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Lunch with Friends - Triston Patrick | CrossFit Games Coach · Clydesdale Media Podcast

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So I have two friends.
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One of my friends said this friend that's
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gonna be on the show got put in
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the friend zone.
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We're gonna find out more right after
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this.
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Let's go.
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What is going on, everybody?
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It is lunchtime.
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Time to get busy with lunch with the
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Clydesdale.
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We've got so many people in the house.
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Corey Leonard, Jenny from Dense Updates,
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Lido.
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Listen, this is my time.
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My time.
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Let's make that perfectly clear.
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No, it's all right.
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I don't own any time.
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He can be on whenever he wants.
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We got Megan.
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We got Jody.
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We got Shay, Kenneth, Terry, Meredith.
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Holy crap.
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Corey's jazzed.
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What is going on?
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Corey's jazzed.
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And Kenneth, thank you for the,
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take a second to like, subscribe,
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support the show for free.
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Yes,
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we are thirty six subscribers away from
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three K.
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Thirty six subscribers away from three K.
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I would love to hit that by the
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end of the year.
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We made a nice bump yesterday.
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So, yeah,
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keep hitting that subscribe button.
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People tell your friends,
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tell your family all of that.
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They're Shanna.
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And we got Yuki, what?
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I think that is Denise Moore,
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and she has just changed her name.
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So, and with us today,
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we have Tristan Patrick, head coach,
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Ascend athlete.
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Yes.
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And good friend.
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We've been hanging out for the last couple
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of years at the games and different
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events.
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You are a coach of elite athletes.
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What's going on, brother?
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Living the life, dude.
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Qualifier season is in full swing,
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so people have been doing TFX qualifiers,
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Fittest of the Coast.
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Got Jacob getting ready to go to Crash
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this weekend and getting ready to go
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celebrate my wife and I's first wedding
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anniversary this weekend.
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So where are you heading?
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We're going to go out past Austin.
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We're going to go glamping.
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have you heard of glamping i am aware
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of yeah so never have secluded area half
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tent half uh modern amenities uh my wife
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very much likes having showers and air
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conditioning and those things but we're
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just gonna go get away for a couple
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days take the dog just relax
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Yeah,
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my wife and I tried camping one time,
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and she made it abundantly clear that that
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would be the last time we tried camping.
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Yeah, Courtney went camping with me once,
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and I grew up in northwestern New Mexico,
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so camping there is great.
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You go to Colorado, it's beautiful,
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it's cool, it's amazing.
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we went camping with some friends down
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here in east texas not so great not
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so cool lots of bugs uh wife was
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not thrilled but camping is not for the
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faint of heart yeah so i've i'm determined
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to eventually get her to go camping again
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but it'll be out in i'll take her
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to like new mexico or colorado or
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somewhere where it's good camping
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It's funny because my daughter moved to
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Montana earlier this year,
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and they go camping like every other
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weekend.
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Yeah, it's probably great.
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Right?
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They go into the mountains.
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They go by the lake.
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They go paddle boarding.
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They do all the stuff.
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They take the dogs,
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and they have a blast.
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But it has snowed twice there already.
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Dang.
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So it looks like the weekends of camping
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are all over.
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Yeah, probably.
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Yeah.
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Joseph says,
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all you need for camping is a good
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bottle of tequila.
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I mean,
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that definitely can make it a better
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experience.
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Yes, Corey, you're right.
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Glamping is camping for bougie people.
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I think what's happened is YouTube is
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trying this thing where they're showing
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your username instead of your real name
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now.
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Oh, maybe.
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Yeah.
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It happened on like a couple months ago,
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and now I'm getting hit by it.
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Interesting.
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That's why we have Yuki Zazie,
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and I don't have Joseph's first name up
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on the board.
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Now I'm going to have to remember
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everybody's name, which is crazy.
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Yeah, it'll be fun.
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I'm excited.
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Yeah, good times.
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So let's talk.
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Again,
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these friends with episodes are just us
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shooting the shit.
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We're just going to shoot the shit.
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But recently you made the news.
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Hattie Kenyo was on Glidden Things.
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And she announced that she had left your
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coaching expertise to try something new.
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You were in the chat at the time.
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You have a friend named Corey who's kind
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of an asshole.
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In the chat,
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he said that you were put in the
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friend zone.
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I mean, it kind of feels like that,
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right?
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No, it's kidding.
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To be clear,
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there was no romantic implications in that
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at all.
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And Corey wasn't making that implication.
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But it's got to feel at some point
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like you've worked with this individual
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for a long time.
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You finally get her to the CrossFit Games,
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and then she wants to try something new.
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It's got to be a gut punch at
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least a little bit.
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Sure.
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Yeah.
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I mean, it definitely, I mean,
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I didn't love it.
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Right.
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I think, I mean,
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you know me pretty well at this point.
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I'm pretty logical with most of my thought
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processes and things like that.
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And something I've actually said for
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years,
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I've joked with about with my wife before
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and our other coaches is every athlete you
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ever coach will fire you.
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For one reason or another,
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the day will come where...
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It could be for retirement.
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It could be for another coach.
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It could be whatever.
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And as a coach,
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I want it to be retirement.
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I want it to be I'm stepping away.
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I want it to be whatever.
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But it's an inevitable eventuality that at
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some point,
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it's going to be I think I need
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to go somewhere else to get what I
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need, right?
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uh so like it sucks but it was
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bound to happen eventually i think um
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obviously this is for me the kind of
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first time this has happened um but at
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the end of the day like and i
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told hattie this when we talked she needs
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to do what she thinks is best for
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her obviously i would have loved to
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continue to work with her and help her
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keep chasing down her games goals and
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things like that but
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I understand.
