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Jaguars Happy Hour | Team Overview Ahead of Week 9 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: It is Monday, October twenty seven.
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  Speaker 2: This is Jaguars Happy Hour.
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  Speaker 3: Jaguars Happy Hour is brought you by Jet Home Loans
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  Speaker 3: and now a guy who went to a silent auction
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  Speaker 3: and came home with a dog whistle and two mimes,
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  Speaker 3: Jap Chackmar.
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  Speaker 4: It is Jaguars Happy Hour, our first hour presented by
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  Speaker 4: Jet Home Loans from the Hyundai Studios on ten to XL,
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  Speaker 4: Jaguars dot Com and Jaguars YouTube.
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  Speaker 1: Here's What's coming up presented.
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  Speaker 4: By Deep Eddie Vodka handcrafted with real fruit, proud partner
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  Speaker 4: of the Jacksonville Jaguars. We've got Pete Briscoe and Austin
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  Speaker 4: Lane coming up. The Jaguars beginning the stretch run this week.
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  Speaker 4: Ten games to go after the bye week. Offensive questions
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  Speaker 4: coming out of the by defensive injury updates. The coach
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  Speaker 4: didn't give much today, but they were out there practicing
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  Speaker 4: a little bit, some guys off the side. We'll keep
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  Speaker 4: it real as always. Fan questions on social media and
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  Speaker 4: we'll go around the National Football League. Well, former Jack's
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  Speaker 4: defense been Austin Lane and studio with Think you to
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  Speaker 4: see you.
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  Speaker 1: I think the show for like a month. I know
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  Speaker 1: man we haven't seen each other in a while. It's
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  Speaker 1: been a minute. Peter from South Florida.
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  Speaker 2: You got Wally Pitt last week?
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  Speaker 4: I know, I heard the ratings were through the roof.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean you're not here. Me and Austin are
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  Speaker 5: holding down the ford. I was in there and and
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  Speaker 5: my god.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, what are we doing? I don't know, man, I.
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  Speaker 5: Mean you're Wally gagging all over London having a great
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  Speaker 5: old time and we're actually.
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  Speaker 1: Working jolly old England.
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  Speaker 4: Hey, it's what it was. The flight schedules, you know,
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  Speaker 4: couldn't get back, Pete.
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  Speaker 2: That's what it is, and get on that team plane
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  Speaker 2: JP or JP Shadwick.
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  Speaker 1: Don't they know that I have I just work here, Pete.
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  Speaker 1: Oh so you didn't fight out the team? No? Oh wow, okay, no,
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  Speaker 1: I got flooring with the team. You don't have the show. Yeah, ok,
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  Speaker 1: that's true. That's true. Alas here we.
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  Speaker 2: Are, you're JP.
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  Speaker 1: No, what are we doing?
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  Speaker 6: First class wasn't available on the team planes. That what happened.
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  Speaker 4: My contract says has certain levels and status that we
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  Speaker 4: have to adhere to.
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  Speaker 5: You need to put that contract. You need to be
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  Speaker 5: on the team playing in London. That's what you need
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  Speaker 5: to do.
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  Speaker 4: It's all right, Hey we're back and that we're refreshed
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  Speaker 4: after the bye week. You know, we've self scouted some
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  Speaker 4: things Austin. That's just on this show. So then of
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  Speaker 4: course the team has done the same thing, Pete, And
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  Speaker 4: it's what.
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  Speaker 1: The bye week's about? What? All right?
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  Speaker 4: What is the number one concern or issue going into
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  Speaker 4: the buy that needs to be cleaned up coming out
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  Speaker 4: of the buyos?
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  Speaker 6: You know, I think me and Pete kind of addressed
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  Speaker 6: this on the last Happy Hour show, But I think
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  Speaker 6: it's got to be this offense in Trevor Lawrence, right.
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  Speaker 6: I mean you can break down a lot of things,
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  Speaker 6: the offensive line, the running game and everything, but to me,
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  Speaker 6: it starts with the quarterback, and it starts with the
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  Speaker 6: confidence of the quarterback throwing the football. So I think
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  Speaker 6: in terms of you know it, get to elevate Travis
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  Speaker 6: Hunter to a more prominent role, whatever the case may be,
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  Speaker 6: to give Trevor some more confidence.
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  Speaker 1: But I think that is the major hole right now.
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  Speaker 5: Turn it loose, Turn it loose. You gotta turn it loose.
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  Speaker 5: You can't be afraid to throw interceptions. I mean, you
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  Speaker 5: look at his interception numbers. What are they they're nothing.
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  Speaker 5: Rights isn't thrown. Yeah, And so when you look at
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  Speaker 5: the way he's playing, it's not to win games, is
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  Speaker 5: to play.
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  Speaker 2: It safe, and I don't like that.
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  Speaker 5: And we highlighted a bunch of plays from the game
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  Speaker 5: from the old twenty two last week, and the reality
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  Speaker 5: is there were shots down the field he didn't take,
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  Speaker 5: and there's been shots down the field he hasn't taken
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  Speaker 5: all season.
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  Speaker 4: We've said that from week one there were shots that
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  Speaker 4: he didn't take well.
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  Speaker 2: And in this game there they ran one play down
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  Speaker 2: the field.
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  Speaker 5: They ran post corner routes on both sides, and he
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  Speaker 5: checked it down.
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  Speaker 2: The ball was tipped at the line of scrimmage. The
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  Speaker 2: first play of the game.
