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Russ Miller: Global Flood, The Lynchpin In War Of Worldviews · Worldview Matters With David Fiorazo

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  Welcome to World View Matters, discussing controversial issues, discerning current events,
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  defending biblical Christianity, no topic, off limits.
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  And now, here's your host, David Firazzo.
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  Hello, friends.
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  I want to bring in our guest today, Russ Miller, with creation ministries.
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  He's an author and he began creation ministries 24 years ago after giving his business to a
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  co-worker.
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  And he then began creation, evolution, and science ministries.
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  He's authored five creation oriented books, including cost and we'll talk about that in
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  a few minutes.
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  And most importantly, he's worked with Northwest Christian School of Phoenix, Arizona to develop
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  an online creation science course that qualifies for high school credit.
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  That's fascinating to me.
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  And we talk a lot about homeschooling here, so that's really neat.
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  Based on his book cost, this puts biblical creation back in public schools for the first
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  time in like 60 years.
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  And Russ also was written and illustrated two coloring books for kids along with his
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  20 plus seminars.
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  He is conceived and developed a grand canyon rim raft and grand staircase tours, leading
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  thousands of people on these God honoring adventures.
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  We'll get more information on that.
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  And by the way, his website is creation ministries.org and Russ Miller, welcome to World
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  View Matters, so good to have you on and now we get to see you.
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  Hey, David.
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  It's good to see you.
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  Happy New Year.
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  Happy New Year to you too, brother.
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  Your dress really warmed there.
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  Did I hear you, we're based in Wisconsin.
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  We have no snow on the ground.
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  Did I hear you say you got a little bit of snow in Arizona?
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  Yes, we're up in Northern Arizona.
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  I know most people around the country think that Arizona is all desert, but right now on
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  Flagstaff it about 7,000 feet above sea level and we have four inches of snow last night.
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  And it's actually been a very dry winter, so we were glad to get it, but I woke up this
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  morning, the heater in this condo that we've rented for a couple of weeks went out last
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  night.
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  It was a 28 degrees outside, it's about 60 inside right now.
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  And they're supposed to get it fixed this afternoon, so I'm trying to stay cool and may
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  have actually overdressed a little bit here in the morning.
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  But anyways, we'll do our best to share with everyone that's listening, because I've been
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  looking forward to speaking with you for a couple of weeks now to get this out.
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  Yeah, and I'm excited, Russ.
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  This is your first time on World View Matters.
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  We've talked on an audio podcast before.
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  This is the first time I get to see you and do this although we've met in person.
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  Before we get into the topic, how the global flood is the lynchpin in the world of worldviews.
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  This is really important what you're doing with your book cost and working with Northwest
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  Christian School and Phoenix.
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  As we know, we've talked about this for many, many years now.
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  The government run school system has kicked out the truth, the creation account, which
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  is really what happened.
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  But now they've got the theory of evolution in most schools being taught as fact, not theory.
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  And this is really interesting.
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  So tell us a little bit about cost and what you're doing there with getting this in the
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  school.
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  Well, David, the book cost, COS and the cross, it's an acronym, the C stands for creation.
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  The O is original as an original send.
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  The S is separation and the cross is our need for redemption through our Lord and Savior,
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  Jesus Christ.
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  So the foundation of the gospel message is very basically that God gave us a perfect
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  creation.
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  You know, David, you get asked all the time, how can we have a loving God in this world
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  full of death and suffering?
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  Well, this is the answer, the cost.
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  The answer is that God didn't give us the world the way it is today full of death and
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  suffering.
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  God gave us a perfect, and this is the C creation.
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  What's not perfect today, what in the world happened to it?
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  Well, Adam's first sin, Adam's, and this is the original send, which separated us.
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  The S separated us from God.
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  Now, this required us to be redeemed with God, but we've got a problem there.
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  We can't redeem ourselves with God.
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  We have to be 100% righteous, perfect, sendless to be redeemed with God, and we can't do that.
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  We're born with a sin nature.
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  So how loving is God, despite our sin that corrupted his creation, allowing death to enter
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  and separated us from him, he sinned his only begotten son to suffer and die in our place.
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  His shed blood covering our sin, our need for redemption, and that's a loving God.