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Like, I get it.
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Right?
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So, kind of stinks for sure.
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But, I mean,
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I have nothing but love for Hattie.
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Like, we had a hell of a ride.
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I think...
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I don't have a ton of like, gee,
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I wish I would've like,
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of course you look back in hindsight and
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there's things you could have done better
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things you didn't know at the time,
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you know, whatnot, all of that stuff.
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But I'm super proud of the work that
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she was able to do.
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And we were able to do together.
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Um,
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and I hope that she has continued success.
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So there's some questions in the chat I
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want to bring up, but this one first.
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I'm not kind of,
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I am one hundred percent.
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So if people don't recall,
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you kind of got into individual coaching
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when Kelly Baker wanted to make a run.
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Yes.
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You got her to the games.
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Yes.
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She fires you because she wants to start
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a family.
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Selfish.
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Completely different reason.
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And in fact,
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she has been very successful in that
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endeavor.
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Yes, she has.
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Right.
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So now she's a mother and she's moved
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on with and it's and it's really cool.
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As you were working with Kelly,
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you had a group of athletes kind of
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come to you.
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And one of those was Hattie.
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Um,
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and so you started working with her and
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you get her to the games.
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Does it get any easier as you move
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forward or is it,
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is it tough every time an athlete's like,
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I need to take a step back?
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Oh, or is it different for each athlete?
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I think it's different for each athlete.
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like with kelly b it was i mean
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we did the thing like we we did
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the thing and the next chapter was always
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probably going to be different um with
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hattie it was like okay we got there
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and then we got there again after a
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rough and tumble kind of year.
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And I didn't necessarily expect that to
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end.
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Right.
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So a little bit different for sure.
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And I think it's different with,
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with all athletes,
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even athletes that I coach who are not
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games athletes and are semifinals athletes
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or quarterfinals athletes.
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And they decide to leave for one reason
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or they have to leave.
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I think it's different because each
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relationship with each athlete is
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different.
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So I know the answer to this,
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but I'm going to ask it for Jody.
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Did you coach her when she was in
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Bali?
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Yes.
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Yeah, the last time she was in Bali,
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I was coaching her.
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So I always ask you a question almost
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every time we talk.
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You're probably sick of me saying it.
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But in light of what's happened,
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I want to ask it again.
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I know what this question is.
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So...
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In management classes,
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they describe managers as two types of
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people.
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And that is,
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are you the person that likes to build
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the thing from scratch?
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Or are you the person that likes to
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polish the talent that's already there?
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And so I've asked you that question a
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million times.
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And I think it's been a fluid answer.
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I think it is, yeah.
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Depending on where you are.
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So at this point...
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Where do you put yourself as?
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Are you the builder of the talent or
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the polisher of the talent?
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I think I'm probably still better equipped
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to build the talent.
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I think if you look now, granted,
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I haven't.
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Like Hattie went to the games once she
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went was our year.
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It was obviously crazy.
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She made it back last year or this
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year.
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Placement wasn't quite as good as the year
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prior, all of those things.
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I think it's,
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I think you have to have a lot
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of time to continue to polish something
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almost, if that makes sense.
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Um,
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but I think my interpretation of just
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visually watching you over the years,
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right?
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Sure.
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I think you're really good at building it.
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You haven't had the opportunity to polish
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it.
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And that, and that may be true.
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I also even, and you could ask the,
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like the onsite athletes that we have down
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here in Houston,
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who I see train multiple times a week.
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And I mean, you could ask,
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you could get some good stories out of
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Jacob too.
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Uh,
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I think my disposition is probably
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naturally more of the kind of person who
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can build.
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I very much will try to pull it
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out of people in a positive way in
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training, but also in a direct way.
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And I think part of that comes from
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my time in the military and things like
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that.
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It's almost like the scene from Armageddon
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where they're all going to flight school
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and the pilot instructor is like,
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I'm going to twist you and I'm going
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to do whatever.
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That is a lot of how I operate.
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It's a very positive environment.
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but you're going to go through it.
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But I know that that's what you need
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to do to reach where you want to
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go.
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And I know what kind of hammers to
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use at what times for that kind of
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building or like forging process.
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I think it's also more fun.
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I mean,
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we had an athlete doing the TFX qualifiers
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who was a,
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he's been trying to make pro for a
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little while and they had an event,
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one of the workouts that ended on like,
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like a, like a, like a, like a,
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like a, like a, like a, like a,
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like a, like a, like a, like a,
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like a, like a, like a,
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Like, I don't care.
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Find a way to go faster.
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And one of my other athletes came up
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to me.
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It was like, you said that.
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And I was like, whoa.
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It was like, yeah,
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like I'm pulling it out of him.
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Find a way to go faster.
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It's a fifty pound dumbbell.
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You deadlift like six hundred pounds.
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Figure it out.
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Right.
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So I think my disposition might be
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naturally toward what you have kind of
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said from day one.
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But.
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I'd like to polish some more, right?
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Well,
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and I'm going to say this because I
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don't want you to have to make excuses,
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right?
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Sure.
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Kelly Baker's goal was to make it to
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the games.
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You did that.
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She then retires to become a mom,
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and you really never had the opportunity
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to take her a step further.
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She was on the brink of top twenty.
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Mm-hmm.
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Right.
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Truly,
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she was top twenty because someone
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withdrew and it just happened at a weird
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time.
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And yeah,
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but she didn't really get credit for it.
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Right.
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Right.
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And you never got the opportunity to
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polish it for the next season.