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  Speaker 5: He's got Travis Hunter standing there, and that was you know,
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  Speaker 5: I think it was a run pass check if I'm
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  Speaker 5: not mistaken, and he's that's who he's got to throw
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  Speaker 5: it to in that check and he's wide open.
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  Speaker 2: He doesn't even look at him. I don't know what
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  Speaker 2: he was looking at. He looked like he was looking
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  Speaker 2: for Thomas to come open. And that's not the read.
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  Speaker 2: The read is Travis Hunter.
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  Speaker 1: Five yards wide open, five yards down the field. Just
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  Speaker 1: throw it.
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  Speaker 2: On the first play of the game.
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  Speaker 6: But this is also kind of the story I feel
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  Speaker 6: like of this offense right now, where if you watch this,
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  Speaker 6: you know, obviously a guy comes scott free and makes
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  Speaker 6: it difficult on Trevor. But if you have this snap decisiveness,
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  Speaker 6: you make that throw right now, and then we're not
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  Speaker 6: talking about the offensive line, you know, giving up a
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  Speaker 6: sack right So to me, it goes hand in hand
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  Speaker 6: where you have to feel confident in the pocket, you
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  Speaker 6: have to be decisive and you have to make your move.
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  Speaker 5: That was Mcarrey that got beat on that play right
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  Speaker 5: from the get go, if I'm not mistaken, And and
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  Speaker 5: he struggled the last couple of weeks, and if you
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  Speaker 5: hear that, he's banged up a little bit. But again,
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  Speaker 5: you're on the field, you're accountable, and he's just not
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  Speaker 5: playing very well.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think they're gonna make a chain, but he's
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  Speaker 2: not playing very well.
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  Speaker 4: So what it is right now. Of course, we'll dig
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  Speaker 4: into some more of the issues coming up. But as
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  Speaker 4: always around this time, you were closing in on the
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  Speaker 4: trade deadline, so the Jaguars were involved in some of
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  Speaker 4: the rumors over this.
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  Speaker 1: By weekend and.
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  Speaker 2: The rumors, dirty rumors.
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  Speaker 1: Brian sources, Yeah, not really sources.
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  Speaker 4: Brian Thomas Junior was one of those rumors that he
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  Speaker 4: could be on the move. Of course, Liam Cohen today
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  Speaker 4: addressed it and said, no, we are not moving Brian
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  Speaker 4: Thomas Junior, even though he is you know, he's fighting
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  Speaker 4: through and working through some stuff here. So no no
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  Speaker 4: action at least in that department. Now other things. Who
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  Speaker 4: knows what else do they need?
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  Speaker 1: Is the question?
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  Speaker 5: Well, I think that report gets done this way. Somebody
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  Speaker 5: in the league is interested in Brian Thomas and says, hey,
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  Speaker 5: we called on Brian Thomas, and then they put it
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  Speaker 5: out there that the Jaguars were interested in listening on
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  Speaker 5: Brian Thomas.
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  Speaker 2: That's I think happened on that. And the reality is
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  Speaker 2: they're not gonna move Brian tom nor should they.
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  Speaker 5: By the way, he's his second year player. He's not
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  Speaker 5: even halfway through his second season.
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  Speaker 2: We saw potentil.
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  Speaker 5: Star you know ability last year, and you're gonna move
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  Speaker 5: him halfway through his second season.
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  Speaker 2: That would be the dumbest thing you could do. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: don't you need to get out of his bunk?
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  Speaker 1: Right?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, But you don't move you don't give up on him.
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  Speaker 6: Yet do you think and I agree, like this wasn't
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  Speaker 6: James Gladstone a tony of a selling thing. Hey, you know,
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  Speaker 6: like I got a scoop for you guys. You know,
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  Speaker 6: take this and roll with it like that. That didn't
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  Speaker 6: happen that There's no way, but Pete, could you see
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  Speaker 6: in a world was maybe the agent of Brian Thomas
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  Speaker 6: Junior's agent trying to you know, like maybe a team
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  Speaker 6: talked to him and then he he talks to somebody
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  Speaker 6: because like so sometimes the job of an agent is
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  Speaker 6: to make sure that obviously your your player is feeling
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  Speaker 6: you know, the love and everything. And I think in
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  Speaker 6: Jackson right now it has had It's been a hard
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  Speaker 6: matrimony between Brian Thomas Junior and the Jaguars right now.
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  Speaker 6: Whose fault it is we can go back and forth
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  Speaker 6: with that, but like this season, it hasn't been the
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  Speaker 6: best showcase for either side. So could this be a
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  Speaker 6: case of an agent maybe trying to jump up a
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  Speaker 6: little interest, not saying he's trying to move him, but
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  Speaker 6: just get people talking about Brian Thomas Junior in a
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  Speaker 6: different light.
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  Speaker 5: I think it's more of the team the other teams
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  Speaker 5: out there who are interested in him doing it. I mean,
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  Speaker 5: if I'm the Pittsburgh Steelers and I need a wide receiver,
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  Speaker 5: clearly i'd put it out there.
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  Speaker 2: If I'm the Buffalo Bills and I need a wide.
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  Speaker 5: Receiver, I'd put it out there and make it look
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  Speaker 5: like he's available or there's a potential for him to
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  Speaker 5: be available. And I give Liam Cohen credit for shutting
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  Speaker 5: it down right away. No, they're not doing that, and
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  Speaker 5: rightfully so. Now having said that, this kid needs to
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  Speaker 5: start playing like he did a year ago or close
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  Speaker 5: to it, and for whatever reason, and we talked about it.
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  Speaker 2: A lot, it hasn't happened.
