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Ohio State Football Insider: 4 Things We Learned From Matt Patricia · Buckeyes TomOrrow Morning

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Buckeyes Tomorrow morning for Friday, March twenty seventh
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  Speaker 1: Joined by Tony Gerdifand of Buckehuddle dot com. Here inside
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  Speaker 1: the Rudiyes Athletics, anarchist Buckeyes wrapped up practice number four
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  Speaker 1: of the spring.
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  Speaker 2: We got a chance to talk to four buck Eyes.
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  Speaker 1: It was offense Day on Tuesday, it was Defense Day
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  Speaker 1: on Thursday. Get a chance to talk to new defensive
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  Speaker 1: tackle James Smith, who will talk about him on the
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  Speaker 1: Buckeye Weekly podcast. But I think going to be a
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  Speaker 1: fan favorite around Columbus Ohio for both on and all
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  Speaker 1: field reasons. Also Jermaine Matthews, also Garrett Stover. But what
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  Speaker 1: we're gonna be talking about on this show is defensive
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  Speaker 1: coordinator matt Patricia and Patricia back for year two year
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  Speaker 1: one was historically one of the greatest defenses in Ohio
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  Speaker 1: state history, and so of course the questions.
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  Speaker 2: About the stuff that they didn't do. They didn't turn
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  Speaker 2: the ball over a lot.
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  Speaker 1: They didn't maybe create as much as many havoc plays
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  Speaker 1: asm other teams in the nation.
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  Speaker 2: And this is always a balancing act, you know.
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  Speaker 1: I think when Jim Knowles Season one, I think people
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  Speaker 1: felt like he was too far in the other direction there.
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  Speaker 1: And now the question is was Natt and Trisha, you know,
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  Speaker 1: were they too sound on defense? Should they be a
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  Speaker 1: little more reckless in pursuit of maybe some more havoc plays.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm picturing like this being NASCAR or something where
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  Speaker 3: you got to be a little bit dangerous to win
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  Speaker 3: a race. You can't just you know, keep it at
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  Speaker 3: fifty five the entire time. But slow and steady. You
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  Speaker 3: can't say slow and study about their higher state defense
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  Speaker 3: now because as I said, you like, we're going to
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  Speaker 3: be aggressive, but there is a give and take. Ryan
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  Speaker 3: Day talked about that a couple of weeks ago, like
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  Speaker 3: how aggressive do you want to be?
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  Speaker 1: People?
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  Speaker 3: People love the aggressive defense. They didn't love it in
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  Speaker 3: twenty twenty one when things were going really really bad.
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  Speaker 3: And then what knowles came in twenty twenty two, which
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  Speaker 3: then also like they bake in five explosive plays. Well,
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  Speaker 3: we're okay giving up five explosive plays because we'll get
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  Speaker 3: it back through our aggression. And they gave up so
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  Speaker 3: many fifty and sixty yard plays. And so, yes, you
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  Speaker 3: want the aggressive defense if it doesn't hurt you, But
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  Speaker 3: at what point is do you want that does that
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  Speaker 3: aggression hurt you to give you out give up the
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  Speaker 3: final the game costing touchdown, But also does your lack
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  Speaker 3: of aggression keep you from making the plays that win
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  Speaker 3: one of those final two games? And then more so
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  Speaker 3: I think that's that's the argument. Whenever you aren't good
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  Speaker 3: enough and the defense will tell you we weren't good enough,
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  Speaker 3: then there's like, well, what else could you have done?
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  Speaker 3: Could you have been more aggressive? Because that's about the
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  Speaker 3: one thing that they didn't do and RVEL Reese very
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  Speaker 3: disruptive over the first half the season, not really disruptive
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  Speaker 3: over the second half of the season. Could you have
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  Speaker 3: done more there? So there's certainly all of that. The
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  Speaker 3: good news is for everybody r VL Reese has gone,
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  Speaker 3: so they don't have to worry about it if they
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  Speaker 3: be more aggressive.
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  Speaker 1: Famous problem child to rvel Res oh some for NFL
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  Speaker 1: team and going to uh yeah, he was, Uh, you
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  Speaker 1: have seen that.
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  Speaker 2: You have seen the discourse around arvl Ries.
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  Speaker 1: Certainly this week you will probably hear r Valrie's name
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  Speaker 1: called pretty early in the NFL draft. But the buck
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  Speaker 1: Eyes have you know, Buck guys have a lot of players,
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  Speaker 1: three guys at least on the defense who are probably
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  Speaker 1: in a year their names called in the first ten
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  Speaker 1: picks or so, and then another and Kateen McDonald probably
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  Speaker 1: later in the first round.
