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All or Nothing: The O-Town Journey with Trevor Penick · Teach Me Something Hosted By DJ Prostyle & Penny Dellas

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  Speaker 1: Hey, what's up.
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  Speaker 2: This is DJ pro Style and this is Penny tell
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  Speaker 2: Us and this is teach Me Something brought to you
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  Speaker 2: by Berkeley College.
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  Speaker 1: We are back, ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, welcome
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  Speaker 1: to teach Me Something presented by Berkeley College.
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  Speaker 2: I am Pro Style and I am Penny tell Us.
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  Speaker 2: Are you feeling Penny, I'm feeling great.
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  Speaker 1: Let's talk about this this alpha you have on.
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  Speaker 2: I know I'm wearing. I'm wearing some throwback some throwback
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  Speaker 2: merch lines and circle shut out to the boys, O
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  Speaker 2: town right, pop phenomenon. But I'm really excited.
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  Speaker 1: About this merch Can you explain? Why? Can you explain?
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  Speaker 2: I am? I'm so excited because I'm a towny. Right,
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  Speaker 2: all my townies that are listening, we can all scream
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  Speaker 2: together in three two two one.
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  Speaker 1: Let's go.
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  Speaker 2: You're not screaming the scream there. But we're so excited
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  Speaker 2: because we have Trevor in the building shop in post building.
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  Speaker 1: What's up? Man, Thanks for coming.
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  Speaker 3: Through, man, thank you for having me.
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  Speaker 1: This is we're talking about this this episode for a minute.
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  Speaker 2: I'm excited, but you know, I know I'm excited. I'm excited.
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  Speaker 2: First of all, Okay, y'all are celebrating so many milestones. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: making the Bandah, making the band two thousand, twenty fifth anniversary.
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  Speaker 2: The New York City event a City Winery was crazy.
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  Speaker 2: It was beautiful and we started talking about the pod
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  Speaker 2: since then, yes, with bringing you guys to the pod.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I was just hopefully we'll be back at the
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  Speaker 4: City Winery this year. Okay, possibly we could come back
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  Speaker 4: as a whole.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that'll come say What's up?
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  Speaker 1: Part two? Normally we always need a part to anyway,
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  Speaker 1: we need a part of talk so much that you know,
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  Speaker 1: like ask like three questions, take.
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  Speaker 2: Up you already know, pencil it in the team's calendar.
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  Speaker 2: You're coming back to iHeart Yeah, no, we love it.
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  Speaker 2: So two thousand so yeah, your entire life was on
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  Speaker 2: TV and you all are on YouTube now rewatching.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, you know, it's crazy because when we did that,
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  Speaker 4: I don't remember. We did it one day, you know,
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  Speaker 4: a day and a half, just consecutive over and over,
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  Speaker 4: so I don't remember, you know what I said. You know,
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  Speaker 4: I'm watching it back. I'm like, oh, ship jokes, like,
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  Speaker 4: oh that was funny. Oh okay, okay, Like I'm really
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  Speaker 4: enjoying kind of watching it back. It was it was
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  Speaker 4: a cool experience, cool experience to do.
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  Speaker 2: Did you think at that time that you guys would
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  Speaker 2: become what you became?
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  Speaker 3: Man? No, now you know what we are now, No way.
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  Speaker 4: I mean we obviously didn't see that with it just
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  Speaker 4: being four of us now, But man, it was the
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  Speaker 4: greatest thing about since we've been back together is that
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  Speaker 4: it's been our terms the whole time. You know, last
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  Speaker 4: time it was the TV show's terms and the record
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  Speaker 4: company and this time, you know, we decided to come back.
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  Speaker 3: We wanted to.
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  Speaker 4: You know, we do everything within the business, you know,
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  Speaker 4: So it's it's just been so rewarding this time because
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  Speaker 4: we it's literally us.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's so much as a different platform now too,
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  Speaker 1: where you can have more control of things now versus
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  Speaker 1: back back in those days you kind of almost needed
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  Speaker 1: a record label and all these kind of things, right
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  Speaker 1: essentially because there wasn't social media like getting you know,
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  Speaker 1: back then you had the street teams putting up posters
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  Speaker 1: and exactly just doing all this stuff that now nowadays
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  Speaker 1: you need you could do by yourself, you know.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, the one man army exactly. Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: And that's the thing is you can speak directly to
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  Speaker 4: the fans whenever you want. You could say what you
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  Speaker 4: want to them, tell them, let them know everything.
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  Speaker 3: And you couldn't.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, you said you couldn't do that anywhere. You needed
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  Speaker 4: the label like you needed. The label was there to
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  Speaker 4: promote you, to put you on the radio. The only
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  Speaker 4: way that people could see you was if they heard
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  Speaker 4: your song on the radio. There's only twenty songs on
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  Speaker 4: each station. Yeah, there's twenty pop songs, there's twenty country songs.
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  Speaker 3: There's twenty hip hop songs that are out at any time.
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  Speaker 1: And it's just like TV also back then, so like
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  Speaker 1: MTV B.
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  Speaker 2: Exact top ten.
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  Speaker 4: You know, it's like, oh man, I knew every song
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  Speaker 4: back then, well yeah, there was only thirty five songs
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  Speaker 4: you had to know, you know, and you were like
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  Speaker 4: a human jukebox. Now, I mean, it's it's crazy, I mean,
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  Speaker 4: which is incredible.
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  Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 4: Which allows us to be able to do to do
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  Speaker 4: that right, It's like finally, after all those years of
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  Speaker 4: like taking punches from the labels, you know, the artists
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  Speaker 4: are like, nah, br we don't need you like that, no, mo,
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  Speaker 4: you know, and and it's good, it's good, especially for
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  Speaker 4: a band like ours who has the audience built in.