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  Speaker 5: He's dropping balls, he doesn't look like he wants to
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  Speaker 5: go over the middle, you know, he doesn't come off
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  Speaker 5: out of the gate very quickly, and it just doesn't
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  Speaker 5: seem to really trust his quarterback.
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  Speaker 2: And I think all that combined has led to the
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  Speaker 2: problems with him.
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  Speaker 5: And then the other part of that equation Austin is
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  Speaker 5: miss were we too high on the kid? Maybe he
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  Speaker 5: just wasn't as good as we all thought he was.
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  Speaker 5: He had drop problems at LSU. He double caught a
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  Speaker 5: lot of balls last year, and so maybe we rushed
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  Speaker 5: to judgment on him, and by the way, I'd be
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  Speaker 5: as guilty as anybody.
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  Speaker 6: No, I mean, I think we all did. But I
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  Speaker 6: think where the intrigue came from last year was his
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  Speaker 6: whole thing out of college was this guy can only
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  Speaker 6: run one route right. He's fast, he's tall, he can
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  Speaker 6: run a go route, go up and get a jump ball,
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  Speaker 6: or just take the top off, and you hit him
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  Speaker 6: on the go route right, and like that was what
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  Speaker 6: he was known for. He comes to Jacksonville and gets
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  Speaker 6: off to a little bit of a slow start. Then
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  Speaker 6: Trevor gets hurt, the mac Jones comes in and all
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  Speaker 6: of a sudden, Okay, this guy can run the route
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  Speaker 6: tree right. So I think maybe one of his biggest
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  Speaker 6: knocks of maybe why he fell and the draft was
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  Speaker 6: to showcase, well, can you run every single route in
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  Speaker 6: the book, And he showed last year that he could.
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  Speaker 6: Now we can go back and watch the film and say, okay, well,
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  Speaker 6: maybe the hands weren't perfect, maybe he did bobble some balls,
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  Speaker 6: but he still caught him. So, like you know, we
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  Speaker 6: kind of lost that in translation. But I think his
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  Speaker 6: biggest knock last year he showcased he can handle. Now
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  Speaker 6: we enter this year and once again expected to run
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  Speaker 6: the entire route tree because you're a wide receiver one.
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  Speaker 6: And for the most part, I think he can still
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  Speaker 6: do that. It's just the fact that you can't catch
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  Speaker 6: the ball.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I don't remember a lot of over the middle short
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  Speaker 4: stuff with him last year though they didn't run a
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  Speaker 4: lot of that, I don't remember. So him having to
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  Speaker 4: go short over the middle in the traffic is kind
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  Speaker 4: of a maybe a little bit of a new thing
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  Speaker 4: for him here.
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  Speaker 5: But he doesn't even catch the fifty to fifty balls. Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: and he has it all summer. He did was a
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  Speaker 5: concern of theirs all summer. He wasn't catching those. I
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  Speaker 5: will tell you during the draft process, one of the
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  Speaker 5: things a couple of scouts of personnel people told me
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  Speaker 5: what told me about him where one year at LSU,
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  Speaker 5: the year before at LSU, he wasn't the hardest working guy,
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  Speaker 5: or he wasn't exactly, And then they saw Neighbors and
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  Speaker 5: he saw the success that neighbors was happening, and neighbors
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  Speaker 5: is a maniac and.
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  Speaker 2: He said, ho, ho, I can be that.
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  Speaker 5: If I do that, And he started doing it. And
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  Speaker 5: when he started doing it, he became a first round pick.
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  Speaker 2: So it's not that he doesn't.
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  Speaker 5: Work, by the way, and you know, we always talk
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  Speaker 5: about this, Austin, he's a willing blocker.
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  Speaker 2: Most wide receivers aren't willing blockers. He'll block.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, there's.
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  Speaker 5: Just some disconnect with the quarterback, and there's some disconnect
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  Speaker 5: with his skill set.
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  Speaker 2: Right now.
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  Speaker 5: He's not catching the ball, he's not using his hands,
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  Speaker 5: he's not winning fifty to fifty balls, he's not running
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  Speaker 5: away from people, he's not playing fast. There's a lot
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  Speaker 5: of things that play here. And I just for the
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  Speaker 5: life of me, I would sit him down and say, look,
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  Speaker 5: this is what you were a year ago.
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  Speaker 2: Back to that. What told you back dude?
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  Speaker 6: Well, I mean, Pete, is this an issue? And I
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  Speaker 6: get the you know, he didn't play a lot last year.
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  Speaker 6: But with Christian Kirk, obviously you had a solid veteran
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  Speaker 6: who had been in the league for a while, who
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  Speaker 6: knows how to be a wide receiver. You know, I
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  Speaker 6: think going into that training camp last year at Brian
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  Speaker 6: Thomas Junior as a rookie, I'm sure Christian Kirk was
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  Speaker 6: a guy that maybe you leaned on a little bit.
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  Speaker 6: Not the same style, but just in terms of how
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  Speaker 6: to go about life in the NFL, Christian kirk Leaves,
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  Speaker 6: there's a lot of hype around you, and now you
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  Speaker 6: go from a guy who was drafted in the first
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  Speaker 6: round where we didn't really know what we're getting with you,
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  Speaker 6: to showcasing your skills and now you're counting on as
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  Speaker 6: the wide receiver one and going to be featured in
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  Speaker 6: this offense. As Liam Cohen said, when he first got here,
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  Speaker 6: so is there a little bit of maybe he wasn't
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  Speaker 6: ready to handle the mantle, the responsibility of being the
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  Speaker 6: go to guy and being the leader of that wide
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  Speaker 6: receiving group going into your second year.
