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Episode 253 - Blockchain for Community Resilience: How Ukrainian Ecovillages Are Sheltering Thousands and Restoring the Land with Web3, with GEN Ukraine · Crypto Altruists: Real-World Stories of Social & Environmental Impact with Web3

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  SPEAKER_01: Today you'll discover what eco-villages are and how Gen Ukraine's network of over 60 communities is building resilience during wartime.
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  SPEAKER_01: How Web3 partnerships with Arcrean, Sylvie, Regen Network, and Sarafu are powering solar energy, tree planting, land regeneration, and commitment pooling, and a look inside their Eco Impact Dashboard and RegenBank, tools for tracking and funding regenerative work at the community level.
• 0:24
  SPEAKER_01: Welcome to Crypto Altruists, where we explore the intersections of Web3 and social good to the stories of impact-driven builders and offer actionable insights to empower your journey into the world of blockchain for good.
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  SPEAKER_01: I'm your host, Drew Simon.
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  SPEAKER_01: Now, before we dive in, please remember that this is not financial or legal advice, and always do your own research on any of the projects or investment opportunities that we discuss.
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  SPEAKER_01: Welcome back to the Crypto Altruist Podcast for episode 253, and thank you so much for joining us today.
• 0:48
  SPEAKER_01: When we talk about Web3 for good, we often talk about it in the abstract.
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  SPEAKER_01: Today we're going to see what it looks like on the ground, in the middle of a war, in communities that are quite literally rebuilding while the conflict continues.
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  SPEAKER_01: Today I'm joined by Maxim Zelevsky of Gen Ukraine, the Ukrainian branch of the Global Eco-Villages Network.
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  SPEAKER_01: Gen Ukraine is a grassroots network of over 60 eco-villages, family farms, and intentional communities across the country.
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  SPEAKER_01: Since Russia's full-scale invasion in 2022, these communities have become sanctuaries for displaced families, solidarity centers, and hubs for ecological regeneration.
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  SPEAKER_01: Through the Green Road of Eco-Villages project, Gen Ukraine has sheltered over 3,000 people, with around 600 still living in these communities today.
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  SPEAKER_01: But this isn't just about emergency shelter.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's about building long-term resilience, restoring land destroyed in the war, installing solar energy systems, planting trees, and creating sustainable livelihoods.
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  SPEAKER_01: And another element of what makes the story particularly interesting for our audience is how Web3 fits in.
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  SPEAKER_01: Gen Ukraine has built partnerships with projects like our Creene for solar energy tracking, Sylvie and Regia network for tree planting and land regeneration, and their Sarafru network for commitment pooling and community currencies.
• 1:52
  SPEAKER_01: They've even developed an Eco Impact dashboard that tracks all this work transparently so you can see the impact in real time.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's a really powerful example of what community-led blockchain-enabled resilience can look like on the ground in some of the most challenging environments.
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  SPEAKER_01: So let's dive in.
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  SPEAKER_01: Maxim, thank you so much for being here today on the Crypto Alt Tourist podcast.
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  SPEAKER_01: It is so great to have you joining us today.
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  SPEAKER_01: Thanks for being here.
• 2:16
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, thank you for inviting me.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's very, very exciting to me.
• 2:21
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's been a long time coming.
• 2:22
  SPEAKER_01: I've been wanting to sit down and chat with you for a while now because I'm a big fan of the work that you've been doing with Gen Ukraine.
• 2:28
  SPEAKER_01: I, you know, I was introduced to it in the Octon Climate Round and then in Epoch 10, and uh just got to kind of learn a bit more through that.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um and have done some research since then, uh seen some of the really cool work you've been doing across Ukraine.
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  SPEAKER_01: So I am really excited for this conversation.
• 2:44
  SPEAKER_01: And you know, before we kind of explore the work that you're doing, I'd love to learn a little bit about you and how you got where you are today.
• 2:51
  SPEAKER_01: So um tell me a little bit about yourself and how you uh got involved with Gen Ukraine.
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  SPEAKER_00: Uh well uh I'm it's a very interesting story because I uh working as an act uh eco activist.