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  Speaker 4: What we're trying to do is still let people know
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  Speaker 4: that we are back together. Yeah, you know, we've been
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  Speaker 4: back together for twelve years and there's still people like
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  Speaker 4: we just posted one of those Puerto Rico videos.
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  Speaker 3: Check it out. It's it's on our Instagram page. It's
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  Speaker 3: really funny, it's good.
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  Speaker 4: And so many people are like, you know, oh, I
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  Speaker 4: didn't know old towns back together.
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  Speaker 3: I didn't.
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  Speaker 4: So we're still trying to tap into our fans that
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  Speaker 4: were there back in the day that don't know that.
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  Speaker 3: You Dan, Eric, Yep, yep, the four of us. So
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  Speaker 3: it's been it's.
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  Speaker 2: Crazy and break it down like who does what now?
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  Speaker 2: Because I know you guys are young design.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, so so yeah, So Jacob is essentially the brand manager.
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  Speaker 4: So he comes from like a business family and and
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  Speaker 4: he got his business degree and he's the best in business.
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  Speaker 4: I mean he is, that dude is he is so
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  Speaker 4: good at business.
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  Speaker 3: It's crazy talking to people like he.
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  Speaker 4: Just I learned so much from just watching him because
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  Speaker 4: I react emotionally and he's he's just like always.
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  Speaker 3: Is like, well this is what this is what I'm thinking?
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  Speaker 4: This is what we're gonna you know, it's just too
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  Speaker 4: Dan does the graphic design, you know, with help of
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  Speaker 4: like Eric. That's kind of eric specialty as well, is
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  Speaker 4: like the art part of it because he did a
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  Speaker 4: bunch of producing and stuff and in the time we
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  Speaker 4: weren't together.
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  Speaker 3: And then I'm more stage. You know, Hey, I'm help
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  Speaker 3: do the what do we need on social media?
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  Speaker 1: Like you know you know that guy?
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  Speaker 3: Yea.
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  Speaker 1: So it's just crazy.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, it's like I couldn't be luckier.
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  Speaker 2: That's really cool.
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  Speaker 3: And we're great friends.
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  Speaker 1: We're great friends everyone.
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  Speaker 2: I do all of them and you just show up right.
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  Speaker 4: Sometimes that's someone's role though, but when he shows up,
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  Speaker 4: he's dropping the mic on him. You know, that's where
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  Speaker 4: he shines. You gotta let him shine where he shines.
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  Speaker 4: Kyp Is know your personnelity awards.
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  Speaker 2: Over here, we have we have let's go.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: So yeah, you know, you know what it's like, you
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  Speaker 3: know what it's like exactly exactly.
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  Speaker 2: So what was like coming How did that decision come about?
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  Speaker 2: Because you guys came back, you did a gofund me
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  Speaker 2: for the album. The fans were integrated into every single
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  Speaker 2: part of the decision making process.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that was that was right.
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  Speaker 4: But the first when we came back with Lines and Circles,
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  Speaker 4: you know, it was like the ten years you know
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  Speaker 4: that's being broken up, and it was like, oh, it's
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  Speaker 4: the ten year anniversary that like, are we going to
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  Speaker 4: do this? Do you guys want to? You know, we
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  Speaker 4: had like some interest from like a label, and yeah,
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  Speaker 4: we just it was a long, very boring, drawn out story.
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  Speaker 4: We had like get Dan and Dan wasn't ready. They
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  Speaker 4: they just told him yes to every single demand he had,
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  Speaker 4: like yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, and he's like,
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  Speaker 4: all right, I'll do it.
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  Speaker 3: And now you know, none of those demands were met,
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  Speaker 3: but now he's in it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and we got him.
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  Speaker 3: So it's like one of those types of things.
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  Speaker 4: And then yeah, so then we just got got a
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  Speaker 4: label and we started talking about this album and the
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  Speaker 4: design and what we wanted to say. And you know
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  Speaker 4: what Lines and Circles means is, you know, it's ten
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  Speaker 4: years that we were you know, broken up, which is
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  Speaker 4: ten which you flip is a line in the circle
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  Speaker 4: the O and the line is the middle O and
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  Speaker 4: the O T O w N. So it's like, oh, town,
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  Speaker 4: ten years we got back together because you know, when
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  Speaker 4: people are so tight, you take this big you know,
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  Speaker 4: five people go and create their separate lines.
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  Speaker 3: You know, they go way out there. You're way out there.
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  Speaker 4: So everyone right, right, so it's a very hard, you
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  Speaker 4: know thing to do to circle back to each other.
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  Speaker 3: Yea, So lines and circles. That was like Eric's thing,
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  Speaker 3: and then he wrote the song music.
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  Speaker 1: If you guys sit down, do you guys sit down
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  Speaker 1: together and create new music and write?
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  Speaker 3: We sit down and talk about you know what, everyone
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  Speaker 3: what it's going to be.
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  Speaker 4: But we all have different like yeah, exactly, and the
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  Speaker 4: writing styles are always so different, you know. So we
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  Speaker 4: do a lot of our writing separate and then come
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  Speaker 4: in and then the production of the song that we
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  Speaker 4: chose is all like really us together.
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  Speaker 1: But that's awesome because everyone has gone on their own
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  Speaker 1: journey in life, right, and to be able to come
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  Speaker 1: back together and now hopefully put those journeys you know,
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  Speaker 1: into music, Yeah, that's awesome.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Do you also fight over cereal in the writer's camp?
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  Speaker 3: No? No, no, now, now we fight over like you know,
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  Speaker 3: I eat all the grapes. You know, it's like did
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  Speaker 3: you eat that whole bag?
