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James Roguski on The Geoengineering Psyop | Jerm Warfare · UK Column Radio

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Speaker 1: My name is Jim. This is Jim Wolfe the Battle
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Speaker 3: I welcome the opportunity, the.
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Speaker 2: Core information, and really you should know that Project in
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Speaker 2: in Humanity dot com. I'm not going to tease it
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Speaker 2: to the end. I'm sorry, I can't do that. I'm
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Speaker 2: going to dive right in and just just be bold
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Speaker 2: and blunt. Okay, if people listening to this have ever
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Speaker 2: looked up in the sky and they see white lines
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Speaker 2: behind airplanes. If they see those white lines spreading out
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Speaker 2: into what ultimately becomes a hate cloud cover, that is
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Speaker 2: not something being sprayed on you. That is not airplanes
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Speaker 2: with tanks of nanoparticulate matter coming through pumps and pipes
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Speaker 2: and hoses and spray jets and all that kind of thing.
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Speaker 2: But what you see is barely five percent of the problem.
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Speaker 2: Because ninety five percent of what you could call I
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Speaker 2: will not use the term camtrail, I will not use
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Speaker 2: the term contrail. There are trails of chemicals that are
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Speaker 2: spewing out of every airplane, every helicopter, every jet aircraft.
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Speaker 3: And here's the part that people need to pay attention to.
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Speaker 2: Every rocket, every missile, and every piece of space junk,
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Speaker 2: satellites and garbage up in space that is re entering
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Speaker 2: into the atmosphere.
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Speaker 3: It's basically pollution. And there is in my mind a.
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Speaker 2: Probably not coordinated in the physical world, maybe in the
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Speaker 2: mental space, but there is a false flag that is
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Speaker 2: being perpetrated upon the population to get people to look
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Speaker 2: at a mysterious you know, oh, they're spraying us concept,
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Speaker 2: when the reality is all of that can be very
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Speaker 2: easily explained in very simple and straightforward ways, and that's
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Speaker 2: what I've done on Project in Humanity dot com.
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Speaker 1: Now, yeah, I just want to make sure that I'm
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Speaker 1: following you before we go any further. So what you're
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Speaker 1: saying is it's an accidental kind of guringing right where
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Speaker 1: you have sort of massive environmental damage has been caused
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Speaker 1: by routine aviation and of course rocket operations. And this
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Speaker 1: is not about secret spraying programs or even deliberate spraying programs.
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Speaker 1: It's about a legal pollution. Is that right?
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Speaker 2: With a tiny, tiny, tiny little caveat Okay, I am
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Speaker 2: absolutely not denying that the possibility of you know, covert
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Speaker 2: nef areas. You know, certainly the government has sprayed crap
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Speaker 2: on the population in the past, and there is every possibility,
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Speaker 2: you know, that things like that are happening. But in general,
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Speaker 2: what you said, yes, I'm just gonna say it again.
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Speaker 2: There are approximately one hundred thousand flights a day in
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Speaker 2: commercial aviation times three hundred and sixty five days, you know,
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Speaker 2: it's millions of flights. There is approximately one hundred billion
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Speaker 2: gallons of jet fuel that is combusted in those you know,
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Speaker 2: aluminum cylinders in the sky when you look up in
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Speaker 2: the sky and you see a white trail that then
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Speaker 2: you know, fans out or whatever. You got to let
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Speaker 2: go of the propaganda terminology of contrail versus chem trail.
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Speaker 1: It's a false I caught to me.
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Speaker 2: Absolutely, you know the whole deal. There's a narrative and
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Speaker 2: there's a false narrative. They're both the accepted narrative and
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Speaker 2: they hide the truth. So the lie when people say
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Speaker 2: there is a con trail, Oh, it's just water vayvapor.
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Speaker 3: No, it's not just water vapor.
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Speaker 2: If you could imagine, they'll see people don't get a
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Speaker 2: chance to do this. If you could imagine an air bus,
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Speaker 2: you know, a three eighty and the engine that's behind
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Speaker 2: you can't get anywhere near that because if you got
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Speaker 2: sucked into it or you got you know, it'll blow
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Speaker 2: you know, cars and trucks behind it, you know, off
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Speaker 2: there standing and just you know, destroy anything behind it.
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Speaker 2: The power behind these engines and the amount of air
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Speaker 2: and fuel that they push out is absolutely astonishing. They
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Speaker 2: burn easily a gallon of jet fuel every second. And
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Speaker 2: so when people talk about a con trail now it's
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Speaker 2: usually the government, okay, saying, oh, you know, these are
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Speaker 2: not nefarious spraying things. That's just water vapor. Well, that's
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Speaker 2: just water vapor, my butt. That's water vapor that is
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Speaker 2: mixed with enormous amounts of combusted jet fuel. And so
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Speaker 2: the use of the term contrail. If I ever hear
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Speaker 2: anybody say the word contrail, I know immediately to go, hey,
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Speaker 2: wait a minute, you're using language that is propaganda. Okay,
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Speaker 2: when somebody says, oh, look up in the sky, they're
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Speaker 2: spraying chemtrails on us, that's a different kind of propaganda. Yes,
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Speaker 2: it is a trail of chemicals, but it's not being sprayed.
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Speaker 2: It's being spewed out of that jet engine. But here's
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Speaker 2: the thing that when this wakes you up and you
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Speaker 2: get this, it's astonishing.
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Speaker 3: Now.
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Speaker 2: The reason why sometimes you see those white lines in
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Speaker 2: the sky and sometimes you don't is atmospheric. In the
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Speaker 2: upper atmosphere, or I should say yeh, per troposphere.
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Speaker 3: There are layers of air. Some of it is colder,
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Speaker 3: some of it is more humid. And the best statistics I.
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Speaker 2: Can find are about five percent of the miles flown
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Speaker 2: by all aviation go through these cold, relatively moist areas
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Speaker 2: called ice supersaturated regions. And when a jet aircraft flies
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Speaker 2: through a limited area of the atmosphere and spews out
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Speaker 2: all of the combustible materials from the jet fuel, mother
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Speaker 2: nature does us a favor and causes ice crystals to
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Speaker 2: condense on the particulate matter that is coming out of
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Speaker 2: the jet engine, and you see the ice reflecting the sunlight.
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Speaker 2: Ninety five percent of the time the plane flies through
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Speaker 2: the sky and you don't see the pollution coming out
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Speaker 2: behind the engine. And so when you look up and
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Speaker 2: there's a blue sky day, that is not a no
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Speaker 2: spray day. The pollution is coming out of that jet
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Speaker 2: engine just the same as it did on a day
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Speaker 2: when it flew through different atmospheric conditions, and you got
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Speaker 2: the opportunity to see it. And so that's only one
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Speaker 2: piece of the puzzle, if I can, unless you have
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Speaker 2: another question, I'm going to rewind my life about a
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Speaker 2: dozen years and share the Eureka moment that I had
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Speaker 2: quite some time ago.
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Speaker 1: So you've got huge amounts of pollution occurring in the sky,
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Speaker 1: unbelievable amounts, and it's not it's not just water vapor,
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Speaker 1: as the official government argument might be, and it's not
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Speaker 1: deliberately designed mind to kill everybody underneath it? Can I
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Speaker 1: just read some of the daughter points that you've mentioned. Yes,
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Speaker 1: so you say three hundred and fifty siptillion pieces, Now,
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Speaker 1: ikon wrapman around what that number even means. But three
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Speaker 1: hundred and fifty siptillion pieces of particulate matter.
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Speaker 3: Let let's linger on that one. I know there's a
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Speaker 3: big list.
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Speaker 2: Okay, let's go down through the list. And when we
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Speaker 2: get to the point on the list where I was
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Speaker 2: going to tell the.
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Speaker 3: Story that I was about to tell, I'll tell it that.