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Hattie, you have the wild,
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wacky Lazar death situation that isn't
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even – it makes it hard to even
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judge how that game's went.
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And then at Guadalupalooza,
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she injures herself,
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and you have no training time between then
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and this year's games,
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and you still get her back,
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but you didn't really get the chance to
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polish it.
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You were just in survival mode for the
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season.
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Very much so, no.
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And when I finished the second piece of
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the documentary,
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you'll see that is what was happening.
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This year's games turned into survival
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mode because of everything she'd been
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through throughout the year.
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And then people like Jacob,
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you haven't hit the first goal yet.
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You're still in the building process.
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You need to get him to the games.
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And so I don't think you've had the
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opportunity to polish.
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Yeah,
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and I think probably if we went back
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through all the different coaches' resumes
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or not resumes, but I guess just history,
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they probably had a time where they were
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building more than they were polishing.
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And then they got people there
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consistently and they figured out that
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kind of side of things.
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Or they came in super early and had
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an athlete make it and then continue to
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make it as the field got harder.
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So they were kind of polishing as they
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went.
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versus having to build an athlete in the
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modern era where it's a little,
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it's just more competitive, right?
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So I think it's probably a natural
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evolution.
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Dan Church,
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his knives keep getting stolen before he
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gets to sharpen them.
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That's funny.
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So on another note,
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we've hit that to death.
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Don't need to keep dwelling on it.
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WFP.
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WFP.
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If I am accurate,
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none of your athletes participated in WFP.
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No.
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Madison McElhaney did one of the
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qualifiers at the very beginning of the
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year.
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And that was it.
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Was that a strategic decision on your part
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or just circumstances led to that?
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She just wanted to give it a rip
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and see.
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Yeah,
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but your other athletes did not
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participate.
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Was it strategic or was it just...
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They have no interest.
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Okay.
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I'm not going to make them do something
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they don't want to do,
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especially if they have to do another
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qualifier on top of the qualifiers that
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are already required during that time of
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the year, training.
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Why would I...
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if you don't do the whole season,
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it's not a ton of a point as
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far as I understand it points wise and
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things like that.
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So I didn't really push anybody to do
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it if they didn't have interest already.
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You are knee deep in the semifinal level
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athletes.
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Um,
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you've taken them and you've built them to
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games athletes.
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Is there, is there, uh,
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a way of looking at WFP that you
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think is beneficial for those athletes?
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Or do you think because of the qualifiers
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and when they fall,
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it just isn't conducive for that level of
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athlete to use as a buildup?
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It's just at the wrong damn time of
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the year, man.
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It's logistics.
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Yeah, it's just logistics.
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It's good for athletes who are semifinals
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level or trying to breach semifinals
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level.
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to get off-season competition experience,
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get reps at things.
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That's why TFX, Fittest of the Coast,
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Wadapalooza,
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that's why those places get attendance
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from that level of athlete,
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and it's always kind of on the calendar.
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But their qualifier is just before or just
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after the Open,
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which will be right around...
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quarterfinals this year it's just
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logistically if it's not an athlete's
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number one it's not going to make sense
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for them to do logistically because you're
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going to have to put something else as
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a secondary priority right and
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I heard James Sprague talk about this on
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Boys Interrupted that because of the way
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the season went this year,
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he couldn't get a cycle in,
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like a strength cycle in that fit within
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the year because he was always competing.
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Mm-hmm.
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If this is maintained forward,
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are athletes going to fall apart because
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they don't have the time to build?
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It's just going to be sustained.
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Or am I just wrong?
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Like Carolyn Prevo would tell me,
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I don't train to build.
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I train to be fit all year round.
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But then you're not getting better.
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right so like that's the that's like the
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so you can you say i'm gonna do
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all these things and then you're basically
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just running from peak to peak or trying
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to hold a peak as long as you
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can so then you're you're not really
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training and then you're kind of at that
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like trying to hold a peak for a
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long time is where you get like the
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injury risk right
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Or you say, I'm just going to,
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I'm going to maintenance is what the
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programming talk is.
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I'm going to maintenance all year.
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I'm just going to hold my level of
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fitness and I'm going to maintenance and
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do all these competitions.
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Well, it's fine.
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You might get marginally fitter,
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but you're not going to make the forward
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progress that you could if you actually
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trained like training adaptation.
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Right.
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Um,
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And then the other response is, well,
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I need to train to get better,
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so I'm going to not do one of
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these things or X, Y,
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and Z of these things.
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It varies a little bit depending on,
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I guess,
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what the athlete needs to get better at,
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what they need for training,
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and how long it takes.
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Strength takes time.
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That's why James probably brought that up.
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Yeah.
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if you,
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you need time to move through a lifting
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cycle consistently to get progressive
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overload or to get the end result of
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the program, right.
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Endurance training.
22:43
Yeah.
22:43
It's similar,
22:44
but like there's a little bit room for
22:46
more room for variance and things like
22:48
that.
22:49
Um,
22:50
Yeah, exactly, Corey.
22:53
I just think it puts people in a
22:55
subpar spot and you're just not going to
22:58
have the training time to improve.
23:02
well and James has always had like he
23:05
has one big hole and it is strength
23:08
right the rest of the stuff he has
23:11
improved so tremendously and got to a
23:14
great place that he's going to be
23:15
competitive at every comp if he can negate
23:19
the damage of the strength of it yeah
23:22
and I mean there's ways to program where
23:25
you can get
23:30
I don't want this to be a programming
23:31
show,
23:33
but you can get marginal strength gains or
23:38
strength improvements by doing low rep,
23:42
high intensity lifting because you're just
23:44
getting the CNS to adapt,
23:46
which is what you would want to do
23:48
to keep volume low if you're just going
23:49
from competition to competition.
