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#333 - For Azeroth!: "The Many Exploits of Sean" · For Azeroth!: A World of Warcraft Podcast

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No don't get over it. Don't get over it.
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Get on the PTR test, it gives you a headache.
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Tell them to change it before it becomes live and harder to
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change for Lauderon. For the Karen tour.
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For. Pandaria for calendar to the
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burning region for Gilneus or has not done for the Lich King.
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For the. Cindori for the Alliance, for
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the Whore for Azeroth. Hello and welcome back to a very
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special episode of For Azeroth. Because we've got 11.2 news.
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Blizzard has opened up the floodgates and has put out
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interviews through different gaming websites and articles as
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well as the PTR, while not up for testing right now, has begun
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well has come up so that people can data mine it.
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So we're getting a lot of information, so much that we're
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not even going to be able to go through it all today, but like,
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let's get right into it and see what there is.
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So first thing that I would love to talk about, of course, is the
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general overview. 11.2 doesn't have a release date, but this is
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the Ghosts of Koresh. So sorry for all those people
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who were thinking maybe it'd be the Root Lands or maybe we're
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dealing with something with the Arathi that's clearly a plant
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for later on in the World Soul Saga that will get through that.
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And after playing through the story in 11 point 1.7, I
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definitely have tinfoil hat theories as as it were.
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But for those of you who jumped in, played the lore Walker
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stuff, the one that is most relevant is of course the stuff
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with the ethereals and with the brokers.
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Because yes, those two parts from Shadow lands from like, I
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guess BC, but like the theories of being all over Wow since
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their initial introduction in BC, those two parts are coming
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together. We are going to the devastated
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home world of the Ethereals and we are going to have to fight
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our first full formed Void Lord. Well, kind of we, we did deal
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with this enemy back in BC. There there's a little bit of
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confusion because actually wasn't that big a part of BC.
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He wasn't like a big raid boss or anything like that.
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It's actually like a dungeon encounter.
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I do remember hi, this is Lex. I do remember when I first saw
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the news and saw the name of the boss, I was like, oh, it's kind
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of lame that they're making up a brand new boss that has zero
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lore backing for the final boss of this entire expansion.
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Like they couldn't have done anything that we knew the name
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of. And then I watched the videos
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and I was like, I'm supposed to know this name?
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Yeah, I don't think he was a dungeon boss.
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I'm pretty sure it was just a quest mob you fight in nether,
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storm or Hellfire. Hellfire Peninsula.
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Peninsula. That's it.
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I think that's where the last fight with him actually happens
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off the edge there. It was so it was a quest, little
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side quest sort of thing. Yeah, just just a quest mob that
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you fought and killed. You looked like a little
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blueberry. It's the best glow up ever.
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If you can't handle me at my Burning Crusade 8 Poly count,
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you don't deserve me at my cosmic level Stormwind size.
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Yeah, that's the big billing for him.
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He is going to be the largest boss in World of Warcraft to
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date. They said as big as Stormwind.
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We've seen people do that comparison.
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I even put out a post on blue Sky being like you versus the
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the Void Lord she tells you not to worry about and it is quite
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the glow up there. But yeah, he is going to be the
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final boss in the 8 boss raid. And Sean, you want to tell us a
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little bit about this raid? Yeah, it's an 8 boss raid, but
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technically it's only a 7 boss raid and one of the bosses is
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optional, so. And there's no indication yet
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what that means for Hall of Fame or what that means first of all,
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first whether that optional boss will need to be killed for those
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to count or not. I suspect it gets killed no
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matter what though. So say a boss raid, and they
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have said there's an interview that they did with community
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website Wowhead where they talked with the difficulty of
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Nurbar Palace, specifically Galliwicks and Mugsy, and
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Blizzard said, Oh yeah, sorry, Undermind, yeah.
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Yeah, Mugsy was so tough in Nurbar Palace, like I was losing
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my mind on that boss. And if you if you haven't read
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this article, you definitely need to read this.
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I think we'll probably link it in the show notes maybe.
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I don't know if we still even do show notes.
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If you want to find it, I'll link it in the fast discord, so
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come check it out there. The two parts, so you'll have to
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link put two parts because I'm of course I'm only.
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Going to link this one part Part 2 famously.
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Anyway, so they said they were really happy with where the
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Galliwick's difficulty landed. They felt that and and they even
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called out, you know, we're not looking at race the world first
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outside of that. We're not designing these bosses
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for that. They said we we're really happy
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with the way Galloway's landed the difficulty opposed to most
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teams going for CE and AOTC. And they where they felt they if
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they were to do something differently, it's they would
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have actually made mugsy easier because the difficulty level of
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mugsy was was too high. They felt I love this.
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So I've a long bit of a proponent that the game is more
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fun when it's more accessible. The more people that play it,
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the better. I think the difficulty of
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undermine was fantastic and they also this article is so good.
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They also specifically talk about all of the things, anybody
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who's a long time listener, the show has heard me complain about
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the timing on things like the mines on Sprocket and the the
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jails on Mugsy. They specifically call these
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things out in this interview and they're like, we could have
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given these more time. We recognize that when players
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are given more time, like the bombs on Galliwicks, when I I'm
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reading their words and it felt like I worked for Blizzard and I
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was writing their words for them.
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But they said when we give people that more time like we
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did with the bombs on Galliwicks, they don't need to
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turn to week ORS or external add-ons to solve these things
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for them. They do it on their own and
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that's the target we want to hit.
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It made me so, so happy. I mean, I read that.
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I was like is is, is this fast F like is somebody quoting Sean
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here? Yeah.
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I read that turn to our discord and then saw, hey, 1 button week
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or with no defaults put in, it's like, and you know what?
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Then the community could just say, Nah, we'll make it anyways.
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So yeah. That has been for that has.
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So if anybody has seen that that has been naked already, that's
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no longer able to work that that add on.
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In his current integration, yeah.
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And the raid looks good. So there's 8 bosses.
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We have the names of them all, they specifically called it a
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couple in the Wow cast. There's a sewer guard who's
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going to be fun to fight. I think we'll be using phase
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diving to deal with his mechanics.
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And then hopefully all at the same time because I don't enjoy
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dungeon fights where half the raid is phased and the other
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half isn't. Looking at you, Kelph Azad.
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And then we have a group of demon hunters, a council of
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demon hunters, a cabal if you will.
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They're up to no good. They're definitely someone we're
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going to fight. And the the wildest tinfoil hats
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think they're teasing 1/3 Demon Hunter spec because one of them
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has purple glaves. The pitcher on this Koresh
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patch. Where to go sleuths?
