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Sofia Smallstorm | Blood Guac, The Archonic Underworld, & Fortifying Our Divinity · The Higherside Chats

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  hot from the sunshine state. I'm Gregg Carlwood.
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  And when you know the power of the
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  PR marketing machine and the attention grabbing algorithmic
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  everything,
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  it's easier to see that people's focus is
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  often directed towards a few highly charged stories
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  Untold corruption, secret agreements, hidden agendas, unseen operations,
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  and an endless list of things one must
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  go out of their way to learn about.
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  And one of those dedicated to deeper dives
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  outside of the conventional informational quarantine is the
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  great Sophia Smallstorm.
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  She's been here 5 times before talking about
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  everything from Sandy Hook strangeness, geoengineering, and cell
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  phone radiation to transhumanism,
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  biological darkness, and the dangers of oxidative stress.
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  bringing
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  subscribers new information found in her own self
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  directed research rabbit holes and also blogs at
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  about the sky.com
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  and maintains a store of health promoting damage
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  mitigating products at avatarproducts.com.
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  Back after 4 long years, the Federation of
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  Natural Life Freedom Fighter oxidative stress alarm sounder
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  and geoengineering
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  educator, Sophia, welcome back.
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  Greg, I'm really happy to be back because
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  it was 4 years, and so many people
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  were telling me, why aren't you on Fireside
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  Chats? And I said, he has disappeared.
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  Ah. And you did. You disappeared to bug
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  land.
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  Bug land. Yes.
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  Or Gaitersville, as I like to say. And
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  it has its advantages and disadvantages.
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  It's true. But it is what it is.
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  Anyway, how are you doing? Hopefully, not near
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  any fires.
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  No. The fires are right around the corner
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  as they would say in New York.
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  No. You have bugs. We have fires.
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  No. It's terrible. We know what these fires
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  are. We know what they come from,
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  and I'm writing a newsletter on that now.
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  I always write these newsletters. I fill stuff
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  in, and I think of how to pull
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  in another thread. I think of these things
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  in the middle of the night, Greg.
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  I wake up and I go, oh, I
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  have to put this in the newsletter, and
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  then it's a struggle.
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  Should I get out of bed and write
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  this down, or am I gonna remember until
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  the morning?
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  And I tell myself, you must remember this
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  until the morning.
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  Well, I know you don't have Wi Fi
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  on, so you can actually think at night.
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  I can think at night. Yes. And I've
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  learned a lot of things about those. We
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  have to get back into sync, into a
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  group. But let's this will be our experimental
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  show. Okay. Okay? If I leave the show
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  abruptly,
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  it'll be a no go.
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  Well, hopefully, that won't happen.
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  But it is nice to talk to you
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  again after so long. You were kind enough
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  to send me the last few newsletters, and
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  I read them all. Lots of diverse topics
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  and off the radar information.
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  I figured we could start with blood guacamole
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  or this really interesting deep dive you did
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  into the cartel controlled avocado trade. I have
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  had a few guests who focus on the
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  cartels and their drug and human trafficking,
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  but it's very concerning that those black market
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  profits are now monopolizing
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  legal markets with the same cutthroat practices and
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  violence.
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  Talk to us about some of the surprising
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  things you learned on this.
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  First of all, Greg, I haven't met a
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  single person who doesn't like avocados.
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  You know? Yeah. It's almost like baby food.
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  It's baby food. It's a great color.
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  It's so creamy.
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  It has a little taste of onion.
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  It slides down your throat.
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  Somebody told me they put it in smoothies.
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  People make pudding out of it, sweet stuff.
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  I cannot imagine. My
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  brain and sensibilities
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  cannot go in all those directions.
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  But there was a time when the avocado
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  was unpopular,
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  if you can believe it.
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  So California,
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  the lovely land that you left
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  so abruptly
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  for your own reasons, California,
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  you know, they were
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  promoting
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  property,
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  tract of land sales with citrus. They would
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  tell
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  potential homeowners,
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  oh, buy this house because it has citrus
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  trees around it, and you can pay off
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  your mortgage because you will have oranges and
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  lemons.
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  So this was going on, I think, in
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  the early part of the 1900,
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  and then
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  that started to go stale,
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  and
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  they had to come up with another gimmick,
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  the developers in California, how to sell land.
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  And
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  they tried all kinds of different fruits,
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  kumquats,
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  and different things like that. Nothing took until
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  they tried the avocado.
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  And then they were actually publishing ads showing
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  drawings or pictures
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  of avocado trees with dollar bills hanging from
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  the branches.
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  And there was a postal worker. His name
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  was Rudolph Haas, h a a s. This
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  is 1925.
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  He worked at the Pasadena post office. He
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  made 25¢
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  an hour.
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  Okay?
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  And that's not much.
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  He
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  had,
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  with the help of a horticulturist,
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  because avocados are not easy to grow, but
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  he had seen this picture of this
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  avocado tree with dollar bills hanging. And then
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  he plundered his savings and borrowed from his
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  sister, and he bought a piece of land
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  with avocado trees on it. And he learned
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  how to
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  graft,
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  which is a horticultural
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  technique,
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  with the help of a real horticulturist.
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  How to graft avocados and get a hybrid?
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  And so
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  he made this tree
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  that was an improvement on the Fuerte type
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  of avocado, which was, I guess, the most
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  popular one at the time.
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  And
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  it was then named the Hass avocado
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  after
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  he began to sell it to his friends
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  at the post office
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  for several dollars,
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  4 or 5
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  avocados
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  in a bag,
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  he sold for $1. But imagine that's 4
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  hours of work. Right? So his tree was
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  producing tremendous amount of fruit, and avocado is
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  actually a fruit. It's a stone fruit.
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  So this Haas creation,
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  he had patented it in 1935,
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  and it is now the champion of all
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  avocados.
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  It is smooth and fatty inside.
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  It is dark and nubby. It has a
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  tough outer skin. The Florida avocados where you
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  are, I think they are thinner skin,
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  and they're more watery.
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  So the oiliness of the host,
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  it slides down the throat even better. You
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  know?
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  And the Hass avocado
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  was
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  something that managed to take off worldwide, and
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  that was actually
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  the feat
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  of,
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  shall I say this or show you?
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  Remember 911
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  and the Kuwaiti ambassador's daughter
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  who gave the talk before
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  congressional
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  group.
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  She was representing
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  I'm sorry. I I haven't No. It's all
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  good. I actually do have this here because
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  I mentioned PR and marketing in the intro
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  because this did really stick out to me.
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  But you wrote, if you remember the incubator
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  baby's story that got America into the 1st
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  Gulf War, this was tearfully told by a
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  young Kuwaiti girl to the US Congressional Human
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  Rights Caucus in October of 1990 describing Iraqi
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  soldiers looting incubators from a Kuwaiti hospital
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  and dropping the babies on the floor.
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  The story was made up as part of
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  a PR campaign to hustle public support for
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  the US led liberation of Kuwait from Iraqi
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  occupation. It worked. The Washington DC public relations
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  firm
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  Hill and Knowlton,
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  had been paid 10,700,000
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  by a group calling itself citizens for a
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  free Kuwait to sell the war to the
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  world as news programs later reported when the
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  stunt was exposed.
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  And we have the very same outfit, Hill
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  and Knowlton, to thank for the modern avocado
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  craze, which quadrupled consumption
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  of the bumpy pear in America in 2022
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  or by 2022,
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  thanks to prime time Super Bowl ads pushing
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  guacamole
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  and avocado
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  toast at the turn of the century.
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  So I do think that's really interesting. I
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  just like hearing more examples
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  of how the public's attention is directed
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  and how demand is manufactured,
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  even in areas where you wouldn't expect. People
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  always say Edward Bernays is the father of
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  the modern American breakfast.
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  Eggs, bacon, all that stuff. Because he was
• 13:37
  like, how can I take all the pieces
• 13:38
  of the farm, put it on one plate,
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  and sell it to people? Because everything you
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  find is a $1,000,000,000
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  business to somebody somewhere,
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  and nothing ever really seems to be organic.
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  Nothing ever really seems to just
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  come
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  naturally without being
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  shepherded along by someone making money somewhere.
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  Yeah. So organic in that sense, yes. But,
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  Greg, I also learned, and this is quite
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  fascinating, that
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  avocados,
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  even if they're not grown organically
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  in soil that's not treated with chemicals,
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  and they're usually
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  more expensive, the organic avocados. But doctor Mercola
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  reported several years ago that his people, whoever
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  they are, tested
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  the conventionally grown avocados, and there's no trace
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  of pesticide in them.
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  So you can buy the conventionally grown avocados
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  and feel pretty confident that you're not getting
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  a big dose of pesticides
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  because it's that skin that's so hard. I
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  mean, it repels insects.
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  The other thing is, though, that you are
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  probably buying from a cartel.
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  Yeah. That is the thing.
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  So
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  this is kinda where the story really pops
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  off is
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  you talk about this one region,
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  mikokan,
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  Michio kan,
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  and that's where 45 of all avocados
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  consumed in the US are grown. It's the
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  most important avocado producing region in the world,
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  accounting for nearly a third of the global
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  supply.
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  This cultivation requires a huge quantity of land,
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  much of it found beneath native pine forests
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  and even
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  more startling quantities of water. It's often said
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  it takes about 12 times as much water
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  to grow an avocado as it does a
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  tomato.
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  You say recently competition for control of the
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  avocado and the resources needed to produce it
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  has grown increasingly violent often at the hands
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  of cartels a few years ago. In nearby
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  Europan,
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  19 people were found hanging from an overpass
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  piled beneath the pedestrian bridge or dumped on
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  the roadside in various states of undress and
• 15:51
  dismemberment, a particularly gory incident that some experts
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  believe
• 15:56
  emerged from cartel clashes over the multibillion dollar
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  avocado trade.
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  I mean, wow. It really almost sounds silly
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  for that sort of violence to be about
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  avocados, but money is money.
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  And
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  I worry that if they make this big
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  pivot, which already seems to have been made,
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  there's nothing illegal about selling avocados. So
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  you can funnel black market business to legitimate
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  businesses,
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  and then you're just entrenched in building wealth.
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  And if you have these
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  monopolistic,
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  very cold hearted practices, you know, you can
• 16:32
  deal with things as they come up, but
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  you become a little bit more ingrained in
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  conventional society and the conventional economic structure.
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  Greg, let's give credit to the source of
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  this avocado information,
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  which triggered
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  my whole interest in cartels.
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  It came from the Harper's Magazine,
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  the literary magazine, not Harper's Bazaar. The November
• 16:56
  2023 issue, there was an article titled Forbidden
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  Fruit.
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  And this was the article that talked about
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  the cartels
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  having infiltrated the avocado market.
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  So some of the things that you read
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  are actually quoted from Harper's. I just wanna
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  clarify that some of the stuff you read,
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  and I say it's from my newsletter. And
• 17:16
  the only way people are gonna find that
• 17:17
  out is to subscribe to my newsletter for
• 17:20
  god's sake. Right?
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  Always be closing.
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  So, Greg,
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  the reason that
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  it takes 12 times the water to grow
• 17:29
  an avocado
• 17:31
  that it does for a tomato,
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  look how watery a tomato is. The avocado
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  is rich. It's fatty. It's high energy. So
• 17:38
  it takes so much more
• 17:41
  energy from the earth, which is basically plants
• 17:44
  are drinking up water.
• 17:46
  It's the water,
• 17:48
  the amount of water consumption that is a
• 17:50
  factor in the richness of the avocado.
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  So what's happening in Mexico is that these
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  cartels
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  are running the avocado business. They are
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  just cutting down trees,
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  the native pine forests, which keep Mexico
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  properly hydrated. Let's just say the land. So
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  the land is drying up. The pines actually
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  release water into the air, and the avocado
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  suck water out of the ground.
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  But it's such a big business because there's
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  such a popularity
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  all through the world now for avocados,
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  particularly in America,
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  that these cartels,
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  they take money from the growers for every
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  kilo of harvest.
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  And so the cartels are chopping down the
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  pine forest. They're replacing them with avocado saplings
• 18:38
  that are sucking up the water and drying
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  up the country.
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  This is why
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  the avocado
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  business is referred to in Mexico as blood
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  guacamole.
