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Between The Pipes: Adrian Denny on the Stanley Cup Playoffs, Vegas upsetting the Avs + more · The Sean O'Connell Show

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  Speaker 1: You tuned to the Sean o'connells Show for the Murdoch
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  Speaker 2: M two thousand and seven Patriots, the twenty sixteen Warriors,
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  Speaker 2: the Oh seven MAVs, the twenty twenty four Kansas City Chiefs,
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  Speaker 2: the twenty twenty six Colorado Avalanche, best team in the
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  Speaker 2: league in the regular season, and now for the thirteenth
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  Speaker 2: straight year that team in the Stanley Cup playoffs fails
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  Speaker 2: to advance to the final. Colorado eliminated in a four
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  Speaker 2: game sweep at the hands of the Vegas Golden Knights
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  Speaker 2: last night in Las Vegas Wild two to one. Took
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  Speaker 2: an empty netter really cool deflection goal by Landeskog to
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  Speaker 2: get to within two to one under two minutes left,
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  Speaker 2: but Vegas able to close it out and they are
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  Speaker 2: headed to the Stanley Cup Final against either Montreal or Carolina,
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  Speaker 2: who will play their game six tonight, which you could
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  Speaker 2: listen to right here on ESPN seven hundred and ninety
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  Speaker 2: two one FM. We're talking hockey with our Mammoth and
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  Speaker 2: NHL insider Adrian Denny.
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  Speaker 1: As we go between the pipes, Hey Adrian, how are you.
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  Speaker 3: Hey, Sean, thanks for having me back after last week.
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  Speaker 3: At this time, we were getting ready for the Western
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  Speaker 3: Conference Finals with the Abs and Vegas Golden Knights hadn't
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  Speaker 3: even started the series. And now it's over. It's done,
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  Speaker 3: And I didn't have any of that. I don't think
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  Speaker 3: anybody else did. I was looking at reporter predictions from
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  Speaker 3: The Athletic. Twenty eight to twenty nine reporters had Colorado
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  Speaker 3: winning the series. ESPN got the same, twenty one to
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  Speaker 3: twenty four had Colorado winning the series. Steve Levy and
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  Speaker 3: PK Suban two that had Vegas by the way. So
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  Speaker 3: I guess, don't beat myself up too bad. But holy
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  Speaker 3: cal folks, listen last week, they're listening now. They're like
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  Speaker 3: they brought back the guy that doesn't know anything about hockey.
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  Speaker 1: Here he is.
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  Speaker 2: If that's how it is, then there's that means a
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  Speaker 2: lot of people don't know anything about hockey. But no,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, look, there's a tendency to look at the
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  Speaker 2: regular season that Colorado had and I was I mean,
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  Speaker 2: I called them probably for weeks on this show, the
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  Speaker 2: presumed or the eventual Stanley Cup champions I've been talking
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  Speaker 2: about the Winter Classic coming next year, and every time saying, hey,
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  Speaker 2: Colorado might be the defending champs when you play them
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  Speaker 2: next New Year's New Year's Eve, I should say, And
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  Speaker 2: it just didn't play out that way, and it played it.
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  Speaker 2: They went out with such a whimper in this series,
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  Speaker 2: getting swept four games to none. It makes a question
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  Speaker 2: like what went wrong? Not in a oh, well, good
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  Speaker 2: on Vegas type of way, but like that epic of
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  Speaker 2: a collapse for Colorado really is hard to figure out.
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  Speaker 1: Beyond the injuries.
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  Speaker 3: Hockey just always seems to fool Yeah, right, like you
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  Speaker 3: just said it coming into the segment, The team with
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  Speaker 3: the best record in the NHL in the regular season
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  Speaker 3: hasn't won the Stanley Cup since Detroit in two thousand
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  Speaker 3: and eight, So it's not common playoffs are you know
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  Speaker 3: a different story. But I don't know. When Colorado was
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  Speaker 3: thirty one to two and seven, I didn't I didn't
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  Speaker 3: see anybody beating him. They were manhandling everybody. And then
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  Speaker 3: they fall behind three to zero after they had that
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  Speaker 3: three nothing lead on Sunday night, and it just seemed
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  Speaker 3: like they were down, they were deflated, they were done
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  Speaker 3: playing Vegas. They knew it was over. We saw it
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  Speaker 3: from Anaheim in Game six. We saw it from Utah
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  Speaker 3: in Game six against Vegas, like Okay, we're done, we're
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  Speaker 3: out of here, that we are done, we're tired of
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  Speaker 3: dealing with this and we're moving We're moving on. And
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  Speaker 3: for Colorado it kind of sunk in a little earlier
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  Speaker 3: than it did with with Utah and Anaheim and oh see,
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  Speaker 3: after that game they're down three to OHO. And when
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  Speaker 3: a team goes down three to oh you see all
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  Speaker 3: the all the numbers and the chances in the NHL,
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  Speaker 3: four times in history as a team erase a three
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  Speaker 3: zero devisit to win a series. In the NBA, it's
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  Speaker 3: never happened. But you remember two years ago, Edmonton falls
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  Speaker 3: down three oh to Florida in the Stanley Cup Final
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  Speaker 3: and their head coach, Chris Nablock gets gets on the
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  Speaker 3: podium and says, I'm really looking forward to the next
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  Speaker 3: ten days. And they won three in a row, they
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  Speaker 3: got to game seven. There was none of that from Colorado.