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  Speaker 2: I'm like sorry you and then have a cool competition
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  Speaker 2: about this.
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  Speaker 3: Not every venue we go to, but a lot of them.
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  Speaker 4: We if there's if it's like something extravagant, like we
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  Speaker 4: played this thing called the Melody Tent up in highnas
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  Speaker 4: Cape cod and so we like.
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  Speaker 3: To he throws grapes. He threw a grape over.
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  Speaker 4: The entire venue and I catch it in my mouth, Like,
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  Speaker 4: you know.
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  Speaker 1: It sounds like choking, has it?
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  Speaker 3: It definitely is.
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  Speaker 1: I have.
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  Speaker 4: I have choked one time. I almost like swallowed it.
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  Speaker 4: But you know, if you can throw them further than
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  Speaker 4: you can marshmallows.
• 9:19
  Speaker 1: Funny story talking about that. This is totally off topic.
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  Speaker 1: I went to a hibachi the other day. I'm gonna
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  Speaker 1: say which hibashi it was, right, and so and I
• 9:27
  Speaker 1: took my kids with their kids, and we all know
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  Speaker 1: that's part of going to the hibachi experience throwing food.
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  Speaker 1: And they didn't do it really, and I was like, hey,
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  Speaker 1: you guys don't, So I asked. I was like hyping
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  Speaker 1: the kids, like the kids works throw it in your mouth.
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  Speaker 1: It was like it was gonna be a competition, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: of course, and they were like, unfortunately, we don't. We
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  Speaker 1: can't do that anymore because somebody choked one day doing
• 9:48
  Speaker 1: it and now they're suing the establishment of course, so
• 9:50
  Speaker 1: they're like the whole country stopped doing oh yeah, because.
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  Speaker 3: And I was like, oh wow, that makes perfect sense.
• 9:55
  Speaker 1: I would have a sign of the front, like trying
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  Speaker 1: to catch food, right you.
• 10:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like you're being recorded.
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  Speaker 4: You're you know, like if you're trying to do this,
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  Speaker 4: because you can't get everyone to sign something.
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  Speaker 3: But if you put up.
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  Speaker 1: Something, you put up something when they walk in.
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  Speaker 3: I'm went you because that that was you know that,
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  Speaker 3: you know the.
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  Speaker 1: Next thing, you know, they're things volcano with the fire.
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  Speaker 2: But when we went with Victoria, they didn't do that,
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  Speaker 2: and that's about your place.
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  Speaker 3: That sucks, you know what. That's one of those things
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  Speaker 3: that's like, man, that sucks. But like but if it
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  Speaker 3: was me, same damn thing. You know, it's like they
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  Speaker 3: don't do that anymore. But if that was me, you.
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  Speaker 1: Know, I begin.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that's one of those that you know, not
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  Speaker 4: like a slipping fall anything that's like my fault.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. I can understand though, too, because they try to
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  Speaker 1: force like this how many times you.
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  Speaker 4: Better take like she's got knives and come on, you
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  Speaker 4: better take.
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  Speaker 1: This, you're saying, no, they're like the broccoli just like
• 10:52
  Speaker 1: you know it.
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  Speaker 3: That is funny.
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  Speaker 2: Well, now we know what happens.
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  Speaker 1: We got to eat it over Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: So we throw it over venues.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, at a table you could choke. Imagine it coming speed.
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  Speaker 2: But y'all have never posted the bad ones.
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  Speaker 3: You just yeah we were you know, so how many
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  Speaker 3: how many did that take? How many takes?
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  Speaker 1: Was girls?
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  Speaker 4: Let's not try Like the one that I caught over
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  Speaker 4: the over the tent was like my it was my
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  Speaker 4: first catchable one, So they're not all catchable. He's throwing
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  Speaker 4: it over a thing, so it's like way left, way right,
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  Speaker 4: So that like to me that that doesn't count for me.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's not an over because I couldn't.
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  Speaker 2: I wonder different.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I played sports, Yeah'm a sports guy sports.
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  Speaker 4: So it's like, oh, I caught the second catchable one.
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  Speaker 4: You know I only dropped one or yeah, so that's
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  Speaker 4: how I counted. It's like, Muhammad Ali, you.
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  Speaker 1: Know that I'm going to throw some broccoli or something
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  Speaker 1: that you broccoli?
• 11:50
  Speaker 2: Why can't I throw things at you?
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  Speaker 1: Ice or something?
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  Speaker 3: I don't know, I've seen marshmallow.
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  Speaker 1: Don't think you have the arm.
• 11:55
  Speaker 3: I've seen Marshmallows on on on on on Instagram.
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  Speaker 1: Marshmallows, I would think of worse.
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  Speaker 3: Marsh, know because they just they just they like they
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  Speaker 3: get like if you haven't been a blue man groups.
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  Speaker 4: Right exactly, it doesn't get the distance of a grape.
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  Speaker 4: So so for us, it's better to do a great
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  Speaker 4: We actually we actually did the Guinness Book a world record, right,
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  Speaker 4: but we didn't have anybody that we didn't know it
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  Speaker 4: was a record. We looked it up after the fact
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  Speaker 4: that we're like, dude, we already did, but you have
• 12:21
  Speaker 4: to have someone.
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  Speaker 1: There, you have to have to be on site.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, So we are going back to that tent this summer,
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  Speaker 3: so I think we might we have to do it again. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I know, I know.
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  Speaker 2: Well, when you do the crews do it from one
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  Speaker 2: end to the other two.
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  Speaker 3: While the boat's moving, right, Yeah, that could be you.
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  Speaker 2: Can do that too.
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  Speaker 1: That takes that of an arm. So who's the one
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  Speaker 1: throw to show you?