23:52
But you're not getting...
23:55
the raw strength adaptation of having
23:58
eight weeks to go through five by five
24:01
or, you know,
24:02
like that's kind of the thing that he
24:04
probably felt like he was missing.
24:08
Because that stuff takes time and takes,
24:11
you need to recover from it and things
24:13
like that.
24:15
Corey Leonard McElhaney,
24:16
like the Tabasco people.
24:18
No, it's a great analogy.
24:22
If people don't know Madison story,
24:24
like she is one of my favorite athletes
24:26
in the space.
24:27
She's great.
24:28
She is a former UFC fighter who went
24:34
undefeated in five attempts,
24:37
broke her ankle in her final match and
24:40
continued on with a broken ankle and
24:43
She is such a badass.
24:46
Such a badass.
24:48
She's awesome.
24:48
I love Maddie.
24:50
Yeah.
24:52
She's just one of my favorite people to
24:53
watch.
24:53
And she's so freaking strong with the
24:57
Olympic lifts.
24:59
And if you looked at her,
25:00
you'd be like, nah.
25:04
But yeah,
25:05
she does so much with so little.
25:08
That little body.
25:08
Anyway.
25:09
Yeah, I think the WFP thing, though,
25:11
for most of my athletes has just been
25:14
mainly a logistical thing.
25:15
And then knowing, like,
25:17
I go do one and then what?
25:19
Right.
25:20
Yeah.
25:22
When I think like that first year,
25:24
this first year has been such a debacle
25:27
with the picking of the twenty.
25:30
Like who got it, who didn't get it.
25:32
Yeah.
25:33
Yeah.
25:34
Now,
25:34
I think the ship will righten somewhat as
25:37
now you're earning that spot in the top
25:39
twenty.
25:39
Sure.
25:41
And then it gives you a goal to
25:43
shoot for, but yeah.
25:46
We don't have to talk about WFP for
25:48
the whole thing.
25:50
Any other thoughts on the CrossFit Games
25:53
season coming up or that we just had
25:56
that has been rattling around in that
25:59
brain of yours?
26:02
Um...
26:05
This year was a lot.
26:07
I think with the way semifinals was set
26:09
up, um, just very not,
26:14
I guess a little disjointed was the word
26:16
probably.
26:17
Um, the games was great.
26:20
Um, I mean,
26:22
Albany is not what I would call a
26:24
destination, but, um, the games was great.
26:27
It felt like the games, um,
26:30
the vibe was really good.
26:32
Um,
26:35
I think the field was nice and competitive
26:39
as well.
26:40
Um,
26:40
overall the men's men's race was obviously
26:43
super entertaining to watch.
26:45
Um, yeah,
26:47
I'll be curious to see the direction they
26:49
kind of go this next year.
26:50
I think, um, I think it'll be good.
26:55
I feel like we're going to get the
26:56
semifinals kind of being outsourced again.
26:59
Um,
27:00
and we'll just kind of see what events
27:01
they end up picking and things like that.
27:04
Um,
27:07
Yeah,
27:07
I think it all depends on the partnership
27:10
level.
27:11
Right.
27:13
So the one thing that has me optimistic
27:17
is when you look at Wadapalooza SoCal and
27:20
the entire games team being at Wadapalooza
27:23
SoCal.
27:25
Right?
27:26
Yeah.
27:26
Now you're talking to Dylan,
27:27
you're talking to the organizers,
27:30
and that becomes a partnership now as
27:32
opposed to a competitor, right?
27:35
right if crossfit is going to continue in
27:37
this partnership mentality with these
27:40
third party um semifinals then i think
27:44
that we have a better shot at a
27:46
better season moving forward yeah i agree
27:51
hundred percent um
27:55
Hold on.
27:56
No one wanted to go to the warm
27:57
welcoming.
27:58
That is Albany.
28:00
It was hot in Albany.
28:01
It was toasty.
28:02
Yeah.
28:03
It wasn't about the weather.
28:05
It was just about the surrounding area.
28:08
Yeah, it was a little.
28:09
Once you got in the venue,
28:11
it was pretty good.
28:14
Yeah, I liked the venue.
28:15
The floor and the lighting and all that
28:18
stuff were really good.
28:20
I wish Vendor Village was closer.
28:23
Yeah, I only went like once.
28:25
Well,
28:27
I went to the upstairs one a couple
28:30
times,
28:30
and then I went once to the one
28:32
in the street.
28:34
Well,
28:34
the one in the street was closer for
28:35
the spectators because they had to enter
28:39
through that way to get into the venue.
28:43
The one where the athletes were,
28:44
which was convenient for us,
28:46
that's where media and athletes were
28:48
housed,
28:48
that's the one I went to as well.
28:51
But it just having it in a separate
28:53
building was very weird.
28:55
Yeah.
28:56
I could see how that would be.
28:57
Even the athletes in a separate building
28:58
was weird.
29:00
Yeah.
29:01
We were kind of in our own little
29:03
realm most of the weekend.
29:05
Yeah.
29:07
But again, back to the partnerships.
29:10
If they continue with this partnership
29:11
stuff, like NorCal Classic,
29:15
if they get some partnering with the games
29:18
team to say, hey,
29:19
you can't do this event.
29:21
There's no way it's going to be fair.
29:23
Or just some expertise or some knowledge
29:26
to say,
29:29
Don't have a curved start line.
29:31
Let's go with a straight start line.
29:36
I think NorCal has a ton of potential,
29:38
for sure.
