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Hour Two | NFL Week 7 Preview: Can the Saints Beat the Steelers? · Off The Bench

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  Speaker 1: Off the Bench with Jacob Hester.
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  Speaker 2: And Matt Flynn.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, here we go.
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  Speaker 1: Where the plays get broken down and science gets denied.
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  Speaker 3: Dude, they said I gotta come off the bench.
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  Speaker 1: Hour two of Off the Bench, live from the Raising
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  Speaker 1: Cane Studio.
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  Speaker 2: All right, welcome back in. OTB here live from Rouse's
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  Speaker 2: on Burbank and Lee. Jake Flynn, Cassie here with you
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  Speaker 2: at Rouse's on Burbank and Lee. And Paulie and Alondra
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  Speaker 2: back in the Raising Cane studio in downtown Baton Rouge.
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  Speaker 2: It is a football Friday getting you ready for the
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  Speaker 2: football weekend. We took a look earlier at the college
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  Speaker 2: slate in the top three. And then we broke down
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  Speaker 2: a little LSU and Auburn. And we'll certainly give you
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  Speaker 2: a last word on that game here coming up. But
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  Speaker 2: let's go to the National Football League. Let's go to
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  Speaker 2: the Week 7 slate. Now, we already saw a game
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  Speaker 2: between the Chicago Bears and the New England Patriots. The
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  Speaker 2: Bears win that one 30-24. Let's go to.
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  Speaker 2: The Sunday slate, and look, we'll come back to Steelers
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  Speaker 2: and Saints. That's going to be the first game. It's
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  Speaker 2: going to be 8.30 a.m. over on the NFL Network.
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  Speaker 2: The Steelers a three and a half point favorite. We'll
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  Speaker 2: come back to that one. At noon, you've got the
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  Speaker 2: 49ers traveling to take on the Atlanta Falcons. The San
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  Speaker 2: Francisco 49ers a two and a half point favorite in
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  Speaker 2: that game.
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  Speaker 3: Don't hate that line.
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  Speaker 2: You've got the Cleveland Browns traveling to the Tennessee Titans.
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  Speaker 2: Right now, Cleveland is a point and a half favorite
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  Speaker 2: on the road. You've got the Indianapolis Colts traveling to
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  Speaker 2: the undefeated 5-0 Minnesota Vikings. You've got the 0-5 Dolphins
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  Speaker 2: traveling to take on the 2-4 Jets. The Jets a 4.5-point
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  Speaker 2: favorite in that one. In the NFC South, you've got
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  Speaker 2: the Tampa Bay Buccaneers 1-5 traveling to the 3-2 Carolina Panthers.
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  Speaker 2: Carolina a 3-point favorite in that one. and it does
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  Speaker 2: look like Baker Mayfield will be back for that game.
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  Speaker 2: You've got the Cincinnati Bengals traveling to take on the
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  Speaker 2: Baltimore Ravens.
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  Speaker 3: Baltimore, a one-and-a-half-point favorite.
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  Speaker 2: You've got the New York football Giants with J.J. McCarthy
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  Speaker 2: as their starting quarterback, 3-2-1, traveling to the 2-4 Texans,
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  Speaker 2: who are 0-3 at home, and the Texans are a
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  Speaker 2: ten-and-a-half-point favorite.
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  Speaker 3: Well, J.J.
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  Speaker 4: McCarthy on pace to throw for 1,000 yards this weekend.
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  Speaker 2: If he does what he did a week ago.
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  Speaker 4: That's right, averaging a 250 per quarter.
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  Speaker 3: There's a lot of yards.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, I would say the Saints' defense is right
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  Speaker 4: up there with the Texans.
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  Speaker 3: Got a better record than them. They do. Not a
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  Speaker 3: big deal. It's weird. Quite an anomaly, I would think. Well,
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  Speaker 3: they're both 2-4, so.
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  Speaker 4: Are they?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, both 2-4. Good for the Texans. Got two. They did.
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  Speaker 3: They got two in a row. They're coming. They're coming.
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  Speaker 2: The Denver Broncos traveling to take on the Arizona Cardinals.
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  Speaker 3: Denver, 4.5-point favorite.
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  Speaker 2: My favorite game of the week, the Green Bay Packers
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  Speaker 2: traveling to the Detroit Lions. The Lions, a 3-point favorite.
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  Speaker 2: You've got the LA Rams going to the Las Vegas Raiders.
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  Speaker 2: The Rams, a 3.5-point road favorite. The Kansas City Chiefs,
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  Speaker 2: the undefeated Chiefs, traveling to take on the Seattle Seahawks.
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  Speaker 2: Right now, Seattle, a 3-point favorite. And then a friends
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  Speaker 2: and family game. The 2-4 Cowboys traveling to Philadelphia to
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  Speaker 2: take on the 2-4 Eagles, where.
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  Speaker 3: Dallas is a four-and-a-half point favorite. Man.
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  Speaker 2: Packers-Lions, yes, please. Chiefs-Seahawks, absolutely. And then a little bit
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  Speaker 2: of a, I think a deep cut.
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  Speaker 3: The Bengals and the Ravens. Yeah, I was looking at
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  Speaker 3: that one, too. I like that one. That's going to
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  Speaker 3: be a fun one. Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Classic AFC North matchups are always a fun watch. It
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  Speaker 4: makes you feel a little bit old school-y, especially when
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  Speaker 4: the weather starts turning a little bit and it gets cold.
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  Speaker 4: I love watching all the NFC North games, except for
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  Speaker 4: the Browns. I don't like watching them, even if they're good.
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  Speaker 3: I was about to say, but they're better. I don't care.
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  Speaker 2: They're not quite as bad as they've always been.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it still just makes me feel dirty watching them.
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  Speaker 3: Wait, dirty? Yep. Why do you feel dirty? I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: Can't explain things, bud. Okay. I also like the Niners-Falcons game.
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  Speaker 3: Do you? I do. Not to say it's going to
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  Speaker 3: be like crazy close.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, I think the Falcons offense, if they are
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  Speaker 4: maneuvering and playing well, I think they're a tough offense
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  Speaker 4: to stop. And I mean, obviously, I'm liking the game
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  Speaker 4: because I get to watch who I think is playing
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  Speaker 4: the best quarterback position.