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  You can't get more loving than that.
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  So when somebody asks you, how can we have a loving God in this world full of death and
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  suffering, you just go through the cause and bring them right to the foot of the cross
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  and our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.
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  So that's what the cost is.
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  Now, and you mentioned earlier, we're going to talk about the global flood and why the
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  lynchpin and the war of worldviews about 200 years ago.
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  Most people thought the earth was around 6,000 years old and had been judged by a flood
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  that covered all the high hills under the whole heaven.
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  Well, 200 years ago, some folks started saying, wait a minute, the earth's crust.
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  Those stratified layers laid down by water didn't form quickly in a flood.
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  Instead, they formed a uniform, slow gradual rates over millions and billions of years
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  of time and there was never a global flood.
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  Well, in 2 Peter 3, 3 through 6, we're told that in the last days, scoppers would claim
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  uniform processes and deny the global flood and here are today secular geology is based
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  on a belief in uniform processes and no global flood.
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  Well, see the global flood explains how those stratified layers form quickly wiping out
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  every order of belief.
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  Now, Christians, we're slow to pick up why the age of the earth matters.
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  You know, I hear people all the time say, hey, if God used 6 days or 6 billion years, what's
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  it matter?
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  Well, number one, besides, you know, God's word, the old earth believes and let this sink
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  in.
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  The old earth beliefs are based on those stratified layers forming slowly, but those layers
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  are full of billions of dead things, which death before man.
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  And once you accept death existed before Adam, you can't teach Adam's sin brought in
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  death, separating us from God, recurring our redemption.
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  It's very subtle, but it's totally devastating and that's the reason the global flood is so
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  important.
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  Life's out the older beliefs who cares about old earth beliefs, well, they are now the
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  foundation of Darwinism, naturalism, humanism, modern atheism, agnosticism and all of the
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  nonbiblical beliefs inside of the church today, which I don't know if I really want to
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  get into right now, but I'm actually making a brand new message that I'll get to a conference
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  in Portland, Idaho in early March.
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  And it's going to be a false Christ, shall it write, and I'm going to go through scripture
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  and how we're saved and the importance of actually accepting the Jesus of the Bible.
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  Russ, did you say nonbiblical ideas inside churches?
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  I'm kidding.
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  I'm kidding.
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  I'm kidding.
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  No, but you make a good point if there was no global flood.
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  How can we believe in the entirety of God's word and the Bible as our truth to base our
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  salvation on, right?
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  Absolutely.
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  And, David, today, and this has been going on for a hundred years, it was 200 years ago
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  that the geologic column was invented, which is based on the earth's crust, the stratified
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  layers, separated up by grain size weight and density by moving water by the way.
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  They started saying, wait, they weren't laid down in a flood, they formed slowly and uniformly
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  without a flood, fulfilling second, theater, three, three, three, six.
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  And that's where all older beliefs are based upon.
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  Radiometric dating techniques have to get a date that matches the column where they don't
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  get published.
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  The dates come from the column based on denial of the global flood.
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  So the global flood is the linchpin because a global flood explains how the earth's crust
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  formed quickly, destroying all of those older beliefs.
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  Well, inside the church today, trying to fit millions and billions of years of death
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  into God's word, death, prior to Adam, we now have the yesterday evolutionist who denied
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  Jesus as the creator and the judge he says he is and replaced it with one that fits the
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  secular foundation of uniform processes and no global flood.
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  We have progressive creationists that, again, they deny the Jesus of the Bible and replace
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  him with one that fits with the foundation of secular atheistic humanism, millions of
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  years leading to Darwinism with no global flood and so forth.
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  David, I'm not trying to attack those people I used to be at the yesterday evolutionist.
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  I'm trying to help them, but I need to get and we need to get this information to them
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  because most Christians who have accepted the yesterday evolution or progressive creation
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  etc, they don't realize they're actually denying the biblical Christ and replacing him
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  with one that's the foundations of secular humanism, atheistic humanism.
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  So that's how important it is, but in my experience, and first of all, talking about this
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  will not make you popular inside the Christian industry, because over 90% of our seminaries
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  teach these various Christs.
