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Breaking Down Specific Standout Player Performances | Jaguars Happy Hour · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: It is Thursday October twenty fourth. This is Jaguars Happy
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  Speaker 1: Hour and now appearing in the latest Double O seven
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  Speaker 1: film as the latest Bond villain Teal Finger. J. P.
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  Speaker 2: Chacker, Welcome in. It is Jaguars Happy Hour. It is
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  Speaker 2: Thursday October twenty fourth. It is week eight in the
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  Speaker 2: National Football League. We've got a busy two hours ahead.
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  Speaker 2: The first hour of course, Jaguars Happy Hour. Then the
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  Speaker 2: Doug Peterson Show coming up at five o'clock on the
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  Speaker 2: Jaguars Radio Network.
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  Speaker 3: It's Packers week, green Bay coming to town.
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  Speaker 2: The Jaguars have to defend Jordan Love and the assortment of.
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  Speaker 3: Playmakers for Green Bay.
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  Speaker 2: They pitched the ball over the yard Trevor Lawrence against
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  Speaker 2: the Packers defense that leads the league in takeaways seventeen
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  Speaker 2: on the season. And the Batch's health injury report. Maybe
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  Speaker 2: this Jags team's getting healthier. We'll find out. And of course,
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  Speaker 2: as we said, the Doug Peterson Show, have the head
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  Speaker 2: Coaching Studio at five o'clock. As always, We're on Tention
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  Speaker 2: Jeff Logoman back in the USA.
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  Speaker 3: Thank goodness, good afternoon. Yeah, I mean I like London,
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  Speaker 3: but I like home better and glad to be back
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  Speaker 3: at EverBank for a home game against against a good
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  Speaker 3: Packers team. I mean, it's this good football team and
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  Speaker 3: it starts a stretch of games that are going to
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  Speaker 3: be pretty challenging.
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  Speaker 2: The next five games are against teams with winning records
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  Speaker 2: four of those. The next four are against teams that
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  Speaker 2: are contending in the NFC, three of those four against
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  Speaker 2: the NFC North, the best division in the National Football
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  Speaker 2: League through seven weeks.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think, look the next week's game. Not
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  Speaker 3: to get too far ahead, but I mean we can
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  Speaker 3: do that as we can do media guys. I mean
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  Speaker 3: players can't do that. Coaches can't do that, sure, but
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  Speaker 3: I mean Philidel has its issues, but they still have
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  Speaker 3: some really good components to their football team. Their quarterback
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  Speaker 3: I think is not playing particularly well Jalen Hurts, but look,
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  Speaker 3: they still play good defense, they still got a good
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  Speaker 3: offensive line when they're healthy, and that game will not
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  Speaker 3: be an easy one. I'm kind of a little bit,
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  Speaker 3: probably different than most, and that I'm not disappointed about
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  Speaker 3: the game getting flexed out. Disappointed certainly for the attention
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  Speaker 3: that this team could get on Sunday night football. But
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  Speaker 3: I get it, Sunday night football. They want to have
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  Speaker 3: the best matchups they possibly can. And with the start
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  Speaker 3: that the Jaguars had, it's understandable, you know. And it
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  Speaker 3: does mean that we'll be home earlier. True, But I
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  Speaker 3: would rather see this team play on Sunday night. Okay,
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  Speaker 3: but yeah, I mean the game after that was it
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  Speaker 3: at Detroit, excuse me, Vikings and then Detroit, you know,
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  Speaker 3: and Vikings are playing out of their mind. And you
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  Speaker 3: know what concerns me most about them is not their
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  Speaker 3: you know, reborn quarterback. It's their defense. Their defense with
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  Speaker 3: Brian Floyd's leading away. Now, I mean, they are really good.
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  Speaker 3: Detroit is a complete team as there is in the
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  Speaker 3: National Football League. And they've got a two headed monster
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  Speaker 3: at running back and quarterback who has been playing extremely well,
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  Speaker 3: with a tough defense that lost a big component in
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  Speaker 3: Aden Hutchinson, which you know that doesn't hurt. But this
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  Speaker 3: one here, if you get this one, then all of
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  Speaker 3: a sudden, I think you you gain a lot of
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  Speaker 3: confidence maybe in yourself for the games that are coming up,
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  Speaker 3: and that you you get up a little bit of
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  Speaker 3: momentum you know, because here's the reality. When you beat
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  Speaker 3: the Colts, you didn't generate any momentum because you lost
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  Speaker 3: the next week. Okay here against the New England Patriots,
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  Speaker 3: not a great football team, and if you don't follow
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  Speaker 3: it up with a good performance, you're not generating any momentum. Again,
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  Speaker 3: you got to stack wins to generate momentum to snowball
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  Speaker 3: kind of your way through the season. And this football
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  Speaker 3: team has a chance to do it at home against
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  Speaker 3: a football team that has a fan base that travels
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  Speaker 3: very well.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I mean they're Packer fans everywhere. It's how
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  Speaker 2: that works. When you're the Green Bay Packers, they're all
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  Speaker 2: over the place. Same for the Steelers, same for the Cowboys.
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  Speaker 3: It's just one of those like five heritage franchises that
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  Speaker 3: travel extremely well, and Green Bay is definitely one of them.
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  Speaker 3: And who doesn't want to get out of Wisconsin to
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  Speaker 3: come to Florida.
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  Speaker 2: But see, that's the point is they don't travel. They're
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  Speaker 2: just everywhere they live here, true, you know, but some travel, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: but some tub. The reality is how many how many
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  Speaker 2: people live in Green Bay.
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  Speaker 3: It's a good point, it's excellent. There's not a lot
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  Speaker 3: of people in Green Bay, they aren't.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, this is we'll get in deeper into the matchup
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  Speaker 2: coming up in just a little bit, But to your point,
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  Speaker 2: to make the rest of these games in this stretch matter,
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  Speaker 2: they got to get this first one.
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  Speaker 3: And yeah, they were in this same spot back at
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  Speaker 3: twenty twenty two.
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  Speaker 2: They were two and five, and then they got worse
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  Speaker 2: and then they started reeling off wins down the stretch.
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  Speaker 2: Tennessee came back to them because they couldn't get a
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  Speaker 2: healthy team on the field at all and kept losing
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  Speaker 2: games that all kind of worked together. I'm curious, and
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  Speaker 2: we'll ask Doug this in the second hour in the
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  Speaker 2: Doug Peterson Show. But you know, what can you take
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  Speaker 2: away from having already seen this happen once? It was
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  Speaker 2: an all time epic rally that year. But it can
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  Speaker 2: be done. He said it like anything's possible. Well, yes,
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  Speaker 2: anything's possible. But every year is different.
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  Speaker 3: And you know, you kind of got to say, well,
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  Speaker 3: every year is different, and every team is different, and
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  Speaker 3: yes you went through that, but not everybody went through that.