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  Speaker 3: I get to watch Brock Purdy play.
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  Speaker 4: But I do think that Michael Penix is pretty damn
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  Speaker 4: good at the quarterback position. And with those weapons, I
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  Speaker 4: think they're always going to have a puncher's chance at
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  Speaker 4: a game. And they get the Niners traveling across the
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  Speaker 4: country all.
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  Speaker 3: The way from the west coast to the east coast.
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  Speaker 3: Which is more difficult.
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  Speaker 4: Which is definitely more difficult. So they get them. So
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  Speaker 4: if they play a good game indoors, who knows what
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  Speaker 4: can happen. I mean, obviously the line is going to
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  Speaker 4: favor the Niners. They're two and a half point favorites
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  Speaker 4: on the road. I like that game. I'm not calling
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  Speaker 4: the Falcons to win it, but I call them for
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  Speaker 4: that one to be a close one.
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  Speaker 2: Big matchup in the NFC South as well with the
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  Speaker 2: Tampa Bay Buccaneers and the Carolina Panthers. Tampa Bay 1-5. Now,
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  Speaker 2: Baker Mayfield is expected to be back in this one.
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  Speaker 2: Does that matter? Does it matter going against the 3-2
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  Speaker 2: Carolina Panthers? If you're a Saints fan, You're probably rooting
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  Speaker 2: for Tampa Bay here so the Panthers get another loss
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  Speaker 2: and the leader of the division would be a 3-3
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  Speaker 2: football team. That's what you're hoping. Yeah, that's what you
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  Speaker 2: have to be cheering for. But there's something about the Panthers, man.
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  Speaker 2: I think they're a good football team. Bryce Young's playing great.
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  Speaker 2: Running back's playing great. Two receivers are playing great. The
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  Speaker 2: defense is doing enough. I don't think Carolina's going to
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  Speaker 2: go away anytime soon.
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  Speaker 3: No, they're not.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, I guess their defense is the one side
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  Speaker 4: of the ball that has been, I guess, playing a
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  Speaker 4: little bit behind the other side. There are two losses
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  Speaker 4: on the year. Loss of the Bears, 59-37, but they
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  Speaker 4: still put up 37 points. Loss of the Browns and
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  Speaker 4: a tough one in Cleveland, 21-18. But other than that, man,
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  Speaker 4: have looked really good. I think the Panthers are for real.
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  Speaker 4: If Bryce Young can continue his pace and play the
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  Speaker 4: way he's playing. So, I think they're for a for
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  Speaker 4: real team. So, Saints fans, you do. You got to
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  Speaker 4: hope every single week that the Panthers drop one and
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  Speaker 4: at least give you some sort of glimmer of hope.
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  Speaker 3: You got to hope.
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  Speaker 4: You got to take one back. You got to get
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  Speaker 4: this win this weekend. You got to hope the Panthers
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  Speaker 4: drop one. Even if that means cheering for the Bucs.
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  Speaker 3: I just don't know.
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  Speaker 2: Like, Baker Mayfield right now, if he comes back, like...
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  Speaker 2: What kind of difference does it make?
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  Speaker 3: I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: It seems from a very, very far outsider's perspective that
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  Speaker 4: they're kind of in shambles right now.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: And it's hard to put your finger on what. I
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  Speaker 4: don't follow them enough. I haven't even really watched them
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  Speaker 4: play much. I watched them last week because they played
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  Speaker 4: the Steelers, and I'm always interested in watching the Steelers play.
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  Speaker 3: But other than that. Well, they lost in overtime.
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  Speaker 2: They controlled a big portion of that game.
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  Speaker 3: How about this, though?
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  Speaker 2: For the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, at Cincinnati, they lost by six.
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  Speaker 2: Versus the Browns, they lost by four. Versus the Minnesota Vikings,
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  Speaker 2: they lost by seven. Against the Green Bay Packers, they
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  Speaker 2: lost by three. They beat the Cowboys. And against the Steelers,
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  Speaker 2: they lose by seven in overtime. Every game that they've
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  Speaker 2: lost has been a one-score game. Every single one of them.
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  Speaker 2: One score game.
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  Speaker 3: So are they coming? Is that what you're saying? They're close?
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  Speaker 2: They're one Baker Mayfield away? When I see that, it means, hey,
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  Speaker 2: they're not bad. But, again, I got to stay true
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  Speaker 2: to my saying. Good teams find a way just like
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  Speaker 2: bad teams do.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, and unfortunately that's what we say about– we've said
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  Speaker 4: about the Saints a lot.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Right?
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  Speaker 4: They got to find a way to win. You got
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  Speaker 4: to win the ones you're supposed to, and you got
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  Speaker 4: to pick off some that you're not. But when the
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  Speaker 4: game is on the line, you got to find a
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  Speaker 4: way to win, which is crazy because– The Tyler Shuck-led
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  Speaker 4: Saints team was so good at the end of last
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  Speaker 4: year with way less.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: This year, they just haven't been able to find a way. And, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: I know things, you know, you've got to catch a
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  Speaker 4: few breaks here. Something's got to fall your way there,
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  Speaker 4: whatever it is. But, man, you do. You have to,
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  Speaker 4: if you want a chance to have any sort of
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  Speaker 4: positive season, you've got to find a way to close
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  Speaker 4: out games. But almost more importantly, you've got to find
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  Speaker 4: a way to start games.
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  Speaker 3: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: No question about that. And again, the Buccaneers, well, they
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  Speaker 2: started the last game really, really well. It looked like
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  Speaker 2: they were about to have an easy victory. And then, well,
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  Speaker 2: the Steelers came back. They forced overtime. And we all
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  Speaker 2: know how that game ended. And right now, the NFC
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  Speaker 2: South standings as we sit. Carolina is number one at 3-2.
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  Speaker 3: Atlanta, 2-4. New Orleans, 2-4. Tampa Bay, 1-5.
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  Speaker 2: Again, as bad as it's been for the New Orleans Saints,
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  Speaker 2: you haven't had anybody really run away with it. I
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  Speaker 2: think Carolina is good. I think Carolina is a good
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  Speaker 2: football team. I think they're different than the other three teams.