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  SPEAKER_00: Uh I have a green school in uh in my uh country, it's uh lectorium for uh echo startups, eco projects, and it was uh networking for our uh big uh eco uh community.
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  SPEAKER_00: We are building this networking and connection the people.
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  SPEAKER_00: Uh, and in one time I uh I invited one speaker from uh from Gen Europe.
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  SPEAKER_00: Uh it was uh as a president of GenEurope in that time, Robert.
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  SPEAKER_00: And he tells us a story about eco-villages, ecobillage network uh in Europe.
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  SPEAKER_00: And uh uh I come to to Gathering in uh uh in Europe and uh he showed me a map, uh, a map of Ecovillage map uh network in in Europe.
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  SPEAKER_00: And he says that uh Ukraine is only uh white spot in this map, and uh we should to do something with that.
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  SPEAKER_00: And uh I say okay, we start to do something with that, and we build our eco-village network in Ukraine and uh connect uh our because we have a lot of uh eco-villages in Ukraine, and uh we have some specific story with that, and of course, we connect these people, we make a gathering, a tour, and uh and uh we uh my my goal it it was um my vision was uh how to connect uh these villages uh together and maybe uh to integrate to a big family of a college network in the world, in the planet, uh, to show what we do and uh maybe uh experience our uh our experience exchange uh and something uh about that.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's awesome.
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  SPEAKER_01: So you know you have that experience with the green school, like you mentioned, and then you know, moving to the eco-villages as part of this much broader network, which is really cool.
• 5:10
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and it's something that I, you know, is kind of new to me too.
• 5:12
  SPEAKER_01: I wasn't aware that it was such a big thing in Europe, which is neat.
• 5:15
  SPEAKER_01: So maybe um just to kind of start at a higher level, do you mind just kind of introducing Gen Ukraine and what an eco-village is and and kind of what your network does?
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  SPEAKER_00: Uh well, our eco-villages, it's uh uh uh I I'm not uh understand uh the difference between uh before, but after I understand that it's a real difference between uh European format of eco-villages because uh in Ukraine we have a lot of the land, uh and now we lost a lot of people.
• 5:51
  SPEAKER_00: And uh for European format, it's uh previously co housing, co-living, kommunas, when not a lot of land, but uh a lot of people living together in one house or some houses, and uh because because the land in in Europe is very expensive, uh for us it's more maybe cheaper.
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  SPEAKER_00: Uh in the in Ukraine, uh when uh when we start it was in the philosophy of one hectare houses, and uh it was individual homesteads, uh families live in one hectare, and uh it's about neighborhood between these houses uh in one in one space in one village, and it's uh previously Ukrainian villages.
• 6:47
  SPEAKER_00: And of course uh uh this specific uh it makes some difference between everything, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: And uh when I meet a concept in uh in Europe in region community they speak about regenerative philosophy of villages.
• 7:12
  SPEAKER_00: When you use as a degraded land to live and build a little infrastructure for living, and uh this land you regenerate to recover ecosystem.
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  SPEAKER_00: For us, it's a story about 20 years our experience.
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  SPEAKER_00: Because uh when we start most of our villages take the land, it was degradated land from after Soviet uh agro expansion, and uh uh these people uh grow in the forest in this land, they make uh lakes, they build as a paradise uh philosophy, and uh it's it's about our villages.
• 8:04
  SPEAKER_00: Uh and we have uh thousands of people uh who started to do that, but of course the war makes some uh big difference between between the lost because we we real lost uh a lot of them.
• 8:20
  SPEAKER_00: Uh about 70 percent of people now we lost in our villages because they move or to um uh or to uh other countries or to uh the front line to to the war mobilization, volunteering, or other things, or to the cities because it's it's real big um uh apocalyptime uh for for us, and now now it's uh it's a lot of the land, but not a lot of the people.
• 8:55
  SPEAKER_00: Uh sometimes it's an eco-village with two or three families only, but about 50 hectares of the land, and it's about our specific, yes.
