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'We Don't See Anything' w/ Jinx Lennon · You Call That Radio?

• 0:01
  Speaker A: If you give a good turn, you get a good turn. You can even leave the keys in the van. They'll be there when you return. We don't see anything out here, that's why we live a long time. If we come across anything, we don't see anything better out here. We don't see anything out here that's why we live a long time. If we come across anything, we don't see anything better than here.
• 0:31
  Speaker B: You are tuned into. You call that radio. And what turns out to be our seventh birthday. You call that radio. Seven years old today and we are celebrating, I suppose, breakfast radio. Well, it's as close to breakfast as you get on this channel. And it's a. It's an honor to bring on one of my favorite singer, songwriters, poets, the dawn of Dundalk Jinx Lennon, with the pleasure of supporting him and over and during an Irish tour last year. And he's bringing the show to Scotland with the Shamrock Show Band hitting sneaky peaks. Edinburgh on the 15th of May, the Anchor in Butte on the 16th of May, and McCool's in Glasgow on the 17th of May. And I believe he's here.
• 1:27
  Speaker C: Hello, everybody. Really happy to be here now.
• 1:31
  Speaker B: I'm happy.
• 1:31
  Speaker C: Congratulations on the seventh year.
• 1:33
  Speaker B: Yeah, seven years it's flown in and it's. We just checked that. It's actually 15 or 16 years. The first time I seen you play at the 13th note. We're just looking at that there.
• 1:44
  Speaker C: The.
• 1:45
  Speaker B: The last days of chick food and. Yeah, it's. You're going. You're playing Scotland.
• 1:51
  Speaker C: Yeah. Really looking forward to it. We booked it. We booked our. We booked our ferry yesterday.
• 1:57
  Speaker B: Oh, amazing.
• 1:58
  Speaker C: There's no turning back now.
• 1:59
  Speaker B: No, yeah, you're in. You're in. It's. This is probably the earliest show we've done for a while, man. I'm not really a morning person. I kind of wake up every day in physical pain and mental anguish. I read the news that makes me feel. I check my phone, always bad news. I respond to emails and text as much as I can. And then usually by about lunchtime as the day progresses, I enjoy life more.
• 2:31
  Speaker C: Yeah. Yeah. You have to look at. You know, when it's the sunshine and the wind, it's hard to be in a bad mood, you know? Yeah, that's. That's the way I look at it. I get good news too, of bits and bobs.
• 2:45
  Speaker B: The Scottish tour is. You. You've. You've been to Sneaky Peaks before. Well, you've been. You've been to Edinburgh In Glasgow before. So I cle.
• 2:53
  Speaker C: The Forest Cafe in Edinburgh. Another one called. It wasn't Drowsy Neighbors. It was some big. It was the. What was the Banshee Labyrinth.
• 3:04
  Speaker B: Yeah, Banshee labyrinth.
• 3:06
  Speaker C: Yeah. Yeah, that's where it was.
• 3:08
  Speaker B: And you've got the. You've got. Then you're going to the. The beautiful isle of Butte, the Anchor.
• 3:14
  Speaker C: I'm looking forward to that.
• 3:16
  Speaker B: Well, they're all. They're all very. People are quite excited from what I hear. And you've got the then of then McCool's in Glasgow. I don't know if you've been at McCool's before, but it's perfect. It's perfect for you.
• 3:29
  Speaker C: Sean McCann from the. He was with Mary Wallop or she's there this week.
• 3:35
  Speaker B: So. And this is the. This is the. This is the flyer. We're looking at the flyer for Sunday 17th of May. Shout outs to Vicar Street Social. That is a fabulous poster. And yes, Brendan the Destroyer.
• 3:49
  Speaker C: Yeah. Yeah.
• 3:53
  Speaker B: You need one. You need one for the wall. I've got my Jinx linen T shirt on.
• 3:59
  Speaker C: Oh, great. I better do a tune to start off right.
• 4:02
  Speaker B: Yeah, do it. Do a train for the people that don't know. Take it away.
• 4:05
  Speaker C: There's a song about school and all the things that were going on with the mad people that were teaching us. And the mad things would happen to you if you didn't get your geometry in the right order. This is called Barney. Morning in first class I had a witch Aztec as a double ditch. She had a few good points. I digress. Just a little wicked one from the west. I had a fuss that I loved it so. Something from 200 million years ago. She threw it on the ground says just a stone. She threw it on the ground says just a stone. I hated her more than she'll ever know.
• 4:55
  Speaker D: And Barney more than cracked her head. He smashed it off the teacher's desk. We sat in our seats amiss. You sat on the ground in a daze. But you looked at him defiantly. You thought he'll break you won't pass me. Every time I see you up the town I think of the day to break down stuff down.
• 5:25
  Speaker C: We had the head of all in for class for Steph Mikey our laugh. He come and sing in strangers in the night. He'd smile at us and made us sometime class in the A and B and those that failed their symmetry he gave them six of the best.
• 5:54
  Speaker A: Take the bed, your arms red and
• 5:57
  Speaker D: Barney Marlin cracked your head. He's part of Dead teacher's dance we sat in our seat in mist. You sat on the floor in the dance but you looked to him defiantly. You told your prick you won't pass me.
• 6:19
  Speaker C: Yeah.
• 6:19
  Speaker D: Every time I see up the town I take it a day to break themselves down. Every time I see up the town I take it the day the break let himself down.
• 6:39
  Speaker B: And there's that. I believe that's an exclusive.
• 6:41
  Speaker C: Oh, that's a new song.
• 6:42
  Speaker E: Yeah.