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  And the trees that are growing there are
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  the Hass variety,
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  which is a hybrid of Mexican and, I
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  believe it's Guatemalan
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  avocado strains.
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  But
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  all of these trees come from that first
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  tree that Rudolf Haas grafted in his backyard
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  in Pasadena
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  in the 19 twenties.
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  So
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  we are looking at control of a country,
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  and that's where I go with the rest
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  of the newsletter.
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  But we have to talk about that little
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  independent
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  Mexican
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  state, Charon,
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  because they've done something pretty unusual.
• 19:28
  Yes. Very inspiring. Maybe we could take a
• 19:31
  page out of their book, but tell the
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  people about Charon.
• 19:34
  So, apparently,
• 19:37
  the Mexican constitution
• 19:39
  guarantees
• 19:40
  indigenous communities the right to autonomy.
• 19:44
  And in 2014,
• 19:46
  the courts of Mexico
• 19:48
  recognized the municipality
• 19:50
  of Cheran, c h e r a n,
• 19:53
  as
• 19:55
  autonomous sovereign.
• 19:56
  And so it, at the same time, was
• 19:59
  entitled to apparently 1,000,000 of dollars a year
• 20:02
  in state funding.
• 20:03
  So now it's an independent
• 20:05
  zone.
• 20:06
  And because it was granted its independence,
• 20:11
  it changed its whole infrastructure. So I'm gonna
• 20:13
  quote from Harper's.
• 20:15
  The townspeople of Turan kicked out the police
• 20:17
  and local government, canceled elections, locked down the
• 20:21
  whole area.
• 20:23
  Cheran reopened with an entirely new state apparatus.
• 20:27
  Political parties were banned. A governing council had
• 20:30
  been elected. A reforestation
• 20:32
  campaign was undertaken to replenish the barren hills.
• 20:36
  This means the places where the pines have
• 20:38
  been cut down and the avocados were growing.
• 20:41
  Right? Military force was chartered to protect
• 20:44
  the pine trees and the water's supply of
• 20:47
  the town
• 20:49
  and new water filtration and recycling
• 20:52
  programs were created, and the avocado was outlawed.
• 20:55
  Okay. No more avocados
• 20:57
  in Sharon.
• 20:59
  And so they took over, and there are
• 21:01
  signs throughout the little
• 21:03
  area. Planting of avocados is prohibited.
• 21:07
  The community police force, the new police force,
• 21:09
  wears fatigues,
• 21:10
  black jackets with helmets. They carry AR fifteens,
• 21:13
  and they have instructions to destroy avocado trees
• 21:16
  wherever they find them. And anyone who grows
• 21:19
  the illegal avocado will have his land taken
• 21:22
  by the government.
• 21:23
  So they are breeding pine trees in the
• 21:26
  town nursery, and they're planting them where the
• 21:29
  avocado groves once stood.
• 21:31
  And this is their
• 21:33
  reforestation
• 21:33
  program. They are a mere 20,000
• 21:36
  people,
• 21:38
  and
• 21:39
  this is what they've managed to achieve.
• 21:42
  So they changed the gun. They kicked out
• 21:44
  the cartel.
• 21:45
  Yeah. You know, we're led to believe the
• 21:47
  cartels are so powerful and so bloodthirsty and
• 21:51
  violent that you can't do any of that,
• 21:53
  but here we go.
• 21:55
  Now,
• 21:56
  Greg,
• 21:58
  I did read in that Harper's article that
• 22:02
  there was another
• 22:03
  sovereign area that got its independence in 2018.
• 22:07
  But, apparently, now the cartels have infiltrated what
• 22:12
  are called
• 22:13
  autodefenses.
• 22:14
  These are groups that defend
• 22:16
  themselves.
• 22:18
  And now you can't even tell
• 22:20
  what's
• 22:21
  real defense, citizen defense, and what's a cartel.
• 22:25
  We always say in the alt media movement
• 22:28
  that the bad guys infiltrate
• 22:30
  us.
• 22:31
  And today, I've never heard of
• 22:34
  us wanting to infiltrate the bad guys. Right?
• 22:37
  Right.
• 22:38
  Oh, why don't we? What's the matter with
• 22:40
  us?
• 22:42
  Well, I think the reason is because
• 22:45
  the bad guys, you know, are kind of
• 22:46
  the established
• 22:48
  structure, and anyone who gets brought into the
• 22:51
  established structure
• 22:52
  is
• 22:53
  immediately suspected of of being dirty. So it's
• 22:57
  really hard to
• 22:59
  be a
• 23:00
  champion of the light when you're
• 23:03
  swimming around in the darkness because we've been
• 23:06
  made to be so skeptical over the years
• 23:08
  that no one would trust that person to
• 23:10
  actually be trying to do anything good.
• 23:13
  You mean if we come back to our
• 23:15
  our group,
• 23:16
  having once infiltrated the cartel let's call we
• 23:19
  are run by cartels. You know? That's the
• 23:21
  reality.
• 23:23
  And these cartels have apparently existed
• 23:25
  for a very long time. In the middle
• 23:27
  ages, they were merchant groups,
• 23:31
  and they ran things.
• 23:33
  So the definition is a group of producers
• 23:35
  who collude to control the supply or prices
• 23:37
  of a type of good or service.
• 23:39
  So, oh, they were merchant guilds,
• 23:41
  guilds and syndicates,
• 23:43
  associations
• 23:44
  of craftsmen.
• 23:45
  Right. British East India Company, that kind of
• 23:48
  thing.
• 23:49
  Right. But even smaller groups than that. So
• 23:51
  we've always had
• 23:53
  these
• 23:54
  cartels
• 23:55
  hanging around,
• 23:57
  hovering,
• 23:58
  breathing down our necks. And then we had
• 24:00
  these
• 24:01
  larger groups that use cartels to run economies,
• 24:05
  these authoritarian
• 24:06
  regimes.
• 24:08
  So now, you know, we have
• 24:11
  the world being run by
• 24:13
  ugly black cartels, basically.
• 24:16
  That's what I think.
• 24:18
  Well, I agree with you. And the whole
• 24:20
  idea of infiltration
• 24:22
  of
• 24:23
  the cartels I mean, let's just say the
• 24:25
  American
• 24:26
  machine, the big superstructure
• 24:29
  of government colluding with these
• 24:32
  robber barons, these cartels, if we wanna use
• 24:34
  the term.
• 24:36
  You know, a lot of people think that
• 24:37
  has happened. I don't really think so, but
• 24:41
  we are recording this right before a new
• 24:43
  administration
• 24:44
  or an old administration
• 24:45
  retakes
• 24:46
  control,
• 24:47
  and a lot of people think that this
• 24:49
  is an infiltration
• 24:51
  of the traditional system
• 24:53
  by people who do have good intentions.
• 24:57
  You know, that's obviously out there. I'm curious
• 24:59
  what you think about it. By the time
• 25:01
  this goes out to people, the inauguration will
• 25:03
  have likely already happened. But I know you've
• 25:06
  followed RFK Jr for a long time,
• 25:09
  and that's kind of gotta be something that's
• 25:11
  a little bit interesting, if not actually exciting,
• 25:14
  that he would be involved in things at
• 25:16
  a high level considering
• 25:18
  what he says.
• 25:20
  Now there's a lot of people talking about
• 25:21
  that whole thing being infiltrated
• 25:24
  and that they've had to sit down and
• 25:26
  negotiate
• 25:26
  deals where it's like, look. You can talk
• 25:29
  about seed oils, but you can't talk about
• 25:31
  vaccines anymore. We can solve this problem over
• 25:33
  here. We'll let you do that, but you're
• 25:35
  not gonna upset this over there. And because
• 25:38
  you're right. It is all cartels. There's money
• 25:40
  flowing in certain directions,
• 25:42
  and any truth that's a threat to that
• 25:46
  has to be carefully negotiated down so that
• 25:50
  the same old people can make the same
• 25:52
  amounts of money. But
• 25:54
  in terms of infiltration, it's just funny you
• 25:56
  bring it up because that conversation, though I
• 25:58
  think it might be naive, is happening right
• 26:01
  now. I'm curious what you think. Well, Greg,
• 26:04
  I believe that these appointments,
• 26:07
  like RFK Jr, have to be approved by
• 26:09
  Congress. Right?
• 26:11
  And so
• 26:13
  if and when that happens,
• 26:14
  that's really the determining factor.
• 26:18
  Is he ever gonna do anything? And then
• 26:19
  you're right. He can talk about seed oils,
• 26:21
  but he might be told not to talk
• 26:23
  about this, that, or the other thing.
• 26:25
  Lot of Kennedys have been bumped off.
• 26:28
  That's a scary
• 26:29
  thing.
• 26:31
  But the government of Mexico,
• 26:33
  I found this very interesting,
• 26:35
  apparently begged its cartels to please put their
• 26:38
  profits in the national banks
• 26:41
  because, otherwise, there would be no Mexico.
• 26:45
  Right. You do talk about that a good
• 26:47
  amount and just really how
• 26:50
  interconnected everything is because
• 26:52
  these cartels and these black markets, it all
• 26:55
  does go back quite far and it is
• 26:57
  all integrated. There's kind of a love triangle
• 26:59
  between the cartels, the Mexican government, and even
• 27:02
  the US government. You mentioned that if the
• 27:06
  drug
• 27:06
  business vanished, the US economy would shrink 19
• 27:10
  to 22%, and the Mexican economy would shrink
• 27:14
  63%,
• 27:15
  and
• 27:16
  those numbers are pretty staggering. I've even heard
• 27:20
  Catherine Austin Fitz talk about how in the
• 27:22
  US,
• 27:24
  all the way down to the street level,
• 27:26
  drug trafficking is oftentimes the only
• 27:29
  money flowing through poor inner city communities,
• 27:32
  and it ends up propping up mom and
• 27:34
  pop restaurants or barbershops or whatever local community
• 27:38
  there is because the only people who have
• 27:40
  the money to spend in the community is
• 27:42
  people selling drugs. Even the corporate chains would
• 27:45
  probably close a few locations if that drug
• 27:47
  money wasn't circulating through those neighborhoods.
• 27:51
  So it is just interesting to think about
• 27:53
  the domino effect of it all. We do
• 27:55
  have a president who's saying
• 27:57
  we should call the cartels a terrorist organization
• 28:00
  and use the full weight of the military.
• 28:04
  Now that could just
• 28:05
  be the idea
• 28:07
  that military contractors came up with trying to
• 28:09
  find a new
• 28:11
  conflict to spend the big budget on and
• 28:13
  to justify an even bigger budget. But, yeah,
• 28:16
  everything is really integrated, and
• 28:19
  it seems like both economies would suffer greatly
• 28:21
  if something was actually done about the drug
• 28:23
  trade.
• 28:25
  Greg, I read a fantastic
• 28:27
  book, and I ordered so many copies of
• 28:29
  it.
• 28:31
  I really want people to read this book.
• 28:33
  It's in my store, avatar products.com,
• 28:35
  and it's called Down by the River.
• 28:37
  It's by a very, very
• 28:40
  amazing writer. Every
• 28:43
  line he writes is fantastic
• 28:46
  to the ear. Alright.
• 28:48
  So his name is Charles Bowden, and this
• 28:50
  book is Down by the River. And everyone
• 28:52
  who lives in America and
• 28:55
  who lives in Mexico should really read this
• 28:57
  book. Down by the River, Charles Boden. So
• 29:00
  it was written in 2002,
• 29:03
  and it's about the West Texas border town
• 29:06
  of El Paso,
• 29:08
  which faces
• 29:09
  the city of Juarez
• 29:11
  in the state of Chihuahua,
• 29:13
  and the Rio Grande kind of flows between
• 29:15
  the two cities.
• 29:17
  And
• 29:18
  El Paso Juarez
• 29:20
  is an interface
• 29:22
  that is
• 29:24
  very interesting and really kind of replicates
• 29:28
  this relationship
• 29:29
  between America and Mexico.
• 29:32
  Somebody I know who lived in El Paso
• 29:34
  for many years told me it's not even
• 29:37
  America.
• 29:38
  It is a crazy place.
• 29:40
  And Juarez is even worse.
• 29:43
  Okay?
• 29:44
  It is so poor.
• 29:46
  And all these people in Mexico, these young,
• 29:49
  able people, they filter into the cities of
• 29:52
  Mexico looking for work, and there's no work.