• 9:07
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, that's amazing, and it's um you know, it's really amazing like just seeing because it's really an interesting kind of situation, you know, that you're in with the the eco-villages on their own is a really incredible concept of regenerating these spaces and these yeah, just creating this like really amazing network of these um, you know, these villages that you're helping regenerate, you know, bring in some agriculture, you know, help uh regenerate the local biodiversity, which is really cool.
• 9:31
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and then at the same time, it's kind of sitting in this context of the war as well, you know, and since Russia's full-scale invasion in 2022, um, I know that you've helped over 3,000 people as well find shelter in your community.
• 9:44
  SPEAKER_01: So you had mentioned that a lot of folks, you know, have been leaving for many different reasons, whether to go to a different country or they had to, you know, help with the war in some way.
• 9:53
  SPEAKER_01: So that's one part.
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  SPEAKER_01: But then on the other hand, you've done a great job of helping bring people in, you know, 3,000 people who have displaced.
• 9:59
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, it's really incredible.
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  SPEAKER_01: So, can you tell us about this and you know the Green Road of Eco Villages project that you're working on?
• 10:05
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, it's a really incredible story.
• 10:07
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
• 10:08
  SPEAKER_00: Green Road is uh it's uh uh the biggest maybe our project uh during these eight years because it was uh biggest challenge for for the Ukraine because uh people when starts the war, people move into the west, and uh sometimes it's uh it's real uh they walking to the road without nothing, and uh from uh people from our villages stay to more active uh to protect these people, to support them, uh, and they move to this road and take the families and move to our villages and give them uh or houses or space for living.
• 10:53
  SPEAKER_00: And uh uh we make a big uh uh map, uh it's Google Map.
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  SPEAKER_00: Uh with contacts, and people use this uh these contacts and uh moving to this uh uh to this from during this map.
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  SPEAKER_00: During this road uh from one village to next village to the west to the most protected uh regions.
• 11:19
  SPEAKER_00: And after we connect this road to uh Europe, and about uh 350 eco villages in Europe in all European countries connect to this to this uh work, and people uh continue to moving and living in hundreds of different places uh in this uh in this project, and it's it's a real big project because European networks say that we connect everybody and push everybody togethering uh in Europe uh better than every activities uh they were they make before.
• 12:12
  SPEAKER_00: Uh and uh it it was a real our project for protection uh people for support refugees and uh uh and uh I I I will uh now for now after uh five uh years uh uh uh part of our villages is ecovillages uh uh as refugees ecovillages because people who moving from the war uh starting in 2014, uh they moving and moving and uh creating eco-villages or living in our ecovillages, stay to live, and uh it's it's the story for us it's uh it's the story of uh um of our um how to say um uh a big connection.
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  SPEAKER_00: Big connection.
• 13:10
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's amazing.
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  SPEAKER_01: I mean it's really incredible, and you know, you're right.
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  SPEAKER_01: I think a lot of folks forget that you know this has been a challenge that you've been working with since 2014, obviously, since you know Russia's annexation of Crimea.
• 13:22
  SPEAKER_01: And so this has been something you've been working on for a while, and it's really great how it's kind of addressing two things at once the regeneration of the land and supporting people uh in need and giving them a place uh to call home, which is really incredible.
• 13:34
  SPEAKER_01: And so, you know, one thing that you've done a really great job of is you know, reporting and ensuring this impact with the world.
• 13:41
  SPEAKER_01: Um and you know, I'd love to dive into the different ways that you're using kind of web three as well to help with this.
• 13:47
  SPEAKER_01: And so, you know, one of the things that I was really impressed by is your eco impact dashboard, um, which tracks the work that your network is doing, you know, solar energy, tree planting, land restoration, you know, lots of different uh things there.
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  SPEAKER_01: Uh so can you walk us through the impact dashboard and how it all came to be and kind of how it works?
• 14:05
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, uh uh this dashboard, it's real final uh final point of our uh work with uh web 3 integration uh last two years because uh uh because um uh when we start it was uh not not simple start because uh we have a big grants of traditional grants uh and uh and web 2 integration and uh uh and uh this uh big grants uh it has a lot of bureaucracy and a lot of reports and uh a lot of challenges for us.