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  Speaker 3: That's on this football team. Every team is different. So
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  Speaker 3: it's just like saying that, Hey, look, you know, as
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  Speaker 3: a coach Doug Peterson was asked about last year and
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  Speaker 3: will last year have any impact on this year? You
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  Speaker 3: know the losing streak, we losing five out of the
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  Speaker 3: last six, And his answer was, now, this is a
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  Speaker 3: different year, it's a different team. Well, if it's different year,
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  Speaker 3: different team. The same thing can be said for the
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  Speaker 3: year twenty twenty two when they had an amazing rally
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  Speaker 3: to get the the postseason. They were very.
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  Speaker 2: Different team and it carried over though to the start
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  Speaker 2: of the next year.
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  Speaker 3: Then the collapse happened. Yeah, but I mean that twenty
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  Speaker 3: twenty two is a long time ago, okay for this
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  Speaker 3: football team. But the one thing that I hope going
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  Speaker 3: into this game and that the offense really covered some
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  Speaker 3: of the ills that the defense has in a big way. Okay,
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  Speaker 3: if the Jaguars offense does not have an amazing day
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  Speaker 3: running the football for how many consecutive times seventeen?
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  Speaker 2: At one point there were sixteen called runs after a scramble.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, sixteen consecutive runs at the end of the game,
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  Speaker 3: and the Jaguars are just pounding the Patriots so much
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  Speaker 3: that their head coach after the game calls his team
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  Speaker 3: saft that's right. Okay, So that was able to cover
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  Speaker 3: up a lot of the shortcomings of the Jaguars defense,
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  Speaker 3: and they've got to get some things fixed on the
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  Speaker 3: defensive side of the ball. I mean, seriously, they've got
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  Speaker 3: some issues on defense. Lists a few out there, like what, well,
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  Speaker 3: you can't continue to still have the mental break breakdowns
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  Speaker 3: or mental errors at the pace that you're having so far.
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  Speaker 3: You're talking about like coverage busts, coverage bus Okay, but
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  Speaker 3: I also when I say mental errors emmys is what
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  Speaker 3: for short calleds can't happen in any aspect of the game,
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  Speaker 3: whether it's against the pass or against the run. The Jaguars, though,
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  Speaker 3: are doing a pretty good job against the run, I mean,
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  Speaker 3: look at their rankings. Okay, doing a very good job.
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  Speaker 3: But against the past, the number of breakdowns and a
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  Speaker 3: number of times that we see people running open is
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  Speaker 3: far too frequent. That's got to change, and especially against
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  Speaker 3: a team like Green Bay who has a balanced attack
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  Speaker 3: with one of the best running backs in the league
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  Speaker 3: I think in Josh Jacobs, and then a quarterback who
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  Speaker 3: is young but good, and then he's got some really
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  Speaker 3: good weapons. So you better tighten up this week. As
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  Speaker 3: far as eliminating some of the mental errors. And I
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  Speaker 3: think maybe the return of Foyer, Lukan, maybe the return
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  Speaker 3: of Winger might help that.
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  Speaker 2: There was some of that early in the game where
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  Speaker 2: they had two off sides and a neutral zone infraction
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  Speaker 2: on the same defensive possession, like two from Josh.
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  Speaker 3: That goes into the category of Emmy's as well. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: mental errors, you can't have them, no, And look, fortunately
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  Speaker 3: the Patriots team is in a bit of a redevelopment stage, okay,
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  Speaker 3: and wasn't exactly the most challenging football team on the
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  Speaker 3: planet for this Jaguars team at Whimbley, so that helped
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  Speaker 3: a lot. But this is a little different level. Okay,
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  Speaker 3: the next four games five games here, Okay, different level
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  Speaker 3: teams than what you just saw in the New England Patriots.
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  Speaker 3: And okay, I get it. People who love people say, wow,
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  Speaker 3: you know this is the NFL, this is not college football.
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  Speaker 3: Well yeah, but there's still different levels in the National
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  Speaker 3: Football League. That's why they have records, Okay, that's why
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  Speaker 3: they keep track. Okay, there's teams that have been near
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  Speaker 3: the bottom consistently for a while, and there's teams that
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  Speaker 3: are in rebuild modes. And that's the Patriots, and so,
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  Speaker 3: I mean, that was a good win because they needed
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  Speaker 3: a win, but let's be honest, it wasn't against a
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  Speaker 3: great football team, a team that had a rookie quarterback
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  Speaker 3: that was making a second career start behind an offensive
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  Speaker 3: line that, oh, by the way, had had their seventh
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  Speaker 3: different starting offensive line combination of the year in seven games.
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  Speaker 2: And the right guard came out of the game during
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  Speaker 2: the game too. I mean, so there was a lot
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  Speaker 2: of that going on. They've played four different guys that
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  Speaker 2: left tackle going in. They've had their issue, and there
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  Speaker 2: still wasn't a lot of push on the quarterback, not
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  Speaker 2: as much as you'd like, right, like to see in
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  Speaker 2: a little bit more, like to see a little bit more,
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  Speaker 2: particularly out of Josh and Trayvon for the entire game.
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  Speaker 2: Defensive tackle continues to be a spot that's a little
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  Speaker 2: bit worrisome, you know. The one thing that I liked
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  Speaker 2: in the game was the changes that they made in
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  Speaker 2: the back end seemed.
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  Speaker 3: To help some. They moved Savage to the safety spot,
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  Speaker 3: Antonio Johnson went to more of just a dime type
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  Speaker 3: of role. Jari and Jones took over the nickel position
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  Speaker 3: from Savage because of Savage moving to safety, you know,
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  Speaker 3: and I think that helped it eliminated some of the breakdowns,
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  Speaker 3: but you still had some breakdowns in the middle, you know,
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  Speaker 3: And I think that the return of Foyer a Luken
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  Speaker 3: will help that in a in a big way. Who
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  Speaker 3: you take off the field at linebacker?
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  Speaker 4: Me?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, No, the other person I'm on the show with, Yes,
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  Speaker 3: you have to be the coach. Yesking, I'm taking Devin
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  Speaker 3: Lloyd off. Okay, I said it earlier in the week.
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  Speaker 3: I talked to you about it last week, and that
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  Speaker 3: you know, he's he plays well against the run, he's athletic,
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  Speaker 3: he's physical. But the problem and you hear Doug Peterson
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  Speaker 3: talking about this term called I discipline. How many times
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  Speaker 3: have we heard that term a lot? Okay? Yeah, And
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  Speaker 3: I'm not saying it's directed directly at Devon, but I
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  Speaker 3: think part of it is directed at devn and some
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  Speaker 3: of the mistakes that he's made. And that's you know.
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  Speaker 3: So the reality is is that you can have two
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  Speaker 3: starting linebackers on the field when you have a nickel defense,
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  Speaker 3: okay two, when you go to dime, you only have one.