29:40
When I think about NorCal being there this
29:42
year, it's like a fever dream.
29:44
It was just so insane, dude.
29:47
It was so insane.
29:49
It has all the vibes of what you
29:50
want to have a CrossFit competition to
29:52
have.
29:53
yeah it was great right it just the
29:57
execution fell a bit short it was just
30:01
it was it's definitely a comp i will
30:04
never forget going to that's for sure but
30:08
great vendor village vendor village was
30:10
huge great community event yeah tons of
30:14
people while they're watching
30:16
yeah crowd crowd was lit too so all
30:20
of that cool stuff if we could just
30:22
clean up a little bit of the stuff
30:24
on the floor yeah and all the stuff
30:26
that was like the issues everybody made a
30:28
big deal about it's very fixable right
30:33
like very very fixable stuff so the gator
30:37
push you had to know that there was
30:39
going to be a problem with that from
30:40
the start you had to know yeah the
30:44
old gator push
30:46
Well,
30:46
they're switching it to a Gator Wrestling,
30:48
apparently, to Dan Church.
30:51
Gator Wrestling for an event this coming
30:53
year.
30:54
They can get some gators from Corey down
30:56
in Louisiana, take them out there.
30:58
The problem is they're going to have to
30:59
get the exact same gators to wrestle so
31:02
that everybody has a fair opportunity to
31:05
pin and win.
31:08
Same weight, same tooth length.
31:10
Yeah.
31:10
Right.
31:11
Tooth length is important.
31:13
Same bite force.
31:14
That's probably important.
31:15
Yeah.
31:17
Yeah.
31:17
Same age.
31:19
You don't want a geriatric gator and then
31:21
a young spry gator.
31:23
Yeah.
31:24
Yeah.
31:24
Right.
31:26
Yeah.
31:26
I'm optimistic for this year though.
31:27
I think, I mean,
31:30
obviously the media has been in a really
31:32
good direction.
31:33
I feel like there's some momentum coming
31:35
off the games.
31:35
They've kept it through the last couple of
31:38
months.
31:41
Like to see the open,
31:42
get really hyped up again, all that stuff.
31:47
Of course is F that constantly varied
31:49
Gator.
31:49
Yeah.
31:55
Well, you know,
31:57
I do think they've been heading in the
31:58
right direction.
31:59
They had F the quick fix.
32:04
Loved it.
32:05
Right.
32:06
That is dwindling down now.
32:08
And Jenna just announced that their new
32:10
campaign is starting October.
32:12
Okay.
32:14
So they have a new one coming out,
32:16
which I find that that's cool.
32:19
Now you're getting people excited about
32:21
the next one before it even happens.
32:23
Yep.
32:24
Hopefully it lives up to the same thing.
32:25
We the same level of what we've seen
32:28
so far from Jenna and her team.
32:32
I feel like it'll be great.
32:33
I don't know if it'll hit as hard
32:35
as fuck the quick fix did.
32:38
Cause that was like,
32:40
hadn't had anything like that in years you
32:43
know yeah i mean i remember when i
32:44
opened my phone and i saw that i
32:46
was i was like yeah we're back so
32:50
i do hope it is though kind of
32:53
the attack on the glp ones and at
32:56
least have that like one thing we can
32:59
gather around and go against because
33:03
that's what we've been missing yeah they
33:05
haven't had a common enemy yeah
33:10
Can you truly standardize a machine?
33:14
I mean, yes, technically,
33:17
but there's probably some variance at all
33:21
the events between machine to machine.
33:27
We've learned it's a lot easier to
33:28
standardize a C-tube machine than an
33:31
aerosol machine.
33:35
Yeah, anything with a fan, though,
33:37
is going to have a variance.
33:38
Yeah.
33:41
Yeah.
33:42
And that is every machine.
33:44
Yeah.
33:45
You can't, I mean, even just the,
33:48
the chain, the fan, the sensors, the,
33:52
yeah.
33:54
The C two stuff is usually close enough
33:57
that it's not,
33:58
it's not really throwing anybody for a
33:59
loop though.
34:03
Yeah.
34:03
Cause we've even had trouble with the
34:04
runners, right?
34:06
Mm hmm.
34:08
was it europe a couple years ago there
34:12
was like that one lane it was the
34:13
year kelly made the games there was like
34:16
lane four lane eight something like that
34:18
yeah yeah there was one of them at
34:21
west uh at the the west regional that
34:24
year that was i think if you went
34:25
back and looked at the heat sheets like
34:28
that lane was always a little slower yeah
34:31
lane eight yeah
34:37
favorite memory from that year was uh was
34:40
kelly doing the tumble over the sandbag to
34:44
finish has the game's position locked up
34:48
trips and falls over the sandbag has to
34:50
re-clean it and and i died inside and
34:58
then them wait twenty five minutes to
35:00
announce
35:04
Yeah,
35:05
that was probably the longest twenty five
35:07
minutes of my life at that point.
35:10
That was I also now that I'm a
35:14
little bit away from that can appreciate
35:18
how manic I probably looked in the coach's
35:21
pit.
35:23
like trying to do the math,
35:25
not having enough times,
35:27
not having enough,
35:29
like not just trying to figure it out
35:32
and then just being absolutely stressed
35:34
out of my face.
35:36
Um,
35:37
it was like the first time I really
35:38
interacted with Kiefer and I,
35:40
I've always thought in the back of my
35:41
head,
35:41
he probably thought I was a psychopath
35:45
cause I was freaking out,
35:47
but
35:47
Yeah,
35:48
I think every coach is doing that in
35:50
those moments.