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  Speaker 2: But that's a lot of talent to replace. And so
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  Speaker 2: this year Matt Patricia had talked about, you know, all
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  Speaker 2: the all the new.
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  Speaker 1: Guys, but last year he was all these veteran guys,
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  Speaker 1: but everything was new, you know, they were installing the
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  Speaker 1: defense basically from the square one. This year you got
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  Speaker 1: a bunch of new faces, but also the half of
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  Speaker 1: the team that is back has a little bit of
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  Speaker 1: a head start.
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  Speaker 2: So this is a little bit of a different spring
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  Speaker 2: for him.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, because last year the new the new guys were
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  Speaker 3: fourth and fifth year seniors where they'd they'd been they
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  Speaker 3: know what Ohio State is. This year, not only are
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  Speaker 3: you teaching the defense, but you're eaching the Ohio State
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  Speaker 3: football as well. So then you do you just take
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  Speaker 3: these pieces that you've gotten and try to be like, Okay, no,
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  Speaker 3: bur a little, you're Klea Downs. Now, Terry Moore, you're this,
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  Speaker 3: and you can't. You know, he said, throughout his entire career,
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  Speaker 3: you always suit your scheme to your talent and what
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  Speaker 3: they can do. That's going to be no different here.
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  Speaker 3: If they have somebody that can do what r vl
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  Speaker 3: Reese did off ball on ball, I said, We're not
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  Speaker 3: really to that point right now. We're just fundamentals at
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  Speaker 3: spring practice four day two in pads. We're not concerned
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  Speaker 3: about let's we've got to find somebody that can do
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  Speaker 3: or r val ree did. This is just about fundamentals,
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  Speaker 3: but also learning what each of these guys can do.
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  Speaker 1: I thought that was a really interesting conversation where he
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  Speaker 1: was talking about sort of the balanced between installing scheme
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  Speaker 1: stuff versus doing fundamentals, and.
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  Speaker 2: He talked about it in the context of the fact
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  Speaker 2: that they're already in pads.
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  Speaker 1: This is earlier than in NFL OTA kind of season
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  Speaker 1: you would typically be in pads. That's sort of his
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  Speaker 1: baseline because they're in pads right now. That sort of
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  Speaker 1: drives a little bit, you know, much like the talent
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  Speaker 1: on your team is going to drive what you're doing
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  Speaker 1: as a defensive court, you know, in terms of scheme
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  Speaker 1: and what the calendar looks like and what you know,
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  Speaker 1: what the guys are and aren't able to do, kind
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  Speaker 1: of drives what you're working on in practice.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, And it's also about building confidence. He talked about
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  Speaker 3: that with Christian Legro where you know, you've got this
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  Speaker 3: guy that has played off ball and then also on ball.
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  Speaker 3: How are you doing that right now? And you don't
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  Speaker 3: want to give them too much. You just want them
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  Speaker 3: to get confident at each thing that you're doing. Make
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  Speaker 3: sure they're doing it right. So I'm not skipping steps
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  Speaker 3: because this is the time you Tom, I've I'm the
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  Speaker 3: only person that ever says this. You can't win a
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  Speaker 3: national title in spring, but you can lose it.
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  Speaker 2: That's interesting.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, think about that. You should think about that.
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  Speaker 2: You should put that on T shirt because I've never
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  Speaker 2: heard that before.
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  Speaker 3: Everyone, you know, this is a time for just the
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  Speaker 3: learning aspect of it and the instantly the game plan
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  Speaker 3: is many many many months away and you just want
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  Speaker 3: them doing things correctly so that the technique is there
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  Speaker 3: when it's time to really get.
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  Speaker 1: Going, and that kind of focus on details. He talked
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  Speaker 1: about his time with the Patriots and when he's up
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  Speaker 1: there in Boston. He you know, you are if you
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  Speaker 1: are one of the pro teams, one of the major
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  Speaker 1: league teams in Boston, you sort of are traveling in
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  Speaker 1: the same circles as some of the other teams. So
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  Speaker 1: he talked about stuff that he talked about with Doc Rivers,
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  Speaker 1: the former Boston Celtics coach.
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  Speaker 2: He said Rivers said, quote, don't let.
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  Speaker 1: Good get in the way of great, and that's something
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  Speaker 1: that he's sort of taking to heart this year with
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  Speaker 1: year two, where it's like, wow, they were we were
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  Speaker 1: pretty good at last year, And you know, that kind
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  Speaker 1: of approach, I think is a way to try and
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  Speaker 1: get away from the complacency.