• 14:49
  SPEAKER_00: Uh people was burnout and uh uh it's it was uh not simple adaptation uh for uh and balancing balancing between uh grants and uh supporting the people, and uh we start to look at some alternative.
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  SPEAKER_00: And this alternative I find in climate rounds uh and regenerative rounds, our first rounds it was Ma Earths, uh and it for us it was a was new philosophy.
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  SPEAKER_00: Uh we say that in uh Earth we trust because we we everybody uh uh want to regenerate our land uh after bombing and uh uh recovery our ecosystem and regenerate the people.
• 15:40
  SPEAKER_00: And uh we're looking for that as a new way.
• 15:44
  SPEAKER_00: And after uh after we start to thinking about how to measure what we do or our climate impact, and uh we start to tokenizing everything and looking for partnership or partners platform because we have no coders in our uh team, uh it's only uh only eco activists and uh social activists, and of course, we're looking for uh partner who uh who uh uh partner uh platform who uh uh good uh has a good experience for working, and uh we start to do that.
• 16:25
  SPEAKER_00: And after we're gathering all information in one platform, and uh we could tokenizing everything what we do, and it it was uh an idea, and we do that only with vibe coding, but it's our concentrated picture.
• 16:42
  SPEAKER_00: Uh what we do uh and uh how we do it, and uh it's it's about us, yeah, yeah, yeah, it is.
• 16:50
  SPEAKER_01: That's amazing.
• 16:51
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, it's really cool.
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  SPEAKER_01: Like you don't have any coders or tech folk, but you're able to pull together this incredible dashboard, uh, which is super helpful, and it's a really great just kind of like testament to what this technology can do for nonprofits to help them with sharing their impact with the world, which is great.
• 17:05
  SPEAKER_01: And this also ties into and this this tokenization piece ties into the regen bank as well.
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  SPEAKER_01: I know.
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  SPEAKER_01: So um tell me a little bit about regen bank and how that kind of ties into this work and and what exactly it is.
• 17:19
  SPEAKER_00: Oh as a story, it's real, it's uh it's a uh cyberpunk story because uh uh in one time we uh start to looking for carbon credits uh and uh making as a carbon voluntary carbon uh credits economy uh for for our villages because uh we have uh location, uh reserve uh location uh for for that.
• 17:50
  SPEAKER_00: And uh we start to work with OpenForce Protocol and with uh Regen Network, it's a real big platform with big work of methodology.
• 18:00
  SPEAKER_00: Uh how to have to tokenize that, verificated uh our impact.
• 18:06
  SPEAKER_00: But in one time we understand that uh we have some point, uh one of them is about uh documents, because uh a verificator wants to have as uh documents of owner of the land.
• 18:24
  SPEAKER_00: Uh and in Ukraine it's a big challenge because now our uh cadastras uh or registry uh are closed in the war, and uh we can't uh we can't to uh make some uh documentation with that, and we understand that we can't uh verificate it what we do, and we start to looking for alternative.
• 18:51
  SPEAKER_00: And in one time, uh in partnership with my friend, uh uh we do this uh platform as a fork of region network, and uh it's uh it's a platform uh for testing carbon credits for our stewards uh uh who uh uh who work in with the land, and uh it's it's our idea how to have to find uh possibilities and moving uh when this uh is a big problem with verificators because uh we can't moving make next steps.
• 19:34
  SPEAKER_00: Uh and it's it's a real problem in Web 3.
• 19:37
  SPEAKER_00: And I think we need to discuss more about that.
• 19:41
  SPEAKER_00: How to how to make low democracy uh bureaucracy uh more adaptive uh for all communities, not only for uh western uh countries.
• 19:58
  SPEAKER_00: Um because uh we have some specific uh situation, yeah, it's about that.
• 20:06
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know how to correctly tell about that, but I I think I correctly uh I clear show you our problem, yeah.
• 20:15
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, no, for sure.
• 20:16
  SPEAKER_01: And I think the best way to really see it is for folks to check it out, too, right?
• 20:19
  SPEAKER_01: And so you know I'll make sure to include all the links uh for all these different things we're talking about.
