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195: Testing Beats Guessing: A Scientist's Approach to Marketing with Brian Massey

Brian Massey, founder of Conversion Sciences, joins Craig Andrews to unpack the power of leadership through rigorous experimentation. Known as the "Conversion Scientist," Brian has spent over 15 years transforming how businesses approach their websites—moving from guesswork to data-backed results.

In this conversation, Brian breaks down why most companies treat their websites like static brochures and how that mindset kills performance. He explains his framework for the five types of websites and why identifying your type is the first leadership step in digital strategy.

Brian also dives into…

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