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Lunch with the Clydesdale - I'm Home! · Clydesdale Media Podcast

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what is going on everybody
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it is lunch time lunch with
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the clydesdale what's going
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on everybody hope
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everybody's having a good
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time corey ken howardy in
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the chat ken been on the
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road listening to crossfit
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podcast since five a.m in a
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and driving from winnipeg
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to minneapolis that is a
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long drive brother brother
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what's up sarah jody lynn
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ah good to have you all
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here good to be back home
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Good to be back home.
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Flew in from Montana yesterday.
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Had a layover in Denver.
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Man, insane.
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I had, it was a fifty minute layover.
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Gate to gate.
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It told me it was a twenty
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four minute walk.
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So I'm hustling through.
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missed a turn on the signs
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to get from um b to a um so
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did about an extra thirty
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gates of walking um then re
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redirected got over to my
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right gate I was the last
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one on the plane right
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before the door closed but
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thank god we made it and
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then when we landed in
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columbus I have never
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landed in a plane so hard in my life
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It hit the ground on the
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runway and all of the
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baggage compartments popped open.
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It landed so hard.
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It was completely insane.
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But so glad to be back here.
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Got to see my wife for the
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first time in five days.
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And it was good to be with her.
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She was really bummed she
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couldn't come with us on this trip.
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But yeah.
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Ken Walters is on a nine hour,
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ten and a half hour drive
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with stops this morning.
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I don't envy that after what
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I've just been through.
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Sarah Cooper,
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anything under an hour and a
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half layover is too risky for me.
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I agree.
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Because it was a fifty
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minute layover from the
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time I got off the plane to
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the time the plane took off.
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Not when it boarded, but when it took off.
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And I, like I said, I barely,
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barely made it.
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I was the last person on.
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was crazy but we're here
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we're home we're safe for
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sound it's all good um and
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glad that I got to spend
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some really quality time
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with my daughter um had
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some good talks on the trip
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which we haven't been able
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to do in a long time and
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she called last night
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yesterday was her first day
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of work at the new place
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and she's already doing
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awesome and uh which I knew
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she would so I'm so happy for her
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But the one thing that,
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this is one interesting
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fact that I learned.
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The population of the entire
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state of Montana is less
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than the population of the
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county where Columbus, Ohio is.
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So there's more people in Franklin County,
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Ohio, where Columbus is the center of,
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than there is in the entire
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state of Washington.
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Not Washington, Montana.
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Entire state of Montana.
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That is insane.
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So she's going from living
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in a pretty decent-sized
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city to a state with not
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very much population.
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So that is fun.
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What I wanted to get into today,
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and I am exhausted.
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I will...
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I've had a hard time keeping
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my eyes open at work this morning.
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Every time I do this,
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like these long trips, I'm like,
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I should take an extra day
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off just to chill.
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But I am really struggling
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to keep my eyes open today.
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Got to throw my dart.
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Got to be like Dave.
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Not too bad.
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Actually,
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maybe an inch and a half from the
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bullseye on the sixteen.
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so right height just need to
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go a little left little
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right little left right
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right so um yeah good shot
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good shot today um wow good
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question denise uh scott
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have you thought about
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retiring in a different state
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So I've lived in three states in my life.
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I lived in Pennsylvania growing up.
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I moved to Florida and
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worked there for four years.
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And then I've lived in Ohio
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the rest of my life.
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My wife and I have actually
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talked about it.
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But the current value of my
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home and what I owe on it
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were within ten years of retirement.
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If we sell off our home,
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we would have a lot of money to pay
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without any interest,
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without anything going on in the, in the,
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in its current state, um,
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we would have enough for
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about ten years of rent in
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a decent community.
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Um,
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And we have really nothing
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holding us here in Ohio.
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I love the people.
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I love my friends.
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But if my daughter is half a country away,
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I'd rather be closer to her
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than closer to, I don't know.
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I don't know.
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We've really thought about it.
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We have thought about moving
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closer to wherever my
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daughter kind of settles
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after retirement.
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my wife was thirty five when
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she had my daughter so we
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had kids later in life and
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um yeah I think that it's
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realistic that we will
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probably move after
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retirement uh ken says my
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attempt was invalid not in
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the video um yeah
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I do think I'm going to hook
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up a little camera to the dartboard, um,
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and bring it on for when I,
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when I throw my dart.
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Um,
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and then I can use it for other things
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too.
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Uh, but I gotta, I gotta figure that out.
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And I've been too busy with other things.
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Uh,
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this weekend at my mom's eightieth
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birthday is actually tomorrow.
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No, it's actually Thursday.
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My mom's eightieth birthday is Thursday.