• 29:55
  The Mexican
• 29:56
  economy
• 29:57
  has really been destroyed by a series of,
• 30:00
  we'll put in quotes, presidents.
• 30:03
  And I go through that in this particular
• 30:05
  newsletter,
• 30:06
  and Boden goes through that in the book.
• 30:09
  But he writes, and it was kind of
• 30:10
  shocking for me to read this and consider
• 30:13
  it, that
• 30:15
  the drug merchants
• 30:17
  in Mexico
• 30:18
  are really the most honest players
• 30:23
  in the land. And these people who come
• 30:25
  into the cities and look for work and
• 30:27
  they don't find work, well, there are drugs.
• 30:29
  There's drugs that you can run even though
• 30:31
  there's no work.
• 30:33
  So they take on
• 30:34
  whatever
• 30:36
  tasks they have within the cartels as farriers
• 30:39
  or god knows what. I don't know how
• 30:41
  it all works.
• 30:42
  But
• 30:43
  these
• 30:45
  drug merchants,
• 30:47
  vicious, greedy, murderous
• 30:49
  as they are,
• 30:51
  they employ people based on their talents. They're
• 30:54
  not concerned with sex, race, class, color, religion.
• 30:57
  And they are also, Boden writes, one of
• 30:59
  the few industries in the developing sectors of
• 31:01
  the earth that really do redistribute
• 31:04
  income. And this is what you just said.
• 31:07
  They do so at a level without parallel.
• 31:10
  Okay.
• 31:11
  Money is dispersed
• 31:13
  among people who really need it, but it
• 31:16
  is a drug industry that they're participating
• 31:18
  in. This is way more money than in
• 31:21
  these sweatshops
• 31:23
  where they have to stitch
• 31:25
  garments
• 31:25
  for people to buy from Target and Walmart
• 31:29
  on the other side of the border.
• 31:31
  So drugs as a major part of the
• 31:34
  economy of Mexico and America,
• 31:35
  put money directly in the hands of the
• 31:37
  poor who need it, and they can't get
• 31:40
  it in any other kind of job sector.
• 31:42
  Yeah. It's a little strange
• 31:44
  how it's kinda got a little bit of
• 31:46
  a Robin Hood effect, you could say.
• 31:49
  Yes.
• 31:50
  Exactly.
• 31:51
  So
• 31:53
  if you take away
• 31:55
  and Boden wrote this book in the early
• 31:57
  2000. Alright? So Juarez,
• 32:00
  I read in my newsletter,
• 32:02
  decorated by mudhuts and raw sewage,
• 32:05
  is looking
• 32:07
  across the river at a first world economy.
• 32:10
  And that's really how the world is. There's
• 32:12
  a separation
• 32:13
  between
• 32:14
  very poor brown skinned people
• 32:17
  who toil away
• 32:19
  and do whatever they can to be like
• 32:22
  the much richer white skinned people on the
• 32:25
  other side of the tracks.
• 32:27
  So
• 32:28
  I am actually continuing this discussion in my
• 32:31
  current newsletter, but you asked what's gonna happen.
• 32:34
  Are there well intentioned people who are coming
• 32:37
  into political office now, and are they gonna
• 32:39
  make a change in the country?
• 32:41
  Look.
• 32:42
  I don't know. I don't have a crystal
• 32:44
  ball.
• 32:46
  We hope,
• 32:47
  but
• 32:48
  we could get metaphysical about this.
• 32:51
  I don't know if we should. We should.
• 32:53
  Really? Okay.
• 32:55
  What do you mean by getting metaphysical about
• 32:57
  this?
• 32:58
  Alright. So
• 33:00
  how do I say this?
• 33:02
  I think we live in a dimension that
• 33:04
  is always going to booby trap us and
• 33:08
  oppress us. And it's really about
• 33:10
  how we meet
• 33:12
  these booby traps and how we meet these
• 33:14
  constant
• 33:15
  challenges.
• 33:16
  Now, you know,
• 33:17
  if you look at a sparrow, I always
• 33:19
  observe
• 33:20
  small creatures.
• 33:22
  I live on a canyon, and these creatures
• 33:24
  are constantly
• 33:26
  flittering about. They're frightened a lot of the
• 33:28
  time. They're always looking over their shoulders. You
• 33:31
  make the slightest move, and they will hop
• 33:33
  off or fly off or whatever. And that's
• 33:36
  kind of how we are in our lives,
• 33:38
  but we want to be propped up by
• 33:40
  the state. We expect
• 33:42
  that our economy and our integration
• 33:45
  into this system,
• 33:47
  when we turn the tap, the water should
• 33:49
  flow.
• 33:50
  When we flip the light switch, we should
• 33:52
  have light. I mean, what would it be
• 33:54
  like? I bought a book that is about
• 33:57
  the history of light and how people had
• 33:59
  to dip candles and how smelly they were
• 34:02
  and how laborious it was to make a
• 34:05
  candle out of beef tallow.
• 34:07
  And here we waltz into our room. We
• 34:09
  just hit the switch and there's power. And
• 34:11
  then we complain that the utility company is
• 34:14
  charging us so much for the bill. You
• 34:17
  know?
• 34:18
  But would we like to dip candles?
• 34:20
  Would we like to save our beef fat?
• 34:24
  We don't think in those terms anymore. We
• 34:27
  don't think how much time
• 34:29
  and how much labor and energy and planning
• 34:31
  it took
• 34:32
  to survive.
• 34:34
  You know? Right. Even travel too. Like, it'd
• 34:37
  be really hard for a person
• 34:39
  a few 100 years ago to grow up
• 34:41
  in Missouri, move to California, and then move
• 34:43
  to Florida, yet I took it for granted
• 34:45
  that it was quite easy to do.
• 34:48
  Yeah. Because you had
• 34:50
  U Haul, and
• 34:51
  you had a plan you could visit first.
• 34:54
  I mean, think how long it took.
• 34:57
  When I was a little girl in the
• 34:58
  5th grade, we had an assignment.
• 35:01
  It was a class assignment. We got to
• 35:03
  make a giant mural
• 35:05
  for the hallway of the school, and everybody
• 35:08
  had
• 35:09
  a piece of American history, I think it
• 35:11
  was,
• 35:13
  and a part of the mural to put
• 35:15
  a
• 35:16
  painting or drawing on.
• 35:18
  And my part of the mural was the
• 35:20
  far end, and I decided I don't know
• 35:22
  what the actual topic was that I was
• 35:25
  given, but my part was the picture of
• 35:28
  a covered wagon,
• 35:29
  and it said on it California
• 35:31
  or bus.
• 35:33
  And that's where I've ended up.
• 35:36
  Yeah.
• 35:36
  I mean, it is crazy when you think
• 35:39
  about all the modern conveniences
• 35:41
  we have and the complaints that we have
• 35:43
  as well. There's a Louis c k bid,
• 35:45
  I believe, or maybe it was Bill Burr
• 35:47
  where he talks about complaining about
• 35:50
  cell phones not working, and it's like, give
• 35:52
  it a second. It's going to space and
• 35:54
  back. You know, like, these things, I mean
• 35:56
  and who knows if that's even true? But
• 35:58
  the point still stands that there's a lot
• 36:00
  of complex technology
• 36:01
  that
• 36:02
  we complain about when it doesn't work 100%
• 36:05
  of the time, even though it might be
• 36:06
  killing us. But let's get back to the
• 36:08
  metaphysical thing and the idea of what is
• 36:11
  this realm. People use the term prison planet.
• 36:14
  People
• 36:15
  say we live in a hell dimension. It's
• 36:17
  just kind of
• 36:19
  masked a little bit. If anyone saw that
• 36:21
  show, The Good Place, spoiler alert,
• 36:23
  that is sort of what it is,
• 36:25
  is that you don't know you're in hell
• 36:28
  because
• 36:29
  the things are only slightly inconveniencing,
• 36:32
  but all the time, and it stacks up,
• 36:34
  and you're like, man, what is happening here?
• 36:37
  And I guess that's kinda what you're getting
• 36:39
  at is that this realm, this planet,
• 36:43
  it seems designed
• 36:44
  to
• 36:46
  keep us down to
• 36:48
  have this predator prey relationship, maybe. Some people
• 36:51
  say it's a human energy farm
• 36:53
  for transdimensional
• 36:55
  intelligences.
• 36:57
  I don't know, but that's what you mean
• 36:58
  by metaphysical. Right? It's probably not that the
• 37:00
  new administration is gonna save the day because
• 37:03
  no one saves the day here.
• 37:05
  No one saves the day. Listen.
• 37:07
  We can improve our own course
• 37:09
  through the day,
• 37:11
  But I'm going to segue, and you're not
• 37:13
  prepared. So you're gonna have to fly by
• 37:15
  the seat of your pants.
• 37:17
  I'm ready. So I wrote a newsletter in
• 37:20
  February 2022.
• 37:22
  I don't know what it was called, but
• 37:23
  it was
• 37:24
  about a book called Proof of Heaven
• 37:28
  by Eben Alexander. Have you ever heard of
• 37:30
  this guy?
• 37:31
  The name of the book sounds familiar.
• 37:34
  Alright. So
• 37:35
  my YouTube feed
• 37:37
  led me to a talk that was given
• 37:39
  in a church in Minnesota.
• 37:42
  It was by doctor Evan Alexander,
• 37:45
  who was a
• 37:46
  nonbeliever.
• 37:47
  He was a Harvard
• 37:49
  trained
• 37:51
  neurosurgeon,
• 37:52
  and he worked at some, you know, swanky
• 37:55
  hospital in Virginia. And he woke up one
• 37:57
  morning, and he didn't feel well. And this
• 37:59
  is very unusual for him. So he told
• 38:01
  his wife he wanted to stay in bed
• 38:02
  a little longer, and his condition got worse
• 38:05
  within
• 38:06
  the hour, and he ended up having to
• 38:08
  be taken to the ER.
• 38:10
  And
• 38:12
  he says in his book that
• 38:14
  he
• 38:15
  apparently had this horrible bacterial meningitis.
• 38:19
  He said, I slipped into grand mal seizures
• 38:22
  and was rushed off to the emergency room
• 38:23
  where a very astute physician realized I might
• 38:26
  have meningitis, did a lumbar puncture. And when
• 38:29
  the fluid surrounding brain and spinal cord came
• 38:31
  out of my back, it was thick white
• 38:33
  pus under pressure.
• 38:36
  The doctor later told me that when she
• 38:38
  saw that, she knew I was dead.
• 38:40
  I was put on 3 very powerful antibiotics,
• 38:43
  and by the end of the week, they
• 38:44
  had tripled
• 38:46
  beyond the maximum dose, one of those antibiotics
• 38:48
  trying to turn me around. I was down
• 38:50
  to a 2%
• 38:51
  chance of survival.
• 38:53
  Alright. So
• 38:55
  even Alexander was in a coma for a
• 38:57
  week,
• 38:58
  and he was surrounded by all his friends
• 39:00
  because he was in a hospital that he
• 39:02
  worked at.
• 39:04
  And
• 39:05
  it turns out that during this week,
• 39:08
  he went on this incredible journey,
• 39:10
  and he went to all these realms. I'm
• 39:13
  getting terrible chills while I'm saying this.
• 39:15
  So what what do chills mean, Greg?
• 39:18
  People everywhere tell me if you get chills
• 39:20
  like that, it means it's true.
• 39:23
  Right?
• 39:24
  Sure.
• 39:25
  Okay.
• 39:26
  So
• 39:27
  he says
• 39:29
  that
• 39:30
  he lay unconscious. Right? And he I write
• 39:33
  in my newsletter, doctor Alexander had been a
• 39:36
  hard science type all his life with no
• 39:38
  belief in heaven or God and very little
• 39:41
  understanding of what is consciousness
• 39:44
  as neurosurgeons
• 39:45
  operate only on the gelatinous
• 39:48
  brain itself.
• 39:50
  Neurosurgeons
• 39:50
  don't know much about consciousness.
• 39:53
  So, anyway,
• 39:54
  all I knew, he says, when I came
• 39:56
  back to this world
• 39:57
  7 days later, was this brilliant, incredible, ultra
• 40:01
  real spiritual journey I had been on deep
• 40:04
  in coma.
