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Know the Enemy: Rutgers · Boundary Corner Podcast

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  And welcome back to the Boundary Corner podcast with my partners
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  Brian Siegel and Jonathan Talley.
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  I am Curtis Wilson and this episode is brought to you by
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  Doctor Jeremy Counts at the Main Street Pharmacy, your friendly
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  neighborhood pharmacy located at 301 S Main St. in Blacksburg.
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  Hey, I see. Y'all again.
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  What up, man? Y'all, y'all dried off yet?
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  No, he's still with So boys, first of all, regardless of out
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  coming again, we gonna get into that.
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  Don't worry. We got a lot of notes, we got a
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  lot of statements we want to make on that.
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  But this weekend, effectively, the entire crew was there.
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  Tally drove up from Bama, me and Siegel kicked in from Richmond,
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  swung by rolling out, picked up by music man Jason.
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  And then we effectively, we got, we got up with Sheldon.
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  Sheldon's not here tonight. He's working hard, young man,
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  working, making his career. And then finally, we got out
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  with Jeremy. We broke bread.
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  We spilled drinks. We told lies, he told stories,
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  and then we went through one of the most insane games I've ever
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  been a part of. Definitely was a.
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  It definitely was an experience. I've never been a part of a game
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  that was delayed like that. I've had my pull them off the
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  field for 1/2 hour, get back out there and do it again.
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  I've I've been a part of those. I have not been a part of over
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  what, 5 1/2 hour delay due to weather.
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  Yeah, don't forget that sideways rain and the hail and the tents
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  getting flipped upside down and twisted like pretzels as well.
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  How many like a day of 10 graveyard scoreboard got hit
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  with the lightning salt salt back salt Lightning hit back
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  down near near the airport. I mean it was some what are you
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  talking about lightning hit there in Lot 2?
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  Yeah, we were on South side, the South end zone side, and
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  literally the lightning struck directly in South dude.
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  By the way, for those who are in South end zone, we might have
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  been in the absolute South end zone.
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  Top floor was probably the absolute worst spot to wait out
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  that storm in Callie was smart. Callie went down one floor.
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  We went down there about 45 minutes too late with the rough
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  stuff that already went through. I was trying to get gone.
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  As soon as I seen that rain start coming sideways, I was
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  like we too high, we are too. High we too high up, way too
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  high up and and again like Brian said, five and a half hour
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  delay, we waited it out. I mean, I'll say this, I've
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  never had when we came back. I've never said that good at any
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  sporting event in my life, in my life.
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  And if y'all wondered how close I I should have sent the picture
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  and let Brian put it up, we could see Chris Mars nose hairs.
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  Yeah, that's how close we were. Could have leaned over and
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  touched the field. Could have shout out give give
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  our two guys a shout out on that who we ran into him at the
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  Beamer Barn and they said they they told us hey we get this
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  thing going, y'all come back with us.
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  It was awesome thing. It was awesome.
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  It was awesome. Time we got to sit with some of
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  the parents. Of the of the players, you know,
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  being right there behind the defensive huddle.
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  For the most part, every time they came off the field they sit
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  right in front of us. I was ear hustling the whole
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  time, listening at what they needed to work on.
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  Another experience is like the bike was right in front of us as
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  well. Like every player that went and
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  sit on the bike was I could reach out and touch them for
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  real, you know what I'm saying? So.
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  But I seen Lane come get on the bike.
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  I'm like, no, we don't need you on the bike.
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  Get off. The bike.
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  But I mean, I knew he was. I seen him and that stuff you
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  don't see on TV because he didn't go down on the field.
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  He kind of, you know, was running around and just kept
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  coming to the sideline, came straight over to the train
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  again, was on the bike. So seeing that stuff, definitely
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  not good to see somebody get hurt.
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  But being in the stadium just brings a whole different.
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  Dimension to your fandom. So all y'all out there.
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  If you don't go to any games, get to a game.
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  I live 7 hours away and I drive to a game at least Blacksburg.
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  I drive there at least once a year to go to a game.
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  If I can do it, you can do it. Unless you're Grayson Wimbush
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  and you live in California, you might need to fly.
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  Brian, what did you think? Man, I know you probably had
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  some experiences on fields and stuff back in your when you were
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  getting recruited, but that close ever sitting?
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  Not that close. Ever sitting for a game.
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  No. I've sat, I've got, I got when I
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  was getting recruited, I did get to see some basketball games,
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  like doing like junior days and shit like that, real close.
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  You know, sometimes you're a sideline first few rows
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  depending on what they had slated for recruits, but never,
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  never had a chance to get to a football game that close.
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  So that was a good experience. You know, like Kelly said, I
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  mean, you can kind of take in and kind of drink in the
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  sideline atmosphere a lot more from that level.
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  You don't quite get the the eye and the sky view that you would
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  get from a different level where you kind of see everything
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  that's happening on the field. But I think you're kind of more
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  kind of in the shit, as it were from that level.
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  And I think that's a good perspective to have as well.
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  It absolutely is. You you, you learn, you learn so
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  much. You see more going on.
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  Like Tally said, you were focused on what they were
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  talking to them to improve, especially on the defensive side
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  of the ball. Offense was in another location.
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  It was we. We could not effectively get
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  down there but again it was it was an experience and and that's
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  what games are and even coming back and I would, I want to say
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  it was probably 20,000 cuz W stands were just about full.
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  Northland Zone was completely full and it was still loud.
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  It was. Still it was still loud.
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  You were loud. Yeah.
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  I mean, and that's another thing sitting that low, you feel it
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  like you feel the noise just coming over top of you.
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  And I got a little, I got, I got hair standing up because I
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  remember the first time that that's happened, you know, early
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  in the first quarter and it was just like Jesus Lord, like it's
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  like it's a third of the stadium here and it's still just
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  absolutely common. Yeah, but especially like we
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  didn't get a proper. Proper entry.
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  Not get a time. Purdue fans were mad about that,
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  too. They were very upset about that.
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  They were like, we didn't even get that like.
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  We got, we got 1/2 assed Sandman.
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  I was like, yeah, you did. You really did.
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  Y'all really did. So we need to reschedule it
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  because y'all got y'all got y'all got a y'all got a D effort
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  from us. Right, right now it's one in
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  one. The road team took both of them.
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  Let's get one to to kind of put a put a put a bow on it.
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  Let's go meet in Asheville. Come on in Nashville, A good
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  game for Nashville. All right, well, let's we're
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  going to definitely talk about the game here. 2417 loss, the
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  Hokies take. But real quick, just a couple
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  things. First of all, Yep, we all got
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  them. We got the Rally for Robbie
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  stuff right here. Obviously in a weight game this
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  week that will not be in any lot, but it is still always for
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  sale or for donation at the Main Street pharmacy.
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  Walk right in there and get you one.
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  But let's start with some of the bad news.
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  And probably the worst news was the injury to Ollie Jennings.
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  He is definitely out this week. As we were walking in Lot 4 back
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  in the Lane Stadium, we saw him on the golf cart with the boot,
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  you know, and it sucks. It sucks for that kid in so many
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  different ways. He was a great kid.
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  I mean, he was a. You looked like he was hitting
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  his stride, man. He just he full of energy, you
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  know, and then to go down the way he did, getting rolled up
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  on. I mean, it's nothing that nobody
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  can prevent. You know what I'm saying?
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  It's kind of like the weather, that's what that's what the law
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  say happening. That's what's happening.
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  You know, he was doing everything right.
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  It's not like he was hanging. You know, sometimes people get
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  rolled up on on piles just standing there, he was downfield
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  blocking 20 yards down the field.
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  He's. Trying to get his man a block
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  and. Trying to get his man a block
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  he's rolled up on and. Ankle injury.
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  So we just you know sitting prayers out for him that his
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  health is, is is good and as well as his mental health
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  because you know it takes, it takes the athlete down man, when
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  they get when they get injured and that they've been so hyped
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  and waiting for this. And you know he had his great
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  first Game 2 touchdowns and then you go into the second game
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  you're amp and it's like the 2nd and you're and you go out.
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  So yeah, it definitely sucks, yeah.
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  It kind of, it definitely sucks because I mean you saw the
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  potential that he had in this offense in the first week and
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  you know, you feel like that was only going to grow as the season
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  went on. You get more more comfortable in
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  the offense, more comfortable with guys around you.
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  So him being kind of the our, our biggest threat offensively
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  definitely hurts. But also, you know, you feel for
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  the kid because. You know, he's not only trying
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  to go out with the bang here, but also trying to, you know,
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  take some steps for the next level as well.
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  So, you know, hopefully he can get back on the field as quick
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  as he can and still put out something like that so he can,
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  you know, turn that piece of it around as well.
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  Yeah. And and I go back to what we saw
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  after the ODU game and having all the family up there.
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  It meant a lot to him to come to Tech.
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  You can tell it genuinely meant a lot and meant a lot for his
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  family because it's a it's a three hour drive, it's a three
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  hour drive. It's where so many people that
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  they probably grew up with has gone to and it really stinks.
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  So you know, like you said to Ali, prayers for a speedy
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  recovery, for the middle, for the middle part of it.
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  Although, you know, we hollered at him, you know, we hope you do
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  feel better, man. He was, you know, he hollered
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  back at that. He was in good spirits and
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  that's always a good thing. But that ain't the only injury.
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  Steven Lane, we already mentioned that a little bit.
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  See him on the bike? Burgos got banged up, right?
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  Got banged up. People's is banged up.
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  Y'all know when we're talking about making our predictions,
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  you know what talk about where's the floor is it?
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  Who'd you say? Who'd I miss?
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  Wells is banged up too. Wells is banged up.
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  We got a lot of people banged up and we talk about the floors.
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  You start taking people out. I mean, let's hope that some of
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  it's just early week and they're just being cautious with them,
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  but man, it's that was a rough game.
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  Yeah, I mean, bodies kept kept dropping, man, as we went along.
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  And it wasn't just like, you know, a guy here, a guy there.
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  I mean it was, it's guys that took some big steps this year
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  that we were, you know, counting on to make plays, right.
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  So I mean, Berg, Burgos, been out there making plays,
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  obviously Lane making, making some big plays out there.
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  Obviously Jennings going down early that that that hurt the
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  momentum that definitely if we if we to continue playing, I
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  think with that kind of looming over us in real time I think it
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  could have gotten ugly because I feel like.
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  Because Jenkins got hurt like that first defensive play of the
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  game as well. First offensive play.
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  Yeah, he did come back. He came back.
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  And then and then Jennings was out too.
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  You know, second play on offense.
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  I mean, I feel like right away we had a bunch of gut check.
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  Injuries that you know if not for the the the weather pause I
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  think could have really snowballed on us a little bit
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  more than it did so but you know guys still questionable this
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  week. I I'm hoping we see Lane I hope
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  we see Burgos in particular. I feel like those two are
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  probably the the the biggest factor this week overall, but.
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  I mean, it was a tough week. I mean, and and this is kind of
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  a byproduct of playing on a on a wet surface, I know the field
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  drained really well, but you know you're still playing on the
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  wet surface. Anytime you got that that going
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  on, you know freaky shit can happen.
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  Yeah, definitely. When Burgos came back in because
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  he went out and I seen him come back in and I think I know I
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  seen him probably walk up to him and ask him, can you go?
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  And he shook his head. Yeah, but he had a big brace on
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  his on his elbow. But I seen him.
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  Probably hyperextended or something I would.
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  Imagine, I don't know exactly what he did, but like you said,
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  maybe hyperextended, but he did go back in man.
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  And you don't want to think about moral victories like you
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  want to win. But we were down 17 to 0 and
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  these kids, they fought, man. Like I I was telling I was
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  sitting closer to Curtis than you, Brian.
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  And I was looking at Curtis like we going to get blue out.
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  It's over. You know, it's 17 to 0.
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  We can't do nothing. And they just kept fighting,
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  man. And we found a way back in the
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  game and the defense stepped up and they were like, you know,
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  they wasn't just going to roll over.
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  That rain delay helped Chris Marv make some adjustments.
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  Yes, it did. And look, let's let's go ahead
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  and jump into it. I had something else I want to
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  talk about. Well, let's jump into it.
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  This is Tell the Truth. Tell the Truth Tuesday,
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  Wednesday NIGHT Edition. Because on Wednesday, Tally's
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  son had a late game. And by all means, we're dads.
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  Things like that happen. Me and Brian completely
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  understand what we'll pivot and go in a night longer anyway.
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  It ain't gonna hurt nobody's feelings.
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  But let's talk about ones with well.
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  And a lot of people are about to slowly scream at us and say no,
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  it didn't. But offensively, offensively,
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  I'm starting with the offense. I'm waiting for the bat.
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  All the comments to pop up over there, y'all tell me this
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  because I said with these two gentlemen who basically who
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  played collegiate football no less than 7 to 9 times did I
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  hear y'all scream the player is open.
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  There were other people around us screaming players are open.
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  The overall passing play design of what we did on Saturday and
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  then the skill players getting open that was working cuz Tally
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  kept screaming. Quit running the ball, just
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  throw it. Just throw it there if they
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  they're stacking the box and daring you to beat them with
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  your arm. You got to take what they're
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  giving you. If they're giving you 10 yards
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  across the middle, if they're giving you a wheel right, a
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  wheel route out of the back field, you got to take it like,
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  I get it. You want to say, Oh well, we got
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  to run and set up the to set up the the pass.
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  No, you don't. If they're going to give it to
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  you, they're already in their position.
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  Do it the other way. Do it the other way.
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  Pass set up the run. We need to make them adjust to
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  us, You know, we don't need to. Have us adjusted to them.
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  I mean we've all we going to run let's run what we're running.
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  All right. We see what you got.
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  Okay let we going to get you out of that.
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  So yeah it was people running open man.
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  I've seen a couple times where you know receivers had steps on
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  the DB's covering them and that's one of the things we
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  talked about before before the game.