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  Speaker 3: Ventro Miller has earned a spot on this football team
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  Speaker 3: he's earned the right to play more when Foyer comes back,
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  Speaker 3: because the reality is, when Foyer comes back, he comes
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  Speaker 3: back as a starter. He's not going to come back
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  Speaker 3: as a rotational player. And oh, you know, we're gonna
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  Speaker 3: work him into the lineup because we don't have a
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  Speaker 3: depth charge. He's your starter now. However, the way he's
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  Speaker 3: your best linebacker, the way they've played it this year,
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  Speaker 3: they've taken him off the field, so which I don't
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  Speaker 3: agree with. I don't think. I mean, look now, when
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  Speaker 3: he's coming back, you know, you got to work him
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  Speaker 3: back in, make sure the foot is okay. The plantar
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  Speaker 3: fasciois that he has, which by the way, I've had
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  Speaker 3: it back in the day, and extremely extremely painful, uncomfortable
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  Speaker 3: at times. But there's a lot of things that they
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  Speaker 3: can do, you know, the orthotics and taping, the food
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  Speaker 3: and the treatment and everything that he's gotten that I
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  Speaker 3: think will help him out. But when he comes back,
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  Speaker 3: he's on field. He's on the field, and then you
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  Speaker 3: got to maybe give him spells occasionally until you feel
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  Speaker 3: good about the foot and you feel good about his
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  Speaker 3: conditioning level. But was I a fan of rotating him
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  Speaker 3: earlier in the season. Not so much. But the only
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  Speaker 3: benefit I think that you are the one thing that
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  Speaker 3: I would say that you benefit from that was because
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  Speaker 3: he was rotating in. Ventra Miller was rotating in. Then
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  Speaker 3: he got some experience, I think, which helped him once
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  Speaker 3: he did finally get in the light on, and then
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  Speaker 3: he was out there and making plays. Ventro Miller, though,
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  Speaker 3: JP watching a film of him, I mean, it's a joy.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I'm not saying he's Ray Lewis or anything
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  Speaker 3: like that, but there hasn't been a linebacker here in
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  Speaker 3: quite some time, going all the way back to Pause
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  Speaker 3: that attacks the line of scrimmage, I know, and Pause
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  Speaker 3: never even attacked it like that. And look, PA's a
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  Speaker 3: great player. I'm not saying that. I don't want anybody
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  Speaker 3: get confused. I'm not saying Ventrel Miller's at the level
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  Speaker 3: of Pizzlusni. I'm not. Okay, that's a pretty lofty standard,
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  Speaker 3: okay in Jaguars history, But just the way that Ventrel
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  Speaker 3: attacks the line of scrimmage is amazing to watch. I
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  Speaker 3: mean amazing to watch when he fires, he's attacking, when
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  Speaker 3: he diagnoses offensive linemen are off balance and they're getting
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  Speaker 3: rocked because he is attacking and running backs are getting rocked.
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  Speaker 2: It's a lot of fun to watch. We'll come back
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  Speaker 2: in just a moment and hear from it. Coach Doug
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  Speaker 2: Peterson on the opposing quarterback this week, Jordan Love and
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  Speaker 2: what he has to offer.
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  Speaker 3: A little bit later. Jaguars offense.
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  Speaker 2: Can they maintain what they did last week in the
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  Speaker 2: ground game? Moving forward with Tank Bigsby And we'll see
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  Speaker 2: a little later the injury report and see where things
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  Speaker 2: are trending. Now Day two of practice heading into week
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  Speaker 3: So that's that injury.
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  Speaker 2: Kount Of calls a quarterback down, so he's in the pocket.
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  Speaker 5: He's seen getting the ball out of the more quick passing,
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  Speaker 5: the screen game, things like that, you know, have.
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  Speaker 3: Have helped him.
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  Speaker 5: And of course they're run game, you know, and and
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  Speaker 5: getting the ball you know, uh, you know, in Jacob's
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  Speaker 5: hands and letting him go and they do a great
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  Speaker 5: job with shifts motions and you know, sort of the
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  Speaker 5: misdirection stuff too that you got to be prepared for
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  Speaker 5: and then obviously the play action pass comes off that.
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  Speaker 5: So you're just seeing I think a quarterback has kind
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  Speaker 5: of settled in quite frankly since the injury.
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  Speaker 4: I he's joined a good joe.
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  Speaker 2: Head coach Doug Peterson earlier this week discussing Jordan Love
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  Speaker 2: now in eleven straight games, including the playoffs, has two
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  Speaker 2: or more touchdown passes. Pretty good, right, He's also thrown
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  Speaker 2: a bunch of interceptions in that time. Fran Oh, yes
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  Speaker 2: he has.
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  Speaker 3: He'll put it up. He's missed two games this year
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  Speaker 3: and he's right around the top of the league with interceptions.
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  Speaker 3: He's got eight of them. And so when you miss
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  Speaker 3: two games and you have eight interceptions, that's not a
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  Speaker 3: very good number. So he's going to give you some opportunities.
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  Speaker 3: You got to take advantage of it. And if you
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  Speaker 3: can do that, you would also kind of turn one
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  Speaker 3: of the numbers that hasn't been so good for your
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  Speaker 3: defense around, which is the lack of takeaways, which I
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  Speaker 3: think right now the Jaguars defense might be on a
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  Speaker 3: record pace for a season low takeaways. What was the low.
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  Speaker 3: I think it's nine a few years ago and that
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  Speaker 3: was that was twenty one, wasn't it. I think it
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  Speaker 3: was twenty one. I think that's the low. We've got
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  Speaker 3: to confirm that, but we're guessing that. But Jordan Loves
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  Speaker 3: a good quarterback. What's amazing to me is that he's
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  Speaker 3: getting ready to make his twenty fourth regular season start
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  Speaker 3: and him and Trevor Lawrence are on the same pace
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  Speaker 3: goal fifty five million dollars a year. Because remember, Jordan
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  Speaker 3: Love didn't do anything for a number of years because
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  Speaker 3: he sat behind Aaron Rodgers and he didn't even have
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  Speaker 3: a start. He had one start prior to last year,
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  Speaker 3: one start prior to last year, and then he started
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  Speaker 3: all the games last year, had a really good season.
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  Speaker 3: His career record right now twelve and eleven, and he's
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  Speaker 3: got an arm that can make all the throws. I
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  Speaker 3: don't think there's doubting any of his abilities there. But
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  Speaker 3: he does make some poor decisions at times, which is
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: why you see the interception numbers, and you've got to
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: you've got to find a way to make the plays
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: when given the opportunity, because he's going to throw a
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: couple of them up under pressure. He will make a
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: poor decision, but you know there's a lot of quarterbacks
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: that do that. Trevor's been really good in that category.
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: This year kind of been cleaned with the football, making
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: good decisions and protecting the football. Jordan Love's kind of
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: been the opposite. So if you can make him make
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: those mistakes and make those interceptions, you got a really
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: good chance. They spread it around a bunch of different
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: receivers as well. The Pickers have six players two or
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: more touchdowns this year, and it's tied for second most
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: in the NFL.