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  Speaker 4: We both were sports guys first, ye yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Man, speaking of longevity right, like that we can yeah,
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  Speaker 2: speaking of longevity, right, So your music has transcended through generations.
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  Speaker 2: What is it like now seeing our generation coming in
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  Speaker 2: with the kiddos, and the kiddos knowing the songs and
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  Speaker 2: crying at the concerts and all the things.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, that is something that is still really it's it's crazy,
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  Speaker 4: it's it's it's it's a great thing that when you
• 13:25
  Speaker 4: see it, it's because my nieces and nephews that I'm like,
• 13:28
  Speaker 4: you know, you want them. You know, they're like, oh,
• 13:30
  Speaker 4: that's my uncle. But they're not like bumping it, you
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  Speaker 4: know what I mean. Like these these kids are like
• 13:34
  Speaker 4: it's like obligatory. Yeah, there, they know they're there.
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  Speaker 3: It's crazy, man, they're eight nine and they're just like,
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  Speaker 3: you know, they're looking ats like how their parents, you know,
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  Speaker 3: how their mom used to and you know, the mom's
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  Speaker 3: like you're fine, it's okay, it's good, you know, and
• 13:47
  Speaker 3: and and it's so it's so cool, man. Our fans
• 13:50
  Speaker 3: are the best and the kids, i mean the kids so.
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  Speaker 4: To be able to to do it again to the
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  Speaker 4: next generation, you know, and they like the new songs
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  Speaker 4: to you know, it's like the new stuff. They learned
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  Speaker 4: the old stuff, but they like, you know, they like
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  Speaker 4: skydive and.
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  Speaker 3: Off and it's amazing the newer stuff.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: So that's it's always cool man, it's it's surreal. It's
• 14:10
  Speaker 4: surreal to be honest, because we know it's not we're
• 14:14
  Speaker 4: not new kids, you know, because something right millions and
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  Speaker 4: they've been going through it for years, so it's not
• 14:20
  Speaker 4: you know, it's a rare occurrence, you know. So I
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  Speaker 4: love when the kids are there, Like there's girls that
• 14:27
  Speaker 4: come and watch, you know, I do like solo stuff too,
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  Speaker 4: that are coming to that.
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  Speaker 3: You know, they're like twelve thirteen.
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  Speaker 4: And then there's like high school girls now that are
• 14:34
  Speaker 4: starting to show up and they're like, oh man, you know,
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  Speaker 4: like oh because I know a teacher and a teacher
• 14:38
  Speaker 4: you know, showed them and they're like, wow, that's dope,
• 14:40
  Speaker 4: you know, saying that's cool when it's because then they
• 14:42
  Speaker 4: make that they made their mind up on their own,
• 14:44
  Speaker 4: you know, they weren't force fed by someone, and you
• 14:46
  Speaker 4: know it was like, hey, oh, I know this band,
• 14:48
  Speaker 4: like oh you know who is that? It's this band,
• 14:50
  Speaker 4: Like I'm not you guys can listen if you want.
• 14:51
  Speaker 4: And then they come back and they're like, yo, we listened.
• 14:53
  Speaker 4: It was the you know that's cool.
• 14:55
  Speaker 3: That's like you hear those stories that's like.
• 14:57
  Speaker 2: Well, like what Dreams did like a comeback on TikTok. Yeah,
• 15:00
  Speaker 2: it was trending really yeah when yeah, so millennials were
• 15:05
  Speaker 2: like listening back and it's like we never realized what
• 15:08
  Speaker 2: the song was. So because of that, like it started
• 15:11
  Speaker 2: trending with gen Z and they started doing all these videos,
• 15:15
  Speaker 2: like their own videos to the music video.
• 15:18
  Speaker 3: Wow.
• 15:19
  Speaker 2: I know because my nephew said that to me. It's like, Mammy,
• 15:21
  Speaker 2: look the guys that you used to listen to.
• 15:24
  Speaker 3: I was like, yeah, that is incredible. Can you send
• 15:27
  Speaker 3: that to me?
• 15:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 15:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you remember where it is.
• 15:29
  Speaker 2: In his text TikTok or TikTok Okay that's probably don't
• 15:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, it was a little while ago, but I said,
• 15:39
  Speaker 2: TikTok yeah, no, you just do them.
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: Just do one. I only do the tiktoks that you
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: forced me to do.
• 15:45
  Speaker 2: But they come out great, don't they.
• 15:47
  Speaker 4: That is another thing that's like that we were so
• 15:51
  Speaker 4: when we've been back together, the one thing we were
• 15:53
  Speaker 4: really lacking.
• 15:54
  Speaker 3: Was social media and we knew it.
• 15:57
  Speaker 4: Were like that's not like we would be good at it,
• 15:59
  Speaker 4: but we have no one that's like all right, guys,
• 16:01
  Speaker 4: let's do this today.
• 16:02
  Speaker 3: Let's do this today. Like we just don't.
• 16:04
  Speaker 4: If I come with something like it would just be
• 16:06
  Speaker 4: like like no, we just wouldn't.
• 16:08
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean.
• 16:09
  Speaker 4: We do the grape toss, but like that's just me
• 16:11
  Speaker 4: and Dan. I only one person like to be able
• 16:13
  Speaker 4: to get. But we finally got like a guy.
• 16:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so we have and and and we always knew
• 16:20
  Speaker 3: that if we had the person, we would be into
• 16:23
  Speaker 3: it and and good at it essentially.
• 16:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah, when you tell them to be like hey, I
• 16:29
  Speaker 4: saw this one, let's do this, and we're like it boom,
• 16:32
  Speaker 4: you know. And so like you said, like our social
• 16:33
  Speaker 4: media has been like this is our first time really
• 16:36
  Speaker 4: having it. So we've been back together for this whole
• 16:38
  Speaker 4: time that has been on there, and all we've done
• 16:39
  Speaker 4: is like.