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  Speaker 5: Well, it's also there's a school of thought that being
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  Speaker 5: the number one wide receiver on a bad football team,
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  Speaker 5: when you're playing from behind get a lot of yardage,
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  Speaker 5: is not the same as being that guy. You know,
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  Speaker 5: in this year, he was counted on to be that guy,
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  Speaker 5: and so far he hasn't been that guy, and that
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  Speaker 5: maybe has been a problem for me.
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  Speaker 2: By the way, you mentioned that.
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  Speaker 5: In training, can't be looked around that receiver room a
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  Speaker 5: bunch of kids in there. Yeah, And so I think
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  Speaker 5: Tim Patrick was brought in because Tim Patrick's a pro
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  Speaker 5: and he can help them. The problem with that is
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  Speaker 5: if you're a pro and you're not really doing a lot,
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  Speaker 5: guys look at them and they go, Okay, he's a pro.
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  Speaker 2: He's been a pro, he's done things the right way.
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  Speaker 2: But what does he do when he gets on the field. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: you know what I mean. That's so you know, you
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  Speaker 2: know how this is Austin.
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  Speaker 5: Guys react to production. They react to what you can do.
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  Speaker 5: You can be the greatest leader in the world. You're
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  Speaker 5: not producing, Guys are gonna look at you and go,
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  Speaker 5: what I'm not listening?
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  Speaker 2: He's what I should be following. He gets one catch
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  Speaker 2: every two games.
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  Speaker 1: Right, That's how it goes.
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  Speaker 4: Quick thought on defense as we begin the program, we'll
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  Speaker 4: get back to offense, certainly coming.
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  Speaker 1: Up no takeaways last two weeks.
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  Speaker 4: A little different feel when you don't have Devin Lloyd
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  Speaker 4: out there, Trevon Walker with one hand and they're playing
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  Speaker 4: from behind a lot.
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  Speaker 1: So early leads helped this team early.
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  Speaker 4: So where you know, where are they defensively right now?
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  Speaker 6: I mean I think defensively right now that the biggest
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  Speaker 6: focus has to be on that defensive line and more
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  Speaker 6: specific that interior defensive line.
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  Speaker 1: I think right now if you look at.
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  Speaker 6: The NFL in terms of bie weeks and everything, I
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  Speaker 6: think they're probably like half the teams in the NFL
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  Speaker 6: have had a bye week.
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  Speaker 1: The other half are still waiting to have theirs.
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  Speaker 6: The Jacksonville Jaggars are dead last right now in quarterback sacks,
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  Speaker 6: and I understand, like that's a number that sometimes gets
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  Speaker 6: lost in translation. Right, Like we consider and say, well,
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  Speaker 6: how many socks? How many sacks does josh heinz Allen have? Well,
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  Speaker 6: not that many, right, he hasn't really achieved that. But
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  Speaker 6: at the same time, you can turn on the film
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  Speaker 6: and say, well, he's getting pressures, he's causing turnovers and everything,
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  Speaker 6: he's just not getting quarterback sacks. If you want to
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  Speaker 6: be a playoff caliber team and make a run, you
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  Speaker 6: have to get the quarterback down. It's as simple as that.
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  Speaker 6: If you see the teams right now in the end,
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  Speaker 6: and there's always anomalies, but have you seen the teams
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  Speaker 6: right now that are leading in the category of quarterback sacks?
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  Speaker 6: Those are playoff types of teams. The team's on the
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  Speaker 6: bottom not so much so to me, that's that's the
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  Speaker 6: biggest thing right now.
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  Speaker 1: On defense, It's getting after the quarterback.
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  Speaker 2: No interior pressure at all usually. I mean, that's the problem.
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  Speaker 2: You know.
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  Speaker 5: Hamilton, by the way, I'm gonna say that he's been
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  Speaker 5: actually pretty good the last couple of weeks in the
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  Speaker 5: run game. I think he's played some of his best
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  Speaker 5: football since what happened with his back the last couple
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  Speaker 5: of weeks, but he didn't offer anything as a pass rusher.
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  Speaker 5: Mason Smith is hinted at times with some pass rush
• 14:34
  Speaker 5: the last couple of weeks, but it's not consistent. And
• 14:38
  Speaker 5: you know the other guys in the Blue Moon Armstead.
• 14:41
  Speaker 1: You'll see the Austin Johnson as well sometimes is in there.
• 14:44
  Speaker 5: But yeah, but they're not consistent enough to push the
• 14:46
  Speaker 5: interior of the pocket. And when you don't push the
• 14:48
  Speaker 5: interior of the pocket, you can watch the tape and
• 14:51
  Speaker 5: see Josh Hines Allen getting all kinds of attention on
• 14:54
  Speaker 5: his side, and when Walker's not in there doing his stuff,
• 14:58
  Speaker 5: you can really see it go to the others. He's
• 15:00
  Speaker 5: dealing with two and three sing guys sometimes, and so
• 15:03
  Speaker 5: that adds to the lack of production.
• 15:04
  Speaker 2: I'm with you. You can talk all you want about pressures.
• 15:07
  Speaker 5: They always the analytics guys, well, pressures are more just
• 15:10
  Speaker 5: as important as sacks.
• 15:12
  Speaker 2: No, they're not.
• 15:13
  Speaker 5: There's nothing more demoralizing to an offense than throwing the
• 15:17
  Speaker 5: quarterback on the ground on first down and having him
• 15:20
  Speaker 5: second and twenty nothing. You know, pressure, Oh he pressured
• 15:24
  Speaker 5: him and he threw the ball away. Well, still second
• 15:26
  Speaker 5: and ten. Get him on the ground. They're not getting
• 15:29
  Speaker 5: him on the ground. That demoralized is an offense.