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  Speaker 3: They just they just seemed they just seemed over it.
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  Speaker 3: They seemed resigned to a fact that it was over
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  Speaker 3: third period last night like that. The body language and
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  Speaker 3: you hear people that were down reporting in the bench
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  Speaker 3: areas you know nationally saying gosh, there was a difference
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  Speaker 3: between the Vegas bench the Colorado bench. Vegas bench was going,
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  Speaker 3: Colorado bench was was quiet. And there's there's factors. Again,
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  Speaker 3: you watch Nathan McKinnon Cam McCarry, you can tell the
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  Speaker 3: two best players are not even close to being there,
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  Speaker 3: but to get swept well.
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  Speaker 2: In between mid second period and mid third period last night,
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  Speaker 2: there was a twenty five minute stretch of hockey where
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  Speaker 2: the Colorado Avalanche had two shots. They were not able
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  Speaker 2: to possess the puck in their own offensive zone. They
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  Speaker 2: weren't able to get it through the neutral zone at
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  Speaker 2: all Vegas. It's like Vegas just decided we're just not
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  Speaker 2: We're not letting them get started at all in this game. Now,
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  Speaker 2: of course every team wants to make a decision like that,
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  Speaker 2: but the execution of it was pretty incredible for Vegas
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  Speaker 2: as well. And Colorado looked like a completely different team
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  Speaker 2: than the one that we saw the Utah Mammoth play
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  Speaker 2: several times this year. They just they didn't look like
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  Speaker 2: the same team that you saw on television, that you
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  Speaker 2: saw in the last series, and you got to assume
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  Speaker 2: there's a health element to it, obviously, but it's not
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  Speaker 2: only that, because one thing that you have taught me,
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  Speaker 2: that we have learned watching these NHL playoffs and watching
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  Speaker 2: hockey for these last couple of years a lot more closely,
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  Speaker 2: is that you cannot be a team that only depends
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  Speaker 2: on your top line. You cannot be a team that
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  Speaker 2: only depends on your stars in the NHL because it's
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  Speaker 2: not like NBA basketball. It's way different than NFL football.
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  Speaker 2: Your stars are obviously massively important and they're gonna make
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  Speaker 2: big plays for you, but your stars don't play really
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  Speaker 2: a large margin, a significantly larger margin of minutes than
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  Speaker 2: the rank and file on your team. Then the depth
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  Speaker 2: on your team. Your third line has to be able
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  Speaker 2: to do something, your second line has to be able
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  Speaker 2: to do something for you. And Colorado got none of
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  Speaker 2: that from those guys. Vegas did last night. They got
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  Speaker 2: they got a goal, the.
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  Speaker 1: Two zero goal was from the fourth line. Vegas got that.
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  Speaker 3: Colorado didn't exact opposite of the Colorado and Minnesota series.
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  Speaker 3: When we were sitting here talking about, oh, Colorado was
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  Speaker 3: was just stacked. They were they were getting stuff from
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  Speaker 3: their third liners, their fourth liners, there their fifth and
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  Speaker 3: sixth d and there was just nothing. The Ads scored
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  Speaker 3: the most goals in the NHL during the regular season.
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  Speaker 3: They were over four game for most of the year.