• 16:40
  Speaker 3: Oh, here's our show, here's our show.
• 16:42
  Speaker 4: Like you know, just promoting the live show, and we
• 16:44
  Speaker 4: haven't really done social media.
• 16:46
  Speaker 3: So it's really fun to do social media as a job.
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: I get it. It's like it's a full time job.
• 16:51
  Speaker 3: Oh, it's definitely a full time job.
• 16:53
  Speaker 4: And that's why I realize everybody has social media media
• 16:56
  Speaker 4: managers and that's why that is such a huge commodity.
• 17:00
  Speaker 4: And if you can do that for people, young people
• 17:02
  Speaker 4: out there, whoever you are or if you want to
• 17:04
  Speaker 4: be a social media manager.
• 17:05
  Speaker 3: Is they are needed.
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: By everyone because not everyone has it.
• 17:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah, not everyone gets.
• 17:11
  Speaker 4: There's so many people I know they're like, oh, I
• 17:13
  Speaker 4: would love to do like a podcast or whatever, but I.
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: Just I don't.
• 17:17
  Speaker 4: They don't have the kick in the butt to do
• 17:19
  Speaker 4: it right. They need the friend or the someone else
• 17:22
  Speaker 4: who's like, I'll do it with you. I know how
• 17:24
  Speaker 4: to set up a mic and do all the stuff.
• 17:25
  Speaker 4: You just show you just show up and do your thing.
• 17:28
  Speaker 4: I'll take care of everything else.
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: That's what really a lot, That's what we talked about.
• 17:32
  Speaker 3: That's what we talked about earlier.
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: Well, a dozen platforms per brands, so it's what platforms.
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: Every platform is different. You have to cater to those.
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: I'm getting marketing, you have to cater so I myself
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: run seven different brands on social media. That's not talking
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: Berkeley College, that's my clients myself. It's a lot. And
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: then when you post on the wrong page, it's always fun.
• 17:56
  Speaker 4: So yeah, that kid is that run them right well,
• 18:02
  Speaker 4: especially when they're when they're at the age when they
• 18:04
  Speaker 4: know the ones and they're like, yeah, do this with me.
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: Cool?
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they're like, yeah, yeah, what is it?
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: That's like yo, you know what's.
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: Not Ye'll be asking what's the latest oneander me and
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: my wife's oh, he's going to turn ten now. Just
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: the other day I went in the kitchen and he's
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: making cookies or something. But on he's filming. I'm like,
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: what are you doing? And his brothers on the other
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: side of lights and I'm tell you, guys, he's like
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: making it. We're making a.
• 18:27
  Speaker 5: YouTube thing of how to make biscuits. And I'm like,
• 18:31
  Speaker 5: nice as long as when you're yeh yeah, And that's
• 18:35
  Speaker 5: the thing. Now it's like, all right, we are you doing.
• 18:37
  Speaker 4: Something productive, something fun with your you know, with your sibling,
• 18:40
  Speaker 4: like hey, let's do this. You know, it kind of
• 18:42
  Speaker 4: creates a bond with because now they're kind of working together.
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: But the growing up in this digital age, we didn't
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: have that.
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: Right right, right, We did it.
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: We were just us.
• 18:53
  Speaker 4: We were doing it for imagination, correct, you know I
• 18:55
  Speaker 4: was doing that like all right, you're this you know
• 18:57
  Speaker 4: what I mean?
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: Well, it was hand to hand back then, Like what
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: we said, like if you wanted people to hear your stuff,
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: you had to go out there physically promoted from posters
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: to flyers. Like we talked about this in another episode.
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: You know, obviously when I was DJing and doing parties
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: back in it, I used to go cut my own flyers,
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: create the flyers and then cut them in for sure,
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: pass them out and go to the clubs and have
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: people outside and put them on cars and do that
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: where now it's like, you know, you just posting things. Well,
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: actually that got you started getting fines for that, so
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: that's the real answer.
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: I think you're just lacking. I should do some street promo.
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: I think you should. You should be you look like
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: you know, you should.
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: Get I have been saying that I'll do your link tree, but.
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: You said you're gonna do the link tree. Yeah.
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: Anyways, we'll get to link tree on LinkedIn later with
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: your club events and manage this brand now too, there's
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: a lot.
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: I have one thing I'll post on his Instagram and
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: then that because you can put it where it gets
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: sent out everywhere else.
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: That makes TikTok has been inactive. It's just gray.
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: No, he doesn't remember the past. I have to log
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: into something else that's not happening.
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: I love it. But speaking of evolution and fan engagement
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: and touring. What is touring like now versus how it
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: was because you guys were in Europe, you were in
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: all these places, So how has it evolved for you guys?
• 20:16
  Speaker 4: Well, it has It's well, you know, your body is different,
• 20:20
  Speaker 4: that's the first thing.
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, uh, it's it's you know, the way
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: we do it. We do like three or four shows
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: every weekend for like throughout the summer. So we'll do
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: like three and then we go home three and then
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: we go home three, then we go home.
• 20:34
  Speaker 4: And it's always a different venue. So it's it's not
• 20:38
  Speaker 4: the stage is always completely different, like the fans are
• 20:41
  Speaker 4: always like in a different situation.
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: Whereas back in the.
• 20:43
  Speaker 4: Day we had our stage that we toured with our
• 20:45
  Speaker 4: stuff and everything was kind of the same every night.
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: You knew where the steps were right right.