• 15:32
  Speaker 6: I remember, I think this would have been my second
• 15:34
  Speaker 6: year twenty eleven. I remember we played Houston at Houston
• 15:37
  Speaker 6: and that that was the game where where they put
• 15:39
  Speaker 6: up like forty something points. Blackman went off for us
• 15:41
  Speaker 6: on offense and everything. But but I had five quarterback pressures.
• 15:45
  Speaker 6: Wasn't like I was on the poll my agent after
• 15:47
  Speaker 6: that game saying, hey, time to re up. I got
• 15:50
  Speaker 6: five pressures. You know, you've got to tell Gene Smith
• 15:53
  Speaker 6: right now write the contract. Like no, like they can
• 15:56
  Speaker 6: they affect the game?
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: Absolutely? Are you getting paid off quarterback pressures? Absolutely not.
• 16:03
  Speaker 2: But here's the other part of that, Austin.
• 16:04
  Speaker 5: If you were getting five pressures and you were pressuring
• 16:07
  Speaker 5: the quarterback to move and he was moving into somebody
• 16:10
  Speaker 5: else getting him on the ground, then those pressures matter, correct,
• 16:13
  Speaker 5: you know, but where the Josh Hanes Allen's getting pressures
• 16:17
  Speaker 5: and he's not pressuring into anybody else getting sacks, you
• 16:20
  Speaker 5: know what I mean.
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: So it's it's not working.
• 16:22
  Speaker 4: They pressured into some arrant throws early in the season
• 16:25
  Speaker 4: that were picked off on the back end. There's some
• 16:27
  Speaker 4: of that, but then that's gone away too.
• 16:30
  Speaker 5: So right, they haven't taken the ball away and sometimes
• 16:33
  Speaker 5: we talked about this last week, JP, sometimes when you
• 16:36
  Speaker 5: take the ball away and master your inefficiencies on defense.
• 16:39
  Speaker 4: Hmmm. Oh, we'll dig deeper into this a little bit more.
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: I should have watched the replay last week to see
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: watching the film. Wasn't trying to get back watching it.
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: I was busy walking around London.
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: I'm sure you were. I don't know. If you were walking,
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: you might have been crawling.
• 16:57
  Speaker 4: We're back in a moment. That's enough out of you
• 17:00
  Speaker 4: for now, Pete. We'll get back into this offense and
• 17:04
  Speaker 4: catching the football.
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: That's an important piece of what they do.
• 17:07
  Speaker 4: And Travis Hunter, how much more can they use of
• 17:10
  Speaker 4: him in this offense? Moving ahead and trying to get
• 17:12
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• 17:36
  Speaker 7: You look at the end of the last game against
• 17:39
  Speaker 7: the Rams with he and Trevor building on a connection
• 17:42
  Speaker 7: and making some plays towards the end of the game.
• 17:45
  Speaker 7: Obviously it was a lot of reach at the time,
• 17:47
  Speaker 7: but you're still seeing competitive throws and catches in live action,
• 17:53
  Speaker 7: which is something we've needed. So, you know, you definitely
• 17:57
  Speaker 7: look at how much more can he hand, how much
• 18:01
  Speaker 7: more can we put him in a position to be
• 18:04
  Speaker 7: successful on both offense and defense, and what does that
• 18:07
  Speaker 7: look like. So it definitely gave us an opportunity as
• 18:10
  Speaker 7: a staff to look at how we can continue to
• 18:14
  Speaker 7: use him.
• 18:15
  Speaker 4: Hey, coach Liam Colell, hear more from him coming up
• 18:17
  Speaker 4: and the full press conference at Jaguars dot Com discussing
• 18:21
  Speaker 4: Travis Hunter and his usage moving forward.
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: Welcome back.
• 18:24
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• 18:27
  Speaker 4: ten to Xlam, Jaguars dot Com, Jaguars YouTube JP, Shadrick,
• 18:30
  Speaker 4: Austin Lane and Pete Prisco. The band is back together,
• 18:35
  Speaker 4: and the Jaguars this week head to Las Vegas to
• 18:38
  Speaker 4: face the Raiders. Travis Hunter in that game at Wimbley
• 18:42
  Speaker 4: against the Rams fourteen targets, eight catches, one hundred one yards,
• 18:45
  Speaker 4: and his first career touchdown, all as Liam Cohen said,
• 18:48
  Speaker 4: when the game was out of hand and out of reach.
• 18:51
  Speaker 4: But you know it's starting to trend that way. You
• 18:54
  Speaker 4: got to keep feeding him the football a little bit more.
• 18:57
  Speaker 4: When he has it in his hands, he's dynamic. They've
• 18:59
  Speaker 4: just find some plays to him that haven't been thrown
• 19:02
  Speaker 4: to him. We touched on that. But how much more
• 19:04
  Speaker 4: can he handle? Starting on offense, We'll get the defense
• 19:07
  Speaker 4: coming up.
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: I think he's gonna have to handle more.