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  Speaker 3: They scored seven goals in four games. Martin Nachius and
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  Speaker 3: Nathan McKinnon, two guys that had over one hundred points
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  Speaker 3: during the regular season, both held to to assist in
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  Speaker 3: four games. And when we were talking about this series, Okay,
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  Speaker 3: if Vegas is going to have a chance, what do
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  Speaker 3: they do? How do they do it? And for me,
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  Speaker 3: it was shut down the top players of Colorado McKinnon,
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  Speaker 3: Nchus and Gabe Laniskog, like they did against Anaheim, like
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  Speaker 3: they did in spurts against Utah. There were games where Keller, Smalton,
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  Speaker 3: Kraus were held off the board and then they moved
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  Speaker 3: on to Kooley, Gunther and Yamamota. But Vegas in this
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  Speaker 3: playoffs did a great job of mowing through the West
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  Speaker 3: by shutting down the top forwards from the other team.
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  Speaker 3: And you know, if they don't play Utah in that
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  Speaker 3: first round that they barely got through, right, Mammoth had
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  Speaker 3: had the lead in four of the first five games
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  Speaker 3: in the third period, but a fast team in the Mammoth.
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  Speaker 3: Then they go to a fast team in Anaheim and
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  Speaker 3: a fast team in Colorado, and you could tell throughout
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  Speaker 3: the course of the playoffs he talked about they kind
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  Speaker 3: of got off to some slower starts against Utah and Anaheim,
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  Speaker 3: and then against Colorado. It was just from game number
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  Speaker 3: one they clogged up the neutral zone. They didn't they
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  Speaker 3: didn't let the speed of Colorado breakthrough, which cale mccarr
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  Speaker 3: missing the first two games huge there because he he
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  Speaker 3: can do anything that he wants when he's got the puck.
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  Speaker 3: So that and then they block a lot of shots,
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  Speaker 3: and holy smoke. So see Carter Hart all of a sudden,
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  Speaker 3: has to spend the MVP of the playoffs so far
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  Speaker 3: for a Vegas team that had the twenty eighth best
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  Speaker 3: save percentage in the NHL in the regular season. Goaltending
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  Speaker 3: was an issue for him and Carter Hart, we talked
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  Speaker 3: about it for the playoffs. He had a run with
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  Speaker 3: John Tortorella when they were with Philadelphia and then coming
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  Speaker 3: back this year eligible to play on the December first,
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  Speaker 3: Boy has he been good going up against the two
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  Speaker 3: ABS goalies who combined for the most wins in the NHL.
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  Speaker 3: And if there's one thing that Jared Bednar might be
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  Speaker 3: looking back at is and I don't think it changes
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  Speaker 3: anything in the series. But you know, your Monday morning quarterback,
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  Speaker 3: it he's stuck with Scott Wedgwood for the first three games,
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  Speaker 3: whereas during the regular season it was pretty much every
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  Speaker 3: other game, every other game, every other game, and so
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  Speaker 3: kind of changing that, you know, the balance of those
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  Speaker 3: two goalies. Maybe we saw how good Mackenzie Blackwood was
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  Speaker 3: last night night. He could have been five six nothing
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  Speaker 3: if he goes to him after a game one like
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  Speaker 3: he probably would have after a regular season loss on
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  Speaker 3: a Wednesday, when you're playing on a Friday. Is that
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  Speaker 3: anything that changed the series? I don't think so. But
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  Speaker 3: that's one thing that Colorado kind of straight away from
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  Speaker 3: that was in their control outside of the injuries during
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  Speaker 3: this conference final. But holy spokes, Vegas the recipe they
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  Speaker 3: employed it into Utah and Anaheim, they did it even
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  Speaker 3: better against Colorado. Just didn't give him any space, block shots,
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  Speaker 3: got saves and as you said, one shot and how
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  Speaker 3: many minutes.
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  Speaker 1: Crazy.
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  Speaker 2: I remember when the news came out that they were
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  Speaker 2: that Vegas was moving on with what eight games left
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  Speaker 2: in the regular season, and they were going to hire
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  Speaker 2: John Tortorella. I was like, all right, Towards is one
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  Speaker 2: of those guys that, even if you're the most casual
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  Speaker 2: of casual hockey fans, you know the name, you've heard,
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  Speaker 2: the name, you've seen Towards. And I still was like,
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  Speaker 2: is this gonna be That seems like a weird, kind
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  Speaker 2: of desperate, bad messaging move that late in a season
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  Speaker 2: where your team is in the playoffs. It's like that
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  Speaker 2: that made no sense to me. And yet here they
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  Speaker 2: are with John Tortorella. And maybe it's just the relationship
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  Speaker 2: he has with Heart that has allowed this to be
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  Speaker 2: such a perfect fit. But eight games before the regular
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  Speaker 2: season ends, you make a coaching change and you're in
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  Speaker 2: the Stanley Cup Final.
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  Speaker 1: Never would have been on my Bengo card me either.