• 6:42
  Speaker C: I've been. Darren, you see, the wife is doing that John Praying song. Sophie's doing the Price John prime song for a wedding we're doing next week. So I thought I better try and do a bit of picking the way he does it. And then was. I was starting out picking this song he has called the Glory of True Love. And as I was doing, I was going, you know, I could probably do a bit of picking for a song I'm doing. And I sort of took it over and things went from there. So that's where I'm at this week. So I'm really happy with this new shot. So I'm there because it's all like. I'm singing the songs now that I wish I was singing 15 years ago. Because when you have children, I think it crushes your ego down much. Your ego's like a squib, and all that's left is the truth. And when you're there for the truth, then you can write the songs that makes sense. You know what I mean?
• 7:27
  Speaker B: Yeah.
• 7:28
  Speaker C: No ego anymore. The ego is smashed on the floor. It's just in a bit of. It's like a cup smashed. All the pieces are laying everywhere. So all this left is the truth, so may as well make use of it.
• 7:38
  Speaker B: And how do you find time to. Because. Because for people that don't know that, it's almost. You're averaging about an album a year of new material every year almost. And you're working full time, you're touring, you're. You're a family man. How do you find the time to just keep making the new material?
• 8:00
  Speaker C: I just.
• 8:01
  Speaker E: Just.
• 8:01
  Speaker C: You just pull it out wherever you can. You know, I think. I think because you've got less. You have less time, you sort of make use of what you have, whereas, you know, you be. I remember when I was living with Sophie, we were just in the house and it's so much time, I couldn't write a song. Now I'm writing the average one or two a day. So for that, you know, it's all. It's all. It's all swings around the rest as we say over here. Like it's just like take the game with the bad. So I'm happy like, you know, like it's, it's just, it's just, it's just a mad existence now.
• 8:33
  Speaker B: Yeah.
• 8:35
  Speaker C: At 12 o' clock and that'll be for the rest of the day. So this is like an oasis. Couple of hours, solemn peace, talk to you and play a few songs.
• 8:46
  Speaker B: And then you said it turns into Jurassic Park.
• 8:49
  Speaker C: Jurassic Park. Hold on. Yeah.
• 8:55
  Speaker B: So when you're, when you've got that many songs, how do you decide what you're going to play when you're, when you're doing your live sets? Because obviously when, when we were with you in Ireland, we seen. Do you know what have you, have you pre rehearsed what you're going to do or do you just go with vibes?
• 9:12
  Speaker C: Oh, no, no, no. I, I write the set every night. It's a different set. Like I just, like I'll be getting myself. I'm playing this week in, in Dundalk, in the, in the town center on Saturday. Now I got my set ready tomorrow and sometimes I look and I go, geez, I haven't played that song in a long time. And there's. You know what's great is that it, there's, there's loads of choose from and then there's the new one. So there'll always be one or two new ones in it. So the set lists are always different. And what's great about that is I'm doing an exhibition next year that's going to be around the set lists because I've kept all my set lists from the first gig in the spirit store here in 2000. Wow. 26 years of set list. So I want to get them all on and I'm just gonna. I have loads of tapes of me just rehearsing, just going some of its crap and just trying to get the structure of songs going. And I'm gonna have that in the background when I exhibit all these. Now luckily I have a good lad. He's John Connolly. He's doing. He's the art mind, he's the visual art mind. So he's gonna direct me to this, take all my stuff in and just put some sort of a organization.
• 10:23
  Speaker B: That's a brilliant idea, Matt. Well done for keeping all your settlers.
• 10:27
  Speaker C: Yeah. Because people have come to you for years. Even, even years ago I'd say, no, no, I'm keeping all of them because I sort of wasn't sure what I was going to do with them, but I knew that they do something with them in the future and I think it's coming to that time now.
• 10:39
  Speaker B: That's amazing. And when you're. So when you're playing an old song, does it feel like you're playing a new song? A song you've not played in years? Yeah, yeah.
• 10:49
  Speaker C: It's mad because the girl who used to sing with me, Paula Flynn, she was up in Belfast with me last week and she says what songs are going to sing when you have a one called Some Bridge Train, which I haven't played since we. Somewhere. She, we, myself and her stop singing in 2010. So we sort of pulled it out and I was still well back in. Plugged in straight away, you know, it was like. It was like a total new song because we hadn't done it for a while.
• 11:13
  Speaker B: Yeah. Shouts to Paula. I met Paula at the. The Spirit Store.
• 11:17
  Speaker E: Yeah.
• 11:18
  Speaker B: And obviously she sings on one of my favorite tunes, you Must Forgive the Cunts. Yeah, I don't think you played that for a while.
• 11:29
  Speaker C: Forgive the Clints. Yeah, I, I, you, I. And you know, if. Usually what happens is I take a set list and by the time I'm sort of halfway through and the same man says that's the end of the show, I'm going, jesus.
• 11:41
  Speaker E: Is that right?
• 11:42
  Speaker C: So I'm only half the gut on the stage. So if someone asks for forgive to consult, I'll sing it, no problem. Like, you know, because. Because it is sort of. It's a, it's a. It's a standard of the show, you
• 11:53
  Speaker B: know, it's an anthem. It's an anthem.
• 11:57
  Speaker C: Well, hopefully people heard that affects people. Like people come up to me and say, oh, yeah, that got me through some times and stuff. And it's humbling. Yeah, it's humbling because that's what I've written was just written when you're just at the end of it when you're walking in shitty jobs in the factory and you're going, Jesus Christ. Like I'm. I'm nearly 30 now and I'm doing this crap now was the right ness in life they could be doing instead of this, you know.
• 12:20
  Speaker B: Yeah.
• 12:20
  Speaker C: So despair, it's a, it's a hell of.