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  Speaker 3: I do.
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  Speaker 4: The Saints, I don't see. Okay, so I think right now,
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  Speaker 4: up to this point, I think the Panthers are different.
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  Speaker 4: I do actually think the Falcons have a chance to
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  Speaker 4: be different. if they can continue to improve on offense
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  Speaker 4: and Pennix stays healthy, I don't know if the Saints
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  Speaker 4: have that same feeling for me. If they just turn
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  Speaker 4: it around a little bit, they have the roster. They
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  Speaker 4: have the team to do it and to put any
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  Speaker 4: trust in them. I think the Falcons could potentially get
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  Speaker 4: to that point where you're like, I trust this team.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 4: Week in, week out to at least put on a
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  Speaker 4: good– put a good product out there.
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  Speaker 2: I thought they had changed it. I thought they had
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  Speaker 2: turned it around. After they beat Green Bay the way
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  Speaker 2: they did, I'm like, this is the team with all
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  Speaker 2: the offensive weapons that we thought they could be.
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  Speaker 3: And then the last two weeks, I just– Yeah, it's
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  Speaker 3: not as good.
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  Speaker 2: MC South is so hard. It's so hard to figure
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  Speaker 2: out what is what, who is who. But I do
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  Speaker 2: think right now Carolina does look a little bit different.
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  Speaker 3: I trust them.
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  Speaker 4: Like if I was a better, I trust them at
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  Speaker 4: least to keep me in the game.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. Every week.
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  Speaker 2: All right, before we step away, and when we come back,
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  Speaker 2: When we come back, Saints and Steelers in Paris. We'll
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  Speaker 2: break it down here on OTB. Off the bench. Tigers
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  Speaker 2: turn talkers. This is Off the Bench. All right, welcome
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  Speaker 2: back in OTV. Here live from Rouse's Burbank and Leak.
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  Speaker 2: And we're taking a look at the NFL slate. Well,
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  Speaker 2: we've talked about some of the big games of the weekend.
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  Speaker 2: And here in this segment, we're going to talk a
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  Speaker 2: little Saints and Steelers. This one's going to be played
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  Speaker 2: in Paris. As we all know, we've talked about it
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  Speaker 2: all week long. And this is going to be a
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  Speaker 2: game where you're the home team, but it doesn't really matter.
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  Speaker 3: Neutral site game. We get it.
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  Speaker 2: Pittsburgh right now on ESPN matchup predictor. 59.9% chance to
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  Speaker 2: win this game. The point spread. It opened up at 2.5%.
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  Speaker 2: It sits right now at minus 3%. for the Pittsburgh Steelers. Now,
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  Speaker 2: I don't love this matchup for the New Orleans Saints.
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  Speaker 2: I think Warren and Dowdle are good running backs that
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  Speaker 2: they are going to lean on in this game. You
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  Speaker 2: have not been good at stopping the run. It is
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  Speaker 2: not something you do well, and I think Pittsburgh is
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  Speaker 2: going to lean on the run game, and Aaron Rodgers
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  Speaker 2: is going to have a couple of big plays in
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  Speaker 2: play action because of it.
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  Speaker 3: So that's some of the advantages.
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  Speaker 2: Also, I don't love thinking of a young interior offensive
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  Speaker 2: lineman who's probably going to get the start there for
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  Speaker 2: Cesar Ruiz trying to block Cam Hayward don't love that
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  Speaker 2: he was the highest graded defensive tackle in all of
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  Speaker 2: football last year he's still playing at an incredibly high
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  Speaker 2: level and he played against us in college yeah that's
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  Speaker 2: how long he's been playing okay so I don't love
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  Speaker 2: some of the matchups man I just I look at
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  Speaker 2: what the Steelers do well and it's what you don't
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  Speaker 2: do well it is going to take Tyler Shuck to
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  Speaker 2: Chris Alave getting Jawan Johnson heavily involved. And one of,
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  Speaker 2: just please God, one of the running backs to have
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  Speaker 2: a game to step up. Now, AK last week, I
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  Speaker 2: thought he played well. But if you're going to give
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  Speaker 2: Kendre Miller 20 carries and him average three yards again,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know that you can get that game that
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  Speaker 2: you're needing from your running back. And it can be
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  Speaker 2: any of the three running backs, but somebody's got to
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  Speaker 2: step up. Somebody has to go out there, put it
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  Speaker 2: on their shoulders, and have a game. You've got to
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  Speaker 2: have Shuck and Alave and Jawan Johnson and Devon Bailey
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  Speaker 2: do what they've done most of the year. But if
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  Speaker 2: you don't have a running game, if you can't establish
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  Speaker 2: a run against a physical football team like the Pittsburgh Steelers,
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  Speaker 2: who they're going to push you around if you don't.
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  Speaker 2: They're going to bully you a little bit if you don't.
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  Speaker 2: They've got really good pass rushers. It's not just Cam Hayward.
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  Speaker 2: It's not just T.J.
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  Speaker 3: Watt. It's Highsmith.
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  Speaker 2: It's the whole group of rushers that they have on
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  Speaker 2: that football team. And Matt, you know this as well
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  Speaker 2: as I do. If you can't run and you get
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  Speaker 2: away from the run, they're going to pin their ears back,
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  Speaker 2: and it's going to be a long day for Tyler Shuck.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it is.
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  Speaker 4: And so I look at the game, the matchup for me,
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  Speaker 4: trying to decide whether I like the matchup or I
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  Speaker 4: don't like it. And obviously in a world where all
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  Speaker 4: these games in the NFL are so hard to pick
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  Speaker 4: each and every week, and it's getting to be like
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  Speaker 4: that in college as well, I just kind of look
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  Speaker 4: at a little bit more broad view of it. The
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  Speaker 4: Steelers forever have always been known as being a hard-nosed
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  Speaker 4: football team, right? AFC North, everybody in that division, hard-nosed,
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  Speaker 4: workmanlike mentality. We're going to grind, do whatever it takes
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  Speaker 4: to win. Doesn't have to be flashing. Well, since Aaron
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  Speaker 4: Rodgers has been there, that is what they have. They
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  Speaker 4: have found a way with limited, I'm not going to
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  Speaker 4: say limited talent, but not the best roster in the NFL.