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Internet sleuths. And then we have the silk
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creature that they used to get the bindings that they wrap the
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Ethereals in. We fight and that just looks
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like a big furry spider. And then another one is
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Ethereals who aren't yet fully wrapped, so I think that one's
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gonna be sort of chaotic and wild.
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And then obviously Dementias as the last boss.
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So there's three. We don't know what to expect
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yet, but RAID testing starts next Friday, so hopefully we'll
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find out. I'm so excited about this raid.
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Sorry Manny, I've been talking over you all night.
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I'll let you speak in a minute. I'm so excited about this raid.
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I everything they're saying is perfect.
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Also the things about how in this this like what they're
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thinking about is the fact that in raid versus in mythic plus,
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you can do a lot more coordination and that's what
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they really want to move towards.
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They talked about the Mecca torque thing with the things
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above your head, which I thought was really fun.
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So everything that they're saying I am over the moon about.
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I think this could be really really good.
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I would like to see what that spider looks like in
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arachnophobia mode. Would be nice if they gave it a
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a separate model where it's like silk crab but.
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I'm playing with arachnophobia mode.
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This is so funny. I never even considered that
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that is something I want to see. I I think that this could be
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cool. Like there's a lot of things
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that like pop into my head. If we're doing a optional fight,
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could it be a really strong tough boss?
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So rather than doing like a secret mythic only phase or
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something, they instead have something that's like Algalon
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ish where it's like you can take this boss, but it's going to be
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hard. And then getting to that
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optional encounter requires certain things.
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So that would be interesting to have a point to Algol on because
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that was like a time where people were doing world first,
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but then there was like a, hey, who killed Algolon first was a
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was a big thing. Again, it's it's something that
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would be interesting not just for the race of world first, but
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like just general for for players where you can do this
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sort of stuff could add a bunch of lore to that sort sort of
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thing. I also I also saw those tinfoil
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hats about the demon hunters and so forth.
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It would be. It is those demon hunters that
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is the optional raid boss. They're they're encounters
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called the soul hunters. Dude that would not knowing now
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that they're the optional boss as well.
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I don't want to give credence to these tinfoilers, but I don't
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know. Well, I made the very fairpoint
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that there was one. One of the three is dressed like
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a Havoc Demon Hunter. One of the three is dressed in
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classic Vengeance Demon Hunter gear.
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Who's the middle guy? I'm not.
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I'm not saying I'm tinfoil hatting it up.
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I'm just saying wouldn't it be cool?
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Wouldn't it be fun? I always find that with the
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things that they've done, they'd have to like fundamentally
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change the game a bit in order to get these in like it used to
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be. Like yes, throw in a throw in a
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new spec, it's easy. It's just that it's this.
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You make the modifications, have it sit on its own, but with hero
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talents now you then have to break apart hero talents.
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Demon hunters are both share the same things.
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If you add the third spec, are you now going to take away one
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of the hero talents and give them a new hero talent till that
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they like it fits in a triangle like everything else?
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Or if you were to put in a four spec for any of the ones with
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three, same issue. So like there there's a it's not
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saying that it can't be done. It just requires a little bit
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more. And I do mention hero talents
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because a big thing with this raid is the tear sets.
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These tear sets are going to be the first tier sets that are
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keyed to your hero talent, not your spec.
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So if you are a protection paladin, you're going to have a
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variant of your your four set and your two set that is based
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on what which one you chose for your hero talent.
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I think that's pretty cool. They are data mined.
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Again, data mining is there, so do check on those.
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I'm I'm immediately wanting to throw feedback as soon as they
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put up the PTR thing. I'm just going to be like, hey,
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don't do this specifically enhance enhancement.
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Like not the entire concept. I think the entire concept is
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cool when they have the time and energy to generate 36 * 2 so
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we're at so we're at 72 different tier set bonuses and
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balance them. Go go for it guys.
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I'm glad that it's not every time because that seems like a
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lot. And it is cool when they do that
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because it allows them to ratchet things in a way like
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have an additional tuning knob that is very specific to
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something something going on. So they can like change the
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frequency of procs or the OR the intensity of the ability or the
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duration so forth. And then just affect whichever
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particular spec slash hero talent is going nuts at the
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current time, while not also hurting the other hero talent
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that might that that spec might be using or even the other spec
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that's using that hero talent. So.
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They're definitely very experimental in this tier.
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I'm noticing like from what they're saying, I think I caught
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this correctly, that the way that they're doing the lore this
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season is gonna be the story. Like, what do you play through?
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And then the raid, and then the dungeon, which I'm trying not to
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immediately find something to dislike.
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I. Sure it.
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Doesn't make sense because you do like dungeons are a week 1
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activity and raid is a like week.
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It's not unprecedented though. We did the same in Shadow Lands
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when we cleared through Spires of Ascension.
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We fought Davos before we ever found out that she turned.
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Oh, fascinating. I guess I wasn't paying
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attention to shadow lands. You know, nobody was even the.
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Blizzard I, I, I was, I think it's, I think that in general
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with Wow, you have to just accept that the story serves to
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get people to the end game. And so I generally think that
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the story of the dungeon is going to be weaker because they
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don't want to spoil the story of the raid, especially because
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this is the last raid of the, of the expansion.
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Like just no, there's going to, it's just, it doesn't seem like
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we're going to get much of, if any story, like it's going to be
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like, hey, this little tangent that was in the raid is now
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going to be solved over here. Another character that I thought
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might have been bigger. And it's just sort of being like
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I, I hope in the campaign of 11.2 we hear more about Nexus
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Princess, but unfortunately she's now going to be the rival
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in Delves. And Delves just have not had any
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story whatsoever this entire expansion.
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And purposely they, they've decided that they didn't want to
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have story in Delves, even though I feel like Delves seat
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would be like the best place for story because it has no time
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restriction and you can do it by yourself.
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But yeah, she's going to be the following, the underpin and and
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what was it, Zivox? Yeah, bug boy.
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Bug boy, I can't remember his name, that's how memorable these
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guys are. And following in the fit fence
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of them, she's going to be like the final challenge and the
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themes will be all around that. I think it'll be cool to see if
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they do like the same thing as like the underpin or the
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overcharge where they have the enemies come in come in.
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But I I think it was like Zyfex. I I just can't Zykvir, Zykvir.
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Thank you. No.
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Problem I had to look it up because zyfox did not sound
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right and I was like man I should know this word.