• 12:23
  Speaker B: Despair is a hell of despair. But it's, it's beautiful as well. There's something, something therapeutic about it and because when you feel, when you. It's. It's the kind of song I'd fit on, put on if, if I was feeling angry or pissed off at somebody. There's just something beautiful about it. It's cathartic. I think the word is cathartic, Jude,
• 12:42
  Speaker C: for sort of a rough word, you know what I mean?
• 12:49
  Speaker B: Aged. The. To describe your music, which is you. You've actually got your own tag, which is border schizo. Folk punk.
• 12:59
  Speaker C: Yeah.
• 12:59
  Speaker B: Do you want to explain that? A little bit of that for people that don't know?
• 13:02
  Speaker C: Well, it's sort of. It sort of runs parallel to say, like folk music and that. Like, there'll be a lot of inspiration for folk music. How are we going to explain this? It's just basically sort of owning where you come from. Like, I come from the border, so I'm sort of planting my flag on the border and what happens there. And the sort of people. When you get sort of border people, their minds are sort of schizo in that they're seeing what's happening above the border, below the border, on the border. So they're seeing sort of the companion remains than someone who's just living in a city, say Dublin or London or somewhere. The combine remains under. Maybe open, maybe more tolerant. I find that they're more tolerant than that sort of the tornado to things. As long as people aren't. As long as people aren't denying them that sort of torn a blind day to what's going on. As long as nobody's annoying their ass, you know, like there's more living that live with border people, but it's just the mad things that happen when you're a kid and stuff and you see. And it does really affect you. And that's the sort of stuff I'm sort of singing about in the songs. So it sort of runs in parallel with folk music in that it's all about the stories at the end of it. And I think the stories are very important in that they're the. They're the whole crux of it. They're the whole. They're the whole, you know, the core of it. So it's all like folk music, but it's my own sort of strand of folk music, if you like. Because to be years of development on the ground. And a lot of Scottish bands actually, too, and American bands and punk bands and all the different strands of folk music. And maybe a little bit of soul.
• 14:46
  Speaker B: And the box for people that don't know. Dundalk's. Was it eight miles from the border?
• 14:51
  Speaker C: It's. Yeah, it's around eight miles from the border. Yeah, maybe.
• 14:55
  Speaker B: And it's. It's a beautiful place in the border. And where was it, what was the name of the place just next to Dundalk that we stayed.
• 15:03
  Speaker C: Oh, caring for the Viking city.
• 15:06
  Speaker B: Yeah, that was beautiful.
• 15:07
  Speaker E: Yeah.
• 15:08
  Speaker C: And it's crazy because, you know when you go to the Shetlands and stuff. What's the big town in the Shetlands?
• 15:14
  Speaker B: I've never been to the Shetlands, I
• 15:16
  Speaker C: can tell you because it's the same thing as the Viking. Even the way the streets are sort of lay there. They're sort of the Wokness land and there's sort of the little streets. Yeah, yeah. It's really Colin Ford in the way it's lay there. So you're sort of a home walking. This can be carnival. And it's funny the way the views sort of go as well because the. There's always a sort of a. The way of the fjords and the. The big. The sort of the high mountains around it, you know, so it's very similar.
• 15:47
  Speaker B: I mean you said that the. You. The. The border people are more tolerant. They don't see anything. So you've got a new song, this. We don't see anything.
• 15:57
  Speaker C: We don't see anything out there. Yeah, yeah.
• 16:02
  Speaker B: Is that relevant to what you're saying?
• 16:05
  Speaker C: Yeah, it's all like. Well, that song was written about somebody who actually. He was sort of an enemy of mine. But yeah, he was again was living at the border and he was. He was walking his dog and he was sort of coming down the field and the bs. There'd be a lot of IRA people there to be getting rid of the waste oil and stuff and they might come across a bag of guns laying the field or somewhere and you know, the locals, they would walk on personal remarks about it, you know, turn the blind day. We see nothing here. And then maybe or ignoring what's going on, they might go to. To be able to leave the keys in the van and nobody robbed them, of course, because there was all eyes peeping from the hedges, you see. And sometimes to go back to Raan and to find a nice big bag of apples, in other words, yes, we know you can see us, we can see you, but you're torn up l day. So there you go, big bag of apples. Now you know you're a good one. This guy was telling me the story about him walking the dog and stuff and of the things that happened and as he was talking to me, I'm going, jesus, this is a song. Every bit he's talking to me and my head's like wheeling up trying to store the whole Deal he's giving me. So when he walked away, I said, there's a song now. And I was running for. I was running for the. The. The microphone in. In the phone and the notebook to. And that happens sometimes.
• 17:35
  Speaker E: It's great when it happens because, you
• 17:36
  Speaker C: know, you're talking, then people think you're. You're trying to be funny with them, but. But you're not. You're trying to run to get the notebook out. So you keep.
• 17:45
  Speaker B: They think you're both of them, but you're actually so interested that you need to go and steal their ideas.
• 17:50
  Speaker C: Yeah. You know, it's.
• 17:51
  Speaker E: It's smart, it's great.
• 17:54
  Speaker B: Do you want to do. So we'll pick a song to give us another tune.
• 17:58
  Speaker C: Can I just do it? Can I just do one of my. Just. With no instrumentation. So this is what. This is one of the railway lines, because they love walking the railway lines. Right. This is called Silver Parallel Lines. It's just about sort of walking the railway lanes and the beauty of it.
• 18:15
  Speaker E: We are not put here to be liked. We are here to be bright light. Several parallel lines ease my mind for a while. You seem to go on forever and that suits me fine. At the castle down bridge there's too many briars. I could make a passage with a pair of pliers.