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: Buffalo has seven guys with two or more and it's
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: the tight end Tucker Craft and the wide receiver down
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: Tavian Wicks with four touchdowns each leading the way Virginia
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: guy by the way, Wicks, Oh see, yeah he's a
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: uva guy.
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: Cavalier, Yeah he's a uva guy. But I mean, look,
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: they get everybody involved, from Wicks to Watson to Dobbs
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: to Reid to Craft the tight end, even Melton who
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: is kind of way back on the depth chart at
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: wide receiver, but he does a good job of spreading
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: the ball round. This is This is the battle of
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: two head coaches that have you know, even though Doug
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: doesn't call the plays, Lafleur does. From what I understand,
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: this is a battle of two very good, offensive minded
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: football teams that have to be honest to fifty five
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: million dollars year quarterbacks. And I think it's gonna be
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: a really good football game. I think it's gonna be
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: one that that my popcorn will be ready for because
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: I think there's gonna be a lot of offensive firepower
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: in this game.
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: It is of the five highest paid quarterbacks by average salary.
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: Only Jordan Love has a winning record this year. Everybody
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: else is fine, kind of amazing, right, right, Dak Prescott's
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: in there. Three and three, two is one and one Trevor. Yeah, yeah,
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: it's right. All that money and you got, you got
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: not a lot of wins.
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• 20:00
  Speaker 3: You know, we talk all this quarterback stuff, but let
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: me give some credit to the Packers offensive line because
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: they're pretty good. You know, like last week with the Patriots,
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: they're seventh different starting offensive line combination. The Packers offensive
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: line have started every week the same lineup, and that's
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: a good unit. PFF ranks all of the offensive lines. Oh,
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: we love them, and I know that you're a big fan.
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: PFF has them as a top five offensive line. If
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: you evaluated the Jaguars offensive line over the last three weeks,
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: you might put them in the top five because they've
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: been doing a pretty good job as of late. Right
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: now they're down in the twenty somewhere. But that Packers
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: offensive line is they're legit, they're good. I think it's
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: imperative that Josh and Trayvon have big games this week.
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: If you don't get big games from those two guys,
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: then it's gonna be hard.
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: I'll slipping around out of the Jaguars offense in their
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: matchup this week against the Packers defense that leads the
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: league with seventeen takeaways. Xavier McKinney had an interception in
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: each of the first five games this season. Tyre Alexander
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: is on the outside, and we'll tell you about it
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: all game long.
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: He likes to talk, chirp whatever you want to call that.
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: Can this Jaguars offense run like they did last week?
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: It's that's the stake. Yes, yeah, I mean, look, if
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: you watch the film from last week against Houston, C J.
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: Stroud got hammered. He'd had a career low passing yards.
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: I wrote the numbers down he had. He was ten
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: of twenty one for eighty six yards and a fifty
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: eight point eight rating, And then those numbers came when
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: Joe Mixon was running wild. I mean Joe Mixon. Joe
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: Mixon had a monster game. I got to just point
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: it out because I'm watching the film and I'm going
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: this might be the best that I've seen Joe Mixon run.
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: He was that good and dicing up the Green Bay
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: Packers defense, which shocking, right that he's having a monster game,
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: and then the quarterback doesn't have at least a good game.
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: But the Packers the ability to pressure c. J. Stroud
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: and to confuse the protection of the Houston Texans was impressive.
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: And that's what I worry about here in this game
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: is can the Packers confuse the protection of the Jaguars
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: offensive line, tight ends, running backs because they are all
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: part of the protection for Trevor Lawrence. Because we've seen
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: when Trevor has had early pressure in games, he hasn't
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: been as sharp throughout the most the majority part of
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: the game. That's the challenge this week because they run
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: some cool pressures. Now they run. They don't play like
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: you know, they're not going back to Rex Ryan Zeros
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: and sending the house. They play a lot of zone
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: blitz and the Texans had a hard time figuring out
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: who was coming and who is not and can we
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: block them all.
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: They rotated every time, and different guys are dropping out
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: and doing all that.
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they did a really good job with that.
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: We seemed to watch for sure, and you know, challenge
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: and they were the way it worked last week. And
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: I get, yes, it's the Patriots, but they hit a
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: couple of shots when they were there down the field,
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: like there were a couple of big time throws from
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: Trevor in that game to you know, when they were
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: even before they started running the ball. That first the
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: drive after their down ten nothing, second and nine throw
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: to Christian Kirk, which was a great catch by the
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: great catch, great throw, big moment, had to have that drive,
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: got it done.
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: And of course the deep ball later to Brian Thomas
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: right of the numbers, a great, great route, and the
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: one to Kirk just real quick on that one, real
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: small window because you know you had a you know,
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: a defender in front, defender behind, and so to be
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: able to kind of get that in there by Trevor,
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: that was a great throw, great catch as well. And
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: then the deep ball to Brian Thomas and the Patriots
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: were playing what is called quarters coverage and not to
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: be overly football complicated. Quarters is for people to understand it,
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: just think of four quarters equals a dollar. There's four
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: guys in the back end playing twenty five percent zones
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: in the background. Okay, And what Brian did which was
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: really cool, is that he attacked the one guy, which
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: was Gonzales in the quarters coverage and made sure that
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: the other defender said, oh, he's going over there for
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: Gonzales and is not even going to be in my area.
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: But then Brian, after he attacks Gonzales, kind of bends
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: it back to the middle and that's really where there
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: should have been a little extra help. But Brian ran
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: a great route to keep all the attention away from
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: himself from that middle safety kind of player. And what
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: a catch. I mean, Gonzalez had his arm right across
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: across the bread basket of the hands of Brian Thomas
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: Junior and he still catches it. Amazing catch. And if
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: teams are going to keep playing Brian Thomas like that,
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: they better start thinking about doubling him. I hope they don't.
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: I hope they don't, but keep playing him like that.
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: And if you're Doug Peterson and press Taylor. You got
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: to keep finding ways to get him singled and deep
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: because I mean, right now, is there a better deep
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: receiver in the game.
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: Today's it's his third catch of fifty plus yards. It's
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: tired for the most in the NFL.
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, you go, I'm not trying to you know,
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: I don't want to get a speeding ticket here and
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: say that he's you know, the greatest things in sliced
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: bread ever. But he's really good. You're saying really good.
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: Don't suit him up for a teal jacket yet? Yes, okay, yeah,
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: but he's a He's a joy to watch. I can
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: tell you that. I mean, look, can you think of
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: any other player on this Jaguars roster that has given
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: more energy to this team in game so far this year?
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: I mean, Tank Bigsby's getting there right when they has
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: some big runs like that and the breakaway run the
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: other week. I mean there's some of that, but consistently
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: it's been the down.
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: To fit Brian shot to. I mean, he's Thomas. He
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: has woken this team up in a lot of cases.
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: And we always know that explosive plays are kind of
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: what leads to points in the NFL. Well, I mean,
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: he's an explosive play waiting to happen.