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Speaker 2: Here in the United States, you know, we're aware we're
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Speaker 2: pushing forty trillion dollars in our national debt, and people
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Speaker 2: can't wrap their head around that. If you go up
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Speaker 2: from there, after trillion comes quadrillion, then quint tillion, then
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Speaker 2: sex tillion, then sept tillion. Okay, it's incomprehensible. Aceptillion is
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Speaker 2: a trillion trillion. Now to put it into context. Now
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Speaker 2: I didn't make that number up three hundred and fifty septillion,
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Speaker 2: so you could say three hundred and fifty trillion trillion, right,
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Speaker 2: you still can't comprehend. It's an incomprehensible numbers. It's in
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Speaker 2: the same order of magnitude as the estimated number of
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Speaker 2: stars in the known universe. Okay, and so what that
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Speaker 2: number is. It came from a study from a couple
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Speaker 2: of years ago where they were, you know, with laser technology.
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Speaker 2: They put an airbus engine, you know, in a laboratory,
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Speaker 2: and I don't know.
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Speaker 3: How they do this, but they claimed that they.
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Speaker 2: Counted the number of micro particles that were coming out
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Speaker 2: of the engine, and they determined that there was one
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Speaker 2: hundred quadrillion particles per second. Imagine an enormous engine, a
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Speaker 2: gallon of jet fuel every second being vaporized and atomized. Well,
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Speaker 2: a lot of it doesn't burn, and what you end
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Speaker 2: up with are carbon particles that come out. That is
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Speaker 2: the biggest weather modification cloud seating operation you could ever
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Speaker 2: possibly imagine in your life, flying through the air millions
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Speaker 2: of miles, you know, millions of flights, billions of gallons
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Speaker 2: of jet fuel being turned into cloud seeds. Okay, three
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Speaker 2: hundred and fifty septilian. It's an incomprehensible number. And I'll
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Speaker 2: let you go down the list with whatever you're looking at.
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Speaker 1: There, twenty seven point two million pounds of carbon bay
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Speaker 1: graphene like particles.
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Speaker 2: They've studied the exhaust that is coming from the combustion.
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Speaker 2: You know, I mean if you've ever had to take
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Speaker 2: your automobile for a small test, okay, you know they
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Speaker 2: hook it up to a pipe and they see what's
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Speaker 2: coming out, and you know, if you're polluting, you know,
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Speaker 2: they tell you go get your cartoon up or whatever. Well,
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Speaker 2: you know, they've done that with jet engines. And what
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Speaker 2: they've identified is that after the combustion happens in the
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Speaker 2: jet engine, if you go about fifteen meters down the
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Speaker 2: trail behind the engine, chemistry is still happening in what
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Speaker 2: is kind of almost you can think of it as
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Speaker 2: a plasma, right, you know, that hot you know, gas
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Speaker 2: coming out of the jet engine continues to have chemical
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Speaker 2: reactions happening, and fifteen meters out of the exhaust, they
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Speaker 2: have identified that the soot particles start to coagulate together
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Speaker 2: into onion shaped grafphene. Now people talk about grafphine, they
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Speaker 2: talk about graffhine oxide, they talk about graphene nanoparticles and all.
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Speaker 3: That sort of stuff.
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Speaker 2: If you get into the chemistry, and I'm going to
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Speaker 2: maybe jump down the list a little bit, have you
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Speaker 2: this is going to sound like I'm going off on
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Speaker 2: a tangent, But go with me here. Have you ever
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Speaker 2: come across, used, or known anybody who used mothballs.
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Speaker 3: For what?
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Speaker 2: People put mothballs in their yeah, clothing, you know, because
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Speaker 2: it's it's a neurotoxin. It kills moths, it kills their larva.
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Speaker 2: You know, if you have a.
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Speaker 1: Moth hang on, James, I need my grandpurents ever used mothballs?
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Speaker 3: If you have a.
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Speaker 2: Wool suit or you know, clothing of coat or something
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Speaker 2: and a mo lands on it and drops its eggs,
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Speaker 2: the larvae will eat the wool, okay, and so many
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Speaker 2: people will pack their you know, relatively expensive clothing in mothballs.
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Speaker 2: I think it's horrible and disgusting and dangerous and nasty.
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Speaker 3: But you know that's the thing.
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Speaker 2: Well, mothballs are a neurotoxic Okay. They're made from a
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Speaker 2: compound called naphthalene. Naphthaline has got basically two benzene rings
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Speaker 2: stuck together, and it's horribly toxic. Okay, You've got the
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Speaker 2: you know, white mothballs that people put in with their clothing.
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Speaker 3: Well, where does that come from?
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Speaker 2: It's naturally occurring in petroleum and on international standards, up
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Speaker 2: to three percent of jet fuel can be naphthaline. It's nasty.
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Speaker 2: Now typically it's about two percent, So napthtlene doesn't actually
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Speaker 2: do a good job of combusting and producing energy.
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Speaker 3: It actually kind of.
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Speaker 2: Just goes through the thing and ends up as waste material.
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Speaker 2: It's one of the main ingredients of the invisible microparticles
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Speaker 2: that come out of the engine. But anybody who knows
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Speaker 2: the chemistry, you take a bunch of carbon rings and
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Speaker 2: you start putting them all together, you get sheets of graphene.
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Speaker 2: And so what they've found out is that naptaline and
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Speaker 2: other aromatics come out of the engine and form these
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Speaker 2: onion shaped graphene particles that have toxic metals in the
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Speaker 2: middle of them.
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Speaker 3: They might get coated with.
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Speaker 2: Sulfur and they become spectacular ice nucleation particles.
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Speaker 3: The water vapor that.
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Speaker 2: Comes out of the exhaust as well as is a
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Speaker 2: track to that immediately freezes. If you've ever seen somebody,
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Speaker 2: you know, in a very very cold day, they get
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Speaker 2: a pot of hot water and you know, they throw
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Speaker 2: it up in the sky and before it hits the ground,
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Speaker 2: it turns into a cloud. It freezes what you're looking
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Speaker 2: at when you look up in the sky and you
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Speaker 2: see a plane going across the sky and you go, oh,
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Speaker 2: there's spraying. You know, they're spraying us with the chemtrails.
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Speaker 2: Today it is a trail of chemicals, but it is
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Speaker 2: the burnt residue of the jet fuel that has water
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Speaker 2: vapor freezing on it in an area of the atmosphere
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Speaker 2: that's really cold and really moist, and so it's conducive
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Speaker 2: to you know, Mother nature helps you see the pollution.
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Speaker 2: If the aircraft keeps flying into a region that's a
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Speaker 2: little bit warmer, a little bit less humid, the pollution
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Speaker 2: is still there, but ninety five percent of the time
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Speaker 2: it's invisible. So on a blue sky day, there is
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Speaker 2: just as much pollution up there. And so one of
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Speaker 2: the things that I learned a dozen years ago. This
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Speaker 2: isn't the one I was referring to, but it's another one.
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Speaker 2: If you could imagine back in the sixties or the seventies,
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Speaker 2: when pollution was really horrible, and you know, you could
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Speaker 2: see an airplane take off and there'd just be a
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Speaker 2: cloud of black soot behind it. You know, like maybe
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Speaker 2: you see what's some previously with diesel trucks and things
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Speaker 2: like that. Well, they passed regulations to make it so
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Speaker 2: that they limited the pollution coming out of the jet
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Speaker 2: aircraft only to the.
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Speaker 3: Point where it needs to be invisible.
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Speaker 2: And so the particulate matter now is not big pieces
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Speaker 2: of soot, right, not big pieces of unburnt petroleum, but
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Speaker 2: microscopic pieces that you can't see, which are actually more dangerous.
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Speaker 2: And so ninety five percent of the pollution being spewed
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Speaker 2: by aviation across the sky is invisible. Well, you only
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Speaker 2: get to see the five percent that happens to attract
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Speaker 2: some water vapor and reflects the sunlight.