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And, um,
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And then we're having an
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eightieth birthday party
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for her in Pennsylvania on Saturday.
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So I've got to hop in the car,
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drive four hours for that,
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drive four hours back.
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And then my wife is having
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her second knee surgery next Tuesday.
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So it's going to be a busy few weeks here.
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Denise,
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we're at a crossroads to California
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is too expensive right now.
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Yeah.
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See,
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we live in one of the best school
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districts in the country
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and we pay for that.
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The property taxes where I live are awful.
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maybe the same if not more
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than my mortgage payment.
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And so if we could get rid
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of that tax payment and pay
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rent somewhere after we sold the house,
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that is really realistic to move.
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So see ya.
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I'm with you.
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I am with you.
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So I watched Dave's Weekend
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Review this morning.
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I know it was yesterday,
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but I watched it this morning.
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And first,
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huge shout out to Kat yesterday
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for taking over the lunch show.
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I'm glad that she hopped on
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and kept it going.
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So we had one on Monday.
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I didn't think we would.
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But I think I'm going to start doing that,
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looking for guest hosts to
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pop on so we don't miss a
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day and have someone just
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take it over for the day.
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um rather than like just not
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have one so I I really
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liked it I watched it when
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I got off the plane last
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yesterday and she was
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awesome and if you have not
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been following her catching
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feelings um it was very
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much like that um and I
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thought she did an awesome
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job so let's get into
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dave's week in review
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A couple big highlights that
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came out of it for me.
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And again, I forgot my notes upstairs,
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so I'm doing this off memory.
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Dave announced in the weekend review,
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because of the smaller
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field of thirty and twenty,
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there will be less heats to
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get through during the day.
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And because of that,
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most likely there will not
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be cuts at the CrossFit Games.
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I am not a fan of the cuts.
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I think that there are
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people that can affect the
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scores and leaderboard from
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beginning to end.
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And when you cut,
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you mess that up and it
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makes the comeback nearly
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impossible later in the weekend.
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So I am glad that there are
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no cuts at the CrossFit Games.
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He did not say that was a
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one hundred percent certainty,
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but he said as of this moment,
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there will be no cuts at
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the CrossFit Games.
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He also talked about the
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programming being.
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Nope,
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the programming being eighty percent
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penciled in and that he's
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actually already started testing the.
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the workouts um and so he is
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probably going to dive more
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into the testing aspect of
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the workouts now that
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eighty percent is done uh
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getting ready for that and
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then he went into um denise
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says cut no cuts is good
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news andrew stan no no
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reason for cuts if there's
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only thirty people
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Yeah, I mean,
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he was doing the math kind of
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in his head during the week in review.
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When there's forty athletes,
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that's four heats.
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That's eight heats for the whole thing.
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And then and then you add in
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the three heats of teams.
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That's eleven heats per event.
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Now they're going to be down
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to eight heats per event.
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with um three three sets of
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ten times two and then the
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two heats for the the teams
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so he um there's no reason
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for the cuts you're right
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andrew completely I'm
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having this thing happen
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with my coffee cup where
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the heat from the coffee is
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so high it's popping my lid out
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And it has like a vent hole in there,
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but I don't.
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There it is.
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See,
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like it pops up in the back like that.
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And so I'm trying to have a sit,
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but it just keeps popping off.
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Sarah says,
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in affiliate semifinal workouts
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look painful.
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They do.
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Anything with a thirty minute AMRAP.
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I mean, my God.
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Yeah.
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That just looks brutal.
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But I've never been like a...
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a guy who completely
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understands the programming.
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I try to,
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but when I talk to like Carolyn and Jamie,
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they are so much better at
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looking at programming than
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I am that I'd really just
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defer to their expertise at this point.
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Lex is really good too, Carolyn's wife.
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She is so good at dissecting programming.
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But anyway,
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I think they're really good
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workouts I watched
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hillary's video today going
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through it all and how uh
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it it's really back to like
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a very good crossfit
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overall fitness type
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workout uh for these in
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affiliates and it's really
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going to determine uh who
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appropriate appropriately
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should be going to the games
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And again,
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I'm going to defer to the people
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who understand that much
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better than I do.
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I can look at it and see
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that it has a lot of variety.
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It has a lot of good tests.
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So I'm anxious to see what happens.
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I actually need to get into
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my Heat One app and make my
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picks as to who's going to
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qualify in those eleven positions.
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Now that I've had some time
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to kind of look at the workouts.
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And I highly encourage you
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guys to do the Heat One app.
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It's so much fun,
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and it gives us something
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to talk about on the show for sure.
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So if you're not already,
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go download Heat One app
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and pick your – I think
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there's a game that you
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pick the eleven people you
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think are going to qualify
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on the men's and women's side.