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  Going into the game last week, like we didn't feel that their
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  secondary was so great that they could stop our receivers.
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  We were getting deep in that receiver room, man.
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  Like I seen Aiden Green with steps on people.
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  I seen Felton. He had no Lofton.
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  Both of our tight ends, Stephen Gosnell.
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  Like man, I've seen a lot of people running free.
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  But you know, I know we'll talk about it and we don't want to
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  beat on him too much. When you're When your
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  quarterback locks on one receiver and that's all he looks
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  at, he's never going to scan the field.
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  And that's why we're getting in trouble.
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  Exactly. And I mean overall passing play
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  design really good, especially when when you talk about the
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  defense there. I mean we talked about it last
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  week when we were previewing them, but a lot of single high
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  man coverage. So we got, we got a lot of
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  opportunities where we could beat a band one-on-one and we
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  did it pretty consistently. I mean, they Quan, right, went
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  out there and had himself a game.
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  I mean, and that that's stepping up after you lose.
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  Really. You lose your best wide receiver
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  for the whole game, pretty much. You lose your second best wide
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  receiver for at least a whole half.
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  And I don't know and we still we're getting open, but you got
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  to still make the plays and that starts with the quarterback.
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  And he went down in that. He went down in that last drive
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  as well. Yeah.
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  Because you know when he got knocked right in front of us?
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  Exactly. In front of, Yeah, right on,
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  right up. Against Ranch, yeah, ran up into
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  the bench. He thought it was knocked out.
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  I don't know what was going on with it.
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  All I saw was there were like 3 medical guys over there.
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  He was down there. He slid like 6 or 7 yards.
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  Yeah, to the sidelines or. Three under the bench.
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  So you know, I feel like it could have been a little bit of
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  a different drive if you got both of those tight ends just
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  work in the middle as well, so they couldn't guard.
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  If you go look at the game, you go look at the stats.
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  Nobody on that team could go. He was a matchup nightmare, a
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  sophomore fighting and doing work like that.
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  That was good. No one could guard our receivers
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  or the pass play schemes. We'll get into the other stuff
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  later because y'all know this is 4 sections I want to talk about
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  this. Let's talk about coverage, play,
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  coverage, play. I knew Purdue went for 248.
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  That was on 34 pass attempts. We were.
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  We talked about Birch being a danger.
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  He really was not that big of a danger in this game because the
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  back end pretty much locked up across the board.
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  Their leading receiver was 8 for 64 and the man we were worried
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  about, Dion Burks, one catch, 18 yards.
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  The the back end is the back end is for real whoever's back.
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  Playing with a Playing with a backup.
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  Jalen I was a wide receiver last year, man.
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  I don't. Again, I know they just put the
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  whole tape on YouTube, so if y'all haven't watched it, go
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  watch the whole tape. I'm talking about audience
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  members, y'all go watch this tape, man.
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  Jalen Jones in the back end. I seen a couple of times where
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  the kid had perfect coverage and that is hard to do.
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  Perfect coverage. No, no, no flag, nothing.
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  He played good in the back end man.
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  I was excited to see him take a step in that game because the
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  receivers that they have especially Burke's kid, the
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  Burke's kid can can and and they just made good plays like in in
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  games that we watched. So I was excited to see that
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  back end do some work back there.
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  They played, they played as good as we could see them play, I
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  think. Yeah, they only really hit one
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  shot down the field and that into get brought down, you know
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  right after the catch there. Other than that we kept
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  everything in front of us. I'd say in the secondary we
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  tackle pretty well, like they they didn't get a whole lot of
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  run after the catch in the secondary.
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  So I thought that was really good overall and I, as you said,
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  I like that, that we saw Jalen Jones step up.
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  Had a pretty good week against ODU, especially for somebody
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  getting really his first live snaps on defense at this level,
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  and really stepped up big this week because he had a he had
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  much more responsibility this week and really answered the
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  call. You know who else answered the
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  call? Brian, who's that?
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  Schroman, Schroman and and and Lawson.
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  Both of those guys had 14 tackles.
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  Unreal. Both of them had 14 tackles.
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  And not only did both of them have 14 tackles they was making
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  plays with. And again, I ain't saying that
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  we we back, but they was making plays with that old school
• 21:21
  attitude. I seen Jaden Strobman hit
• 21:24
  somebody on their sideline and look at their sideline and start
• 21:28
  slapping his helmet. I wanted to.
• 21:30
  I wanted to put a helmet on. I don't know how much work I
• 21:32
  could have done. I wanted to put a helmet on.
• 21:34
  But just seeing stuff like that man in Lawson was all over the
• 21:38
  field in the back field. Sideline to sideline.
• 21:42
  I mean, everybody knows he's an athletic freak, but watching him
• 21:46
  from ODU to to Purdue looks like that he took a step forward to
• 21:52
  me just with his coverage. His coverage was good and he if
• 21:58
  you get, if you get multiple double digit titles, man like
• 22:03
  that was. That's what we need to see.
• 22:06
  Yeah. I mean and he got the he got the
• 22:08
  all A/C all ACC accolades this week for for his place.
• 22:11
  So yeah so that that's that's big man.
• 22:16
  He really showed up. You know the tackles are great,
• 22:20
  you know, but that's just a number.
• 22:22
  But watching him improve significantly and run fits
• 22:26
  compared to last week, you know there was, there was some some
• 22:29
  issues last week significantly better on that front this week
• 22:32
  as you said, good in coverage this week.
• 22:35
  He had some more coverage responsibilities this week than
• 22:38
  he had last week. So it's good to see when you
• 22:40
  asked more of players and they give you more and we see that
• 22:45
  both with we we saw with Lawson, we saw with Stroman and we
• 22:48
  already talked about seeing it with Jalen Jones too.
• 22:50
  So that's that's some positives to take away from us.
• 22:54
  I can't remember who. I can't remember who.
• 22:56
  I mean. Curtis, did you have something
• 22:58
  to go with? Well, I was going to say I was
• 22:59
  thinking about, I can't remember who mentioned it, but and I want
• 23:02
  to see the play, the one where apparently Lawson's getting
• 23:06
  pushed by like the guard and he gets the handout and he makes a
• 23:10
  stop. Like.
• 23:12
  That's freak. That's freak stuff.
• 23:14
  That's freak stuff. There's there's only certain
• 23:16
  guys that are built like that that have the strength to hold
• 23:18
  the guard, to actually get ahold of the guy and get them down.
• 23:24
  That's freaking. That's some towel drills right
• 23:26
  there, man, to be able to grab somebody jersey and pull them
• 23:29
  down. Brian knows what I'm talking
• 23:31
  about. But those guys are special.
• 23:34
  Both of those guys are special, I think.
• 23:37
  So we're not going to have them much longer.
• 23:39
  We're not going to have them, we.
• 23:40
  Ain't going to have them after next year.
• 23:42
  Go ahead and write that down now.
• 23:44
  My hope is there are people out there that see how they're
• 23:47
  playing. And say I can go here, I can
• 23:50
  make my name, I can move to the next level.
• 23:53
  So we'll hope that happens. There's one more accolade we're
• 23:57
  going to give and what went well.
• 23:59
  And it's not the best thing and people are going to laugh,
• 24:01
  probably, but y'all, Peter Moore made that punt return to back up
• 24:06
  5 to 8 yards every single time he kicked it.
• 24:09
  That kid didn't know what to do. He moved it.
• 24:11
  He was booming, man. He was absolutely booming.
• 24:15
  And I mean, he put what, 4 inside the 20, a couple deep,
• 24:18
  deep. They were not getting that much
• 24:22
  on him and it was something we talked about in the preseason.
• 24:25
  Can he get back to where he was two years ago?
• 24:27
  He's well on his way back this year.
• 24:29
  And what does that do? Give Pete as much as I want to
• 24:32
  give the defense credit. After giving up to 17 until the
• 24:35
  nearly last drive, every time Peter Moore was called on, he
• 24:40
  put Purdue deep. He forced them to drive the
• 24:45
  field where eventually, each time they stalled up until the
• 24:48
  end and I think he only had one return where they got more than
• 24:52
  like 5 yards. Most of them got down inside the
• 24:56
  the the 10 or 15, I think one was inside the five.
• 25:00
  So, I mean, he did his job the whole night.
• 25:03
  Yeah, 23 total yards, returning on four on four.
• 25:08
  So what? Less than five, so.
• 25:13
  Yeah, and absolutely. Billy Ray, he is a stud.
• 25:17
  Absolutely. All right boys.
• 25:19
  So we we've talked about the good, but when you lose a game,
• 25:23
  there's going to be more bad than good and it and that's the
• 25:27
  case here today. And Brian, I'm going, I'm going
• 25:29
  to let you lead it off because it was an issue last week and
• 25:32
  you were paying even more attention.
• 25:33
  Being as close as we were, we could not run the football guys
• 25:38
  again. I don't, I don't know if y'all
• 25:40
  watch the game. We couldn't run the football.
• 25:44
  That's pretty important part of the game, man.
• 25:47
  You know, we talked about the flow of the game and the past
• 25:51
  plays were called, well, we like that part of it.
• 25:54
  But at some point, you've got to be able to run the football
• 25:57
  effectively so a defense doesn't just load the box and tee off on
• 26:02
  your quarterback because that puts even more pressure on your
• 26:06
  pass pro. You've got to be able to run the
• 26:08
  football with some degree of efficiency, and we're not able
• 26:11
  to do that right now. And a lot of it is execution.
• 26:15
  3rd and 1:00 you got to be able to get one yard man like we
• 26:19
  couldn't. We can't do nothing that that.
• 26:22
  Like you said, sometimes the play call isn't the problem and
• 26:27
  I don't want to go through and critique all of the the
• 26:30
  offensive line right now, but. If you are pulling as a tackle
• 26:35
  and you do not pull into the hole and and blow the man out of
• 26:38
  the hole and he's the one that makes the tackle and everybody
• 26:41
  else is blocked, you're at the problem.
• 26:44
  Yeah. You don't need to be giving
• 26:45
  Kayden more the business when your guys.
• 26:49
  You don't need 3 feet to your left are blowing up to man.
• 26:54
  Like wrap into the hole and root that motherfucker out of there.
• 26:58
  That's all I'm saying. Do not go stand behind your
• 27:01
  guard. And play the Heimlich maneuver,
• 27:05
  that's what. And we were braying bright
• 27:07
  orange jerseys. Come on, man.
• 27:10
  And they were. You can't.
• 27:13
  What the? Hey man.
• 27:15
  That, that, I think, I think, I think, I think we're here right
• 27:17
  there tallying more than one time as a tight end was asked to
• 27:20
  make a pool play like that into a hole.
• 27:22
  Brian, we know you were as a guard as well and it's like you
• 27:25
  got to hit the hole. If you see your team's jersey
• 27:28
  color, you didn't screw it up. Right.
• 27:32
  And that's a mentality, man. I mean it's not been times where
• 27:36
  you you pull on something and you, you don't know what you're
• 27:40
  going to see when you get in that sometimes.
• 27:42
  But guess what, sometimes the defender don't know what they're
• 27:44
  going to see either. So as a as a offensive lineman,
• 27:48
  when you're pulling like some offensive lineman, just that's
• 27:51
  that's their bread and butter because they got quick feet.
• 27:54
  They can get the they can get the shoulders turned or they can
• 27:57
  get the hips moving. And they can, they can get in
• 27:59
  the hole and and and they're low enough where when you see them
• 28:03
  it's too late, you know. So some office alignment make
• 28:06
  their money on pulling plays. They also don't let their eyes
• 28:10
  twist up their feet. Yeah, yeah.
• 28:12
  A lot of times, like if a lot of times when people are pulling,
• 28:17
  if if you're trusting your eyes too much, you can tie up your
• 28:20
  feet. If you're trusting your muscle
• 28:22
  memory but not using your eyes, you can end up in the wrong
• 28:24
  spot. This is just you got to be able
• 28:29
  to do both. You got to be able to trust your
• 28:31
  eyes and and see what's happening in real time.
• 28:34
  The play you're referencing though, I mean that was blocked
• 28:38
  as drawn up, there's there really wasn't a question of of
• 28:43
  where you should be. You should know what the fuck
• 28:45
  you're doing on that. I'm almost simplified.
• 28:47
  It's just a little bit for everybody who watching because,
• 28:50
  you know, it's been all kind of speculation all week and we've
• 28:54
  been talking about the game. I seen a clip of Wyatt Teller
• 28:59
  and they said Wyatt Teller drove his man 20 yards and everybody
• 29:03
  says, oh, that's cool. Oh, OK.
• 29:05
  This is what I want you to do to think about what Wyatt Teller
• 29:07
  did. People that's here watching.
• 29:10
  Go fill your trash can up. I don't know what my trash day
• 29:13
  is. On Tuesdays, fill your trash can
• 29:15
  up and instead of using the wheels to roll it down, roll it
• 29:20
  down. On the front part.
• 29:21
  That's that doesn't have the wheels.
• 29:24
  That's still not a defensive lineman.
• 29:26
  He took the defensive lineman that is in front of him and he
• 29:30
  pushed him down the field 20 to 25 yards and then put him on his
• 29:34
  ass. And put him down.
• 29:36
  You want to know why he did that one?
• 29:39
  Because he's strong, that he is very strong.
• 29:42
  But #2 is because he is a mean motherfucker.
• 29:45
  You got to be mean to play offensive line.
• 29:48
  You can be nice off the field. You can go to church and you can
• 29:51
  thank God on on Sundays or or or on Saturdays, whatever.
• 29:55
  If you seven day visit, I don't know what you are.
• 29:57
  You can pray when you're not on the field, but when you get on
• 30:00
  the field you got to be mean. You got to be able to say the
• 30:04
  person that is lined up in front of me or whoever I can put my
• 30:07
  hat on that doesn't have the jersey that I have on.