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  Speaker 4: Not the best roster that they've, like in the AFC North.
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  Speaker 4: They have found ways to win gritty games, nasty games.
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  Speaker 4: It seems like they're not blowing anybody out ever. They
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  Speaker 4: are always– and now do they come out on the
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  Speaker 4: right side of that every time? No, but every single
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  Speaker 4: game is close. Like they are bred and born and
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  Speaker 4: bred like in the fire of competition in the back
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  Speaker 4: half of games. So they're a little bit more accustomed
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  Speaker 4: to going into every fourth quarter– With a chance, with
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  Speaker 4: a tight lead, maybe down a little bit, but finding
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  Speaker 4: ways to win. And that is something that you've got
• 16:39
  Speaker 4: to question from the Saints. You've proven to us time
• 16:42
  Speaker 4: and time again that you can't close.
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 16:45
  Speaker 4: You certainly can't start, so let's not even think that
• 16:47
  Speaker 4: that's going to happen. I don't think another country is
• 16:49
  Speaker 4: going to make you start any better.
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: Maybe that's what it is.
• 16:52
  Speaker 3: Maybe that's what it is. Flip it. Maybe that's what
• 16:54
  Speaker 3: it is. I don't know.
• 16:56
  Speaker 4: You've got to go to another hemisphere. You've got to
• 16:58
  Speaker 4: go to the southern hemisphere so that everything spins the
• 17:00
  Speaker 4: different way so you can flip that first 15 the
• 17:03
  Speaker 4: other way too. I don't trust the Saints if the
• 17:09
  Speaker 4: game's close headed into the fourth quarter, and I'm sorry.
• 17:12
  Speaker 4: I thought differently multiple weeks ago because of the success
• 17:16
  Speaker 4: they had under a Tyler Shuck-led offense last season. I
• 17:20
  Speaker 4: felt differently than that. I was like, man, you put
• 17:22
  Speaker 4: the ball in Tyler's hand. He's got the best QBR.
• 17:24
  Speaker 4: He's got all this completion percentage, all these things that
• 17:26
  Speaker 4: he did in the last year.
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: It's not him. It's everything else.
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: That goes around with it. Matt, if you can't run
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: the football, just like if you can't throw it, your
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: runners aren't going to have success. If you can't run it,
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: your quarterback is going to have to do so much
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: on his own. And he did until teams were like, hey, hey,
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: we don't have to put that guy in the box.
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: Put him out in coverage. hey, we can actually have
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: six guys in the box.
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: We're going to be fine. We're going to be fine.
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: Our number's going to be okay against this Saints rushing attack.
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: And you know that, like, once that happens, then you
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: get more guys out in the coverage and the windows
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: aren't there. And they don't have to be aggressive in
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: the run game because they know they can handle it
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: with a base box. And I just, I don't see
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: that changing until the Saints show that they can do
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: something in.
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: The run game.
• 18:10
  Speaker 4: No, it's, they are going to run the ball, run
• 18:13
  Speaker 4: the ball, run the ball. They'll RPO you to death
• 18:16
  Speaker 4: they're going to play action you they're going to naked
• 18:18
  Speaker 4: bootleg Aaron Rodgers out and get to the get to
• 18:20
  Speaker 4: their big ass tight end in the flat they are
• 18:22
  Speaker 4: going to try to big boy and if they are
• 18:26
  Speaker 4: going to try to AFC North football you and they
• 18:29
  Speaker 4: are going to do it until you prove that you
• 18:31
  Speaker 4: can stop it I just don't know if they can
• 18:33
  Speaker 4: or not maybe early on maybe there's a lot of
• 18:35
  Speaker 4: juices flowing you've been there a week um you're excited
• 18:39
  Speaker 4: about the opportunity you're the you know, Gail Benson's words
• 18:43
  Speaker 4: are still probably hanging up in the locker room right there.
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: Like, so there's going to be some juices in Petty.
• 18:50
  Speaker 4: But I think that they are, the Steelers are going
• 18:53
  Speaker 4: to grind you down by the end of that game.
• 18:55
  Speaker 4: And it's going to take a good effort. If the
• 18:57
  Speaker 4: Saints want a chance to win, Tyler Shuck, Juwan Johnson,
• 19:01
  Speaker 4: Chris Olave, that passing game has got to do it.
• 19:04
  Speaker 4: And My prediction is if the Saints find a way
• 19:08
  Speaker 4: to win it, again, you're going to look at that
• 19:10
  Speaker 4: statistical sheet, the stat sheet at the end of the game,
• 19:13
  Speaker 4: and Tyler Shuck's going to have somewhere between 20 and
• 19:14
  Speaker 4: 40 yards rushing.
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: He's going to have to do it with his legs.
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: Which helped a lot last week. Yeah.
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: I mean, that helps. And so, like, I know what
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: the rushing numbers were against the Giants like a week ago,
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: but you look at what the Giants' rush defense is
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: and you kind of look at Tyler Shuck like adding, like,
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: that has to happen. That has to happen. And they
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: committed to the run last week, too. Again, Kendrick Miller
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: got 20 carries. Now, they didn't average over four yards.
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: He was three yards and some change. But last week,
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: your numbers were up. because you did say committed because
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: you're playing with a lead yeah you were playing with
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: a big lead so you could commit to the run
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: so that's where those numbers are kind of coming from
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: you're playing with a lead you say hey you know
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: what we don't have to try to have big hitters
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: here let's just try to get some first downs on
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: the ground let's churn some of this clock and so
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: that's what you saw them do so is that going
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: to be the same situation here That's, it's got to
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: be a formula. Like you have to stay with it.
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: You got to try to punch through. I just, I
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: don't know right now if you can get that done,
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: but the Giants, you know, because throughout the week, a
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: lot of people have said, hey, well, you know, ran
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: it pretty good last week, ran it pretty good last week.
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: The Giants, they are, let's see, 32, 31, 29th in
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: rush defense. They give up 135 and a half yards
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: per game on the ground.
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: So, again, they're one of the worst rush defenses in
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: all of football.
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: Good.
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: Pittsburgh is somewhere right outside the top 10. They're like
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: number 12. They only give up 103.