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So I haven't dove into that yet.
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Maybe we'll talk about that
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a little bit tomorrow with
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Corey because I know he
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plays along with that as well.
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So Dave did talk about the running.
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He called it experiment in
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the team series.
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And my only issue with what
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he was talking about is he
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talked about how you would
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hope that six people wouldn't cheat.
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And he went into depth about
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the cheating aspect of the
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run event for the teams.
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But nowhere in that
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conversation did he talk
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about the fairness and
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equity of the running
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workout in the teams.
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As Carolyn pointed out so
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well on Sunday night and
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probably the Sunday night before,
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is that if you're in the
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basement of an affiliate
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and have to run up the stairs,
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or if you're in the middle
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of a city and have to go
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out into traffic to do your run,
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Not everybody's eight
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hundred meters is going to be the same.
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If you're in Canada and it's
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still snowing.
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I mean,
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I was in Montana and there was
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still snow on the ground in
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parts of Montana.
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So I'm sure that if you're up in Canada,
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there are parts that are
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still snow covered.
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And then if you're in Florida,
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you have a nice,
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beautiful day to go run on.
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Or storms come in that
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weekend and you have to run in the rain.
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It just doesn't make it
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equitable for every team.
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Now,
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looking at the list of the twenty
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qualifiers at this point
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that's unofficial, it looks like,
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you know, the big dogs all got in.
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So, it doesn't look like it affected much.
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But who knows?
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The way it sounds,
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it's kind of convoluted
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that Boz says that at the
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conclusion of the event,
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the scores are official.
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And...
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That means unless CrossFit
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initiates a review by requesting a video,
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none of this is going to be
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viewed or reviewed.
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And the twenty that are
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there are the twenty that are getting in.
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So unless CrossFit initiates that.
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That review,
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nothing's going to happen with these.
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So
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I don't know.
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He did explain that the
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reason they did it with
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team is because it affects
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the least amount of people
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to run the experiment,
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which does make sense.
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And speaking of experiments,
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he talked about the online
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video review from the
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Masters and that they've
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already made changes based
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on suggestions.
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And with the affiliate
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qualifier this weekend for
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the individuals,
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if you review the video and
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you give it a thumbs down,
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you have to give a comment as to why.
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That will change everything.
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Um, and without a comment, the down,
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the debt thumbs down will not register.
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So you're going to have to
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give a comment as to why
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you are giving a thumbs
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down to a workout for it to take.
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Uh, Andrew, I don't,
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I think he said it's going
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to start with the individuals.
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Um,
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that they learned from the
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age groups that they need
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to have a comment section.
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So I think it's starting this, well,
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when they conclude on Sunday night,
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and then they start the review on Monday,
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you're going to have to
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have a comment in that
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section moving forward.
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I hope so.
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Because I think it's, if not with the,
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With these athletes,
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it's going to be a lot harder,
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and you're going to need the comment.
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Corey said, good,
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some common sense for once.
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Yeah.
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And if it does happen this week...
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then that is showing me that
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CrossFit is learning from
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past mistakes and making
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the corrections as soon as they can.
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This is not a correction in
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how fitness is tested.
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This is a correction on the
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process and making sure
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that they get it right.
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And it's not affecting
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anybody else but the individuals.
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So if you add that component to it,
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you're not...
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You're not hurting anybody
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else previously or anything like that.
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So I think if you can make the change now,
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make the change now.
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And I think they realized
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that they were reviewing a
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lot of the age groups that
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didn't need reviewed
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because they were getting
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downstroked and there was
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no reason for it.
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And so I think that they're
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looking at it as a savings in their time.
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When they go back to review these,
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they'll see the reasons why,
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and they can make a better
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determination as to what if
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they should or should not
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have to go further with the review.
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So I think that is awesome.
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speaking of some changes
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like in the week in review
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he announced that they
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might they it looks like
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they're going to be
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partnering with ruck race
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usa which I guess dave took
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part into an event um where
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you rocked as far as you
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could in an hour with
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twenty percent of your body
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weight in the ruck um and
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dave took part in that
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And their finals are going
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to be run at the CrossFit Games.
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They're working on a
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partnership with them to do that.
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I think that's awesome.
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Seeing these types of
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partnerships show me a
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change in the willingness
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to work with others.
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They've also announced,
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if you did not see...
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that they are partnering
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with mayhem to do the uh
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everyday heroes or what
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they call the occupational
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games um together as a
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cohesive unit and they're
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going to hold those uh in
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november december
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where you'll do an online
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part portion in your occupation.
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And then in December,
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the top athletes will be
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invited for a competition.
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And I believe that's gonna be at Mayhem.