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Speaker 1: Am I correct in saying that they did the same
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Speaker 1: with call fumes? I mean cause as yes and no, Okay.
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Speaker 2: With cars and very specifically trucks, they required with diesel
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Speaker 2: that it now is ultra lows sulfur diesel, and so
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Speaker 2: they did not make that requirement with jet aircraft. So
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Speaker 2: jet aircraft still has you know, it varies, you know,
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Speaker 2: four to eight hundred parts per million of sulfur. Okay,
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Speaker 2: you can't really put a catalytic converter on a jet aircraft. Okay,
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Speaker 2: it burns in a different way. And so yes, cars
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Speaker 2: and trucks you know.
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Speaker 3: Still do pollute.
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Speaker 2: The world in an enormous way. They just don't do
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Speaker 2: it in the upper troposphere and the lower stratosphere, and
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Speaker 2: it has a different impact.
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Speaker 1: Two point one pounds of common dix side, I mean
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Speaker 1: common dixide has been an ongoing topic for years. We
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Speaker 1: know that it actually doesn't create global warming, so it's
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Speaker 1: almost it's almost irrelevant.
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Speaker 3: Here's the bigger issue with all of that.
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Speaker 2: I'm you know, carbon dioxide is plant food, and anybody
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Speaker 2: talking about global warming and all that, you know, it's
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Speaker 2: another conversation.
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Speaker 3: Not going to go there.
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Speaker 2: Here's the bigger mind blower. Okay, I'll ask you a
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Speaker 2: rhetorical question. I won't put you on the spot and
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Speaker 2: have you answer it. But what would be the normal
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Speaker 2: thing that a person would think if you said, okay,
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Speaker 2: if I had a pound of jet fuel or a
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Speaker 2: kilogram of jet fuel. But let's go with a pound, right,
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Speaker 2: If you had a pound of jet fuel, how much
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Speaker 2: exhaust would you see come out of the engine that
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Speaker 2: burned the pound of jet fuel.
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Speaker 3: Well, it's not a pound, it's actually.
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Speaker 2: About four point four pounds of exhaust. The answer is
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Speaker 2: very simple. In order to combust that hydrocarbon, you have
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Speaker 2: to suck three point four times the weight in oxygen
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Speaker 2: out of the atmosphere so that you get the oxygen
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Speaker 2: to combine with the carbon. You get carbon dioxide or
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Speaker 2: carbon monoxide, neither of which you're necessarily good. But the
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Speaker 2: point is combustion takes whatever is in the fuel, the hydrocarbon,
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Speaker 2: and combines it with an enormous amount of oxygen. For decades,
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Speaker 2: I've wondered why everybody focuses about the tiny little level
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Speaker 2: of carbon dioxide that the atmosphere is increasing due to
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Speaker 2: human activity. We're sucking that much oxygen out of the
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Speaker 2: air to combine with the carbon. When you combine it
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Speaker 2: with hydrogen in the hydrocarbon.
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Speaker 3: You get H two O. You get water, right, So
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Speaker 3: it's mind boggling.
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Speaker 2: But if you if you combust a gallon of jet
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Speaker 2: fuel amongst all of the other things, you actually get.
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Speaker 3: A gallon in a quarter of water vapor.
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Speaker 2: So there's one hundred billion gallons of jet fuel that
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Speaker 2: are combusted on a yearly basis by aviation that spews
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Speaker 2: one hundred and twenty five billion gallons of water into
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Speaker 2: the atmosphere. You've basically got an enormous cloud generating machine,
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Speaker 2: you know, flying through the air, seating the water that
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Speaker 2: is creating from the jet fuel with toxic compounds like
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Speaker 2: napsoline and all kinds of you know, metals that are
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Speaker 2: in the petroleum and you know all that sort of thing.
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Speaker 2: And the false flag that's being perpetrated is don't talk
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Speaker 2: about that pollution. Somebody is spraying you. Well, there's even
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Speaker 2: if there is some type of spraying going on the
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Speaker 2: orders the several like multiple orders of magnitude that the
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Speaker 2: problem associated with the pollution has, I would look at
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Speaker 2: it now. I don't believe in the conspiracy theory aspect
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Speaker 2: of it. But who benefits from distracting your attention away
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Speaker 2: from the pollution that the aviation industry is spewing all
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Speaker 2: over you other than the aviation industry. They could use
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Speaker 2: the process called hydrotreating. There's actually a refinery that I
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Speaker 2: found in Denmark.
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Speaker 3: That does that.
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Speaker 2: They process the petrol or the jet fuel a little
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Speaker 2: bit more. They take out the sulfur, they take out
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Speaker 2: the naphthaline and some of the other polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons
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Speaker 2: to reduce the pollution. Might cost you know, a couple
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Speaker 2: of percent more on the fuel cost, but it would
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Speaker 2: eliminate the pollution. Well, there's no regulation that says that
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Speaker 2: they have to do that, so they're not going to
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Speaker 2: spend the money. They're not going to do it. Now,
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Speaker 2: that wouldn't solve the problem. It would dramatically reduce the problem.
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Speaker 2: But when people are saying no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
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Speaker 2: the contrail lie, right, you know, they say, oh, you know,
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Speaker 2: the biggest lie ever perpetrated against humanity is that those
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Speaker 2: are you know, not contrails, they're chem trails. Well, they
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Speaker 2: are trails of chemicals, but they're not being sprayed out
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Speaker 2: of some you know port. In the airplane, there are
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Speaker 2: massive engines using gargantuan amounts of toxic jet fuel, combusting it,
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Speaker 2: spewing it out. It's normally invisible, but when it's really
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Speaker 2: cold and wet in whatever area they may be flying through,
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Speaker 2: you notice it. Now, that's only a tiny little piece
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Speaker 2: of the puzzle. So let's keep going down the list
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Speaker 2: just quickly.
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Speaker 3: Though.
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Speaker 1: The chemtrail argument also annoys me sometimes because if you
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Speaker 1: go to the airport and you go on the bus
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Speaker 1: that's taking you to the airplane, you can look underneath
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Speaker 1: the plane. You can look at the engines and you
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Speaker 1: won't see any device on any Emirates flight.
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Speaker 2: I completely agree. We could have a whole discussion of
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Speaker 2: how people believe claims that are made. And you know,
25:57
Speaker 2: I forget which Nazi it was, if it is Gurring
26:01
Speaker 2: or Hitler or they're all attributing to you know, if
26:04
Speaker 2: you just keep telling the same lie over and over
26:06
Speaker 2: and over and over again, you know people will believe it. Now,
26:09
Speaker 2: I want to be crystal clear, Okay, I am not
26:13
Speaker 2: saying that nefarious things might be going on.
26:19
Speaker 3: What I'm what I'm saying is.
26:22
Speaker 2: By pointing to this nebulous you know, they are spraying us.
26:30
Speaker 2: It's taking the attention away from the obvious problem that's
26:35
Speaker 2: really the acronym is interesting.
26:37
Speaker 3: It's a trap.
26:40
Speaker 2: Air traffic related air pollution. What I'm trying to do,
26:45
Speaker 2: and thank you for giving me the opportunity, is to
26:48
Speaker 2: raise people's awareness of the enormous amount of pollution that
26:55
Speaker 2: aviation is causing. Now, this is just one aspect of it. Okay,
27:00
Speaker 2: jet traffic is the big one. But smaller aircraft, you
27:05
Speaker 2: know cesnas and other planes like that, they don't use
27:09
Speaker 2: jet fuel. They use what's called aviation gasoline or aviation
27:15
Speaker 2: gas or avgas, which is still leaded gasoline. While there's
27:22
Speaker 2: one hundred billion gallons of jet fuel that are combusted
27:27
Speaker 2: every year, there's about two hundred million gallons of leaded
27:31
Speaker 2: gasoline used by smaller airplanes. Now, there's been studies where
27:37
Speaker 2: they find that the lead that comes out of those
27:40
Speaker 2: airplanes is a really good ice nucleating particle. If you've
27:47
Speaker 2: ever worked with lead, you realize it sucks the heat
27:49
Speaker 2: right out of you. So if you wanted to create
27:52
Speaker 2: ice crystals, you know, lead in the exhaust of airplanes
27:56
Speaker 2: is a very good way of doing it. But unless
28:00
Speaker 2: you've got some other stat there that you want to
28:02
Speaker 2: talk about, let me go back to the thing that
28:05
Speaker 2: I said was my big Eureka moment.