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: Yards per game.
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: It's a different matchup. So, yeah, you had 180. You
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: had 180 because you had a lead and you stayed
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: committed to it. Again, I tip my cap because some
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: teams don't do that. And your quarterback had some rushing
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: yards as well. It's going to be a different matchup.
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: That's why we're saying in this matchup with this team
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: that you're going against, you have to have that.
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: You have to do some of that.
• 21:10
  Speaker 4: So we will see. Look, bigger things, bigger surprises have happened.
• 21:15
  Speaker 4: We're not saying that the Steelers are some just unbeatable juggernaut.
• 21:19
  Speaker 4: Just the matchup up to this point in the season
• 21:22
  Speaker 4: doesn't look the best to us.
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: Adam, I can't tell if you're being real or not.
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: He said Kendre was 20 for 70 yards. That's effective.
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: The 20 part of it is effective.
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it is. I like that.
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: But he's averaging a little bit over three yards a carry.
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: You'd want more when 20 carries.
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: Against a rush defense that's 29th in the NFL.
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: Hey, but three and a third. Three and a third
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: every single play. First down ball. That's first down. That's
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: first down. Let's go.
• 21:52
  Speaker 4: The chains. Look, it is effective. Now, how much does
• 21:56
  Speaker 4: it affect you? I don't know. 20 for 70. I mean,
• 22:01
  Speaker 4: it's decent. You wouldn't confuse it with a great game.
• 22:06
  Speaker 4: But it was better. It was better. It moved in
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: the right direction. So hopefully they can continue that trend.
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: So, yeah, and as they mentioned in the chat there,
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: Caden Ellis, getting him back on the field was a
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: full go. You've got to get him back. He is
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: so important to the middle of that defense. That would
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: be a big, big addition there. You've missed him the
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: last couple of weeks. Anthony Jennings as well, though. Anthony Jennings,
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: he's an edge guy. His best thing that he does
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: is against the run, though. No doubt about it. Getting
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: him back would be a step in the right direction
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: as well. So we'll continue to follow. We'll continue to
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: look at that injury report. It's going to be key,
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: a couple names there.
• 22:44
  Speaker 4: And I've got to say, like I've told you all,
• 22:46
  Speaker 4: not traditionally been a Saints fan, but I've told you
• 22:49
  Speaker 4: all since doing this show and covering them a lot more,
• 22:52
  Speaker 4: I watch the Saints games, and I find myself cheering
• 22:55
  Speaker 4: with my heart.
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 22:57
  Speaker 4: I'm going to be interested going into this game. I'm
• 22:59
  Speaker 4: just going to turn the game on, right? I'm just
• 23:00
  Speaker 4: going to start watching it. I'll be interested to see
• 23:02
  Speaker 4: who the heart cheers for this week.
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: Oh, because your boy. I know.
• 23:06
  Speaker 4: I know. I got a feeling it's going to be
• 23:07
  Speaker 4: the Steelers, but I don't want to have that feeling.
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: I want to see.
• 23:11
  Speaker 4: I want to see who the heart, like on the
• 23:13
  Speaker 4: third down, is the heart saying, come on now.
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: Come on, Steelers. Stop them here. I don't know. Maybe
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: it'll be the Saints.
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: It's going to be a big test.
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: My heart's going to be with the Saints. No doubt
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: about it. And look, I.
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: I enjoyed my couple days there in Latrobe, PA, breaking
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: down the Steelers. But, yeah, no, I'm going with Saints.
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: And C.J.
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: Donaldson is somebody I'd like to see get a little
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: bit more rut. I know he had the fumble. I
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: know he had the fumble. But just watching the tape,
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: watching the end zone copy, and seeing the running backs
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: that have played for you this year, he sees it
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: better than the other guys right now.
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: He sees it better. He fumbled.
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: And I know what gets you on the bench faster
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: than anything at the running back position. You put the
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: ball on the ground. You can come stand by me.
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: But I would like to see him get a couple
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: more carries because I do think he is a good
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: player this year with a little juice to him. Started
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: out playing fullback for the Saints, but when he's gotten carries,
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: he's been productive. All right, we are going to step away,
• 24:06
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• 24:09
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• 26:06
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• 26:14
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• 26:23
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  Speaker 4: And then, like, just random ones pop up at the house. Like,
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  Speaker 2: Huck Flynn, like I think I do, he's bartering out there.
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: Oh, they're wheeling and dealing.
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: Squishes and fidgets, man. I think it's slowing down. I
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: think it's slowing down.
• 27:16
  Speaker 4: Fidget's back? Fidget's kind of, I would say they probably
• 27:23
  Speaker 4: got replaced a little bit.
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: No, the Squishies. I don't know. It's crazy, bro. It's
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: wild out here in these streets. It's wild out here
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: in these streets. I don't want none. All right. Fair enough.
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: We had one of the teams that looked like they
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: could make a playoff run go down last night, Matt.
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: Who?
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, one of the teams that could make a playoff
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: run lost last night.
• 27:46
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: College football. Oh, who was it? Memphis played? Is that
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: that team?
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: No, we didn't have a flag game with my son. Oh,
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: Memphis Tigers, bro.
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: Oh, sorry. I can't remember. James Madison. James Madison. They lost.
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: They went down to Appalachian State 34-31.
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: Oh, interesting.
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: In overtime, Appalachian State nailed a field goal to win 34-31.
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: First loss of the year. for James Madison. Now 7-1.
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: Good riddance, you know.
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: Billy Napier, of course, the coach at James Madison now.
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: Did you know that? I did know that.
• 28:24
  Speaker 4: Now that you said it, I wasn't going to pop that.
• 28:27
  Speaker 4: If that was multiple choice, I'm getting it. If that
• 28:30
  Speaker 4: was a fill in the blank, I ain't getting it.
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: So, James Madison, then their likelihood of making the CFP
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: is not going to happen because, well, they didn't really
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: have anybody on their schedule that was going to hold
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: up enough for them to have A loss. And so, look,
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: unless something crazy happens. We had two G6 teams make it.
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: A year ago. But, yeah. I think that's a good loss.
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: I think that's a good loss for everybody. Goes down
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: to Appalachian State. Yep. I think the less G6 teams. Well, now,
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: I mean. The better.