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And so that includes firefighters,
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educators, first responders, police,
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and CrossFit and Mayhem are
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combining and partnering on that.
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And that to me shows some
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advancement in the thinking
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with CrossFit doing these
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partnerships as opposed to
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trying to do it all themselves.
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So, Howzit says,
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great move from CrossFit HQ
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for partnerships and no cuts.
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Amen to both.
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Jody Lynn says, oh, that's cool.
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It is, it is cool.
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Now mayhem in their version,
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and Carolyn and I were
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talking about this last night,
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mayhem in their version,
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they brought them in and
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they put like all the
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firefighters on one team,
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all the police officers on another team,
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all the medical on another team,
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and then they put them up
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against each other in a competition.
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What she's hoping for as an educator is,
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is that it becomes like just
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an overall competition for
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them to become the best of
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the best with some individual stuff.
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So we don't know the details
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of that because CrossFit was always,
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they named the fittest medical,
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the fittest police officer,
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the fittest military,
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the fittest whatever that might be.
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Mayhem always did this thing
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with a team competition at the end.
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So it's going to be
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interesting to see which
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direction they go in this
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partnership for the final.
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Dan Church,
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I'd love to make the occupational games.
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Just wish they had to show
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proof of employment.
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Well,
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now that it's an in-person competition,
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maybe they do.
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Yeah.
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And then he says, yeah,
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Indy would be more fun, I think.
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Yeah.
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Both of them have their, like,
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as a spectator,
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what I kind of want to see.
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Because I could see, like,
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police wanting to beat fire,
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fire wanting to beat police.
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That's a traditional rivalry
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that's as old as time, right?
23:15
Um,
23:16
so I think that there would be some fun
23:18
in that,
23:19
but when you're not really even
23:20
meeting each other till you
23:21
get there in the space,
23:23
I think it'd be better if
23:26
it was like an individual
23:27
competition and maybe secondarily,
23:30
you keep track of points
23:32
and see how each individual
23:34
occupation is doing,
23:35
but you're competing individually.
23:39
Because you're not made to be a team.
23:40
You're not practicing as a team.
23:44
It would make more sense to
23:45
do it as individual athletes.
23:50
But that's just me kind of
23:51
spitballing off the top of my head.
23:56
So.
23:58
Well, we had.
24:02
We had.
24:04
We had a lot of comments
24:05
from the Sunday night show.
24:07
We had a lot of engagement
24:09
and a lot of people watching Sunday night,
24:11
which was awesome.
24:14
But a couple of comments I
24:15
just wanted to kind of address.
24:17
And I'm getting a lot of
24:18
these either through DMs or
24:20
through YouTube comments
24:23
that Lucy Campbell is going
24:24
to win the CrossFit Games
24:26
or that Lucy Campbell is going to podium.
24:31
And I just want to put...
24:35
I just want to put this out there.
24:37
I love Lucy Campbell.
24:39
If she won the games,
24:40
I would not be heartbroken.
24:41
I would be very, very excited.
24:44
But one thing I've learned
24:45
in watching this sport for
24:47
all the years that I've
24:48
watched this sport is the
24:49
programming leading up to
24:51
the games is very different
24:53
than the programming at the games.
24:55
The programming at other
24:56
competitions like Guadalupe
24:58
is very different than the
24:59
CrossFit games.
25:04
so just because lucy is
25:06
having an awesome season by
25:08
winning wadapalooza by
25:09
winning wadland fest all of
25:12
that stuff it's awesome it
25:16
does not mean that she has
25:19
closed all of her holes at
25:21
the crossfit games now she
25:24
is a former collegiate
25:25
swimmer so the swimming
25:27
aspects if they do that at
25:28
the games she will be fine in but
25:32
where her holes have always
25:33
been is in pure strength.
25:36
If they're odd object strength implements,
25:39
she's probably going to
25:40
struggle more than she has
25:42
in other events leading up to the games.
25:47
So,
25:50
and she has been out of the sport for
25:52
three years because of a wrist injury.
25:55
So it's,
25:57
how is she going to perform on the
25:58
biggest stage with the
25:59
brightest lights and
26:01
Her first time back in three years.
26:03
Now her first games three years ago,
26:04
she won two events.
26:06
So she does have the
26:07
capability of doing some
26:09
big things at the games.
26:10
Winning them is another story.
26:14
Cause I have fallen in love
26:15
with athletes leading up to
26:17
the games and then they get
26:19
there and it's a struggle.
26:22
So I'm just pumping the
26:24
brakes a little bit on Lucy.
26:27
I do think she's a great athlete.