• 18:36
  Speaker C: I just want to go where I
• 18:37
  Speaker E: can walk alone over sleepers and allies and big black stones. We are not put here to be liked. We are here to be bright light. Silver power lines is my mind for a while. You seem to go on forever and that suits me fine. If I see a train coming I'll jump down fast. I will crouch like a hare until it's past. I can see through the carriages Faces frozen in time suspended animation with big glassy eyes behind me the town looks far away and the lights come on like a fairy tale for all I know there could be riots in the streets. I'm just here for peace and for self belief. We are not put here to be light, we are here to be bright. Lies silver power lines is my mind for a while. You seem to go on forever and that suits me fine. At the Jonesboro bridge I will climb down take the old Newry road back into town. Orange street lamps glow. But to put on a bad show in the railway line Darkness, imagination grows we are not but here to be light. We are here to be bright light Silver power lines EAS my mind for a while. We seem to go on forever and that suits me fine.
• 20:09
  Speaker C: Where are you going?
• 20:10
  Speaker B: I'm Here. I'm here. I just giving you the full screen when you're performing Amaz.
• 20:17
  Speaker C: That's about walking the railway lines, which I love to do.
• 20:21
  Speaker B: Old. Old railway lines, of course.
• 20:23
  Speaker C: No electric.
• 20:26
  Speaker B: They're electrified.
• 20:28
  Speaker C: They're not really electrified, no. They're still sort of like some New York range. But it's just the journeys on the main lanes. Walking up for a few miles and then jumping off the bridge again, you know, it's the only place where you can sort of walk. And it's. If you're sort of walking through a time that everyone sort of stops, that everything seems the same. That it was maybe 40 years ago, just walking. It's almost walking into a. A time step or another dimension or even through some sort of a time portal back to time, you know. Well, there's a lot of lanes. I just love to.
• 21:04
  Speaker B: Well, hopefully. Hopefully when you're in the legendary Huey can maybe show you the old. It was a train line, really, a tram line in Butte. They went right through the city or right through the town. It's not a city, so it's an island. But it was just. Is an old one that you can. Apparently. I think most of it's been taken away, but you can still. You can still see where it was and you can. It cuts right through the. The middle.
• 21:27
  Speaker C: Yeah, yeah. To see that. All right.
• 21:31
  Speaker B: Well, the is. Is stunning. So it's great that you're. You're gonna. You're gonna get there because it's islands, man.
• 21:38
  Speaker C: I love. I love islands.
• 21:40
  Speaker B: It's. It's. It's so close to Glasgow. It's so close to Glasgow as well. So, you know, you'll be better. You'll be.
• 21:44
  Speaker C: You'll do.
• 21:45
  Speaker B: Be. And then you'll be away at me. And within two hours. M. That includes the ferry, so. But goodbye trip and you're taking the Shamrock Show Band with you. So can we talk a little bit about them and.
• 21:57
  Speaker E: Oh, the Shamrock sh.
• 21:58
  Speaker C: Are really coming out in their own mind.
• 22:00
  Speaker E: They're fantastic.
• 22:02
  Speaker C: Yeah, yeah, They're. They're. They're sort of a psychedelic country band. But there's. There's a real punk fan through them, you know. And like there's Connor. He plays a fiddle and he's a singer and he sort of. I sort of look on him as a sort of a county man and grand parsons. And then Jamie's. Jamie. So musically he's just. He's like the Phil Spectre behind the operations and he's got all the. They're really like myself They're. They're really sort of rooted in place and Border stuff. Like he. Like Jamie from Casablane. So a lot of stuff that's going on, the samples and stuff, the people around that area. And then Joel, he's from Donegal, he plays the. He plays the pedal steel and it's just beautiful. It just. It's just got. He's got that real old natural thing, you know, like you're hearing George Jones and all those Tommy Winner records. I'm just listening and it's. I'm just. This is like. This is like the grand old opera.
• 23:03
  Speaker B: Yek.
• 23:04
  Speaker C: He's playing the stuff, but it's got that sort of 60s, 70s, sort of. You can hear all the classic records. He's got that. And they've really come on like. And I saw them first, so I think they'll go down the storm. I'd love to see them really doing well, you know, taking off. Yeah.
• 23:20
  Speaker B: Am I right in saying they're. They're back in Europe during your set as well?
• 23:23
  Speaker C: Yeah. Well. Well, Jamie's dad, Jamie's. He's. He's part of the band he play with as well. Jamie. Jimmy jumps between the two bands and then he's got it. He's running the studio in Belfast and he's got a different projects going on, you know, so he's. He's flat out the whole time.
• 23:41
  Speaker B: You said the Grand Old Opry. Did you know that Glasgow's got a Grand Old Opry?
• 23:45
  Speaker C: No.
• 23:46
  Speaker B: So they. Somebody went to. Is it Nashville?
• 23:49
  Speaker C: Yeah.
• 23:50
  Speaker B: Yeah. So somebody for Glasgow went to Nashville in the 60s to get permission to open a grand old opera in Glasgow. And it's. It's a. It's a. It's a great night. It's a great night.
• 24:02
  Speaker C: Still going, is it?
• 24:03
  Speaker B: Still going? There was a little bit of controversy about a year ago or two years ago where they had to take the Confederate flag down and. But do you know, the thing is,
• 24:16
  Speaker C: who is the Confederate flag up?
• 24:17
  Speaker B: The Grand Old Opry. But just to give it a bit of context.
• 24:21
  Speaker C: Yeah.
• 24:22
  Speaker B: They dress up as cowboys. That. I mean, the. It's not. I don't. I don't. I think it's. The only context with a Confederate flag is maybe okay. Maybe okay. Because these guys are dressed up head to toes. Cowboys.
• 24:37
  Speaker C: That's part of it in the Irish country scene that it's all cowboys and. And cowgirls.
• 24:43
  Speaker B: And they have this. They have the shooting. The shoot offs. I don't know exactly how they do it, but they turn around and they Have a jewel and they shoot and you hear the glass smashing. So I don't know how. It can't be real guns.