• 40:06
  Now the me before would have told you
• 40:09
  that such an illness, given that kind of
• 40:11
  severe bacterial meningitis, is the perfect model for
• 40:14
  human death. In fact, it's so perfect that
• 40:17
  nobody practically ever comes back to tell the
• 40:20
  tale. Given the destruction of my brain that
• 40:22
  was apparent to my doctors through my neurologic
• 40:25
  exams and scans and lab values, I should
• 40:28
  have had no experience at all while comatose.
• 40:31
  But he had an amazing journey, Greg.
• 40:34
  And he talks about how
• 40:36
  we really are
• 40:38
  connected
• 40:39
  into all these other realm. So I'm gonna
• 40:41
  say something that I thought of last night.
• 40:44
  I've never thought of this before.
• 40:46
  And it was in the middle of the
• 40:47
  night and I'm going, my god, I need
• 40:49
  to write this down. I'm never gonna remember
• 40:51
  this, But you, Greg, in this interview have
• 40:53
  churned it up again.
• 40:55
  So we have the 3 dimensions
• 40:58
  of our
• 40:59
  world.
• 41:01
  Dimension 2 is
• 41:03
  a flat surface, and dimension 3 is if
• 41:06
  you do geometry x, y, and the z
• 41:09
  axis. So the first dimension would be just
• 41:11
  a dot. 2nd dimension would be
• 41:14
  width and length, and the third dimension would
• 41:16
  be depth. But the minute you add movement,
• 41:19
  you're in another dimension.
• 41:21
  And movement that comes from life
• 41:24
  is yet another dimension. Right?
• 41:28
  And then there's intention.
• 41:31
  There's
• 41:33
  realms of possibility.
• 41:35
  Will this
• 41:36
  entity in this
• 41:38
  space,
• 41:39
  will it go here? Will it go there?
• 41:41
  Will it do this? Will it do that?
• 41:43
  Is it doing it intentionally? Is it doing
• 41:45
  it because it's been influenced by other
• 41:47
  forces and factors? So now we're entering into
• 41:50
  what's called multidimensionality,
• 41:54
  realms of possibility.
• 41:56
  And realms of possibility
• 41:59
  unfold
• 42:00
  our lives. I don't know if that's grammatical,
• 42:03
  but you know what I'm saying?
• 42:05
  You could have never left California. You could
• 42:07
  have never left Missouri. You could have gone
• 42:09
  to Georgia instead of Florida. And there are
• 42:11
  all these possibilities,
• 42:12
  but your intention
• 42:14
  took you.
• 42:15
  You were a factor in your own movement.
• 42:18
  So
• 42:20
  Alexander says that
• 42:22
  the brain is
• 42:24
  a collapsing
• 42:25
  device.
• 42:27
  The place he went was I mean, he
• 42:30
  rode on a butterfly wing with a beautiful
• 42:33
  girl.
• 42:34
  You can't come back as a neurosurgeon
• 42:36
  and start babbling about this.
• 42:39
  And his pals at the hospital told him,
• 42:42
  this is a trick of the brain. You
• 42:43
  were never in any beautiful realm. There weren't
• 42:46
  angels singing. I mean, all this music and
• 42:49
  stuff. So this was he had an afterlife
• 42:52
  experience,
• 42:53
  and it was so powerful that it caused
• 42:56
  him to stop his neurosurgery
• 42:58
  altogether,
• 43:00
  trying to explain
• 43:01
  and explore
• 43:02
  this thing called consciousness.
• 43:06
  So if you read the book, and I
• 43:07
  think it's also very worth reading,
• 43:10
  they're diametrically
• 43:11
  opposed down by the river, Charles Boden,
• 43:14
  about the cartels
• 43:16
  and then this. Right?
• 43:17
  And
• 43:19
  he connected with what he calls
• 43:22
  the great Aum,
• 43:23
  a u m.
• 43:25
  And he calls it Aum because he doesn't
• 43:26
  wanna call it god because that's too conventional
• 43:29
  a word.
• 43:30
  So
• 43:31
  Aum is
• 43:33
  writes
• 43:35
  I'm referring to what some might call God.
• 43:38
  Others might call Allah, Brahmin, Vishnu, Jehovah, Yahweh.
• 43:42
  I don't care what the words are. The
• 43:44
  words get in the way. They make it
• 43:45
  look like it's an intellectual discussion.
• 43:48
  High school, college debate. It's not. That world
• 43:50
  is absolutely
• 43:52
  real.
• 43:54
  And he says that
• 43:56
  now I'm gonna say this because I think
• 43:58
  it's very interesting.
• 43:59
  Right before he got into that world, Greg
• 44:02
  so the first place he went in his
• 44:04
  coma
• 44:05
  was this horrible,
• 44:07
  horrible,
• 44:08
  dark space,
• 44:10
  and he said he was caught in it.
• 44:12
  And
• 44:13
  he was terrified by it. He said it
• 44:15
  was a claustrophobic
• 44:17
  muddy underworld that echoed with, and I'm gonna
• 44:19
  quote him, a deep rhythmic pounding like the
• 44:22
  sound of metal against metal as if a
• 44:25
  giant subterranean
• 44:26
  blacksmith was pounding an anvil somewhere,
• 44:29
  pounding it so hard that the sound vibrates
• 44:32
  through the earth or the mud that he
• 44:34
  was in or wherever it is that you
• 44:36
  are. I didn't have a body. I was
• 44:37
  simply there in this place of pulsing, pounding
• 44:41
  darkness.
• 44:43
  The longer I stayed in this place, the
• 44:45
  less comfortable I became feeling like I wasn't
• 44:47
  really part of this subterranean world at all,
• 44:50
  but trapped in it.
• 44:52
  Grotesque animal faces bubbled out of the muck,
• 44:56
  groaned and screeched, and then were gone again.
• 44:59
  I heard an occasional dull roar. Sometimes those
• 45:02
  roars change to dim rhythmic chants,
• 45:05
  chants that were both terrifying and weirdly familiar
• 45:09
  as if at some point I'd known and
• 45:11
  uttered them myself.
• 45:14
  The more the faces that bubbled up out
• 45:16
  of that darkness became ugly and threatening, the
• 45:19
  rhythmic pounding off in the distance sharpened and
• 45:22
  intensified as well became the work beat for
• 45:25
  some army of troll like underground laborers performing
• 45:29
  some endless brutally monotonous tasks. The movement around
• 45:33
  me was as if reptilian
• 45:35
  worm like creatures were crowding past, occasionally rubbing
• 45:38
  up against me with their smooth or spiky
• 45:41
  skims.
• 45:44
  So what would you call this?
• 45:47
  Hell?
• 45:48
  Right?
• 45:49
  I mean, he's in it. He's trapped. It's
• 45:50
  dark. He hears droning,
• 45:53
  moaning,
• 45:54
  like other people being trapped. He hears pounding,
• 45:57
  and then these reptilian things are swishing past
• 46:00
  him, touching him.
• 46:02
  So
• 46:03
  he said it had this
• 46:05
  dank
• 46:07
  smell of biological
• 46:09
  death.
• 46:11
  Garros. Right? And he stuck there.
• 46:14
  And then the darkness began to break as
• 46:17
  a pure white light descended, obliterating the pounding,
• 46:20
  spinning around and around and generating filaments,
• 46:23
  tinged with gold.
• 46:25
  And so
• 46:27
  it pulled him out of there. And then
• 46:29
  he found Greg this. What's very interesting
• 46:33
  that he could
• 46:34
  leave through this channel of light, and he
• 46:37
  could come back.
• 46:39
  And he could leave, and he could come
• 46:41
  back.
• 46:42
  And he was in control.
• 46:45
  So what
• 46:46
  am I gonna say something? Well, yeah, it's
• 46:49
  a really interesting story. I'm trying to stay
• 46:51
  quiet when you're talking because you're not wearing
• 46:53
  a headset, and I do hear myself coming
• 46:55
  through sometimes, and I don't wanna talk over
• 46:57
  you.
• 46:58
  But yeah. Obviously, it's a fascinating story. I'm
• 47:01
  the first one to love a story like
• 47:03
  that.
• 47:04
  How literal do you take that, or what
• 47:06
  insights do you extract from that?
• 47:09
  So I call this the iconic underworld,
• 47:13
  and
• 47:15
  I think it's a bordering dimension
• 47:17
  to
• 47:18
  what we're in right now,
• 47:20
  and I think the bad guys
• 47:22
  pull from it.
• 47:24
  I think they're CERN,
• 47:26
  Hadron Collider.
• 47:28
  When they look for God, they're going into
• 47:30
  this area, this place, and they're pulling energy
• 47:33
  from it. And they've mixed this energy in
• 47:36
  with our world and our cultures
• 47:38
  and our thinking.
• 47:41
  And they're succeeding
• 47:42
  because we don't realize
• 47:44
  that
• 47:46
  we are beyond all this, and we can
• 47:49
  do what Alexander did. We can go up
• 47:51
  that filigree
• 47:53
  light channel
• 47:54
  and
• 47:56
  interact with that higher realm as much as
• 47:59
  we want.
• 48:00
  But we can't, he says, because
• 48:03
  our brain
• 48:05
  is controlling us.
• 48:08
  I've taken a talk
• 48:10
  that he did
• 48:11
  at the annual conference of the International Association
• 48:14
  of NDEs,
• 48:16
  Near Death Experiences.
• 48:18
  He says
• 48:19
  that this world is a murky
• 48:22
  little shadow world,
• 48:24
  that world
• 48:26
  through the light.
• 48:28
  And I haven't described much of what he
• 48:30
  encountered there, but it was beautiful music in
• 48:33
  all different realms, and the great aunt was
• 48:35
  there, and there's butterflies and whatnot, you know,
• 48:38
  beautiful things. And this is
• 48:41
  universal
• 48:42
  throughout different cultures.
• 48:45
  People who have NDEs,
• 48:46
  they see this stuff.
• 48:48
  They experience this stuff.
• 48:50
  Right. I've heard a lot of those stories,
• 48:52
  and something else I think is interesting that
• 48:54
  I wanna slide in here just to connect
• 48:56
  it back to modern
• 48:58
  conveniences a little bit,
• 49:00
  it's interesting
• 49:01
  how many modern conveniences
• 49:04
  have a kind of a
• 49:06
  darkness to them.
• 49:08
  You could even say the water pipes we
• 49:10
  take for granted. Well, it's also a fluoride
• 49:13
  distribution network, and it's a distribution network to
• 49:16
  give toxic water to people.
• 49:18
  You could talk about the power grid. Sure.
• 49:20
  We have lights. Great. Well, if you've read
• 49:23
  the invisible rainbow,
• 49:24
  the whole electrification of the Earth might be
• 49:27
  responsible for a lot of sickness, including the
• 49:29
  flu season, oddly enough.
• 49:32
  And then you have all these people who
• 49:35
  are inventors
• 49:37
  or have come up with some kind of
• 49:39
  technology,
• 49:40
  and
• 49:41
  even though it's something that is a convenience
• 49:44
  to people, it always has a dark edge.
• 49:46
  Even the WiFi, you know, the WiFi router.
• 49:48
  People are like, oh, I'm so glad I
• 49:50
  can connect
• 49:51
  without the wires. And then it's like, yeah.
• 49:53
  Now your circadian rhythm is messed up. Your
• 49:56
  mitochondrial
• 49:56
  DNA is damaged.
• 49:58
  To bring up another neurosurgeon,
• 50:00
  Jack Crews, I saw you posted a presentation
• 50:03
  that he did, and he talks about how
• 50:05
  blue light makes us fat. It's causing the
• 50:08
  dysregulation of our bodies and damaging the mitochondria.
• 50:10
  He's always big on that. Super interesting guy.
• 50:13
  And
• 50:14
  he has talked about all the patents on
• 50:17
  the digital screens, the ones we're using right
• 50:19
  now, that
• 50:20
  they were engineered
• 50:22
  for maximum
• 50:23
  damage and mind control because of the mental
• 50:26
  states
• 50:27
  that the blue light from these screens puts
• 50:29
  us in. He's talked about how they could've
• 50:31
  built them several different ways, but they used
• 50:34
  the insights from MK Ultra and other things
• 50:37
  to
• 50:38
  make them as damaging as possible without anyone
• 50:41
  really noticing.