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  So it's a big problem, you know, in second Thessalonians it talks about this great falling
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  away and there's a lot of debate among Christians and theologians etc, over is that speaking
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  about apostasy is that speaking about the rapture and it may be both because you certainly
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  see massive apostasy when 90% of our schools and seminaries teach a different version
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  of Christ, wow, you can't you can't get further off base than that.
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  So as it is loving and straightforward, backed by biblical creation way and biblical scripture,
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  I'm putting together a message, it's going to spell out and show how those Christ or not
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  the Jesus of the Bible and why it's so important to humble ourselves to his word, not our
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  own thoughts and ideas.
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  We're going to have to have you on a gap, do you give that message in March?
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  Is that a conference sealing the mind or another thing?
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  It is.
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  It's going to be at a stealing the mind of friends in Portland, Idaho on Saturday, March 16.
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  And David to be honest with you, I expect it may be the only time I'm allowed to give
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  this live, so I'd love to kind of share some of that with you, you know, I mean, think
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  about this, how important is it to Jesus that we accept Him as our Creator?
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  Well, the first five words of the Bible, the first five words introduced God as a Creator
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  in the beginning, God created, takes in five words to announce He's the Creator.
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  You know, a trick question that I'll ask people is that, hey, do you guys believe that
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  the entire Bible is the inspired word of God and usually everybody raises their hand and
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  then I do a cheap shot because I point out, well, actually the 10 commandments are etched
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  into stone by God's very own finger.
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  So the rest of the Bible is God's inspired word through holy men inspired by the Holy
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  Spirit, but the 10 commandments are etched into stone by God's very own finger.
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  And David, in the short little 10 commandments, God reiterates for in six days He created
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  the heavens, the earth, the seas, and all that is in them and rested on the Sabbath.
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  So the first words of the Bible say He's the Creator in the middle of the 10 commandments,
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  He claims He's the Creator on the day of Jesus' resurrection.
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  He approaches His two disciples walking away from Jerusalem.
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  They've heard He's resurrected His disciples don't even believe it.
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  He approaches His two disciples on the day of His resurrection and begins teaching them
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  from Moses, which I have no doubt starts out that in the beginning He created.
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  The fact that He's our Creator gives Him the right to judge us because He owns us.
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  And because He loves us as our judge, He has the right to put the death sentence we deserve
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  on Himself and become our Savior.
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  So Jesus is Creator, Judge, and Savior.
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  So when we denote the Creator, we deny the judge and replace Him with one that fits
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  the foundation of atheistic humanism, I think that's a dangerous place to be.
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  And that's what I'm trying to see.
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  The last time the gospel is mentioned in the Bible in Revelation 14, 6 through 7, I believe,
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  it's when an angel holding the everlasting gospel is encouraging the people on earth to worship
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  the Creator.
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  When the elders faltered their knees and they throw their golden crowns at the foot of
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  God and worship the Creator, it's important that we understand that Jesus is our Creator
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  because that's the real Jesus to replace anything else is a dangerous place to be.
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  Yes, we're speaking with Russ Miller, creationministries.org.
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  Russ Miller is our guest and Russ, one of the things on one of the pages of your website,
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  it says off grid creationist.
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  Tell us about that.
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  You've got two minute videos that you send out about that.
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  Tell us a little bit about that before we continue back on the flood.
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  David, my wife and I, for about eight and a half years ago, we found a log cabin home
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  we wanted to live in and it happens to be in an extinct volcanic crater in northern Arizona.
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  We moved there, but it has a great solar system with a backup generator.
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  It does not have actual electricity coming into that area.
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  So it's off the grid and it's nothing like you would expect.
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  It's a beautiful chalet log cabin, three levels on the hillside, surrounded by huge gamble trees and fine trees.
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  And that's where we live.
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  So a few years ago, during the when during the COVID release, I mean, the when the COVID got out accidentally that bad.
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  I believe it was, we don't want to go there, right?
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  We're going to be here for a long time.
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  We started doing these short little videos called the off grid creationist.
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  And I'll start out doing something that's somewhat off grid or heading wood, chopping wood, working on the generator or doing something.
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  And I'll just do that for about 30 seconds and I'll say, but you know, this really isn't what I want to talk about.