• 30:10
  I want to inflict pain. I just don't get that from some
• 30:13
  of my offensive lineman right now.
• 30:15
  The other part though, you mentioned that it's also he knew
• 30:17
  exactly where he was supposed to be on that run play.
• 30:20
  That's his 5th. I'm right here.
• 30:22
  I find my guy and I take him and and again we go back to it.
• 30:26
  That's been the real problem. Not only not mean, not a lot of
• 30:29
  push, but a lot of screw ups, a lot of missteps.
• 30:32
  So it definitely has to improve, but it was definitely bad on
• 30:36
  Saturday. Now I'm.
• 30:37
  I'm gonna stay on the offensive side of the ball.
• 30:41
  And and and it's not to be disrespectful because he had a
• 30:45
  great game against ODU. But what we saw Saturday
• 30:50
  afternoon and into the night that was Grant Wells of last
• 30:53
  year that showed up. That was not the Grant Wells we
• 30:55
  saw in the first game and it was the missing wide open players.
• 30:59
  It was when the pressure was there, it was he wasn't
• 31:02
  trusting. He was not trusting what was
• 31:05
  going to happen and. And and and to be honest it it
• 31:09
  was bad because I mean the like that pick that that pick was
• 31:15
  still everybody keeps saying well so and so ran the wrong
• 31:18
  route but the whole thing is that safety hooked up under in
• 31:24
  that inside zone when he would leverage wasn't there even if
• 31:27
  the route was ran properly. The jersey shouldn't have thrown
• 31:30
  it. He shouldn't.
• 31:31
  Have thrown it. The Jersey's white.
• 31:33
  There was no way he was going to get that to anybody.
• 31:36
  Yeah, and that's things he was doing last year.
• 31:39
  And The thing is, we took a step up in competition this week.
• 31:43
  And I'm not trying to bury him, but it's like what I was hoping
• 31:47
  to see for Grant Wells because he was named the starting
• 31:49
  quarterback, was when we took the step up, we wouldn't see the
• 31:54
  bad interception. There were two of them.
• 31:56
  There were two bad interceptions because the first one was just a
• 31:59
  bad throw. The second one, there were two
• 32:01
  guys. Open up the scene, watch that,
• 32:03
  watch those play again. There were two guys open.
• 32:05
  He threw it to the guy who was significantly covered.
• 32:08
  And and I'm sitting here and it's like, you know, we're going
• 32:12
  to talk about it in a little while here, but it's like you're
• 32:16
  reverting back, you're reverting back.
• 32:19
  This team is better skill wise, it's better pass protection
• 32:23
  wise. The run game still ain't there,
• 32:25
  but pass protection has went up significantly.
• 32:27
  Siegler, you and you and Brian were talking about that like
• 32:30
  like, we're looking better, like we can hold a pocket.
• 32:34
  So now we're getting to that point.
• 32:36
  It's like if you're reverting back to your old ways.
• 32:43
  I mean, Curtis, you were very heavy before the season started
• 32:47
  talking about we can't go one and one with the picks.
• 32:51
  Like that ratio can't be one and one.
• 32:54
  How many touchdowns and how many picks did he have Saturday?
• 32:57
  Two to two? Two to two?
• 32:58
  You just can't do it and that. One pick was literally.
• 33:02
  In the red zone corporate game, it's it's it's set up another
• 33:05
  touchdown. I think they, yeah.
• 33:07
  I can't remember if they got a touchdown or.
• 33:09
  Yeah, that was a touchdown because it was about the the
• 33:13
  first one was a touchdown because they got it.
• 33:15
  I think it, I think 18 by the time we made the tackle there.
• 33:18
  Yeah, they. Were inside the red zone and
• 33:20
  then they they they turned that around quick.
• 33:22
  Like, thankfully we held on and that that other one coming out
• 33:26
  of halftime didn't really bury us, but it definitely took an
• 33:28
  opportunity that we could have, took the momentum in the game we
• 33:33
  had and we lost that opportunity.
• 33:35
  We had the momentum coming out of half.
• 33:38
  We scored. 17 straight in 6 minutes and then we get the ball
• 33:42
  and we got the ball coming out of half.
• 33:45
  You blew all of your momentum in one full fell swoop and then it
• 33:48
  became a grindfest the entire third quarter.
• 33:51
  And then the one that he missed. The second one was a a a throw
• 33:56
  to to Felton that was high and behind.
• 34:00
  You know, he's 65, man. And you got to understand, he's
• 34:03
  running. You got to.
• 34:05
  Wells has been starting for four years.
• 34:08
  You know what I'm saying? Like, if he was a freshman, I
• 34:11
  would be like, you know what this is?
• 34:13
  This is the learning curve for him.
• 34:15
  Like, he knows first season starting even even if he wasn't
• 34:18
  a freshman. But you know, it's going to be
• 34:19
  some growing pains, right? We get it, but this is his
• 34:22
  fourth season start, man, and you got to know where to put the
• 34:25
  ball. You know, you got to know.
• 34:27
  What plays cannot be made. You got to know where you are in
• 34:30
  the game, and I hate to say that we're putting that on him, but
• 34:33
  you think about what Texas did, going down to Alabama and
• 34:36
  Tuscaloosa, that is a hard place to win.
• 34:40
  And Texas is quarterback the queen kid again.
• 34:44
  It's different skill level, of course, I understand that, but
• 34:48
  they were playing against a different skill level as well
• 34:50
  than we are. But he goes down there, man, and
• 34:52
  you just got to have some nuts about you.
• 34:54
  And when the game time comes, when it when it comes time to
• 34:57
  win the game like y'all See when we go to our picks.
• 35:01
  I picked Texas to win because last year he gave them all they
• 35:06
  can handle till he got hurt till he got hurt.
• 35:09
  When he got hurt it was over. This year he came back, he he
• 35:13
  was coming back for blood. And I feel like Wells just
• 35:15
  doesn't have that, that that little bit of last oomph about
• 35:19
  him. Like, hey, last year y'all
• 35:21
  counted me out. I did everything I needed to do
• 35:24
  to be the starter this year. I did everything to be the
• 35:26
  captain this year. I'm going to carry this team to
• 35:28
  win. I didn't see him getting in
• 35:30
  people's ass on the sidelines, and I didn't see him rallying
• 35:33
  his troops. It was just like he just came
• 35:35
  and kind of stood by himself. You know?
• 35:37
  I threw a pick. Fuck.
• 35:39
  That's it. That's what we get.
• 35:40
  So yeah, I don't want to stay on him because people think I hate
• 35:44
  Grant Wells and I really don't. I think he's a good kid.
• 35:47
  Yeah, I think he's. I think he's a good guy.
• 35:49
  I just think the limitations are what they are.
• 35:53
  And right now, the limitations of what we need, it's not going
• 35:58
  to go. I need more.
• 36:02
  I see more Gretchen and Starbucks in some locations,
• 36:05
  absolutely. Some people will throw an elbow
• 36:07
  at you. I'm going to call Gaskins Rd.
• 36:10
  baby. Gaskins Rd.
• 36:11
  You. Absolutely.
• 36:12
  I think the thing come line will get wrapped around the door in a
• 36:14
  heartbeat. 2 pieces here. I'm going to go to defense next,
• 36:17
  but I got two pieces I want to kind of put on the coaching
• 36:21
  first one. We came out slow again, both
• 36:25
  sides of the ball. That shit's got to stop, that
• 36:28
  shit's got to stop. And I don't know what the
• 36:31
  coaches have to do. I don't know what they have to
• 36:34
  do to get the players jazzed up. I mean, I'll say this, coming
• 36:40
  back out of that break, the players seemed more jazzed than
• 36:44
  they were at the beginning. It was a little different,
• 36:47
  especially on defense. Now game one, they were too
• 36:51
  jazzed up. Yeah, they were, they were, they
• 36:54
  were through the roof. So the coaching staff needs to
• 36:57
  find a happy medium to say even kill, even kill, even kill.
• 37:02
  Not too high, not too low. You got to find that even kill
• 37:07
  shout out to Marty Favreck, because that was something he
• 37:09
  always preached. Even kill.
• 37:13
  Yeah, you got to have a, you got to have a healthy, healthy
• 37:16
  balance of like chaos and even kill this, I guess you can say
• 37:21
  like. You got to know that when I step
• 37:23
  on the field and I'm prepared and I know what I'm doing, but
• 37:27
  it's a fucking football game going on, you know, sometimes we
• 37:31
  just look like a dead headlights out there at different
• 37:33
  positions, you know? But I agree, took too long to,
• 37:38
  you know, it. Or do you know they came out the
• 37:42
  first drive and walked down the field fire, You know, they came
• 37:47
  out whatever they wanted. Firing.
• 37:49
  They came out firing. Now the other piece I want to
• 37:53
  talk about and and and I think this is 1.
• 37:56
  No one will know the story. Maybe maybe one day we'll have
• 38:01
  the pleasure talking with somebody off record or bring
• 38:04
  them on here. The timing of when they put car
• 38:06
  and drone in in 2 1/2 minutes left in the fourth quarter.
• 38:10
  Now to me it went bad because the way he looked, the way he
• 38:16
  looked. If he would have came in, in the
• 38:19
  third quarter or even the early part of the fourth quarter, we
• 38:21
  might have got a couple scores because up to that point we've
• 38:25
  had five drives. You know how many yards we had
• 38:28
  in five drives? Probably 30. 63 Not as bad as
• 38:33
  you think it felt like 31 drive in less than two minutes.
• 38:38
  You put 49 on the board. One drive 49 yards.
• 38:42
  It's the same players there was. Actually, he did it without
• 38:47
  Dekwon Wright. Sorry, I just.
• 38:49
  Didn't like there and lane was out too.
• 38:52
  Right Lane was out too Lane. Was not in there, so he went 49
• 38:57
  yards real quick. But the and it's more of the bad
• 39:00
  because of could he have come in earlier because Tally, you
• 39:04
  noticed when Grant came off on the drive before you were like
• 39:09
  Grant's not feeling right. Because you saw.
• 39:11
  I didn't say it because you told me.
• 39:13
  Yeah, he was limping, man. I was telling people after the
• 39:16
  game, I was like, that kid is hurt, you know, and this.
• 39:19
  I'm all about having heart. But if you go back and you look
• 39:22
  at it like right before halftime, he went in early.
• 39:26
  He was hurting then. And I don't know if it just, you
• 39:29
  know, got worse or he had got it taped and the tape started
• 39:33
  coming loose or what. I don't know what was going on.
• 39:35
  But more and more in that second-half, man, he was hurt.
• 39:39
  And I think that's part of the reason why when he threw that
• 39:42
  pit coming out of halftime. He couldn't push, you know, he
• 39:45
  couldn't push off of his, his back, his back foot or his back.
• 39:49
  So again, not trying to make excuses for him, but when we're
• 39:53
  talking about the timing of the of caring drones going in, I
• 39:57
  mean essentially I'm not the coach, but essentially you got a
• 40:01
  00 game and you got the ball and if you got a kid that's hurt.
• 40:07
  You know, or even if you don't think he's that hurt.
• 40:08
  You alright? You're the captain.
• 40:10
  You ready to go? Yes, Sir.
• 40:11
  I can go. And you go in and throw a pick.
• 40:13
  No. You need to sit down for a
• 40:14
  minute. Let's figure out, let's figure
• 40:16
  out what's going on with you. Let's see what?
• 40:18
  We got your body. There is no it's it's going to
• 40:21
  be pressure, but that pressure is a lot different than going in
• 40:24
  down seven with two minutes to go so.
• 40:28
  When I knew it was something a little bit off was when he
• 40:31
  climbed the pocket that one time and there was 20 yards.
• 40:35
  Of green grass in front of them. And he reset like he was going
• 40:40
  to try to throw it and then like Half ass was was able to try to
• 40:45
  try to get a few yards there. And I was like, something's not
• 40:47
  right there, yeah. That sounded in the game, he
• 40:50
  found the defender. It's what he did the.
• 40:53
  Whole thing is you talk about 20 yards, we're at what, the 42,
• 40:57
  you're inside the 20 there. You're in fields of.
• 40:59
  Rush, we're taking the lead. We're taking the lead, and our
• 41:02
  100% believe we take the lead there.
• 41:04
  That game's over. We had scored the last 17.
• 41:07
  We had pretty much the momentum. Our defense was pretty jacked.
• 41:11
  We took to to Grant Wells to give him his props, like we were
• 41:17
  moving the ball. I think Cosnell caught a long
• 41:20
  pass and you know, got some yards out to catch there.
• 41:22
  On that drive we were driving the ball down the field and if
• 41:28
  you think about before that played O'Brien before he goes to
• 41:32
  play where he plays hide and seek in an open field and
• 41:35
  standing and goes, hey, it's me. Before that play they tried to
• 41:40
  run like a like a speed option and he just couldn't get to the
• 41:45
  end. He he had, he had some some
• 41:48
  lanes to get through. It essentially looked like the
• 41:50
  play where QP was ran against against North Carolina and he
• 41:56
  put his foot in the ground and took off.
• 41:58
  What else? Couldn't put a foot in the
• 41:59
  ground. He put his foot in the ground
• 42:01
  and failed, you know, like I was like he's hurt.
• 42:05
  There was a lane because it was a lane right next to Parker
• 42:07
  right there because that that defender went with this.
• 42:10
  I think it was a steel if he. I mean, is it going to be 3540
• 42:14
  yards with Grant? Probably not.
• 42:15
  Is it going to be a probably 1015 yard game?
• 42:18
  Yeah, because he had a lane all. Right, let's flip over to
• 42:21
  defense because they are not getting away with this.
• 42:24
  We love them to death. We were, they were.
• 42:26
  They played their nuts off from the first quarter until the next
• 42:30
  to last drive. The first one, Y'all screamed
• 42:34
  about it more than me. Man, that was some terrible
• 42:37
  tackling. I don't know how many missed
• 42:39
  tackles we had that we still. Somehow I didn't realize this
• 42:44
  until I relooked up the stats today.