35:51
Dude, that was rough.
35:56
Because the year before that was where,
35:58
I think it was the year before that,
36:00
at Syndicate,
36:01
when Rebecca Fusile made it to the games,
36:04
and it was one point between her and
36:06
Brooke,
36:07
one point between her and Kelly Clark.
36:10
Yeah.
36:11
So two points separated fourth to sixth.
36:15
You imagine those coaches afterward?
36:17
No.
36:19
Stressed.
36:23
Yeah.
36:23
Trying to add everything in your head,
36:25
trying to remember every time.
36:28
Yeah.
36:29
It's,
36:29
it's so hard to keep track of it
36:31
all too.
36:31
And then like,
36:32
you have to have the point table on
36:33
hand trying to do math.
36:36
Yeah.
36:36
So how do you,
36:38
do you have like a piece of paper
36:39
and you're writing down people's times
36:41
from other heats that may affect it?
36:43
Are you a scout team dog?
36:46
You are,
36:47
you got to have a scout team.
36:48
Oh,
36:51
so you have someone there who writes down
36:54
the time or score of every person and
36:56
all the heats that go before my athletes.
36:59
and then they reorder it for you and
37:01
tell you... Well,
37:04
I'll usually just have that with me,
37:06
so then I can... Like,
37:09
Jacob and I did that at TFX.
37:11
He would be in the warm-up area,
37:13
and we would be like, okay, cool, like...
37:14
this is kind of the top time to
37:16
start game plan.
37:17
We should be fine.
37:18
Like you're probably just going to be
37:19
competitive with the guys in this heat.
37:21
We shouldn't really have to worry about
37:23
these guys from the previous heats.
37:24
Right.
37:25
Or, okay, this is a really good score.
37:26
This might hold up like,
37:27
cause this is kind of what we were
37:28
mathing.
37:29
So maybe that was a good event for
37:30
that guy.
37:31
If we don't know them, like,
37:32
or know what they're capable of.
37:34
Um,
37:35
And then you can kind of,
37:36
I'll reorder them in my phone on a
37:39
note while my athletes are corralled to
37:44
know the best time, second, third, fourth,
37:45
fifth, et cetera.
37:47
And then I'll get the time of when
37:50
my athlete finished to then put them in
37:51
that order to know what they got in
37:53
the event before.
37:54
So I won't necessarily know the points
37:56
immediately,
37:57
but I'll know the placing pretty quickly.
38:03
Because that year with Kelly,
38:05
Bailey came out of nowhere.
38:07
She destroyed that event.
38:11
And she qualified for the games on that
38:13
event.
38:15
And I wasn't even thinking of her as
38:18
a factor,
38:19
but she did so well in the event,
38:21
she jumped everybody.
38:23
It was wild.
38:25
Yeah, she destroyed that event.
38:27
And when they announced her,
38:28
at that point, I thought Kelly was out.
38:30
So did I.
38:32
So did I.
38:33
Kelly looked over at me at one point
38:35
and she was like, what's up?
38:38
And I told her, I said,
38:39
I don't know.
38:40
Like, I don't know.
38:42
I had given up trying to do the
38:43
math.
38:43
I was like, I'm not going to know.
38:44
I don't know.
38:45
talked to her backstage right after and
38:47
that was her exact i kept looking at
38:49
tristan and he he's like i don't know
38:51
i don't know i don't know i'm sorry
38:54
i told her i don't know and then
38:56
she looked away and i got her attention
38:58
again and i was like it's okay like
39:02
like don't it's just it's okay like it's
39:04
gonna be what it's gonna be so yeah
39:08
that was a wild
39:10
That was a wild first semifinal coaching
39:13
experience.
39:15
I was at Granite Games the year before
39:17
with a team,
39:17
but having that many indies in a team
39:21
was a lot.
39:24
So what's up next for you?
39:29
Some people are doing a local comp here
39:31
in Houston in December,
39:34
but I don't think I'm traveling anywhere
39:37
until TFX.
39:42
I don't know if I'll make it out
39:44
to Fittest of the Coast this year.
39:47
So should just be cruising until TFX.
39:51
And then it'll be kind of batting down
39:53
the hatches for the season because TFX is
39:55
usually two to three weeks before the
39:57
open.
39:58
So then it'll be kind of get into
40:01
all that.
40:03
So no, sadly.
40:08
So it's our,
40:10
it's Corey and I's anniversary, Jenny.
40:12
Our anniversary is the eighteenth.
40:15
And not Corey Leonard.
40:17
Yeah, not Corey Leonard.
40:20
So we're going to go outside Austin.
40:24
I wish...
40:25
JR,
40:26
if you watch this and you want to
40:28
do me a favor,
40:28
never have Crash on the eighteenth again.
40:31
That would be great.
40:34
So, can't make it this year.
40:36
Thank you, Jenny.
40:38
Won't be able to make it this year.
40:39
I'm sure eventually I could probably
40:42
convince my wife to go out there and
40:44
we could do something for our anniversary
40:46
a different weekend,
40:47
but that was not a battle I was
40:50
going to win for our one-year anniversary.
40:54
What do you mean you didn't know?
40:57
Well, let me tell you this.
40:58
As someone who's been married almost
41:00
thirty years, it's even still tricky.
41:05
I'm sure.
41:07
I'm sure.
41:09
Yeah.
41:09
It bums me out.
41:11
I mean, I loved Crash when I went.
41:14
I didn't get to go last year, obviously,
41:15
because it was...
41:16
I think the date of Crash was the
41:20
week before our wedding.
41:23
So I didn't go last year, obviously.
41:24
And then now...