26:29
I do think she's going to be
26:30
fun to watch and she'll
26:32
probably win a few events,
26:35
but to put it all together
26:36
in one package on that
26:37
weekend in a very wide open
26:40
women's division is going
26:42
to be going to be tough.
26:47
And she's going to be
26:50
competing against the best
26:51
field she's ever competed against.
26:54
Wadapalooza is a very
26:55
stacked field generally,
26:57
but it isn't the games.
26:59
Wadland Fest had some good athletes in it.
27:02
It is not the lineup at the games.
27:05
And every second is going to
27:07
matter during those times.
27:09
So...
27:10
could she do it sure just
27:12
saying pump the brakes
27:14
because I've seen a lot of
27:16
people kill kill the lead
27:19
up to the games and when
27:20
they get there it's a
27:21
completely different animal
27:24
so just that um some other
27:28
people make comments about um us kind of
27:35
insinuating that we were
27:36
ripping on Brian Friend for
27:40
his coverage at Wadland Fest.
27:43
In no way was I trying to
27:44
rip on Brian for his coverage.
27:46
I thought he did a great job
27:48
as a one-man crew doing everything.
27:51
And I was trying to point
27:52
out that he was doing everything.
27:54
He was camera operator.
27:55
He was play-by-play.
27:57
He was color commentating.
27:59
He was producing.
28:01
He was directing,
28:03
like trying to do all that on his own.
28:04
And he did a really nice job with it all.
28:08
But all I was saying was,
28:11
I don't want us to settle
28:13
that that is what is
28:15
acceptable moving forward for everything.
28:18
I want the major events to
28:22
have a handful of people
28:25
doing this thing.
28:27
And all I was saying is he
28:28
said on Froning's podcast,
28:30
he can do it for five grand.
28:32
Well,
28:33
maybe charge ten or fifteen grand and
28:36
just add a few more people to the crew.
28:40
just so you have a couple
28:41
more camera angles and
28:42
maybe a second voice.
28:44
So it's not just one voice
28:45
for the entire weekend.
28:47
That was it.
28:48
I'm not trying to rip on Brian.
28:50
I think he did a great job
28:51
and we got to watch it.
28:53
And which lately there are a
28:57
lot of competitions.
28:58
We do not have to,
29:00
we do not get the opportunity to watch.
29:04
So take Brian's name out of it.
29:07
I just think it needs to be
29:08
a production with more than one person.
29:11
So,
29:12
and I've seen a lot of these
29:15
competitions where I go to
29:16
the competition and they
29:18
spend so much money on
29:19
things that don't matter like signage.
29:24
If you're not streaming this
29:25
thing and if you're not and
29:27
nobody gets to see it,
29:28
why are you wasting money on signage?
29:32
when that money could be
29:33
budgeted into like a ten or fifteen grand,
29:36
give to Brian or give to
29:38
Savon or give to Hiller or
29:41
whoever wants to do this
29:43
and let them do a broadcast
29:45
of the event with a handful of people.
29:51
Then when you start doing
29:53
that and people start watching,
29:55
then you can sell advertising,
29:56
you can sell other things
29:57
for this and then the signage matters.
30:02
But if nobody is able to tune in and watch,
30:05
having the coolest looking
30:06
sign does not matter.
30:12
So I'm digging more on the
30:13
event coordinators and the
30:16
way they're budgeting their
30:17
money when the live stream is key,
30:20
as Craig says.
30:24
We have to keep live
30:26
streaming in some way.
30:28
And I was commending Brian
30:30
for the job he did at
30:31
Wildland Fest by himself.
30:35
I just,
30:36
I don't want to be just the five
30:38
grand version, though,
30:40
if you're qualifying for
30:41
the CrossFit Games.
30:42
If you're qualifying for the
30:43
CrossFit Games,
30:45
then we should go with a
30:46
ten or fifteen grand
30:47
version and have a handful
30:49
of people doing it as opposed to one.
30:53
Now, if it's just like, I don't know,
30:58
met metcon rush right it's a
31:01
a smaller comp we're not
31:02
qualifying for the games if
31:05
if brian did that
31:06
production there then it
31:06
would be super cool and I
31:08
would be totally legit cory
31:26
makes a great point
31:28
kind of like legends trying
31:29
to force us to wear their gear,
31:31
even though there wasn't a live stream.
31:34
That just seems ridiculous for me.
31:43
So, exactly.
31:47
And then,
31:49
you probably don't get the
31:52
partnership with the
31:55
wear company the apparel
31:57
company because you're not
31:58
live streaming you could
32:02
sell a you could sell them
32:03
more on their sponsorship
32:06
if you were streaming your
32:08
competition with their and
32:11
forcing the athletes to
32:12
wear the gear then it makes
32:14
sense and dan church says
32:18
he is going to broadcast
32:19
metconrush watch me on that
32:21
one I definitely will dance
32:26
Um,
32:28
but that's what I'm trying to like for
32:30
Metcon rush for these
32:33
competitions that aren't, um,
32:35
fittest to the coast.