• 42:46
  We still held them under 4 yards to carry with all those crap
• 42:50
  tackles and they're running back ran hard man 45 with that ugly
• 42:55
  ass number ran hard like and he wasn't like super big you know
• 43:01
  he wasn't super skilled. It didn't look like no
• 43:03
  disrespect to him but it's not like he was juking people out of
• 43:06
  their shoes and then he just ran hard and we was missing tackles.
• 43:10
  Like you can't, you can't get somebody you know for a 2 yard
• 43:14
  game and let them get a 5 yard game or you can't get somebody
• 43:18
  in the backfield and then they turned into a 5 yard game.
• 43:21
  Like that's losing football. We got to learn how to play
• 43:24
  winning football. You got to make that tackle.
• 43:30
  Yeah, I mean he he showed some moves.
• 43:33
  I mean he, he had a little bit of that Sam Rogers running
• 43:37
  style, like a taller Sam Rogers they're calling crazy ladies.
• 43:41
  Yeah. Did you like?
• 43:43
  Yeah, like he when he played it, it was like real awkward.
• 43:47
  But I mean, it was effective, yeah.
• 43:52
  But I mean you got to wrap up and get him down to the ground
• 43:54
  like, I mean that's that's the that's the thing here.
• 43:56
  I mean if you if you wrap up and drive through him, what what
• 43:59
  he's doing don't matter. Keep to your technique and
• 44:04
  finish. That's very true.
• 44:08
  Now, the last piece and pressure was there all day on for these
• 44:13
  quarterback. We were getting through their
• 44:15
  offensive line. We only wound up with two sacks.
• 44:18
  That they've got to finish because it was more than a
• 44:20
  couple times they had card down for sacks or tackle for losses.
• 44:25
  It's now I'm going to say this compared to last year, it's
• 44:27
  improved, but these guys are beating.
• 44:32
  We're beating offensive lines, we're beating offensive line.
• 44:36
  The Purdue's line was a little bit beat up, but we're beating
• 44:40
  offensive lines to get those sacks.
• 44:41
  And Brian, you know what can be done.
• 44:47
  What do you feel like can be talked to about them, about
• 44:50
  that? Because it's like, you're right
• 44:52
  there. Take the gold.
• 44:55
  Yeah. I mean, I think some of it is
• 44:56
  like being a little bit more disciplined in the pass rush
• 44:58
  lane because I think sometimes we're getting there, but we're
• 45:02
  not getting there in a discipline way.
• 45:04
  So if we, if we mind the pass rush lanes, I think we won't
• 45:07
  have those open spots where guys can step up, step to the right,
• 45:12
  step to the left, kind of evade. Evade the rush and make the
• 45:16
  play. We're getting close enough, but
• 45:20
  we can have that equal pressure across the line.
• 45:24
  He won't be able to step up away from where the pressure's coming
• 45:27
  from. He won't be able to step to the
• 45:28
  side from where the pressure's coming from.
• 45:30
  So I think that that consistency could help.
• 45:35
  Tell anything you got on that? Yeah, pretty much what Brian
• 45:38
  said and agreed. You know, you want to constrict.
• 45:41
  You want to constrict the area that he has back there.
• 45:44
  You don't want our two outside guys to rush in and run by him
• 45:50
  and then our inside guys be too tight.
• 45:53
  So it leaves a lane you know, you want, you really want that
• 45:57
  whole line to know okay, I know what he's doing.
• 46:00
  So I have to keep this lane right here, you know, and I want
• 46:03
  to keep this arm free because he's going to have this gap.
• 46:06
  So it's just like you said, playing with each other and
• 46:08
  knowing your knowing your fits. I'm glad to see us getting to
• 46:13
  the quarterback because it looked like a lot of times last
• 46:15
  year we couldn't do that at all. So it comes down to us just
• 46:21
  working together, man. You know what I'm saying?
• 46:23
  Yeah, you want to get a sack, but we want the team to get a
• 46:25
  sack. So if you missed it, we know the
• 46:28
  next guys got it. So I think that's what we got to
• 46:31
  get better at. Absolutely.
• 46:34
  All right. So there's all that went bad.
• 46:36
  I don't know how long that segment went compared to the
• 46:38
  previous segment. It was longer, in my opinion
• 46:41
  because we kept talking, but now we're on the phone.
• 46:45
  Us. Keep talking.
• 46:46
  No fucking way. No way.
• 46:47
  First of all, Tally, I got to ask because Andretti noticed it
• 46:51
  here. He's feeling the hat.
• 46:52
  Did you purchase that this weekend?
• 46:55
  I did Alumni Hall, man. I went to Alumni Hall and I seen
• 46:59
  it and I was like, Yep, that's my hat for this weekend.
• 47:01
  I actually got another one as well.
• 47:03
  So I got a couple of different hats, but this was the one that
• 47:06
  I wore to the game and the first one that I bought when I got
• 47:09
  there Friday night. They got a lot of cool stuff
• 47:14
  there, man. I mean, I know they got them
• 47:15
  online too. I've seen them online, but I
• 47:17
  didn't know I was going to like it as much as I did until I seen
• 47:21
  it in person. So I was like, yeah, let me get
• 47:23
  that. Let me grab this again.
• 47:26
  I like that Heck, because it's almost like a throwback to,
• 47:28
  like, the 90s. I love that.
• 47:30
  Love that. All right.
• 47:31
  Oh yeah. So this is a real quick one.
• 47:34
  Did anything happen? We were not prepared for whole
• 47:40
  fucking day tornado. No more.
• 47:43
  I mean, I'm not saying anything because everything that happened
• 47:46
  then happened to the kids on the field the whole day.
• 47:52
  It was a lot. There's a lot going on.
• 47:54
  Well, you know. What I mean well.
• 47:56
  We're sitting around, we're trying to figure out because
• 47:59
  it's like Tally got a 7 hour drive back to Alabama and he's
• 48:03
  like man, if if I'm going to make it to Bristol tonight, I
• 48:07
  need to at least like leave by 10, maybe 9.
• 48:11
  We're sitting here like if we want to get back to Rich before
• 48:13
  2-3 in the morning, like this is what time we going to kick.
• 48:16
  So we're all around. All different sorts of places.
• 48:21
  It was the entire day and you could only think about what was
• 48:23
  going through the kids, so usually this one will be better.
• 48:26
  But for Saturday whole day, nobody was prepared for all that
• 48:31
  stuff that happened. No, it was a lot, man.
• 48:33
  It was a lot. And then it's just being your
• 48:36
  mindset is I'm getting there, you know, we've all been to to
• 48:40
  games. I'm getting there.
• 48:42
  I'm gonna tailgate it a little bit.
• 48:44
  I'm gonna go in the game. I'm gonna watch a game.
• 48:46
  I'm gonna holler at my boys, then I'm gonna head home.
• 48:50
  None of that happened that way. It was like, you got there, you
• 48:53
  got ready to play. It started raining.
• 48:56
  You didn't know what to do. You you get pushed out into the
• 49:01
  the, the under the, the bleachers and the police is
• 49:04
  coming through saying you got to leave, you got to get out.
• 49:06
  And we like, no, we're not going out in that.
• 49:08
  I ain't going in. That oh, my God, today was nuts.
• 49:14
  And then sitting around looking at Curtis and Brian, like, what
• 49:16
  do we do? Do we wait and see?
• 49:18
  Well, it's going to be updated at 3.
• 49:19
  It's going to be updated at 3:30.
• 49:20
  It's going to be updated at 4:00.
• 49:22
  There. Are they going to start at 7:00?
• 49:24
  It's like we just didn't know, man.
• 49:26
  But through all that, I can say like, it was an awesome day.
• 49:30
  Through all of that, we lost. Like, it was awesome to be in
• 49:33
  Blacksburg. It was awesome to get the seats
• 49:35
  we had. But yes, I'm going to stop it
• 49:39
  right there that that the entire day was we didn't know none of
• 49:43
  that was going to happen. None of it.
• 49:44
  And it wasn't just the well, I plan to do this and that and
• 49:48
  that and I'm not going to get to all of that like that's that's
• 49:52
  every time you go you always over plan always when you when
• 49:55
  you go to a game like, all right, I'm going to make this
• 49:58
  tailgate, this tailgate, I'm going to go by this bar for like
• 50:01
  10 minutes, 20 minutes, thirty minutes, whatever it is.
• 50:03
  Then I'm going to go into the stadium at like 11/11/30.
• 50:06
  Like you make all those plans, all those grand plans, but you
• 50:09
  might get to do half of that because like everything takes a
• 50:12
  little bit longer than you think it is, right?
• 50:14
  It wasn't just that, it was everything else on top of.
• 50:19
  That all right, Y'all, we got to talk about this real quick and
• 50:24
  I'm gonna. I'm gonna start it.
• 50:25
  I got the I got to run down a little different.
• 50:27
  But what we can do better moving forward.
• 50:30
  I'm gonna start at the bottom here because Coach Prime
• 50:34
  mentioned it in his. Presser about There has been hot
• 50:38
  conversation about offensive line rotation and Brian, you
• 50:43
  wrote this on here and like what?
• 50:45
  What do you feel like we need to see right now?
• 50:49
  Honestly, and I mean, as much as I feel like he had a little bit
• 50:53
  of a redemption tour this offseason, we we got to do
• 50:56
  something at at right tackle because as.
• 51:02
  Decent of strides as he's made to at least get back from a PFF
• 51:06
  standpoint in the ballpark of where he was at two years ago.
• 51:09
  With pass pro we, I mean it's still regression in the run
• 51:13
  blocking and it's not just the physicality piece of it.
• 51:19
  We're talking mental mistakes. We're talking execution errors.
• 51:22
  This is something that a three-year starter should not
• 51:26
  be. It should not be happening to
• 51:28
  them. So Mike Siegel, to say it, it's
• 51:33
  like, it's just not physicality. It's running behind your own
• 51:38
  guard, like, and standing there. Just stuff like that, man.
• 51:42
  Like we got to see. I don't know, man.
• 51:45
  You got to put some urgency on these boys for real.
• 51:48
  Let's do I'd like to see Jack at center and maybe move the move
• 51:51
  Kaden back to guard too. So I mean, I think we can play
• 51:54
  around with some stuff to maybe find something else that works
• 51:59
  to create a little more balance. Because if we can't start
• 52:03
  running the ball effectively, whether it's by a quarterback
• 52:06
  change, where it's an old line shuffle, whatever we need to do,
• 52:10
  we've got to spark some sort of rushing efficiency.
• 52:14
  We don't have to be great, we don't have to go out there and
• 52:16
  be over 150 every game, but we need to be at least approaching
• 52:20
  that every game. Yep, I agree with that tenfold,
• 52:25
  and I think what you just said about.
• 52:27
  Is it the Hollyfield move in the center, Let Kaden go back to
• 52:30
  more of a natural guard spot? People are getting, you know,
• 52:33
  they're throwing them about. Those snaps, those snaps he's
• 52:36
  had had some low ones. He has had some struggles.
• 52:39
  He's had some good moments. But The thing is, if that's Jack
• 52:42
  Hollyfield's natural position, you put Kaden back at his
• 52:45
  natural position at right, and then I'm.
• 52:49
  I'm gonna say it. Y'all tell me I'm crazy.
• 52:53
  Oh my God, Pat. Get.
• 52:56
  Out of here, Pat. Get out of here, Pat.
• 53:00
  I mean, you know we Greg Boone 2.0, the Wild Turkey.
• 53:05
  Wild Turkey Two point Wild Turkey 2.0 If it'll give us some
• 53:08
  Russian yards right now, maybe we need to try it.
• 53:10
  We can try it, but what I think, what I think also if you kick
• 53:14
  Kay more back out to right guard, do you try Brody Meadows?
• 53:18
  Because I think the times we've seen Brody on the field, Brody
• 53:22
  does have a little nasty streak to him.
• 53:25
  Put the tackle, right tackle. Yeah.
• 53:30
  Again, The thing is, so we got, all you're saying is we got to
• 53:33
  try to try something. We got to try.
• 53:35
  You got to try something because what we doing is it ain't
• 53:38
  working. All right, I'm.
• 53:40
  I'm going to let y'all boys do this next one real, real easy.
• 53:44
  What must we do better when other teams run the ball at us?
• 53:48
  Tackle them. Wrap them up, wrap them up.
• 53:52
  Wrap them up. We ain't going to say no more on
• 53:54
  that because you because I think what we saw from Week 1 to week
• 53:59
  two in the run fits like they got that, they got that
• 54:02
  adjusted. Probably a big piece was Tisdale
• 54:04
  being at Mike a lot the older guy in the room.
• 54:08
  Coach mentioned that. But that got better.
• 54:11
  We got to get the tackling better.
• 54:13
  I got a feeling they're going to be doing they're going to be
• 54:15
  chasing the giant donut around the drill fields and then the
• 54:18
  Beamer Barn this week tackle get them down all right.
• 54:23
  But the big one is and we've mentioned it, we've got to get
• 54:27
  better rushing to ball. We talked about the offensive
• 54:29
  line, Brian, you've mentioned a couple times you mentioned it
• 54:32
  last week and I think on a couple plays we saw it where if
• 54:35
  we did have the wider receiving alignments it would open up the
• 54:38
  rushing lanes. But I'm I'm, I'm just going to
• 54:41
  y'all just y'all say it because we we've eventually we've we've
• 54:45
  led up to this point and whichever one y'all want to lead
• 54:49
  and. I'm on.
• 54:50
  I'm agreeing with y'all we. We talked about it already.
• 54:54
  Yeah, it just. Seems to be your your bag man.