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: We've got plenty to discuss. Kayle Stevens will join us
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: to discuss at all, and we have to get into
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: this Jaguars running game a little bit more as well.
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: We'll hear from Tank Bigsby in just a little bit
• 26:42
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• 27:08
  Speaker 3: I wouldn't sound surprised myself. I mean, I know my abilities.
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  Speaker 3: I know what I'm capable of.
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: So I just try to come out and be the
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: best I can be and do what I know I
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  Speaker 2: can do. SPTJ Brian Thomas, Junior Jaguars Wide Receiver.
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• 28:00
  Speaker 3: You do everything around here. Let's yes, and we thank
• 28:03
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• 28:04
  Speaker 4: Oh, thank you so much.
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: How are you?
• 28:05
  Speaker 4: I'm good You're back here so I don't have to
• 28:07
  Speaker 4: fill in on happy hour.
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: Well, thank you for all your efforts. The last few weeks.
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: It's been a lot of moving parts, happy to help
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: it works.
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: Teams back, teams winning or won a game one yes,
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: felt okay in.
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: The locker room. Last couple of days.
• 28:22
  Speaker 4: It has, and I think obviously coming back from London,
• 28:26
  Speaker 4: they absolutely needed that win. To get on that plane
• 28:28
  Speaker 4: without a win was going to be not great for anybody,
• 28:31
  Speaker 4: So that's definitely given them a little life. I think
• 28:33
  Speaker 4: the way that they did it was big because to
• 28:36
  Speaker 4: fall down ten, here we go again, what we've seen
• 28:39
  Speaker 4: all season long, To fight back a little bit and
• 28:40
  Speaker 4: then have the offense have so much success was impressive
• 28:43
  Speaker 4: to me. We finally saw some changes defensively, which I
• 28:46
  Speaker 4: think a lot of people were hoping would happen a
• 28:48
  Speaker 4: little bit sooner. But we're finally the team's getting a
• 28:51
  Speaker 4: little healthy. We're seeing some of those changes on the
• 28:52
  Speaker 4: back end. There more players coming back to help out
• 28:56
  Speaker 4: with that, so potentially this week as well. So I
• 28:59
  Speaker 4: think it's all trending positive. Of course, you know, week
• 29:01
  Speaker 4: to week, it's just a lot easier to work on
• 29:03
  Speaker 4: stuff when you get a win the week before.
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: In a big way. I just you know, it's like
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: I remember when I was in high school and playing
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: at Parkview High School, we had a head coach who
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: was a little bit of a taskmaster, you know, a
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: little stern, you know, and if you lost, you weren't
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: allowed to talk on the bus ride home, you know,
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: So like when you have a long trip, I mean, look,
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: you know that's a long flight to have with you know,
• 29:29
  Speaker 3: nobody talking on the way home, even though they're allowed
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: to talk. But I mean it's still it's that mindset
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: when you have a game that you lose, you've got
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: to kind of you got to soak in it for
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: that long on a plane ride back. And so I'm
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: glad they got the win. If you had lost the Patriots,
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: I think things would have gotten very loud. I mean,
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: I mean really loud loud anyway.
• 29:51
  Speaker 4: But yeah, well not just outside inside it loud.
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: It would have been loud, really loud. And the reality
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: is is that you're kind of back where you 're
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: at prior to that game if you lose this one.
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: I mean, that's the reality.
• 30:04
  Speaker 4: It is because they've dug themselves into such a deep
• 30:06
  Speaker 4: poll at this point.
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: That's right, And this is a good football team in
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: a stretch that has a lot of good football teams,
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: and this football team is going to challenge your defense,
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: so your offense needs to be on point.
• 30:21
  Speaker 4: That's wrong, up with it? I think got to win
• 30:23
  Speaker 4: a shootout at this point. I don't know how much
• 30:25
  Speaker 4: you're gonna be able to show slow green Bay down.
• 30:27
  Speaker 4: So hopefully what we saw last week from the offense
• 30:30
  Speaker 4: carry that over, score a lot of points and have
• 30:32
  Speaker 4: the ball last. Right.
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: I think it's going to take I mean thirty points
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: to win this game. Boy, maybe thirty five? Yeah, I
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: mean I think that's where it's going to be a
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: lot of points. Yeah, I mean, what is green Bay
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: average in twenty seven? A lot? What are we giving
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: up the game a lot, a whole lot, so it's
• 30:56
  Speaker 3: kind of interesting. And that you have, Okay, the Jaguars offense,
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: which is a strong suit, okay against Packers defense that's
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: getting a ton of takeaways that you think, okay, you
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: think you feel good about the Jaguars chances there, but
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: at the same time you're going, well, well, waiting minute,
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: Green Bay's been pretty good, and then the Jaguars defensive matchup,
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: you don't feel good about it all.
• 31:21
  Speaker 4: I don't feel great.
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: Do you feel good about any part of the Jaguars
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: defense versus the Packers offense matchup? I mean not on paper, No,
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: I don't. I mean, it's just okay, let's put the
• 31:37
  Speaker 3: papers away in your heart defense, in your heart of
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: your head. Do you feel good about that? It's not
• 31:44
  Speaker 3: a great match yeah. I mean, even if you say that,
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: I think we're hopeful.
• 31:49
  Speaker 4: Yes, and that's a good place to be.
• 31:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we're hopeful that. Okay, Tyson second game back, Foyer
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: coming back, maybe a winger, not sure, you know, hopefully
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: Foyers back, Maybe end up having a couple of takeaways
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: as a defense, but right now you haven't been getting
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: them three all year.
• 32:07
  Speaker 4: Two on defense right, Jordan Love will give you a chance,
• 32:09
  Speaker 4: though I think similarly to the Patriots, Drake May gave
• 32:12
  Speaker 4: a couple of shots he dropped probably at least two,
• 32:14
  Speaker 4: so the opportunity will be there. I think Trevor's been
• 32:17
  Speaker 4: really good smart with the football this year. I don't
• 32:19
  Speaker 4: think we give him enough credit for that because fumbling
• 32:22
  Speaker 4: was a probably Jim turnovers were a problem for him. Interceptions,
• 32:25
  Speaker 4: He's only turned the ball over a couple of times,
• 32:28
  Speaker 4: so he's been smart with the football. If the defense
• 32:30
  Speaker 4: can get off the field some of those times, I
• 32:32
  Speaker 4: think that gives you more of a chance to get
• 32:35
  Speaker 4: the offense going.
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: And another part of this offense, certainly last week, they
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: ran the ball in the second half, they had that
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: long stretch of plays where they ran seventeen in a row,
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: and Tank Bigsby did not put the ball on the deck.
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: Last week in the running game, he dropped a pass.
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: That was one. But when are we going to get
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: past the point of talking about that one until he
• 32:55
  Speaker 3: consistently doesn't do it.
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: It's gonna take a while, right, don't have the same thing.