• 20:48
  Speaker 4: You know, there's a little bit more of the like,
• 20:51
  Speaker 4: oh what do we got tonight, fellas, you know what
• 20:52
  Speaker 4: I'm saying, Like every game is like you know when
• 20:54
  Speaker 4: you go play a different baseball stadium, you know, I
• 20:56
  Speaker 4: was the outfield like tonight home one of my steps.
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: You know that kind of thing, which is very cool.
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: But you know, we don't have the bus. Now.
• 21:03
  Speaker 4: You know, we just like we're getting like cars and
• 21:06
  Speaker 4: you know, go to the first city and then drive, drive,
• 21:08
  Speaker 4: drive to the next three cities. Then we leave, and
• 21:11
  Speaker 4: you know it's still the screams are still as loud.
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: Man. I mean, I don't know if that's just because.
• 21:16
  Speaker 4: Our hearing is less, but feels like the screams are
• 21:19
  Speaker 4: still as loud. So that's that. You know, there's that,
• 21:23
  Speaker 4: But it's you know what we have a problem. It's
• 21:26
  Speaker 4: like we want to do more hotel music because we're
• 21:30
  Speaker 4: doing the Pop two thousand tour. You know, were we
• 21:32
  Speaker 4: got two hours to fit all these actions.
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: To the Pop two thousand tour. Yeah. I started a
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: couple of years ago with Dream ninety degrees.
• 21:39
  Speaker 4: That was the two K tour right now, and then
• 21:42
  Speaker 4: we turned it to the Pop two thousands.
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: Sink, b B Mac, Brian Cabrera.
• 21:46
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's been it's been our baby. It's it's you know,
• 21:49
  Speaker 4: we've been doing it since twenty seventeen. We had Aaron Carter,
• 21:53
  Speaker 4: you know the first iteration of it rip and you know,
• 21:57
  Speaker 4: it's just it's it's just continued to grow and grow
• 22:00
  Speaker 4: and grow, and you know, Chris and Sink, you know,
• 22:02
  Speaker 4: he's been great. He hosts the thing and we got
• 22:05
  Speaker 4: a DJ now and it's it's been really fun to
• 22:11
  Speaker 4: see this thing grow like that we kind of started.
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: It's gotta be awesome just to be able still to
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: just do what you love.
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah, man, say it every day less man Like every
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: day I'm like, man, I get this is what I'm
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: going to do. I'm never like, oh man, I got
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: to go to work.
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: Another concert. Yeah yeah, nothing again.
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah. It never feels like that. It's crazy and and
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: you know, the day of the day it does. I
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: don't know how. I don't know what that will feel like.
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: I just don't. I don't know when when it went
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: away from COVID.
• 22:48
  Speaker 4: During COVID that was I even gave it more of that,
• 22:53
  Speaker 4: you know, because we're doing it, you know, we do
• 22:56
  Speaker 4: it full time essentially. We're touring all year round. We
• 23:00
  Speaker 4: don't just do like June and July thirty shows.
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: You know, it's all year. We have lighter months like
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: January and the world.
• 23:09
  Speaker 4: But you know, right, yeah, and we haven't even really
• 23:11
  Speaker 4: been overseas minute overseas.
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: Oh.
• 23:12
  Speaker 4: Our very first show back together in twenty thirteen or fourteen,
• 23:18
  Speaker 4: our very first show was in London under the Bridge
• 23:21
  Speaker 4: and I was it.
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: It was incredible.
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: I mean it was so you guys should get back
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: out there.
• 23:25
  Speaker 6: I know.
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we want to. We want to get back out
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: there Germany. You know now that like I said, now
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: there's social media. All these people are like, you'll come here.
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: We went to the Philippines right before COVID.
• 23:36
  Speaker 4: We were supposed to go back, but COVID we haven't
• 23:38
  Speaker 4: been back because since COVID.
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so we're still trying to get back to the Philippines.
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: But yeah, man, that's the greatest thing about music. By
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: the way, I had gotten into producing and making records
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: and then never forget. I was sending different artists tracks
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: to record on and Pitbulls a close friend of mine.
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: So I was talking to Pitbull one time. He's like, hey,
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: just remember that, don't make music for like where you live.
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: He's like, the world is a really big, right. And
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: then when I start going in djaing with iHeart and
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: going overseas, and I was in Greece and in Spain
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: and France and in all different places, you hear all
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: this other music there and it's so big and dance
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: music and all like Piople records. I'm like, this is
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: what he really means. He's like, yeah, like this music
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: is everywhere, so yeah, sure, that's so great. Like you
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: guys could go everywhere and perform, and they talk about
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: that a lot of time with artists, Like a lot
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: of artists. Sometimes people think they're not doing nothing. I'm like,
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: are you kidding me? These guys have been on tour
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: for yeah, forever, they're just not here, but they're.
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: Right, but they're everywhere else. Yeah, and every market is different,
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: the demands are different.
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: You know, it's crazy. I love we get to do
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: those casinos. Casinos are the best.
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: Well, you know there's one here now, like an official
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: one here.
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Where where is.
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: World Resorts World?
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, we performed there.
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but now they have now they have actual.
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: Now it's a full craps and it's like for them.
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: Right but everything, you know, it's the only one, the
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: only play in town.
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: So wow.
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: The casinos here off digital and slot machines and stuff
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: like that. Where queens, I don't want to say the
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: wrong area, it's definite queens.
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's another place for you to gig.
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they're and they're they're they're going big like they're
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: they're building like a concert venue there, and.
• 25:17
  Speaker 4: They're building area there, club getting in the casino.
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: I think they're all trying to So I don't this
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: one that opened now. I know NAS is part of
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: and I think there's three licenses from understanding that went
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: out in New York. But I don't have enough knowledge
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: to sit here and speak on exactly who's getting the
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: other ones, whether they're all still tied under the same umbrella,
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: or I did hear about jay Z and them trying.