• 54:57
  I mean yeah when you think about the just we got to create
• 55:03
  something you know what I'm saying and and teams are
• 55:05
  starting to load the box and they're starting to get in there
• 55:07
  tight. So why not spread it out if you
• 55:10
  can spread it out. And again, when you talk about,
• 55:14
  I'll say it when you talk about when drones got in the game and
• 55:18
  then that lane did open up, he took it and ran for about 15
• 55:22
  yards. You got to understand, he ran
• 55:25
  for just about more yards than we had the whole game on that
• 55:28
  one run. And I'm not saying that he's God
• 55:30
  or he needs to be the starter and this and that.
• 55:32
  I don't. I'm telling you, we got to do
• 55:35
  some things different. We're going to have to get them
• 55:37
  out-of-the-box. Spreading them out a little bit
• 55:39
  will help us do that. Now spreading them out a little
• 55:42
  bit, being hitting some receivers is going to help as
• 55:44
  well. But I think it does open up some
• 55:47
  run lanes as well. Give me drones for Q B1 this
• 55:50
  week. That's what I want.
• 55:52
  That's what I want to and I think the big thing to me,
• 55:56
  Tally, you kind of alluded to it, but I mean, I'll, I'll kind
• 55:59
  of under score it here. Decisiveness, like whether
• 56:04
  whether he hit or missed, he did it with confidence and
• 56:09
  decisiveness. If we can get that to work more
• 56:14
  consistently then we might be on to something.
• 56:16
  Yeah, definitely. I agreed.
• 56:20
  I agree, Donald. I mean, I agree, just to give
• 56:24
  myself a chance, especially this week.
• 56:26
  Especially this week I think if Grant is hot at.
• 56:28
  Least see what you got. Especially with, you know,
• 56:30
  Grant's at least banged up, so he's not going to be whatever
• 56:35
  the best version of Grant Wells is.
• 56:37
  Whatever we would get against Rutgers, we're not getting that
• 56:40
  this weekend. We're not.
• 56:40
  Getting this week. We're not getting this week so
• 56:42
  but the whole. Drones in there.
• 56:44
  See if you can scheme up some different things to get this.
• 56:47
  Offensive run game going and give them your best fucking
• 56:51
  shot. But I'll say it and I'll say it
• 56:53
  again. I've said it to y'all and this
• 56:56
  has been my big thing. The quarterback has to run the
• 57:00
  ball. The quarterback has to pull on
• 57:01
  those RPO's. That quarterback starts pulling.
• 57:04
  That linebacker that was in the gap that Parker missed, You know
• 57:07
  what? He might be taking sidesteps.
• 57:10
  And the next thing you know but she was actually got a lane to
• 57:12
  still go to and somebody brought up a good point.
• 57:16
  Somebody brought up a good point.
• 57:17
  I think it was Billy Ray actually who wanted to space
• 57:20
  this when he says I don't know if they are giving them an
• 57:24
  option to pull the ball. I don't know if they're just
• 57:27
  telling them to line up and hand it off.
• 57:30
  We don't know. I hope you.
• 57:32
  I hope that ain't what we're doing.
• 57:35
  If somebody knows Tyler boy and call him tonight, what is it?
• 57:38
  It's about 10:30 there. He should be good and he should
• 57:41
  be good and showered and eating and fingers are orange from
• 57:45
  eating Cheetos. Somebody text him and tell him
• 57:49
  you can't run an RPO unless you give an option.
• 57:52
  Run past option. We need.
• 57:54
  We need some options in there. Stop telling them just to hand
• 57:57
  the ball off if that's what you do, but that's a good question
• 58:01
  if they doing that. I mean, I'm sure that I'm sure
• 58:05
  some of those are design runs and he's carrying out a fate,
• 58:09
  but that's got it that that's as a design to set up.
• 58:14
  What you do later call later in a different series, whatever it
• 58:18
  may be, right? So at some point some some of
• 58:23
  these reads are not getting read properly or if it's one of those
• 58:28
  where it's getting slow played, eventually you got to just see
• 58:32
  what you do by swinging it out there, see what you do by
• 58:34
  keeping it. You can't just keep handing the
• 58:36
  ball off into the into the gap, especially when we're not
• 58:39
  blocking it very well up front, yeah.
• 58:43
  No, we'll we'll see. So again, we all think it's got
• 58:46
  to happen. We think we flipped a count on
• 58:48
  drones this week. We shall see Saturday at 3:30.
• 58:52
  Big 10 network I think is what it's on.
• 58:56
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• 58:58
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  know the enemy. Let's talk about Rutgers a
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  little bit. Let's start on the offensive
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  side of the ball, Mr. Siegler. Let's get a little skiing.
• 1:00:40
  What they're going to be running.
• 1:00:42
  We should be familiar with this. Boy, it's a little Smash Mouth
• 1:00:44
  spread. RPO.
• 1:00:49
  Hey, run. We want to run.
• 1:00:52
  I'll give you a fun fact, too. Kirk Sharaka, the offensive
• 1:00:58
  coordinator at Rutgers, was the offensive coordinator at Penn
• 1:01:02
  State University when Tyler Bowen was the COOC in 2020.
• 1:01:07
  So we got a little former COOC battle here, so that's going to
• 1:01:14
  be interesting. Very interesting, probably know
• 1:01:17
  each other like. Like the back of their hand.
• 1:01:20
  So I mean they at least got to know each other for one year.
• 1:01:23
  So they they kind of know probably tendencies to a point.
• 1:01:26
  But I mean Sharaka's offense, I mean it's a balanced attack.
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  They're pretty much near even in passing and rushing yardage
• 1:01:34
  through two games so far. They utilize a athletic dual
• 1:01:38
  threat quarterback to enhance their run game.
• 1:01:41
  The the it's going to be design runs, it's going to be RPO's and
• 1:01:45
  it's going to be you know, keepers out of the backfield,
• 1:01:49
  you know when a play breaks down.
• 1:01:50
  So you'll you'll see all three versions of of the quarterback
• 1:01:53
  getting in the action there. As far as the passing game, it's
• 1:01:57
  a lot of a lot of bubble and slip screens, so you're going to
• 1:02:00
  see that a lot in the passing game.
• 1:02:02
  They will go vertical, but they're going to use that
• 1:02:04
  lateral stuff to kind of set all that up.
• 1:02:07
  And their RPO is also very slant heavy so that they will use the
• 1:02:12
  RPO anywhere on the field. It's not just a red zone or
• 1:02:16
  scoring area type of play for them.
• 1:02:18
  It's something that they'll use anywhere on the field and it's
• 1:02:21
  very, very much slant heavy. They they don't run a whole lot
• 1:02:24
  of other variations of the RPO in that offense, so.
• 1:02:29
  Tyler, don't let them come out and run out of shit better than
• 1:02:31
  us and beat us this weekend, all right?
• 1:02:34
  Come on, man, let's get some nuts together today or this
• 1:02:39
  weekend. Going into the talking about the
• 1:02:42
  enemy a little bit. I'll go first.
• 1:02:45
  Just introducing their running back.
• 1:02:46
  Looks like he is a Junior #5 Kyle, Monica.
• 1:02:52
  I guess that's his last name, I think.
• 1:02:54
  It's the name Guy. I'm not Managa Manunga.
• 1:02:57
  Something crazy, but anyway. That's what tally I butchered
• 1:03:00
  more names on this program than anybody.
• 1:03:03
  You know, China. Want me to last?
• 1:03:05
  Yeah, he Curtis and butchering names is like this man.
• 1:03:08
  You good? I watched him, man.
• 1:03:10
  They use them a little bit out of the backfield he is.
• 1:03:13
  About a 5 foot nine £200 or about a 2205210 running back.
• 1:03:20
  Class of 2020. A Don Briscoe Prep product, he
• 1:03:26
  was a low three star. About a 82 offers from Rutgers,
• 1:03:33
  Air Force, Army and Buffalo. Looks like the only offers that
• 1:03:38
  he had coming out of high school he's got about. 200 yards this
• 1:03:44
  year, averaging about I think 214, something like that.
• 1:03:48
  He's averaging about 5 yards to carry and he is catching the
• 1:03:52
  ball out of the backfield as well, so might have a hands full
• 1:03:57
  with him. You know, just them using him in
• 1:04:00
  a couple of different ways. What you got on him?
• 1:04:02
  See. Yeah, man.
• 1:04:03
  I mean, he's a, he's a running back, runs with good balance.
• 1:04:05
  I mean he talked about his kind of credentials there.
• 1:04:08
  This is a classic Schiano development type project that's
• 1:04:11
  really turned into a pretty solid playmaker.
• 1:04:14
  He'll shake off tackles if you don't wrap kind of kind of like
• 1:04:17
  we saw with Mockaby. So expect a little bit more of
• 1:04:20
  that, got a wrap up, bring down good vision and patience at the
• 1:04:24
  point of attack which would you know you need that in the the
• 1:04:27
  Smash Mouth spread there especially with the RPO elements
• 1:04:30
  thrown in there and and he's used in the passing game like
• 1:04:33
  Tally you alluded to, mostly on kind of swings and wheels.
• 1:04:37
  There's not a ton else it's usually going to be something on
• 1:04:40
  the perimeter or they'll slip him out of the backfield a
• 1:04:42
  little bit. But they're not throwing screens
• 1:04:45
  to him. All the screens are pretty much
• 1:04:46
  exclusively to the wideouts. And I will say his loan this
• 1:04:51
  year is about 25 yards, so he's not a super burner, but they are
• 1:04:58
  using him as their primary back to get those tough yards.
• 1:05:03
  Well, they're they're using them what they're supposed to.
• 1:05:04
  Even for if you told us right now, five is looks great.
• 1:05:07
  You told us four right now we'd be the happiest fan.
• 1:05:10
  Base in the country. Let's give them to us because.
• 1:05:14
  Brian, you mentioned up at the beginning they are a pretty
• 1:05:17
  balanced team if you look across their stat lines and one guy who
• 1:05:21
  has reaping the benefits of that is Jaquay Jackson, 6 foot 290
• 1:05:27
  pound wide receiver out of Sierra Catholic in Pittsburgh,
• 1:05:30
  PA. He was a division to transfer
• 1:05:34
  from California. Pennsylvania University.
• 1:05:37
  Look that up. It is a real university.
• 1:05:39
  I'm making it. I'm making it up.
• 1:05:42
  And while he was there last year with that school, 1178 guards 13
• 1:05:50
  touchdowns on 77 receptions in a senior near there.
• 1:05:55
  He transferred up and so far this year.
• 1:06:01
  You know, first game didn't do much against Rutgers.
• 1:06:03
  Lit it up last week against Temple. 4 catches, 95 yards,
• 1:06:09
  including a long one of 65 yards.
• 1:06:13
  What are we seeing? What?
• 1:06:15
  What is? What is this one all about?
• 1:06:20
  Yeah, man. Like you said, he's a transfer
• 1:06:22
  in he he's got really good hands.
• 1:06:25
  I like the way he uses his hand. He catches the ball real well in
• 1:06:27
  traffic. He is a threat in the
• 1:06:32
  intermediate levels. He can go a little deep on you,
• 1:06:35
  threat with the screen, but I think the biggest attribute he
• 1:06:39
  has is that he catches the ball well in traffic and can go after
• 1:06:41
  some jump balls as well. Yeah, And you know, he's
• 1:06:46
  definitely not the only guy. He, he's sort of the smaller guy
• 1:06:50
  because we kind of look across it, you know, look at look at
• 1:06:56
  Isaiah Washington. I've got stuff away just for a
• 1:06:58
  second here. Isaiah Washington is another one
• 1:07:01
  of their leading receivers. He's 6 foot, 3200 plus pounds,
• 1:07:08
  big guy, 55 catches, you know, close to 60 yards.
• 1:07:14
  And the whole thing is a lot of these guys for Rutgers right
• 1:07:18
  now. They're seasoned.
• 1:07:20
  They're seasoned, obviously. Jackson tons of time down at D2.
• 1:07:27
  Cleans the time down at D2, So he's got the experience there
• 1:07:30
  and I know people can say, well, that's the lower level.
• 1:07:32
  You know what, That's one of the best things about the Portland
• 1:07:35
  transfers thing. It is you've got a guy who's at
• 1:07:37
  a lower level can come up and play.
• 1:07:39
  Washington's been down at Rutgers since 19.
• 1:07:43
  So the the one thing I'm not seeing and Brian really didn't
• 1:07:46
  mention much of it, is you're not seeing a lot from them.
• 1:07:51
  As far as passing game goes like like they're staying balanced.
• 1:07:57
  But they are skewing more towards the run game I've.
• 1:08:01
  Been seeing that as well. So, and The thing is, they've
• 1:08:05
  been playing defense. They've also in Cal.
• 1:08:07
  I don't know if this is possible.
• 1:08:09
  Did you know they played two offenses worse than the Hokies?
• 1:08:13
  I think it was possible. I really didn't think that was
• 1:08:15
  possible. So a lot of, a lot of people are
• 1:08:18
  concerned like this is a really good defense.
• 1:08:20
  And it's like they've been playing, they played Temple and
• 1:08:23
  they played Northwestern. Listen, Temple can be up and
• 1:08:26
  down. And what's going on at
• 1:08:28
  Northwestern, right? Now Oh yeah, you expected them
• 1:08:30
  to have a rough. Oh my God.
• 1:08:32
  Like. Yeah, people transferring out.
• 1:08:34
  The coach gets in trouble. You got people talking about a
• 1:08:37
  Dick car wash. I don't know what all of that
• 1:08:40
  stuff like you expected them to have a a rough year, so that's
• 1:08:45
  kind of crazy. I was looking at that stuff as
• 1:08:47
  well. When you talk about just their
• 1:08:50
  by receivers to the running backs getting to, I guess I'll
• 1:08:54
  go ahead and and get into the next.
• 1:08:56
  Player that we're talking about the quarterback.
• 1:08:58
  You know we talked about where I received him.