28:08
Speaker 3: A dozen years ago.
28:10
Speaker 2: In twenty ten, a movie came out called What in
28:14
Speaker 2: the World Are They Spraying? And I believe it was
28:18
Speaker 2: twenty twelve, Michael J. Murphy came out with Why in
28:22
Speaker 2: the World Are They Spraying? And I admit I fell
28:26
Speaker 2: for it. I went down the rabbit hole and I
28:30
Speaker 2: started looking, and I did what I normally do, and
28:34
Speaker 2: I put together a two hour movie. I put together
28:38
Speaker 2: a website that to this day it still. I think
28:41
Speaker 2: it was the best website I ever put together. I
28:44
Speaker 2: wrote a forty to fifty page booklet, and then I
28:49
Speaker 2: ran into some information that made me stop and go, hey,
28:53
Speaker 2: wait a minute. Some of this stuff doesn't add up.
28:57
Speaker 2: Some of the water tests that people were doing, some
29:01
Speaker 2: of the soil tests that people were doing, seemed wrong
29:06
Speaker 2: to me.
29:06
Speaker 3: I'll just put it that way, okay.
29:09
Speaker 2: And so one thing I want to get people to
29:12
Speaker 2: think about is, if you're catching rain water, you can't
29:17
Speaker 2: attribute it to a trail of chemicals that you saw
29:22
Speaker 2: behind an airplane. Because you know, cars and trucks and
29:27
Speaker 2: industry and everything else under the sun you know, is
29:30
Speaker 2: raining down. You can say that the rain water is polluted,
29:35
Speaker 2: and that's a valid something to do. But it didn't match,
29:38
Speaker 2: and there was a lot of anomalies. So I kept digging,
29:42
Speaker 2: and here's the thing that caused me to have an
29:45
Speaker 2: absolute eureka aha moment.
29:49
Speaker 3: If you've ever.
29:50
Speaker 2: Watched the Space Shuttle take off. Now, I know it
29:53
Speaker 2: doesn't go out anymore, but it used to. Please understand
29:58
Speaker 2: that very soon, you know, after we're recording this, NASA
30:03
Speaker 2: may be launching its new Artemis rocket, which.
30:07
Speaker 1: Is just I've been promising since January.
30:10
Speaker 2: Well, you know they it's it's hard, you know, to
30:14
Speaker 2: do that. Okay, So their space launch system is like
30:21
Speaker 2: a supercharged version of what they.
30:23
Speaker 3: Used to launch the Shuttle.
30:25
Speaker 2: Okay, a dozen or so years ago, when I was
30:30
Speaker 2: looking into all of this chemtrail stuff. Oh, you know,
30:33
Speaker 2: they're spraying strontium aluminum and burying barium on everybody out
30:38
Speaker 2: of planes. Right when I learned that the fifteen to
30:43
Speaker 2: seventeen story tall solid rocket boosters on the Space Shuttle
30:51
Speaker 2: used aluminum fuel. They use a solid fuel aluminum propellant.
30:58
Speaker 2: There's a polymer that holds all the aluminum together.
31:01
Speaker 3: You know.
31:01
Speaker 2: Once they like that, can't turn it off off it goes.
31:06
Speaker 2: If you calculate the mass of aluminum that is in
31:11
Speaker 2: one of those launches, it's along the same around the
31:15
Speaker 2: same amount as if you took every player on every
31:21
Speaker 2: team in the National Football League in American football weighed.
31:25
Speaker 3: All of the players.
31:27
Speaker 2: It's about half a million pounds of aluminum with one
31:31
Speaker 2: rocket launch.
31:33
Speaker 3: Okay. And I realize that, and.
31:36
Speaker 2: I go anybody who is pointing to some little tiny
31:41
Speaker 2: nozzle on the side of a plane saying, oh, they're
31:43
Speaker 2: spraying aluminum at you, and is not talking about rockets
31:48
Speaker 2: and missiles that use aluminum as solid rocket propellant. I'll
31:55
Speaker 2: just be very very kind and say, you know, they're
31:58
Speaker 2: kind of missing the forest for the trees, and you know,
32:02
Speaker 2: why are our forests more combustible? Could it possibly be
32:08
Speaker 2: that thousands upon thousands of rockets and missiles that go
32:14
Speaker 2: up into the stratosphere using aluminum fuel that's just slowly
32:21
Speaker 2: settling down on the entire planet. Could that be where
32:25
Speaker 2: the aluminum is coming from? So when I had that
32:29
Speaker 2: Aha moment, I threw away my website, I threw away
32:35
Speaker 2: my movie, I threw away my booklet, and I'm like, no,
32:39
Speaker 2: what people are saying is happening are empty claims. They're
32:46
Speaker 2: pointing to what they have concocted in their mind is happening.
32:51
Speaker 3: They have no evidence.
32:53
Speaker 2: When you actually look at Akham's razor and you go, well,
32:58
Speaker 2: what's the most likely source of aluminum? It's all of
33:03
Speaker 2: these rockets and all of these missiles. But it gets
33:06
Speaker 2: even worse than that, because if you think about the
33:10
Speaker 2: thousands of satellites, actually tens of thousands of satellites that
33:13
Speaker 2: have been launched, think about when they go through their
33:18
Speaker 2: working life and they're no longer able to maintain orbit,
33:23
Speaker 2: and they come into the mesosphere and they burn up.
33:26
Speaker 2: As people I'm sure have seen things like that, those
33:31
Speaker 2: metals don't just magically, I mean, they disappear, you can't
33:36
Speaker 2: see them, but they don't go away. And so I
33:41
Speaker 2: actually have been shocked myself with the research that I've
33:44
Speaker 2: been doing. The amount of aluminum and metals that are
33:50
Speaker 2: in the atmosphere due to the re entry of old.
33:54
Speaker 3: Space junk is on a par with the.
33:58
Speaker 2: Thousands of rockets launches that have put the aluminum fuel
34:03
Speaker 2: in the shattosphere and above. And so the real problem
34:08
Speaker 2: is actually something that's referred to as brightening. The white
34:14
Speaker 2: particulate matter that is in the stratosphere from airplanes that
34:20
Speaker 2: fly above the tropopause, in the shatosphere, from rockets and
34:25
Speaker 2: from space junk that's burning up upon re entry is
34:29
Speaker 2: creating this white haze reflecting the sunlight all these microscopic particles.
34:35
Speaker 2: When you look down at the horizon, you see sort
34:38
Speaker 2: of the white haze. It might be a little blue
34:40
Speaker 2: up above, but then as you look down you see
34:42
Speaker 2: it getting whiter and whiter. Now I haven't come up
34:46
Speaker 2: with a term that I'm comfortable with. Yet some people
34:51
Speaker 2: call this accidental geo engineering.
34:55
Speaker 3: Some people call it.
34:56
Speaker 2: Unintentional engineering, you know, whatever the word might be, covert geoengineering.
35:05
Speaker 3: We're making a mess of.
35:07
Speaker 2: The sky and it is doing the things that people
35:14
Speaker 2: are talking about doing to you know, deal with global warming.
