speaker 4: love this place. They do have a plethora of wax figures,
• 31:34
  Speaker 4: if you can figure out who they are.
• 31:35
  Speaker 7: Good luck. They need a decoder. They need an app
• 31:38
  Speaker 7: that they.
• 31:39
  Speaker 4: Should sell you. It's awesome. My favorite was in the basement.
• 31:42
  Speaker 4: I showed you a picture of Kim.
• 31:44
  Speaker 7: Kim was my favorite one. That's the only one I
• 31:46
  Speaker 7: looked at and wasn't horrified by. Although normal people probably
• 31:49
  Speaker 7: would have been considering what she was. But to me,
• 31:52
  Speaker 7: I was like, oh, that's kind of cool. I was like,
• 31:53
  Speaker 7: that actually looks kind of attractive and creepy.
• 31:56
  Speaker 10: The Hitchcock was.
• 31:57
  Speaker 4: Kind of cool.
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: It does not.
• 31:59
  Speaker 7: It looks more like.
• 32:05
  Speaker 4: You couldn't see the dimensions for the pinhead. His shoulders
• 32:08
  Speaker 4: were like five times wider than his head.
• 32:11
  Speaker 7: Doug Bradley does not approve.
• 32:12
  Speaker 4: I'm pretty sure the exorcist chick was bought from him.
• 32:16
  Speaker 4: Her head actually moved and she talked.
• 32:18
  Speaker 7: Yeah, they sell those. The Halloween store.
• 32:21
  Speaker 4: They have the scream set up too. Good times for
• 32:24
  Speaker 4: her head.
• 32:24
  Speaker 7: Seems like it would be pretty easy to do the
• 32:26
  Speaker 7: scream killer. Buy a mask. Get a robe.
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: Hitch the werewolf.
• 32:31
  Speaker 7: I don't know what the hell that werewolf is either.
• 32:32
  Speaker 7: That is not right. That is not right. I don't
• 32:37
  Speaker 7: know what that is. I'm disturbed by it, but I
• 32:39
  Speaker 7: don't know what that is.
• 32:41
  Speaker 4: There's the wet bandits.
• 32:42
  Speaker 7: No, it's not.
• 32:45
  Speaker 4: Good times for me.
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: I love this place.
• 32:46
  Speaker 4: This place is amazing. If you're into that kind of stuff,
• 32:50
  Speaker 4: which I'm totally into, I would totally recommend it. I'm serious, dude.
• 32:52
  Speaker 4: Totally worth the $ 10. It is. It is awesome.
• 32:58
  Speaker 11: Oh, no.
• 32:59
  Speaker 10: But, yeah.
• 33:00
  Speaker 4: That was our excursion to St. Louis. Fun times ahead.
• 33:05
  Speaker 4: Guns N' Roses are awesome. Axl's amazing. Still sounds good.
• 33:08
  Speaker 4: Fuck everybody who says any other wise. I don't know.
• 33:10
  Speaker 4: Just fuck them. I'm done with anybody. Fuck their shit up.
• 33:16
  Speaker 4: Fuck them up.
• 33:17
  Speaker 7: With that, I think we should go talk to this
• 33:19
  Speaker 7: week's guest.
• 33:20
  Speaker 4: Who is this week's guest?
• 33:22
  Speaker 7: I say we go talk to... How about Sean Gunn?
• 33:26
  Speaker 4: Good luck with that.
• 33:27
  Speaker 7: That'd be pretty cool.
• 33:28
  Speaker 4: That would be pretty good.
• 33:30
  Speaker 7: Say we should go do that right now.
• 33:32
  Speaker 9: Welcome to the jungle we've got fun and games we've
• 33:38
  Speaker 9: got everything you want honey we know the names we
• 33:42
  Speaker 9: are the people that can find whatever you may need
• 33:48
  Speaker 9: if you've got no money honey we've got your disease
• 33:52
  Speaker 9: in the jungle Welcome to the jungle, why'd you bring it.
• 33:58
  Speaker 11: To your knees?
• 34:03
  Speaker 9: Welcome to the jungle, we take it day by day.
• 34:08
  Speaker 9: If you want it, you're gonna bleed, but it's the
• 34:11
  Speaker 9: price you pay.
• 34:12
  Speaker 11: And you're a very sexy girl, very.
• 34:16
  Speaker 10: Hard to please.
• 34:17
  Speaker 8: Popcorn hungry, we have it. Kettle from the Popper. There
• 34:20
  Speaker 8: are other treats for you, too, such as fresh candies
• 34:22
  Speaker 8: and ice cream. Visit the refreshment center now. Enjoy a
• 34:26
  Speaker 8: delicious snack and ice-cold Coca-Cola.
• 34:29
  Speaker 13: Woke up this morning feeling low Where my loved one
• 34:37
  Speaker 13: used to live She ain't there no more for me.
• 34:45
  Speaker 11: Hey, Jacqueline.
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: Hi.
• 35:01
  Speaker 7: Guess what?
• 35:02
  Speaker 4: What?
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: We're broke. Yeah, we definitely, I'm pulling up, turning my
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: pockets out right now.
• 35:08
  Speaker 11: Nothing. Nothing.
• 35:10
  Speaker 10: That's what I'm saying.
• 35:10
  Speaker 7: I do that every week. And yet I'm trying to
• 35:13
  Speaker 7: produce this show for you.
• 35:14
  Speaker 4: Guys listening right now. Yeah. Freeloaders.
• 35:17
  Speaker 7: I'm just saying, you know, if if you want to
• 35:20
  Speaker 7: keep this thing rolling, it'd be kind of awesome if
• 35:23
  Speaker 7: you go to our Patreon page and like kick in
• 35:26
  Speaker 7: like seriously, like two bucks.
• 35:28
  Speaker 5: I mean, you're going to do like Netflix for like
• 35:30
  Speaker 5: nine ninety nine and you get.
• 35:32
  Speaker 7: And you're probably not going to watch it all month
• 35:34
  Speaker 7: like I do.
• 35:35
  Speaker 14: Yeah, you need our commentary to figure out what to
• 35:38
  Speaker 14: watch on Netflix.
• 35:39
  Speaker 4: I think so.