• 1:09:00
  We talked about running back. That quarterback Gavin Winsett
• 1:09:05
  looks like he is a four-star. He was a four-star quarterback
• 1:09:10
  out of Kentucky. Owensburg, Owensboro, KY.
• 1:09:15
  So I'm not sure what that is, but he was a a four-star 2021
• 1:09:21
  kid and he had. You know, he had tons of offers
• 1:09:25
  from different places. He was a projected like fourth
• 1:09:29
  to seven round guy. They were kind of comparing him
• 1:09:32
  to a Jason Stedham, excuse me, Jared Stedham, so Auburn
• 1:09:37
  cornerback. So I mean he's he's a ball
• 1:09:41
  player, he can run it, he can throw it.
• 1:09:45
  Looking at him, he's about 6, three, £200.
• 1:09:48
  So, good size, kid, but kind of what me and Curtis were talking
• 1:09:52
  about. They are really balanced as far
• 1:09:56
  as running and throwing. Their number one receiver has
• 1:09:59
  about 90 yards or 91 yards. Of course, we talked about the
• 1:10:04
  running back when said has about 360 yards, 2 touchdowns this
• 1:10:11
  year. So not a ton of touchdowns in
• 1:10:14
  the air, you know? Not a ton of yards.
• 1:10:16
  And and and for. Comparison purposes Grant Wells
• 1:10:21
  has 494 yards, 5 touchdowns, 2 interceptions, Wimps.
• 1:10:26
  It doesn't have any interceptions, but again, it
• 1:10:28
  doesn't look like he's thrown about 50 times.
• 1:10:31
  He's 27 for 50 this year. So Brian, you got anything on
• 1:10:35
  him? Yeah.
• 1:10:36
  I mean, you know, when you look at him, he's a really good
• 1:10:38
  athlete. He can make plays with his legs,
• 1:10:42
  makes really decisive reads when they have that RPO and that's
• 1:10:44
  really what kind of gets that offensive going is that he knows
• 1:10:47
  how to make the decisive reads, get the ball to where it needs
• 1:10:50
  to be, whether it's keep it, whether it's hand it, whether
• 1:10:52
  it's throw it. He's usually making the right
• 1:10:55
  choice there, not shocking in a Schiano coach team.
• 1:10:59
  I mean, they're going to be mostly pretty disciplined across
• 1:11:02
  the board and it's going to start with the quarterback
• 1:11:05
  position as well. He's accurate enough in the
• 1:11:08
  short to intermediate game for what they do.
• 1:11:10
  He will miss some open receivers from time to time.
• 1:11:13
  He's not always accurate, but throws a pretty good deep ball
• 1:11:18
  though. He can push it down the field
• 1:11:20
  when he needs to and you know some of the some of the design
• 1:11:24
  runs. Are are are, you know, drawn up
• 1:11:28
  for him, but most of his yards are going to be off the RPO in
• 1:11:31
  the scrambles. It's not going to be necessarily
• 1:11:33
  something that's designed specifically for him to to rush
• 1:11:35
  the ball. Well, and as soon as soon as he
• 1:11:39
  said it tally, I just, I kind of sunk because it's that he's a
• 1:11:42
  quarterback that makes decisive decisions in the RPO.
• 1:11:46
  And when you hear that, you know that's why they're having
• 1:11:49
  success. Even though the numbers aren't
• 1:11:51
  there, you probably know they're they're pushing the ball down
• 1:11:53
  field, they're playing defense, they're probably getting first
• 1:11:56
  down. They not do anything
• 1:11:58
  spectacular, but they're not losing games.
• 1:12:03
  And and complimentary football. Oh my goodness.
• 1:12:05
  Oh my goodness. Well, let let's flip over, Let's
• 1:12:08
  talk to the last piece, as we always do, and let's talk about
• 1:12:11
  the offensive line. Brian said he took a look and he
• 1:12:14
  felt like big #72. Holland Pierce is the kind of
• 1:12:19
  the the anchor of that line. 6 foot eight, 230 pounds, boys.
• 1:12:26
  Just he was 68320 coming out of high school just a couple years
• 1:12:30
  ago. Guess how many offers he had?
• 1:12:33
  33. Zero.
• 1:12:36
  He did the Blue Tarski 0.0 offers other than Rutgers.
• 1:12:41
  That was it. He went down to Fuma for a year,
• 1:12:44
  transferred back in and now Brian.
• 1:12:46
  What is he doing on that offensive line and what do they
• 1:12:49
  look like? He's the right tackle.
• 1:12:53
  He's probably overall the best player from a balanced
• 1:12:55
  perspective, pass versus run. He's not really.
• 1:12:58
  He doesn't really have a weakness.
• 1:13:01
  He's not necessarily elite. You wouldn't call him an elite
• 1:13:03
  right tackle, but he is very solid in in both aspects there.
• 1:13:08
  Overall for the line, I mean they're they're slightly better
• 1:13:11
  than Purdue, they're not a significantly big jump, but
• 1:13:16
  they're more disciplined and sound than Purdue was.
• 1:13:20
  They're not, you're not going to get a big mistake from them like
• 1:13:22
  you would against Purdue or or an ODU.
• 1:13:26
  Overall solid rushing attack and and they will allow some
• 1:13:32
  penetration on those run plays though so we do have a chance to
• 1:13:35
  pitch them for some negative plays and that's going to be
• 1:13:38
  important getting them behind the sticks and making wimps that
• 1:13:40
  have to throw from the pocket a little bit more and and not be
• 1:13:42
  able to kind of attack us with the RPO as much.
• 1:13:46
  And you know, we talked about pressures, they they've only
• 1:13:49
  sacked a lot of sack on wimps at once this year, but he's been
• 1:13:53
  pressured a ton. So if we can keep that up and
• 1:13:56
  keep the consistent pressure that we've seen so far, even
• 1:13:59
  though we didn't necessarily get home a lot against Purdue, if we
• 1:14:01
  can keep that pressure consistent, that's going to make
• 1:14:03
  it a little more difficult for him.
• 1:14:05
  There's there's there's one concern I have about that Brian
• 1:14:09
  and that is going to be we're going to have to stake in, we're
• 1:14:11
  going to have to stay in our lanes because obviously Tally,
• 1:14:15
  you mentioned a kid get that many offers and that athletic,
• 1:14:19
  he's going to break contained and he's going to go upfield.
• 1:14:23
  And he's athletic enough to get not, not Hudson Card got, you
• 1:14:27
  know, 5-6 yards a couple times. It's going to be 2530.
• 1:14:33
  Brian, let me ask both. Y'all this because Kelly, you
• 1:14:37
  read up on him, looked at a little tape.
• 1:14:38
  Brian, you obviously looked at a little more tape too, or we're
• 1:14:42
  going to have to spy him with somebody.
• 1:14:45
  Would you? I think you have to on obvious
• 1:14:48
  passing downs. I don't think you spy him every
• 1:14:50
  play, but you spy him on that obvious passing downs.
• 1:14:53
  Yeah, because he's a threat to pick up the pick up the first
• 1:14:55
  down with his legs. I'm more scared of his legs than
• 1:14:58
  his arm. Now he can beat you with his
• 1:14:59
  arm, but I'm more scared in those long yardage situations
• 1:15:04
  of, you know, a guy drops back, he hits a good, a good pass
• 1:15:08
  that's open. You can live with that.
• 1:15:10
  What you hate is having really good coverage and then the
• 1:15:13
  quarterback break containing, get a first down on the 3rd and
• 1:15:16
  long because that that pisses you off, that frustrates you.
• 1:15:19
  I know they're both first downs, but it just it it doesn't seem
• 1:15:25
  to hurt as bad. It from a mentality standpoint
• 1:15:28
  of a defense when you do all the things right and they still get
• 1:15:31
  a first down versus when you kind of let let something slip
• 1:15:34
  by and all of a sudden the guy takes off and he gets the first
• 1:15:37
  down with his legs. Right.
• 1:15:39
  Absolutely. All right, well, that's the
• 1:15:40
  offense and some names to knowing things to look for.
• 1:15:43
  Let's flip over to the defense and Brian, what we got scheme
• 1:15:46
  wise going on here. This one's kind of familiar too.
• 1:15:49
  We got a 425 with the true nickel package.
• 1:15:54
  Well, she auto's done that for years, so that doesn't shock me.
• 1:15:58
  That doesn't shock you at all. I mean, they're they're not
• 1:16:02
  overly impressive, but they are extremely sound, like nothing
• 1:16:07
  about them necessarily jumps off the tape.
• 1:16:11
  But they don't fuck up a lot. You're not going to catch them
• 1:16:14
  out of position very often. You're not going to see them
• 1:16:17
  blow a ton of coverage. You're not going to get those
• 1:16:20
  big chunk plays because of something they did wrong.
• 1:16:22
  You got to do something right. So that's going to be the big
• 1:16:26
  thing. But to that point, they haven't
• 1:16:29
  really been tested much this year.
• 1:16:30
  I mean, they played Northwestern, that's in a
• 1:16:32
  fucking crisis mode, and then they played Temple that barely
• 1:16:35
  got past Akron. So I'm not really from from a
• 1:16:40
  from a test standpoint, they haven't really been pushed yet.
• 1:16:43
  Hopefully we could at least do that in the passing game, give
• 1:16:46
  them a little bit of fit there and they do have, like I said,
• 1:16:49
  they do have a true nickel package.
• 1:16:50
  It's actually A33 stack with a tight look of their DN's there.
• 1:16:55
  So very similar to what we've seen from Purdue and from ODU
• 1:17:00
  the last two weeks when they go into that nickel package.
• 1:17:04
  And some of the players that will talk about, I guess I'll
• 1:17:07
  talk about the first player that should be very familiar to a lot
• 1:17:11
  of Virginia Tech fans, Tyrene Powell.
• 1:17:15
  He was actually committed to Virginia Tech.
• 1:17:18
  And flipped, I think on early signing day.
• 1:17:22
  He is a New Jersey kid. He only had three offers from
• 1:17:25
  what they're reporting. It was Virginia Tech, it was
• 1:17:28
  Rutgers and it was Temple. He was about listed at a high
• 1:17:38
  school there in New Jersey, but they've got him listed now at
• 1:17:42
  65245 so. That's a big guy, you know what
• 1:17:48
  I'm saying? Looking at his production, I
• 1:17:50
  think he's averaging around 8 tackles a game.
• 1:17:54
  So not crazy, crazy numbers, but he is.
• 1:17:58
  He is around the, he is around the football and like you said,
• 1:18:02
  he's steady. Last year he had about 70
• 1:18:05
  tackles. I think he had about 3 sacks.
• 1:18:07
  I got to go back and check that for sure, but I know he had
• 1:18:09
  about 70 tackles last year. So he he flies around the field.
• 1:18:14
  That we'll have to account for on their defense.
• 1:18:17
  Playing linebacker, Brian, what you got away?
• 1:18:20
  Yeah, I mean, he plays that will or backer spot in that 4/2.
• 1:18:25
  He's really great in pursuit that that's really probably his
• 1:18:28
  bread and butter. Sometimes he does lose coverage
• 1:18:30
  responsibility, contain responsibility because of that
• 1:18:34
  overzealousness to kind of get in that pursuit angle.
• 1:18:39
  Really good gap discipline in in the run game.
• 1:18:42
  So if it's not a contained position, he does a good job of
• 1:18:45
  getting his fits on the interior there, making plays with a lot
• 1:18:48
  of scrimmage. And they will occasionally bring
• 1:18:51
  him on pressure, sometimes up the middle, sometimes off the
• 1:18:54
  edge. So he he, he is a pretty
• 1:18:55
  proficient pass rusher as well from that blitzing linebacker
• 1:18:59
  position. So kind of hurts you in a lot of
• 1:19:02
  different ways. But again, kind of like the
• 1:19:05
  defense. Not, not elite, but pretty sound
• 1:19:09
  and a good ballplayer. Overall, yeah, definitely.
• 1:19:14
  Awesome. Well, let's let's go from the
• 1:19:17
  linebacker room, let's go up to the defensive line because
• 1:19:19
  someone that just looking around looking at his background kind
• 1:19:23
  of stood out to me was Renee Conga, Renee Conga, A2020,
• 1:19:31
  commit from Canada. He was considered the best high
• 1:19:35
  school prospect in Canada when he came out six foot four, about
• 1:19:42
  £290.00. And this season you know, not
• 1:19:46
  looking everything, but sometimes when you don't see a
• 1:19:48
  lot of stats but you see something like he's already got
• 1:19:52
  a forced fumble, he's got a sack, another tackle for loss, a
• 1:19:54
  total of five tackles. I want to know I wanted Brian to
• 1:19:59
  look at him, to figure out, hey, where's he playing and what's he
• 1:20:02
  doing because. Just looking at reading about
• 1:20:06
  him, it's like he seems like a pretty athletic guy because he
• 1:20:08
  came out at only 240 and now he's already up to 290.
• 1:20:12
  What? What is he doing?
• 1:20:13
  Brian Yeah, he's actually their primary interior defensive
• 1:20:17
  tackle. He plays that one, that two eye
• 1:20:20
  technique in their base package. He'll slide to the zero and
• 1:20:24
  nickel. Yeah, deceptively quick with the
• 1:20:27
  motor, you know he said he's up to 290 now.
• 1:20:30
  He's probably, he's probably plays about.
• 1:20:33
  You know, £10 lighter as far as his speed and quickness and he
• 1:20:36
  occupies blockers, pretty well considered.
• 1:20:38
  He's undersized for probably an interior lineman, probably just
• 1:20:42
  a little bit under what you would expect there.
• 1:20:46
  But it, like I said, occupies blockers well and hopefully we
• 1:20:50
  can handle him in there in the middle.