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: I know they wanted to open one right here in Manhattan.
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what I so.
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: But I think that one either got denied or it's
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: not approved yet. So all right, but that's gonna be fun.
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: Opening a casino, pro right, stick with Starbucks.
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: Yes, let's stick with it. Let me try to open
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: the Starbucks for us. We're going to open up a
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: lemonade stand before I open up.
• 26:03
  Speaker 4: If you open up a Starbucks, you have to hire
• 26:06
  Speaker 4: robots to do the ordering.
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah, man, these kids don't got it no more.
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: Man, they don't got it.
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: Don't got it no more.
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: Well, you know, it depends. That's a whole nother conversation.
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: Conversation where you live really where.
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, if you live in an area where where the
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: workers that were like the people, the employees are coming
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: and going a lot, that's when it's the worst. When
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: you live in an area where the same employee has
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: been there for years, those are the best ones. You know,
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: your drinks, they don't mess up blah. Yeah, when you
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: walk in new people, that's when.
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: You're like, man, so yeah, oh yeah research that what
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: don your market research?
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: No, this is just life research, that's just life.
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: That's legit is messing up the orders. That's awareness.
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: And and you say yourself like, wish I was back,
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: this would never happen back home.
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: Oh my god. Right, well, let's get into the fun. Yes,
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: I get into into some interesting questions.
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: Okay, all right, questions.
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: All right, we all know liquid dreams all or nothing anthems. Yes,
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: let's just call it what it is. Yes, Oh to
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: the most underrated album ever.
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: Okay, I just appreciate that. Yeah, yeah, two was great.
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: The entire album is that'll be twenty five years next year.
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's after hits. But if you could go back
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: to the beginning of the trajectory, the distogography, what is
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: your favorite song man from from and it may have changed.
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: Maybe it was something different then versus now.
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: I mean, all or nothing is always going to be
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: the thing.
• 27:39
  Speaker 4: It's just it really is that good of a song, yeah,
• 27:43
  Speaker 4: that you don't ever get sick of it singing it.
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: It's the reason I have a job, you know.
• 27:49
  Speaker 4: I mean, it's just like just yeah, it's the It's
• 27:51
  Speaker 4: the only song we have that everybody sings to. Like,
• 27:55
  Speaker 4: you know, so you go to a Backstreet show, you
• 27:57
  Speaker 4: sing to the whole time you're at the fear every
• 28:00
  Speaker 4: song is a singalo like, that's not our catalog, that's
• 28:03
  Speaker 4: not how it rolls. So that moment every night is
• 28:07
  Speaker 4: that much like means that much more, I guess.
• 28:10
  Speaker 5: So.
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: But now for just listening to and hearing, you know,
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: like what I want to hear. I don't know, man,
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: I never Everybody always kind of asked that, I never.
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: Really do you listen to your stuff or you're like, no,
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: I listen.
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: To the newer stuff.
• 28:25
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and then if I want to go down, like man,
• 28:27
  Speaker 4: let me just you know hear it.
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 28:29
  Speaker 4: You know, you're like we are about to do the
• 28:32
  Speaker 4: twenty five year anniversary of the first albums, right, you know,
• 28:34
  Speaker 4: I've been like kind.
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: Of listening to it and you know, the whole album. Yeah,
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: we're doing the.
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: Whole entire album with the choreography and everything.
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: Maybe choreography, you guys will top on it.
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: Let me say something, Let me say something. You guys dance,
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: you get up there, you do choreo?
• 28:50
  Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, and we will continue to do choreo. I
• 28:55
  Speaker 4: was at home this week, uh, choreographing our new song.
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  Speaker 4: Well yeah, thinking about you.
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  Speaker 2: Know, you may need some being gay and a spandages now,
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: but I.
• 29:03
  Speaker 4: Mean, yeah, you know, this is what I'll tell anybody
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  Speaker 4: that's twenties thirties recovery. Recovery is just as important as
• 29:13
  Speaker 4: the workout.
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  Speaker 3: Don't beat yourself. Don't beat yourself.
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  Speaker 4: Up for years and years and years and then try
• 29:19
  Speaker 4: to start recovering at forty six.
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  Speaker 3: You know, I never I never like focused on recovery. Yeah,
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: it was never a thing. It was never you know,
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  Speaker 3: it's a thing now. You know, kids know it. You
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: know it's what you're gonna be athletes. You got to
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: go into recovery, you know. So that's that'd be the
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  Speaker 3: advice you.
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  Speaker 4: Give there you go, So yeah, I don't know to
• 29:41
  Speaker 4: answer your question. The newer music, like you know, lines
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  Speaker 4: of Circles.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's normally how it's like whatever the newest song
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  Speaker 1: you've done is is kind of like your favorite at
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: the time.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah for sure.
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  Speaker 4: But yeah, just because these these two albums are so
• 29:59
  Speaker 4: different than the in the first two, because it's you know,
• 30:01
  Speaker 4: it's the only four of us, you know, it's like,
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  Speaker 4: you know.
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  Speaker 3: There's more, you know, like I wrap more on these
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  Speaker 3: two then.
• 30:12
  Speaker 4: There was never that on the first one really, so
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  Speaker 4: just it's and like I said, we write and produce
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  Speaker 4: all of them now, so it's like it's way more
• 30:20
  Speaker 4: and more us.
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: So I'm just we're just closer to it.
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  Speaker 4: Not that we didn't write the stuff back in the day,
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  Speaker 4: but it's so far then we're like trying to be
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  Speaker 4: what we are now.
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  Speaker 3: So it's you know, yeah, No, we have our new
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: music is Fire.
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  Speaker 2: It's really good.
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: I love our news. I can bump it. I'm like,
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: these are good.