35:20
Speaker 2: They want to spray sulfur or aluminum or titanium or
35:24
Speaker 2: calcium or diamond dust or whatever they want to spray
35:27
Speaker 2: in the sky to mask the sun to cool the planet. Well,
35:34
Speaker 2: you know, decades ago, I'd leave it was twenty ten
35:38
Speaker 2: as part of the Convention on Biological Diversity in the
35:44
Speaker 2: Nagoya Protocol, every nation except the United States and the Vatican,
35:49
Speaker 2: and I think Sudan agreed to ban geoengineering.
35:56
Speaker 3: Not the US, not the Vatican, not a couple other countries.
35:59
Speaker 2: But there is a global agreement that we won't do
36:03
Speaker 2: any geo engineering on purpose. But they're essentially accomplishing that
36:11
Speaker 2: to a certain degree by spewing absolute not tons mega
36:18
Speaker 2: tons of pollution in the sky that is blocking the sun.
36:24
Speaker 2: But unfortunately, there's a very good argument that all of
36:28
Speaker 2: those compounds, while they are you know, diffusing sunlight and
36:34
Speaker 2: making it sort of a hazy white. All of that
36:37
Speaker 2: pollution is actually acting like a blanket and is trapping
36:42
Speaker 2: heat and is actually part of the problem. So the
36:45
Speaker 2: idea that they have of oh, we're going to block
36:48
Speaker 2: the sun, well, let me try to give you an analogy.
36:52
Speaker 3: I hope it helps.
36:54
Speaker 2: Say you were out outside on a very very hot,
36:58
Speaker 2: clear sunny day and you wanted to find some shade.
37:03
Speaker 3: So rather than get an umbrella.
37:05
Speaker 2: You had a nice four foot by four foot sheet
37:10
Speaker 2: of aluminum and you held it up above your head
37:14
Speaker 2: and it was shading you.
37:17
Speaker 3: Okay, oh great, you know the sun isn't beaten down
37:20
Speaker 3: on me anymore. But the aluminum would get.
37:22
Speaker 2: Hot as hell and pretty soon it would be burning
37:25
Speaker 2: your hands.
37:26
Speaker 3: You couldn't hold it up anymore.
37:28
Speaker 2: Okay, So well, what if you had two layers of aluminum. Well,
37:32
Speaker 2: then you could hold the layer above you to get shade,
37:36
Speaker 2: and the heat would be caught by the layer of
37:39
Speaker 2: aluminum above you. You're not making the world cooler, You're
37:44
Speaker 2: just shading yourself, and the aluminum that's above your head
37:50
Speaker 2: is trapping more and more and more.
37:53
Speaker 3: Heat in the upper levels of the atmosphere.
37:56
Speaker 2: If you measured the temperature below you you'd be like, oh, great,
38:00
Speaker 2: global cooling, right, No, that's just surface cooling. All of
38:04
Speaker 2: this shit that's in the sky is diffusing sunlight.
38:09
Speaker 3: So maybe we're not.
38:10
Speaker 2: Getting our proper vitamin D and that's causing problems the
38:15
Speaker 2: stuff that's in the stratosphere. Quite arguably, as all of
38:19
Speaker 2: that aluminum rains down, it triggers reactions with chlorine. Hydrochloric
38:26
Speaker 2: acid is one of the waste products of all of the.
38:28
Speaker 3: Rocket fuel, which is destroying the ozone.
38:32
Speaker 2: So we're in a situation now where Elon Musk I
38:36
Speaker 2: saw an article just the other day, I think they
38:38
Speaker 2: put up their ten thousandth satellite. Well, there is zero
38:44
Speaker 2: regulation on the pollution that Elon Musk is spewing into
38:50
Speaker 2: the stratosphere and above with all of his rocket launches
38:54
Speaker 2: and with these ten thousand satellites when they come back
38:57
Speaker 2: down and burn up in the atmosphere, all of those
39:00
Speaker 2: metals you not just aluminum, but imagine all of the
39:05
Speaker 2: unique metal metallic compounds that are in all of that
39:09
Speaker 2: equipment that's going to be dispersed all around the messagephere
39:14
Speaker 2: and the stratosphere. And it takes years for all of
39:17
Speaker 2: those particles to just slowly settle down, and as they're
39:21
Speaker 2: settling down through the stratosphere, they're going to be messing
39:25
Speaker 2: up the own some layer. Now, y'all can believe what
39:28
Speaker 2: you want to believe, Okay, I'm trying to raise people's
39:34
Speaker 2: awareness of things that I've learned that made me go, oh,
39:39
Speaker 2: wait a minute. Nobody's talking about that, and nobody's talking
39:43
Speaker 2: about that, and nobody's talking about that. I'm not saying
39:48
Speaker 2: that our government is anything other than evil. I'm not
39:53
Speaker 2: saying that they haven't done nefarious, horrible things, you know,
39:58
Speaker 2: thinking that it's fine for them to experiment on the
40:01
Speaker 2: population by all means. If you have any evidence of that,
40:06
Speaker 2: bring it to light. But this elephant in the sky
40:12
Speaker 2: is gigantic. I mean, we're talking numbers that are associated
40:19
Speaker 2: with you know, pollution with aviation, not just jets, but
40:23
Speaker 2: helicopters and airplanes and missiles. I mean, think about the
40:27
Speaker 2: number of missiles in the Ukraine and Russian war. Think
40:32
Speaker 2: about the number of missiles right now in the Middle East. Okay, Yes,
40:37
Speaker 2: obviously the damage that the explosions are doing are horrible,
40:40
Speaker 2: and you know that's obviously a much more important problem.
40:44
Speaker 2: But you know, what goes up must come down. And
40:46
Speaker 2: as those missiles are launched, they go up into the stratosphere,
40:50
Speaker 2: they spew aluminum all over the place. Point to that
40:55
Speaker 2: for the source of the aluminum, not some mysterious nefarious plane.
41:00
Speaker 2: And you know where airplanes are spraying stuff on you,
41:02
Speaker 2: because that's just not what's happening. I refuse to use
41:06
Speaker 2: the term geoengineering. I may have said it a few times,
41:08
Speaker 2: and I'm sorry if I did. I wish I could
41:10
Speaker 2: take it back. You can't get away from it. We
41:12
Speaker 2: need to gain regain control of the language because with
41:18
Speaker 2: the word geo engineering number one, I took geology in college.
41:23
Speaker 3: I mean rocks and earth. I mean, it doesn't make
41:25
Speaker 3: any sense. Okay.
41:28
Speaker 2: If what people start talking about is we're polluting the sky, okay,
41:35
Speaker 2: then you get away from the trigger words of geoengineering, chemtrail, contrail.
41:44
Speaker 2: I think it is absolutely an unarguable position. Every plane,
41:53
Speaker 2: every helicopter, every jet aircraft, every rocket, every missile, and
42:02
Speaker 2: you know, even if it was some craft that was
42:06
Speaker 2: going across the sky, you know, purposefully spraying something.
42:09
Speaker 3: Down upon humanity.
42:11
Speaker 2: Even you know, a spray plane has to have an
42:15
Speaker 2: engine to give it thrust to go flying through the air. Okay,
42:19
Speaker 2: every one of those crafts are spewing garbage in the sky.
42:26
Speaker 2: I'm just saying, let's have a conversation about that.
42:31
Speaker 3: If you think there's.
42:32
Speaker 2: Something else going on, go research it, Go find the evidence.
42:35
Speaker 2: That's fine, the numbers associated with air traffic related air pollution,
42:42
Speaker 2: and the completely one hundred percent absolutely unregulated pollution coming
42:51
Speaker 2: from NASA and SpaceX. And think about it, Russia and
42:56
Speaker 2: China and India and Japan and Korea and you know,
43:00
Speaker 2: all of the other nations on the planet who are
43:03
Speaker 2: sending up various rockets, all of the military rockets. If
43:08
Speaker 2: you're seeking some conspiracy of somebody is trying to kill
43:13
Speaker 2: you by spraying something out of an airplane by all means,
43:17
Speaker 2: you know, go look into it. Sure there's a bunch
43:21
Speaker 2: of weather modification that is spewing garbage into this sky, undeniable,
43:26
Speaker 2: no doubt about it. But the several orders of magnitude
43:32
Speaker 2: greater problem is being ignored because people are saying, no, no, no, no,
43:39
Speaker 2: it's not jet exhaust. Don't don't pay any attention to that.