• 20:24
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and you know, a big part of this has been partnerships, I know as well, right?
• 20:28
  SPEAKER_01: And that you've partnered with a number of different fantastic organizations, um, many of whom I've um had on the podcast in the past, too, including RCN, you know, Sylvie, Regen Network, Sarafu Network, um, just so many different kinds of partners here.
• 20:42
  SPEAKER_01: And so I'm curious, like you know, if there's any partnerships you wanted to highlight and and how they came to be.
• 20:47
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's uh it's real big uh help for us because uh uh this platform we we're using a different platform we're testing for us, uh what working or what not, but but this platform was uh good for us because uh we're looking for possibilities how to tokenize our solar energy.
• 21:13
  SPEAKER_00: Uh we make a solar station because we have a big problem with uh uh bombing and blackouts.
• 21:23
  SPEAKER_00: And uh it's uh our alternatives for a big uh company who building uh big uh uh power station.
• 21:36
  SPEAKER_00: or vint station, but uh we only uh little community, and we building as a little uh common spaces, and for us it's very important how to uh building some infrastructure and in and support this infrastructure.
• 21:55
  SPEAKER_00: And of course, this platform helps us a lot because.
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_00: Because uh, yes, we have some challenges with this uh hardware, smart matters, and my smart matter not working now, and it's real sometimes a problem, but we're moving uh and looking for possibilities every time because uh for us it's a question for surviving, for uh looking for new resources and new senses, and finding uh find a solution for uh for our little communities, how to move and uh what is the way uh for moving.
• 22:35
  SPEAKER_00: And of course, Sylvie is for tree planting, good alternative for open forest protocol.
• 22:41
  SPEAKER_00: Uh uh Arc Green give us possibility for solar station uh tokenizing.
• 22:47
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, and uh Sarafu is real real good platform for uh starting measuring our in uh internal economic economy because we make a 30 vouchers for every hour communities, uh active communities, and start to make an as uh workshops and activities and make a lot a lot of uh report in our pools.
• 23:15
  SPEAKER_00: And uh uh after one hour, I start to uh we we continue our Zoom.
• 23:22
  SPEAKER_00: Uh we're speaking with Will and Aude from with Sarafu for consulting us.
• 23:28
  SPEAKER_00: And it's real for us, it's real important to be part of this movement.
• 23:33
  SPEAKER_00: And uh and I'm happy that we find this platform and these people, amazing people and amazing community, regen coordination uh network, it's good community and uh climate uh coordination network.
• 23:49
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, these people help and support us a lot.
• 23:53
  SPEAKER_00: And uh solar punk nomads, it's uh real new partnership.
• 23:58
  SPEAKER_00: This uh Web3, uh our um integration, and uh it's not every time about platform, uh previously, it's about the people uh who uh enthusiastic people uh and uh this new energy.
• 24:15
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's it's amazing.
• 24:17
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, no, that is amazing, and you know it's really incredible because I kind of did some you know research into the history of your organization, and you've been around for you know for quite some time.
• 24:25
  SPEAKER_01: It predates um, you know, really kind of the boom of Web3, I would say.
• 24:29
  SPEAKER_01: And so you know, you didn't originally start as a crypto-based or crypto-native organization, but really kind of grew and evolved as things change.
• 24:37
  SPEAKER_01: You know, I'm guessing curious, what makes blockchain and web 3 tools such a good fit for this type of kind of community-led environmental work?
• 24:46
  SPEAKER_00: Uh yeah.
• 24:47
  SPEAKER_00: Uh I'm I'm uh economist.
• 24:50
  SPEAKER_00: Uh my first uh uh uh uh when I study in university, I will uh study as an economist and uh it's my first degree.
• 25:01
  SPEAKER_00: But uh when I start work with uh blockchain, I understand that it's our new story, it's our new public story because uh all our transaction transaction uh when I read as a network state book from Balaggi, uh in one in one chapter th he says about how to write a future story.
• 25:27
  SPEAKER_00: Uh and uh I say that we write our story now in blockchain.
• 25:32
  SPEAKER_00: Everything we do, we write in blockchain, and it's really important for us because people find new senses.