• 35:40
  Speaker 7: It's like a companion piece to all your Amazons and
• 35:44
  Speaker 7: Netflixes and all of these things. So just think how
• 35:47
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• 35:50
  Speaker 7: But every week we're loading up a whole new episode
• 35:53
  Speaker 7: of us going in-depth, more than you may want, about
• 35:57
  Speaker 7: whatever movie we've decided or bringing in some awesome guests.
• 36:00
  Speaker 7: So I'm just saying... Two bucks. It's not so bad.
• 36:03
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• 36:04
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• 36:06
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• 36:08
  Speaker 11: Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
• 36:09
  Speaker 7: I'm supporting an artist that I like. That's all I
• 36:12
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• 36:16
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• 36:23
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• 36:25
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• 36:28
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• 36:30
  Speaker 7: Because you're awesome like that. Why don't you be awesome
• 36:32
  Speaker 7: like Jacqueline? I'm just saying. I mean, really, though. I mean,
• 36:36
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• 36:40
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• 36:42
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• 36:46
  Speaker 13: All I did all day long was fall down on
• 36:52
  Speaker 13: my knees and pray she'd come back home for me.
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: Meet little Melvin. He's a 90-pound weakling.
• 37:08
  Speaker 12: Everyone hated Melvin.
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: I'm going to take this.
• 37:10
  Speaker 15: Mop and shove it down your throat.
• 37:12
  Speaker 16: They teased him.
• 37:13
  Speaker 10: I want to do it with you.
• 37:14
  Speaker 13: Okay.
• 37:17
  Speaker 16: They taunted him.
• 37:18
  Speaker 12: They tormented him until he had a horrifying accident and
• 37:22
  Speaker 12: fell into a vat of nuclear waste. Transforming little Melvin
• 37:28
  Speaker 12: into a hideously deformed creature of superhuman size and strength.
• 37:34
  Speaker 12: Melvin became the Toxic Avenger. The first superhero born out
• 37:43
  Speaker 12: of nuclear waste. Yes, the muggers and the rapists didn't
• 37:47
  Speaker 12: know what law and order was until the Toxic Avenger
• 37:51
  Speaker 12: came to town.
• 37:52
  Speaker 11: Holy shit!
• 37:54
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: What it was, but it saved my life.
• 37:57
  Speaker 11: All right, everybody, drop your tacos or I'll blow your
• 38:02
  Speaker 11: brains out.
• 38:03
  Speaker 15: The vandals and the perverts.
• 38:06
  Speaker 12: Had their way with the little people of Tromobile until
• 38:09
  Speaker 12: the Toxic Avenger ripped them apart. The Toxic Avenger. His
• 38:17
  Speaker 12: face is so terrifying. We can't show it to you now.
• 38:22
  Speaker 12: You'll have to see the movie for yourself. The Toxic
• 38:27
  Speaker 12: Avenger can bend steel with his bare hands. Leap small
• 38:34
  Speaker 12: cars in a single bound. He crushes drug pushers. Smashes
• 38:47
  Speaker 12: hit and run drivers. And gives all criminals their just desserts.
• 38:59
  Speaker 15: The Toxic Avenger.
• 39:03
  Speaker 10: He was a hero.
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: He's a hero. He's a fighter.
• 39:13
  Speaker 8: He's a lover.
• 39:15
  Speaker 13: Why, Melvin, you're beautiful.
• 39:19
  Speaker 12: The good citizens love him. The fat and corrupt hate him.
• 39:25
  Speaker 13: Kill that bastard for me.
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: You gotta kill him.
• 39:29
  Speaker 12: Will he survive? For incredible explosive action, you must see
• 39:40
  Speaker 12: the Toxic Avenger.
• 39:43
  Speaker 15: He's a different kind of hero. The Toxic Avenger is
• 39:52
  Speaker 15: coming to your town.
• 39:54
  Speaker 11: Look out!
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: Attention horror fans! Days of the Dead returns to Louisville
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• 40:09
  Speaker 2: Ernie Hudson with special Ghostbusters costume photo op, Gary Busey,
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: Kurt Angle, Tony Todd in a special Candyman costume photo op,
• 40:21
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• 40:28
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• 40:45
  Speaker 11: Hello this is.
• 40:46
  Speaker 7: Sonny lander welcoming you to movie meltdown it's part of
• 40:50
  Speaker 7: your problem you know you haven't seen enough movies all of.
• 40:59
  Speaker 3: Life's riddles are answered in the movies.
• 41:14
  Speaker 8: Now, on with the show.
• 41:17
  Speaker 14: The summer in the Black Mountain hills of Dakota lived
• 41:23
  Speaker 14: a young boy named Rocky Raccoon.
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: One day his woman ran.
• 41:28
  Speaker 14: Out with another guy and he hit young.
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: Rocky in the eye. Rocky didn't like that. He said,
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: I'm going to get that boy.
• 41:37
  Speaker 14: So one day he walked into town, booked himself a
• 41:39
  Speaker 14: room in the local saloon. Rocky Raccoon checked into his room,
• 41:48
  Speaker 14: but only to find Gideon's Bible. Rocky Raccoon equipped with
• 41:58
  Speaker 14: a gun to shoot off the legs of his rival.
• 42:05
  Speaker 14: His rival, it seems.
• 42:07
  Speaker 7: So I was gonna, I usually kind of start with
• 42:10
  Speaker 7: where you're from. It's odd on this episode because we
• 42:12
  Speaker 7: were just talking about St.
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: Louis.
• 42:15
  Speaker 7: Misty just came back from there. So were you also
• 42:18
  Speaker 7: too scared to go to the top of the arch?
• 42:19
  Speaker 7: Because that's her problem.
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: No, you know, I would be now, I think. I've
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: went a couple of times as a kid and it's,
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: it's got the, you know, did you do it?
• 42:31
  Speaker 7: I didn't go with her, but I've, done it before
• 42:33
  Speaker 7: it's that weird sideways back and forth elevator yeah.
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: It's got to go like back and forth very strange
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: to get all the way up the top and then
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: you get up there and uh and now i kind
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: of find that all terrifying yeah um it's probably best
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: if you don't think about also some people got stuck
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: on it for like like 14 hours or something like
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: a few years i shouldn't say that and so i
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: don't want to i don't want to be St.
• 42:56
  Speaker 7: Louis Chamber of Commerce does not approve of this.
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: I know. The Arch is awesome, though.
