Latest / TFTC: A Bitcoin Podcast / #698: How the Money Printer Hijacked Your Health with Dr. Ahmad Ammous
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- 0:00You've had a dynamic where money has become freer than free.
- 0:10You talk about a Fed just gone nuts.
- 0:13All the central banks going nuts.
- 0:16So it's all acting like safe haven.
- 0:18I believe that in a world where central bankers are tripping over themselves to devalue their
- 0:23currency, Bitcoin wins.
- 0:25In the world of fiat currencies, Bitcoin is the victor.
- 0:28I mean, that's part of the bull case for Bitcoin.
- 0:31If you're not paying attention, you probably should be.
- 0:36Dr. Amad Amus, welcome to the show.
- 0:39Thanks, Marty. Thank you for having me.
- 0:42Like I was saying, this is going to be a good follow up to the previous episode with Jessica Rose and Kevin McKernan.
- 0:48We really talked about the corruption of the peer review system within medicine, which is just one area of it.
- 0:56you're a practicing doctor and you've been writing a lot and talking a lot about fiat medicine. So I
- 1:03think maybe we'll just start there, jump right into it. Fiat medicine, it's your term for what
- 1:09you think is wrong. With healthcare, let's just walk through the thesis. How does fiat money
- 1:15specifically corrupt medicine at the root level? And where do you see it most visibly day to day?
- 1:22Yeah.
- 1:22So thanks for the introduction.
- 1:26Medicine, the way it is right now, is not how medicine was practiced 100 years ago.
- 1:32Things are very different.
- 1:33And things are different in a bad way, in a monopolistic way, where pharmaceutical companies have taken over the practice of medicine.
- 1:44And this was not possible without big government, without the Federal Reserve that is funding all of this and allowing certain institutions to take over medicine and dictate how doctors get to practice.
- 2:02and so all of these problems started in the early 1900s so in 1903 the American Medical Association
- 2:09was formed and the purpose of the American Medical Association was to standardize the practice of
- 2:14medicine which sounds great on paper that you know oh we want all doctors to practice the same way so
- 2:21that there are no snake oil salesmen that everyone's up to up to a certain expectation
- 2:29But what actually happened is only pharmaceutical medicine was allowed to prosper.
- 2:37Only medical schools teaching pharmaceutical medicine were allowed to continue their practice.
- 2:44And everything else was shut down.
- 2:46And this is why we live in a current state where all other healing modalities are suppressed.
- 2:54And the only cure for anything is a pill.
- 2:57And I saw you were tweeting earlier today or earlier this week, prescription drugs are the third leading cause of death in the United States these days.
- 3:07Correct. I mean, this is like this is such a crazy statistic that, you know, if if we live in actually a honest world, everyone would be jumping on this and trying to figure out why.
- 3:19But this is like medications prescribed the way they should be prescribed are absolutely lethal.
- 3:26They lead to side effects.
- 3:28They lead to dysfunction in the body.
- 3:31They lead you in order to need other medications.
- 3:34And then these medications interact with each other.
- 3:36And, you know, so many of the problems that I see with patients are simply because of the medications that they're taking.
- 3:43And it's just pharmaceutical companies have such a huge propaganda and huge control over this entire field that nobody discusses this.
- 3:58Can you talk about some hard examples of the side effects really?
- 4:04Yeah, so I mean, the most prescribed medication in history are statins or cholesterol-lowering medications.
- 4:12And these are absolutely detrimental to the body because cholesterol is essential for all important functions in the body.
- 4:21So cholesterol is an essential fat that's needed to regenerate your cell membranes, regenerate your neurons in your brains, make hormones.
- 4:30It's needed for the immune system function.
- 4:34And this medication drops cholesterol levels significantly, leading to disastrous consequences throughout the body.
- 4:41So the way it's done is studies looking at statins only follow patients for five years maximum.
- 4:51Some of them are done for even just only months.
- 4:54They see that it lowers the cholesterol level and that necessarily, okay, so that is good for your heart and the product goes on the market.
- 5:02But if someone gets a disease, often serious ones, 10 years from now, nobody connects it to the statin.
- 5:08because there's no profit there.
- 5:13Honest researchers that make these connections
- 5:16and put that data out there,
- 5:18their material is not getting published.
- 5:20Journals are not going to accept their papers.
- 5:23And that's because all these journals are funded
- 5:26by the pharmaceutical industry.
- 5:30Yeah, go listen.
- 5:33No, you and I, but anybody listening to this
- 5:35should go listen to the episode with Jessica and Kevin
- 5:37because we dove deep into that pub peer and just the whole research complex
- 5:43and how it actually works, peer review and all of that.
- 5:47It's completely politicized and corrupted with money.
- 5:50But I think let's take a trip down memory lane and just talk about the history of this
- 5:57because this has been building for, I think, over a century.
- 6:00And you talk a lot about the Flexner Report and Rockefeller's influence specifically.
- 6:05what's the five minute sort of overview of that seed that was planted over a century ago?
- 6:11Yeah. So, you know, when you, the definition of a doctor back in the 1800s was there are many kinds
- 6:19of doctors. So there were what we call allopathic doctors, which is the tradition, which is the
- 6:25mainstream now Western sort of medicine, which works on suppressing symptoms, suppressing works
- 6:31on mostly getting rid of symptoms.
- 6:34That's how things are treated.
- 6:36But there are also other healing modalities
- 6:38that actually have a much longer history
- 6:41of being practiced all over the world.
- 6:45This includes homeopathy,
- 6:47which aims to treat things naturally,
- 6:56aim to understand the symptoms
- 6:59and give a treatment that's complementary to that to help the body recover on its own.
- 7:05Also, osteopaths and chiropractors were much more respected back then.
- 7:11And there were also naturopaths, which aim to heal people using just natural remedies, herbal remedies.
- 7:18So back then, someone who got sick would go to any one of these doctors.
- 7:22You had the choice.
- 7:24If you thought that Western medicine was better for you, if you thought the pill was better for you,
- 7:28you could go and do that. Then in 1903, the American Medical Association was formed in order
- 7:35to standardize the practice of medicine. And then in 1910, they hired someone by the name of Abraham
- 7:43Flexner, who wasn't really a doctor, but they hired them to the task of, we need to revamp and
- 7:51improve all of medical education in the U.S.
- 7:58So Flexner went around the entire country looking at medical schools, and he eventually
- 8:02decided that all medical schools that are not teaching pharmaceutical-based medicine
- 8:08need to be shut down.