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  And then I'll go into a part of a creation message.
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  And they're fairly short.
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  They're actually probably about four minutes long each.
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  And they're just kind of fun, but they get some good information across.
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  So you can go to that page on Russ's website creation ministries.org off the grid, man, that does open up a whole nother topic.
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  But we're not going there today.
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  We've got to go back and talk about the flood.
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  One thing and the truth of scripture and the truth of Genesis, when I sometimes flip over and watch Nat Geo or watch some sort of program about nature,
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  about different species, killing the other species and how the wild works.
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  Oftentimes in the intro, it starts off Russ Miller by saying billions of years ago or millions of years ago.
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  And I'm thinking, OK, well, how did they come up with this?
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  And so my point is kids are being not just kids.
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  I mean, people are being influenced by these programs that just say, all right, where's the proof?
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  They're just saying millions or billions of years.
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  Just your thoughts on that before we continue.
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  David, those millions and billions of years are all based on they're never having been a global flood in the earth's crust, forming slowly and uniformly at today's rate.
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  That it's always been the same.
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  And that's where they came up with the geologic column and assigned millions and hundreds of millions of years to the column based on again, uniform processes and no global flood.
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  Again, second, theater, three, three, three, six says that basically scoppers in the last day will claim uniform processes and did not global flood.
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  Just as the word God says, that's what they're doing.
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  That's where the old earth plays all come from.
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  Now, I cover that in my book costs and our tea chains and on our grand Canyon tours as well.
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  The age of the earth comes down to whether or not there was a global flood.
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  If you accept millions and billions of years and you may not realize this, but you're accepting the sector of interpretation of the earth's crust, those stratified layers laid down by water separated by grain size, weight and density by moving water.
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  You're accepting the sector of our interpretation that there was never a flood and they formed slowly and uniformly at today's rates.
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  That's where the millions of years beliefs come from.
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  The global flood extends how those layers form quickly in the year long flood, wiping out every order of belief that puts death prior to Adam.
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  One thing I show people like a grand Canyon, for instance, a grand Canyon is one of what I call the five pillars of older beliefs.
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  It's one of their pillars that it forms slowly over millions and billions of years of time.
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  I just say millions, not billions.
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  The evidence of the flood that the grand Canyon's spectacular David, have you been to Grand Canyon?
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  No.
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  Well, you need to come out and go with me on one of our tours.
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  If you can get away this summer, I'd love to have you come out and see this.
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  It's mind boggling, but when you're standing on the rim of the canyon, it's a mile from the rim down to the river.
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  A mile of stratified layers laid down by water.
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  And they say that the river carved through those layers slowly over millions of years of time.
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  A few things they will tell you is that the river doesn't, and the canyon doesn't cut into the plane.
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  The area uplifted, called the Kayabab Plateau or Kayabab Upwork, and the waters cut through the Upwork.
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  You're standing at the edge of Grand Canyon.
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  You're on top of the Upwork looking at the chasm that's cut through the Upwork.
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  Now, what happened and another thing they won't tell you there because the sector was on the system,
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  is that that mile from the rim of the river,
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  the whole lot of strata is nothing.
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  There used to be two miles of rock layers above today's rim that have been removed from southern Utah south to the sea.
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  And God left two buttes.
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  I just saw one in the video you run in the background.
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  He left two 900 foot buttes one at each of the two entrances to the south rim 900 feet above.
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  The layer that makes up the rim of Grand Canyon, which is the Kayabab limestone.
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  And those 900 foot layers have been removed for tens of thousands of square miles.
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  They're picked up 65 miles north of the canyon in the.
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  What's called the Grand Staircase.
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  The Grand Staircase is where the missing layers are picked up as you go north from Grand Canyon into southern Utah.
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  And it's a series of 2,000 and 2,500 foot cliffs.
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  I just mentioned the major ones. You go 65 miles north into 2000 to 2,500 tall or million cliffs.
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  Now, if you climbed up on top of those and went 40 to 45 miles north,
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  you'll come to the Zion area and hit the white and gray cliffs through which Zion cuts that are another 2500 foot of cliffs.