• 43:02
  Speaker 7: It's amazing, just structurally.
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's an amazing thing. But no, I don't want
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: to go up in it anymore.
• 43:11
  Speaker 7: Well, then, I guess, starting from that point, you're dealing
• 43:16
  Speaker 7: with a, I guess most people know some of your
• 43:19
  Speaker 7: family history there, but you didn't come from an entertainment
• 43:22
  Speaker 7: family initially. The first wave was what, like legal, right?
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true. You've done your homework. I, uh, I'm,
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: I'm the youngest of six. My father was, um, was
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: one of nine children. Um, very, uh, old school Irish
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: Catholic Democrats. Um, and, uh, and yeah, his, um, all
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: his brothers, he has four brothers and they're all attorneys
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: and his, his father was a an attorney and a judge,
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: and was involved in St. Louis politics. And so I
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: think that there was this expectation that people in my
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: family kind of went into things like law and medicine
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: and business and stuff like that.
• 44:09
  Speaker 7: Real jobs.
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: Exactly. That's exactly it. Real jobs. Like, when are we
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: going to get a real job?
• 44:16
  Speaker 7: You're going to be an architect and design another one
• 44:18
  Speaker 7: of these arches.
• 44:19
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: And I got four brothers and a sister. my sister's
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: an attorney and all of the boys are in the
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: entertainment industry.
• 44:26
  Speaker 7: The boys all went wrong.
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 44:29
  Speaker 7: So what was the resistance? I mean, I guess as
• 44:32
  Speaker 7: the first couple start heading down that road, they actually.
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: Not at all. There really wasn't. Um, I mean, I
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: think that, um, you know, I think that my, my
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: parents were certainly always, they always wanted us to be
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: able to make a living and to, uh, you know,
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: to do something productive with our lives. But they were
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: very much on the wagon of you can do anything
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: you want to. I know that my parents told me
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: many times when I was a child that, you know,
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: whatever it is that you want to do in your life,
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: try to do it. And I'm very, very grateful for that.
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: I think, you know, I think that at the time
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: I thought that that's just what parents did like that
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: was like what all parents did that's.
• 45:23
  Speaker 7: What I was saying that's very direct it was like
• 45:25
  Speaker 7: I don't remember hearing anything that specific.
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: Like that's super supportive I mean I thought that yeah
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: I think that that I just I grew up it's
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: a weird it's a weird thing to to think about
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: now that when I was a kid I was like
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: oh that's what parents are supposed to say to their
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: kids you can just kind of be anything you want
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: to you can anything you want to be you can
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: be and then you know, it wasn't until like later
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: when I would get into college and stuff and I would,
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: and I would meet people. I went to acting school
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: and to have all these classmates that were like, Oh,
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: their family was just like, thought they were crazy for
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: going to acting school and really, really pushed them to
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: not go. Um, that I was like, Oh wow. I
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: guess my parents were really much, much cooler than I
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: ever gave them credit for. Um, but, uh, but yeah,
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: they were, uh, they were very supportive.
• 46:16
  Speaker 7: Well, that, Early on, were you drawn to... I was
• 46:20
  Speaker 7: going to say, normally I'm like, what kind of taste
• 46:22
  Speaker 7: did you have as far as the entertainment or the
• 46:24
  Speaker 7: arts in general? Did you start in school plays really young?
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: I always wanted to be an actor. I mean, always.
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: That's another weird thing to think about. My desire to
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: be on a stage and performing in front of people
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: predates my knowledge of what it meant to have a
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: job or a profession. So I wanted to act before
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: I knew I even wanted that to be my job.
• 46:51
  Speaker 7: Was it a center of attention kind of thing? Or
• 46:53
  Speaker 7: was it more of an art.
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: Kind of thing? Well, I think when it starts, it's
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: a center of attention thing when you're really little. I mean,
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: I was the youngest of six. And so you either
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: identify yourself emphatically... Or you kind of slip into the background.
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: You can do both things. And I really wanted to
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: make my mark. And I think it also gave me
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: an identity within my family. I was like the little mascot.
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: I would tell jokes. I would do weird tricks in
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: front of the family. And I ate it up. I
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: loved it.
• 47:30
  Speaker 7: Were you beating the rest of them to the punch
• 47:31
  Speaker 7: at that point? They hadn't really gotten that far in
• 47:34
  Speaker 7: when you were already in the plays?
• 47:35
  Speaker 8: No.
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: We all had our different roles. We just all had
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: our different roles. within the family. As far as plays went,
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: that wasn't until a little later. Like we did, if
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: we did a play in school, you know, I would
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: do it. But that didn't happen. Like we didn't do
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: plays when I was in elementary school. Doing plays was
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: something I associated with being in high school because I
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: would see my older brothers do it. And I wanted
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: it so badly. Like I would see them, you know,
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: I must have been, you know, by the time my
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: brother Jimmy started doing plays in high school, James started
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: doing plays in high school, I would have still been
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: pretty little. When he did his first one, I would
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: have been in third grade or something, and I would
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: go watch him and be like, I want to do that.
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: I want to be on stage and do that.
• 48:20
  Speaker 7: That's kind of what I was wondering as you got
• 48:21
  Speaker 7: into your interest. Is there anything that wasn't sort of
• 48:25
  Speaker 7: tainted or swayed by the older siblings? Because When you're
• 48:29
  Speaker 7: a kid, like you always kind of want to like
• 48:31
  Speaker 7: what your older brother and or sister were into.
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: For sure.
• 48:34
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 48:35
  Speaker 13: Yeah.
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: My tastes were very, very influenced by my older siblings
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: because they were the, they were the tastemakers. They were
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: the arbiters of what was cool. So when, um, that's
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: another thing I'm, I'm definitely grateful for is that, you know,
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: when I was a really little kid, you know, my
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: brothers were, were just starting to like watch the Godfather and, and,
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: You know, and taxi driver and stuff like that. And I,
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: you know.
• 49:02
  Speaker 7: Things a growing child needs.
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know. And so I think I had pretty
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: cool tastes. And I shared a room with my brother Patrick.
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: And he liked to listen to a record. He would
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: put on a record to go to sleep to every
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: single night. And so I would be, you know, whatever, six, seven,
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: eight years old. And every night I'd be listening to
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: like Elvis Costello and The Clash and The Velvet Underground and,
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: you know, the Boomtown Rats and Split Ends and Squeeze.