- 8:11So all of these naturopathic medical school, osteopathic medical schools, all of these
- 8:16were shut down.
- 8:17So more than 60% of U.S. medical schools were shut down in the early 1900s.
- 8:24Flexner had strong ties to the pharmaceutical industry, and he was heavily funded also by the Rockefeller Foundation, where the Rockefeller Foundation also had heavy—
- 8:42Rockefeller's pharmaceutical products were used, were turned into pharmaceutical drugs.
- 8:46So there was a lot of benefit for them to push everyone to be on pills.
- 8:53Whether Rockefeller himself was aware of this is not clear because basically at a certain point, his foundation was just based on money he has given before and other people were running it.
- 9:04So I don't want to throw Rockefeller under the train, but definitely his foundation had a huge part to play in this.
- 9:12And so 60% of U.S. medical schools were shut down.
- 9:16Only doctors practicing pushing pills were allowed to prosper.
- 9:23And this is the disastrous system that we live in right now, where nobody looks at lifestyle.
- 9:29Nobody looks at natural treatments.
- 9:31Nobody looks at natural things that have been used for hundreds of years.
- 9:37The only cure is just a pill.
- 9:40Yeah, I've experienced, well, we have experienced this in our family.
- 9:46I mean, I've always been skeptical of the medical industrial complex, but post COVID,
- 9:52my wife, her skepticism increased significantly as well.
- 9:58And I mean, I feel fine sharing this.
- 10:01I know she's comfortable sharing it because I think we've talked to many other couples
- 10:04who've had troubles, but we had trouble conceiving our third child between after our second.
- 10:10And she went to doctors, went to push pills and do some injections and stuff.
- 10:16And she sort of faded that.
- 10:17And we went the naturopathy way.
- 10:18And after about six months of really fixing her diet and focusing on some herbal needs,
- 10:25we were able to conceive and have our third child.
- 10:29And something we experienced firsthand, this stuff does work.
- 10:33100%.
- 10:33And there's just hundreds and hundreds of years of knowledge about all these things.
- 10:38And overnight with the Flexner report, all of that was suppressed.
- 10:42And currently, you know, anyone who discusses natural ways of treatment is just simply labeled as a quack.
- 10:50And we've lost all of that knowledge, unfortunately.
- 10:55And it's really, really frustrating for me because I've worked so hard to become a doctor and I studied so long.
- 11:02I did 11 years of training in order to become a doctor.
- 11:05And I had to start from scratch to learn all these things.
- 11:09And I mean, this is pretty well known now, but it's, you look at the way that doctors are taught through the university system in the curriculum that's put before them. And nutrition is basically an overthought, an afterthought. You maybe have one class on it and it's not even really taken seriously.
- 11:30But this whole idea of preventative health care, particularly via good nutrition, is completely overlooked.
- 11:38It's all pills and remedies, synthetic remedies.
- 11:42Yeah, I had 40 minutes, one lecture that's 40 minutes long of nutritional education my entire medical career.
- 11:50And it was actually only, they just taught us how to dose insulin based on what patients ate.
- 11:57that's all the nutritional education that i uh that i've ever gotten and now having
- 12:04re-educated yourself how how much nutritional curriculum would you recommend for doctors like
- 12:12how important is is that aspect of of health it's it's extremely important and uh it's it's
- 12:19it's quite crazy to live in a world where doctors are tend to be some of the unhealthiest people you
- 12:24meet. And I have firsthand experience with this because I see them every day, my fellow physicians,
- 12:31and they just live in a plane where your daily choices don't matter. You know, disease is this
- 12:41thing that comes on you because of genetics, because of luck. And if you get sick, then you
- 12:48need pills. There's nothing you can do to prevent it. And your daily choices just don't matter.
- 12:54And this is the fundamental issue that needs to be addressed with any medical education that's going to be successful, which is lifestyle matters.
- 13:06Your day-to-day choices matter.
- 13:08And, you know, my coworkers think that I'm just crazy because I think about these things.
- 13:16They still haven't realized that, no, no, this is what actually works.
- 13:20And they're just so completely brainwashed by the system that they have no realization
- 13:26about how important this stuff is.
- 13:28No.
- 13:29And I guess let dive deeper into the incentives too because I think somebody in the turn of the 20th century 1900
- 13:42were to see what the healthcare system looked like today,
- 13:45they'd be completely petrified at the state of healthcare.
- 13:51And hopefully, conversely, we can look back 50, 100 years,
- 13:56we can be in 2075, 2100, and look back and recognize like,
- 14:01that anomalous period between 1913 and the mid 21st century was completely insane.
- 14:09And I think both people in the past and in the future will look at the financial incentives
- 14:15and the corruption that money has introduced to the medical system specifically
- 14:20and pinpoint that as the core problem at the root of this issue
- 14:26is just the monetary incentives that exist to push bills.
- 14:31Yes, if readers are interested in actually digging through the weeds of who actually led to this entire system being the way it is, a very helpful book is called Murder by Injection by Eustace Mullins.
- 14:45And he is the same person that wrote The Secrets of the Federal Reserve.
- 14:48And it's quite fascinating to see the same characters who were involved in creating the Federal Reserve, either them directly or their cousins or their best friends, were also involved in creating the medical system.
- 15:04Both are centralized.
- 15:07Both are aimed to just control people.
- 15:11And it's not a coincidence that they happened at the same time.
- 15:15And you could argue that probably the hijacking of the medical system is ultimately the strongest way they were able to control people.
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- 17:02I think it's important too to highlight just how centralized it is because we're focusing on Big Pharma,
- 17:06but there's multiple sort of players in this realm of centralized medicine.
- 17:10and obviously a big pharma with the incentive to get the pills pushed because they're going to make
- 17:15a ton of money. But now you have the hospital systems, which are becoming highly centralized,
- 17:23and then paired with the hospital systems, you have big insurance, and then paired with big
- 17:28insurance, now you have the federal government stepping in, or at least for the last 12 years,
- 17:34with Obamacare, the American Care Act, here in the United States specifically, and they all
- 17:40sort of have this symbiotic relationship where they're all trying to basically grift and make
- 17:47things as expensive and least effective as possible so they can increase their bottom line.