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: Right one year he's fumbling the ball, next year, didn't
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: fumble it at all. He didn't say it, and then
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: we won this year, fumbles the football again, so it's
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: a topic.
• 33:07
  Speaker 4: Also, it's not far. I mean Tank didn't do last game,
• 33:09
  Speaker 4: but he's done it within last month, so you know,
• 33:12
  Speaker 4: sometimes it doesn't hurt him because it's on a kick
• 33:14
  Speaker 4: return and they get.
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: The ball back or whatever may.
• 33:16
  Speaker 4: But that's coaches noticed that that's still ball security.
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: That's still a problem, and that's what the opponents are coaching.
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: When like the last game against the Patriots, when you
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: actually watch the game and you watch the film, you
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: could see that the defenders were treating him and Durness
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: Johnson differently a little bit. I'm seriously you, I mean,
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: they were really going after the ball when Tank had
• 33:38
  Speaker 3: it in his possession versus like a Durness Johnson. And
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: that's just that's coaching awareness by you know, the opposing team.
• 33:47
  Speaker 3: Because the fact of the matter is is that he
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: has put the ball on the carpet a few times.
• 33:52
  Speaker 3: He's lost four fumbles in his career, and that was
• 33:56
  Speaker 3: I think when he had like ninety touches and that's
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: a pretty high rate. He's obviously had some more touches
• 34:01
  Speaker 3: and hasn't lost it since then, but he's put it
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: on the ground, you know, just been fortunate enough to
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: get that ball back. And so I think, to answer
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: my own question, when do you stop talking about that?
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: Is maybe when he has a season that finishes and
• 34:15
  Speaker 3: you're not seeing that anymore.
• 34:17
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  Speaker 3: Back at Home Base right at Strings.
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  Speaker 4: We are back. We've been gone for a while Hurricane
• 34:49
  Speaker 4: and then we were in London. So we are now
• 34:51
  Speaker 4: back at Strings. Jeff can get his favorite meal of
• 34:53
  Speaker 4: the week, and then we're gonna get to talk to
• 34:55
  Speaker 4: some players. Ventrel Miller's going to be with us this week.
• 34:58
  Speaker 4: Oh cool, Yeah, absolutely, He's just such a character. It's
• 35:03
  Speaker 4: great his I don't know if you guys watched sounds
• 35:05
  Speaker 4: of the game yet, but it's out, and he did
• 35:08
  Speaker 4: one of the pregame speeches in the huddles and I
• 35:10
  Speaker 4: didn't understand all of what he was saying. I was
• 35:12
  Speaker 4: very excited. I feel like people would run through a
• 35:15
  Speaker 4: wall for him.
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  Speaker 3: You know, every week when I watched the film, and
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: Kay's seen my list before, and I've shown some of
• 35:21
  Speaker 3: the plays to her and JP, you've seen my list before.
• 35:24
  Speaker 3: You know, when I watched the film, I'll write down
• 35:26
  Speaker 3: the play number and then a description. Sometimes good, some
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: things are good, sometimes things are bad. Well with Ventro,
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: much like with Brenton Strange, over the last couple of weeks,
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: I had a pretty good section of him every week
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: of how good he's been. This week not so much
• 35:40
  Speaker 3: with him, but I had a section on Ventrel and
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: there were like six plays that he had in this
• 35:46
  Speaker 3: game that I'm just were to me, wow moments. I mean,
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: where he's attacking, he's running through the tackles. I mean,
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: he's a special talent. And for a young player that
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: how he reacts in such a quick fashion and then
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: attacks where he needs to attack without hesitation is very rare.
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: It's very rare. Sometimes it takes time and time on
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: task to feel or gain that confidence to attack it
• 36:16
  Speaker 3: like that. But he's rolling, man, he is rolling. Fun
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: to watch TFLs attacking guards. He's literally he's hitting guards
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: that are pulling around into a hole for him before
• 36:29
  Speaker 3: they even can get square in a hole. That's how
• 36:32
  Speaker 3: fast he's getting there. He's hitting them when they're in
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: a weak position. That's fast. That's playing downhill.
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: Love that Jaguars have invested in that position over the
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: last few years a lot.
• 36:44
  Speaker 3: But here's the other thing we keep forgetting. He tour
• 36:46
  Speaker 3: his achilles last year, right, I mean we're talking about
• 36:50
  Speaker 3: a guy who's coming back from a torn achilles. I mean,
• 36:55
  Speaker 3: do you guys see any signs.
• 36:56
  Speaker 4: Of You'd see no hesitation, you'd see no side of it.
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: Now, No, that's impressive alone by itself, just being out there.
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  Speaker 4: So and in that capacity essentially a rookie. Yes, he
• 37:09
  Speaker 4: didn't play last year.
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: No, he didn't play last year at all. I mean
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: went down in the preseason. And now what you're talking about,
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: you know, the sounds of the game, he's getting the
• 37:20
  Speaker 3: team amped up before the game and he's a second
• 37:25
  Speaker 3: year player, is really a rookie. I mean that's pretty
• 37:31
  Speaker 3: cool to see, you know, young player kind of take
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: that role. But I think what it also says is
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: that there hasn't been enough of that coming from elsewhere.
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's some other veteran guys around here that that's
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: kind of not how they roll.
• 37:45
  Speaker 3: Well, I mean some guys have it, some guys don't,
• 37:48
  Speaker 3: but take it. You got to have some of that.
• 37:53
  Speaker 4: On the field too. We've been saying it for weeks.
• 37:54
  Speaker 4: Playmakers got to make plays. So if you want to
• 37:56
  Speaker 4: lead by example and you don't want to yell at everybody,
• 37:58
  Speaker 4: you got to do that too. Haven't seen that from everybody.
• 38:02
  Speaker 3: Who's that in the Jags broadcasting department?
• 38:04
  Speaker 4: You thinkers make plays?
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: No, no, no, the one to like shake everybody up
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: and do like the breakdown.
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: Who you think would that be? M you? I think you? Yeah,
• 38:14
  Speaker 3: I think yeah. I don't know. I think it goes on.
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: I was gonna say, oh, yeah, imagine you imagine John
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: Oser trying to break down the group.
• 38:23
  Speaker 4: Yes, I would run through a wall for John Oser.
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: Absolutely, Johnny Ozone. But you know what, though I love them,
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: the stuff that he writes on Jaguars dot com is money.
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: It's almost like his job gold. I've said this before,
• 38:42
  Speaker 3: when when First of all, I've known John for a
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: long time back when he has ponytail.
• 38:48
  Speaker 4: Great, I need more photos of that.
• 38:49
  Speaker 3: By the way, wow uh yeah.
• 38:53
  Speaker 4: Jags fans out there, if you want to at me
• 38:55
  Speaker 4: on Twitter, I would love to see John Oser's ponytail photos.