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No, you shouldn't because it meant nothing it.
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Like I don't really do delves well.
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Not even if you did delves. Sorry if you don't do delves.
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But like just in general. It was just like, yeah, she had
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a minion and the minion had a name.
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And if you decided to, like, go out of your way, you would kill
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this minion. But if you did it, no big deal.
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Yeah, I, I will say I agree. And I am a big dove Gurley.
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And I also don't necessarily know that I think there was much
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lore to be had there. And I, I, I actually, I think I
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kind of like mentally blacked that out.
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I was about to say like, well, the Nexus Princess, she's the
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final boss of that the the dungeon.
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So my brain put her in a cooler spot.
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So I'm a little I'm a yeah, I I agree.
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I think that's kind of A and unless they're going to rework
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how they're going to manage Delves, that's kind of a crappy
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place to place her. But maybe that means she won't
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die. Maybe that means that she'll
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come back. Oh good, maybe I don't know I I
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mean good for delves for getting a character that are we just
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saying delves are batting above their like their league to get a
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character like this? It just seems weird because like
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delves are a new thing. It just, this is, I think this
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is the most fleshed out character that Dells have gotten
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and it's only because she existed in one encounter in a
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raid that she sort of had some some lines like that doesn't.
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Think I wouldn't call her fleshed out at all.
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She's on par with Zach very underpinned.
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She's a single raid encounter. There's nothing that like we we
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know nothing of her leading up to the raid.
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She's not mentioned leading up to the raid.
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We'd fight her and then she disappeared.
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Like there's, I don't think she's.
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Which means that she's currently the same as the last two, but
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then she's gonna have a tear to give her twice as much as the
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last two. Well.
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And she also has, she just has the like, the fact that she
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disappeared, like they very purposely did not kill her, made
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everyone think she was gonna be a.
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Big deal. Right, So I think a part of it
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is just if she comes back to be a delve and like if she comes
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back to the Adele boss and it means that they do really cool
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story in Delves and it's really exciting.
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Great if she comes back to be Adele boss and she is Adele boss
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on par with the other delve bosses.
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I do feel a little let down that they made me watch the whole
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she's not dead and she's, I mean she's basically dead.
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Yeah, she she was a great raid fight, like a a stellar
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encounter, Very difficult, a lot of fun, challenging, but fair.
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And they said in the broadcast that this time she's not holding
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back. There is a 0% chance she's
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harder solo in a Delve than she was in a raid. 0% chance.
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I, I appreciate the sentiment. You know, we're hyping her up.
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We're pumping up those tires. There is 0% chance that she is
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going to feel like she has has unleashed anything extra on us
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in the Delve. Maybe she just kills you.
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Like maybe you just can't win this.
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Season, you can't win. This is an instant execute.
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I would be down for that. I would be down for that.
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But yeah, so I expect that they're going to have like same
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sort of minions and such that are themed around her.
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And it's a good way of having like the ethereals, like going
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into our world and trying to get stuff.
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And so like they're in The Dells.
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I doubt she's probably going to steal the hat.
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So we'll get some new cosmetics that are probably ethereal
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themed instead of stupid hat themed.
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All these cloaks. She didn't wear cloaks.
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I know you're joking. I know you're joking, but like
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cloaks wouldn't be bad. That said, yeah, like we'll
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we'll get new chance Morgan that I they gave zero time on delves
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outside of that, which I feel is kind of damning because even
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when like other systems are in bad spots or in, you know,
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pretty decent spots. See you still talk about them
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because you're interested. I did not hear much about Delves
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poor PvP. We'll leave that to PvP shows,
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but raid got some good stuff and mythic plus as well, which is
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our next thing. Mythic plus there was a good
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conversation about the difficulties and such in season
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2 and as well as resilient and they felt that they landed in a
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pretty good place. But there is an addition that
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was in again community site, Wowheads article and Lex I
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believe you are interested in deserters.
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Yes. So they didn't give us a lot of
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details, which means that everyone is spinning this off in
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whatever way they can spin it off.
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Very exciting. And we're all being normal and
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good in whatever directions we're going, I'm sure, and very
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valid and reasonable. But for those of you who have
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not started going in whatever direction, basically they're
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putting in a mode or not a mode per SE.
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They're making it so in Mythic Plus in LFG you have to vote to
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leave to to abandon the key. If the vote fails and you leave,
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and you do this repeatedly, you will be marked as a deserter.
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Which means when you're queuing up for dungeons, it will say
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frequently leaves Mythic Plus, which as Rao had pointed out, is
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basically a death sentence in DPS.
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Tanks and healers will probably be able to fight through it.
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If you're a DPS and you're queuing, you're queuing against
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20 million other people. And so if you have, like we've
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said this on the show, if there's anything about you that
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doesn't immediately say this is good, people are just gonna go
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with the other thousands of people who are queuing up
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against you. So it's gonna be really tough.
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There will be a way. They say that if you do multiple
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mythic plus without deserting and basically build yourself
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back up, you will lose that so you can take off the little
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thing that calls you a deserter. But it again, I'm curious how
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that's going to work, especially for people like TPS who we'll
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likely not be getting chances. I don't, I don't think it's said
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in the article whether or not there's this is time based.
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So like if you just don't play for a while, it drops off.
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But what what are you guys thinking?
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How do you guys feel about the the deserter?
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I love it, I love it. And if you're worried about it,
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it's probably for you. Yeah, it's we're they're never
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going to give us a number of X number of leaves.
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Early gives you the badge, but it you know that says just do
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dungeons and don't quit and then you get it'll the badge will
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fall off by doing that. So you can do dungeons with
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other quitters and eventually you do enough of them and you
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get your, your good graces back. There's abandoning dungeons is
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so brutal. Like you don't know if the
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person, unless we're talking plugs here, obviously, but you
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don't know if you're running a key with somebody who's just
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desperately trying to get their their vault finished.
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If it's there, you know, whatever it is.
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And if you're queuing for a key at a certain level, you can see
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before the key starts the party leader and all the people in the
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party, their item levels, their dungeon scores, all of that.
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You can see all of that. If you look at that and think,
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hey, this might go sideways, leave before the key goes in.
24:12
Like don't brick somebody's key because you expected a group of
24:17
five strangers who have never time to tend to be able to pull
24:20
off MDI polls or be able to, you know, do some some really tough
24:24
bots. Like be realistic.
24:27
You shouldn't be abandoning people's keys.
24:28
I like that you can have the vote to say we all agree this is
24:31
bricked. We're going to go.