- 17:53Yes. And probably, I mean, the most centralized aspect about this is the issue of medical
- 18:00guidelines. So, you know, a physician nowadays can't just go and practice medicine the way they
- 18:07like. So, you know, there's a lot of information out there about what's the best thing to do for
- 18:13a patient. So certain societies started forming, let's say the American College of Cardiology
- 18:21or the American Family Physicians Association, et cetera, to try and create guidelines or
- 18:28just easier summaries for physicians to follow. And which sounds great on paper, you know,
- 18:36we're just going to simplify it so that not every physician has to read every paper out there.
- 18:41There's actually an estimate that in primary care alone, around 1,500 papers a day are published.
- 18:47So it's impossible for a physician to just read all of these every day.
- 18:53And so these guidelines were written there to kind of streamline the process.
- 18:58but what is the crazy thing about this is all these societies that write the guidelines are
- 19:05heavily funded by pharmaceutical industry it'd be a society of like nine doctors and eight of them
- 19:13would have ties to pharmaceutical industry they pay them to go to on vacation they give them
- 19:18research grants they uh they give them gifts frequently and so all of these guidelines are
- 19:26of course favored to certain medications and usually expensive medications rather than
- 19:32generics that can be cheaper and help people save.
- 19:36And then these guidelines are actually used to go after physicians.
- 19:43So if you're not following the guidelines, if you are not following what the pharmaceutical
- 19:47company wants you to do, you're at risk of losing your license.
- 19:51you are medically liable if you practice something that wasn't following the guidelines
- 19:57you're at risk of going to jail so say say someone has high cholesterol and I believe that high
- 20:05cholesterol is not bad high cholesterol is actually good for you if I don't put them on a statin
- 20:12and they get a heart attack which high cholesterol is not a link to heart attacks
- 20:18I am legally liable if they get that heart attack
- 20:22however if I do put them on statins
- 20:24and the statins themselves
- 20:25actually increase inflammation in the body
- 20:27and could lead to heart attacks
- 20:29and they do get a heart attack
- 20:31then I'm not legally liable
- 20:32because I follow the guidelines
- 20:33so it's absolutely insane
- 20:37it's just completely captured
- 20:38and nobody can see past this insanity
- 20:41without
- 20:41if you dare speak against this
- 20:44you're going to be ostracized
- 20:45you're going to be called a quack
- 20:46and you're just not going to be heard.
- 20:50You're not going to get published.
- 20:51And that's how the system maintains itself.
- 20:54Yeah, I think there's a massive cognitive dissonance problem
- 20:59within the medical industry.
- 21:02A lot of people are making a lot of money
- 21:04and they've spent a lot of time.
- 21:06There's also a sunk cost fallacy
- 21:07where you spend a lot of time and money on your education
- 21:11and your residency and your career.
- 21:13And you don't want to believe that you went through this system
- 21:16that is not what you believe it is actually at the end of the day.
- 21:21But with that being said, again, post-COVID,
- 21:22I do think there has been somewhat of an awakening within the medical field.
- 21:28At least I've had a number of doctors that have come on the show
- 21:32that have left the sort of centralized medical system,
- 21:35started their own direct primary care practices and marketing.
- 21:40Like, hey, I'm not part of this system.
- 21:42I'm going direct to the patient.
- 21:45Are you optimistic that there are more people within your field beginning to recognize this and sort of branch off and try to do things different way?
- 21:54Yeah. I mean, every physician knows that something's wrong.
- 21:58You know, they're working hard.
- 22:00They're trying to get people healthy, but nothing's working.
- 22:03And people just keep getting sicker.
- 22:05And the system's overburdened, that everybody's overworked.
- 22:09Everybody knows that.
- 22:10What is causing it?
- 22:12Very, very few people are starting to realize this.
- 22:15But I think more and more people are starting to.
- 22:17So it is promising.
- 22:19And we are grateful that there's an internet where you can just post random things and you can learn so much by just going online.
- 22:28And it's really helping a lot of people.
- 22:32Yeah.
- 22:32And you mentioned there the system is sort of overburdened right now.
- 22:35I think a big driver of that is the insurance industry and this push towards universal free health care.
- 22:45And I think this ties back to sort of money corrupting it.
- 22:50You need price signals in a market.
- 22:52And this idea of universal health care, while it sounds good on paper, if you're a fifth grader or an ignorant adult who doesn't understand economics,
- 23:04and people really play to the heartstrings
- 23:09and the empathetic side of individuals
- 23:11not realizing that, hey, medicine
- 23:13and the service that doctors offer
- 23:16is a service that should be priced
- 23:21and there should be pricing signals in the market
- 23:22and this push for universal healthcare
- 23:24is completely corrupting that price signal
- 23:28and therefore overburning the system
- 23:31because priorities aren't able to be able,
- 23:33the opportunity cost doesn't exist. And so you don't know what to actually focus on.
- 23:38Yeah, 100%. I mean, an example I like to illustrate so that people understand this is
- 23:43if a random 70-year-old's knees start to hurt him, it's fine. He could run it off. He could
- 23:50take some pain medications and rest for a week, and then it'll be fine. It's quite different than
- 23:56if LeBron James' knee starts to hurt him. So there's no such thing as healthcare for everyone.
- 24:03It all depends on the context.
- 24:05It all depends on what do you want out of your knee?
- 24:09What do you want out of your eyes?
- 24:11What do you want out of your back?
- 24:13And so who gets to decide whether the 70-year-old whose knee hurt them,
- 24:20should they get an MRI for their knee?
- 24:22If you leave it up to the 70-year-old, of course he wants an MRI of his knee
- 24:26because it's free.
- 24:29LeBron James, his knee means a lot to him.
- 24:32he's willing to pay for an e-MRI.
- 24:36Because it's just a wide spectrum of how much you can investigate everything
- 24:41and how much workup you're going to do for everything and how much treatment.
- 24:45The only way to give universal health care is to just have a lot of governing bodies
- 24:50that are deciding, oh, does this patient deserve an MRI or not?
- 24:55Does the 70-year-old deserve an MRI or should we prioritize it to LeBron James instead?
- 25:00And once you do that, then you have an entire industry that's just there as a third party.
- 25:07They're just trying to decide, allocate resources to allocate healthcare resources.
- 25:14And this is how you end up with Canada, where you have to work.
- 25:17We have to wait for nine months in order to get an MRI.
- 25:20System is just, you know, it has to go to someone who's going to approve it.
- 25:24And then you're going to have to wait in line.