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: The captain of all G6 teams. Looks like they're in
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: a position.
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: Tell everybody else. Because, obviously, I don't know. Who's the captain?
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: Who do you think? If I was to say, like.
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: The captain of the g6.
• 29:15
  Speaker 4: Captain of the g6 boise state yeah yes there you
• 29:19
  Speaker 4: go high five you got it that was well i
• 29:22
  Speaker 4: was filling the blank.
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: Too uh they're 20 i.
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: Didn't give you multiple choice oh you're an idiot boise
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: state is as we mentioned earlier taking on washington state
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: but now they look like the clear favorite of the
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: g6 rep in the college football playoff they're 21st in
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: the country, the only team that is ranked. And look, JMU,
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: if Boise did have another slip-up, they would figure to
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: slide right in there. But James Madison, with that loss,
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: who was, let's see, 26th, 27th, 28th, they were.
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: Technically 29th in the country overall.
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: In the polls there, if you look at others receiving votes,
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: now it clearly looks like it is going to be
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: the Broncos of Boise State.
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: Although New Mexico, I guess, is still there. A little frisky. Yeah, frisky.
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: All right. New Mexico 5-1 on the year.
• 30:13
  Speaker 4: I feel like if it's Boise State, it gives everybody
• 30:16
  Speaker 4: a comfort feeling at least.
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: Nothing to shake your fist at.
• 30:20
  Speaker 4: JMU still hadn't reached that comfort zone level for the
• 30:23
  Speaker 4: general public, I don't think. New Mexico certainly wouldn't feel
• 30:26
  Speaker 4: comfortable with that. But if Boise State's in the playoffs,
• 30:29
  Speaker 4: you're like, oh, okay. That makes sense.
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: They're a blue blood. Are they a blue? Is Boise
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: State a blue blood? Hold on a second. Blue turf.
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: They got blue turf. Are they a blue blood? They're
• 30:40
  Speaker 3: just consistently there. They're always there. For G6, obviously. They're
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: always there. But for college football. I'll give you a
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: soft maybe.
• 30:49
  Speaker 4: A soft maybe. It's interesting. Of course, they're never going
• 30:52
  Speaker 4: to win at all. But they're just always there. It's
• 30:55
  Speaker 4: kind of like Gonzaga. Is Gonzaga a blue blood? Yeah,
• 30:59
  Speaker 4: I think Gonzaga's a blue blood.
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: I don't know. Are they comparable to Boise State? They
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: haven't won one.
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: Gonzaga's been to two finals, final games, national championship games.
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: They lost to North Carolina and UConn, which are blue bloods.
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: Right. I don't know. Gonzaga's, like, right there on the line.
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: If Gonzaga's not, Boise's not.
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: No, for sure. For sure.
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: Because Gonzaga, I mean, they had the lead with, like,
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: a minute 30 left in a natty against North Carolina
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: and lost.
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: But, I mean, you've got to think. They're right there.
• 31:25
  Speaker 4: The smaller school that's relevant every year for the last, what,
• 31:30
  Speaker 4: 25 years, 20 years?
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, since we were playing. Hard to do. Yeah.
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: Hard to do. It is. I mean, yeah. Poll question
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: of the day. Poll question of the day. Are they
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: going to be in a– are they going to be, like,
• 31:42
  Speaker 3: in a– Are they going to do a Pac-12 situation? Who?
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: Boise State. They are in the Pac-12. Are they? Yeah. Okay, yeah.
• 31:50
  Speaker 3: Did I just inform you of that? No, no. Okay,
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: now that you say it. My bad. Sure. Now that
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: I say it. Now that you say it. Multiple choice.
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: I think Gonzaga is actually moving to the Pac-12 this year.
• 32:01
  Speaker 4: At what point does the Pac-12 not become part of
• 32:04
  Speaker 4: the G6?
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: It's not bad. I'm not going to say it's bad,
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: but I'll give you a list of the teams.
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: It's not great. I'll give you a list of the
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: teams if you tell me.
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: You've got Oregon State, Boise State, San Diego State, Texas State,
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: Utah State, Fresno State, Colorado State, and Washington State.
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: They should call it the state conference. Yeah, it's too
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: many states. Whoa. Every team has stayed in it. That's...
• 32:33
  Speaker 3: All right. I want the Beavers. Five and two.
• 32:37
  Speaker 4: That was hard for me to just like my traditional brain.
• 32:42
  Speaker 4: Wrapping my head around the Pac-12 like a G6.
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah. It's hard. It's hard to do. What a shame.
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: Hold these states.
• 32:50
  Speaker 4: Oh, kind of speaking on that same note, I did
• 32:52
  Speaker 4: a little math at one of our breaks. The classic
• 32:56
  Speaker 4: ACC matchup we were discussing earlier between Cal Berkeley and SMU.
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah. This weekend. That's right. You heard it right. ACC.
• 33:07
  Speaker 3: They are a combined....
• 33:11
  Speaker 4: The closest distance from either one of those schools, the
• 33:15
  Speaker 4: closest point of the Atlantic coast as the crow flies
• 33:23
  Speaker 4: is Georgia's coastline, Jekyll Island, St. Simons, and Sapello. I
• 33:28
  Speaker 4: don't know if I'm saying that right. Sapello Island. It's
• 33:30
  Speaker 4: in Georgia, part of the Atlantic coast. That's the closest
• 33:33
  Speaker 4: point as the crow flies to Dallas.
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: And to Berkeley. Okay. Okay.
• 33:39
  Speaker 4: Cal is 2,355 miles away from its closest point to
• 33:43
  Speaker 4: the Atlantic Ocean. SMU, 910 miles. So a combined travel
• 33:49
  Speaker 4: distance as a crow flies, Jake, 3,265 yards between these two.
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: Yards?
• 33:56
  Speaker 3: Yards. Miles. I don't know. That would be a little
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: bit more comforting.
• 33:59
  Speaker 4: 3,265 miles combined between these two ACC schools. So the
• 34:05
  Speaker 4: closest point to the Atlantic Ocean for both of them.