• 25:39
  SPEAKER_00: Uh what we do, because we uh in our situation, why it's important because uh every time we lost people, we we lost location, uh we in very uh hard situation in var in economic challenges, blockchain uh blockout challenges, and we uh in is this our story about us in transaction and in blockchain in this platform uh to say how we uh stay uh resilience uh in uh and uh building uh our um connection our as uh network micellum uh in in transaction.
• 26:24
  SPEAKER_00: And uh for me it's about that.
• 26:28
  SPEAKER_00: And every time if you open our pool in Sarafo or you open a map of our tree uh planting in Sylvie or uh our project in Regen network platform or other platform, you see what what we do.
• 26:46
  SPEAKER_00: You you see our uh picture of our uh of our activities and uh and uh our lifestyle and what we do in in this situation.
• 26:58
  SPEAKER_00: And uh and uh it's uh uh it's about it's uh a voice about us uh in real time in transaction.
• 27:06
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's a for me, for me it's uh this picture, but I think that my people say something uh different between uh about that, but for me it's about about this point.
• 27:20
  SPEAKER_01: Really cool, yeah.
• 27:21
  SPEAKER_01: It's really amazing all the different kind of ways you've um implemented Web3 into your work and and you know, really use it to scale your impact.
• 27:29
  SPEAKER_01: And we've talked a lot about the use cases and and and stuff like that so far in this conversation.
• 27:33
  SPEAKER_01: I'd really love to hear um some of the stories of of this work.
• 27:36
  SPEAKER_01: So I'm curious like, were there any specific you know, community projects or moments that you'd like to share that really kind of uh demonstrate the power of this technology to enact social change?
• 27:48
  SPEAKER_00: Yesterday I speak with my with Mike uh some communities, and we speak uh what's the report of Sarafu and uh what what it gives for you.
• 27:58
  SPEAKER_00: And uh some people say that uh when when we do that uh everytime uh we we we um we take some in from this pool we take some money and this money helps us to uh to do uh uh all our workshops because uh mmm because when you work with traditional grant with bureaucracy, all money you should uh do uh it's it's uh uh specific money.
• 28:38
  SPEAKER_00: Sometimes you can take it for your work.
• 28:41
  SPEAKER_00: When you work with uh with uh uh poo in uh in uh serapho or in other platform, uh because in Silvi uh it uh every every uh trees uh paying the money, and it was verificated.
• 29:01
  SPEAKER_00: And people take the money directly, peer to peer.
• 29:05
  SPEAKER_00: And in pool you take money from pool directly, and it's uh it's about trust system between us, and it's about how people uh uh uh feeling this support.
• 29:23
  SPEAKER_00: Uh in in uh in uh things what what they do uh in and it's it's so it's so important because it's um uh it's without bureaucracy, it's uh uh uh fast, it's uh uh sometimes uh you you should uh uh this money it's very slowly is traditional money.
• 29:53
  SPEAKER_00: But crypto money for Ukraine is very fast because in Ukraine crypto is very popular.
• 29:59
  SPEAKER_00: It's uh you can use it uh everywhere.
• 30:03
  SPEAKER_00: And uh when you take a crypto, you very fast convert it to uh fiat money and uh buy a fuel for your bus or uh uh uh tools for uh uh working in the garden or tools for uh solar station or something else.
• 30:23
  SPEAKER_00: And uh for us it's it's very important because it's uh it's a new level of uh fast uh uh ecosystem, very resilient system.
• 30:34
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's it's uh this story.
• 30:36
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's amazing.
• 30:37
  SPEAKER_01: That's so cool.
• 30:38
  SPEAKER_01: And yeah, it's really cool how all these different elements integrate together, right?
• 30:42
  SPEAKER_01: So you have uh you know, Sylvie and region network and our cream to help with kind of like the tokenization of your actions.
• 30:48
  SPEAKER_01: So somebody plants a tree, you know, they can verify it through Sylvie, you know, it kind of tokenizes, and then you use that uh to then fund the commitment pool through Surafu network.
• 30:59
  SPEAKER_01: Is that is that correct how it works?