• 24:59
  Speaker C: There's plenty of glass of smashing with all the drunkenness and the Irish country scene anyway, so it sort of pans out probably all the same. But I love it.
• 25:07
  Speaker E: It's. It's crazy.
• 25:08
  Speaker C: The scene over here, like, the. The guys, like, there's a guy called. And they've all sort of names, like their second names are Mike Danvo, right. So they're all like American states or towns. So Mike Denver has a cruise ship and it's four grand a pop and it'll be so late. I'm just gonna. I don't know where to go around. To go around the Mediterranean. But Mike Denver's playing every night. The same set every night. They love it. I mean, seven nights of Mike Danner. And he has all the same songs, like, you know, and they all sing the same songs, all the country and western lads and on the scene, you know. Yeah, like that. There was actually a funny story. There was a. When I walked in the hospital, there was a. There was a man that was in, and he was a patient and he'd 100 CDs of Irish country and western music. And he used to play it the whole day, you know. And the funny thing about it, all the CDs with the same. With different people would sing the same songs like Stop the World and Let Me Off. And so it was very funny. There was a nurse there and she was wearing sort of horn room glasses with us, a sort of tie behind us around her ears. And she's bent down and she's doing her notes and this music is playing in the background. And next minute she stopped and she goes, is anyone else listening to that?
• 26:31
  Speaker E: And that was it.
• 26:32
  Speaker C: That sort of broke the spell, you know.
• 26:34
  Speaker E: Is anyone else listen to that? And that was it.
• 26:39
  Speaker C: And your mind never played anyway. That was. That was the end of the country in Western. He sort of got the hint off of that, you know. I didn't mind it. Like, it was. It was just. He was keeping them happy. But no one was saying no. Like we're just everyone else. Yeah.
• 26:57
  Speaker B: I'll read some comments. Thanks to everyone tuning in. And this is silly. Is the grand old Operator the sitting for that Jesse Buckley film about the country singer? I'm not sure. Not sure. But it's. It's a good night and it's a cheap night. And it's. It's not changed one bit since. Well, I wasn't there in the 60s obviously but it feels like you're still in the 60s and you still get. Occasionally bands like Mogwai and stuff will play it just. Oh yeah, just, just, just because it's an interesting spot to play. Hu Reed says he's happy to show Jinx the old tram line which extended from Rossi to the other side of the island to Etric Bay. So there you go. I was correct Sh Hu's actually got a. A a 20 episode documentary called Beautiful Be and 20 episodes in YouTube you can watch for free. So if you want to familiarize yourself but you can tell you I think off the top of my head I think it's three. Hugh will correct me since he's tuned in but I think it's three miles wide and 20 miles, 19 miles round but you can correct me. I'm not sure. Mary's watching on the big telly shout outs to Mary. Iona says that's a belt or I caught that drift. And Ronan says Jinx I know art isn't a competition for listening and ranking but Jinx for me is the truest and bravest music artist in Ireland. Amazing inspiration.
• 28:29
  Speaker C: Thank you.
• 28:30
  Speaker B: Shouts to running.
• 28:31
  Speaker E: Thank you man.
• 28:37
  Speaker C: Let's call it points. There's about a fella that was during COVID he we saw the loss for company because the pub was sort of closed and so he started going on the Internet and he was looking for friends but all he could find there was a far right grips and he said to himself you know like I don't believe in their ideology but sure they must want to have a few pints at the end of the night so he'd go to all the meetings and. But all he wanted to do is drink his pints and talk about football.
• 29:09
  Speaker E: Jimmy was lost during COVID he was feeling sad and lonely and all his mates down in the pub were all gone cause the pub was close up and he didn't like wearing the mask cause really it was too much to ask. But he was not a bigot neither. He was a lost and lonely spider. Jimmy's wanted Jimmy no he didn't have far right. He just wanted someone to go in for a pint. But the far right was all he could see. Every time daddy want him to FB he go to the meetings the meetings were a bore. Make iron great again. He heard it before he couldn't wish to the end of the night cause after the meeting they go away for a pint
• 30:04
  Speaker C: points it's your shape points. Your sin points.
• 30:07
  Speaker E: Remigration points.
• 30:09
  Speaker C: Big Aggravation points. Great replacement point.
• 30:12
  Speaker D: Is that right?
• 30:13
  Speaker C: Pints. Tell me more about it. Pints over a pint.
• 30:17
  Speaker E: The meeting was down in the basement. They were talking about a great replacement. The meeting was led by a teacher. He said, nigel Farage is my mentor. But Jimmy just thought about Bulmers. And he made these big bored faces because he had no real head for the rest. He just want to talk about soccer rank and wasted.
• 30:43
  Speaker D: Jimmy had no heed in the far age.
• 30:45
  Speaker E: He just wanted someone to go out for a pint. But the far right was all he could see. Every time he went on to fb, he'd go to the meetings. The meetings were a bore. Talk about Hitler. He heard it before. He couldn't wish till the end of the night.
• 31:09
  Speaker C: Points. It's your shame.
• 31:11
  Speaker E: Points.
• 31:11
  Speaker C: It's your shame Points. You were saying? Point. Three migration points.
• 31:16
  Speaker E: Big invasion points. Great replacement points.
• 31:19
  Speaker D: Is that right?
• 31:20
  Speaker E: Points.
• 31:20
  Speaker C: Tell me more about it. Points. Over a pint.
• 31:23
  Speaker E: Hey, Jimmy, are we gonna keep the white blood pure?
• 31:27
  Speaker C: Sure. Yeah. Ha ha. I know you.
• 31:33
  Speaker E: You're just taking the pints.
• 31:36
  Speaker C: Can I ask you a question? Yes.
• 31:37
  Speaker D: Jimmy.