24:33
But yeah, I think this is this is good for the game.
24:34
I am looking forward to never inviting anybody who has that
24:37
tag and. I do think it's important to
24:41
note that this is based on repeated leaving.
24:44
I think all of the panic I've seen about it is people who are
24:47
like but what if I'm in like 1 and this one person is refusing?
24:50
I'm like, no, then you leave or like.
24:52
If I disconnect, yeah. Yeah, like it's it's again, I
24:56
agree. I don't think they're gonna give
24:57
us a number. Some people have talked about
24:59
them giving you a warning of you're close to being kicked
25:02
off. I kinda feel like that also is
25:03
gonna make people just be jerks until they get the warning and
25:06
then wait for the warning to fall off and then be jerks
25:08
again. So I kinda don't want that, but
25:11
they this if if you're like, for example, I have talked in the
25:16
past about like the fact that I will leave keys if you're really
25:19
mean, right? Like if I really don't like you,
25:21
I will not frequently, But if you're like really, really mean
25:24
to me. Best of luck, besties that will
25:28
be protected. You don't have to stay with
25:29
somebody who's like griefing you.
25:31
You don't have to stay with somebody who's actively, you
25:33
know, ruining your day because they won't agree to to quit the
25:38
group. You can.
25:39
You can still leave keys on occasion.
25:42
You just can't leave keys frequently.
25:44
Yeah. Big fan.
25:47
Yeah. And I'm excited about the season
25:49
in general. So I didn't really play season
25:52
2. I in fact, I didn't really I
25:54
have done 0 keystones this entire season.
25:57
But I've heard it's really good. And it seems like it seems like
26:00
they're, they were saying that they are resetting things a lot
26:03
to try to keep them with season 2, which and they were even
26:06
saying in one of the interviews that they are.
26:08
I think it's the Wow cast actually that they are planning
26:11
on readjusting season 1 the the season 1 dungeons that came in
26:14
to make them more in line with season 2.
26:16
Which makes me very happy because famously Arakara is the
26:19
dungeon that made me quit Mythic.
26:21
Plus tanking and so seeing it pop back up was not my favorite
26:25
part of the day. Yeah, it's it's a great dungeon
26:29
pool with one exception, maybe 211 full exception and 1/2
26:36
exception. So for those who don't know, if
26:38
you're listening to this podcast, you probably already
26:40
know you don't listen to wild podcasts and not have consumed
26:42
this wild cast. But it's Ecodome Aldani, which
26:45
is a new dungeon on Koresh, Halls of Atonement, which is
26:48
returning from Shadow Lands season 1, which was a crowd
26:51
favorite and was somewhere in the middle of the pack for
26:54
difficulty. Then we have Tazewash, both
26:56
Streets of Wonder and Soleus Gambit.
26:59
Soleus Gambit was wildly loved, and Streets of Wonder was less
27:03
enjoyed. It was like more hit or miss.
27:05
People either really liked or really didn't like it.
27:07
And then we have Returning from War Within these.
27:10
These are ones we voted for as a community, and I could tell you
27:13
why three of them were voted for.
27:15
So we have Eric Harris, City of Echoes, Prior of the Sacred
27:17
Flame and Operation Floodgate and all you crazy people voted
27:21
for those because of the trinkets in them.
27:23
Sack brood, Priory of Sigma, the Priory Tomo lights devotion and
27:27
improves euphoria pacemaker. You're not fooling anyone.
27:29
We know why you voted for those dungeons.
27:32
Expect tuning. And then the last one that was
27:35
voted for was Dawnbreaker. And this is the one that's kind
27:37
of out to lunch. Here's the thing about
27:39
Dawnbreaker. It was the most timed key by
27:42
percentage in season. 187% of the Dawnbreakers that were
27:46
started were or sorry that were completed were timed.
27:50
But it was also the buggiest dungeon of the whole season.
27:53
You ground effects don't work on ships.
27:56
Sometimes the ships don't appear, you fly right through
27:58
the ships like it. It's mind boggling to me how
28:02
this got picked. I don't know anybody who was
28:05
like super fond of Dawnbreaker other than the fact that you
28:08
knew it was a pretty much a guaranteed timed key every every
28:11
time you went in. So maybe that's why I get voted
28:13
in. It's wild.
28:16
But Eric Cara as Alex, I hear you.
28:18
Eric Cara, you're like, I have, I have had so many Eric Cara
28:20
keys where we've gotten to the last boss with like 78910.
28:25
We had one, We had 12 minutes left.
28:26
We had the last boss with 12 minutes left and we still didn't
28:29
time those keys. That last boss is an absolute
28:31
casserole of nonsense between the waves.
28:34
And then the the dispelling, if your healer can even dispell,
28:38
you have to get stuck in the goo now.
28:39
You have to be able to knock yourself out of the goo.
28:41
Sometimes you can't get out of the goo.
28:42
Priests just can't do it themselves.
28:45
It's crazy town but y'all want that sack brood?
28:48
It was like. Brutal and you could do any kind
28:52
of impairment or CC on them by the time it rotated out.
28:57
Like stunts were there, knocks were there.
29:00
You could literally fear the inanimate goo.
29:03
Holy priests have one and it's not on cooldown enough times to
29:07
be able to get it every time. Got.
29:08
It. Well, best of luck to those of
29:13
you who love it and I'll, I'll, I'll probably play it again.
29:15
I, it was kind of sad to do 0 mythic plus.
29:18
Like I think I started this season and I was like, it's so
29:20
empowering that I realized I can say I don't enjoy this and I'm
29:23
not going to do it. And now I'm kind of like, I'm
29:25
not going to start now. I'm not going to do mythic plus
29:28
this late in the season, but like I could have done.
29:31
Some. So we will be, we'll be playing
29:34
a little probably knock on one. It looks like a good season.
29:37
What were you Manny? Are you excited you Manny?
29:38
Those of you don't know, Manny is a a recent key pusher.
29:42
He's he's dove into season 2. He's he if he's not at 3K, he's
29:48
very close to 3K. What are you looking at?
29:51
How are you looking forward to Season 3?
29:56
So because we're not doing any changes, it seems like it's
29:59
going to be off to the races. Part of the reason that like I
30:04
haven't been pushing a lot of the War Within in season 1 and
30:08
it took me so long to get into it for season 2 was because I
30:12
wasn't running with a static group, I was pugging.
30:14
I've been pugging since like end of shadow lands and in dragon
30:21
fight pugging didn't seem that bad with like the changes that
30:25
they made for the war Within and the way season one hit pugging
30:30
has been just brutal, absolutely brutal.