• 31:01
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
• 31:01
  SPEAKER_00: It it's uh it's about these pools.
• 31:05
  SPEAKER_00: Uh and uh we uh study this book because uh he writes the book, uh grassroot economics, and uh we work in a lot about adaptating because we have some experience when we take something without adaptating, it's very important to uh everything to adaptate in your reality.
• 31:27
  SPEAKER_00: Uh because uh we have some experience with socioc and the circle system, and we understand that uh in different cultures it working differently, and it's uh for for us uh we we build uh our uh pool Ukrainian style pool uh commitment.
• 31:50
  SPEAKER_00: Uh and uh uh sometimes it's a question why we do that, but uh I understand that for our reality sometimes we should do uh uh things uh different, and it's it's it's important, uh yeah.
• 32:08
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, for sure.
• 32:09
  SPEAKER_01: That's so cool.
• 32:10
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's really amazing because we actually recently had Will and Grassroots Economics on the podcast, and they talked about Surafu network, um, you know, and the really amazing work they're doing there.
• 32:20
  SPEAKER_01: So it's great to see it in practice and how you've linked it uh to other Web3 mechanisms like the tokenization of the work that you're doing to regenerate this land, which is really cool that really ties it all together.
• 32:31
  SPEAKER_01: So, you know, this is amazing, and obviously there are so many different things we could talk about.
• 32:35
  SPEAKER_01: This conversation could go on for hours.
• 32:37
  SPEAKER_01: So I'm curious for folks that want to learn more to get involved to support your work.
• 32:42
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, what's the best place for them to do that and how can they help?
• 32:46
  SPEAKER_00: Uh well, we have a site uh uh uh and of course if you speak a lot about Sarafa pool, you can find our Toloka uh Toloka is uh our traditional uh uh Ukrainian uh things when we do something together.
• 33:04
  SPEAKER_00: And uh uh it's uh we have a Toloka pool in Sarafu, and you you can support this pool, and you can see all all our activities uh clearly, and our uh uh reports.
• 33:19
  SPEAKER_00: Uh in this pool.
• 33:21
  SPEAKER_00: Uh you can support uh our gives pool.
• 33:25
  SPEAKER_00: We have a course in gives it's regenerative in Ukraine.
• 33:30
  SPEAKER_00: And uh uh of course uh or you can find our site Gen Ukraine.
• 33:41
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, and uh and uh study more about us, uh our map, our impact dashboard, and everything.
• 33:49
  SPEAKER_00: And of course, we have Regen Bank with our project and uh carbon credits, and you can support our stewardship about uh uh we we uh uh stewards uh our lands.
• 34:04
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, we regenerate a lot of land in Ukraine.
• 34:08
  SPEAKER_01: That's amazing.
• 34:09
  SPEAKER_01: Well, make sure to include all the important links, of course, for folks listening along so you can check it out, support uh, you know, maybe get some uh carbon credits to support their work, um, participate in their network.
• 34:21
  SPEAKER_01: So I'll make sure to include all those links uh in the show notes.
• 34:24
  SPEAKER_01: And you know, I love to end on a note of inspiration.
• 34:26
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, it's been inspiring hearing all the great work they're doing and the stories of impact.
• 34:31
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but I'm curious, you know, as you look forward to the future, what gives you the most hope and what do you want people to know about the future of regeneration in Ukraine?
• 34:41
  SPEAKER_00: Uh I'm very saying thankful for uh all regen uh moving uh in uh in crypto in Web3 because uh they uh show us new uh new uh vision uh how to how to uh measure what we do.
• 35:01
  SPEAKER_00: Uh and uh it was uh one of the biggest steps when we opened the map of the planet and show what we do in the one little piece of uh this planet.
• 35:13
  SPEAKER_00: Uh but for us it's very big step.
• 35:17
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, and of course, for me, uh few uh I I see in future it's uh uh we we have a challenges, it's a post-apal apocalyptic sometimes challenges because war it's uh and climate challenges.
• 35:36
  SPEAKER_00: Uh all of this uh we have in Ukraine, but uh we stay more resilient together, and I feel big connection with the gen community, with the village movement, uh with uh uh different web 3a activities and uh uh foundation who support us.