• 34:09
  Speaker 4: That's as a crow flies, but don't you try to
• 34:10
  Speaker 4: get in a car. It's going to be way more
• 34:12
  Speaker 4: than that. It's going to take you a long, long time.
• 34:15
  Speaker 4: So a little bit strange world we live in right now,
• 34:20
  Speaker 4: but it is a classic matchup. Do you know how
• 34:23
  Speaker 4: these two teams are faring in the ACC?
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah, SMU's doing good. Cal's doing bad. Is SMU doing good?
• 34:32
  Speaker 3: They're ranked. All right.
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: That's the only reason we talked about it. That's the
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: only reason they got a mention. It's because we're going
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: through the ranked on ranked, or at least like one
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: team in the top 25 matchups.
• 34:45
  Speaker 4: Do you even think about the geography anymore? About all
• 34:52
  Speaker 4: these weird conferences? It was like hot news when they
• 34:57
  Speaker 4: first announced.
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Honestly, I just forget about it. I kind of
• 35:01
  Speaker 3: forget about it.
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: I forget about it until somebody goes and plays Cal.
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: Like when Clemson went and played Cal, I'm like, why
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: the hell are they going to Cal?
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah, conference.
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: They're Clemson.
• 35:09
  Speaker 3: Oh, they have to.
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: It's required.
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: It's a trip that they have to make because it's
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: a conference game. Jeez.
• 35:16
  Speaker 3: It's still dumb. Super dumb. Still doesn't make a whole
• 35:19
  Speaker 3: lot of sense.
• 35:21
  Speaker 4: 2,355 miles from Cal Berkeley to Jekyll Island, Georgia.
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: Tight. And Cal stinks. They're three and four.
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: And Kevin Jennings is the quarterback for SMU for the
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: 17th season.
• 35:37
  Speaker 3: You can't tell me otherwise. He hadn't gotten worse or better.
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: No, but he's been there.
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: He's been okay.
• 35:43
  Speaker 4: You know what you're going to get. You're going to
• 35:45
  Speaker 4: be good. You're not going to be great. You're not
• 35:47
  Speaker 4: going to be bad.
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: That is so fair, and he's exactly right. Classic ACC matchup.
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: My coach used to tell me, if you're not getting better,
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: you're getting worse. He's done neither. He made my coach
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: a liar.
• 36:01
  Speaker 4: He did. Because he did not get better and he
• 36:04
  Speaker 4: did not get worse.
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: For like six years, same guy, same identical guy.
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: All right, we are going to take a break.
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: More OTB.
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: We still got your favorite games coming up. We got
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: a little What's the Ticket? NFL and college version. Then
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: we've got the old pontoon parlay NFL and college version.
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: So a laundry back in studio. Tell Paulie what that means.
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: Paul should Paul should know this.
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: Paul's an OG hanging with Hester 6 to 8 p.m.
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: Producer. He should know some of these games. Well, that's
• 36:37
  Speaker 3: pontoon parlay.
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: I gave him the rundown, but I didn't know that
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: we were doing NFL parlay, but I'm down.
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: You know why? You know why we're doing that?
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: Because B-Rabbit over here in the middle of the show
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: said we should do an NFL pontoon parlay, Alondra.
• 36:51
  Speaker 3: I'm down. He made the executive decision. I thought it'd
• 36:55
  Speaker 3: be fun. Yeah.
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: She said she's down twice.
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: It's good.
• 36:58
  Speaker 4: Hey, Alondra, we did it last year and we called
• 37:00
  Speaker 4: it something. Jake couldn't remember what it was because he's dumb.
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: I think it was the party barge or something.
• 37:04
  Speaker 3: Party barge. There it is. The NFL party barge coming
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: at you.
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 37:09
  Speaker 3: Today.
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: Real big dum-dum. All right, we'll take a break. More
• 37:13
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  Speaker 2: I said it's too late to apologize. It's too late.
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  Speaker 3: All right, welcome back in OTB.
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: Inside the chat here, Yodak says, Jake, you were being
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: hard on Flynn. You keep calling him an idiot and dumb.
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: That's not nice. Well, technically, I called him an idiot,
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: and he called me dumb.
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: So. Yes, true. I did. I did call you dumb.
• 39:42
  Speaker 3: But I said it a lot sweeter.
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah. So technically, we're throwing shade at each other.
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean?
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: Is that the one you thought?
• 39:51
  Speaker 3: That's the one I thought. Okay. All right. Well, you
• 39:53
  Speaker 3: got to keep this volume thing up, bud. I guess
• 39:55
  Speaker 3: there's no point to have it down.
• 39:56
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: Because if we want to, like, be very excited and
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: be like, that was a good play. Yeah.
• 40:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Or if, like, we need some rock music. No. No.
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: Top left.
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: Or if we just wild card it. Ooh, spooky season.
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: What's bottom left? What's purple?
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Hell yeah, brother.
• 40:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I didn't know that one existed. That's new. All right.
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: Bottom right, because we haven't got to.
• 40:32
  Speaker 3: That feels very AMR. Yeah, that was too AMR. I
• 40:36
  Speaker 3: don't like that one. This one? That's OTV. All right.
• 40:40
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: Like Alondra said in the chat, clearly they're both idiots.
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: We love you, Landry. Hey, great bump music, by the way.
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: Got me excited. Thank you. I appreciate that. She's not wrong.
• 40:52
  Speaker 3: She's definitely not wrong. We're good.
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: That's how we talk to each other. Terms of endearment
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: between the two of us. We've been doing it for
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: two decades.
• 41:00
  Speaker 3: Two decades plus.
• 41:01
  Speaker 4: I tell my kids, you know, like if the coach
• 41:03
  Speaker 4: stops yelling at you, that.
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: Means you're in trouble. That means you're in some trouble.
• 41:06
  Speaker 3: It's a bad situation. Also, inside the chat, Mr.
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: Big said, Nick Saban, sports psychologist, said calling people dumb
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: is personal and a no-no.
• 41:14
  Speaker 3: The wizard. The wizard. The old wizard. The old wizard. Yeah.
• 41:19
  Speaker 3: Just like the stereotypical psychiatrist. I saw.
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: So the Coach Saban documentary came out, and like the
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: first thing I saw was the wizard. And I'm like,
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: I haven't thought about the wizard in so long. Right, right.