30:33
And so now that I'm back with the static group, we run once a
30:37
week, we do that, we push pretty, pretty well.
30:41
And that was fun. And I guess next season, who
30:45
cares? I could just use the one button
30:46
rotation and watch a movie while I'm AFK.
30:51
So or you know, I'll get Ria to do it for me anyways.
30:55
I'll get my ranking up. I'm not not actually going to do
31:00
that guys. You're not supposed to share
31:02
your account. Yeah, that's what's going to
31:05
hold you back from that. That's what's going to hold me
31:08
back anyways. So we like, I'm really more
31:19
excited to see the new dungeon and to see what changes they're
31:24
going to make from like in the tasovest parts, because I want
31:28
to see how that that like new philosophy translates over.
31:32
I am less excited to see Floodgate come back like I've
31:38
been doing Floodgate this season.
31:40
I I I'd like it to switch up likely floodgates going to come
31:43
back if they do any kind of bonus season where they're like,
31:47
hey, all those those were within.
31:49
Now they're all active. So like, do I want three
31:53
straight seasons of floodgate? No, I really, I really don't.
31:57
I think they should have like vetoed that and maybe vetoed any
32:05
of the dungeons that were in season 2.
32:07
But it could also be that they're like saying, yeah, we're
32:11
not doing a Season 4, so pick the ones you want back because
32:14
you're not going to. They're never going to be
32:15
relevant again. I don't think there will be a
32:18
season 4. Could be like I could, I'm not,
32:22
I don't have a strong position in it.
32:24
It could go either way. I think they could do a very
32:26
abbreviated season 4 just to be like, hey, we do want to give
32:29
you some stuff to switch up. So guess what, we're elevating
32:33
the the item level for all the raids and giving a relative
32:40
difficulty there. It's going to have these changes
32:44
that we've we've discussed that's going to be in midnight
32:47
and so you get to we get data from that there and it just uses
32:50
the live PTR with like the defensives claw back that they
32:56
wanted to do. And here's how these bosses
32:59
would look like that. Hey, we're shutting down some
33:04
stuff from the API. Maybe these bosses that were
33:08
absolute trash fired as before with these adjustments.
33:11
Can people do this? And if you don't like it, who
33:14
cares? You don't have to touch Open X
33:16
Screw that boss anyways, right? Be a good, good opportunity for
33:20
them. So I'm not going to put it past
33:21
them. Yeah, I just, I think midnight
33:26
lands in February and I think 11.2 lands in August, and that's
33:31
six months. And the patch will only be 6
33:33
months. They're not going to shorten it.
33:35
And I can't see midnight coming later than February, personally.
33:38
What's your pre patch hit for midnight?
33:41
It will be January. OK, I don't see it the pre patch
33:48
in January, but it's close enough anyways.
33:51
But that'll be a discussion for another episode.
33:55
I think that one thing that I have really been looking forward
34:02
to is for them to do the adjustments because we have seen
34:07
for classes, because we have seen like them being very
34:10
aggressive with this, with this to like make things hit.
34:14
So when I saw that like hunters and blood, not blood decays, but
34:20
decays in general, we're getting getting some adjustments.
34:25
That was exciting. I actually was expecting them to
34:29
come for demon hunters. They didn't they they data mined
34:33
some stuff for demon hunters and it's mostly nothing.
34:37
I think it's actually mostly like mild increases but like 2
34:41
like and I think. One of them was a wording.
34:43
Change like there's very little that was data mined to change
34:46
demon hunters. Well, if you're going from
34:48
season 2 to season 3 with them being relatively happy with how
34:52
this, how these changes to the stops and the and the interrupts
34:57
panned out. And I know that that is not a
34:59
popular answer for some people, right?
35:02
You kind of have to address some of these meta classes to like
35:07
either bring other things up or like just with demon hunters in
35:13
general, like the amount of stops that they're bringing that
35:17
they're like one man armies in that regard.
35:20
I was expecting to see that just bold in highlights on the PTR
35:25
notes being like you don't get that anymore friends.
35:29
But many they want to bring up and like build the hype for
35:31
demon hunters because then when they add the third spec,
35:33
everyone will be playing them and they'll be able to easily
35:35
move the people into the new third void spec.
35:38
They didn't do that with Vokers like everyone.
35:42
Was already playing a Voker. I feel like half the world was
35:44
green. Pres Pres.
35:47
In vault was not super hype. Interesting.
35:53
Pres Preservation and Vault. It was mandatory for Razigath.
35:56
What's it I thought? I thought it was teens.
35:58
Are running like 4. So it was when it went into.
36:03
Because priests couldn't stay on the platform on their own, they
36:05
needed their own dedicated evoker to keep them on the
36:08
platform. OK.
36:09
And then, yeah, so it was in. Was it in 10.1?
36:15
In Aberyst, Aberyst gave us augmentation.
36:19
Yeah. Was an augmentation 10.1 or was
36:21
it 10.2? It was no.
36:25
It was 10 point 1.5. 10 point 1.5 so then in in aberyst.
36:33
Yeah. Were was prez strong?
36:36
I forgot, I thought that prez wasn't strong just before.
36:40
Augment I can't remember, but Preservation and devastation of
36:43
both always been decent. Like there's no well since they
36:46
came in. This is like last year I think I
36:49
guess. And maybe this year would be the
36:50
first time when you would say Preservation had fallen off.
36:53
But when they first came out, they were very, very well
36:55
represented. Yeah, all the devs.
36:59
All the devs swapped over to Ogg though.
37:03
And now Ogg's in a bad. Place dude I just have this
37:06
image of Demon Hunter like arranged Demon Hunter class who
37:09
like works through sigils and stuff and like different throw
37:12
glave mechanics and I'm in for it lets them in.
37:15
They can't change vengeance Demon Hunter without completely
37:19
gutting it. It's strong because of the
37:22
number of sigils it has. You, like you literally have to
37:25
remove their sigils. Can I just put it on a choice
37:27
round? Take.
37:29
One or the other. You would then you would never
37:32
take misery. You would only ever take
37:33
silence. Sure.
37:34
So. So you would essentially just be
37:35
deleting Sigil of Misery from from them.
37:39
I don't think that I don't think that's the worst thing in this
37:41
this situation either that you're, you're literally going
37:46
to make them weaker in a other place to overcompensate from
37:49
them being strong in in this place.