• 35:58
  SPEAKER_00: And I think that uh we should we should uh uh be in touch, be in connect each other, and uh future is a big micellum for me.
• 36:12
  SPEAKER_00: Uh of connection, a connection and uh experience exchange and uh resources exchange because uh sometimes we lost uh uh location, lost the people or some uh part of our land are in kollapse.
• 36:32
  SPEAKER_00: But uh we stay resilience because we are in big connection in big family.
• 36:41
  SPEAKER_00: And I I hope we can uh this experience give to other uh places in the world who are in in uh in a similar problem.
• 36:59
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, and uh it's it's about that.
• 37:02
  SPEAKER_00: And our this dashboard and everything what we do.
• 37:06
  SPEAKER_00: Uh it's every time it's a voice and a signal that we uh we alive, we uh stay, we stay resilience and we continue to work.
• 37:17
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, and uh if we can, you can too.
• 37:20
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's about that.
• 37:22
  SPEAKER_01: That's amazing, really great.
• 37:24
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, great note to end on.
• 37:25
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, this this whole conversation is really just a great kind of uh case study and like the power of community and tech coming together, you know, and doing really incredible things together.
• 37:35
  SPEAKER_01: So, yeah, this has been a great conversation.
• 37:37
  SPEAKER_01: It must have been really, really exciting for you to fill in that map as you were talking about and seeing that gap and then starting to build it out with your network of eco-villages.
• 37:45
  SPEAKER_01: It must have been really, you know, exciting to see that come to life.
• 37:48
  SPEAKER_01: And you know, it's really amazing seeing that map on your website and seeing the different network that you've built.
• 37:53
  SPEAKER_01: You've built a lot in these past years, so you should be very proud of what you've done.
• 37:57
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and you know, it's it's yeah, I'm very thankful that you took the time to share it with us today.
• 38:02
  SPEAKER_01: So thank you so much for being here.
• 38:04
  SPEAKER_01: For those that are listening in, of course, make sure to check out the show notes.
• 38:07
  SPEAKER_01: We will include all the relevant links there.
• 38:10
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and Maxim, thank you so much for taking the time to be here with us today.
• 38:13
  SPEAKER_01: I really appreciate it.
• 38:15
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, thank you, Drew.
• 38:16
  SPEAKER_00: Uh it was very, very important to tell about our story here.
• 38:23
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, thank you.
• 38:25
  SPEAKER_01: And that was Maxim Zelevsky of Gen Ukraine.
• 38:29
  SPEAKER_01: This was an incredible case study in community resilience.
• 38:32
  SPEAKER_01: Gen Ukraine isn't waiting for the war to end to start rebuilding, they're doing it now.
• 38:36
  SPEAKER_01: Sheltering displaced families, restoring damaged land, installing solar panels, planting trees, and creating new economic models for communities that have lost so much.
• 38:43
  SPEAKER_01: And they're doing it with the level of transparency and coordination that Web3 tools help make possible.
• 38:48
  SPEAKER_01: The partnerships are inspiring.
• 38:50
  SPEAKER_01: Arcrane for tracking solar energy, Sylvian Regen Network for planting trees and land regeneration, Sarathu for commitment pooling, the Eco Impact dashboard that brings it all together, and RegenBank is a way to fund regenerative projects directly.
• 39:01
  SPEAKER_01: It's really like a full stack that they're building out here, and it's really inspiring.
• 39:04
  SPEAKER_01: So, for listeners who want to support Gen Ukraine, donate to their projects or simply learn more about their work, we've included all the relevant links in the show notes.
• 39:11
  SPEAKER_01: You can find their Eco Impact dashboard, their Giveth page, and information about how to get involved and support their work.
• 39:16
  SPEAKER_01: So a huge thank you to Maxim for sharing this work with us today and for helping show the world the good of Web3.
• 39:23
  SPEAKER_01: And that wraps up today's episode of CryptoAltrics.
• 39:26
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• 39:27
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• 39:29
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• 39:44
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• 39:48
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