32:37
Like his, his footage for there was great.
32:40
Um, but I use the example of like when he,
32:43
when he went to Dubai,
32:45
he actually had Lucy
32:46
Campbell with him in Dubai
32:47
and you got two voices.
32:49
You got Lucy and him.
32:50
It just changes things up.
32:52
Dubai is a little bit bigger
32:54
than Metcon rush.
32:55
So it makes sense to bring
32:57
in more people for that.
32:58
Maybe charge a little bit
33:00
more for that so that we
33:01
can get a different coverage.
33:04
That's all I was saying.
33:09
Be nice if Monster Games had a stream.
33:13
Again,
33:13
Monster Games isn't qualifying
33:14
anybody for the games.
33:16
Like a five grand stream of
33:18
Brian walking around with a
33:20
gimbal is cool.
33:21
At least we get to watch it.
33:27
That is a viable option.
33:29
But I've tried to do what Brian's done.
33:32
We broadcast probably five
33:37
to ten heats at the Green
33:39
Beret Project event a few years ago,
33:42
and I walked the floor with a gimbal.
33:44
And Charlie and Amy were
33:46
watching and trying to
33:48
provide play by play and
33:50
color while I was walking
33:51
around on the floor.
33:53
Cause I couldn't hear myself talk.
33:55
It was so loud in there that
33:56
I could not have provided
33:58
any kind of commentary
33:59
while I was walking.
34:00
So the fact that he's able
34:01
to do that with the
34:02
equipment he has again,
34:05
totally commend him for that.
34:10
Cause I've tried, it is really,
34:11
really hard.
34:15
But I'll tell you,
34:16
just with me walking around,
34:18
a lot of families wrote
34:19
into us and really
34:20
appreciated that they got
34:21
to see their kid or their
34:23
sister or their wife or
34:24
their husband compete when
34:27
they weren't going to get
34:28
that opportunity to make it
34:30
to Delaware to watch them.
34:33
So, yeah.
34:38
Yeah.
34:40
I just wanted to talk about
34:41
that because I'm not digging on Brian,
34:44
and I know that everybody's
34:45
piling on Brian right now.
34:47
I was trying not to on Sunday night.
34:50
I didn't want to be part of the herd.
34:54
I wanted to commend him for the job he did,
34:56
but also say, hey, dude,
34:58
ask for some more money and
34:59
bring in somebody to help
35:00
you on these bigger events.
35:05
That's all.
35:12
I think that's really all I
35:15
had on my rundown.
35:18
Um,
35:21
I still want to look into all the
35:23
things that met fix are offering.
35:25
Um, so later this week,
35:27
cause we talked about that Sunday night.
35:29
Um, um,
35:36
And because I did have like
35:37
a mini rant on Sunday night
35:39
about that we're ripping on
35:42
WFP for competing against
35:43
CrossFit when saying they weren't.
35:45
When Metfix,
35:46
when Greg was on Savan's show
35:48
and said they weren't
35:49
competing with CrossFit,
35:50
they wanted to work in tandem with it.
35:52
And now they're doing their
35:53
own affiliates and doing a
35:55
workout of the day and such.
35:57
So I want to dig into that
35:58
more now that I'm home and
36:01
talk about that more this week.
36:02
So maybe we'll get to that
36:03
Thursday or Friday.
36:08
again I am all for
36:09
competition competition
36:11
makes the world a better
36:12
place because it forces
36:14
everybody to do better when
36:17
you have competition you
36:18
have to be better so um so
36:24
there uh jonathan ortega
36:27
but if brian does a live
36:28
stream everybody talks crap crazy sauce
36:33
I really enjoyed his coverage.
36:35
I was able to watch the
36:37
event when in otherwise I
36:39
would not be able to.
36:41
So I was glad he had done it.
36:45
All I'm saying is now we've
36:48
learned how to do it in a
36:49
really good way.
36:51
Let's step it up to like a
36:52
little bit more for the big events.
36:58
the bigger events if you're
36:59
qualifying people for the
37:00
games people are going to
37:02
tune in maybe have two
37:04
voices and a couple extra
37:05
cameras that's it but ask
37:07
for more money um these if
37:10
you're partnering with
37:11
crossfit you should have to
37:13
do a live stream and there
37:15
needs to be a requirement
37:16
that you do it and at least
37:18
at this level and I think
37:24
that crossfit should mandate that
37:33
With that, that's really all I have today.