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: And when he has when he left here, he I
• 39:03
  Speaker 3: know he was in Indianapolis for a while, and because
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: the Colts were in the division, I would in the
• 39:10
  Speaker 3: The Coults at the time had a PR director that
• 39:13
  Speaker 3: was horrendous, horrendous, you know. I mean, maybe their PR
• 39:18
  Speaker 3: director wasn't horrendous, but their weekly game release was horrendous.
• 39:22
  Speaker 3: It was literally like a It's like an accountant's book.
• 39:26
  Speaker 3: Look at all what Peyton Manning's done. He's done this,
• 39:28
  Speaker 3: and he's done that.
• 39:29
  Speaker 4: What else?
• 39:32
  Speaker 3: My point is is that the whole reason for having
• 39:35
  Speaker 3: a weekly release is to give the nuggets to all
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: the broadcast departments and media members so that they don't
• 39:44
  Speaker 3: have to decipher all of these numbers. Give them nuggets
• 39:48
  Speaker 3: cliff notes, give them the cliff notes version. What does
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: it have to do with Okay, because you didn't get
• 39:55
  Speaker 3: that the Cults press release, you had to read John
• 40:00
  Speaker 3: at wherever he was whether it was at the newspaper
• 40:03
  Speaker 3: or Colts dot com. And if you read his stuff,
• 40:07
  Speaker 3: you got every main storyline that you needed to get
• 40:10
  Speaker 3: about the Colts. And it's the same thing with the Jaguars.
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: And and I'm not saying that because I've known John
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: long time and I didn't. I definitely did not like
• 40:17
  Speaker 3: the Ponytail. But he is a talented writer who does
• 40:21
  Speaker 3: a great job. I guess no, Joe, he didn't like
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: yours either. He did not pay me for this at
• 40:26
  Speaker 3: all either. Okay, that we know of, he did not.
• 40:30
  Speaker 3: Jaguars h's too cheap to pay anybody. Oh wow, you
• 40:33
  Speaker 3: guys know that.
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: No comment at Jaguars All Access Television tonight seven o'clock,
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: Fox thirty strings, Ventrel Miller.
• 40:42
  Speaker 3: Ky Downy Stevens, Brent Martineau, Yeah, who's that guy? And
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: Jeff Flagerman TV TV. Martina was in London he was Yeah.
• 40:51
  Speaker 3: I saw him Stewart, I saw they were by the way.
• 40:57
  Speaker 3: Did you go to the Fulham game? I did? Did
• 40:59
  Speaker 3: you go to the Fulham You didn't go? Awesome?
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: The new Riverside stands incredible, awesome. We sat in there
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: like the first row of the upper deck. It was
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: all right over the field. Amazing. It was fantastic. They
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: got smoked unfortunately three to one. It was one nil
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: and then they scored three straight.
• 41:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, left fine, Yeah, I left five minutes. But
• 41:19
  Speaker 3: the new stands nice. Yeah, that's pretty pretty cool. All right,
• 41:22
  Speaker 3: let's come back. Kai, Thanks appreciate it. You have a
• 41:25
  Speaker 3: great one tonight. That's Kai Stevens, who's been busy.
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: Carrying what I can the last few weeks. Very nice,
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: very nice. Back with more injury report when we return.
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  Speaker 3: This is Jaguars Happy Hour. Yeah, you know it come over.
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: You know we all got team by the time we
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: all got to sit there in the grove and look
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: at each other's face all.
• 42:06
  Speaker 3: Day, you know, all day. Yeah man, I'm hollday. So
• 42:12
  Speaker 3: you know, it's an energy thing. I feel like it
• 42:14
  Speaker 3: came back.
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: We had a great pratacy today, but we just got
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: to take care of the little things and go out
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: and insecure high love Oh.
• 42:19
  Speaker 3: Of is cartavious tank Bigsby in the locker room.
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: This week, Jaguars running back Welcome back. It's Jaguars Happy Hour,
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  Speaker 2: JP Shatterwick floggingman our thanks to Kay Stevens joining us
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: each and every week. Yeah, Tank Bigsby another one hundred
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: yard game, two in the last three weeks, of course,
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: and put together a fantastic effort last time out at
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: Wembley and hoping to carry that over this week. We'll
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: see the status of Travis et and Junior again. We'll
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: see what happens with that ham string. But ham strings
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: are not good for running backs.
• 42:53
  Speaker 3: No, no, yeah, so look very very good that they
• 43:01
  Speaker 3: have the running back room that they do. And the
• 43:05
  Speaker 3: emergence obviously of Bigsby has been huge for this offense.
• 43:10
  Speaker 3: And when each end gets back. You know, there's been
• 43:14
  Speaker 3: so many questions that Doug, I think in the last
• 43:16
  Speaker 3: couple of weeks really about, you know, does Bigsby become
• 43:20
  Speaker 3: your starter? And I've been kind of a little bit
• 43:24
  Speaker 3: I don't want to say myths, but confused by the
• 43:27
  Speaker 3: question because you know, look, each guy does different things well,
• 43:31
  Speaker 3: and you can have two running backs that essentially are
• 43:34
  Speaker 3: co starters. It's okay, well, I mean one's going to
• 43:37
  Speaker 3: be on the field the first play of the game
• 43:40
  Speaker 3: exactly your starter, and and the other part of that
• 43:43
  Speaker 3: that I want to say, I'm mythed By. I'm also
• 43:45
  Speaker 3: kind of surprised by the answer and that Doug says, well, hey, look,
• 43:50
  Speaker 3: you can't lose your job because of injury. It happens
• 43:53
  Speaker 3: all the time in the National Football League. Guys lose
• 43:57
  Speaker 3: their jobs because of injury all the time. Happens Drew
• 44:02
  Speaker 3: Bledsoe lost his job because of an injury, and then
• 44:05
  Speaker 3: Tom Brady came in and then never came out. Trent Green,
• 44:08
  Speaker 3: Trent Green, Saint Thwait with Kurt Warner. Okay, it happens,
• 44:13
  Speaker 3: and so I wish that Doug had said, hey, look,
• 44:17
  Speaker 3: we really kind of have two starters here, and this
• 44:20
  Speaker 3: it's all about team, and you know, we're gonna do
• 44:23
  Speaker 3: what's best for the team.
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: I mean, in reality, when Travis is back, he's gonna
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: play something, and they're both gonna play like they did before.
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: I don't know exactly the percentage of snaps they're both
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: gonna be on the field certain situations Travis is really
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: good for and the Tanks getting better at.
• 44:39
  Speaker 3: All of it. Tank's still not the receiver though, correct. Okay,
• 44:43
  Speaker 3: you're saying he's getting better at all of it. I
• 44:45
  Speaker 3: don't say not all of it. He didn't he dropped
• 44:48
  Speaker 3: the ball last week. He dropped the ball on what
• 44:50
  Speaker 3: would have been maybe a fifty yard gain on a screen.
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: Because that in theory, that gives the defense a queue,
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: Well what's coming if he's out on the field, right.