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: I could go on and on. Ian Dury.
• 49:32
  Speaker 7: I remember doing a lot of 1999 going at that point.
• 49:35
  Speaker 11: Yeah.
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: And so this would have been like the early... you know,
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: this would have been like the very early 80s, late 70s,
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: very early 80s.
• 49:43
  Speaker 7: The album, that was mine.
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: Oh, the album. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 49:46
  Speaker 7: I was playing that on a loop at that point.
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: But so I had really cool taste. So then when
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: I went to, you know, and I mean, I think
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: I did. I mean, whatever. I don't, that's a, That's
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: a really egotistical thing to say. It's relative. But I
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: think for a little kid in the 80s, I had
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: really cool taste. So, like.
• 50:03
  Speaker 7: What were some of the favorites that you... Maybe that
• 50:06
  Speaker 7: they didn't like as much. What were the ones that
• 50:07
  Speaker 7: were your favorites.
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: As far as film? Oh, gosh. As far as films go, I...
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: I liked, I think, a lot of the things that...
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: You know, I liked classic movies. I liked... I loved
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: Jaws and the Godfather movies.
• 50:23
  Speaker 11: And I.
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: And then I just kind of started watching everything. I
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: really love Hitchcock, you know, Vertigo, Rear Window, Psycho, the
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: big ones. And then I, you know, I love, I
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: could go on and on about movies.
• 50:42
  Speaker 7: Please do.
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: You know, yeah, I mean, it's like I don't, as
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: I got older then, I love older movies. I love
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: Preston Sturges. I love, I really, really love The Robert
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: Altman movies from the early 70s. He has a little
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: string in a row that's like MASH, Long Goodbye, California Split,
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: McCabe and Mrs. Miller, Nashville, Thieves Like Us. Long Goodbye
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: is a strange movie. And every one of those movies,
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: I think, is close to a masterpiece. I think Long
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: Goodbye is one of the very greatest films ever made.
• 51:18
  Speaker 7: I loved it, but I was just like, it's so
• 51:19
  Speaker 7: weird that they approved of it. Again, that was like
• 51:23
  Speaker 7: the 70s era.
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: It was the 70s. He could do that. Yeah, there's
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: a great book about that called Easy Riders, Raging Bulls,
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: that a lot of people have read. But just about how, yeah,
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: just kind of after Bonnie and Clyde and Easy Rider
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: were such massive hits at the box office.
• 51:44
  Speaker 7: That Hollywood for a little.
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: Eight or nine year period, they were like, they just
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: give money to artists and say, make whatever you make.
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: And movies were awesome.
• 51:55
  Speaker 7: I still reference that as maybe the best period of
• 51:58
  Speaker 7: film period.
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: It's got to be. And the other Altman movie that's
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: right after Long Goodbye, or right before, they were made
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: in almost the same year I came in, is a
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: really small movie called California Split with George Segal and
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: Elliot Gould. And that is my number one favorite movie
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: of all time, if I had to pick one. That's awesome. Yeah,
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: it's a magnificent small film. It's like so... It's barely
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: plot-driven at all. It's just almost this little tone poem
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: of these two guys. And yet what it's about, I think,
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: is sort of the biggest... thing you could possibly make
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: a movie about to me it is at least so
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: I recommend that one I still.
• 52:45
  Speaker 7: Like that comeback the beginning of his comeback I love
• 52:49
  Speaker 7: the player like to this day I think it's still
• 52:51
  Speaker 7: so solid as a weird thriller and it's funny we
• 52:55
  Speaker 7: referenced recently Griffin is sort of the villain of the
• 52:58
  Speaker 7: piece like as you get into it it's like he's
• 53:00
  Speaker 7: not really innocent in any way he gets swept up
• 53:03
  Speaker 7: in a lot of stuff but he's he's always kind
• 53:06
  Speaker 7: of behind his own maneuvers so it's interesting that He
• 53:09
  Speaker 7: is our protagonist, but he's also kind of the villain
• 53:13
  Speaker 7: of the movie. I know.
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: I think that's kind of Altman's jab at Hollywood.
• 53:21
  Speaker 7: Not so subtle.
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah. What else are we talking about?
• 53:27
  Speaker 7: Once you got to that point, as you're watching that
• 53:30
  Speaker 7: stuff as a kid, was that part clicking? Now I'm
• 53:33
  Speaker 7: a little bit older, I'm seeing these, I'm loving these movies.
• 53:36
  Speaker 7: I want to do that? Like the career part kind
• 53:38
  Speaker 7: of kicked in at that point?
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: Oh, for sure. I mean, you know, as an actor,
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: I learned over the years the difference between wanting to
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: do it because I wanted attention, you know, or whatever,
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: or just had a natural instinct to be on stage.
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: It was a journey from that to understanding sort of
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: what it meant to be an actor as a vocation,
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: as something that, like, that is not just a profession,
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: but is something that I use to, you know, to,
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: I don't know, share something of myself with the world
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: and to be a better person in general. And I
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: think that it's, you know, it takes years of actually learning,
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: you know, of learning how to do something and then
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: the struggle of trying to figure out how to do
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: it To make a living, all those things come together,
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: and it definitely changes.
• 54:38
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 54:39
  Speaker 7: I mean, those ideals are what you should approach art with, really. But, yeah,
• 54:45
  Speaker 7: it becomes a weird game of then how do you
• 54:46
  Speaker 7: make a living at it, which is kind of where
• 54:50
  Speaker 7: we lead to, I guess, because you're doing tons of
• 54:53
  Speaker 7: theater study at that point, and then feature-wise, you get
• 54:56
  Speaker 7: thrown into the tromo world.
• 54:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 54:58
  Speaker 11: Yeah.
• 54:59
  Speaker 7: I guess what is your reaction to that? Cause it's
• 55:01
  Speaker 7: its own little world.
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: Well, I was in acting school when, when my brother
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: James was, uh, was brought on to write Tromeo and
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: Juliet and he contacted me. Um, and, and one of my,
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: my good friends, um, Valentine Mealy is still a good
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: friend and, um, you know, has, uh, he's a great
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: actor and has, uh, has some like small, but really
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: good roles. And, uh, and, subsequent movies of my brothers. Um, and, uh,
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: and he and I just went to New York to,
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: to do that movie. And we just thought it was
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: the coolest thing in the world because we were just
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: acting students, you know, and we're just like trying to
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: not get cut from our theater conservatory. Cause they do
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: that because I went to a school where they, you
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: have to be asked back. They like actually make cuts
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: at the end of each of the first two years.