• 1:20:51
  But they do rotate their interior lineman a lot, so we'll
• 1:20:54
  see if they end up, you know how much, how many snaps he gets in
• 1:20:59
  this game. Well, I find it interesting to
• 1:21:02
  see it here, a guy playing and and I know it's their nickel
• 1:21:05
  set, so they're probably doing it for schematic reasons.
• 1:21:08
  But to play a guy that's 64290 ish on a 0, to play him over top
• 1:21:13
  of the center, I mean, what are they trying to do with that?
• 1:21:16
  Yeah, I mean it's, you know, they're not going to the nickel
• 1:21:18
  unless they're trying to get after the passer.
• 1:21:20
  So, I mean, he's he's a guy, like I said, with it, with his
• 1:21:22
  motor and his skill set, he can get by interior lineman pretty
• 1:21:26
  quick and make that play so. That's really what it's all
• 1:21:29
  about, getting getting kind of those mismatches on the interior
• 1:21:32
  for pass rush purposes. Nice.
• 1:21:35
  I will look at. We'll look at one additional guy
• 1:21:38
  on the defensive side of the ball and that is the defensive
• 1:21:41
  back. Flip Dixon.
• 1:21:44
  Flip Dixon, also known as Michael Dixon.
• 1:21:47
  If you're trying to look him up, he was an original commit to
• 1:21:52
  Minnesota. He was ranked in 87 as he came
• 1:21:54
  out of high school, ranked as an 87 when he hit the portal
• 1:21:57
  transferring from Minnesota over to Rutgers.
• 1:22:03
  And so far in his career, 59 tackles, 2 1/2 tackles were
• 1:22:08
  lost. Only one pick 5 past
• 1:22:10
  deflections, so obviously, you know, Not getting a ton of PT
• 1:22:17
  his first three seasons. Finally seeing the field more
• 1:22:19
  this year than he had any previous year.
• 1:22:23
  What are we taking a look at when we take a look at this guy?
• 1:22:26
  You know, 6 to 210 pound, Where does he play exactly?
• 1:22:29
  Brian In the defensive secondary #10.
• 1:22:33
  Yeah, let's start with his name. He sounds like somebody's uncle,
• 1:22:35
  right? Flip, flip, Dicks.
• 1:22:39
  But no he he plays boundary safety.
• 1:22:43
  Not used a ton in man coverage, mostly kind of read and react.
• 1:22:45
  Zone type of safety there. Really great and run support.
• 1:22:51
  He comes up, makes plays at or near the line of scrimmage very
• 1:22:54
  well. But where I've seen some
• 1:22:57
  weakness in this game is that he can get turned around if there's
• 1:23:00
  a double move or something where or you can get him kind of lean
• 1:23:04
  in one way and then change direction.
• 1:23:06
  Doesn't change direction as well as you'd probably like him to,
• 1:23:08
  but he's really good at. Diagnosing and kind of coming up
• 1:23:14
  and make your place. So if he's moving forward, he's
• 1:23:16
  a danger. If you get him back peddling a
• 1:23:18
  little bit, you can probably get a little bit of a of run against
• 1:23:22
  him. Good deal, good deal.
• 1:23:25
  So again, there's what you're looking at.
• 1:23:27
  You're kind of looking at a very similar tight defense that you
• 1:23:30
  see with the Hokies every week and there are some players
• 1:23:34
  there, obviously that you should be on the lookout for while
• 1:23:38
  watching the game. Well, next thing we're going to
• 1:23:41
  do, boys, we got four of them here.
• 1:23:43
  We're going somebody's taking one, somebody's taking two.
• 1:23:45
  We got the Hokies keys to victory tally.
• 1:23:49
  You see them all up there. We talked about them.
• 1:23:51
  Which one are you strongest towards on this?
• 1:23:53
  The the the number one that we have on there, I think it's
• 1:23:56
  number one in our hearts and mind right now.
• 1:23:59
  Don't let their quarterback kill us with his legs.
• 1:24:02
  As a Hokie fan, how many games have we watched that?
• 1:24:05
  Usually it's a backup quarterback that comes in and
• 1:24:09
  freaking. Kills us with his legs.
• 1:24:12
  We got to be disciplined. We got to stay in our gaps.
• 1:24:16
  We got to get home when we can get a sack we got.
• 1:24:19
  We cannot let their quarterback kill us with his legs this week.
• 1:24:23
  They're going to be amped. They're at home.
• 1:24:26
  They got a chance to go three and oh, we got to go in that.
• 1:24:30
  We got to go in there and we got to want it.
• 1:24:32
  I mean, sometimes going on the road is sometimes going on the
• 1:24:38
  road is good for your team. Because it's just you and the
• 1:24:42
  boys and you just pull together and you don't worry about your
• 1:24:45
  girlfriend coming over before the game.
• 1:24:47
  You don't worry about all the extra stuff.
• 1:24:49
  You're all just there with your gamemates and it's just y'all
• 1:24:53
  against the world. It's just y'all against that,
• 1:24:55
  y'all against the fans. You know they're fans.
• 1:24:59
  So I know that the Hokies are going to take some fans up there
• 1:25:02
  and we're going to show out like we always do, but we could not
• 1:25:05
  let that quarterback kill us with his legs.
• 1:25:07
  Yeah, Billy Pad and his crew are going to be out there in full
• 1:25:10
  force. So it'll be it'll be a large
• 1:25:11
  contingency at least somewhere in that stadium.
• 1:25:14
  Come on, man, represent up there, Billy, Billy and them
• 1:25:17
  Daleks going up. I'm sure Kenny going up too.
• 1:25:20
  Yeah, I'm. I'm going to go flip it and say
• 1:25:22
  I'm with you as well. But it's the quarterback on our
• 1:25:25
  side. Quarterback has become part of
• 1:25:27
  the run game this week. It's going to help the offensive
• 1:25:30
  line out. It's going to make that defense,
• 1:25:32
  make decisions that in the first two weeks, because of who
• 1:25:36
  they're playing, they've been able to be sound right, Brian,
• 1:25:39
  they have no one that can hurt them.
• 1:25:41
  They have no sort of things like that that can hurt them.
• 1:25:45
  So I think it's that Billy we know you're going to represent
• 1:25:49
  up there, man. We know Billy's going to be
• 1:25:50
  leading the leading the cheers, screaming his lungs out.
• 1:25:54
  But we get that quarterback running game going.
• 1:25:58
  You're going to see this offense look different.
• 1:26:00
  You're going to see the line play better and love it.
• 1:26:04
  We got to do it. Got to do it, Brian.
• 1:26:07
  We'll let you wrap up with two, man.
• 1:26:09
  What's the first one? Yeah, I'm going to say this.
• 1:26:13
  We got we we we didn't tackle great last week.
• 1:26:16
  So this is a team that runs they, they run the ball pretty
• 1:26:19
  well. They run a lot of screens.
• 1:26:21
  You got to stay disciplined, You got to tackle well.
• 1:26:24
  You don't do those two things. It's going to be a long day, all
• 1:26:28
  right. And I'm going to wrap this up
• 1:26:30
  with kind of something a little bit similar.
• 1:26:32
  We're going to just flip it back, like Curtis said, to the
• 1:26:34
  other side of the ball. We got to use scheme.
• 1:26:37
  We got to use quick passes to supplement the run game,
• 1:26:42
  essentially turning pass plays into run plays.
• 1:26:46
  Get the ball into the hands of the receivers, into the hands of
• 1:26:49
  the running back quickly in the passing game.
• 1:26:52
  Let them make some plays in space.
• 1:26:54
  Spread this defense out a little bit, so there will be at least a
• 1:26:57
  little bit of room to maneuver in the middle of that defense.
• 1:27:01
  And you know, if you do it in a quick way, you're not
• 1:27:03
  endangering your quarterback because you're not dropping them
• 1:27:05
  back five or seven yards in the pocket and having to sling it
• 1:27:10
  every time. If we can get into better those
• 1:27:12
  third and manageable situations, you don't get your quarterback
• 1:27:15
  killed either, Especially when you're probably, as Curtis
• 1:27:17
  alluded to, going to be using your quarterback in the run game
• 1:27:20
  a little bit more this week. So freaking loosely.
• 1:27:24
  All right, well boys, we get to where it is every week.
• 1:27:27
  It is prediction time before we say our prediction, Shelton is
• 1:27:31
  not here with us this week. But Shelton has not only made
• 1:27:34
  the prediction for this game, he made all the other predictions
• 1:27:38
  too. When we get the big screeners in
• 1:27:39
  a few minutes and I wish we we got we got to start doing when
• 1:27:43
  he can't come home show you got to make a three, a 2 minute
• 1:27:46
  video and we're going to post it on here.
• 1:27:48
  We'll write that down as a future thing.
• 1:27:50
  But Shelton, I think Shelton. Shelton was up in the box last
• 1:27:55
  week watching the Purdue game. Sheldon's heard.
• 1:27:58
  And Shelton's taking the bad guys.
• 1:28:00
  He's taking the Scarlet Knights 2414.
• 1:28:03
  Brian, who you got? Yeah, I think Sheldon watched
• 1:28:06
  that offensive line really close this last few days and I think
• 1:28:10
  that's what he's feeling right now.
• 1:28:11
  And I I don't blame him, but I think drones comes in and gives
• 1:28:16
  the offense a little bit of pop. I think the defense steps up.
• 1:28:20
  I think the defense understands the urgency of the situation
• 1:28:23
  that we're facing right now. And I think the the good guys go
• 1:28:26
  up to Piscataway and come away with 1/24/21.
• 1:28:30
  Alrighty, I am not far off. Here's why I'm not far off.
• 1:28:35
  Because last week on offense we played AD minus almost failed.
• 1:28:42
  We still within one touchdown. Last week we played A/C, maybe C
• 1:28:46
  minus. Defensive game.
• 1:28:48
  We didn't get home. We missed some tackles.
• 1:28:51
  We let screwed up. Things happen.
• 1:28:52
  We played a pretty crappy game overall.
• 1:28:55
  We lost by one score. We lost by one score.
• 1:29:01
  First of all, before we do this, PB says no, they're not getting
• 1:29:06
  24. No, Pete, they're not getting
• 1:29:08
  24. Hokies win 2017 power on drones,
• 1:29:12
  runs for one touchdown at least. Sally, we're going to let you
• 1:29:16
  close this one out, man. Where?
• 1:29:17
  Are we? I know y'all going to, I know
• 1:29:19
  y'all going to feel good about this, but.
• 1:29:22
  I'm taking Rutgers, man. I'm going to say 2821 Rutgers.
• 1:29:26
  I got them taking it now. I'm going to tell you why I did
• 1:29:30
  that. I am going under the assumption
• 1:29:33
  that Cunningham knows what he's talking about because he's the
• 1:29:37
  one that put out the that put out the depth chart.
• 1:29:40
  And I got Grant Wells as my Q B1 on that depth chart.
• 1:29:43
  So I'm going as Grant, as the Q, B1 and I'm going we lose by one
• 1:29:47
  score because that's what we've been doing in the past now.
• 1:29:51
  If this game starts and I see drones in the backfield, I might
• 1:29:55
  feel a little different, but I got to go with what I see right
• 1:29:57
  now. I got to go with my man,
• 1:29:59
  Cunningham said. Because that's my guy, so I'm
• 1:30:03
  gonna play Rutgers 2821, me and Brian going, Hunch's drone star
• 1:30:09
  and Tally says. Until he sees one taking the
• 1:30:12
  first nap and he ain't going over.
• 1:30:14
  Yeah, and let's go ahead and let's go ahead and throw the
• 1:30:16
  graphic up here so we can take a look at what we got here.
• 1:30:19
  Big screeners, other games going on on Saturday.
• 1:30:24
  I can't wait. By the way, Tally, I'm heading
• 1:30:26
  over to Sigla's house Saturday afternoon.
• 1:30:29
  Me, the wife, the kids, he going grill us some burgers, he going,
• 1:30:33
  you know, we going, we going to watch the game, we going to have
• 1:30:36
  a lot of good fun. And you know what?
• 1:30:40
  They go right there. That's up first, but the first
• 1:30:43
  game we're going to take a look at, Brian is Brian's big
• 1:30:47
  Screener of the Week. Because after he kicks me out of
• 1:30:49
  his house probably about 7:00, because that's when the kids
• 1:30:51
  going to crash, he's going to be turning on NBC, Saturday Night
• 1:30:55
  Football, Purdue versus Syracuse.
• 1:30:59
  Brian, who you taking in this game?
• 1:31:02
  Someone we going to play later or someone you've already seen
• 1:31:04
  on the field? You know what, I was rolling
• 1:31:08
  this one back and forth. I think this is a pretty even
• 1:31:11
  matchup. Just like, I think you know the
• 1:31:13
  matchup last week was I've got the Boilermakers by that much,
• 1:31:22
  so give me Perdue, Callie who you got on this one, Perdue, or
• 1:31:26
  you got the cues. I got, I got the Boilermakers,
• 1:31:31
  man. I got, I'm kind of with Brian on
• 1:31:33
  this. I think the Boilermakers is
• 1:31:35
  going to pull this one off. You think the bowler makers
• 1:31:38
  going to pull it off? Alrighty, alrighty.
• 1:31:41
  I get to go next. I don't think they are.
• 1:31:45
  I don't. I honestly don't because they're
• 1:31:48
  going to have to bring a lot more.
• 1:31:50
  Syracuse has been playing some cream puffs up front.
• 1:31:52
  They're going, I believe this, is this at the Dome or is this
• 1:31:55
  in bust Lafay yet? Let me look here.
• 1:32:00
  I just like to know who's playing who where I.
• 1:32:02
  Believe. I was.
• 1:32:03
  I think it is. It is that Purdue's the.
• 1:32:06
  Line Brian Brian caught this. He gave me 3 instead of 2 1/2 To
• 1:32:11
  lay or to get but or to lay Excuse me, but yeah, Purdue's to
• 1:32:17
  me did not overly impressed me. Anyone with a capable offense is
• 1:32:22
  going to probably beat them this year and I think Syracuse is
• 1:32:24
  capable enough. Shelton has taken.