• 50:43
  And he was in deep talks with RFK
• 50:45
  Junior and Nicole Shanahan. I mean, she was
• 50:47
  chosen as the running mate because she was
• 50:49
  hip to this from her marriage with Google
• 50:51
  cofounder
• 50:52
  Sergey Brin.
• 50:54
  And it gets scary.
• 50:55
  It seems like all this technology
• 50:57
  is intentionally
• 50:59
  weaponized. And just while we're still in this
• 51:01
  first hour here, I wanted to slide in
• 51:03
  a quote from a totally
• 51:05
  unrelated thing you wrote about friendships
• 51:07
  versus bot ships where we're seeing more and
• 51:11
  more people in this lonely reality
• 51:13
  go to AI and bots for companionship.
• 51:18
  And you said this, Geoffrey Hinton and George
• 51:21
  Bole
• 51:22
  and a few human genius types in between
• 51:24
  can be credited with the creation of AI,
• 51:26
  which has not yet reached its apotheosis.
• 51:30
  Hinton, a British computer scientist,
• 51:33
  is the great grandson of Bohl
• 51:36
  who was a self taught logician and mathematician
• 51:39
  born in the early 1800.
• 51:41
  Bohl had a mystical experience at the age
• 51:43
  of 17
• 51:45
  that spurred him to figure out for mankind
• 51:47
  the mathematics of human reasoning and thought. He
• 51:50
  almost got there giving us an investigation
• 51:53
  of the laws of thought and his own
• 51:54
  system of symbiotic
• 51:56
  logic based on a yes no on off
• 51:58
  methodology.
• 51:59
  90 years later, Claude Shannon, a graduate student
• 52:02
  at MIT, applied his two value approach to
• 52:04
  electronics and the information age was born.
• 52:08
  So
• 52:09
  I've done other interviews about aspects of technology,
• 52:12
  the transistor.
• 52:13
  It always seems to come with this trickster
• 52:16
  aspect to it, or iconic aspect to it,
• 52:19
  or demonic aspect to it, where it's like
• 52:21
  here's
• 52:22
  a gift,
• 52:23
  but a gift with a twist that will
• 52:26
  slowly kill you. And
• 52:28
  it's just weird that even in this context,
• 52:30
  I read that because you're talking about the
• 52:32
  information age and some of its foundations, and
• 52:34
  this guy had a mystical experience at 17.
• 52:37
  I'd like to know more about that. Did
• 52:39
  he tap into this iconic underworld and get
• 52:42
  some insight that ended up putting us on
• 52:44
  this dark path? Hard to say, but do
• 52:47
  you know much more about his mystical experience?
• 52:49
  I looked to see
• 52:51
  if I could find anything about it, and
• 52:53
  it's referred to, but I searched for quite
• 52:55
  a while. I didn't find any details. I
• 52:58
  mean, he was very young,
• 52:59
  so maybe people didn't believe him. Maybe he
• 53:02
  never wrote it down. Who knows? But it
• 53:04
  triggered. Right? So this is what
• 53:07
  Alexander tells us. He says that
• 53:11
  consciousness is not created by the brain. So
• 53:14
  I'm going back to the dimensions. We are
• 53:16
  multidimensional.
• 53:17
  We have intention, will. We have this thing
• 53:19
  called consciousness, which apparently can travel us into
• 53:22
  these realms with angels and harps and whatnot,
• 53:25
  and we can meet the great awe if
• 53:27
  we want to. Right?
• 53:29
  So he says that
• 53:31
  if you believe the brain is creating consciousness,
• 53:33
  the only thing that would be going on
• 53:35
  is chemical reactions, physics, chemistry, biology, all those
• 53:39
  laws being followed by the molecules in your
• 53:41
  brain
• 53:42
  and all simply chemical reactions.
• 53:44
  Free will and consciousness would be considered illusions
• 53:48
  of those chemical reactions.
• 53:49
  But my journey showed me the exact opposite
• 53:52
  is the case.
• 53:53
  So he says, Greg, that we are conscious
• 53:56
  in spite of our brain. Our brain is
• 53:58
  there to act as a reducing valve or
• 54:01
  filter.
• 54:01
  Because if we had all of consciousness at
• 54:04
  our fingertips all the time, we would be
• 54:06
  overwhelmed,
• 54:07
  and we would never get anything done. We
• 54:10
  would never make our beds
• 54:11
  and brush our teeth and do this linear
• 54:14
  stuff. And, I mean, I think these guys
• 54:17
  pull technology,
• 54:19
  but they are
• 54:20
  pairing
• 54:21
  themselves with this iconic underworld. A lot of
• 54:24
  these people who invent these things. I mean,
• 54:25
  there are purists who are inventors. Like, we
• 54:28
  could take Tesla as an example.
• 54:30
  And then the fiends descend on the purists
• 54:33
  and take their work and channel it into
• 54:35
  their own
• 54:37
  markets
• 54:38
  with their own programs and agendas.
• 54:42
  So
• 54:44
  if you had consciousness
• 54:46
  at your disposal,
• 54:48
  I wrote, you would never be fascinated by
• 54:51
  the polychrome
• 54:52
  sewage of your cell phone.
• 54:56
  So he says, Alexander,
• 54:58
  during the brain based physical portion of our
• 55:00
  existence, and that's what you're talking about. All
• 55:03
  this technology is brain based.
• 55:06
  It's linear.
• 55:07
  It's very complex. It's so complex that for
• 55:10
  people like us who aren't schooled in it,
• 55:12
  it seems abstract. It seems spatial. We cannot
• 55:15
  hold all these details in our brains.
• 55:18
  And I was talking to a physicist engineer
• 55:20
  yesterday, and he was explaining something about capacitors
• 55:23
  to me. I could barely understand it, and
• 55:26
  yet it's very, very linear for him.
• 55:28
  So our brain blocks out or veils that
• 55:31
  larger cosmic background
• 55:33
  just as the sun's light blocks the stars.
• 55:36
  We can only see what our brain's filter
• 55:39
  allows.
• 55:40
  Okay? The brain,
• 55:42
  particularly its left side linguistic logical part that
• 55:45
  which generates our sense of rationality
• 55:48
  and the feeling of being a sharply defined
• 55:50
  ego or self is a barrier to our
• 55:53
  higher knowledge or experience.
• 55:56
  So how much of our waking life do
• 55:59
  you consider to be somewhat
• 56:02
  manufactured or
• 56:04
  limited down by our brain? You started talking
• 56:08
  kind of about the wide range of dimensions
• 56:10
  and possibility and that the brain reduces and
• 56:13
  collapses us down to the one reality, the
• 56:16
  shared reality
• 56:17
  that we're in. But how intertwined is the
• 56:19
  iconic
• 56:20
  underworld
• 56:22
  and these potentially even positive realms that we
• 56:25
  just don't even know are there?
• 56:27
  Alright. So this is what I wrote in
• 56:29
  my newsletter. This was my February 2022
• 56:31
  newsletter.
• 56:33
  Okay. So I finally started to get it.
• 56:35
  If my brain is a collapser,
• 56:37
  a filter, something that shrinks down the eternal
• 56:41
  vastness and light and brilliance of the core
• 56:43
  of all
• 56:45
  so that I can retain my senses and
• 56:47
  function here. See, it's all about functionality.
• 56:50
  You wouldn't function.
• 56:52
  You would be tripping out all the time.
• 56:55
  So
• 56:56
  the brain allows you to function here.
• 57:00
  Then I wrote, how it does this rendering
• 57:03
  must be something that my own particular
• 57:05
  logic
• 57:06
  slash ego slash self has a role in
• 57:09
  designing.
• 57:10
  I should spend less time rationalizing
• 57:13
  down
• 57:15
  into functionality and more time stretching up towards
• 57:18
  the divine.
• 57:19
  Doctor Alexander
• 57:21
  points out that we should not have to
• 57:23
  rely on a catastrophic health event to bring
• 57:26
  us to the edge of death to gain
• 57:27
  this understanding.
• 57:29
  So I wrote, why not just fortify
• 57:31
  your divinity?
• 57:33
  And that is up to you how you
• 57:34
  choose to do that.
• 57:36
  These dark
• 57:38
  individuals
• 57:39
  are not fortifying their divinity.
• 57:41
  The Apples and the Googles
• 57:44
  are not fortifying their divinity. They're pulling our
• 57:46
  conic stuff,
• 57:48
  and they're introducing it to you.
• 57:50
  And they're enthralling you and entrancing you with
• 57:53
  it.
• 57:54
  So
• 57:55
  that's where I am. That that phrase, fortify
• 57:58
  your divinity,
• 57:59
  that is up to you. I like it.
• 58:02
  And do you think this is a conscious
• 58:04
  relationship
• 58:05
  between
• 58:06
  the inventors of Silicon Valley, the makers of
• 58:09
  all this technology,
• 58:11
  and the something else, the iconic underworld.
• 58:15
  Well, they definitely
• 58:17
  like to play with it. I mean, if
• 58:19
  you've ever read about
• 58:21
  Jack Parsons,
• 58:22
  is that his name, and the stuff that
• 58:24
  was going on
• 58:26
  in his labs and how attuned they tried
• 58:28
  to be to that iconic place. Even Alexander
• 58:31
  doesn't call it the iconic underworld. That's my
• 58:34
  word for it after reading about it. I'm
• 58:36
  going, my gosh, this slime,
• 58:38
  This is where they're pulling energy from and
• 58:41
  add mixing it with our world,
• 58:44
  and we're falling
• 58:45
  prey to it. We're sitting ducks because we're
• 58:48
  not fortifying our divinity enough,
• 58:51
  dude.
• 58:53
  Right on, sister.
• 58:56
  So what should we do?
• 58:58
  That is the question.
• 59:00
  The people who are really concerned
• 59:02
  about CERN
• 59:05
  think that they could be doing something there
• 59:07
  that would break reality, and it would cause
• 59:09
  these
• 59:11
  two places to be so intertwined that you
• 59:14
  couldn't separate them out again. The people who
• 59:16
  are worried about the COVID shots, for example,
• 59:19
  would say that
• 59:21
  the gene pool and the DNA of humanity
• 59:24
  has been completely
• 59:25
  altered and it won't go back.
• 59:29
  So some of these people are working on
• 59:31
  things that have serious consequences
• 59:34
  that can't really be
• 59:35
  unraveled, and I do think that's a huge
• 59:38
  concern.
• 59:39
  Greg,
• 59:40
  I almost dare not mention this because
• 59:45
  I started to carry sulfur in my store,
• 59:47
  MSM, methylsulfonylmethane
• 59:50
  sulfur.
• 59:51
  Methylsulfonylmethane
• 59:53
  is known as MSM sulfur, sometimes called organic
• 59:56
  sulfur, and it only is called organic because
• 59:58
  it contains a carbon atom,
• 1:00:01
  2 in fat.
• 1:00:03
  So here's the thing.
• 1:00:05
  Our soil is messed up.
• 1:00:08
  The iconic underworld
• 1:00:09
  relationship
• 1:00:10
  that you know, the American government
• 1:00:12
  paid growers in the 19 fifties
• 1:00:15
  to start using chemical pesticides and fertilizers.
• 1:00:18
  Why? Because those were post war industries that
• 1:00:22
  didn't have any place to go
• 1:00:24
  or goods to sell.
• 1:00:25
  So our soil has become so deeply eroded
• 1:00:30
  and wrecked by the presence of all these
• 1:00:32
  chemical
• 1:00:34
  that we don't get the elements that we
• 1:00:36
  need. Those elements being iodine, magnesium,
• 1:00:39
  sulfur,
• 1:00:40
  very basic stuff. You can look at these
• 1:00:42
  elements in the periodic table.
• 1:00:44
  But the sulfur cycle of the Earth has
• 1:00:46
  been interrupted, and I write this in a
• 1:00:49
  flyer that goes out with every order of
• 1:00:51
  sulfur.
• 1:00:52
  But one of the things that
• 1:00:53
  sulfur does is it's a chelating agent. So
• 1:00:56
  I have strung a few dots together. This
• 1:00:59
  is my own theory
• 1:01:00
  that
• 1:01:01
  these vaxxes have a lot of
• 1:01:03
  heavy metals in them.