- 25:25And it's just once you separate the price signals, when you separate it from the free market, there's no way that that's going to work.
- 25:33Then you're just this is just communism.
- 25:36And so do you think the solution to this is more doctors breaking off to this direct primary care?
- 25:41Because that's what we've been using in my family.
- 25:43We've opted out of health insurance.
- 25:45We use CrowdHealth and then we supplement that with direct primary care doctors.
- 25:49And I find that the experiences are superior than sort of insurance networks of hospitals and pediatricians and physicians that you're thrown into.
- 26:05A hundred percent. I mean, we doctors are human beings.
- 26:08If you are interacting with people and offering services that want them that and you want to encourage them to come back so that they bring you more money, then the services we offer are going to be a lot better.
- 26:25Working in a system where everyone is insured and you're going to have to give everything to anyone, there's just no incentive for us to perform better.
- 26:35and
- 26:37you know that's why doctors are burnt out
- 26:40there's no incentive
- 26:41they are
- 26:43they're just working
- 26:45you know working a 9 to 5
- 26:48they don't really care about their patients
- 26:50their pay is not
- 26:52is not affected
- 26:54by how they treat their patients
- 26:56but all of the
- 26:58all doctors that have branched out of this system
- 27:00are so much happier
- 27:01and their patients are so much happier
- 27:03do you
- 27:05So what are the long term?
- 27:07Do you think the medical system will get fixed internally basically have people recognize like oh we need to decentralize this or do you think it be market forces like do you think a bitcoin standard
- 27:19is needed to fix the system from scratch yeah i think i think the system the way it is right now
- 27:26is going to collapse uh how bad it's going to get before it collapses like are people going to be
- 27:32dying outside of hospitals because there are no empty beds?
- 27:37Or are hospitals going to run out of equipment, basic equipment to treat people?
- 27:42It's certainly possible.
- 27:45How hospitals are right now, that's kind of the direction we're heading.
- 27:49So there is no hospital in the U.S. right now that's not on overcapacity.
- 27:54There are people in the hallways.
- 27:56People wait in the emergency room for two days before they get a bed upstairs.
- 27:59You wait 20 hours before being seen in the emergency room.
- 28:03So these are all just indications of imminent collapse.
- 28:08Whether the system understands that it needs to go back to a free market standard before it collapses, hopefully that happens.
- 28:20And it also depends on how soon the entire world is just going to shift to a Bitcoin standard and we get rid of all this mess.
- 28:27a little tangential but i think it's all connected and i've talked to your brother
- 28:32about this too because it is crazy if you just look at a hospital like the architecture of it
- 28:38the the physical landscape of it the fluorescent lights the beeping noises they're i mean you spend
- 28:44a lot of time in these places i imagine they're not really uh they don't really engender a sense
- 28:51of inspiration or very sterile and uninspiring and not a place that you want to be.
- 29:00Whereas hospitals used to be these like grand buildings with tall windows, natural lights,
- 29:05and how much of the physical landscape of the modern hospital has been corrupted by
- 29:15this too?
- 29:16And is the form factor of a hospital this day detrimental to people's health?
- 29:21Yeah, I mean, hospitals are probably the most toxic place to be in currently in the world.
- 29:28Like you are better off if you can just heal yourself by staying in your bed, you're probably better off fighting this, whatever you have, than going to the hospital.
- 29:39If it's not serious enough that you actually need what's in the hospital.
- 29:42I always say like for my older patients, it's one thing for them to get over like whatever infection they're going through or whatever health condition.
- 29:53It's another thing for them to to survive the hospital stay because you're under fake light.
- 30:01You're not getting any care or attention because all the nurses are overworked.
- 30:06All the doctors are overworked.
- 30:08The food is toxic.
- 30:11it's beeping you can't sleep well it's it's really there's a term called delirium which is
- 30:18basically confusion that happens with other people and it's because you know they go to this place
- 30:23when they're sick and they can't sleep and the fake lights are on all night so they don't they
- 30:31they lose their circadian rhythm they don't know when it's day or when it's night and they end up
- 30:36just confused and delirious and your risk.
- 30:41There's a lot of people that die because of this,
- 30:43because the body just has no connection to reality anymore.
- 30:50And it's, it's really scary. And, uh,
- 30:54yeah, hospitals are a toxic place.
- 30:58Do you think we need to rebuild them from scratch? Like what, what,
- 31:01And what would if you were handed a handed a fascist authority over the hospital system, you were able to rebuild the physical buildings where we're sending people when they get sick, what would they look like?
- 31:15I mean, yeah, again, the entire why hospitals are so toxic is because nobody in the medical field thinks that the food that you eat or the lights that you're under or, you know, the quality of your sleep is going to affect the way you heal.
- 31:31You know, it's just if we give you these meds, things will magically improve and you'll get out of here and things will be magical.
- 31:38That's what textbooks teach you.
- 31:40That's what pharmaceutical industry wants you to believe.
- 31:42once we get to the point where we realize that all of these things are very important then yes
- 31:48you don't want it to be filled with blue fluorescent light all the time have natural
- 31:54lights in from windows use incandescent bulbs minimize artificial light that's also good that's
- 32:01all good minimize the devices so all these patients they're hooked on to like heart monitors
- 32:07when they come in.
- 32:08And this is all just, you know,
- 32:10emitting electromagnetic frequencies
- 32:12directly into their bodies
- 32:13the moment they walk in.
- 32:14That's also not great.
- 32:16And then the food, you know,
- 32:19they're given like typical
- 32:20American cafeteria food,
- 32:22you know, chicken fingers and fries.
- 32:25And the goal is to, you know,
- 32:28minimize the cost of how much
- 32:29this meal costs the hospital.
- 32:31But it's toxic to this patient.
- 32:33And it's all heart healthy.
- 32:36So they use vegetable seed oils and it's all low fat dairy and low fat meat.
- 32:42And, and it's, it's insane.
- 32:44It's insane.
- 32:45It's funny.
- 32:46And it wasn't like that because my mom and my aunts and my mother-in-law, my wife and
- 32:51I, we were born in the same hospital, um, late eighties, early nineties.
- 32:55And our moms talk fondly about the, uh, the steak dinners they were given steak and lobster
- 33:00after, uh, after they gave birth to us.
- 33:03And it was like, oh, you guys are getting steak and lobster.
- 33:05we got like OJ and like a little plastic cup and some chicken fingers,
- 33:10like in French fries.