• 31:39
  Speaker C: See that pint of polymers over there? What about it? It's nearly empty. Can I get a great replacement? Oh, you're very funny.
• 31:50
  Speaker E: You're very funny, aren't you? Just remember on Cambodia, all the ports and comedians were poured.
• 31:58
  Speaker C: Yeah. You tell me something. Can you name four of them?
• 32:11
  Speaker B: Magic. And I've heard you play that one before and it's quite relevant just now.
• 32:19
  Speaker C: We.
• 32:20
  Speaker B: There's a lot of the make island great Again stuff happening.
• 32:24
  Speaker C: Yeah.
• 32:24
  Speaker B: Even though that was written a while ago where your Irish fuel pro fuel protests, it's been hijacked by the right wing.
• 32:31
  Speaker C: Yeah.
• 32:32
  Speaker B: Could you give people a bit of background to that for. Because it was kind of a bit of a blackout here, I think probably intentionally so that all our farmers and lorry drivers didn't follow the lead.
• 32:43
  Speaker C: Yeah. But you see, the thing is there's a lot of people with legitimate concerns and that's all right. And they're there. But there's also the ones the hangers on, the grifters sort of come in and a lot of that'll be sort of pulled in from the likes of Tommy Robinson. He'd have his people over there trying to make chaos. And, you know, people know it's. It's all about the grift. It's all about making a few quid. It's all about snake oil. It's all about getting paid by the massive companies who Want to see people, the little ants banging each other's heads off while they're raking in the money. And that's really what it's all about. And most people sort of know that. And there's, there's people who are farmers and stuff like that. They are, they're coming up and that they have legitimate concerns about not having money for fertilizer and for diesel and trying to make ends meet. But anything like that at all, it didn't matter. The farmers are only gross for the mill. No, they're only quest for the mill. They're only, they're only a thing to give the head of all this excuse to get stuck in and cause chaos. Because all those people, that's, that's the only thing you can do. They can't make change. They can't make things positive. They can only cause chaos. And that's what they're for because they're grifters and that's all they are and that's all they'll ever be. So them, as far as I'm concerned, you know.
• 34:09
  Speaker B: Absolutely. And it's, it seems to me, well, from an outside perspective, it seems that the, the billionaire pipeline that, that encourages people at Tommy Robinson, these guys are getting paid to cause chaos because like you said, they want the ants fighting each other so that they can take all the money. And I think that there was something nearly very special happened because there is a cost of living crisis and it's not just the working class, it's now affecting the middle classes and, and everybody's sort of starting to feel the pinch or abject poverty.
• 34:44
  Speaker C: Yeah, there's some great, some over, over, over. Like in Scotland, England, people are standing up and saying, no, that's not us. And it's great to see that There was a few, there was a few incidents there lately where there was the, the far right people try to hijack different things and people were having none of it. It's great to see it.
• 35:03
  Speaker B: But then straight away, what, what it's doing is by the, by the far right even turning up. Then the conversation, it changes from the cost of living crisis to people wanting to always speak about immigration or gender or another or one of the many culture wars that they might want to throw in.
• 35:20
  Speaker C: The other side of it is as well is like I was in the pub the other night and someone stars and the conversation was, it just ended up that I'm giving it a bit immigrants. And so we're sort of trying to say, well, you know, they can be an Irish person. We've landed with so much immigration and we came with our hats on our hands to different places in the world and we were sort of taken in. And I always think about that because that's. That's legitimate. But also, as well as a good friend of mine, he's a social worker, people will have to start talking to each other more because it's not good enough to sort of stand back and look at somebody like they've got two heads because they're after coming out with something that is not acceptable to your ears. There just needs to be more dialogue because it suits the powers that be, the people at each other the whole time. People need to talk. Dialogue is needed because that's the only way we're going to get out of this, you know, and it's. It's not just good enough to sort of stand back and say, right, I don't like him because he's got. Got all these views, which happens. You have to talk to the people because that's the only way you're going to get true to them is by talking to them, you know, and not putting on a big drama or a melodrama or an opera out of it. You really have to just say, well, that's not right. I don't believe in that. This is what I think. You have to sort of say that without making a big drama out of it, really, because they've been involved in protests where you. For the far right, from one side of the road and like with legs of myself who would sort of see things happen to be a gang of people coming down, but never. They're just so like. It's like the life of brain and. And it's cartoonish to two sides of roads. People just shouting slogans each other and at the end of it, there's. It's good you. You've stood your ground, but nobody's got true to each other. You know,
• 37:11
  Speaker B: the hate agents le the last.
• 37:17
  Speaker C: I don't know all the answers, but I'm thinking more and more that people just need to talk to each other a bit more. You know,
• 37:24
  Speaker B: the Last Isle of Hope.
• 37:27
  Speaker C: Yeah.
• 37:29
  Speaker B: Your most recent album.
• 37:31
  Speaker C: That's. That's me at this protest. Anyway, there was a convent and it was supposed to be earmarked. It was an old sort of Sisters of Mercy convent and it was earmarked for Syrian refugees. So you got all these people from Dublin who were involved with the lake or just all the far away people in Dublin come up to them. Dog, they wouldn't have Stood in dock, they wouldn't probably know where it is in the map. But because there was something they could get involved with, they could sort of stand out and start shouting about they arrived up in their town. So I had to get up there and say, right, we're not all like that. Like, you know, where are you coming from? And we know, right, well, is it just down here to cause chaos? And that's what that picture is. That's the comment. Anyway, it all panned out well in the end, so. But we had to make a stand for it, you know, I mean, like, we can't. We can't have these people coming down and claiming all grand, you know, and telling us what we are playing. The flags. They're after getting a big box of flags from Amazon. Very nice, clean, shiny flags. You know, there is.