• 45:01
  Speaker 3: I mean, well, yeah, yes, and no, I mean yeah,
• 45:03
  Speaker 3: I mean you got you. But you have to play
• 45:04
  Speaker 3: to the strengths of the running back. I mean you
• 45:06
  Speaker 3: can still kind of confuse defense and it's not always
• 45:09
  Speaker 3: going to be a run in Tank Big Toby. You know,
• 45:11
  Speaker 3: when he's in on the field, you can still pass it.
• 45:13
  Speaker 3: Play action is a huge part of that. But but yeah,
• 45:17
  Speaker 3: I just you really have two really good, starting caliber
• 45:22
  Speaker 3: running backs. Etn is a is an excellent, excellent receiver
• 45:27
  Speaker 3: out of the backfield, catches balls that most running backs
• 45:29
  Speaker 3: would not catch. And so that's a really good thing.
• 45:34
  Speaker 3: And let give credit to de Ernest Johnson. He had
• 45:37
  Speaker 3: a solid game, solid game. He kind of took over
• 45:41
  Speaker 3: that role that Etn kind of had filled. But more
• 45:44
  Speaker 3: than that too, he he does a really good job
• 45:47
  Speaker 3: in the running game, you know, the straight running game.
• 45:49
  Speaker 3: Given Tank blows and but Tank's got great endurance too
• 45:56
  Speaker 3: to be able to stay on the field for the
• 45:57
  Speaker 3: number of possessions, you know, twenty six carries. I mean
• 45:59
  Speaker 3: you talking about a workhorse effort that he really didn't
• 46:02
  Speaker 3: look tired or slow on any of those snaps.
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: Jernie Johnson's path is pretty fascinating to an undrafted guy
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: and then went fishing for an offseason and then signed
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: in the UFL and with the.
• 46:16
  Speaker 3: Team that the league folded, and.
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: Then got latched on with a team and kind of
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: just hung around and built his career up and he's
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: still at it, so he's been good player things. Time
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: now for the injury report presented by Baptist Health, changing
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  Speaker 2: healthcare for good, and let's start with your Jacksonville Jaguars
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: and Eric Armstead defensive end with a shoulder injury limited
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: both days in practice, Gabe Davis battling a knee issue,
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: limited both days. Evan Ingram with a hamstring injury limited Wednesday,
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: full today, Travis et and junior hamstring limited both days,
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: says he O to Maywoe defensive tackle calf injury limited
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: both days. Cam Robinson in concussion protocol, did not practice Wednesday,
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: limited today. That's a step in the right direction. We'll
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: see what happens tomorrow, and if they clear him by
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: the weekend, we'll get to this conversation in a moment.
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: Fo Yer looking with a foot issue limited both days.
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: His windows open of course. Andrew Winger knee injury limited
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: both days. Now, if Cam Robinson clears protocol, does he
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: get back in the lineup at left tackle?
• 47:22
  Speaker 3: Is Walker Little done enough to play and have it?
• 47:25
  Speaker 4: Well?
• 47:25
  Speaker 3: It was an injury, right, so he can't lose his
• 47:27
  Speaker 3: job because of an injury. I don't know. Uh, I'm
• 47:32
  Speaker 3: going to go back and I'm say this again. People
• 47:34
  Speaker 3: lose their jobs to injury all the time, and it
• 47:36
  Speaker 3: doesn't mean that you're going to lose it for the
• 47:38
  Speaker 3: long term. I think you also can be a little
• 47:41
  Speaker 3: bit cautious with a player coming back from the concussion
• 47:44
  Speaker 3: protocol to maybe, you know, hold him out and even
• 47:48
  Speaker 3: if he clears, let's say he clears the protocol and
• 47:52
  Speaker 3: he's eligible to come back, you say, hey, look, let's
• 47:55
  Speaker 3: just make sure that we get him back completely and
• 47:58
  Speaker 3: we can play Walker Little this week, because reality is
• 48:00
  Speaker 3: Walker Little played his rear end off. If he's cleared
• 48:03
  Speaker 3: then he's cleared that starting left tackle here since twenty seventeen.
• 48:08
  Speaker 3: If he's cleared and doesn't play, that's a massive story.
• 48:12
  Speaker 3: I don't know about massive. I mean it's it's a
• 48:15
  Speaker 3: it's a story. It's a story. Yeah, but I don't
• 48:17
  Speaker 3: know about massive. It's a big deal to me. Yeah,
• 48:20
  Speaker 3: Guy's been the story left tackles for two players, and
• 48:23
  Speaker 3: I think it would be all. I think it would
• 48:25
  Speaker 3: also become a bit of a story if he's cleared
• 48:28
  Speaker 3: because of what Doug said about the running back position
• 48:31
  Speaker 3: with ETN and all that. Yeah, to that extent. But
• 48:36
  Speaker 3: the fact is is that Walker Little played very well.
• 48:40
  Speaker 3: Was there a great player on the other side of
• 48:43
  Speaker 3: him that he had to block? No. But the one
• 48:46
  Speaker 3: thing that Walker did which was really good in the game,
• 48:51
  Speaker 3: and Biselli thinks he had the highest grade of any
• 48:53
  Speaker 3: offensive lineman, and I would not disagree with that. The
• 48:56
  Speaker 3: thing that he did the best was that how he's
• 48:58
  Speaker 3: strained in the running game, how he finished and he's
• 49:02
  Speaker 3: got his footwork was really solid. And that's always been
• 49:06
  Speaker 3: a little bit better than Cam. And the part that
• 49:09
  Speaker 3: I think that Cam's lost a little bit is some
• 49:12
  Speaker 3: of the finish that he used to have in the
• 49:15
  Speaker 3: run game. But the performance of Walker, you could argue
• 49:19
  Speaker 3: that it warrants another start, and if the guy has
• 49:26
  Speaker 3: to be put into the reserve lineup, maybe given another
• 49:31
  Speaker 3: week to get completely healthy with that concussion. Maybe, But
• 49:37
  Speaker 3: I agree it's going to be a story. It is
• 49:39
  Speaker 3: if he's cleared. If he's clear, If he's cleared, we'll
• 49:41
  Speaker 3: see Walker starts. Dennis the story because I mean for
• 49:47
  Speaker 3: a couple of different reasons, because he's been the left
• 49:48
  Speaker 3: tackle here for a while. Number two because of an injury.
• 49:52
  Speaker 3: We'll see them. By the way he got he got
• 49:54
  Speaker 3: rocked a couple of times. Yeah, you know, in the
• 49:57
  Speaker 3: first five plays of the game, he took a hit
• 49:59
  Speaker 3: from the linebacker and then a defensive lineman and you
• 50:02
  Speaker 3: could just really see the violence of it, and I'm
• 50:06
  Speaker 3: sure it didn't feel very good.
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• 50:16
  Speaker 2: Coming up next, head coach Doug Peterson in studio and
• 50:20
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  Speaker 3: Thanks for listening to Jaguars Happy Hour.