Latest / Best of Business / Jenee Tibshraeny: NZ Herald Wellington business editor on whether we can expect changes to corporate tax rates
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- 0:16Speaker 2: Right.
- 0:17Speaker 3: Nikola Willis has spent the past three days hinting at
- 0:20Speaker 3: changes to company taxes. It all started when I asked
- 0:22Speaker 3: her about it on Monday.
- 0:24Speaker 4: We're not as competitive as we used to be. We
- 0:27Speaker 4: can't take tax off the table because it could make
- 0:30Speaker 4: a difference to our competitiveness. We always have to balance
- 0:34Speaker 4: that against our other pressing needs.
- 0:36Speaker 3: We are at twenty eight percent, Singapore is at seventeen,
- 0:40Speaker 3: and Ireland, which we love to compare ourselves to, at
- 0:42Speaker 3: eleven and a half percent. From memory. Since then, the
- 0:46Speaker 3: Finance Minister has been leaving a few more clues in
- 0:48Speaker 3: Janee Tips Trainey is The Herald's Wellington business editor. She's
- 0:51Speaker 3: with me tonight, good evening.
- 0:52Speaker 2: Evening, Ryan.
- 0:53Speaker 3: What else is the Finance Minister been saying?
- 0:57Speaker 2: Well, I had a chat to Nichola Willis after you did,
- 1:00Speaker 2: and I asked her about the foreign Investment fund tax regime.
- 1:04Speaker 2: Now this sounds awfully dry and boring, but the Inland
- 1:09Speaker 2: Revenue has actually been consulting on tweaking this. These tax rules.
- 1:14Speaker 2: Now these tax rules mean that if you have more
- 1:16Speaker 2: than fifty thousand dollars invested in offshore entities and companies
- 1:20Speaker 2: and shares, you could be penalized with the way you
- 1:24Speaker 2: have to pay tax. So rather than pay tax on
- 1:27Speaker 2: the dividend income that you receive, you pay tax on
- 1:30Speaker 2: a certain portion of what your investment is worth. So
- 1:33Speaker 2: it's a bit like a wealth tax. You know, you
- 1:34Speaker 2: pay tax on the value of the investment, even if
- 1:37Speaker 2: you're not actually getting any money from that investment. Now,
- 1:40Speaker 2: the concern among some people is that that rule could
- 1:44Speaker 2: deter wealthy migrants from staying in New Zealand. All Kiwis
- 1:49Speaker 2: who have earned lots of money overseas and invested overseas
- 1:51Speaker 2: from returning back here, you know, because migrants are more
- 1:55Speaker 2: likely to have more money invested overseas, and if the
- 1:59Speaker 2: tax burden on them is you know, fairly heavy handed
- 2:03Speaker 2: due to these rules, then that could cause them to leave.
- 2:07Speaker 2: And you know, same with was if they have a
- 2:08Speaker 2: bunch of money invested in offshore companies, that could prevent
- 2:12Speaker 2: them from from coming back to New Zealand. There's a
- 2:14Speaker 2: bit of it.
- 2:15Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's a really interesting point. I mean, as
- 2:18Speaker 3: you say, fifth, we haven't heard much about fifth, but
- 2:22Speaker 3: for those people it would be hugely beneficial if the
- 2:25Speaker 3: rules were to be changed.
- 2:26Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure. And I mean it's a tricky one
- 2:29Speaker 2: because for a lot of people you might be thinking, well,
- 2:31Speaker 2: if you have more than fifty thousand dollars invested offshore,
- 2:34Speaker 2: then you know, you don't really need a tax break.
- 2:37Speaker 2: You know, you're probably doing okay. But if the government
- 2:40Speaker 2: does want to attract wealthy foreigners to New Zealand, which
- 2:44Speaker 2: it says it does, then then this is something that
- 2:47Speaker 2: could be changed.
- 2:48Speaker 3: Now.
- 2:48Speaker 2: I talk to Robin Walker, who's a Deloitte tax partner,
- 2:51Speaker 2: and she said it could be changed so that you
- 2:53Speaker 2: actually just pay tax on the income you receive rather
- 2:57Speaker 2: than paying tax on a certain portion of your investment.
- 3:01Speaker 2: Nikola Willis said that she was receptive, that was a word,
- 3:04Speaker 2: receptive to hearing concerns and pop making a change. I
- 3:10Speaker 2: believe a whole bunch of people have actually submitted to
- 3:12Speaker 2: the IID on this, so it's definitely a live issue.
- 3:16Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 3:17Speaker 2: The Finance Minister also spoke to me a little bit
- 3:20Speaker 2: about potentially phasing in any tax changes, so she said
- 3:25Speaker 2: that she should make announcements at the budget on May
- 3:27Speaker 2: twenty second, and she suggested whilst she wanted to look
- 3:31Speaker 2: at some tax settings in the here and now, there
- 3:35Speaker 2: could also be some phasing. So you know, I'm reading
- 3:38Speaker 2: into I'm reading into it a lot, but that could
- 3:40Speaker 2: suggest she might they might signal something at the budget
- 3:43Speaker 2: but only implement it in the future, because of course,
- 3:46Speaker 2: you know, the books are not in good shape and
- 3:49Speaker 2: they'll be cognizant that if they're providing any tax breaks,
- 3:52Speaker 2: then you know, will that actually generate enough economic growth
- 3:57Speaker 2: and then enough additional tax revenue to not put the
- 4:00Speaker 2: books further in the read.
- 4:01Speaker 3: And it's how quickly that can happen to, isn't it. Janay,
- 4:03Speaker 3: Thank you very much for that excellent reporting. Jane Chipstraeney,
- 4:06Speaker 3: who's with us in New Zealand Herald Running and Business.
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