37:37
Again,
37:38
huge thank you to Kat for running
37:39
the show yesterday.
37:41
Actually, taking over the show yesterday.
37:43
She did an awesome job.
37:46
So glad she's having success
37:48
with her show.
37:49
And we'll keep having her come in,
37:53
do some takeovers every now
37:55
and then to talk to you guys about
38:04
So Jenny jumps in Ortega.
38:08
That's not true.
38:09
We were very objective about
38:10
Brian stream and said he did well.
38:12
I think everybody said he did well.
38:17
I think what all I was
38:19
asking for is if you're again,
38:22
I know I'm repeating myself
38:23
over and over again.
38:24
If you are qualifying people
38:26
to the CrossFit games,
38:27
let's take it one step up.
38:30
That's all.
38:36
yeah and jody clarifies the
38:39
most upper in the chat
38:40
sunday night was whether
38:41
brian got paid or not that
38:42
is correct nobody said
38:44
anything about the actual
38:45
production of his live
38:46
stream there was just some
38:49
comments in the chat about
38:51
um about whether he got
38:55
paid or not and I don't really care um
39:00
Again,
39:01
I've tried to do it at smaller
39:02
competitions, what he does,
39:04
and he should get paid
39:06
something for doing that.
39:07
It is very, very hard.
39:09
And Jenny says, I agree.
39:10
CrossFit should want to
39:11
contribute to the stream success.
39:13
They should.
39:14
And I don't think they need
39:15
to get intimately involved,
39:16
but just require that you
39:17
have to have this minimal
39:19
level of stream if we're
39:20
going to give you tickets
39:23
to hand to people to the CrossFit Games.
39:28
You need to meet this
39:29
minimum level of streaming of your event.
39:39
And we're going to see a
39:39
couple options of that in
39:40
the upcoming weeks.
39:41
You know,
39:42
we saw what Brian did as a solo person.
39:44
We're going to see what the
39:45
Savon group does with Syndicate Crown.
39:48
And I think they're doing NorCal too.
39:51
So we're going to get a
39:51
couple different options of
39:53
different streaming types and flavors.
39:58
And I'm excited for it all.
40:00
And I just want us to come
40:01
up with the best options
40:02
possible moving forward
40:05
that are affordable because
40:06
it is ridiculous that may
40:07
have had to pay two hundred
40:08
grand for their for their stream.
40:15
That just was insane.
40:25
So Vaughn is going to crush syndicate.
40:27
He mentioned this morning, though,
40:28
he may charge for the live stream.
40:32
I don't have a problem with that,
40:33
but I know a lot of people will.
40:37
I look at it this way.
40:39
If I go see a movie at the
40:41
movie theater and I take my wife with me,
40:44
I'm paying twenty bucks
40:46
just for the movie.
40:48
And then I'm going to if I
40:49
get popcorn and a drink,
40:51
I'm paying thirty five
40:52
bucks for two hours of entertainment.
40:57
if I joined Savant's channel
40:59
to watch a behind the
41:00
scenes or to watch a stream,
41:03
I'm paying twenty bucks a
41:04
month and I'm getting way
41:05
more than the two hours of
41:07
entertainment for a movie.
41:11
And.
41:12
You know,
41:13
being a content creator in this
41:14
space for the last five years,
41:16
this doesn't come without
41:18
work and hard work and.
41:23
And so what
41:26
I try to support channels
41:29
financially that I can, that I watch,
41:32
and that I use for content myself.
41:38
So...
41:42
And this is a good topic for
41:43
later in the week.
41:44
We'll probably talk about
41:45
this later this week
41:47
because I really believe
41:49
that what Rogue did to have,
41:51
they had a basic live
41:53
stream for free and they
41:54
had an enhanced live stream
41:56
for twenty five bucks for the weekend.
41:58
And I pay that twenty five
41:59
dollars every year and I
42:01
would do it every year
42:02
because it is so good.
42:05
What they put out is so good
42:06
and so worth that twenty
42:07
five bucks that and it's so
42:10
innovative and they keep
42:11
trying new things.
42:13
I would pay that twenty five
42:14
dollars every single time.
42:24
Meredith says, just joining the convo,
42:26
if they want this sport to
42:27
become professional,
42:28
it's in HQ's best interest
42:30
to provide a stipend to
42:31
each semi to at least have
42:33
a baseline stream.
42:37
Or if you want to play,
42:39
you have to do this minimum level.
42:42
Nobody's forcing these
42:43
events to be the partner
42:45
with the CrossFit Games.
42:50
And
42:53
And if it's just a base
42:55
level stream and you can
42:57
get Brian or Siobhan to
42:59
come out and do it for X
43:00
number of dollars, that's fine.