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: They don't do that anymore, but they did when I
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: was there. Um, and, uh, And, yeah, so we just
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: took the summer and went up and shot Tromeo, and
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: it was a trip. I mean, and then, you know,
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: it was a movie that people actually saw. Like, it
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: had a midnight screening in Chicago for a long time
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: while we lived in Chicago. But, yeah, I don't know.
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: I think it was cool. It's nice having... a Troma
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: movie be your first movie.
• 56:22
  Speaker 7: Definitely get you ready for the business.
• 56:24
  Speaker 11: It is.
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: You don't have this shock of like, oh my god,
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: I've stepped into the big time. It's almost like you're
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: still pretending that you're making movies, even though you actually
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: made one.
• 56:36
  Speaker 7: It was just Lloyd and whoever he could sucker into
• 56:38
  Speaker 7: doing things.
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: For the most part, yeah.
• 56:40
  Speaker 7: Basically, you and your friends go shoot a movie, only
• 56:42
  Speaker 7: Lloyd got a little bit more money.
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: Well, Lloyd certainly is a He's a mad scientist of sorts.
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: He's one of the brighter guys I've probably ever met.
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: And he's a great guy. But it was a heck
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: of a thing making that movie. There's a scene in
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: that movie where I get punched in the face. And
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: if you listen, the sound that it makes when I
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: get punched... is the actual sound of my nose breaking
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: when I was getting punched in the face because the
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: fight choreography was not quite on point. And it was Val,
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: my very, very close friend, who turned and just popped me.
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: And apparently they almost didn't use the real sound because
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: it sounded too fake. It sounds like a balloon popping.
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: It was just the actual sound of my nose breaking. Um,
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: so yeah, that happened. That was fun.
• 57:42
  Speaker 7: I thought the hairstyle was going to be the worst thing,
• 57:44
  Speaker 7: but that was rough.
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: Which I volunteer for. I don't know why.
• 57:48
  Speaker 7: Did they already have that in mind? I.
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: Um, no, no. We were just like, what kind of
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: crazy hairstyle can, can we have? Because my, because my
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: brother knew I would do it because I'm like, I
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: don't know what it is. I, uh, I have no
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: problem humiliating myself for things. You've had some rough hairstyles
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: over the years.
• 58:07
  Speaker 4: Or at least I.
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: Didn't used to when I was younger. I don't know
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: that I would do it quite so much anymore.
• 58:12
  Speaker 7: And again, the car scene, I assume that's where they
• 58:15
  Speaker 7: were going to kill you, but no, they'd already broken
• 58:17
  Speaker 7: your nose by now.
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, right, no. My death scene in, sorry for
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: the spoilers. By now, let's go. You only have 23
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: years to see it.
• 58:26
  Speaker 7: And it's a classical piece of literature.
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: But my death scene in Tromeo and Juliet is, I've
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: often said, the greatest scene in the history of American cinema. Um, that's,
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: that's empirically true. There's a group of students at MIT
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: who prove that.
• 58:44
  Speaker 7: Well, I didn't know, again, we can hit some of
• 58:47
  Speaker 7: the other movies, but I had to at least, I mean,
• 58:49
  Speaker 7: for years there and luckily that you're here, Misty, we
• 58:53
  Speaker 7: both spent a good amount of our time just in
• 58:57
  Speaker 7: stars hollow. And it actually was funny. I, this, passed
• 59:02
  Speaker 7: earlier this year in Lexington. You were at a festival
• 59:06
  Speaker 7: and I was actually leaving the convention and driving past
• 59:09
  Speaker 7: and you were coming back on the side. and I
• 59:10
  Speaker 7: was like that's the closest I get to Stars Hollow
• 59:13
  Speaker 7: I just passed Kirk on the street it's almost like for.
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: Just a little bit no now you're here but then
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: Stars Hollow I really did not when I stepped foot
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: into Stars Hollow in the fall of 2000 I did
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: not to be I did not expect that I would
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: be stepping foot so many more times.
• 59:33
  Speaker 7: Into another world.
• 59:34
  Speaker 1: Into that magical land. But it's been great.
• 59:38
  Speaker 7: I do, yeah. I've got a friend that he's been
• 59:40
  Speaker 7: on the show. He's given this rant on the show.
• 59:42
  Speaker 7: He's thoroughly convinced that Stars Hollow is the equivalent and
• 59:45
  Speaker 7: sort of the girl-friendly equivalent to your normal sci-fi fantasy realm.
• 59:50
  Speaker 7: Because it really is like it's old school mom and pop.
• 59:54
  Speaker 7: Every business is mom and pop oriented. There's no corporations involved.
• 59:58
  Speaker 7: And both of the Lorelais just eat junk food all
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 7: day long and continue to be thin and attractive. It
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 7: has its own weird, like there are consequences, but their
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 7: own universe consequences. And its own special care.
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think there's something to that. I definitely agree
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: that there's something about the, you know, there's something about
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: Gilmore Girls that translates very nicely to other kinds of fandom.
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: So the shows that people are really rabid about, which,
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 1: you know, particularly shows like doctor who, or, you know,
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: walking dead or something like that, that have these insane fandoms.
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: Gilmore girls seems to fit into that category.
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 7: And it seems like it shouldn't, but it does.
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 9: I agree.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: So I think analyzing why that's true is, uh, is
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: pretty fun. I don't know the exact answer, but I
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 1: do think that there's a, there's an element of, um,
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: of the world being sort of finite so that you
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 1: know everyone in town. I think it's a fantasy to
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: kind of know all your neighbors and have a feeling
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: of family when you're outside of your house in the community.
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: You still have a feeling of family.
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 7: That may be part of it. It is such a
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 7: dated Americana kind of thing that almost nowhere does that
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 7: still exist. So it is maybe just a little window
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 7: into this picture-perfect little world.
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 7: But Kirk himself is such a weird character that when
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 7: you came into it, was it really formed as that?