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  If you climb up on those and go 40 to 45 miles north, you can hit the 2000 to 2500 foot tall pink cliffs where we find Bryce.
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  That's the Grand Staircase. A huge, erosional event that cut and left Bryce, Zion, for million cliffs, go on to the sea.
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  Grand Canyon is a big hole in the ground.
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  Okay, it's 277 miles long, up to 18 miles wide. Average is a mile deep.
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  Now, think about this. It's missing. The canyon is missing about 900 cubic miles of sediments.
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  That's a big hole in the ground. But the Grand Staircase isn't missing 900 cubic miles of sediments.
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  It's missing about 133,000 cubic miles of sediments.
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  Grand Canyon's missing sediments don't even equal 1% of what's missing from the staircase.
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  And that's flooding on it that had to be on a global scale. There's no other way to explain it.
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  So these are some of the things I share on our Grand Canyon Grand Staircase tours.
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  You cannot overemphasize the importance of Genesis, particularly one through 11 chapters, one through 11 with the global flood.
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  Because as you said earlier, if you remove the truth of the global flood and God's judgment,
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  due to the corruption of mankind and Genesis 6, 7 and 8, if you remove that, then the Bible is not true.
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  That's one of the things they try to use against us. But about these tours, Russ, I'm looking at your website now,
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  and I just want to give you the opportunity to share where they can go to get information on the dates of the tours.
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  The main tours that I have going this summer, we have three Grand Staircase tours going in June.
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  And the way to get on those, I know one of them is already filled, two of them still have some seats left.
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  We just added the third one because of the first two almost filled up.
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  Go to compass.org.
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  Compass International is who puts on the stealing the mind conferences up in Portland.
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  And Bill and City Perkins, who are the founders of compass.
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  We work together and we do our rim and raft trips and our Grand Staircase trips.
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  And because of some security issues, because of all the terrorists we've led into the country through the southern border.
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  So that's another, we probably don't want to get into right now.
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  But compass.org and look under their tours. And you can, you can get on board our tours through compass and these these Grand Staircase tours are four night free.
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  I did a trips. We're going to go to Zion Bryce in the North Rim of Grand Canyon, which by the way is spectacular.
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  The North Rim is awesome. The above 1100 feet higher in elevation than the South Rim. It's spectacular.
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  So yeah, if you're out there is interested in having an awesome Christian tour.
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  Go to compass.org and to this staircase this June.
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  Okay, compass.org for those trips, Russ's website creationministries.org.
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  But by the way, we have to continue that conversation. We don't shy away from any topic here.
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  And we are fed up with what's happening with the Fed at the southern border.
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  And what's been happening over the years is just really astounding.
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  You can't have a nation without borders. But yet, and it's a plan. It's a plan by the left. But anyway, Russ, we're running out of time already.
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  So I just want to thank you for the work that you do. People get a lot of information, watch some videos.
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  Check out Russ's book cost and Lord willing, we'd like to do this again in a couple of months. Is that sound good, Russ?
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  I'd be honored to do it. So let's do it once I think that new message together.
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  Yeah, we will do so. We'll look sometime around March, March or April. All right.
• 26:43
  Sounds good. All right, Russ. God bless you. Thanks so much for your time today. Stay warm.
• 26:49
  All right, Russ Miller. And, you know, most of you guys know if you've been following me for a while, I love snow.
• 26:55
  And I was one of the few, I guess, in our area that was disappointed. We didn't have a white Christmas.
• 27:00
  I didn't expect to be living in the Midwest or Northeast Wisconsin to be dreaming of a white Christmas. But anyway, tomorrow on the program, we've got John Haller, elder at Fellowship Bible Chapel in Ohio.
• 27:12
  Wednesday author Dave Jenkins. He's got a brand new book out on contentment, Davis with servants of grace and JB Hickson on Thursday.
• 27:23
  We're going to talk about rightly dividing the word of truth. So full schedule and I could even tell you about next week. We've got that filled up already.
• 27:32
  We're going to be doing a bunch of shows, Dean Dwyer from Australia coming back with us and a whole lot more thanks to your prayers, support and sharing this podcast on social media because we are somewhat limited.
• 27:46
  God bless you. And as always, keep speaking the truth about things that matter.