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  Speaker 3: Like I'm watching Game five against Vegas when the series
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  Speaker 3: is two two and it's the first period, I'm like,
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  Speaker 3: come on, guys, like you can you can beat this
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  Speaker 3: team like this this is that's that's the one part
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  Speaker 3: of the series, the one part all year. I was
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  Speaker 3: just kind of kind of annoyed, kind of frustrated. I'm like,
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  Speaker 3: the man can take it to this team, and and
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  Speaker 3: we saw him in March and there was just something
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  Speaker 3: off with him. We talked about it when when Utah
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  Speaker 3: went down there and shut him out for nothing, and
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  Speaker 3: John Tortorella comes in, and there's been reports that there
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  Speaker 3: was no intention of keeping him beyond this playoff run.
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  Speaker 3: They they like their AHL coach Ryan Craig, who's got
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  Speaker 3: a connection with their GM Kelly McCrimmon. But now now
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  Speaker 3: you look at it and they've kind of adapted the
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  Speaker 3: personality of their head coach. Like it's it's hard to
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  Speaker 3: compliment somebody who you don't relate to. Who, right, we
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  Speaker 3: like people that are like us, right that I can't
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  Speaker 3: relate to John Tortorella. But his team has taken on
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  Speaker 3: his personality and it's just kind of you know, just
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  Speaker 3: how do you say it on the radio and stay
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  Speaker 3: on the air. But they just don't care like they's
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  Speaker 3: he's come in, you could he hasn't micro managed him.
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  Speaker 3: His message the whole time is I'm just gonna I've
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  Speaker 3: got a team here, they're veterans, they've won a Stanley Cup.
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  Speaker 3: I'm I'm gonna kind of shepherd them along as need be.
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  Speaker 3: But we don't need to make major changes here. Where
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  Speaker 3: they made the coaching change, you could tell Bruce Cassidy
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  Speaker 3: to kind of grind it on him. Has been kind
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  Speaker 3: of his reputation. Tortorella has the exact same thing, but
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  Speaker 3: eight regular season games and playoffs, you know, you're still
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  Speaker 3: getting that new coach bump. But they've adapted his personality.
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  Speaker 3: And John Torterella was a coach Columbus last team in
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  Speaker 3: in twenty nineteen when they beat the Tampa Bay Lightning
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  Speaker 3: in the first round and swept them best record in
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  Speaker 3: the NHL, So he's done it before. One of the
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  Speaker 3: knocks on him was managing playoff series because he's so motivational,
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  Speaker 3: he's so mindset based. But but the x's and o's
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  Speaker 3: have have not been you know, kind of the criticism
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  Speaker 3: of him in previous years. In this series, in fact,
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  Speaker 3: Vegas Is has gotten better. So I didn't see it coming.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I thought, I thought, man Utah should game five,
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  Speaker 3: like there's no reason why Utah shouldn't be winning this series,
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  Speaker 3: and and then but we've seen him just get better
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  Speaker 3: and better and and and for the Mammoth, and now
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  Speaker 3: I think you're looking at it like we did play
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  Speaker 3: a good series, as we said, and and here's the
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  Speaker 3: here's the proof.
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  Speaker 2: I'm I'm gonna be haunted by fifty two seconds left
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  Speaker 2: to go up three to one in that series in
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  Speaker 2: Game four and couldn't close it out, because that changes
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  Speaker 2: the entire complexion of not only that series, but maybe
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  Speaker 2: this Stanley Cup playoff if you're able to get it done.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm fine, right, it's one of those things that
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  Speaker 2: a group has to maybe go through together. You have
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  Speaker 2: to have that sting and remember it and next to
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  Speaker 2: your Stanley Cup playoffs and so the next time you
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  Speaker 2: come across that scenario, you do close it out over
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  Speaker 2: that final minute of play or whatever. But now that
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  Speaker 2: this Vegas team is in the Stanley Cup Final, and
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  Speaker 2: I think is gonna be the favorite in the Stanley
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  Speaker 2: Cup Final depending on who comes out of the East,
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, man, this Mammoth team was able to play
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  Speaker 2: with them, and there were moments where it looked like
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  Speaker 2: they were really truly the better team. So that that's
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  Speaker 2: gonna haunt me for a minute.