- 33:12I was like for all three of our childbirths,
- 33:16I would just leave the hospital and go find good,
- 33:19healthy food and bring it back.
- 33:21It wasn't even worth taking the slop that they were offering.
- 33:23Yeah.
- 33:24Yeah.
- 33:25It's,
- 33:25uh,
- 33:25it's bullshit and it's bad for you.
- 33:30Well,
- 33:30you mentioned light too.
- 33:31That's another thing.
- 33:32So again,
- 33:33again,
- 33:33post COVID my wife is really,
- 33:35leaned into the natural solution.
- 33:38So she's changed all the light bulbs in our house to incandescent.
- 33:41And I think it's definitely had an effect on particularly like the boys, our sons.
- 33:48Like you can notice that they're much calmer because they're not subjected to these LED
- 33:52flashing lights all the time.
- 33:54Like talking about preventative care, obviously diet is heavy, but heavy focus.
- 34:00but how much is like natural light and avoiding LED, fluorescent lighting,
- 34:07and other things, just getting out, walk, exercise generally.
- 34:12Yeah, it's 100%.
- 34:15It's so important.
- 34:16And some people argue that the light is even more important than the diet.
- 34:21A good way to understand this is in the cell itself,
- 34:26This is not a very, very known theory.
- 34:31It's not very well known.
- 34:33But the reality is in your cells, you don't actually directly use food to make energy.
- 34:40You actually use light to make energy.
- 34:44Food you use in order to regenerate the cells.
- 34:46So make cell membranes, make channels, make proteins and fats in order to regenerate your body.
- 34:53But how your cell is actually powered is from the light that you're exposed to.
- 35:00This includes visible and invisible light.
- 35:04So lights work on your cells, work on this molecule called melanin, which is light sensitive.
- 35:11And melanin splits water, creating an electric current.
- 35:17And this is the electric current that powers your entire body.
- 35:20The problem with blue LED bulbs, which only started in the 21st century, is that they only emit a very narrow spectrum of light that does not allow this process to happen efficiently.
- 35:37So you're not splitting water efficiently.
- 35:39You're not powering your cells the way you should.
- 35:45And this could be the reason why we all, the explosion of disease that we've seen over the last 20 years.
- 35:55Because we are all living under fake artificial light.
- 35:58We don't go out as much.
- 36:00And we're all definitely sun deficient.
- 36:04It is crazy to think that.
- 36:06It's even crazier to think about the Biden administration trying to ban incandescent lights because it hurts the climate.
- 36:13Exactly.
- 36:14the climate we got to worry about the climate so we can't use good lights and how i mean putting the
- 36:20tinfoil hat on like how much of that is pure virtue signaling for the climate versus they know
- 36:26that they are going to sort of disrupt the sort of natural health of of individuals and by extension
- 36:35their psychology make them more manic and depressed and more impressionable is there
- 36:42nefarious intentions behind it or is it simply just LARPing for the environment?
- 36:48I haven't read the direct data on this, but I follow Dr. Jack Cruz intensely. He is very well
- 36:58versed with this topic. And he says that DARPA basically has data that shows that blue light
- 37:05is able to control people by destroying their dopamine levels. And that's why blue light is
- 37:12just become prevalent everywhere.
- 37:16And I don't know what the intentions are.
- 37:20Dr. Cruz argues that it's definitely preconceived and it's definitely intentional.
- 37:28I know what the repercussions are and the repercussions are pretty bad.
- 37:32Speaking of repercussions too, it seems like at least the mainstream medicine and now even
- 37:38in the tech sector or in the silicon valley the solutions to the systemic health issues that
- 37:46exist in the united states and broadly in other parts of the world is to create these synthetic
- 37:52drugs that um that really help you get back to a better state that glp1s i think being
- 37:59the most popular over the last um the last few years so zembic goby and others like them
- 38:06uh mangero what what do you what do you think of this this trend this like oh we can just
- 38:13manufacture health these glp ones and peptides again it's just faulty faulty thing thinking of
- 38:20this is like the the complete fiat way of thinking about health which is health comes from something
- 38:27outside of me. Health is just, if I accumulate the correct series of pills, peptides, vitamins,
- 38:38then that's going to give me health. And it's just a completely fiat idea that's only started
- 38:44in the 20th century. It's the same as people thinking that inflation is necessary. It's that
- 38:50systemic. It's just completely false. And everything built on top of it is false.
- 38:55the reality is health starts from your daily choices every every everything you're eating
- 39:03the light you're exposed to every how you move these this is what makes you healthy and this is
- 39:08what people need to be putting all this effort on problem is is that we live in a fiat world where
- 39:14everybody has such a high time preference that nobody is willing to look into the future look
- 39:22into things that take some time to give them some benefit. So nobody's looking into their lifestyle.
- 39:27Everybody's just looking for the easy fix. And there's a lot of people that are just feeding
- 39:33into it. You know, Brian Johnson tells you that the key for him to live infinitely is to take 100
- 39:39supplements a day. And there are people that believe that they want to believe that because
- 39:43it's an easier fix than no, it's just look at your fridge, look at your lifestyle, look at how
- 39:49stressed you are, look at how you treat the people around you. It's a lot easier and therefore
- 39:55sells a lot better than the actual solution, but doesn't necessarily mean that it's going to work.
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- 42:11that uh he's getting very popular right now and again i don't want to come off like um
- 42:20pompous or anything it's like hey you were advocating for people to get the vaccine you
- 42:25got it yourself uh the covid vaccine specifically and that was another so the covid vaccine i was
- 42:32immediately skeptical because of operation warp speeds they're like hey we're going to get this
- 42:36vaccine out in nine months and everything up until that point that I've learned about vaccines and
- 42:42the safety of vaccines was like they need to be tested for more than a decade before you can
- 42:46deploy them to to the masses and when they were like oh we're gonna get this in nine months was
- 42:52immediately like okay based off of everything I've learned about vaccine safety up until this point
- 42:58in my life it just completely flies in the face of what we're supposed to be doing so I'm gonna
- 43:03avoid it um then you have others that didn't and we're not only didn't avoid it but we're
- 43:10championing it and going further in some cases and saying that you were a monster if you didn't
- 43:16get it yourself uh because you were protecting your fellow citizen uh and we're quickly learning
- 43:22a few years later that there are pretty terrible side effects to this increases in excess deaths
- 43:29turbo cancers uh heart issues um and similarly glp1s and i think early data is showing that
- 43:38there's problems with this too like we don't know how this is gonna to your point about high time
- 43:42preference very high and high preference particularly because we don't have enough
- 43:45data to know what the long-term ramifications of this going back to what you were saying earlier
- 43:51about statins it's pretty clear to me that we can see something very similar play out with glp1s
- 43:57in terms of the long-term effect on individual health.