43:42
Speaker 2: And nobody's saying anything about ELON and NASA and all
43:45
Speaker 2: that sort of stuff.
43:46
Speaker 3: And you know, look at what's going on in the
43:49
Speaker 3: Ukraine and is.
43:51
Speaker 2: If you're familiar with Okham's razor, you know, the simplest
43:54
Speaker 2: answer is usually it's pollution people, and we need to
43:58
Speaker 2: focus on it.
44:00
Speaker 1: Yeah, you make a good point. The language actually is
44:02
Speaker 1: a problem. The words themselves become trigger words. Okay, there
44:06
Speaker 1: we go. There's another one virus. You will know from
44:09
Speaker 1: the last six years that the moment you say virus,
44:14
Speaker 1: there will be a contingency. They'll go and then you
44:18
Speaker 1: can't go any further.
44:19
Speaker 3: Let me, let me jump all over that. I know,
44:21
Speaker 3: I only got a few minutes.
44:22
Speaker 2: I got a call from a good friend of mine
44:25
Speaker 2: last night and he's like, Jim, I got a question.
44:29
Speaker 2: You know, you're talking about this, you're talking about that,
44:31
Speaker 2: and it's like, you know, five or six years ago,
44:34
Speaker 2: he was focused on, you know what I call the
44:38
Speaker 2: PCR fraud. Okay, and if anybody understands what the PCR,
44:44
Speaker 2: I won't call it a test. You know, how the
44:46
Speaker 2: PCR fraud was perpetrated upon us? He said, you know,
44:50
Speaker 2: is it possible that people were suffering respiratory problems because
44:57
Speaker 2: of all of this pollution in the sky, and when
45:01
Speaker 2: they went to the doctor or the hospital and they
45:04
Speaker 2: got this kakamami pc R process done to them, it's
45:08
Speaker 2: not a test. It's a fraud that they were tricked
45:12
Speaker 2: into believing that they had COVID, but they were actually
45:16
Speaker 2: just dealing with respiratory problems because they're breathing.
45:18
Speaker 3: A bunch of crap. Am I bingo?
45:23
Speaker 2: Now you can't you know, I identify, Oh, that plane
45:30
Speaker 2: went across the sky.
45:31
Speaker 3: Therefore I'm coughing right.
45:34
Speaker 2: If you see it above you you're not going to
45:37
Speaker 2: be breathing that it's going to blow hundreds of miles,
45:40
Speaker 2: you know, downwind as it's slowly settling. So it's you
45:45
Speaker 2: know likely that you know, I live in California, So
45:48
Speaker 2: if I see a plane overhead, you know it might
45:51
Speaker 2: land in the UK. And if you see something overhead
45:53
Speaker 2: wherever you may be in Europe or wherever, you know,
45:56
Speaker 2: that may be landing in China, and you know what's
45:59
Speaker 2: going on in China, probably is landing in California.
46:03
Speaker 3: The bigger point is what's up in the stratosphere.
46:06
Speaker 2: Any airplane, and very specifically the private jets the wealthy
46:11
Speaker 2: people find high Many of those jets fly in the stratosphere,
46:17
Speaker 2: and so just a.
46:19
Speaker 3: Little tiny bit of meteorology.
46:20
Speaker 2: I'm no expert, but there's some fundamentals that I think
46:23
Speaker 2: I can share. You only get weather in the troposphere.
46:28
Speaker 2: The height of the troposphere varies depending upon where you are,
46:31
Speaker 2: but above a certain elevation, if you're in the stratosphere,
46:36
Speaker 2: you cannot create trails in the sky that are visible
46:40
Speaker 2: because there's just not enough water vapor up there, and
46:44
Speaker 2: the temperature and the humidity are not right. So any
46:47
Speaker 2: flight in the stratosphere, you're not going to see anything.
46:52
Speaker 2: You only see the ones that are lower in regions
46:55
Speaker 2: that are colder and more moist. And so approximately forty
47:02
Speaker 2: percent of all aviation is in the stratosphere. They are
47:06
Speaker 2: invisibly doing stratospheric aerosol injection, which it's not intentional because
47:15
Speaker 2: their main purpose is to get some rich person from
47:19
Speaker 2: point A to point B, right, But the unintended consequence,
47:24
Speaker 2: the side benefit, if you will, is they're polluting the
47:28
Speaker 2: crap out of the stratosphere. People are saying, oh, we
47:31
Speaker 2: have to stop geoengineering. Well, the terminology is messed up. Aviation,
47:38
Speaker 2: rockets and military and everything are polluting the stratosphere with
47:46
Speaker 2: aerosols that are most likely actually creating a warming effect.
47:54
Speaker 2: And if they want to point to oh, global warming,
47:57
Speaker 2: it's sure is shit isn't carbon dioxide. It's all the
48:01
Speaker 2: particulate matter and the water, vapor, and the sulfur and
48:03
Speaker 2: everything else coming from rockets and the aluminum and all
48:06
Speaker 2: the metals that is having the same effect as the
48:13
Speaker 2: most gargantuan geoengineering project you can imagine. So I know
48:17
Speaker 2: we're running out of time. Let me just hit it
48:18
Speaker 2: with the summary. What I did a couple of months
48:22
Speaker 2: ago when I published Project in Humanity is I played
48:27
Speaker 2: a little trick on Chat, GPT and Google, Gemini, and
48:31
Speaker 2: I took all of the numbers that I could compile
48:34
Speaker 2: for all of the pollution from all of these sources,
48:37
Speaker 2: and I said, hey, Chat, GPT, Hey Google.
48:40
Speaker 3: I didn't say it was pollution.
48:43
Speaker 2: I said, if I was some insane geo engineer and
48:48
Speaker 2: I wanted to have an impact on the atmosphere of
48:51
Speaker 2: the planet. And I sprayed all of these lists of
48:55
Speaker 2: things that are coming out of airplanes and jet engines
49:00
Speaker 2: and rockets and missiles, what would be the impact? And
49:04
Speaker 2: I tell you I was half asleep, you know, I
49:06
Speaker 2: didn't even have my first.
49:07
Speaker 3: Cup of coffee. I woke up with that question in
49:10
Speaker 3: my mind.
49:10
Speaker 2: I played that trick on chat GPT and the report
49:15
Speaker 2: just kept coming and coming and coming and coming and coming.
49:18
Speaker 2: That's what you'll find on Project in Humanity.
49:23
Speaker 3: We are the freaking.
49:24
Speaker 2: Guinea pigs of the biggest geo engineering project you could
49:29
Speaker 2: ever imagine some crazed, mad scientists wanting to do from
49:34
Speaker 2: the pollution that we've been spewing out of every plane,
49:39
Speaker 2: every helicopter, every jet, every rocket, every missile, whether you
49:43
Speaker 2: see it or not, if the atmospheric conditions are such
49:46
Speaker 2: that you can see it, have a clue. That's Mother
49:51
Speaker 2: Nature letting you know that that craft is polluting the
49:54
Speaker 2: skies that you're breathing.
49:57
Speaker 3: It's not.
49:59
Speaker 1: Pardon I just topped it in right now and question
50:04
Speaker 1: and yes, yes the answer. Yes, Continuously spraying these substances
50:09
Speaker 1: around the world would very likely cause serious harm to
50:13
Speaker 1: human health and the environment.
50:15
Speaker 2: And you guys, people people can believe what they want
50:18
Speaker 2: to believe.
50:19
Speaker 3: I gave my phone number. I'll give it again.
50:21
Speaker 2: Three one zero six, one nine, three zero five to five.