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  Speaker 3: And John Tortorella, right after the series, first thing he
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  Speaker 3: said was like, Andre Turney coached a good series, and
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  Speaker 3: he's got a good team over there, and they gave
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  Speaker 3: us a run for it, and you know it, you're
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  Speaker 3: always going to look back at it. And but but
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  Speaker 3: that's the Stanley Cup Playoffs. The team that gets hot
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  Speaker 3: is you know that they make the move and they
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  Speaker 3: go into it. And we've seen over the years with
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  Speaker 3: with Florida and with Tampa Bay and with Colorado. And
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  Speaker 3: I didn't see anybody taking care of Colorado. But Vegas.
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  Speaker 3: Vegas is the hot team, and you got to say
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  Speaker 3: that they're the favorite. Is they're going to open their
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  Speaker 3: fourth straight series on the road, be it against Montreal
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  Speaker 3: or Carolina. Is now they're going to get some some rest.
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  Speaker 2: That game Montreal Carolina right here on ESPN seven hundred
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  Speaker 2: and ninety two one FM.
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  Speaker 1: How do you think it plays out?
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  Speaker 3: Do you know what? I think? You can look at
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  Speaker 3: both Conference finals series so far and see the home
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  Speaker 3: team loses game one, right, Carolina got blown out by Montreal.
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  Speaker 3: They went up one nothing in game one and then
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  Speaker 3: they're down four to one, and then before you knew it,
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  Speaker 3: they're you know, they're they're run out of the building
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  Speaker 3: and then they got things reset and now they've won
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  Speaker 3: back to back games in overtime. Kind of expected that
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  Speaker 3: to be what happened in Colorado Bay. I guess it
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  Speaker 3: just it just didn't. And and sometimes you see a
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  Speaker 3: team with some rest or adjusting to a matchout, they
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  Speaker 3: lose the first game and then they win four straight.
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  Speaker 3: I wouldn't be surprised to see Carolina roll off a
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  Speaker 3: couple more wins, win the series in five, Montreal saying, hey, whoa, well,
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  Speaker 3: we're gonna take him to seven. Like we've gone seven
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  Speaker 3: games in every series thus far. Montreal has just lost
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  Speaker 3: two games in a row for the first time since March.
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  Speaker 3: But shots scoring chances, high danger chances got two to
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  Speaker 3: one in favor of Carolina in the series. Montreal the
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  Speaker 3: other night, same same thing, went over a half an
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  Speaker 3: hour of game time and had one shot on goal.
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  Speaker 3: And and you know, they beat Tampa Bay in a
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  Speaker 3: game seven with nine shots. And carolinea is always gonna
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  Speaker 3: control the puck possession. They lead the NHL and shots
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  Speaker 3: every year. This year they were second to Colorado. But
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  Speaker 3: but I kind of feel Caroline after those two overtime
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  Speaker 3: wins kind of kind of pulling away. As we talked
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  Speaker 3: about with Utah in Vegas, you lose two games in overtime.
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  Speaker 3: Then you then you have to win two more instead
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  Speaker 3: of just the four you already had to win because
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  Speaker 3: you were one shot away from from winning a couple.
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  Speaker 3: So I think, uh, Carolina pulls away, but Montreal has
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  Speaker 3: already gone to seven in the first two series so far.
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  Speaker 2: Sorry about your luck again, Canada, another year potentially without
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  Speaker 2: a Stanley Cup for a Canadian franchise.
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  Speaker 3: Montreal last team that did it ninety three beat the Kings.
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  Speaker 2: It's a long time for a nation that is the
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  Speaker 2: home of Canada. Now you've lost the gold medal to us.
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  Speaker 2: We keep making the Stanley Cup. Stay on American soil.
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  Speaker 2: It's our sport now, Canada.
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  Speaker 3: Sorry, not only American soil, but Florida, Florida, Vas Vegas. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: all right, this is the ninth time in ten years
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: that there's gonna be a Sunbelt city in the Stanley
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: Cup final. Yikes.
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: Well, we're looking forward to seeing how tonight's game plays out,
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: and of course we'll always check in with Adrian Dinny,
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: our Utah Mammoth and NHL Insider Between the Pipes brought
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: to you by Valley Plumbing, Heating and Cooling and Aladdin Industries.
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: Thanks for coming in again.
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and tonight Carolina and Montreal, which you can hear
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: right here. Nick Olchek will be on the call from
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: Hockey Night in Utah. Yeah. So I always love flipping on,
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: flipping on the radio, driving around and catching the games here.
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: So I love the work. He does. Also hate how
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: good he is at it in his twenties. You know
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: what I mean.
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: It's so good, you're just like, save some for the
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: rest of us. Man supposed to take to take some
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: time for you to get that good. Anyway, he's good.
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: That's Adrian Danny. Big thanks to him for coming in.