37:51
Just revert your horrible changes on AOE stops because it
37:55
doesn't change. You can change demon remember it
37:57
doesn't change the strength of solar flame or solar beam from
37:59
boom kins, doesn't change the strength of stuns, interrupts
38:03
and knock UPS from shamans. It doesn't like these classes
38:06
that are strong now. Definitely these classes that
38:08
are strong now are still going to be strong for the same
38:10
reasons are strong now. Like you have to literally strip
38:13
away utility from these classes. It's it's it was a bad change.
38:17
They need to revert the change. Do you have any opinions on
38:20
making the other tanks stronger? Like just making tank kind of a
38:24
utility class in general. It's you would literally need to
38:27
give them all multiple AOE stops.
38:33
I mean, Proud Wire has a decent amount, it's got shockwave, it's
38:36
got disrupting shout. That's really it.
38:39
It's got a few individual stunts, I don't think.
38:44
I don't think that's the answer. I think that is a far more
38:47
difficult task than it is just to say, hey, interrupts and AOE
38:51
interrupts and stuns stop a cast.
38:53
They don't recast it after like it worked for 20 years.
38:58
Not 20 years stops became interrupts in like BFA.
39:03
Yeah. 20 years ago in the lore. Lore.
39:07
Years. OK, I apologize.
39:10
You got the Thanos snap of shadow lands.
39:14
The other part about the other part about tanks that was
39:20
mentioned, which again, going to Lexus like was this fast def
39:24
thing was that they they started talking about threat.
39:27
They started talking about how they want threat to like be a
39:32
thing more at the start where you're like, you know, let the
39:36
tank pull, let the tank gain threat and less of a thing when
39:41
it's like later on where something like, Oh, I've got,
39:44
I've got some cooldowns and sorry, tank.
39:46
And definitely not a thing where there's a slight difference in
39:51
item level between your tank and your Co tank.
39:53
And now the fight is way harder which just really go back to
39:58
last episode guys Cuz I think we covered all the bases on this.
40:03
If you want to answer these questions that you so
40:05
desperately obviously want to give answers to, just come on
40:08
the show. We can cut out this middle man
40:13
didn't. You talk to the devs just this
40:15
week. Sorry.
40:17
Last week, Sir. No, I didn't.
40:22
No, I wish. Yeah.
40:24
I mean, they, they, they came out today between the interviews
40:27
and the Wildcats saying all the right things, which fool me
40:33
once, shame on me, woo me twice, you better not fool me again.
40:38
It's. That is going to become the
40:41
same. That is, that is going to become
40:44
the same. That is going to become the same
40:47
we. Can't please.
40:50
Dude, I love it. It is.
40:53
It is. It's like right up there with
40:54
like the customers always right. Like it's just, it's just, it's
40:58
going to become the same. Yeah, yeah.
41:02
Yeah, but a lot of a lot of other class changes too.
41:04
Death Knights. If you're a Death Knight fan and
41:06
you spent this season miserable playing the RNG spam fest that
41:10
is San Leian that's getting changed up, they're changing the
41:14
way Frost works. Pull one out for all the Evokers
41:18
who have to watch Death Frost Death Knights get a movable
41:22
empowered cast before they get one.
41:26
That amuses me to no end. Yeah, a lot of changes.
41:29
I'm excited the PTR is up right now so we can jump on but I
41:32
still have 11. This is like the we went from
41:35
nothing to do in the game to it's like I have 11 point 1.7.
41:39
I'm in strong guard right now doing that quest chain.
41:41
I'm loving it. I have to go and do the lore
41:45
walking. I'll probably never go into
41:47
another delve again because that was the worst experience I've
41:49
ever had today and then put the PTR.
41:53
I don't want to I can't. I was streaming it and I got
41:57
angry and on stream they were like, make sure you ask man.
42:01
Get Manny to ask you about the Delves and the overcharged
42:04
Delves. Sean, honey, can I you can you
42:07
can do the overcharged delves on one.
42:09
Yeah, I got you can just. Go through.
42:13
I tackled the delves at an 11 because I am a mediocre man on
42:17
the Internet and I refused to listen to people who told me
42:20
that I would enjoy it much more on ones and I was like these are
42:23
going to be great in elevens but the issue wasn't the difficulty.
42:25
Tell me more the issue I guess we're talking about delves.
42:28
The issue was before I before I get angry.
42:31
Now to all the listeners, I'm about to get very negative and
42:34
very incoherent. So just be aware of that.
42:37
But in the in the overcharged elves Krieg walls rest to be
42:41
exact, there's these candles, candles you have to put out and
42:44
there's a little purple elemental that floats out from
42:47
the candle and if he touches you, it stuns you.
42:51
Except it's not. If he touches you there's no
42:54
circle around him he has. If you target him there's no
42:56
circle, no no indicator and he hits you from like 15 yards
43:01
away. But not every time.
43:03
Sometime it's 10 yards away. Sometimes you could run right up
43:06
to him and not get stunned. There is nothing to indicate
43:09
when this done happens or why it's triggering and it is the
43:12
worst feeling ever. I don't understand how people
43:15
enjoy tells. I actually didn't go as anchors
43:19
as I thought I was going to. I was really angry on the
43:21
stream. Yeah, I know there's a lot to do
43:24
right now. And then the PTR.
43:27
Yeah, with the overcharged elves, I am going to spend
43:34
probably a good portion of my next bit of free time just like
43:40
completing the tree. So that from then going forward
43:45
my process will be, did I upgrade my belt this week?
43:49
Great, not going to touch him again.
43:53
I did it on 11th to get through the opening quest.
43:57
I did it on yesterday so I didn't have to deal with like
44:01
that nonsense that you're dealing with in Kriegvall.
44:03
Sorry to hear that. It's like there's new enemies,
44:09
there's new objectives. I, I decided to play it on play
44:17
it as elemental because I'm switching over to elemental so I
44:20
can test out that one button thing.
44:21
And then I jumped out, jumped over to another thing to test,
44:26
test 1 button. So now at this point I've done
44:29
that or sorry, the single button rotation they're calling it.
44:32
I've done that on like 6 or 7 different characters just to get
44:37
a feel for it, but I don't. I like maybe it was the one
44:45
button that just made it feel so mindless.
44:50
I'm not. I'm not sure what what what
44:52
delves are supposed to bring to the table at this point.
44:58
OK, So what are Dell supposed to bring to the table at this
45:00
point? Let's get some some good.
45:02
Oh, at this point it's you, you put it in a one and you go in
45:05
and you feel like a God and you like do it in, you do it in 10
45:09
minutes or five, I think. I think I actually did my one in
45:12
five. It was very fun.