43:02
If you're rich and you want
43:03
to pay for the full
43:05
production truck version,
43:07
that's fine too.
43:08
But there needs to be a
43:09
minimum level of what it is.
43:16
Aaron says he also said
43:17
voluntary and Ken says it's
43:19
only at one ninety nine.
43:26
Jonathan says,
43:27
do you think CrossFit
43:28
doesn't provide that
43:28
stipend because they would
43:29
rather you show up in
43:31
person and not be at home on your couch?
43:39
I don't know.
43:41
I don't know if that's the
43:42
way to even think about it.
43:47
The experience of watching a
43:48
CrossFit event in person
43:50
and the experience of
43:50
watching on a couch are two
43:52
different things.
43:54
And there are going to be
43:54
people that want to do one
43:56
and maybe not the other and vice versa.
43:59
So I don't think that just because, I mean,
44:02
the NFL for years blacked
44:03
out games because they
44:05
wanted people to come to
44:06
them as opposed to watch them.
44:08
But where's all the money in the NFL now?
44:11
The money in the NFL is not
44:12
on ticket sales.
44:14
The money in the NFL is in TV rights.
44:23
That's how they make their money.
44:25
Billions and billions and
44:26
billions of dollars in TV rights,
44:29
not in ticket sales to the games.
44:32
That's just an added bonus at this point.
44:38
So I think that if you're
44:40
looking at it that way,
44:41
it's short-sighted because
44:43
if you look at the history
44:44
of sports and blacking out games on TV,
44:48
it has never really worked
44:50
the way they wanted it to.
44:53
I think you give people both
44:55
options and you make both
44:57
options attractive enough
44:59
that the people that want
45:00
to do one can do that and
45:02
the people that want to do
45:03
the other can do that.
45:06
So.
45:11
And tape delay.
45:13
Those other sports have tried tape delay.
45:15
It does not work.
45:16
Live sports have to be
45:17
watched live or it's not as entertaining.
45:25
And Aaron, I don't think they care.
45:28
I think Wilson Pack cares.
45:30
I think Rich Froning cared.
45:32
I think that the people at
45:33
Wadland Fest cared.
45:36
But I don't think CrossFit
45:37
cares if people show up or not.
45:46
And Meredith says, if that's the case,
45:47
then HQ needs to be
45:48
realistic about who can show up versus...
45:51
Versus rather than watching on the couch.
45:53
I live in California and
45:54
going to Knoxville is not an option.
45:57
Right.
45:59
Again, I have,
46:04
I've screamed from the
46:05
mountaintop that CrossFit
46:07
has never learned from other sports.
46:10
And I know that they keep
46:11
saying we're a niche sport
46:12
and we're smaller and we're blah, blah,
46:14
blah.
46:15
But all these streams go out and there's,
46:18
there's no advertising on it at all.
46:21
That is a revenue stream
46:22
that has never been tapped
46:23
in the CrossFit space.
46:26
I think Mayhem did it a
46:27
little where they would do
46:30
live shots from a booth in
46:31
Vendor Village.
46:33
And I thought that that was
46:34
like a step forward in
46:36
trying to get some revenue
46:38
on a live stream.
46:39
But again,
46:40
I think you have to do both live
46:42
and stream live.
46:45
Because there are people
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that want both types.
46:49
And Meredith is correct.
46:51
There are people in Europe
46:52
who want to watch Syndicate Crown.
46:55
That's not realistic for
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them to fly into the United
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States to watch Syndicate Crown.
47:00
It's not realistic for her
47:01
to fly from California to watch it.
47:04
Heck, with my budget this year,
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I have to be very limited
47:07
in what I can get to.
47:10
I can't fly to california I
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can't fly to tfx and do all
47:15
this stuff at this back to
47:17
back to back so ken walters
47:25
major sports leagues tv
47:26
rights and licensing is the
47:28
money greg was for saving
47:30
lives and turned down
47:31
millions in both tv and
47:33
merch license yeah they had
47:36
their shot at major tv money in
47:41
And that is when Greg
47:42
stripped it down to what he
47:44
wanted it to be.
47:46
And that is the methodology
47:48
and the videos on the couch
47:49
with the blue jugs of water.
47:52
And that's what we got.
47:58
So.
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Aaron Frazier says,
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grow the affiliates and
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members to grow the sport.
48:10
I think there's so many
48:10
different ways to grow the sport.
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So many different ways.
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There's no one answer.
48:16
There's no one answer,
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but these are topics for
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another day because I've
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got to get back to work guys.
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And so do you.
48:25
So you knuckleheads get back to work.
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Lunchtime is over.
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I'll see everybody next time
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on Lunch with the Clydesdale.
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Bye, guys.