• 19:10
  Speaker 6: I think going forward right now until proven otherwise, Travis
• 19:13
  Speaker 6: Hunter is your wide receiver one because every time the
• 19:16
  Speaker 6: ball's in his hand, good things happen. And I think
• 19:19
  Speaker 6: he hasn't shown you yet a reason not to trust
• 19:21
  Speaker 6: him now. Obviously getting mined up properly, the motions and
• 19:24
  Speaker 6: things like that, that has to get cleaned up. And
• 19:26
  Speaker 6: I think the more time he spends this offense, that
• 19:28
  Speaker 6: will be cleaned up. But it's apparent to me that
• 19:31
  Speaker 6: this is your wide receiver one going forward, this is
• 19:33
  Speaker 6: gonna be the guy that's gonna help out Trevor Lawrence,
• 19:36
  Speaker 6: I think, and give him a new sense of confidence.
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: I agree with you one hundred percent. It's his offense.
• 19:41
  Speaker 5: Now build it around him getting the ball. I love
• 19:43
  Speaker 5: this play getting them down the field.
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: They we haven't seen much of that. You know, a
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: lot of quick.
• 19:47
  Speaker 5: Stuff with him getting him in some one on one situations.
• 19:50
  Speaker 5: It's hard to cover him in one on one situations.
• 19:52
  Speaker 5: He's fluid, he knows how to run, and you're right,
• 19:55
  Speaker 5: the lining up and all that. The presnap penalties, he's
• 19:58
  Speaker 5: got to be better with that, as do a lot
• 20:00
  Speaker 5: lot of guys. But he's the now, he's the number
• 20:02
  Speaker 5: one offense and going forward, I think he will be
• 20:04
  Speaker 5: the focal point of the offense. But having said that,
• 20:07
  Speaker 5: and you said we'll talk about the defense later, I
• 20:10
  Speaker 5: think he should be playing more corner too.
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: Do both just play it all, Just go play.
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: It all, play it all. He's their best corner. He's
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: the best. He's their best receiver.
• 20:19
  Speaker 5: And I don't think there's any question when he plays
• 20:21
  Speaker 5: corner and he covers a guy and man the man,
• 20:24
  Speaker 5: he's damn good at it, so so why not play
• 20:29
  Speaker 5: him at both? All we'd heard all offseason was always
• 20:32
  Speaker 5: gonna play both?
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: Was so far he hasn't played both. Well, now's that.
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: Now you're it after the bye week.
• 20:38
  Speaker 5: Now's the time he has to be on the field
• 20:41
  Speaker 5: playing both. Starting corner, starting wide receiver, number one wide receiver,
• 20:47
  Speaker 5: number one corner.
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: That's who he is.
• 20:49
  Speaker 6: To kind of echo what Pete was saying about this defense,
• 20:52
  Speaker 6: where when you get turnovers that can mask a lot
• 20:54
  Speaker 6: of things, I think the same thing can be said
• 20:56
  Speaker 6: when you're winning football games. I think it masked a
• 20:58
  Speaker 6: little bit of what Travis Hunter was doing right because, okay,
• 21:01
  Speaker 6: this is your first round pick. You give up another pick,
• 21:03
  Speaker 6: another first round pick next year to get this guy.
• 21:06
  Speaker 6: And granted, maybe he hasn't been the most productive in
• 21:08
  Speaker 6: terms of an offense, but you're running football game, so
• 21:10
  Speaker 6: it was an issue. Now we see, okay, well this
• 21:13
  Speaker 6: offense is stagnant, this defense is giving up some big plays.
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: You have to use them on both sides of the ball.
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: But before you had the luxury of saying, okay, we're
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: winning football games. This is a marathon, not a sprint.
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: As long as we're winning, let's let's keep them under
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: raps a little bit. Let's slowly bring them along. Well,
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: you've lost two games now. In those two games that.
• 21:30
  Speaker 6: You've lost, they weren't your best showing, and now you
• 21:32
  Speaker 6: I think this is a must win game against the Raiders. Win,
• 21:35
  Speaker 6: must win, must after a bye week, especially against the
• 21:39
  Speaker 6: team that you're supposed to be.
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: This is a must win game, I think for the.
• 21:43
  Speaker 6: Morale in that locker room, but also for in terms
• 21:46
  Speaker 6: of wanting to go to the playoffs.
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: You gotta beat the Raiders.
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't want to.
• 21:51
  Speaker 5: Here we go again, crap promiate in that locker room.
• 21:54
  Speaker 5: And so I'm in agreement with Austin on that. I
• 21:56
  Speaker 5: think this is definitely a must win. But back to
• 21:59
  Speaker 5: Travis Hunter, when you look at it on the grand
• 22:02
  Speaker 5: big you know, the big picture, you could have drafted
• 22:07
  Speaker 5: a wide receiver in that spot, Pat McMillan, Abuka or
• 22:11
  Speaker 5: whatever they would have been starting.
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: You would have been happy with him.
• 22:14
  Speaker 5: They would have been a good player, and you still
• 22:16
  Speaker 5: would have had your pick next year if you wanted
• 22:18
  Speaker 5: to draft a cornerback high corner, and they both would
• 22:23
  Speaker 5: in two years. Next year, they both would have been
• 22:25
  Speaker 5: started playing one will play corner, one will play wide receiver. Well,
• 22:29
  Speaker 5: you opted to go get a guy who is a unicorn,
• 22:33
  Speaker 5: as he calls himself, because you gave up those picks
• 22:37
  Speaker 5: to do it. Well, now he's got to play both.
• 22:40
  Speaker 5: Enough with the charades, it's over. He's the number one
• 22:43
  Speaker 5: wide receiver, he's the number one corner. He wants to
• 22:46
  Speaker 5: play both. He thinks he can play both. He showed
• 22:49
  Speaker 5: he could play both.
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: Go play both. Don't take him out not play.
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: I agree with you, Pete.