- 44:02Yeah, the pharmaceutical industry is not interested in the long-term consequences.
- 44:06This is just, it's up to you to deal with them.
- 44:10And it's the biggest scam how these drugs are allowed into the market without intensive testing.
- 44:22And the people who are approving these drugs, people that work in the FDA, they're known that once they quit their FDA jobs, they get very expensive, very well-paying jobs in these pharmaceutical companies.
- 44:37And there's a revolving door between the FDA and pharmaceutical companies.
- 44:41So you can't trust the people whose job is to determine the safety of these drugs.
- 44:50the classic leftist argument is that what we need to do is oh we need just stronger government
- 44:57that's not corrupt and we need people to you know we need to make sure that the centralized
- 45:03authority is has no relationship with pharma etc that is just you're just adding more power to the
- 45:09government and therefore you're making them a more lucrative target for corruption what actually
- 45:17needs to happen is we remove all the suppression of alternative medicine so that anyone who has
- 45:24a solution that they think works can put it out there and let the free market come up with ways
- 45:30to test these medications. So it doesn't have to be the FDA that approves them. What if there are
- 45:36private societies that start to run experiments on these drugs? And if you are interested in taking
- 45:43at GLP-1, you will probably be willing to pay some money to this private society to test it for
- 45:51you before. And you know that this society is not biased. They are not government employees.
- 45:59You know that they're not corrupt. And they have to put their financial ties out there.
- 46:03There are so many ways we can just optimize the system
- 46:06by having government get their hands off it.
- 46:11And this is what hopefully life on a Bitcoin standard would look like.
- 46:16And the future is exciting once we get to that point.
- 46:21Yeah. I mean, you think of Scott Gottlieb going from the FDA to the board of Pfizer.
- 46:28Then he's on CNBC and all the talking head shows really pushing it and advocating.
- 46:33He literally went from the FDA to he was Pfizer's representative on a bunch of these talking head shows and very few people, obviously yourself, myself and others that are like minded.
- 46:46We're like, this is an obvious conflict of interest here.
- 46:48Like, how is this even possible?
- 46:50But it is the status quo of how this revolving door works.
- 46:56The entire Purdue Pharma and OxyContin and what led to the opioid epidemic in the US, which has killed up for 200,000 people at least.
- 47:12All of this, the drug was approved by one person in the FDA who, after he finished his role in the FDA, got a job at Purdue Pharma where he was getting around $350,000 a year.
- 47:26this entire thing was just because this someone made a few million dollars.
- 47:33That's it.
- 47:34This is how powerful, how easily corruptible the system is.
- 47:38And when you have an organization that's as big as FDA,
- 47:43you are at risk of just the system being captured.
- 47:46And this is the system we live in right now.
- 47:49Yeah.
- 47:49I mean, speaking of that, obviously, there was this big push for Maha,
- 47:53uh, RFK getting into health and human services.
- 47:57And it seems like they're trying to shake things up at FDA,
- 48:00but what's your perspective?
- 48:01Are they, um, making any progress?
- 48:04Is it, are they just being consumed by the centralized beast?
- 48:11Are we moving in the right direction?
- 48:13I mean, it's clear that he's causing some ripples.
- 48:15Uh, it's not, uh, it's not as much change as I would have liked,
- 48:20but it's clear that he's fighting a huge beast that is not easy to shake off.
- 48:27But him, now that the hepatitis B vaccine is off the schedule, that's huge.
- 48:33And just one thing, one small change can lead people to start questioning.
- 48:38And this is what we need.
- 48:40The beast is just so big that it's very difficult for him to change everything.
- 48:44But I think even though he has had to water down his message a lot,
- 48:49he is causing some changes. So that's promising. But again, I believe that ultimately the solution
- 48:56is not going to come from the government the way we imagine it. The solution is going to come
- 49:01once we make this government just a lot weaker than it is right now.
- 49:06Yeah. Well, in the interim, I mean, I think we've talked a lot about sort of doctors branching off
- 49:12going direct primary care, but what advice would you give to someone who's frustrated with their
- 49:18current doctor, doesn't know how to find a physician, like what would you, how would you
- 49:22advise the consumer of healthcare to contribute to the fixing of this problem? Yeah. I mean, if,
- 49:29if you don't have any doctors in your community that you trust, direct primary care doctors that
- 49:33are less heavy on pushing pills or, uh, I think online you'll, you'll find a lot of good resources.
- 49:41So you can research things a lot and don't rely on just Google and chat GPT to tell you what actually works because they base their data on the most popular health websites, which are all pharmaceutical funded or based from a big hospital.
- 50:03So do your own research.
- 50:04The best way I recommend is try and find people who you trust what they say, you trust their opinions on medicine.
- 50:13Follow them, see what accounts they follow, see what sort of things they recommend.
- 50:19And I think more and more doctors are going to start offering online services that you can get health advice, you can get recommendations online.
- 50:29And I think people should start actively looking for that.
- 50:32And then beyond that, before they even need to get to a doctor, if they hear what you're saying, they're like, okay, I need to focus more on preventative health care, get my lifestyle in order, improve my lifestyle, improve my health.
- 50:49What are sort of the lowest hanging fruits, first steps that you recommend people take?
- 50:54Yeah.
- 50:55So, I mean, the first thing to know is that diet is the cornerstone of health.
- 50:59And do we have time to go into a bit more details of diet or do you want me just?
- 51:06Yes.
- 51:07Yeah.
- 51:07We have plenty of time.
- 51:08Great.
- 51:08So, yeah, I mean, there's a lot of confusing information out there about what the ideal human diet is.
- 51:16And there's a lot of extreme diets that might not be effective for everyone.
- 51:22What I tell people is that the most helpful resource I found to understand diet is the work of this dentist called Weston Price.
- 51:32So Weston Price was this dentist in the early 1900s.
- 51:35That was the time when vegan and vegetarian diets were starting to get popular.
- 51:40And everyone thought that a vegetarian diet is the ultimate human diet.