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 7: I mean, you kind of switched characters anyway, but once
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 7: you got to be Kirk, how predestined was all of
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 7: this that he would become?
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: None of it. I mean, I don't... Kirk was sort
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: of built on the fly in a creative collaboration between
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 1: between amy sherman paladino and myself um without ever discussing
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: it you know she would write stuff for me and
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 1: i would perform it and and i think we continued
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: to play off each other one up at each time
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: you know yeah just it just like i i get
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: would get a pretty strong sense for who kirk was
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: and then she would like take me a little bit
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 1: further with with different scripts um But, yeah, Kirk did
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: not start quite as, you know, if you see the
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: first episode where Kirk is actually Mick, the DSL installer,
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 1: that's not quite Kirk yet. Like, he doesn't, he hasn't really,
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: you know, he hasn't really fully cooked yet.
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 7: Which is usually how series go.
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 7: Especially if they're given time to kind of, like, develop.
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 7: That's usually how it is.
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: I think that I wanted to be cooler. In the
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: first episode or two that you see me, I wanted
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: to be more like that I was deadpan because I
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 1: didn't care about anything.
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 1: Because I liked playing characters like that.
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 7: If it was a one-off, you don't have to worry
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 7: so much.
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 1: Amy was smart enough to realize that it was much
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 1: funnier if I'm deadpan because I care desperately about everything.
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 1: And she sort of intuitively got that. And I think
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 1: that this is... kind of a new way of thinking
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 1: of it for me. So I'm glad to think about
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 1: it in a fresh way. But yeah, I don't know.
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: Kirk just sort of happened naturally.
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 7: And the return... You can't plan for Kirk.
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 11: Into that.
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, going back was awesome. Because I think that... I
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: think that when I was a younger actor, I was
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 1: more hung up on what my next job was than
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 1: what my current job was. And so... I really enjoyed
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: playing Kirk, but I was also kind of, you know,
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 1: I was very career focused. And then, um, and it
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 1: wasn't until later when we did the reboot that, um,
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 1: that I really, I think I appreciated the doing of
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 1: it more than I did the first time around. And, uh,
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 1: and I took great pleasure in playing Kirk again, and
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 1: I'd like to do it again now. I don't know
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 1: if it Fans ask all the time if there's going
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 1: to be another one, and I really have no idea.
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 7: It seemed like it went well.
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 1: I kind of doubt it, but you never know. It
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 1: doesn't matter, though. It's about the creative... It's about Amy's mind, really.
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 1: I think that you can't... She's an artist, and so
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 1: if there's more story to tell, and she's called Do It,
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 1: then I hope she does it. But if there's not,
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 1: then I hope she quits. And so when people bring
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 1: in any other factor, it doesn't matter to me. Like, oh, well,
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 1: the fans want it. Oh, well, Netflix wants it or whatever.
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, I get it. But it's like, we
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 1: don't have to do it. And if Amy's done, she's done.
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 1: I respect that.
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 7: I think the only strength with that is that it's
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 7: so character-based and driven and like, so you don't worry
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 7: about storylines as much as the character arc. So it's like,
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 7: as long as she, yeah, can find new things to
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 7: do with all these characters, it's worth revisiting. Well, then
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 7: I was going to at least check in on, because
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 7: some of the offshoot stuff, PG porn is amazing.
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: Thanks.
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 7: But that's where, I mean, they sort of credit you
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 7: as writing. Is that something you wanted to delve more
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 7: into and more the creative end of it? I, I
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 7: got a writing credit on that primarily because, um, the
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 7: whole concept was based on an idea that I had
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 7: had many years earlier.
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 1: Um, and, and I will, this is PG porn I'm
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 1: talking about. Um, and, uh, when I first thought to
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 1: do it, it was going to be very bizarre and
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 1: very like, um, I was, it wasn't a, it wasn't
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 1: a comedy short. It was going to be very super
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 1: realistic and, and, probably ultimately funny, but it was just
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 1: a strange idea I had that I told my brother
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 1: Brian and he thought it was funny and told Jimmy
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 1: and then we just kind of discarded it. And then
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: years and years later, um, James was approached by spike
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 1: to do some comedy shorts and he's like, what about this?
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 1: And so he, uh, and then he did everything. He,
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 1: he did pretty much all the writing for it. Um,
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 1: but I think, you know, I, whatever you get a
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: credit as part of a career, you know, as being
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 1: one of the creators. But I, um, I, I have
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 1: done a little bit of writing. Um, I have a
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 1: screenplay that I wrote, um, that I'm kind of trying
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 1: to get made right now. Um, or when I have
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: a long enough break in my schedule to be able
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 1: to do it, uh, that I really like, but I don't, I'm,
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 1: I don't consistently write. I've done it. I've done some
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: rewriting of stuff for a friend of mine, um, and
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 1: collaborated on a creation of a show with a friend
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 1: that we sold. But the actual writing of it, I
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 1: have three brothers who are professional writers, and I know
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 1: what it takes in terms of the kind of dedication
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 1: it takes. I mean, people who are writers write every day.
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 1: That's like what they do.
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 7: It's your job, and you get up and go to work.
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 1: And I don't do that, and I'm not that. But
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 1: I think from being in the business for long enough,
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 1: I have a pretty good sense of story structure now,
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 1: and I think that I can be helpful to a
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 1: project and maybe even, like I said, write something once
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 1: in a while when I really take my time with it.
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 7: Well, then I guess we had to at least hit
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 7: Guardians before we're done. What I was wondering is even
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 7: coming off of James' previous, like Super, he's getting legit stars,
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 7: but it's still a minimal budget. to jump to like
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 7: how was he and you and everybody like what sort
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 7: of shock to the system is it to then come
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 7: into Guardians is like one of the biggest budget movies
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 7: at that time I'm assuming certainly at that year being
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 7: made so it's like yeah what kind of adjustment do
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 7: you guys have to go through.
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 1: Well um you know the funny thing is is that
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 1: we talked about Tromeo and Juliet I had this I
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 1: had this flashback The first time I walked into the
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 1: production office in London for Guardians, you know, because the
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 1: production office is a whole building. And you walk in
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 1: and it's like room after room of all these wonderful toys,
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 1: you know, all these images on the wall of concept
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 1: art and all this stuff. And it's just magnificent. And
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 1: I had this immediate flashback to walking into the production
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 1: office for Tromeo and Juliet, which was like a four-story
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 1: walk up in Hell's Kitchen. And it's like two small rooms,
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 1: one which was used for casting and the other... one
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 1: which was like the production office. And, you know, it's
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 1: like just a bulletin board. And I'm like, you know,
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 1: it's funny that the size is so much different. But
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 1: it's the same thing. It's like the same place. They're doing...