• 1:01:05
  And the metals, according to Anna Meholtia,
• 1:01:08
  who's done a lot of research on this,
• 1:01:10
  the metals
• 1:01:11
  provide the conductive
• 1:01:13
  medium
• 1:01:15
  that is necessary because it facilitates
• 1:01:19
  bioelectricity,
• 1:01:21
  piezo electricity
• 1:01:23
  within the body,
• 1:01:25
  and these
• 1:01:26
  undisclosed ingredients that are nanotechnological
• 1:01:29
  in nature that are said to be replicating
• 1:01:32
  and making more of themselves and creating systems
• 1:01:35
  and devices within us.
• 1:01:38
  Those things cannot
• 1:01:39
  manufacture
• 1:01:42
  themselves without conductivity in the bloodstream, which is
• 1:01:45
  provided by the metals.
• 1:01:46
  So sulfur chelates or removes the metal. So
• 1:01:50
  the more you remove the metallic content
• 1:01:53
  of your bloodstream, the less of a chance
• 1:01:55
  you give this stuff to generate.
• 1:01:59
  So that's one reason why I think it's
• 1:02:01
  so important
• 1:02:02
  to be using sulfur on a daily basis
• 1:02:04
  because it is no longer in the soil.
• 1:02:07
  And the plants aren't getting it. They're not
• 1:02:10
  able to store it. It was plants that
• 1:02:12
  gave us sulfur because they store it and
• 1:02:14
  gave the animals. It's very important for mammalian
• 1:02:18
  metabolism.
• 1:02:20
  So you say there's no recourse, but there
• 1:02:23
  are these recourses. These are things that you
• 1:02:25
  have to really dig to find, and then
• 1:02:27
  you have to try them, and you have
• 1:02:29
  to see how well they work. But we
• 1:02:31
  are experimental
• 1:02:33
  victims
• 1:02:34
  in this very oppressive realm. That doesn't mean
• 1:02:36
  that we're going to all die and have
• 1:02:38
  a terrible time.
• 1:02:40
  But I can't see ways to completely turn
• 1:02:44
  this around and make it a paradise,
• 1:02:46
  which is what a lot of people talk
• 1:02:48
  about. Oh, this could be a paradise. I
• 1:02:50
  don't think it was ever a paradise.
• 1:02:52
  I see what you're saying. Yeah. It seems
• 1:02:54
  like
• 1:02:55
  just look at any era,
• 1:02:57
  and it seems as if there is a
• 1:03:00
  1% of some kind that is enslaving
• 1:03:04
  all the people
• 1:03:05
  in a given space,
• 1:03:07
  and that goes back
• 1:03:09
  to the beginning of history as far as
• 1:03:11
  we know. And it might even go back
• 1:03:13
  to the origins of people because so many
• 1:03:15
  talk about
• 1:03:17
  gold and us being
• 1:03:19
  invented or strongly engineered and encouraged to mine
• 1:03:23
  gold, and that's why we're obsessed with gold
• 1:03:25
  and the conquistadors
• 1:03:26
  were obsessed with gold and all this kind
• 1:03:28
  of stuff. I mean, who really knows?
• 1:03:31
  But, definitely,
• 1:03:32
  the system is built on
• 1:03:34
  the exploitation
• 1:03:35
  of
• 1:03:36
  many by a few.
• 1:03:39
  Yeah. And we
• 1:03:41
  we walk right into that. We are herd
• 1:03:44
  animals, and I don't think we know the
• 1:03:46
  difference between
• 1:03:48
  following and being exploited.
• 1:03:51
  I mean, when a leader shows up and
• 1:03:53
  says, I will lead you.
• 1:03:55
  I'm just speaking very loosely. People go, yes,
• 1:03:58
  lovely.
• 1:03:59
  Do that.
• 1:04:00
  We'll follow you. But then
• 1:04:02
  that turns into exploitation
• 1:04:04
  and it's just so natural
• 1:04:06
  for human beings to follow a leader that
• 1:04:09
  they don't seem to be able to do
• 1:04:11
  much with the exploitation.
• 1:04:14
  I agree with that as well. It almost
• 1:04:16
  seems like we've been engineered that way or
• 1:04:19
  it's a part of the superstructure
• 1:04:21
  that is this dimension.
• 1:04:23
  People say it's a human energy farm, that
• 1:04:26
  the reason why there's so much cultivated negative
• 1:04:28
  energy is because there's something else feeding on
• 1:04:31
  that.
• 1:04:33
  Right. That's that relationship with the arkonic underworld.
• 1:04:37
  So
• 1:04:39
  as we're kinda circling around the 2 hour
• 1:04:41
  mark, I wanted to make sure we do
• 1:04:44
  save time to
• 1:04:46
  re mention your products in the avatar store
• 1:04:49
  because this is the part where everybody, 1st
• 1:04:51
  and second hour people, would hear it. Tell
• 1:04:54
  them about some of the new additions, the
• 1:04:57
  keyboard grounding pad, the RF modem router guard,
• 1:05:01
  sulfur, iodine, magnesium,
• 1:05:03
  ion.
• 1:05:05
  Okay. So listen.
• 1:05:07
  I've tried nicely, and I've tried in a
• 1:05:09
  harsh
• 1:05:10
  punitive way to tell people to go on
• 1:05:13
  Ethernet. Why are your computers stop sleeping with
• 1:05:16
  that router pinging all night in the next
• 1:05:19
  room?
• 1:05:20
  And people don't do it. So
• 1:05:23
  there's a router guard.
• 1:05:25
  It's a low tech, no brainer. It's silver
• 1:05:28
  mesh. It's a bag. You drop it over
• 1:05:30
  your router. It has a drawstring.
• 1:05:32
  It will cut the signal.
• 1:05:34
  I've come across one person
• 1:05:36
  with a router whose signal that just doesn't
• 1:05:38
  cut. I don't know what to do about
• 1:05:40
  that guy's router. I don't I told him,
• 1:05:42
  just get another one. Get another router. And
• 1:05:44
  it cuts the signal, but the Wi Fi
• 1:05:47
  still works. It's just weakened.
• 1:05:49
  Absolutely. The radiation is lowered by 30 to
• 1:05:52
  80%.
• 1:05:53
  The Wi Fi still works. And if you
• 1:05:55
  wanna
• 1:05:56
  increase the Wi Fi signal, let's just say
• 1:05:58
  you pull the bag tight, it's a drawstring.
• 1:06:01
  I mean, how low tech can you get?
• 1:06:03
  You open the drawstring
• 1:06:04
  a little bit and boom, you get more
• 1:06:06
  signal. So at night, you could tighten the
• 1:06:08
  string
• 1:06:10
  and you don't get irradiated as much. So
• 1:06:12
  anyway, that's a good thing. Then there's sulfur.
• 1:06:15
  I've sold a lot of sulfur
• 1:06:18
  in the last couple of months, and I
• 1:06:20
  dread another avalanche of sulfur orders, but I'm
• 1:06:23
  happy to send it around. It's just tremendous.
• 1:06:26
  Someday we should do a show on sulfur
• 1:06:28
  if I cross your path again.
• 1:06:31
  Of course, you would.
• 1:06:32
  Hopefully, I will. Then there's Wiley's
• 1:06:34
  wash soap,
• 1:06:36
  laundry powder, and you can scrub your counters
• 1:06:38
  with it.
• 1:06:39
  The soap bars,
• 1:06:41
  they're on the sun and skin page. My
• 1:06:43
  friend makes them. He's a tremendous soap maker.
• 1:06:46
  He left a 6 figure corporate job to
• 1:06:49
  make soap.
• 1:06:50
  He's tremendous.
• 1:06:52
  Very, very amazing soap bars.
• 1:06:54
  They last longer than other soaps. Men can
• 1:06:57
  wash their hair, shave with this. He has,
• 1:06:59
  like,
• 1:07:00
  all different kinds of soaps, and I have
• 1:07:02
  the grab bag.
• 1:07:04
  I buy different kinds from him, and for
• 1:07:06
  a little bit less, I will pick the
• 1:07:08
  cars for you. Most people love everything.
• 1:07:11
  He even has, you know,
• 1:07:13
  pine tar, gum turpentine.
• 1:07:16
  These come from the resin of pine trees.
• 1:07:18
  People think turpentine is an industrial solvent, but
• 1:07:21
  it's not. It's from the pine tree.
• 1:07:23
  So,
• 1:07:24
  anyway, that's the story of Avatar Products,
• 1:07:27
  and
• 1:07:29
  I appreciate anyone who buys from me. I
• 1:07:32
  usually end up sometimes when I have to
• 1:07:34
  have communication with a customer, I meet somebody
• 1:07:37
  really fantastic.
• 1:07:38
  My customers are wonderful people.
• 1:07:41
  You guys, wonderful people.
• 1:07:44
  I like it. And of course, people can
• 1:07:45
  get the newsletter by going to your website
• 1:07:48
  about the sky.com.
• 1:07:50
  They can follow through
• 1:07:52
  the links there,
• 1:07:54
  but
• 1:07:55
  it's great to talk to you again.
• 1:07:57
  I apologize that it's been so long. I
• 1:07:59
  mean, I don't think anybody that I talk
• 1:08:01
  to now can say that we started in
• 1:08:04
  2013
• 1:08:05
  going back to the 60th show ever recorded.
• 1:08:07
  So to me, that is a big deal,
• 1:08:10
  and
• 1:08:11
  I just appreciate what you do. You are
• 1:08:13
  a legend in the space.
• 1:08:15
  If I think about the last one we
• 1:08:17
  did, it was
• 1:08:19
  2021,
• 1:08:20
  and it was largely about terrain theory. And
• 1:08:23
  I think around that
• 1:08:24
  time, I was just a little
• 1:08:27
  sick of the health stuff because it dominated
• 1:08:30
  so much
• 1:08:31
  of the COVID chapter,
• 1:08:33
  and you've got a new
• 1:08:35
  level,
• 1:08:36
  a new roster of people
• 1:08:39
  like doctor Andy Wakefield
• 1:08:41
  and
• 1:08:42
  Malone
• 1:08:43
  and a lot of these doctors,
• 1:08:45
  Jessica Rose, who were doing the rounds on
• 1:08:48
  podcast.
• 1:08:49
  And I was just like, man, I need
• 1:08:51
  some other topics besides health. It can't be
• 1:08:53
  all health shows all the time. So I
• 1:08:56
  think that's probably how the gap started,
• 1:08:59
  and then, you know, life just gets in
• 1:09:01
  the way. But I'm glad we could do
• 1:09:02
  it again. No. I'm very happy because people
• 1:09:05
  wrote to me and said, why aren't you
• 1:09:06
  on higher side chats? I said, I tried
• 1:09:08
  to email him and he doesn't respond. So
• 1:09:10
  maybe that's why didn't know. But, Greg, I
• 1:09:12
  just wanna blow your mind here. Please do.
• 1:09:15
  So we talked about cartels at the beginning
• 1:09:17
  of this show. Right? And I read that
• 1:09:20
  book by Charles Bowden, who actually
• 1:09:23
  ventured into Mexico and met with some of
• 1:09:26
  these nefarious characters and heard these terrible stories.
• 1:09:29
  And the book is a thick book. He
• 1:09:31
  spent years researching this book.
• 1:09:34
  And then I opened my favorite Harper's Magazine,
• 1:09:37
  and I don't read these magazines
• 1:09:39
  in sequence. So I have, like, a pile
• 1:09:42
  of Harper's. I just pick 1 and start
• 1:09:44
  reading it. And this is July 2023.
• 1:09:46
  It's a book review.
• 1:09:48
  And here's the book title.
• 1:09:50
  Drunk cartels do not exist,
• 1:09:53
  but Oswaldo
• 1:09:55
  Zavala,
• 1:09:57
  played it by William Savinor, Vanderbilt University Press,
• 1:10:01
  206 pages, 3495.
• 1:10:04
  Wow.
• 1:10:04
  There are people in Mexico, and these are
• 1:10:06
  people who have their feet on the ground,
• 1:10:08
  who've had family members killed,
• 1:10:11
  dismembered, hanging from bridges, that kind of thing.
• 1:10:13
  Right?
• 1:10:15
  And they say drug cartels do not exist.
• 1:10:17
  You know who it is according to them?
• 1:10:21
  The police and politicians.
• 1:10:25
  So I was reading this thinking, oh my
• 1:10:28
  god. Here's one guy who says drug cartels,
• 1:10:31
  you know, and everyone. All these people talking
• 1:10:33
  about cartels. We have movies about them. And
• 1:10:35
  then comes this guy who writes a book.