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  Speaker 2: Then I'm sure, you know, it's probably not too you know,
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  Speaker 2: you're probably it's probably harder to get.
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  Speaker 1: Complacent when you have fifty one new faces on the team.
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  Speaker 1: But also that's kind of got to be the approach.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think one of the good things is
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  Speaker 3: there's good leadership on this team to keep that from happening,
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  Speaker 3: talking with Garrett Stover, talking with Brandon edis this week
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  Speaker 3: about and we'll talk more about that on Bucket Weekly,
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  Speaker 3: but just you've got players here that are wanting to
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  Speaker 3: set the tone for all of the new players, which
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  Speaker 3: helps the coaches out immensely. And the way that Matt
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  Speaker 3: Patricia talks about teaching and the way that players want
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  Speaker 3: to learn and you've got players that want to learn
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  Speaker 3: reminds me of what Sonny Styles said this time last year,
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  Speaker 3: where it's just so easy to learn from Matt Patricia.
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  Speaker 3: So if you've got players that are wanting to learn
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  Speaker 3: and willing to learn, and you've got a great teacher,
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  Speaker 3: I mean, that's that's chocolate and peanut butter right there.
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  Speaker 1: And one of the players who does want to learn
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  Speaker 1: a lot from him is James Smith, and we will
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  Speaker 1: talk about him in more detail, but Matt Patricia talked
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  Speaker 1: about him just some early impressions, and James Smith had
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  Speaker 1: some glowing things to say about Matt Patricia, which is
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  Speaker 1: almost you know, status quo, that's almost dog bites man.
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  Speaker 2: At this point in this building, he.
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  Speaker 3: Saw it with their arms around each other, They're like
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  Speaker 3: waiting to talk to me to media.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but you know, talked about Jamesif being a great player.
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  Speaker 1: Bright gravitates towards football, wants to be great, wants to improves,
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  Speaker 1: knows the standard, And.
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  Speaker 2: I thought this was interesting. Holds people accountable to the standard.
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  Speaker 1: That's pretty early to be the guy who's already kind
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  Speaker 1: of cracking the whip a little bit button. You come
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  Speaker 1: from a program like Alabama, and even though it wasn't
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  Speaker 1: Nick Saban's Alabama the last couple of years, there is
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  Speaker 1: still an expectation there. So thought that was that was interesting.
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  Speaker 1: The only other thing was Joe Kim, the new pass
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  Speaker 1: rush sort of assistant for the defensive line.
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  Speaker 2: That is a new face in this building.
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  Speaker 1: And because they don't have, you know, quite the limitations
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  Speaker 1: on assistant coaches, they can bring you whoever they want
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  Speaker 1: to do. This is another guy like Patricia someone whom
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  Speaker 1: Patricia nw from the NFL, who comes in with that
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  Speaker 1: NFL background and is going to just bring a little
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  Speaker 1: something different to the defensive line.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, you don't want Jiminy Cooks in the kitchen,
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  Speaker 3: but you want somebody that Larry Johnson wants to enhance
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  Speaker 3: the toolbox that he doesn't he give all of those
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  Speaker 3: defensive lineman tools to put in their tool toolbox and
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  Speaker 3: on their tool belt and whatever tool analogy you want
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  Speaker 3: to use. You know why limit that? And Joe Kim
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  Speaker 3: has different techniques and things that he does that are
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  Speaker 3: different than what you've seen maybe in the past. But
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  Speaker 3: you also see all kinds of handwork from Larry Johnson,
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  Speaker 3: so this only enhances that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, he said, he brings a little level of expertise
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  Speaker 1: to the line. Lots of combat drilled in hand to
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  Speaker 1: hand and then applying that to the violence of the game.
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  Speaker 1: He said, the violence of the game up front totally
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  Speaker 1: different in the NFL than in college. This is about
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  Speaker 1: not only preparing the guys in the trenches for the
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  Speaker 1: violence and the you know, the physical play at the
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  Speaker 1: college level, but also you know, hey, you're about to
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  Speaker 1: take a step up to another level whenever you go.
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  Speaker 2: Shake Roger Goodell's hand, so sort of preparing them for
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  Speaker 2: that as well. So there you go a quick breakdown
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  Speaker 2: of some of the things we learned.
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  Speaker 1: Talking to Matt Patricia on Thursday, we have a we'll
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  Speaker 1: have a whole separate show on the Buckeye Weekly podcast
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  Speaker 1: feed talking about some of the stuff from the players again,
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  Speaker 1: James Smith. You are going to like James Smith quite
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  Speaker 1: a bit, I think, on the field and off the field.
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  Speaker 1: We'll talk about him all there, and we'll talk about
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