• 22:55
  Speaker 6: But also the argument's going to be, well, they weren't
• 22:57
  Speaker 6: asking for a corner at all during this past season.
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: Is draft right?
• 23:01
  Speaker 6: Like everyone said, okay, wide receiver, possibly, defensive tackle possibly,
• 23:04
  Speaker 6: But I didn't see a lot of people were reporting
• 23:06
  Speaker 6: that Jay was another cornerback because well they had Tyson
• 23:09
  Speaker 6: Campbell at the time. I think we all thought Tyson
• 23:11
  Speaker 6: Campbell could take a step forward.
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: One on the other side.
• 23:15
  Speaker 6: Well, I mean you bring in Lewis, which I thought,
• 23:18
  Speaker 6: you know, free agency, Yeah, make a corner, but like I.
• 23:22
  Speaker 4: Think Jorian might take a step at least.
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: I was pretty comfortable there.
• 23:27
  Speaker 6: I knew, Okay, if you get Travis Hunter, yeah we'll
• 23:29
  Speaker 6: see how he fits in on that defense and everything.
• 23:31
  Speaker 6: But people were expecting, I think a lot more from
• 23:34
  Speaker 6: Tyson Campbell and he didn't deliver. He gets traded away
• 23:37
  Speaker 6: and now we'll see what Newsom can do. But nobody
• 23:39
  Speaker 6: was really clamoring for that first round cornerback in last
• 23:42
  Speaker 6: year's you know, in this past season's draft, it was
• 23:44
  Speaker 6: all about wide receiver. Now I agree with you, though,
• 23:46
  Speaker 6: When if you're James Gladstone and one of the first
• 23:49
  Speaker 6: things you say about your first round pick is he's
• 23:52
  Speaker 6: going to change the game. You gotta change the game.
• 23:55
  Speaker 4: Was that going to change the game sitting on the
• 23:56
  Speaker 4: bench on defense?
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah? Right?
• 23:58
  Speaker 5: I mean if I deal scenario right now, their cornerback positions.
• 24:04
  Speaker 5: You take the field starting cornerback, he's playing outside, Lewis
• 24:10
  Speaker 5: is playing the inside, and Newsom's playing outside. That's their
• 24:14
  Speaker 5: ideal scenario right there. That's what they should play. Just
• 24:18
  Speaker 5: play it that way.
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: I mean, you have, okay, you what's your other option?
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: Play Jones?
• 24:25
  Speaker 5: Play Monterrek Brown and look, Monterrek Brown fights, fights and battles.
• 24:29
  Speaker 5: I love the way the kid plays, but he's limited.
• 24:31
  Speaker 5: He doesn't run very well, and so there's a limit there.
• 24:35
  Speaker 5: And by the way, you have a safety in the
• 24:36
  Speaker 5: middle of the field doesn't run at all, and so
• 24:38
  Speaker 5: you know that's a problem when you have two guys
• 24:40
  Speaker 5: that don't run that well. And that's why I think
• 24:42
  Speaker 5: Travis Hunter needs to be on the field you need.
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: If you play.
• 24:45
  Speaker 5: Travis Hunter, you could play man the man in some
• 24:48
  Speaker 5: situations on that side of the field. You can bring
• 24:51
  Speaker 5: Winger down because he should be down more than he
• 24:54
  Speaker 5: should be in the middle of the field.
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: And then you could.
• 24:56
  Speaker 5: Play Murray in the middle of the field and you
• 24:59
  Speaker 5: could on the other side. That's what he gives you.
• 25:02
  Speaker 5: You know, Lewis could cover Manda Man. He could cover
• 25:05
  Speaker 5: Manda Man.
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: Those two guys give you and any help on the
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: other side, new someone needs help. I just think they
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: need to let him play both.
• 25:12
  Speaker 5: And now is the time you play him every snap
• 25:15
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• 26:04
  Speaker 7: Pass rush and coverage in terms of limiting explosives, but
• 26:09
  Speaker 7: also getting home a little bit more as well. So
• 26:12
  Speaker 7: you look at all those things and so much of
• 26:14
  Speaker 7: it goes into it. These guys did a lot of
• 26:16
  Speaker 7: work as a staff from a report and communicating that
• 26:20
  Speaker 7: now to the players and some of those things that
• 26:23
  Speaker 7: you want to end up getting maybe tweaked, but we're
• 26:25
  Speaker 7: not going to go and reinvent the wheel.
• 26:28
  Speaker 4: Se Liam Cohen, Jaguars head coach, coming out of the
• 26:30
  Speaker 4: bye week, met with a media earlier today and welcome back.
• 26:33
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• 26:36
  Speaker 4: from the Hyundai Studios the Middle of Electric Center, JP
• 26:38
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• 26:42
  Speaker 4: after the bye week the Jaguars head to Vegas. Four
• 26:45
  Speaker 4: out of the next five games are on the road
• 26:47
  Speaker 4: for the Jaguars. That happens with the London part of
• 26:51
  Speaker 4: the schedule sometimes when you have some home games, including
• 26:54
  Speaker 4: that one lumped together. This will be the long road
• 26:57
  Speaker 4: trip portion month month and a half or so for
• 27:01
  Speaker 4: the Jags coming up. And he was talking about defense
• 27:03
  Speaker 4: there and you said it earlier takeaways might mask some
• 27:07
  Speaker 4: of the issues that the Jaguars were having on defense.
• 27:10
  Speaker 4: We talked a little bit about that and Liam Cohen
• 27:12
  Speaker 4: mentioned it there. Pass rush could get home a little
• 27:15
  Speaker 4: bit more. What else on defense? Do you need to
• 27:19
  Speaker 4: see more out of this group?