• 38:35
  Speaker B: Do you think it's all the flag. The flag makers are causing the chaos?
• 38:40
  Speaker C: I think the flag makers are making a lot of money. That's what I think. Yeah, it's. It's getting. It's getting ridiculous. It's getting really cartoonish where I live. You know, there's one particular state in N do and there's more flags in it than you see in Belfast. Just one street. Because the flags are on every single lamp on. On every single pole. Like in this, the street, they could say, okay, yeah, we know, we know we're in Ireland. You don't have to show us. Like, we can see it. Yeah, yeah, that's right. You know, it's unbelievable. It just looks crazy. You know, there was a.
• 39:16
  Speaker B: It was very briefly, the Scottish flag started going up. It was a raise the flags or something. It's the same thing.
• 39:23
  Speaker E: Yeah.
• 39:24
  Speaker B: It didn't really take off here as much, but I think that's because the people, the. I think. Well, this is just my opinion, but there's. They would. The people that were putting up the Scotland flags would rather have a butcher's apron on up. So as a result, I don't think it really took off. And then you had places like Govern Hell, which is very multicultural. They had a half Scotland, half Palestine flag. Yeah, but it's just. It just gets a bit flaggy after a while.
• 39:54
  Speaker C: Yeah, it does. So can we talk about the gigs? Yeah, I. I won't have that much time. I have to go back to Jurassic park soon enough. What time is it?
• 40:08
  Speaker B: We're. We're at 20 to 12.
• 40:10
  Speaker C: Okay. Yeah, I know. I'm looking forward to the tour and, like, we're starting in Edinburgh in Sneaky Pete's. On the 15th of May and so we'll have the Shamrock Show Band there. That'll be the first port of call. And then really looking, looking forward to coming back to Edinburgh. Stinky Pete's supposed to be a great venue.
• 40:32
  Speaker B: It's a brilliant venue.
• 40:34
  Speaker C: Yeah. And the staff seems to be great and. And the next nation be the. Your island. What does that mean?
• 40:42
  Speaker B: Well, I. I stay in the. I live in Verkiski, but. Yeah, yeah, but I know but. Well. And purity's just confirmed. That butte is 15 miles long and four miles wide.
• 40:54
  Speaker C: Oh man, I thought it was only a couple of miles. That's great. There's roads all over it too. It sounds like they are on islands.
• 41:02
  Speaker B: Yeah, it's. It's kind of like. Yeah, there's similarities. I would say that Butte feels more like. Because it's actually got a town. It's got a town center while Aaron doesn't really have that. So you've got your town center and then the rest of it's quite isolated.
• 41:17
  Speaker C: Yeah, I'm talking about the Iron Islands and Ireland. We've got Aaron Islands as well.
• 41:21
  Speaker B: Oh sorry. I think we're talking about Aaron.
• 41:23
  Speaker C: I know, I know, I know. There's an isle of Iron. Yeah. They've got three. Three islands in. In. Off. Off the coast of Clare. So we. We're really looking forward to that because we love playing because one of my favorite place to play islands, we played Ratlan island which is off the coast of Anam years ago and that. That was one of my favorite festivals ever. It was just absolutely crazy. Even the fishermen were off the heights. Like it was just mad. And so we're looking for any excuse to play. Evans is great and, and. And then that's the 16th and then McCull's is the Sunday night. So for helping the organize the gigs is great. Thanks. Thanks a lot.
• 42:03
  Speaker B: No, no worries at all man. It's a pleasure and shouts to Vicker Street Social for this phenomenal poster and putting it all together and you know Josh and Van are doing. Doing great work at McCull's. It's a great. It's a great pub. It's. You know, it's a. It's. They'll show the football's on. They'll show the football. I mean obviously it's a kind of sort of Celtic pub for the football but it's a. It's more of a music pub. It's an underground music pub. They have DJs on to lay. They've just got a really good Venue. It's a. It's a really. It's really well rigged up. So I think that you're. You're going to love me, man. So yeah, looking forward to it. So anyone tuned in? Pick, pick, pick one.
• 42:42
  Speaker C: Edinburgh play Scotland. We're hyped up to play. We're just really looking forward to it.
• 42:48
  Speaker B: It'll be great, man. It's going to be great. And I'm. I'm excited to see the Shamrock Show Band for the first time as well.
• 42:53
  Speaker C: Yeah, the Shamrock Showband are excellent.
• 42:55
  Speaker B: So could you. Have you got enough time to give us a song to. To play us out then?
• 42:59
  Speaker C: Yeah, just. I going to.
• 43:02
  Speaker E: Just.
• 43:03
  Speaker C: Just singing.
• 43:04
  Speaker B: Just.
• 43:04
  Speaker C: No. So this is called X and McG. And I don't know if it's going to be in the new album, but it's just about a neighbor of mine when I was a kid and this girl used to mind me and she used to be in excruciating pain because she's very bad eczema. And it just sort of came into my head there last. A couple weeks ago and I. I sort of wrote a song but it's called Eczema Girl. The patches and what he used. What I used to do was. I know what happened when I was younger people with stuff like eczema. I used to be sitting there and they'd be. They'd be sitting in front of me and I'd start picking the scabs off their legs and their arms and stuff. And the same. My sister. My sister had bumps when she was about 6 and her face, her chin come out in big bubbles. And I used to be little bass or it was be trying to pop the bubbles and my mother used to go. She's just go ballistic like, you know. And so this is called back to my girl.
• 43:55
  Speaker E: The patches have flared up again along your face and hands. Red blotches on your knees again.
• 44:06
  Speaker C: I can see them when you stand.
• 44:09
  Speaker E: You were sat next door to mind me. It was something you didn't want to do. But don't take it all out of me.
• 44:19
  Speaker C: Cause I'm not afraid of you.