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 1: they're doing the exact same jobs. They're just doing it
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 1: on a different scale. And, uh, and that was really
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 1: cool to kind of have that, that realization. Um, you know, my,
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 1: my brother likes, I think the challenge of dealing in the,
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 1: in the big, he wants as many people as possible
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 1: to see his movies. I think that's something, um, I
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 1: think that's something to admire. Like that's a type of
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 1: ambition that, um, that can be dangerous if you're not
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 1: a great storyteller, um, you.
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 7: Know, and many times over the years and you don't.
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 1: Have stories to tell.
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 16: Yeah.
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 1: But I think that there are tons of stories, uh,
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 1: in there that, um, that he wants to tell. So, uh,
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 1: so yeah, I, I, um, I think that I was
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 1: comfortable with the size of the budget. I knew we
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 1: were in good hands. I knew the script was really good. Um,
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 1: and yeah, I felt really confident about what we were,
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 1: what we were making. I think in some ways I
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 1: was less scared during guardians than anybody involved in it
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 1: because I was just confident in the process. And to
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 1: be fair, I had the least to lose. I mean, like,
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 1: you know, if that movie, you know, uh, I've heard
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 1: my brother say many times, he was trying not to
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 1: make Pluto Nash, you know, everyone's favorite movie or part
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 1: six or whatever. And, uh, and, and I was like,
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 1: if I was in one of those movies, no one
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 1: would even know. I can go on and do another movie.
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 7: It'd be kind of fun for you.
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 1: But you direct that movie and you're dead. Or you
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 1: star in that movie, you know, Chris Pratt. Those guys
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 1: could have been toast. So, of course, they were more
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 1: scared than I was.
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 7: But it was sort of a gamble, too, with the
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 7: traditional Marvel stuff. And that one's kind of off in
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 7: its own little universe, literally.
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 1: Well, that's what I mean. I was just confident that
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 1: the movie was going to be good and that we
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 1: were going to, you know, that at the very least,
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 1: we would find our audience, you know. I, I don't know.
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 1: I try not to get, uh, I I'm now, yeah,
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 1: like my, my career is finally getting to a place
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 1: where I'm, I'm less worried about next year, you know,
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 1: than I, I have been in a long time, but, um, yeah,
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 1: you know, I've been in the game for 20 years
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 1: and so you just can't get too worried about, is
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 1: this going to fail or is this going to succeed?
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 1: Because it's like, it doesn't, you know, your worry is, um,
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 1: It just has no use. Being afraid has no value
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 1: to you as a creator.
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 7: It can just hurt, really, more than anything. It makes
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 7: you question your own judgment. Were you ready for the
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 7: motion capture? Had you ever played with that in the past?
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 1: I constantly have to make this distinction. It's not actually
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 1: motion capture. What I do is motion reference, which the
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 1: difference is that motion capture... They're actually using a computer to...
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 1: There's an algorithm which assists in turning my movements into
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 1: the movements of the computer-generated character. With reference, all I'm
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 1: really doing is just acting the role. I'm just getting
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 1: down on my hands and knees, and I'm just acting
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 1: it as though I'm playing the character. And then the
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 1: other actors have somebody to act off of, and then
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 1: the visual effects team... just can actually look at my
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 1: performance as a reference when they're animating the character as
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 1: much as they want to. So they know then that
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 1: if I'm turning my head or if I'm shrugging or
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 1: if I'm doing any of those things, it gives them
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 1: kind of a square one jumping off point for what
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 1: rocket's going to do.
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 1: But they can't do it through a computer because my
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 1: body is nothing like a raccoon's computer, like a raccoon's body.
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 1: And my face is nothing like a raccoon's face. Um,
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 1: so if, if they did traditional motion capture with like
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 1: all the little whites and balls, um, rocket would look terrible.
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 1: It would just absolutely not work at all. So, um,
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 1: so what we do is a little different. And, uh,
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 1: And we kind of made it up on the fly.
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 1: I think my brother knew he wanted an actor that
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 1: he could trust so that Rocket was as real as
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 1: possible when the other actors were interacting with him, that
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 1: they would be real. And we found that if I
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 1: just got down on my hands and knees and started
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 1: doing it, that that was sort of the best way
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 1: so that when they were looking at a face, when
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 1: they were looking at Rocket's face, they're at least looking
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 1: at a face. They're looking into eyes. I mean.
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 7: He's become, that's the thing, it could have just been
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 7: a gimmick, and he's, even in the first one and
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 7: now the second one, he's become a pretty, not just
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 7: well-rounded character, but kind of deep and damaged, and you
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 7: see all the layers that he has that you might
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 7: not expect from an animated raccoon.
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely. I think that the idea that Rocket is something,
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 1: obviously Rocket is totally different from any other creature in
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 1: the universe, but But from a storytelling perspective, the idea
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 1: that he's something separate from Star-Lord or Gamora or Drax
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 1: is not something we ever wanted to look at the
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 1: character as being like, oh, well, he's the mascot. You know,
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 1: he's the funny one of the four of them. It's like, no,
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 1: it's about, you know, the Guardians is about a coming
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 1: together of five different, now six, I guess, with... with
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 1: Mantis but like but the first movie is like five
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 1: different parts coming together to make one whole and they're
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 1: all orphans all five of them are orphans in their
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 1: own sense and Rocket is just one of those to
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 1: look at him as being different because he looks different
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 1: kind of goes against the point of the movie so
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 1: we always were like he has to be absolutely as
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 1: realistic as possible That was always the goal from day one.
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 1: So we're like, how have CGI characters been done in
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 1: the past? It doesn't really matter because we're going to
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 1: try to do something different here. So that's how it
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 1: ended up. It just ended up being really helpful to
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 1: the other actors to have me there. The visual effects
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 1: team was happy to have a jumping off point. And
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 1: I understand that Bradley is also helped by it.
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 11: Yeah.