50:25
Speaker 2: Let's have a reasonable conversation about a massive problem. I'm
50:33
Speaker 2: not saying that there might not also be some you know,
50:36
Speaker 2: nefarious evil plot. You know that somebody's spraying something, they're
50:40
Speaker 2: doing testing or whatever, but talking about it as if
50:46
Speaker 2: it's you know, they are spraying us versus us.
50:51
Speaker 3: Oh, here we go.
50:51
Speaker 1: Sorry, Sorry, sorry, I didn't mean to interrupt, but I'm
50:55
Speaker 1: just reading what it's saying. Yeah, so I said, given
50:57
Speaker 1: the scale septillions of particles and millions of pounds of pollutants,
51:02
Speaker 1: widespread and severe health consequences would be expected globally, particularly
51:08
Speaker 1: for vulnerable populations such as children, the elderly, and those
51:12
Speaker 1: with pre existing conditions. That dovetails with what you said
51:15
Speaker 1: about COVID.
51:17
Speaker 3: And so when you realize that.
51:22
Speaker 2: An ungodly number of micro partic ultrafine you know, particles, Okay,
51:30
Speaker 2: the government measures for particles that are two thou five
51:35
Speaker 2: hundred nanograms in size, but the ultrafine particles are only
51:40
Speaker 2: one hundred nanogram in size and smaller.
51:44
Speaker 3: You can't see it. It's invisible. I'm breathing it right now.
51:48
Speaker 3: You can't get away from it. It's everywhere, Okay.
51:52
Speaker 2: When the sunlight hits it in the sky and reflects
51:57
Speaker 2: off of it, you see it as a white. If
52:01
Speaker 2: Mother Nature attaches some water vapor to it and it
52:05
Speaker 2: forms an ice crystal, you really notice it, Okay, But
52:09
Speaker 2: then it dissipates and it spreads out all over the place,
52:12
Speaker 2: and it slowly is settling down to Earth. You know,
52:15
Speaker 2: if you live near an airport, you know, God help you.
52:18
Speaker 2: It's really bad.
52:20
Speaker 3: So all I'm really.
52:21
Speaker 2: Trying to say is I would like people to consider
52:28
Speaker 2: what I think is the obvious reality. Every plane, every helicopter,
52:35
Speaker 2: every jet aircraft, every rocket, and every missile is leaving
52:41
Speaker 2: behind it a betrayal of chemicals. Let's have a conversation
52:46
Speaker 2: about that and do something about that.
52:50
Speaker 3: It's not going to be easy.
52:52
Speaker 1: What is the solution, James Well, to have fewer flats
52:57
Speaker 1: and fewer rockets.
53:00
Speaker 2: Starts with understanding that the airline industry could get lead
53:08
Speaker 2: out of fuel that is used for small aircraft. That's
53:13
Speaker 2: like obviously a no brainer. They could have refineries process
53:19
Speaker 2: jet fuel just a couple more steps, take out the
53:23
Speaker 2: sulfur and take out the naphthaline. Do you really want
53:27
Speaker 2: you naphthaline from mothballs in your jet fuel spewing out?
53:31
Speaker 2: That's what makes a lot, not all, but a lot
53:34
Speaker 2: of the particulate matter that is essentially you know, do
53:38
Speaker 2: you want to seed your clouds with mothballs? I mean,
53:41
Speaker 2: I'm not making this crap up. That's literally what we're
53:44
Speaker 2: dealing with here, talk about toxic clouds. Do you want
53:49
Speaker 2: to seed clouds all around the world with the residue
53:54
Speaker 2: from one hundred billion gallons of jet fuel, two hundred
53:59
Speaker 2: million gallons of lighted aviation gas and enormous amounts of
54:03
Speaker 2: water vapor along with all of the metals and sulfur
54:06
Speaker 2: and nitrogen and everything else that's in the fuel, and
54:10
Speaker 2: have raining down on that aluminum from NASA's Artemis rocket.
54:15
Speaker 2: When you know, if they get their act together and
54:18
Speaker 2: they actually launch Artemis two whenever they get around to it,
54:23
Speaker 2: as you watch it go up, realize that the plume
54:26
Speaker 2: coming out of the solid rocket boosters on the side
54:30
Speaker 2: is aluminum, and it's going up into the stratosphere and beyond.
54:36
Speaker 2: And that doesn't just magically disappear. It's going to circle
54:40
Speaker 2: the globe and gradually, over the next couple of years
54:44
Speaker 2: settle down.
54:45
Speaker 3: But then there'll be another one and another one.
54:47
Speaker 2: And if you if you actually dig into how much,
54:50
Speaker 2: you know, how many rockets around the world are launched.
54:53
Speaker 3: It's unbelievable. It's absolutely unbelievable. Volcanoes cause problems.
54:58
Speaker 2: You know, they are on a much you know, several
55:02
Speaker 2: orders of magnitude greater than what we're dealing with, but
55:07
Speaker 2: it's a different level of toxicity, and it's in a
55:12
Speaker 2: different region of the sky. We're doing it, especially over Europe,
55:16
Speaker 2: over Asia, over the United States, the concentrated effort in
55:22
Speaker 2: that thin strip of the atmosphere over populated areas. Okay, sure,
55:29
Speaker 2: you know volcanoes have happened forever. It's a problem, but
55:33
Speaker 2: it's for the most part kind of sort of a
55:36
Speaker 2: steady state. You know, the volcanoes are always happening. That's background,
55:40
Speaker 2: and that's an enormous amount of particulate matter. But we're
55:44
Speaker 2: adding to that a not insignificant amount. But let me
55:49
Speaker 2: address your question in a different way, because that's one
55:52
Speaker 2: of the things that you know, comes to people's minds.
55:56
Speaker 3: Sure, if you look at pollution compared to.
56:02
Speaker 2: The Earth and the universe, yeah, it's relatively small. What
56:07
Speaker 2: I'm saying is, think of the largest geo engineering stratospheric
56:14
Speaker 2: aerosol injection, climate engineering project that you could imagine.
56:24
Speaker 3: It's not happening.
56:25
Speaker 2: Okay, it's theoretical, but even if it was, it would
56:30
Speaker 2: pale compared to project in humanity, which is my name
56:36
Speaker 2: for what we're doing to ourselves with all of the
56:39
Speaker 2: airplanes and rockets and everything that is spewing measurable amounts.
56:46
Speaker 2: I mean, we're talking hundreds of billions of gallons of
56:49
Speaker 2: jet fuel, hundreds of millions of gallons of aviation gas,
56:53
Speaker 2: and mega tons of aluminum, rocket fuel and other fuels,
56:58
Speaker 2: with all of the many rockets that NASA and SpaceX
57:02
Speaker 2: are launching, and every other nation around the world, whatever
57:06
Speaker 2: you might be worried about pails compared to what's actually happening.
57:13
Speaker 3: And when you look up in the sky and you see.
57:16
Speaker 2: White trails behind airplanes, that's only about five percent of
57:23
Speaker 2: the miles being flown. Ninety five percent of the time
57:27
Speaker 2: airplanes fly through regions of the atmosphere that don't trigger
57:31
Speaker 2: that ice formation. And so if you think what's going
57:35
Speaker 2: on in the sky with the white trails behind planes
57:37
Speaker 2: is bad, that's only five percent of that small part
57:43
Speaker 2: of the problem. You still have all the aviation letted
57:47
Speaker 2: you know, gasoline. You still have all of the rockets
57:50
Speaker 2: and all of the missiles and all the aluminum from that.
57:54
Speaker 2: The problem is actually much bigger than you could imagine,
57:57
Speaker 2: and it's not due to somebody spraying something.
58:04
Speaker 3: To try to kill you.