45:14
And you get your thing and you move on with your life because
45:18
it's 11 point 1.7 and you got AOTC last week.
45:22
And so at this point, you're just trying to upgrade your belt
45:23
so that in 11.2, when it's still as strong as it will ever be,
45:28
seriously Circle, it is still on my finger.
45:31
You don't have to. You got that one done.
45:35
I mean, like in general, I still do really like the fact that I
45:38
can log in for 15 minutes, do content that gets me gear, not
45:45
worry about where my friends are on, not worry about pugging
45:47
anything, not worry about like, oh, I, you know, do I wanna
45:51
build a group that's gonna move super quickly.
45:53
I need to just knock this out or I'm really not feeling like
45:56
pushing. I just wanna vibe.
45:58
And I mean nothing has meaning right now.
46:01
It's 11 point 1.7. The the right now things are
46:04
being being either thrown. It's like things are being
46:06
thrown at us because if you don't have goals done, you have
46:09
a limited amount of time, which is super valid.
46:10
To be fair. I want to be really, really
46:11
clear. I feel like that came out really
46:13
meanly. My team almost didn't get AOTC
46:14
before 11 point 1.7. Like we were having serious
46:16
conversations about like, what are we going to do?
46:19
I guess we'll wait for belts and that'll be great.
46:20
So I, I don't mean that like if you are like, wait, no, Lex, I
46:23
really do benefit. Like I, I really do need to do 7
46:26
at 11 point 1.7. I have a lot to do.
46:27
Like I'm not trying to be like mean or dismissive or
46:30
condescending, like great, sick. Then it's perfect.
46:32
You have what you need. They're giving you the thing so
46:34
that you can get everything done before the end of the tier.
46:36
But right now I think it's, you know, play for you.
46:38
It's going to be 11 point too soon.
46:40
And then we got work to do. But right now, by and large,
46:44
it's time to do your lore walking and do your strong guard
46:47
and get your belt all cute and do your doves at once.
46:49
Do your doves at 11. If you want to do them at 11:00,
46:51
I'm going to do mine at 1:00. Hey, sounds like delves are good
46:58
because you get rewards without effort, which like there's a lot
47:04
of things that you could do that are rewards without effort.
47:09
And I don't think that like is feels, feels like you just gave
47:14
the biggest damnation of delves where it's like, I'm enjoying
47:17
delves because I get I don't have to deal with them after 5
47:20
minutes. And it's like, oh, OK.
47:23
I like when she said F them casuals and then doubled back
47:30
and she's like, I didn't mean like F all them casuals.
47:33
If you're a casual that's great, but.
47:38
No, so OK, let me let me try to maybe.
47:40
So to me, this part of the season is the time that like you
47:45
worked hard, you did the push, you did the stress, you did the
47:47
fuss, you tried really hard. It's now time to play the video
47:51
game for the sake of playing a video game, which is fun.
47:53
Not that I wasn't having fun before.
47:55
It's fun to push hard and and work hard and do hard things,
47:57
but sometimes also fun to go in and burn everything down with
48:00
one eye beam and run and pull another entire room and burn
48:03
that all down with your metamorphosis and be like wow I
48:05
wasted meta. And then move on with your life
48:07
and burn everything down. You can get to a room really
48:09
fast. I think that they're doing what
48:12
I want them to do right now, which is give me a fun little
48:14
mindless thing to do so I get an excuse to keep playing the video
48:17
game now that I have AOTC and don't really have anything else
48:21
I want. Which is exactly what I want in
48:23
a .7 patch or point 1.7 patch, but you guys know what I mean.
48:26
I'm .7 I want. X .7 Yeah, that makes sense.
48:30
You guys wanna do some time walking together?
48:31
I love time walking and we're in turbulent tabways right now.
48:34
I've already got my mount. I did it all the time walking,
48:36
now you. You exploited the bug.
48:38
As they say on this show, exploit like Sean, fast exploit
48:42
like Sean, and if you don't get caught.
48:44
Does not say that that is not a thing, Sean says.
48:47
Especially could have swore that was like the Sean saying.
48:49
No, no, no. Sean would never endorse
48:51
exploiting of any kinds. Congrats on your mount.
48:55
I'm sure I'm going to have to like they'll tear it back and
48:57
I'll have to do it again. But I, I was doing it because I
49:00
wanted to level some malts and I wanted to get enough to buy the
49:04
mounts and then I just so happened to get them out.
49:06
I'm like, oh, they didn't program this.
49:09
They didn't program this correctly.
49:11
I adore you Manny and I consider you a very good friend and I
49:16
think you're full of shit. I think you saw that it was
49:19
bugged and you said I should probably run 8 more of it.
49:23
Nope. I gotta get this mountain number
49:25
to go up. Nope, you know what do you know
49:27
which do you know which character was the last one to
49:31
that caused me to get it was my hunter 'cause I'm trying to do
49:37
the loyalist Sylvanus the the sorry, the shadow lands Sylvanus
49:47
extra thing and the heritage armor and then be a oh crap
49:55
what? What's the hero talent where
49:58
you're like, basically Silvanus? Oh, dark Ranger.
50:00
Dark Ranger yeah. And so it's like, Oh my
50:03
goodness, why didn't I do do it with this?
50:05
And then yeah, I got that. I'm so so I'm still going to do
50:08
do more, but like I. Storage story checks out.
50:12
But the reason, but that goes into the reason that I'm liking
50:16
11 point 1.7 is because of the story.
50:21
Like I loved the the Danis slash Guerra stuff and now I finally
50:31
know how to say her name. But where's the voice acting
50:36
guys? She doesn't have any voice
50:40
acting. Again, another character.
50:43
Was she on strike? I guess the strike's not
50:45
officially over. They were supposed to vote on it
50:49
last week and I didn't check after the episode and but like.
50:55
Lex is checking now because the sun well is just ignited in the
50:57
office. I don't know how.
50:59
To spell her name. So I'm getting results about
51:02
Guyana, the country. We really do need to make this a
51:05
video show again because Lex is like.
51:07
The beacons are lit. And then she turns on her
51:10
computer and it's like that. It's like the Paladin
51:12
contemplation spell where it's just a beam of light.
51:17
Listen I I I love my Co hosts. They are both different shades
51:22
of milk but but Lex ghost ghostly when her screen turns on
51:29
it's. It's just blank diving Lex's
51:31
face. Oh well, I was doing this way
51:36
too completely. I don't OK you guys, I'm not
51:38
going to figure out how to spell her name between now and.