• 1:32:31
  Drum roll, Syracuse. Thank you All.
• 1:32:35
  Righty, Brian. By the way, do you have our
• 1:32:37
  records for last week or can? We get them.
• 1:32:41
  I thought you grabbed them. But I can grab them.
• 1:32:43
  I can grab them. You grab them while I pull up
• 1:32:45
  mine because where I went here, classic rivalry.
• 1:32:49
  Backyard Brawl, Pitt, West Virginia games going to be in
• 1:32:53
  Morgantown. This is basically a tight one.
• 1:32:59
  It's basically a coin flip and I'm going to take Pitt because
• 1:33:04
  what I've seen of West Virginia this year, they've not been
• 1:33:07
  impressive. Pitt hasn't impressed me either.
• 1:33:10
  But I I I think the way it is is I think nor Douzy has his guys,
• 1:33:14
  Neil Brown. Every loss everybody gets a
• 1:33:18
  little less and less involved. We know that feeling.
• 1:33:21
  We've been there before. So give me pit.
• 1:33:24
  Brian Shelton has Pitt as well. Alrighty Tally, you going to
• 1:33:31
  make it three in a row or you going oppo?
• 1:33:34
  No, man, I got to go pit on this one, man.
• 1:33:36
  I'm going to go pit. And it was hard for me to say
• 1:33:38
  that just because I hate them, but I hate West Virginia as much
• 1:33:42
  or more. So I wish they could play a game
• 1:33:45
  that nobody wins, but I guess somebody got to win and I'm
• 1:33:50
  going to take pit. So yeah.
• 1:33:53
  I'm right there with you. I'm taking Pitt as well.
• 1:33:58
  This line probably be a lot bigger if it was, if it was at
• 1:34:01
  Pitt. I mean, I think West Virginia is
• 1:34:03
  getting a lot of home loving here.
• 1:34:04
  I don't think West Virginia is a very good football team and I
• 1:34:08
  think every game they're playing at this point is whether or not
• 1:34:13
  Neil Brown gets closer and closer to getting fired.
• 1:34:16
  So Narduzzi is obviously firmly entrenched for the foreseeable
• 1:34:22
  future at Pitt. I feel like that's a much more.
• 1:34:25
  Stable situation and I think they're going to go and handle
• 1:34:27
  that game regardless of the raucous environment there in
• 1:34:30
  Morgantown. Alrighty.
• 1:34:32
  So pit across the board here now.
• 1:34:35
  Y'all this is, this is one of those things you know, you get
• 1:34:37
  college football fame when you see Florida, Tennessee play.
• 1:34:42
  What do y'all know? It's they hate each other, they
• 1:34:46
  hate each other. But third Saturday in September,
• 1:34:51
  we three weeks in the season tally, you picking this one,
• 1:34:54
  This is going to be, I think at the Swamp Saturday night.
• 1:34:59
  Let me let me confirm that at the swamps and we going to have
• 1:35:04
  your big screeners going to be running three games in a row
• 1:35:07
  right there in the Siglo. Oh yeah, right.
• 1:35:11
  There. Who you got Tally.
• 1:35:13
  This is your game. Yeah, I'm going to take
• 1:35:15
  Tennessee in that game, man. I think Tennessee is going to go
• 1:35:19
  in there and they're going, they're going to get the win and
• 1:35:21
  they're going to cover. All righty Shelton is right
• 1:35:25
  along with Tally on that as well and and I'm with you right now,
• 1:35:29
  just Florida has no juice. Florida has no juice right now
• 1:35:34
  and and I don't know and everybody's talking about what
• 1:35:37
  Napier's recruiting all these guys.
• 1:35:39
  Well, it's Florida. You I hope you're recruiting
• 1:35:41
  somewhere in the top ten. You're Florida.
• 1:35:44
  If you ain't, you're even in bigger trouble.
• 1:35:47
  Yeah, and I mean their their NIL situation is in shambles right
• 1:35:50
  now with the. Everything that's coming out
• 1:35:53
  about that, I don't know if that plays to be bearing on this
• 1:35:55
  game, but it does play bearing on whether they can kind of
• 1:35:58
  pull, continue to pull on those recruits.
• 1:35:59
  But I'm right there. I think Tennessee pulls this one
• 1:36:02
  out. I think it's it's about a
• 1:36:04
  touchdown game, maybe a 8-9 point game.
• 1:36:06
  I don't think it's a blowout, but I think Tennessee handles
• 1:36:09
  their business down there. And my bad, that was Shelton,
• 1:36:12
  not Tally's. Because Tally, this is yours.
• 1:36:15
  Yes, that's mine. And they're giving, Yeah,
• 1:36:19
  they're giving Ole Miss a lot of points in that game.
• 1:36:23
  I don't think Georgia Tech is great, but I hate the SEC and
• 1:36:29
  the ACC. We've been holding our own
• 1:36:31
  against that against, Well, except for UVA, we've been
• 1:36:35
  holding our own. So I don't think Georgia Tech
• 1:36:40
  wins this game, but I think they do cover.
• 1:36:43
  I think they may lose by about 1410 to 14.
• 1:36:48
  But that's what that's where I met.
• 1:36:50
  I got Georgia Tech, I I'm not far behind you because we took
• 1:36:54
  Tulane last week and we lost that bet.
• 1:36:58
  But Tulane was playing without a starting quarterback and they
• 1:37:00
  hung on forever and ever, keeping that A1 score game until
• 1:37:04
  finally Ole mistook it in the end.
• 1:37:07
  So I I think probably a full stack Georgia Tech.
• 1:37:10
  Georgia Tech's going to score 20 points in 1/4 and that's why we
• 1:37:13
  going to cover right there. They might not do anything
• 1:37:17
  before or after, but they going to score like 20 plus points in
• 1:37:20
  1/4. There you go.
• 1:37:24
  Who's Sheldon on on this one? Sheldon went Georgia Tech as
• 1:37:27
  well. 19 1/2 is so much delay. Yeah, you know what though?
• 1:37:32
  There we go. I'm going for it.
• 1:37:35
  So you going for old missile? I, I just don't think, I think
• 1:37:39
  at some point the day I was going to break and there's going
• 1:37:41
  to be a run, you know, Curtis said.
• 1:37:43
  Georgia Tech's going to score 21 quarter.
• 1:37:44
  I think there's going to be 1/4 where Old Miss kind of puts puts
• 1:37:47
  a little distance between themselves and and Georgia Tech.
• 1:37:51
  Anybody will do it. I don't do it.
• 1:37:53
  He'll he'll run that score. He does not care about that at
• 1:37:57
  all. All right, two more big game.
• 1:37:59
  I wouldn't say big game. This is kind of the this is
• 1:38:02
  truly if y'all look this. If y'all look the next weekend,
• 1:38:06
  have y'all looked at next weekend yet?
• 1:38:07
  I haven't looked yet. Now I'm gonna give y'all a
• 1:38:09
  second real quick y'all. Pull up y'all's computers.
• 1:38:12
  Go look at next weekend slate. Go look at next weekend.
• 1:38:15
  Slate. Week 4.
• 1:38:18
  College football. We're a month in.
• 1:38:20
  Go look at next weekend's Top 25 slate.
• 1:38:25
  Yeah, we rolling pretty good. Oklahoma, Cincy, Colorado,
• 1:38:29
  Oregon, Mississippi, Ole, Ole Miss and Alabama, Arkansas, LSU,
• 1:38:36
  Texas, Notre Dame, Ohio State, Penn State, Iowa, Clemson, FSU.
• 1:38:44
  I mean, I mean. There's a kid in nothing to
• 1:38:47
  sneeze at in the next week is this is like an appetizer course
• 1:38:52
  this week? Next week's Insane and I think
• 1:38:55
  my kids are playing both in the middle of the day playing fall
• 1:38:57
  ball. I.
• 1:38:58
  Mean this? This week's slate is a little
• 1:38:59
  bit underwhelming, especially after last week.
• 1:39:03
  Oh yeah, 100%. But there there are a couple
• 1:39:05
  interesting ones. And.
• 1:39:06
  There's interesting games. There's not marquee games, but
• 1:39:09
  there's interesting games. There's good matchups.
• 1:39:11
  Even if you're not getting that marquee, you know, 2 ranked
• 1:39:15
  opponents or like you know you got to look at a W like Curtis.
• 1:39:19
  You picked West Virginia Pit because there's history there.
• 1:39:22
  There's not a whole lot of there's not a ton of accolades
• 1:39:24
  currently right now. But you know there there's
• 1:39:28
  definitely the history there that you can fall back on.
• 1:39:31
  Well let's go to one of those ones.
• 1:39:32
  It's it's it's a it's a inner conference or an inner
• 1:39:36
  conference route match up a CC big 10.
• 1:39:39
  Minnesota North Carolina, Minnesota is only is is 2 and O.
• 1:39:44
  They've given up eight points a game but they're only scoring 19
• 1:39:47
  points a game. Brian, who you taking on this
• 1:39:50
  one? I got the Tar Heels.
• 1:39:52
  I think they got a scare last week and I think that kind of
• 1:39:55
  woke their asses up a little bit.
• 1:39:57
  I think they they handled their business this week against
• 1:40:00
  Minnesota. Tyler, you up next?
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  Who you got? Man, I got to go.
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  You and see, man, I got to go you and see when it's hard for
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  me to, to bet against. They've got a really good
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  quarterback, you know, besides whatever else they have.
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  When you have a really good quarterback, it can do a lot of
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  stuff for your team. So I got to go.
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  You and see, Yeah, it's a home game.
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  If it was maybe up in Minnesota I'd think about taking the
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  points. But in this case I I think I
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  personally think Carolina's going to absolutely blow the
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  doors off Minnesota. If you told me this was 12 1/2 I
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  might would take 12 1/2. So give me Carolina as well.
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  Shelton is the outlier here. He likes Minnesota.
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  Shelton likes to row the boat. Clearly Johnny ain't here to
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  defend yourself so we going to put some we going to put some
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  things on your name row the boat.
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  I-1 last one Big 12, SCC matchup.
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  Mizzou at K State. I think both teams are two and
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  OI am not mistaken they are. They are both two and O.
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  But Missouri played somebody like week one.
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  That was not a good team and I remember watching this like how
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  in the world oh here you go they played South Dakota.
• 1:41:19
  That was a game pretty much until that was not a game.
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  But they struggled with Middle Tennessee State last week
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  ruggled. So, Tally, who you taking in
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  this one? Man, I got to go K State.
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  I told y'all, I hate the SEC. Billy, you said that's big boy
• 1:41:36
  ball. I said that's little balls
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  football. You know, I'm going, I'm going K
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  State, man. I think they're going.
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  I mean, K State's always got a pretty tough program.
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  They play hard, they're playing at home.
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  All jokes aside, it's an early game, so I'm going to take K
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  State in that game. All righty.
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  Siglo yeah it's it's got to be K State.
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  I mean K State is looks like a solid solid team this year
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  Mizzou 2 and O but I mean that that that that's a fraudulent
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  looking two and O with the the outcome against Middle Tennessee
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  and then you know only getting by South Dakota 3510.
• 1:42:19
  So not not overly impressive there either.
• 1:42:22
  So give me Kansas State and I'm with y'all make this a trifecta
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  it's only 5 to lay it. Yeah five ain't enough.
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  I think Kansas State wins this 110 to 14.
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  It'll probably be another probably taking.
• 1:42:36
  It at 9 1/2, so I'll definitely take it at 5:00 what Sheldon got
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  on this one. We're we're we're sweeping this
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  one sweeping. So we've got 3 picks we are
• 1:42:47
  absolutely on. And then one mix, 2 mix picks
• 1:42:50
  and then one pick everybody. It's one person against the rest
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  of us. Awesome.
• 1:42:55
  Those are our big screens. We'll put them out there to let
• 1:42:57
  everybody. Put Billy's last hold on.
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  Billy wants this one. And I yeah, Curtis, you take a
• 1:43:04
  look at that and tell them what you think about that first.
• 1:43:07
  That's just I think I'm going to take South Carolina and give me
• 1:43:11
  the 27 1/2 Georgia has not. Georgia has been so slow out of
• 1:43:15
  the gate, not once but twice, you know, against UT Martin and
• 1:43:20
  then last week. I think that's too big.
• 1:43:24
  I I I think George is in that situation where they're
• 1:43:28
  retooling. Bowers is a crazy, crazy tight
• 1:43:33
  end, but right now they're trying to figure out what else
• 1:43:37
  to do and to to say you're going to lay 4 touchdowns, that's a
• 1:43:41
  lot. Just because in some ways I
• 1:43:44
  think Shane will revert back to pops and try to slow the game
• 1:43:47
  down and just make it a ground fest.
• 1:43:52
  Yeah, I think I if if it was like a line about 2020 or 20 I
• 1:43:57
  I'd I'd go over there. But yeah, I'm I'm taking the
• 1:44:02
  cocks in this situation, so touchdowns a ton.
• 1:44:04
  Yeah, usually, usually feels like, Y'all said about 20.
• 1:44:07
  I would have, I would have took Georgia, but would have been 27,
• 1:44:11
  1/2. I'm still taking Georgia because
• 1:44:15
  train was on that crime about the staff eating hot dogs.
• 1:44:19
  When you start getting on TV and talking and complaining and
• 1:44:22
  crying, you look you playing losing football.
• 1:44:25
  Shane, get your keys ready. Come on home.
• 1:44:28
  You might we might need you to coach something up here at Tech.
• 1:44:31
  Come get on staff. Y'all about to got y'all about
• 1:44:34
  to get beat by about 3535, he says 35.
• 1:44:38
  OK, write that down, alright. Anything breaking in the last
• 1:44:42
  little while here, boys? Nope, not that I've seen.
• 1:44:47
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