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: No, they're good. Yeah. We Fit Together? Is it for me?
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  Speaker 3: We fit So we have a new version of that
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  Speaker 3: now that we're going to release this year.
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: Fires is an exclusive.
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, new version of We Fit Together.
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  Speaker 4: We've been performing, we've been performing at the Pop two thousand,
• 30:54
  Speaker 4: So if you come to Pop two thousand, you'll hear it.
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  Speaker 4: And then we're going to release it later this year
• 30:58
  Speaker 4: with our new single and then and then re recording
• 31:02
  Speaker 4: of all or Nothing nice because because we've been singing
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  Speaker 4: in this new way now for the last fifteen years,
• 31:11
  Speaker 4: we're like, well, we're going to release it.
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: Let's sing it. How we sing it now?
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: Amazing? Well, thanks for the exclusive, Yeah, break an exclusive. Yeah,
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: you gotta come. We gotta do a fun time. I
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: gotta come to the next show.
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: May or may not be something in the city towards
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: the end of the.
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: Year, Okay, keep us posted.
• 31:37
  Speaker 4: Us may be in there, hopefully leaning towards the man.
• 31:43
  Speaker 4: I think I think I think it will be leaning
• 31:44
  Speaker 4: towards the may. But yeah, we could, uh you know,
• 31:48
  Speaker 4: we could get the whole squad, like I said.
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, the squad, super dope, super dope. All right,
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: so we have two.
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: More live episode.
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: We could do a live We do a live every season.
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: This season in Shaggy was our episode one, which was
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: a lot of fun.
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: Were in the headquarters.
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we could do live episode. All beans, it's gonna
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: flip out all the chairs but it's gonna be good.
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: Let's do it fun.
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it'll be fun, all right, Trev. We got to
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: ask the question. So many documentaries and things that have
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: come out the Loup Pelman story, there's been the most
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: recent one where you guys spoke about things that typically
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: you haven't spoke about in the past. Given the trajectory
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: of everything you guys went through through the music industry
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: and all of these things, would you do this all
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: over again?
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: Absolutely?
• 32:41
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean yeah, I mean my experience has been
• 32:47
  Speaker 4: what it has been has been incredible.
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: I mean, so we didn't.
• 32:52
  Speaker 4: Get paid by Blue Yeah, Alo twenty one. I had
• 32:58
  Speaker 4: the rest of my life ahead of me. I mean,
• 32:59
  Speaker 4: I'm not gonna whatever. That was the only bad thing
• 33:03
  Speaker 4: to happen from my experience, you know, the money side
• 33:07
  Speaker 4: of everything else is like, yeah, of course I would
• 33:09
  Speaker 4: love to do this again.
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: I'd love to Yeah, knowing what I know, No, of course.
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: If you could give your younger self one piece of advice,
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: what would that be?
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: M I would say that is a loaded question. There's
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: a ton there. Mm hmm, go even harder, go even harder.
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: That's a good piece of advice. I like, Yeah, you
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: want to close out with our special question. Now you
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: do it the best I've been asking all the questions
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: this episode.
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: Well, I mean you have a shirt on which hopefully
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: get signed today.
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: Wow bro, wow, okay, okay, whatever, your greatness and true
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: teach me something fashion. If you could describe what you
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: would want your legacy to be in one word, what
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: would that be?
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: Another loaded questions.
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: Trumps like Penny, we did not discuss this on our call. Yeah,
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: you can think about it, edit and post. Liam's like,
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: we're so over it's nine.
• 34:42
  Speaker 6: Oh yeah, yeah, talented, just say just talented.
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: Talented?
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: Okay, why are you looking for approval? It's your word, that's.
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: What Yeah, dude, it was talented.
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  Speaker 1: Yea, there you go.
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: That's all I got.
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: Talent? Is it going? Hey?
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: Listen, you've survived this long and we hope there's twenty
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: five more years of Old Town in the books, and
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: we look forward to all of these concerts. There's there's
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: cruises coming up, right. You have the boy band Cruise.
• 35:22
  Speaker 4: Boy band Cruise, it's sold out, boy band Creuse, sold out,
• 35:27
  Speaker 4: comedy on the tickets.
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: So the music is timeless, you know, that's just so
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: great about it. So twenty from now, you'll still be
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: really talking about it exactly.
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: You'll still be singing all or nothing as.
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: Long as people are still coming. Like people are still coming.
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: And you have the new younger fans that you know. Yeah,
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: that's the great thing about it.
• 35:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's it's quite a journey man telling you.
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: It's crazy scene. Everyone grows together.
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, so it's like, that's awesome.
• 35:54
  Speaker 4: Look where we are. They're bringing pictures from back. Yeah,
• 35:57
  Speaker 4: I'm holding this, you know, I'm holding her.
• 35:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, you know, oh my god, as an adult.
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah no, I'm holding her now, I'm holding her child.
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, oh yeah, yeah, that's you.
• 36:07
  Speaker 3: Know, it's like the generation. It's like, what's crazy? Man,
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: So blessed.
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: Amen to that.
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: Amen.
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: All right. We have BT fans for you proside, and
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: they have posters up and stuff.
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: You know, it's whatever.
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: Thank you so much. Appreciate you so much for taking
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: the time. I know you're in the middle of tour. Ye, great,
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: let's do it. Amazing all right bro?
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: All right, well, thank you guys for rocking with us
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: once again. On another episode of Teach Me Something presented
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: by Berkeley College, I am pro.
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: Style, I Am Penny Dellas Next time. Thank you for
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: tuning in, Follow us on pod dot teach Me Something.
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: Bye guys, Hey, thanks for listening. Tune in next
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  Speaker 1: Week for all new episode of Teach Me Something, brought
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