• 44:21
  Speaker E: Eczema girl.
• 44:23
  Speaker C: I picked a hard lumps on your
• 44:25
  Speaker E: knees you screamed in pain, you start to bleed.
• 44:29
  Speaker C: I promise I won't do that again.
• 44:31
  Speaker E: Eczema girl.
• 44:34
  Speaker C: I picked the hard lumps on your knees.
• 44:36
  Speaker E: You screamed in pain, you start to bleed.
• 44:39
  Speaker C: I promise I won't do that again.
• 44:43
  Speaker E: The gypsy told your mother things at the time she did not believe and you burnt in the family.
• 44:53
  Speaker C: She laughed and said that Cannot be.
• 44:56
  Speaker E: And now your little sister shoe there's no ring on her finger too. And your mother's life will soon be
• 45:05
  Speaker C: true and you'll be on your own again. Eczema girl I picked the hard lumps on your knees.
• 45:11
  Speaker E: You screamed in pain, you started to
• 45:15
  Speaker C: bleed I promise I won't to die again.
• 45:18
  Speaker E: You told me not to chase the dog round the back rooms. I see my eyes from your garden it's a different view and you've got nicer biscuits Think I'll steal a few
• 45:31
  Speaker C: to take back home with me.
• 45:34
  Speaker E: The patches have flared up again upon your face and hands. Red blotches on your knees again I
• 45:44
  Speaker C: can see them when you stand.
• 45:46
  Speaker E: I was sent next door so you could mind me. Something you did not want to do. But don't take it all out of
• 45:55
  Speaker C: me because I'm not afraid of you. Eczema girl I picked a hard lumps on your knees, you screamed in pain,
• 46:03
  Speaker E: you start to bleed. I promise I won't do that again. Promise I won't do that again. I promise I won't do that again.
• 46:13
  Speaker B: Jinx Lennon and Live. You will be doing a very different type of set. If for people that aren't aware, you are going to be. You're bringing the, the, the electronic sound with you. Oh, yeah.
• 46:28
  Speaker C: But come here. I, I love this going on as well, all the acoustic stuff. So there'll be a mixture of it.
• 46:34
  Speaker B: Yes.
• 46:34
  Speaker C: Jumping in with the band. And then I always do two or
• 46:37
  Speaker B: three songs, full band. And then what is the setup for the, the electronic setup? You get. You've got some sense or.
• 46:44
  Speaker C: No, I, I, I just got. It's very simple. I've just got a sampler and then Jamie's got his own keys as well and he plays bass, so there's a lot of sounds coming on. But then we put it right back and do some acoustic things. So you've got the best of both worlds. You've got the real mad sort of driving punk stuff, you've got the sort of punk folk stuff and then you've got the, the, the acapella and acoustic guitar. So really looking forward to it. It'll be nice to see how it goes down. It's been a while since the last time was over and they get that Room two was actually good in Glasgow. I think that people were getting the stuff that night.
• 47:22
  Speaker B: Yeah. I'll probably link in the comments for people to check out, because we actually filmed the full set from Room two and, yeah, people, people loved it and I think the last Time you were in Glasgow was that the Barwans were playing with your. Your neighbors, the. The Mary.
• 47:38
  Speaker C: That was great. The Barlands. It was really nice to play the Barons. Been such a legendary place.
• 47:44
  Speaker B: Best venue in the world. Best venue in the world. Yeah. Well, thank you, Jinx, man. It's been great. I cannot wait. I will hopefully see you. If not Edinburgh, then Butte and Glasgow.
• 47:57
  Speaker C: Edinburgh the 15th May be 16th and Glasgow McK on that 17 and Edinburgh Sneaky Pizza 15. Thank you very much, Mark.
• 48:08
  Speaker B: No worries, mate. See you soon. Bye. Jinx Lennon. Check out his tunes on. There is. There is a select. There's some select songs on Spotify, but we encourage you to go to Digging Spotify and go straight to Band Camp, where you can see an incredible collection oftunes@jinxlearning.bandcamp.com Like I said, he's averaging an album almost every year, so there's a lot to delve into. If you've liked what you've heard tonight, Epimu says could never replace genuine artistry. Cheers and thanks for tuning in. Thanks everyone for tuning in. It's. You call that radio. 7th birthday today, which is actually taking me by surprise, but as our seventh birthday. So it's quite good that we've got. We're starting the day off with Jinx Lennon. We'll be back at one o' clock to speak to Gil McKenzie, who's got loads of experience working behind the scenes of the music industry. And she's starting to use all her contacts and experience to bring some big names to her hometown of Stravan, starting with Becky Wallace on May 8 and Callum Frame at the Old Town Mill. So I'm looking forward to speaking to Gail at 1 o' clock live right here on YouTube. And I think we'll just. I'm going to play a tune off YouTube just to play us out. And. Which is you must forgive the cunts. Which was. Or Forgive the Cunts. But, yeah, this is a classic song we're talking about earlier on and this was a gig that I put Jinx Lenin for, I think it says 14 years ago, according to YouTube. The apologies if the. Sounds a little bit tinny here because I'm playing it off the computer, so sometimes it does that. But, yeah, I think it's a good, good way to. To sort of end the show. So we'll see you at one o' clock for Gail and I hope to see.
• 51:51
  Speaker D: And you stand there with a smoke ring like a Cheshire cat. Someone's gonna want to see you better than you and you're gone from a place that never felt Friction inside and you stand there with a small grain Like a Cheshire cat Someone's gonna want to see about that of your brain when you come from a place that's never bad Friction inside and you stand there with a small ring Like a Cheshire cat Someone's gonna want to see about that Y.
• 52:55
  Speaker B: Oh.
• 52:56
  Speaker D: Merry Christmas,
• 53:00
  Speaker E: everybody.