- 51:47So Weston Price, what he did, he actually traveled the world going to tribes that haven't been touched by industrialization.
- 51:56These tribes, you know, had their local diets that haven't changed in hundreds or thousands of years.
- 52:07And so he went and saw what these people ate.
- 52:09And what he found is that these people tended to be very healthy because they haven't been touched by processed food yet.
- 52:15and what all these tribes had in common is that they all had an animal-based diet.
- 52:24So the cornerstone of their diet was animal meat and fat
- 52:27and whatever else grows in the environment locally.
- 52:32So he went there trying to prove that a vegetarian diet is healthy,
- 52:36but what he actually found is the opposite,
- 52:38is that animal meat and fat were always appreciated by these older societies.
- 52:44So I think the ideal human diet should be built around animal protein and fat.
- 52:52And this should be the cornerstone of your diet.
- 52:55It should be there in every meal that you eat.
- 52:58If a meal doesn't have animal protein or fat, then it's not a meal.
- 53:03And whatever you eat on the side, I don't recommend that.
- 53:07I don't think a carnivore diet is for everyone.
- 53:09I don't think a keto diet is for everyone.
- 53:11But I think what's really helpful is to eat whatever grows locally in your environment.
- 53:18So if you live in the East Coast of the United States, you're not going to have pineapples in December.
- 53:24You're not going to have mangoes in December.
- 53:26And funnily enough is that your metabolism is affected by the light that you're exposed to.
- 53:32so you are less able to handle the sugars from this pineapple
- 53:37in December versus if you get it in the summer
- 53:42so eat whatever grows locally in your environment
- 53:45and of course avoid anything that's processed
- 53:48anything that comes from a factory
- 53:49this I think is the cornerstone of a healthy diet
- 53:52and if people do that
- 53:54then you've gotten 80% of the benefit
- 53:58with only 20% of the work
- 54:00If you want to complicate things further, you can, but this is just a very good starting point.
- 54:05No, it is crazy how eating local, how humans are connected to their locality.
- 54:10And the one example that I always have fun telling people is that when we moved to Texas, cedar fever was a real thing for me, cedar fever for the first few months.
- 54:22And then I had somebody tell me like, hey, you need to go find some raw local honey and eat that today.
- 54:28you're really getting exposed to these these pollens um and incorporating them into your body
- 54:35and that's exactly what i did and i didn't have cedar fever for the rest of my the time i was
- 54:43living in austin and it's it's crazy how something as simple as that can contribute to to better
- 54:50health? Yeah, it's quite simple. There's a lot of confusing information about diet, but I think
- 54:58that's a great way to start. Eat from a local farmer's market. Whatever grows there is whatever
- 55:03is local and get a good butcher and you are solving 90% of the problems. Another very important
- 55:11thing about preventive health is the light that you're exposed to. So most of us these days are
- 55:18not getting enough sunlight. You want to try and be outside every day. Even if it's cloudy,
- 55:25try and go outside. You're still getting healthy rays of sunlight coming to your body. Even if
- 55:33your body is entirely covered up, even if just your eyes being exposed to the sun is good.
- 55:39What I recommend for people is aim for at least 10 minutes of morning sunlight before it's 10 a.m.
- 55:46Go outside 10 minutes, looking in the general direction of the sun.
- 55:51That's just going to upgrade your metabolism for the entire day,
- 55:54start, ramp up your metabolism,
- 55:56and it's going to make you feel so much better for the rest of the day.
- 55:59If you are in an environment where you're under artificial light a lot,
- 56:05whether it's your office, et cetera,
- 56:07try and go outside and take frequent breaks.
- 56:10So go outside at noon again and then go again in the afternoon.
- 56:14this being outside in the sun reconnects uh uh you your circadian rhythm to the sun
- 56:22recalibrates it and this uh fixes all your hormones and neurotransmitters for for that day
- 56:30and speaking of circadian rhythm it's funny because that when we're doing a natural
- 56:36we're going the natural path to get my wife's um body more in sync and preparation for her third
- 56:44child that was the the first advice she got from her doctor was hey go outside before 10 a.m and
- 56:51make sure you're getting sunlight particularly before 10 a.m but bring this because it kicks
- 56:56off your circadian rhythm your metabolism get your neurotransmitters firing and um but on this
- 57:03point of circadian rhythm, how important is sleep to all this as well?
- 57:06Sleep is very important. And what people don't realize is that sleep is the most important
- 57:12regenerative phase in your body to try and get rid of inflammation, to get rid of
- 57:17toxicity, to get rid of free radicals. And even if people sleep seven hours at night and wake up
- 57:25refreshed, there are still levels you can improve your sleep better. And I think the major thing
- 57:32disturbing our sleep these days is artificial light exposure after sunset.
- 57:38This is a very very important and it a low yield fruit for anyone who trying to improve their health is after sunset you want to limit the amount of artificial light you exposed to So blue LED bulbs are the worst Try and replace them with either candle light
- 57:56or incandescent bulbs. But even with incandescence, you want to try and minimize the light that you're
- 58:02supposed to because that fake light that you're exposed to at night disturbs the synthesis of
- 58:10melatonin in your body. And melatonin is important not only to make you sleep, but it also has a lot
- 58:17of important regenerative properties in the body, including anti-cancer and anti-inflammatory
- 58:23properties. So be very conscious of the light that you're exposed to, and that will help your sleep
- 58:30significantly. Somebody who values the sleep, I can't operate on less than seven hours, which
- 58:36um if i don't get at least seven hours i'm pretty thrown off for the for the whole day
- 58:43and that's um the light it's something too it's like i'm looking at a screen here i've got another
- 58:49uh monitor right to my left here and it's like something that is anomalous maybe not anomalous
- 58:57but it's just new in the last three decades is like humans particularly the workforce most of it
- 59:03at least white collar work.
- 59:04And this is our lives
- 59:06is standing in front of these
- 59:07blue light emitting screens
- 59:09for hours upon hours every day,
- 59:12day in and day out.
- 59:12And then you add the phone to it
- 59:14and it's like most people
- 59:19never stood a chance.
- 59:19Yeah.
- 59:21I don't usually recommend gadgets.
- 59:23I'm not a Brian Johnson kind of figure,
- 59:26but if there's one gadget
- 59:28that people should invest in,
- 59:29it's blue blocking glasses.