58:06
Speaker 2: It's due to the aviation and rocketry industry spewing its
58:13
Speaker 2: garbage all across the atmosphere, quite frankly, with impunity, because
58:19
Speaker 2: various people are going, no, no, no, don't look at that,
58:21
Speaker 2: look at you know. The problem is is some mysterious,
58:25
Speaker 2: you know, evil cabal today. That's the definition of a
58:30
Speaker 2: false flag. Does it mean that it's not happening? A
58:35
Speaker 2: false flag means you're blaming the wrong culprit. So the
58:40
Speaker 2: aviation industry is getting off scott free. NASA and Elon
58:45
Speaker 2: and anybody else doing rocketree bezos and all them, they're
58:48
Speaker 2: getting off scott free. Nobody's going, hey, wait a minute,
58:51
Speaker 2: what did you just spew over my head. I'm just
58:55
Speaker 2: trying to get people to realize that the problem that
59:00
Speaker 2: they're worried about, it's not the problem. The problem that
59:04
Speaker 2: they should be paying attention to, and they shouldn't worry
59:06
Speaker 2: about it.
59:07
Speaker 3: They shouldn't be afraid.
59:09
Speaker 2: They should get upset that they've been bamboozled into thinking oh,
59:13
Speaker 2: it's something other than what it really is. And you know,
59:17
Speaker 2: I got the receipts, and anybody who wants to have
59:19
Speaker 2: a conversation about it give me a phone call three
59:21
Speaker 2: one zero six y one nine three zero five to five.
59:25
Speaker 3: Yeah.
59:26
Speaker 1: I mean you've made a highly persuasive argument when.
59:31
Speaker 2: And you know, I'll speak of myself. Okay, I have
59:35
Speaker 2: a belief structure. I do a lot of research. I
59:38
Speaker 2: you know, I try to learn what's going on. And
59:41
Speaker 2: in the course of this, I've asked a lot of questions.
59:45
Speaker 3: Go do some research.
59:46
Speaker 2: You know, I don't believe anything that GROC or chat,
59:50
Speaker 2: GPT or whatever. But you know, if you ask questions
59:53
Speaker 2: and you get answers, sometimes the answers are surprising, and you.
59:59
Speaker 3: Look at it.
1:00:00
Speaker 2: You have to look inwardly and ask yourself, well, I
1:00:05
Speaker 2: thought the answer was fill.
1:00:08
Speaker 3: In the blank.
1:00:09
Speaker 2: But as I'm doing my research, I'm finding that, you know, oh,
1:00:14
Speaker 2: there's a different answer that conflicts with what I thought
1:00:17
Speaker 2: it was.
1:00:19
Speaker 3: Now are you open.
1:00:21
Speaker 2: To that new information or do you defend your position
1:00:26
Speaker 2: to the death because you identify with the beliefs that
1:00:31
Speaker 2: you have accepted. That's the problem with quite frankly, religion,
1:00:37
Speaker 2: It's like, well, I'm not going to go there in
1:00:39
Speaker 2: this conversation. But the idea is if somebody comes in
1:00:44
Speaker 2: and says, I have some new information, right, if you
1:00:48
Speaker 2: want to have some fun with it. This is kind
1:00:50
Speaker 2: of rude, but you can do it.
1:00:52
Speaker 3: Excuse me, are you open minded?
1:00:57
Speaker 2: Would you like some new information or do you already
1:01:00
Speaker 2: know everything you need to know. I've had a lot
1:01:06
Speaker 2: of people say to me, you know, think about COVID.
1:01:08
Speaker 3: I don't want to know. I don't want to I
1:01:10
Speaker 3: don't want no more information.
1:01:12
Speaker 2: I'm happy where I am. I want to believe what
1:01:14
Speaker 2: I believe. Don't bother me with your new information. Okay, fine,
1:01:20
Speaker 2: have a nice day. You can't make people take the
1:01:24
Speaker 2: red pill.
1:01:25
Speaker 3: Okay.
1:01:27
Speaker 2: You know, if you've ever seen the movie They Live, right,
1:01:30
Speaker 2: you know, put on the sunglasses and see the truth.
1:01:32
Speaker 2: Take the sunglasses off, you go. Oh, propaganda, truth, propaganda truth.
1:01:39
Speaker 2: I have for quite some time now, on the bottom
1:01:42
Speaker 2: of every one of my articles, I had a little
1:01:44
Speaker 2: picture of the little boy in the you know, childhood
1:01:48
Speaker 2: story who's pointing at the emperor who's not wearing any clothes. Right,
1:01:53
Speaker 2: that's kind of what I do. It's like, hey, do
1:01:56
Speaker 2: you believe certain things. The Emperor's naked, There's there's no
1:02:03
Speaker 2: there there. What I have witnessed in this chemtrail, geoengineering,
1:02:09
Speaker 2: climate engineering space is people make outrageous claims and then
1:02:16
Speaker 2: they repeat them, and they repeat them, and they repeat them,
1:02:20
Speaker 2: people adopt them, repeat.
1:02:24
Speaker 3: The claims that were made.
1:02:26
Speaker 2: And you know, my first thing is, well, can I
1:02:28
Speaker 2: see the source material? Can I see the evidence? Could
1:02:30
Speaker 2: I bring that into a court of law? You know,
1:02:32
Speaker 2: do you got documents, you got you know, truth?
1:02:36
Speaker 3: Or do you just have a story. And the story
1:02:40
Speaker 3: is usually mixed up with fear mongering.
1:02:43
Speaker 2: Oh, we're all going to die, they're trying to kill us.
1:02:45
Speaker 2: You know, don't look at the problem. That's something that
1:02:51
Speaker 2: is real and you can't deny and it's going to
1:02:55
Speaker 2: be hard to fix. Let's just blame somebody, let's point fingers,
1:03:03
Speaker 2: make claims and say, you know, they are trying to
1:03:07
Speaker 2: kill you, when if you actually really take an honest,
1:03:12
Speaker 2: good hard look at the problem, you go, oh, there's
1:03:15
Speaker 2: no evidence for that. But there's a ton of evidence
1:03:19
Speaker 2: for all of this pollution. So the summary of all
1:03:22
Speaker 2: of it is the problem is pollution. If you're talking
1:03:28
Speaker 2: about chemtrails, or condensation or contrails, condensating on what right?
1:03:36
Speaker 2: You know, what is it condensing on? Yes, it's water vapor,
1:03:39
Speaker 2: but it's not just water vapor. So the government position, Oh,
1:03:43
Speaker 2: don't worry, it's just water vapor. Well, yeah, there's a
1:03:46
Speaker 2: lot of water vapor there wrapped around a whole bunch
1:03:48
Speaker 2: of toxic crap.
1:03:49
Speaker 3: Okay, So it's propaganda coming from either direction. And you
1:03:53
Speaker 3: know with.
1:03:54
Speaker 2: Geoengineering, geoengineering around the world quite frankly, has been agreed
1:04:00
Speaker 2: to be outlawed by the Nagoya Protocols, except for the
1:04:04
Speaker 2: United States.
1:04:04
Speaker 3: We're not a party to that, so you know, we
1:04:06
Speaker 3: can still do it.
1:04:09
Speaker 2: All I ask is for people to have a little
1:04:12
Speaker 2: bit of an aha moment where you go, you know,
1:04:18
Speaker 2: I honestly I never really thought about the Space Shuttle
1:04:23
Speaker 2: and the NASA rockets are aluminum. Could it be that
1:04:29
Speaker 2: that's where the aluminum is coming from?
1:04:32
Speaker 3: You know, along with Sahara dust and all that sort
1:04:34
Speaker 3: of thing.
1:04:36
Speaker 2: Have an inquisitive nature, ask some questions, challenge all of
1:04:40
Speaker 2: my work. If you point out that I'm missing something,
1:04:44
Speaker 2: You'll be my best buddy.
1:04:45
Speaker 1: Right, How can audience follow your work?
1:04:51
Speaker 2: I do a lot of different things, but for this
1:04:53
Speaker 2: just go to Project in humanity dot com.