51:42
When that's OK, I do think that we should talk about the phase
51:47
diving. I know we kind of jumped it back
51:49
there, but that was a good segue as I'm going to get and I'm
51:56
interested in it because it's sort of like a way of creating 2
52:02
overworld maps in the same area where.
52:06
Like you could double your content without having to double
52:08
your work. Pretty much like it.
52:14
It's, it's a way of them being like, like the way that I see
52:19
it, it's sort of like where you have those bronze Dragons that
52:23
are like, do you want to see how the world was before?
52:26
And then you go back And so like the world, the world changes.
52:29
You're like, oh, right. This entire place didn't used to
52:32
be burned down. There was like actual stuff
52:34
here. And if they use it in a similar
52:36
way, I think it's a great way of of showing that sort of that
52:42
sort of past and like making that world and the lore a little
52:46
bit deeper without them having to just do it as scenarios.
52:51
I'm hoping that it is something like that because the area that
52:57
we're going to be going into again, it is the leftover
53:01
scraps, devastation after dementias devoured the world's
53:10
soul and destroyed that destroyed that planet.
53:13
Even in after all this time where they have these biodomes,
53:18
another call back to the Burning Crusade.
53:24
Those zones aren't going to be with the original life that's
53:29
been like maintained and preserved.
53:32
We're actually going to go out and like get life that can be
53:35
compatible for the for these biomes.
53:38
I think that's a really cool way of doing it because it's a great
53:41
way of like sending you out into all the old, old expansions and
53:45
be like go get some bees from storm song, go get like Raptors
53:50
from Zelda Tsar go get or on girl crater and and that sort of
53:54
stuff. I think that that is cool in
53:57
that way. And I, and I'm hoping that this
54:02
is going to be something that people do kind of like, instead
54:06
of it being the half Hill Farm, this is going to be the Koresh
54:10
Zoo. We're going to make our own
54:12
little zoo and attractions. And maybe you got to feed them
54:16
and you're like, oh crap, we didn't get the natural predators
54:19
of the bees and now the bees are taking over.
54:22
I think this could be really cute.
54:23
I think this could be a lot of fun.
54:24
And I so I am looking forward to to that.
54:28
Then 10 dogs of World of Warcraft.
54:31
No, there you. Go no, I'm I'm really excited.
54:34
I Burning Crusade and this sort of the Nexus, whatever that gets
54:41
me right in my nostalgia. Like when I see the ethereals
54:45
and I see the biodomes and everything, I feel like I'm back
54:47
in like, you know, my family living room playing the game,
54:52
the time that I'm allowed to play set on the top and like the
54:55
experience in the magic of World of Warcraft as a child.
54:58
So I'm really excited. I will say I feel like I'm being
55:02
a hater more than I usually am on this podcast.
55:04
So forgive me, I'm being a little bit of a hater again.
55:06
I I'm not excited about the like the way that it makes your
55:10
screen all like purple and blue. I'm like preemptively getting a
55:13
headache. But it's OK, We'll have fun and
55:15
I'll get over it. I'm sorry.
55:18
Don't get over it, don't get over it.
55:20
Get on the PTR test it gives you a headache.
55:22
Tell them to change it before it becomes live and harder to
55:25
change Right. I've had people who are saying
55:29
like, oh, this is going to be horrible for color, color blind.
55:32
There has been accessibility for color blindness in the game for
55:37
a while. But again, get on to the PTR, be
55:41
like, I was looking at this and it was pink on purple on mauve
55:45
and I didn't know what move was before this.
55:48
Why did you make me look up the color mauve?
55:50
Blizzard changed this, right? Like I think what we're seeing
55:55
with the World War Within is that these PTR cycles have been
55:58
quite quick. So that means you have to get on
56:02
quickly to get them to make the changes.
56:05
There have been stuff that that people have loved.
56:08
There's been stuff that people have hated.
56:10
I know a guy who was like, I'm never going to touch the race
56:14
cars and undermine and every day just goes around slow, slow,
56:19
mount on on them. If we can get the feedback,
56:22
maybe more people can can enjoy this.
56:25
There was feedback on that and there was people who had motion
56:29
sickness and they made some adjustments on that.
56:32
This is this could be a similar thing.
56:37
Maybe you do the rate testing and there are bosses that that
56:42
are like horrible, that are like overnecks, bunk, junker,
56:48
whatever. If this is the time to be like
56:51
this boss is not humanly possible, Don't make me turn to
56:55
weak or wizard and we've got a new dungeon.
57:04
I I we already talked about like the how the story might not be
57:08
much and whatever, but like hopefully the mechanics are
57:12
good. And so like I just say, jump in
57:15
play, play around with that. Obviously we'll be talking more
57:18
more about that, but get in there because otherwise you're
57:24
going to end up with a tear set that has like a clear design
57:29
issue that come on Blizzard, you've done this 20 times.
57:32
I'm going to suggest instead of having it on the totem, have it
57:37
at player. The totem moves every six
57:40
seconds. The player always moves.
57:42
Why the hell are you going to do a bonus that can be screwed by
57:47
your tank because they don't following your shit?
57:50
Is that the? Is that the tears set right now?
57:52
That is the tears set come on, and they've made this mistake a
57:55
million times. Also, nobody plays fucking Fire
57:58
Nova. Blizzard becoming incoherent.
58:00
You mean you're nobody? Nobody plays fire Nova and
58:04
people hate when you force people to play particular
58:10
talents. Maybe you don't do that in the
58:13
in the hero tree as well, which is also the other tier set
58:16
bonus. That's OK.
58:17
It's not on the spec that I'll be playing next season, but
58:20
still, I'm going to tell them they're wrong.
58:21
Now Steph is just putting in little Easter eggs for you,
58:23
Manny, because they want to hang out with you and they want to
58:25
hear your voice. And so they're like, hey, if we
58:27
put it on the totem, if we put the set button bones on the
58:29
totem, Manny's going to be on the PTR and he's going to give
58:31
us, he's going to give us all the feedback and they're just
58:33
excited and they want to hang out with you.
58:36
Yeah, no, I don't think doves like me, but if you like us, you
58:39
can join us in the discord that's bit dot LY slash faz
58:44
discord. We can have all these
58:47
conversations about like what's wrong with your tear set or why
58:51
you love Dells because they're the quickest way to get out of
58:54
the game and never talk to anybody or whatever is on your
58:57
mind. But until next time guys, may
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all your hits be quits.