- 59:30so what these do is
- 59:33they have red lenses
- 59:35and what they do is that they allow
- 59:37they don't allow the blue spectrum
- 59:39of light to come into your eyes
- 59:41and it's very important
- 59:43because your circadian rhythm
- 59:45is set on
- 59:47based on
- 59:48how much blue light you're exposed to
- 59:51so you can get the other spectrum
- 59:53of light but as long as you're not getting
- 59:55that much blue light
- 59:56it still allows your
- 59:59melatonin to continue
- 1:00:00being synthesized. So what I recommend is after sunset, wear these blue blocking glasses so that
- 1:00:06even if you're exposed to blue light in your environment, at least your eyes are not getting
- 1:00:10exposed to them. And you're going to notice that the quality of sleep is just so much better once
- 1:00:16you start using them. Yeah. I've got to pick up a pair of those. I typically stay up a little later
- 1:00:22writing as well. Yeah. I used to think it was just, you know, just a gadget that's not helpful
- 1:00:28because I thought my sleep was very good.
- 1:00:31But once I tried them,
- 1:00:32my quality of sleep just became so much deeper
- 1:00:34and so much more refreshing.
- 1:00:37And you feel so much better the next day.
- 1:00:40All right, I got to pick these up
- 1:00:41and throw it on the Christmas list.
- 1:00:43To wrap this up though,
- 1:00:45really leaning into the Bitcoin standard
- 1:00:49and how it can help medicine.
- 1:00:51Again, from a doctor's perspective,
- 1:00:54so I've talked about this
- 1:00:57in many different capacities,
- 1:00:58I know there a health services account company getting started up like a health savings account company if you want to basically do a personal sort of health care budget
- 1:01:12using Bitcoin over the long term
- 1:01:15to basically make sure that you can pay for medical expenses
- 1:01:19because you're saving in a money
- 1:01:22that is going to increase purchasing power.
- 1:01:24I've heard of doctors incorporating it into their practices
- 1:01:29to make sure that they're able to have a sustainable business.
- 1:01:33Obviously, health insurance seems like a low-hanging fruit
- 1:01:35if you have long-duration sort of health cost liabilities
- 1:01:40that you need to line up.
- 1:01:42Bitcoin is a perfect long-duration asset to pair there.
- 1:01:45Where do you see Bitcoin being introduced into the medical system
- 1:01:49to help doctors and patients?
- 1:01:52Yeah, I think it has very important uses in the health space.
- 1:01:57Firstly is, you know, there have been a lot of doctors that speak out against the system.
- 1:02:05And, you know, they get repercussions where their funds are canceled, their bank accounts are confiscated, etc.
- 1:02:15So there are repercussions on free speech with people using fiat money.
- 1:02:21But if doctors that want to speak out start getting paid in Bitcoin,
- 1:02:26then if the people who like what you're saying, they can just send you Bitcoin directly.
- 1:02:32There doesn't have to be a third party that's meddling in between.
- 1:02:37And so that's going to help with doctors speaking out against the system
- 1:02:41and hopefully people getting out of this fiat system.
- 1:02:45another aspect of this is one of the main problems with modern medicine these days is that
- 1:02:53all the small practices are getting taken over by bigger practices bigger hospital groups bigger
- 1:03:00clinics etc and the reason is is because you know small fish can't survive these days
- 1:03:06because you need to be big in order to get access to easy credit.
- 1:03:13So when we live in a debt-based society,
- 1:03:17the more debt that you can get, the more you're able to survive inflation.
- 1:03:24And so all these groups are getting taken over by bigger groups
- 1:03:31because bigger groups have easier access to loans.
- 1:03:34Once we get off this inflationary system, once we get on a Bitcoin standard, then still small doctors can still run their own practices.
- 1:03:42And I think that's going to be very helpful for their patients.
- 1:03:45And then finally, the most important part is, you know, people writing medical guidelines, people deciding what needs to be researched, people pushing pills on us.
- 1:03:56They all get their power from this big government that's all powerful.
- 1:04:06And how is this government so powerful?
- 1:04:08Because it has access to the money printer and unlimited amounts of money.
- 1:04:12So once we get rid of this money printer, then there's no big enemy that we're fighting anymore.
- 1:04:19And you know smaller doctors smaller clinics more free research more free medical guidelines can prosper And that going to help doctors practicing
- 1:04:33Now, that was one thing that Jessica, Kevin, and I covered.
- 1:04:36Again, this peer review process and the fact that it's completely centralized.
- 1:04:39They're trying to create a separate distributed peer review process and using Bitcoin bounties to get certain papers peer reviewed.
- 1:04:51So if you have a priority or if you're just interested in a particular ailment or area of study
- 1:05:00and you don't want to wait for the centralized peer review networks and journals and publishers
- 1:05:09to look at your work and take it seriously, you're just like, okay, let's use this system
- 1:05:14and we'll use a Bitcoin bounty program to incentivize people to do the research,
- 1:05:19to review these papers.
- 1:05:22And I think that makes a ton of sense to me.
- 1:05:25Yeah, that's where the future is heading.
- 1:05:27And smart people are already starting to realize this.
- 1:05:30They're creating their platforms online.
- 1:05:32They're getting funding from Bitcoiners.
- 1:05:34And the future is bright.
- 1:05:38It is bright.
- 1:05:39It's a white pill, the only pill I like to take here.
- 1:05:42Yes.
- 1:05:44Uh, Ahmad, this has been a pleasure. Where can anybody who's listening, find out more about your
- 1:05:51work, get in contact with you? Uh, if, um, if they have questions or, um, suggestions or they were
- 1:05:59inspired, where can people find more about you? Yeah. So, uh, on social media, on Instagram and
- 1:06:04X, I'm at Amos MD. Uh, I also, uh, have a free newsletter that people can sign to, uh, sign up
- 1:06:11for and at moosmd.com.
- 1:06:13And I also offer online consultations
- 1:06:15for those interested also on my website.
- 1:06:19Awesome.
- 1:06:20Well, this has been a pleasure.
- 1:06:21We'll have to do it again
- 1:06:22because I think there's definitely
- 1:06:25going to be some change
- 1:06:27in the field of medicine
- 1:06:30over the next many years,
- 1:06:32hopefully positive change.
- 1:06:33And we'll love to have you back on
- 1:06:36to discuss these things as they evolve.
- 1:06:39Great.
- 1:06:40Thanks, Marty.
- 1:06:41All right. Peace. Love freaks.
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