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: But when you're young and you play for Nick Saban,
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: you're going to see the wizard every week. Yeah.
• 41:38
  Speaker 3: You're going to see the wizard a lot.
• 41:40
  Speaker 4: It was so funny because like if you– drew up
• 41:44
  Speaker 4: the stereotype of what that position is, who that person is, right?
• 41:49
  Speaker 3: That is what you would draw up.
• 41:52
  Speaker 4: That guy, skinny, tall, long face, this pointy beard, like
• 41:57
  Speaker 4: the stereotypical psychiatrist, psychologist.
• 42:03
  Speaker 3: I don't even know the difference. I don't know. It's
• 42:05
  Speaker 3: just like it was mandatory.
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: You had to go see the wizard.
• 42:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you just had to go see the wizard.
• 42:08
  Speaker 4: And, you know, I think there's a lot of good
• 42:10
  Speaker 4: from sports psychiatrists.
• 42:13
  Speaker 3: There's a lot of good that comes from that.
• 42:15
  Speaker 4: You have to learn how to deal with emotions, especially
• 42:18
  Speaker 4: in this world with a lot of people dealing with
• 42:20
  Speaker 4: mental health issues. There is a lot that goes into that,
• 42:24
  Speaker 4: and there's a lot of.
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: Help that you can get.
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 42:27
  Speaker 4: I feel like all the good teams that I was
• 42:29
  Speaker 4: on or most of the teams I was on had
• 42:31
  Speaker 4: at least access to a sports psychiatrist. Now Saban was,
• 42:35
  Speaker 4: I mean, it had to have been like on the
• 42:37
  Speaker 4: cutting edge of that stuff.
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree.
• 42:38
  Speaker 4: And I don't even think it was just like at
• 42:41
  Speaker 4: the time mental wellness and mental health wasn't like a
• 42:44
  Speaker 4: common term.
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: No.
• 42:46
  Speaker 4: But I think it was just about how to deal
• 42:48
  Speaker 4: with to be a better athlete, right? and how to
• 42:50
  Speaker 4: deal with the ups and downs, how to deal with
• 42:53
  Speaker 4: getting yelled at by Coach.
• 42:54
  Speaker 3: Saban and his staff, right? No doubt. There was a
• 42:56
  Speaker 3: lot to that.
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: Because you've probably never been talked to like that before
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: in your life.
• 43:01
  Speaker 3: No. Like, I was prepared.
• 43:02
  Speaker 4: Like, my high school coach and coaching staff, they yelled,
• 43:05
  Speaker 4: and we would get MF'd and stuff a little bit
• 43:08
  Speaker 4: here and there, and cussed at, like, yelled that in
• 43:10
  Speaker 4: high school so i was i feel like i was
• 43:12
  Speaker 4: as ready as.
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: Anybody as anybody was going to be yeah um but
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: i didn't because i went to i mean i went
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: to evangel christian right and so we didn't get talked
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: to like that now thankfully thankfully i had joey hester
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: yeah you know raising me we were training kind of
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: callous yeah.
• 43:26
  Speaker 4: Callous did that a little bit yes but nobody could
• 43:29
  Speaker 4: have enough calluses on them to get into going to
• 43:31
  Speaker 4: that stuff so it's true that the availability and it
• 43:34
  Speaker 4: is and it is um You know, it's a great
• 43:37
  Speaker 4: thing to have a sports psychiatrist around. So I didn't
• 43:39
  Speaker 4: think we'd be talking about the wizard right now. Well,
• 43:41
  Speaker 4: it was in the chat.
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: Shout out to Mr.
• 43:43
  Speaker 3: Big.
• 43:43
  Speaker 4: I really don't even remember a lot of the specific
• 43:45
  Speaker 4: conversations I had with him. I can't remember if, you know,
• 43:49
  Speaker 4: at the time it helped or didn't help or whatever
• 43:51
  Speaker 4: it was. But, you know, an accumulation of a lot
• 43:55
  Speaker 4: of different things.
• 43:56
  Speaker 3: It's called an amalgamation.
• 43:57
  Speaker 4: Even if something helped, like things that you do only
• 44:00
  Speaker 4: help a little bit, a little bit, a little bit,
• 44:03
  Speaker 4: even if you don't even notice them. Take a multivitamin pack.
• 44:06
  Speaker 4: Maybe it helps a little bit. You add a lot
• 44:08
  Speaker 4: of little bits up, and it equals a big thing.
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: I can tell for me, like, you know, first time
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: being away from home, and you talk through that, and
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: you're like, okay, well, how does that make you feel?
• 44:16
  Speaker 3: Like, what do you think you need? Blah, blah, blah.
• 44:18
  Speaker 3: You know, whatever that situation was.
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: And I remember for me, like, he's like, hey, go
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: find somebody that you have something in that's not your teammate.
• 44:25
  Speaker 3: And it's like, all right, well, what'd I do? I
• 44:26
  Speaker 3: went and talked baseball with Jack Marucci. Yeah. Every day.
• 44:29
  Speaker 3: Got to have some sort of outlet, right? Every day, Jack.
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: Marucci and I would sit in there, and we'd talk
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: about baseball. And that was my outlet. That was good
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: for me. That made me feel like I had a
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: father figure. I was at home just shooting the bull,
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: talking a little sports. And me and Jack, it felt
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: like an hour. And Joe Lawrence, who was a teammate,
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: but Joe was much older than us because he's a
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: professional baseball player. Joe was a big brother to me.
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: I had Joe Lawrence to talk baseball with. I had
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: this father figure in Jack Marucci. And so I had
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: an older brother and a father figure. And I would
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: just talk with him. So it helped me as I
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: moved away from home for the first time.
• 45:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's always good to have a safe place.
• 45:05
  Speaker 4: And Jack Marucci, he might be considered a sports psychiatrist
• 45:08
  Speaker 4: for a long time.
• 45:09
  Speaker 3: Didn't even have the title.
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: He didn't have, like, really no doubt about it. The
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: things that– the value that Jack Marucci has given this
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: university is as much as anybody has given this university.
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: All right, we are going to step away. And when
• 45:21
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• 45:23
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