41:26
Not going this year.
41:27
So I haven't been since I went with
41:28
Jamie that year.
41:30
Nothing says romance like Spartanburg,
41:32
South Carolina.
41:34
Put that on a postcard.
41:38
Yeah, he won.
41:39
He won for revving up for Crash.
41:42
Oh, she asked how Jacob will do.
41:46
I think if Jacob executes well,
41:53
that he will be on the podium.
41:58
Do you feel,
41:59
I've heard from people who will look at
42:01
programming,
42:02
that this seems a little heavy.
42:06
And that would be Jacob's thing.
42:10
Yeah.
42:11
Yeah.
42:11
I mean, JR flat out said, I think,
42:13
in the spin when he announces the heaviest
42:15
crash he's programmed.
42:19
Which is why, like, as a coach,
42:22
and I'm obviously biased...
42:24
I have found some of the predictions a
42:26
little funny.
42:28
It's the heaviest crash ever.
42:31
The one,
42:33
the thing Jacob is the best at is
42:35
picking up heavy objects.
42:38
He's very strong.
42:39
So obviously I'm confident that the work
42:42
we've been doing in the off season has
42:45
paid off as well on his fitness side.
42:47
So I'm excited for him to just go
42:49
and get after it though.
42:50
He had a lot of fun at crash
42:51
last year.
42:53
I think he'll do well.
42:55
I think he'll do very well.
42:56
Cool.
42:58
Yes.
42:59
Yes.
42:59
Colton smash for sure.
43:02
Um, yeah.
43:04
Crash is super cool.
43:04
I'm really bummed that I won't be out
43:07
there, but it is what it is.
43:10
Yeah.
43:10
When Jamie and I were looking at on
43:11
Sunday night,
43:12
like I think Reese Littlewood is one of
43:14
the next big things to come down the
43:15
pipe, but this is not her event.
43:19
It's just too heavy for her.
43:21
Yeah.
43:21
Um,
43:24
And so, to me, it's a Kyra,
43:26
Caroline Stanley event.
43:30
Yeah.
43:31
I think those two are going to have
43:33
a great weekend.
43:37
So,
43:38
it will be interesting to see him up
43:39
against my guy, Jace.
43:41
Jace will do well.
43:44
There's not enough.
43:47
Jace will do well on the machine event.
43:50
And Jace will do well on probably the
43:53
running and pulling event.
43:56
Best event?
43:57
Best event.
43:57
Let me think.
44:15
Corey, love your girls.
44:17
Love talking to them.
44:18
Think they're awesome.
44:20
I don't think this weekend is for them
44:23
in the podium area.
44:24
Yeah.
44:26
I think...
44:31
I think his best event will probably be
44:35
the flip sled strict.
44:40
I'm trying to think of the other guys
44:41
in the field a little bit too,
44:43
like what can they do on some of
44:45
these events.
44:52
I think...
44:56
I think that one will probably, yeah.
44:59
Prestance.
45:00
I think that will more than likely be
45:05
his best event.
45:07
I think he can do well in most
45:09
of them.
45:11
Um,
45:15
I'm pretty confident in how he can do
45:17
on open season,
45:18
which is the front squat workout,
45:21
but there's a lot that goes into that
45:24
workout.
45:24
And I don't know, you know,
45:27
a hard thing with predicting where your
45:28
athlete's going to fall is like,
45:29
I'm not a full-time analyst, right?
45:31
I don't know intimately the other guy's
45:34
abilities.
45:35
I know what some of these guys are
45:37
good at and this, that, the other,
45:39
but it's not my full-time job.
45:43
Yeah.
45:44
Yeah,
45:44
you didn't make Media Hill last night.
45:46
I did not make Media Hill at all.
45:51
Nope.
45:51
The Ascend Athlete podcast did not make
45:53
Media Hill, sadly.
45:56
Were you sad about that?
45:57
Did you feel friend-zoned about that?
45:59
I did not feel friend-zoned about that.
46:01
we, I love doing our podcast.
46:03
I I've done some episodes recently where
46:05
I've had other coaches on and that's
46:06
something I want to get back to after
46:07
our, after my trip this weekend.
46:09
But, uh, I, we are a coaching company,
46:14
not a media company.
46:15
So the media output on our podcast will
46:19
always be at the mercy of how busy
46:21
we are as coaches.
46:23
Cause that's what we do is we coach
46:25
athletes.
46:25
Yeah.
46:25
I, uh,
46:27
I've just given you a shit anyway, but,
46:29
um, uh,
46:32
It was interesting, I will say that.
46:35
It was nice to be mentioned.
46:38
I may try to go listen to that
46:39
just for funsies.
46:41
I've listened to a couple of their
46:41
episodes.
46:42
I haven't listened to the whole till yet
46:43
because the Bears were on last night and
46:46
the Bears won and I was all about
46:48
the Bears.
46:48
And then I got,
46:49
there was a last minute cancellation with
46:52
a pulmonology person today and I took
46:55
that.
46:55
So I went up to a neighboring town
46:57
for that and I've not been able to
46:59
go back and watch the whole thing.
47:01
I did cheat and go to where I
47:03
was and see what was mentioned about me.
47:04
Right.
47:06
who i am yeah totally it's all about
47:09
me and uh just saw that but i
47:12
need to go back and see what they
47:13
say about all the other media people in
47:15
this space yeah i'll be curious what they
47:17
say so wait there's an ascend podcast this
47:23
is why i didn't know we had an
47:24
anniversary i'm hearing of this yes sir we
47:29
sure do cory i even knew that we
47:33
sure do trying to do an episode a
47:35
week
47:37
This one that we did today was just
47:38
going over the next cycle of programming
47:40
for our Sugarwad program and kind of the
47:42
time of year for one-on-ones.