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 1: When he gets into recording to really put all the
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 1: pieces together and make one character whole from all these
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 1: disparate parts, there's a kind of continuity to the whole thing.
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 1: There's a glue that kind of holds it together. So
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 1: I think it's really worked out well.
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 7: Yeah, you've done a great job. Anything else you want
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 7: to get out there coming out soon?
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 1: Well, I've been working... What I do for Rocket and Guardians,
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 1: I've been doing on Avengers all year long. So we've
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 1: been shooting and I'm doing a lot of that. I
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 1: have two movies lined up that I'm going to start
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 1: early next year that I'm really excited about. They're a
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 1: little different for me. It's like a comedy and a drama,
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 1: but they don't take place in outer space or in
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 1: Stars Hollow, so that's something new for me. But I'll know...
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 1: more about those soon. So I'm just trying to stay
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 1: busy doing a bunch of conventions.
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 6: Awesome.
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 7: It's good to see you, man.
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 9: Thanks.
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 7: Thank you for being on the show.
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 11: All right.
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 1: Appreciate it. Thank you.
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 4: Sean Gunn's way hotter than I thought he was going
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 4: to be.
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 7: Well, I kind of mentioned he's got good hair now,
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 7: but well.
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 4: His eyes are just dreamy. I'm not going to lie.
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 7: But yeah, he's got good hair too. And they give
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 7: him the worst hairstyles in all these movies. I was
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 7: going back and watching, not just the horrible nightmare that's
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 7: going on in Tromeo and Juliet, which I guess, no surprise,
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 7: it is Tromeo and Juliet.
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 4: I think I got like 10 minutes into that movie
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 4: and then I was just like, fuck this shit, I
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 4: can't do it. Oh, I think I remember. Well, I remember.
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 4: I think you were there.
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 7: Oh, I know. I remember. I remember watching it all eventually,
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 7: but yeah, I don't know.
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 4: I just. I was just, I was violent. I was like, no,
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 4: you need to stop this shit right now.
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 7: You're just not a Tromeo fan.
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 4: I am Tromeo.
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 1: Tromeo. Troma.
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 4: I am not. I don't think I have successfully watched
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 4: one Troma movie.
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 7: I like some of the stuff they picked up. They're decent.
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 7: I mean, again, Lloyd is a genius businessman, so he is.
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 7: gotten some stuff for cheap and distributed things that i
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 7: enjoy but his like cliche normal trauma style movies i'm
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 7: not usually what i'm looking for but yeah not so
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 7: but people love it so more power to him again
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 7: i think lloyd himself is a fascinating character but yeah
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 7: the tromeo and juliet aside it was some of the
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  Speaker 7: other like it's the other one super he's got he's
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  Speaker 7: got a weird buzz cut on the side haircut too
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  Speaker 7: they keep giving him terrible hair And he's a crazy
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  Speaker 7: alien sometimes.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know.
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  Speaker 7: They make him do... Well, mostly his brother. Makes him
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  Speaker 7: do a lot of weird stuff. So, points to Sean
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  Speaker 7: for hanging in there. Being a sport. All right, Misty.
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  Speaker 7: We're about to round this out. Any more? We did
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  Speaker 7: buy our toys.
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  Speaker 4: Bought some toys. I'm pretty excited about that.
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  Speaker 7: I got a big surprise. Universal Monsters.
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  Speaker 4: I got the blood splattered Sam Supernatural.
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  Speaker 7: What a surprise as well.
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  Speaker 4: And a Gremlin.
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  Speaker 7: The Gremlin was cool though. Had you not bought it,
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  Speaker 7: I might have snagged him too.
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  Speaker 4: And a bobble of the Mystic Seer devil head.
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  Speaker 7: That one was pretty cool.
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  Speaker 4: I know. It was pretty cool.
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  Speaker 7: If you weren't a dork that already had a Mystic Seer,
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  Speaker 7: it might be cooler, but you're that level dork.
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  Speaker 4: So it's okay. I have the big deluxe edition that
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  Speaker 4: actually works. I have the small bobble head that works.
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  Speaker 7: It actually works. It actually traps you in a small town.
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  Speaker 4: It does.
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  Speaker 7: It's deluxe. So, of course, we'd like to thank Fandom
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  Speaker 7: Fest for letting us come here and be part of
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  Speaker 7: the show. Again, their website is fandomfest.com, so go there
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  Speaker 7: and see what's in the works next time. Otherwise, Misty,
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  Speaker 7: we're ready to get on out of here.
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  Speaker 4: I got places to be.
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  Speaker 7: All right, then. Otherwise, that about does it. We will
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  Speaker 7: return next time, same geek feed. Thanks for listening.
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  Speaker 4: Bye.
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  Speaker 5: I'm as crazy as a loon. I'll be in the
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  Speaker 5: bug house soon. Because I can't do that dance they
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  Speaker 5: call a raccoon.
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  Speaker 3: High blow, low blow, intermediate make believe they're all collegiate
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  Speaker 3: soon to do the raccoon.
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  Speaker 17: ¶ You know that raccoon coats don't care who's wearing them.
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  Speaker 5: ¶ Hallroom boys will all be sharing them pretty soon.
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  Speaker 5: ¶ To do the raccoon, what a tune they play.
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  Speaker 5: ¶ Why, every day its popularity grows.
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  Speaker 17: ¶ I warn you, what.
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  Speaker 4: A dance to keep you on your toes.
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  Speaker 17: ¶ I warn you, grab a girl and start to
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  Speaker 17: hurry her.
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  Speaker 5: ¶ right down to some great big hurry or mighty soon.
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  Speaker 4: ¶ You'll have to do the raccoon.
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  Speaker 10: ¶ We need to get out of here. I didn't
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  Speaker 10: know that's what this was. Okay.
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  Speaker 8: We can re-look.
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  Speaker 10: I'm so sorry.
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  Speaker 7: I didn't know for sure that's what they were still
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  Speaker 7: using this for.
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  Speaker 10: I won't be very long.
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  Speaker 4: Now that we got kicked out of the fitting room.
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  Speaker 7: Well, if she just would have changed in front of us,
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  Speaker 7: we wouldn't have had any problems.
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  Speaker 4: If we didn't have to wander there for a second,
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  Speaker 4: I thought she might have.
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  Speaker 7: I mean, it's that kind of show.
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