• 1:10:38
  It doesn't exist.
• 1:10:40
  So that's the beauty of our world.
• 1:10:44
  Well, I definitely think the dividing line between
• 1:10:47
  cartels
• 1:10:48
  and police and government and all that, it's,
• 1:10:52
  more blurred than ever for sure. Maybe it
• 1:10:55
  always was, which is the argument he's presenting,
• 1:10:57
  it seems.
• 1:10:58
  Yeah. So I'm gonna send you this article,
• 1:11:02
  and you can read it. It's a book
• 1:11:04
  review. I appreciate that.
• 1:11:06
  Well,
• 1:11:08
  again, thank you for your time. Thank you
• 1:11:10
  for all the great work you do for
• 1:11:12
  sending me the newsletters,
• 1:11:14
  and I'm glad that we could talk about
• 1:11:17
  some off the radar stuff today.
• 1:11:19
  I'm glad that my avocado
• 1:11:22
  blood money
• 1:11:23
  quota has been filled for
• 1:11:26
  episode topics.
• 1:11:27
  Good. You can take a rest now.
• 1:11:30
  Indeed.
• 1:11:31
  Alright. Well, enjoy the rest of your day.
• 1:11:33
  Enjoy
• 1:11:34
  luxurious
• 1:11:36
  California
• 1:11:37
  like I once did, and take care.
• 1:11:41
  Thank you. Goodbye, everyone.
• 1:11:46
  Alright. Sophia Smallstorm back in the hot seat.
• 1:11:49
  It has been a long time. Obviously, we
• 1:11:51
  talked about that, but she is great. I
• 1:11:54
  don't have a good reason as to why
• 1:11:56
  it's been so long. I think maybe with
• 1:11:58
  our last one being during the COVID aftermath
• 1:12:02
  and her being such a health focused guest,
• 1:12:05
  maybe I just wanted to lay all that
• 1:12:07
  down for a bit, but she's obviously versatile.
• 1:12:10
  And she's one of those few people that
• 1:12:12
  I think of as really embodying the best
• 1:12:15
  parts of the Californian
• 1:12:17
  archetype.
• 1:12:18
  I am familiar with the community she lives
• 1:12:20
  in. It's a little bit small. It's off
• 1:12:22
  the radar. Local business supporting,
• 1:12:26
  Corporate
• 1:12:26
  chain rejecting.
• 1:12:28
  High quality food and products, and homelessness is
• 1:12:32
  not a problem, and there's walkable everything.
• 1:12:35
  It's a dream, really.
• 1:12:37
  It's the California you see in the movies,
• 1:12:39
  but it's not the California talked about on
• 1:12:41
  the news.
• 1:12:42
  I can say having moved that, yeah, there's
• 1:12:45
  a lot of political freedom
• 1:12:47
  in Florida
• 1:12:48
  contrasted to California,
• 1:12:50
  but it's also kind of a food desert.
• 1:12:52
  It's hard to find organic food here. It's
• 1:12:54
  hard to find locally
• 1:12:55
  grown organic for sure.
• 1:12:58
  It's not something that the culture here really
• 1:13:01
  respects or prioritizes,
• 1:13:04
  and it's been a bit of a problem.
• 1:13:05
  It's a huge contrast.
• 1:13:07
  And one of the main things I miss
• 1:13:09
  about that Californian culture,
• 1:13:11
  the farmers markets,
• 1:13:12
  the acknowledgments
• 1:13:14
  of how important it is to let money
• 1:13:17
  flow within the community, all that kind of
• 1:13:19
  stuff.
• 1:13:20
  But her and I are just in different
• 1:13:22
  stages of life. For someone starting a young
• 1:13:24
  family in the 20 twenties
• 1:13:27
  with the prices in areas like hers already
• 1:13:30
  well out of reach,
• 1:13:31
  it just isn't gonna work. So I will
• 1:13:33
  take a little gentle ribbing about leaving, but
• 1:13:36
  there's plenty I miss and also plenty I
• 1:13:39
  don't.
• 1:13:40
  However, I was thinking more about the cartels
• 1:13:43
  and avocados, and I do find it to
• 1:13:45
  be an interesting story
• 1:13:47
  along with just how dependent the whole nation
• 1:13:49
  well, theirs and ours, I guess. Both nations
• 1:13:52
  are dependent on the drug trade.
• 1:13:55
  And for the cartels,
• 1:13:56
  strategically, yes. Use the extra cash to compromise
• 1:14:00
  other markets that are easier to be legitimized
• 1:14:03
  in.
• 1:14:04
  Obviously, pretty smart of them, but it's really
• 1:14:06
  not much different than, say, the jaquita banana
• 1:14:09
  story, you know, the Banana Republic term, the
• 1:14:12
  whole thing of lobbying to use
• 1:14:15
  the might of the military,
• 1:14:17
  or the CIA, to compromise growing areas for
• 1:14:20
  these corporations,
• 1:14:22
  to stage coups, to get these leaders
• 1:14:25
  in the third world, in the tropical areas,
• 1:14:28
  to be
• 1:14:29
  basically just puppets for one of our corporations?
• 1:14:33
  It happens all the time. And, of course,
• 1:14:34
  we like our gangsterism to be civilized.
• 1:14:38
  But it's not all that different than what
• 1:14:40
  the cartels do, and I'm sure this is
• 1:14:41
  part of the argument that cartels make all
• 1:14:44
  the time to justify
• 1:14:46
  their actions.
• 1:14:48
  But, yes, another example of me just kinda
• 1:14:51
  booking
• 1:14:52
  guests without paying much attention to the dates
• 1:14:55
  and what's going on in the world.
• 1:14:57
  And I'm sure this would have been a
• 1:14:59
  bit more current and relevant if we had
• 1:15:01
  recorded right after the inauguration
• 1:15:03
  instead of days before.
• 1:15:05
  Maybe it's better because then we can't just
• 1:15:07
  talk about all the other things that other
• 1:15:09
  shows are talking about, but, clearly, a lot
• 1:15:11
  has happened.
• 1:15:12
  And I think a good chunk of the
• 1:15:13
  country
• 1:15:14
  just wants action.
• 1:15:17
  I saw some statistics lately that young people
• 1:15:20
  in the US and Europe are way more
• 1:15:21
  willing to accept dictatorship,
• 1:15:24
  and it was presented as a very scary
• 1:15:26
  thing to see in our youth and right.
• 1:15:28
  Yeah. I don't want dictatorship either.
• 1:15:31
  But to play devil's advocate for them, anyone
• 1:15:33
  under 40 has just seen election after election
• 1:15:36
  where we get all these empty promises and
• 1:15:38
  then, oops, congress is gridlocked.
• 1:15:40
  Nobody will work with anybody. Here comes another
• 1:15:42
  filibuster. Here's another 55%
• 1:15:45
  vote when 68% is required.
• 1:15:49
  It's always the excuse. Right?
• 1:15:51
  So when I see a stat like that,
• 1:15:53
  I just think that younger people in particular
• 1:15:55
  are like,
• 1:15:56
  fine. I guess I'm okay with moving that
• 1:15:59
  direction because it seems like the only way
• 1:16:01
  to do anything.
• 1:16:03
  And so Trump signed over a 100 executive
• 1:16:05
  orders so far in 11 days and undid,
• 1:16:08
  like, 70 of Biden's.
• 1:16:10
  And, look, you'd have to go through each
• 1:16:12
  one and decide how you feel about it,
• 1:16:14
  but I see both the excitement over just
• 1:16:17
  getting to fucking work
• 1:16:19
  and the concerns
• 1:16:20
  over, hey.
• 1:16:21
  What happened to going through the appropriate channels
• 1:16:24
  for some of this stuff?
• 1:16:25
  Do we really wanna set a precedent of
• 1:16:28
  government by decree?
• 1:16:30
  And even for the Trump fans, fine. You
• 1:16:32
  like the guy. Good. Well, he's only gonna
• 1:16:34
  be in office for 4 years, and then
• 1:16:36
  we've set a precedent for someone you might
• 1:16:38
  not like.
• 1:16:40
  It's difficult. Difficult nuanced stuff. But, of course,
• 1:16:44
  we got a big announcement about project Stargate.
• 1:16:47
  Such an esoterically
• 1:16:49
  drenched name for basically a smart city AI
• 1:16:52
  infrastructure
• 1:16:53
  deal.
• 1:16:54
  I'm sure we'll be talking about that for
• 1:16:56
  years. And we got all this talk about
• 1:16:59
  Doge and smaller government and eliminating all this
• 1:17:02
  bloat. Great. Again. Sure.
• 1:17:04
  But a lot of alternative people are saying
• 1:17:06
  that what's actually happening is these positions are
• 1:17:09
  being cleared out, so there's no resistance left
• 1:17:12
  to these sweeping changes.
• 1:17:14
  Many of which are not going to be
• 1:17:16
  good.
• 1:17:17
  And I think we gotta ask if we're
• 1:17:19
  in the middle of an AI war already.
• 1:17:21
  What's going on with these planes and these
• 1:17:23
  collisions and these crashes? You know?
• 1:17:26
  I think there's some real behind the curtain
• 1:17:28
  kind of stuff going on, and we've talked
• 1:17:30
  about the Talpiot program in the past. I
• 1:17:33
  think something like that might be happening with
• 1:17:35
  China too. I heard one journalist break it
• 1:17:38
  down as that we might not know why
• 1:17:40
  these planes crashed or collided until a few
• 1:17:43
  years down the road
• 1:17:45
  when China wants to take Taiwan or wants
• 1:17:47
  to do something.
• 1:17:49
  And they call the president and say, hey.
• 1:17:50
  Remember those crashes? Wouldn't it be a shame
• 1:17:53
  if that happened 100 of more times this
• 1:17:56
  week?
• 1:17:57
  Maybe you should focus on that and let
• 1:17:58
  us do what we're doing, or take these
• 1:18:00
  tariffs off, or whatever. Leverage is leverage.
• 1:18:04
  I'm just curious if these computer systems are
• 1:18:07
  compromised and this is just the tip of
• 1:18:09
  the iceberg.
• 1:18:10
  That would be my big concern. They can
• 1:18:13
  make some planes collide today, but
• 1:18:16
  what about this spilling into critical infrastructure, killing
• 1:18:19
  the power or water in big cities?
• 1:18:22
  I mean, we don't do any of our
• 1:18:23
  own shit. You can criticize the tariff play,
• 1:18:27
  but at this point, if you were given
• 1:18:30
  the wheel, how do you incentivize people to
• 1:18:33
  build stuff here? Because building stuff here is
• 1:18:35
  the only way that we maybe get some
• 1:18:37
  of the jobs back
• 1:18:39
  and also control our own production.
• 1:18:42
  If you want to reel back globalism
• 1:18:45
  in a world dominated by financial incentives, then
• 1:18:49
  you have to use some kind of financial
• 1:18:50
  incentive to
• 1:18:52
  move the needle back the other way. I
• 1:18:54
  mean, who knows what's really going on behind
• 1:18:56
  the scenes, but on the surface level, that
• 1:18:58
  makes logical sense to me.
• 1:19:01
  But so much is happening so fast. It's
• 1:19:03
  hard to really keep track of and make
• 1:19:05
  a proper assessment of before you're hit with
• 1:19:07
  some next thing. But I can say I
• 1:19:09
  don't trust the Tech bro administration, and I
• 1:19:12
  think they might be grossly outplayed and out
• 1:19:15
  of their depth.
• 1:19:16
  But what are you gonna do?
• 1:19:18
  Pay attention to the things you can control
• 1:19:20
  and have the grace to ignore the rest
• 1:19:22
  or something like that. I don't know. I
• 1:19:23
  never went to AA, but that's the motto.
• 1:19:27
  And we can say no to jabs, and
• 1:19:29
  we can try to have our own backup
• 1:19:31
  power and good local food supplies and unplug
• 1:19:34
  from the Internet when we need it. And
• 1:19:36
  then you just kinda gotta let the chips
• 1:19:38
  fall where they may.
• 1:19:40
  And that said, I did have a good
• 1:19:42
  time today, though. Shouldn't wait so long next
• 1:19:44
  time to check-in with Sofia. She really is
• 1:19:47
  willing to go anywhere.