47:45
It's fun.
47:45
Yeah.
47:46
I do want to say publicly that Dallin
47:48
Pepper is my favorite athlete.
47:53
I think he's going to win the twenty
47:54
six,
47:55
the twenty seven and the twenty eight
47:57
games.
47:59
Just oh,
48:00
and Shanna says Dallin Pepper had nice
48:02
things to say about you.
48:03
Oh, did he?
48:04
Did he?
48:05
No.
48:05
What a coincidence.
48:08
Didn't know.
48:09
But yes,
48:10
Dallin Pepper will win the next three
48:12
CrossFit games.
48:13
Handedly.
48:15
It'll be a runaway win.
48:21
The media list made just about as much
48:23
sense as John's Mountain.
48:25
I agree.
48:27
I think it's all just...
48:29
willy nilly, but to be mentioned that I,
48:31
they even knew who I was,
48:33
was a flattering enough for me to be
48:36
in the runoff section of the mountain.
48:38
Um, but at least I'm there.
48:41
Yeah.
48:41
Or not the mountain, the Hill,
48:43
the runoff section.
48:44
At least I wasn't kipping it real down
48:46
in the trough where all the runoff ends
48:49
up.
48:51
John's games, mountain of episodes, uh,
48:57
I just ignore any rational thought to how
49:02
he picks.
49:02
Because I'm not even concerned about that.
49:06
I love listening to him and Tyler.
49:10
Because Tyler just freaks out at some
49:12
point.
49:13
And it's so funny.
49:16
Yeah.
49:18
I...
49:22
Here's what it is.
49:24
I thought initially when he first did it,
49:25
it was pretty creative.
49:27
And I thought he did a pretty good
49:29
job.
49:30
I think now he's almost using it as
49:35
leverage with the athletes.
49:38
And if you hit his favorite,
49:41
like Austin Hatfield,
49:44
then up the mountain you go.
49:47
Just to back what he's thinking.
49:49
sure i mean it's hard to not have
49:53
it's really hard to not have recency bias
49:57
it's hard to not have confirmation by us
49:59
bias when you like it's very difficult
50:03
And what's funny about John,
50:05
and we don't need to go on about
50:06
him, but he'll be like,
50:09
what have they done?
50:10
What have they done?
50:11
And that's why they're down at base camp.
50:14
But Austin Hatfield will win the games.
50:18
What has Austin Hatfield done?
50:20
You just like him, so he's up there.
50:24
He gets fired up about it.
50:25
It's fun.
50:26
The criteria is fluid at best.
50:30
Yes.
50:32
Yes.
50:34
Yeah.
50:35
But here's the thing.
50:36
We all watch it.
50:38
And we all talk about it.
50:41
Yeah.
50:41
It's super entertaining.
50:43
So it's doing what they need to do.
50:46
Corey, did I pronounce bias strange?
50:52
I'm pronouncing it by ass from now on.
50:55
Did I enunciate too much?
50:59
Redundancy bias.
51:00
Yeah.
51:03
Corey, you need to come train.
51:05
I know you don't live that far away.
51:10
He's got small children, man.
51:13
He's got to be in bed by six
51:14
thirty p.m.
51:17
He needs to eat his baby food at.
51:25
I'm just giving him crap.
51:26
Because that's why he can never come on
51:32
the Sunday show or anything, because like,
51:34
well,
51:34
I've got to get my kid into bed
51:35
and then that I have to be in
51:36
bed at like six thirty and.
51:38
Yeah.
51:42
the Houston are you on the gym is
51:45
just technically slightly on the west side
51:50
but it's in the heights it's basically
51:51
smack dab in the middle of the city
51:57
because Houston is an hour away from
51:58
Houston that's a fact Corey only has an
52:04
alligator drawn carriage it doesn't get a
52:07
ton of miles
52:14
yeah I live in Houston and I drive
52:16
like forty minutes to the gym excuse me
52:19
yeah it's I hate to keep bringing up
52:22
Kelly Baker but I would interview her
52:25
during when we when we followed her
52:26
through the season mm-hmm
52:29
And she would say that too,
52:30
that everything is an hour away in
52:32
Houston.
52:33
And so she would be in the car
52:34
driving telling me how bad of a driver
52:37
she is.
52:38
And then like looking at the phone while
52:41
she's driving to talk to me.
52:43
And I'm like, I'm going to get a,
52:45
like a crash live on air during this
52:50
thing.
52:50
Yeah.
52:51
Yeah.
52:55
Houston traffic is crazy too.
52:57
I mean,
53:00
jenny lives north side of houston i'm sure
53:03
she can tell you too like she's still
53:05
in the chat the houston houston traffic's
53:08
wild people drive insane here sometimes
53:14
most about myself uh dude i love to
53:17
i'd love to i train mostly by myself
53:19
but i may be getting a new training
53:20
partner after next month nice training
53:25
alone could be a grind
53:26
Corey is actually old and he needs to
53:29
go to bed that early.
53:32
Fair.
53:33
He needs to recover.
53:34
He's working hard.
53:36
Yeah.
53:38
Well, man, it's been a blast,
53:40
but probably time to get back to work.
53:43
unfortunately i gotta head back you
53:45
knuckleheads you get back to work as well
53:48
and we'll see everybody and corey will be
53:50
on here tomorrow to defend himself uh from
53:53
all the hate and vitriol um and we
53:57
will see him tomorrow with me on lunch
54:00
with the glidesdale bye guys