• 1:19:49
  It took us a minute to get going,
• 1:19:51
  but I think when we opened it up
• 1:19:52
  towards the end of the first hour and
• 1:19:54
  then into the second hour, we started cooking
• 1:19:56
  with gas. We talked about grounding and electron
• 1:20:00
  deficiency
• 1:20:01
  and cellular repair,
• 1:20:03
  corruption in the silver and gold markets, abusive
• 1:20:06
  mining
• 1:20:07
  of the Sarawico mountain,
• 1:20:09
  and then we dared to mention Sandy Hook
• 1:20:12
  and
• 1:20:13
  what Sofia called the arkonic
• 1:20:15
  nerve. I like that term that there's these
• 1:20:17
  things that are just that level 11.
• 1:20:20
  Don't go there. You're hitting the iconic nerve.
• 1:20:23
  And we mentioned at least one other thing
• 1:20:25
  that might
• 1:20:27
  be such a nerve, but all good stuff.
• 1:20:30
  The full 2 hour interview is always better
• 1:20:32
  and deeper than just the first. So often
• 1:20:34
  I hear from people, well, I never signed
• 1:20:36
  up because I just felt the first hour
• 1:20:38
  was enough. I felt like it was complete.
• 1:20:40
  But that is why I tried to at
• 1:20:42
  least bullet point a few of the topics
• 1:20:44
  in the second hour, but it's always
• 1:20:46
  deeper and better because we
• 1:20:49
  get more comfortable as we go along.
• 1:20:52
  Sometimes get a little more loose lipped, if
• 1:20:54
  you know what I'm saying.
• 1:20:56
  And we got almost 8 100 great interviews
• 1:20:58
  in that archive for Plus members. Come on
• 1:21:00
  in. The water's fine.
• 1:21:02
  Use the link right at the top of
• 1:21:03
  the show notes and see for yourself. And
• 1:21:05
  Hire side news,
• 1:21:07
  the big Hire Soup event is happening and
• 1:21:10
  the details are ironed out. Gordon and I
• 1:21:13
  are gonna be doing a free
• 1:21:14
  live talk and hangout on March 8th at
• 1:21:17
  High Springs Brewing in High Springs, Florida noonish
• 1:21:20
  till about 5 PM.
• 1:21:22
  Could we have sold tickets to this? Yeah.
• 1:21:24
  Could we have called in some other people
• 1:21:26
  and tried to make it a bigger thing,
• 1:21:28
  maybe a multi day event? Oh, yeah. We
• 1:21:30
  could have.
• 1:21:32
  But I don't like seeing these big conferences
• 1:21:34
  with these $2, $300
• 1:21:36
  ticket prices.
• 1:21:38
  It gets a little crazy, so we said,
• 1:21:40
  whatever. We're gonna do a smaller thing.
• 1:21:43
  What more do you need besides a card
• 1:21:44
  table and me and Gordon having some topics
• 1:21:47
  to talk about?
• 1:21:48
  Some drinks, some company, and a good hang,
• 1:21:51
  And why do you need to charge for
• 1:21:53
  that?
• 1:21:54
  So let's see what happens. We've never put
• 1:21:56
  out a free event to the wider unpaid
• 1:21:58
  audience before, so we really don't know what
• 1:22:00
  kind of turnout to expect.
• 1:22:03
  Usually, when we combine the tribes, we keep
• 1:22:05
  it to members only so as to not
• 1:22:07
  overwhelm
• 1:22:08
  any business or coffee shop that we might
• 1:22:10
  be
• 1:22:11
  using
• 1:22:13
  just to know we have a more managed
• 1:22:14
  situation. Because when we did Austin, we didn't
• 1:22:17
  charge either, but we only told our inner
• 1:22:19
  circle.
• 1:22:20
  And this time, we're just gonna go for
• 1:22:22
  it. Life is short. Events like these are
• 1:22:24
  rare.
• 1:22:25
  Come join the fun. The guys at High
• 1:22:27
  Springs are listeners, and you might recall me
• 1:22:30
  calling out a few of their meetups in
• 1:22:32
  the past.
• 1:22:33
  So we're in good company, but it is
• 1:22:34
  an out of the way place, not too
• 1:22:36
  close to any major city.
• 1:22:38
  And here in comes the second layer of
• 1:22:41
  the event. We are renting a party bus
• 1:22:43
  here in Tampa to drive us there and
• 1:22:45
  back,
• 1:22:46
  and that is open to you as well.
• 1:22:48
  The bus is not free, though. It's $75.
• 1:22:51
  Kinda sucks, but that is just the cost
• 1:22:53
  of the bus divided by the seats on
• 1:22:55
  it. So you can get yourself to High
• 1:22:58
  Springs and hang out with both of us
• 1:22:59
  and a bunch of like minded people
• 1:23:02
  for free. Just have a good time.
• 1:23:04
  Or you can hop on the bus with
• 1:23:06
  us in Tampa,
• 1:23:07
  and it is a 2 hour trip there.
• 1:23:09
  And there is a bathroom on the bus,
• 1:23:11
  and it's drink friendly, so we're gonna be
• 1:23:13
  having some good pregame fun.
• 1:23:15
  And then, of course, we will bring you
• 1:23:17
  back in the evening.
• 1:23:18
  The bus will be meeting in front of
• 1:23:19
  the Tampa Theater, a
• 1:23:22
  landmark that anyone in Tampa knows. And hot
• 1:23:24
  tip,
• 1:23:25
  Supernatural
• 1:23:26
  is next door, and they make the best
• 1:23:29
  breakfast sandwiches in the city. So I see
• 1:23:31
  myself smoking a joint in the park across
• 1:23:33
  the street, grabbing a coffee and a breakfast
• 1:23:35
  sandwich and some beers for the road and
• 1:23:37
  hopping on that bus and having a good
• 1:23:39
  time with the people.
• 1:23:40
  If you wanna go to the event, please
• 1:23:43
  RSVP
• 1:23:44
  on the event page at higher side meetups.com.
• 1:23:46
  We just wanna have a decent idea of
• 1:23:48
  how many people will show up,
• 1:23:50
  and that's also where you will find the
• 1:23:52
  link to secure a bus seat if you
• 1:23:54
  wanna do that too.
• 1:23:56
  Not bad to have a sober driver back
• 1:23:58
  to the city. Right?
• 1:23:59
  So I just had to let you guys
• 1:24:01
  know about that. I'm glad we're able to
• 1:24:03
  bring
• 1:24:03
  High Springs Brewing some business since they are
• 1:24:06
  kind of in the network and just good
• 1:24:08
  people.
• 1:24:09
  I guess you can call me the Dave
• 1:24:11
  Portnoy of conspiracy podcast, and we're supporting local
• 1:24:14
  businesses.
• 1:24:15
  But I don't wanna get too ahead of
• 1:24:16
  myself before we go over other things on
• 1:24:18
  the meetup calendar. We gotta go over the
• 1:24:20
  rating of the last episode. Andrew Collins, a
• 1:24:23
  legend in the ancient hidden history
• 1:24:26
  space, and I coulda called it with my
• 1:24:28
  eyes closed. 4.7.
• 1:24:31
  I expect no less. He is the man.
• 1:24:34
  He can talk plasmas,
• 1:24:35
  shamanism,
• 1:24:36
  megalithic sites,
• 1:24:38
  Anunnaki,
• 1:24:39
  mystic religious relics, all sorts of great things,
• 1:24:42
  and the overlap between all of them. I
• 1:24:44
  love how he gives his take on the
• 1:24:46
  foundation of a lot of religious myths and
• 1:24:48
  tropes. I'm largely on that page.
• 1:24:51
  We had a few people grumbling about
• 1:24:53
  some comments he made about black holes.
• 1:24:56
  Sure.
• 1:24:57
  Be that as it may, great episode.
• 1:25:00
  And, you know, sometimes
• 1:25:01
  I listen to a guy like Andrew Collins,
• 1:25:04
  and I start thinking about the D Wave
• 1:25:07
  computer or
• 1:25:08
  looking at, like, the shape of a server
• 1:25:11
  farm,
• 1:25:12
  and I consider the black cube and how
• 1:25:14
  foundational it is to our religions, even the
• 1:25:16
  cross being an unfolded cube.
• 1:25:19
  What is this voice that people are picking
• 1:25:21
  up and
• 1:25:23
  is transmitting to the ark of the covenant.
• 1:25:25
  I think about the cyclical nature of things
• 1:25:27
  and stories of highly advanced Atlantis, and I
• 1:25:31
  wonder if what was being worshiped or heard
• 1:25:34
  was some sort of supercomputer
• 1:25:36
  from Atlantis playing the role of God for
• 1:25:39
  people who were just too far removed to
• 1:25:40
  understand what it was or is if it's
• 1:25:43
  still out there.
• 1:25:44
  They say the truth is so shocking people
• 1:25:47
  would not be able to handle it. And
• 1:25:48
  when you consider how religious some people are
• 1:25:51
  or how convinced they are of the alien
• 1:25:53
  motif,
• 1:25:55
  what if aliens and UFOs are aspects of
• 1:25:57
  this super system that was built by ancient
• 1:26:00
  humans?
• 1:26:01
  Who knows? That's, probably something to save for
• 1:26:04
  another time, but 4.7,
• 1:26:06
  I love it.
• 1:26:07
  So glad I got Andrew Collins to come
• 1:26:09
  on. Truly honored. I hope I did him
• 1:26:11
  justice.
• 1:26:12
  And as for the rest of the meetup
• 1:26:14
  calendar,
• 1:26:15
  February is pretty active. February 3rd, Gale Braith's
• 1:26:18
  Ale House in Auckland, New Zealand. Been calling
• 1:26:20
  that one out for a minute. February 7th,
• 1:26:23
  Bunks Bar in Portland, Oregon.
• 1:26:25
  February 8th,
• 1:26:27
  Greensville, Pennsylvania,
• 1:26:28
  McCall Collective Tap House, February 8th as well.
• 1:26:32
  3 Nations Brewing in Carlton, Texas.
• 1:26:36
  February 10th, Santa Fe, New Mexico at Roots
• 1:26:38
  and Leaves, February 15th,
• 1:26:41
  Vlissingen,
• 1:26:42
  the Netherlands, h two
• 1:26:44
  booster.
• 1:26:45
  And then, of course, it jumps to March
• 1:26:48
  8th, High Springs Brewing,
• 1:26:50
  and the Higher Soup
• 1:26:52
  live talk and hang. I I say live
• 1:26:54
  talk. I mean, I guess it's a live
• 1:26:56
  podcast. We will be recording it for
• 1:26:59
  a plus and premium member bonus,
• 1:27:01
  but whatever. Come be part of it.
• 1:27:04
  I'm sure
• 1:27:05
  there will be a lengthy q and a
• 1:27:07
  when we're done covering the topic that we
• 1:27:09
  settled on.
• 1:27:10
  But great. Well, that is the way the
• 1:27:12
  cookie crumbles. Do check out Sofia's store and
• 1:27:15
  blog. Sign up for her newsletter if you
• 1:27:17
  want that inside scoop.
• 1:27:19
  I respect so much how she's managed to
• 1:27:22
  do her own thing, covering unique topics, every
• 1:27:25
  newsletter,
• 1:27:26
  and I'm lucky to know her.
• 1:27:28
  But thanks for listening. I'm calling it in.
• 1:27:30
  I've done my part.
• 1:27:32
  Your move, Arconic agents, artificial life promoters, and
• 1:27:35
  avocado cartels.
• 1:27:37
  Your
• 1:27:38
  fucking move. We're spiraling
• 1:27:41
  down,
• 1:27:42
  try to keep
• 1:27:44
  composure.
• 1:27:45
  So much to learn about
• 1:27:49
  that needs exposure. She finds a story almost
• 1:27:50
  any place.
• 1:27:52
  I'm
• 1:27:55
  story almost any place.
• 1:27:58
  We're lucky
• 1:27:59
  to have her
• 1:28:02
  tracking every kiss.
• 1:28:05
  She's a small store making big
• 1:28:38
  Laying out more lies on a bed of
• 1:28:40
  broken promise.
• 1:28:43
  It's a rocky road.
• 1:28:46
  Can't drive it straight through.
• 1:28:50
  A letter come
• 1:30:12
  hide.