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: Like?
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: What what?
• 27:23
  Speaker 4: But beyond the pass rush? Yeah, like what is what
• 27:26
  Speaker 4: are they missing?
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: See?
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: I mean I think we talked about.
• 27:29
  Speaker 4: I'm missing there. They've had a good year. I think,
• 27:31
  Speaker 4: oh no, no, for sure.
• 27:32
  Speaker 6: I think we talk about a defense like are they
• 27:34
  Speaker 6: physical and they have the right attitude right, And I
• 27:37
  Speaker 6: think when you have those those phrases, you look strictly
• 27:42
  Speaker 6: at what can they stop the run? I think they've
• 27:44
  Speaker 6: done a pretty dang good job of stopping the run,
• 27:47
  Speaker 6: So that's not an issue like last year that was
• 27:48
  Speaker 6: an issue, right, this year, it seems to be that
• 27:51
  Speaker 6: they know what they're doing there in the trenches, so
• 27:53
  Speaker 6: like that's not the issue. So I think that the
• 27:55
  Speaker 6: back part of it's got to be communication and it's
• 27:57
  Speaker 6: got to be giving up the big plays. Because if
• 27:59
  Speaker 6: you look at like that Rams game, and we talked
• 28:02
  Speaker 6: about this with me and p and everything, like, that
• 28:04
  Speaker 6: game could have been a lot worse than what it was, right, Like,
• 28:06
  Speaker 6: I think I think Sean McVay not saying took it
• 28:09
  Speaker 6: easy because you know, it's the NFL.
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: Everyone's got to do their thing.
• 28:12
  Speaker 6: But like, I think they could have threw the kitchen
• 28:14
  Speaker 6: sink a little more and it could have been a
• 28:16
  Speaker 6: fifty burger. On this defense, they were just they were
• 28:19
  Speaker 6: that in tuned and the defense was just giving up
• 28:21
  Speaker 6: too much when.
• 28:21
  Speaker 4: They came up in thirteen personnel to start the game,
• 28:24
  Speaker 4: and every run in three tight ends at I'm ben
• 28:25
  Speaker 4: throwing it to all of them.
• 28:26
  Speaker 6: I mean, but you know, when there's a minute left
• 28:29
  Speaker 6: in the half and you get a nine yard game
• 28:31
  Speaker 6: and then you chose to take a knee.
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: Let it go right, that doesn't happen.
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that was almost the mercy knee. Ye, Like the
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: old Lions in nineteen ninety five, did do it when it.
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: Was stick to somebody else?
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: You know, you're playing video games that jp.
• 28:45
  Speaker 4: T something else. So all right, that's one. Yeah, what
• 28:49
  Speaker 4: about it, Pete, what do you think?
• 28:50
  Speaker 5: Well, the secondary has had a lot of bus and
• 28:56
  Speaker 5: you know it was when Campbell was here, he had
• 28:58
  Speaker 5: some boss when you.
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: Know, getting winger the last two weeks.
• 29:02
  Speaker 5: Look, you remember I I praised him early in the
• 29:05
  Speaker 5: season as one of the most improved players on the team.
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: Well, the last two weeks he's been one of the worst.
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: He doesn't right, he's limited, and so they got to
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: do a better job of hiding them.
• 29:16
  Speaker 5: You know, you look at these plays and this one,
• 29:20
  Speaker 5: that one was not a penalty, but that.
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: Was a trouble call. But we could we could show
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: his plays where the tight end ran by.
• 29:28
  Speaker 5: Him a couple of different times where I mean, he
• 29:31
  Speaker 5: can't allow that to happen.
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: I mean, look and for it, yeah, for him to
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: be wide open. That was another penalty.
• 29:37
  Speaker 6: But then there's another play where he gets kind of
• 29:39
  Speaker 6: brought up a little too much, thinks it's going to
• 29:41
  Speaker 6: be a run.
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: I mean, the tight end goes right by him in
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: the pass and he doesn't have happened the week before.
• 29:47
  Speaker 5: To remember, they got him in the week Seattle got
• 29:50
  Speaker 5: him with the tight end on the on the on
• 29:52
  Speaker 5: the over. So look, the bottom line is, we know
• 29:56
  Speaker 5: he's limited. That's it's just who he is. I mean,
• 29:59
  Speaker 5: he plays hall. He's a good player near the line
• 30:02
  Speaker 5: of scrimmage. He's a good blitzer when they blitz him.
• 30:05
  Speaker 5: He's a good solid run player. But he's limited athletically.
• 30:09
  Speaker 5: And when you're limited, that shows up and they attack him.
• 30:12
  Speaker 5: They've attacked him, Let's be real, that's what they've done.
• 30:15
  Speaker 5: They've isolated him and they've attacked him a little bit.
• 30:17
  Speaker 5: So I think that's one.
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: Of the bigger concerns on the back end.
• 30:22
  Speaker 5: And you know, where's Murray because Murray looked dinged up
• 30:26
  Speaker 5: in that game.
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: You know, he looked like he got a little dingdonite.
• 30:29
  Speaker 4: He was one that in the open media time today
• 30:32
  Speaker 4: was not out there either. So whatever that means would
• 30:35
  Speaker 4: add there will not be an official injury report today
• 30:38
  Speaker 4: that'll begin on Wednesday this week.
• 30:39
  Speaker 5: But there was Antonio Johnson in that spot.
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: He was out there today at least in the.
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: Open but he would be the one that would probably go.
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: Into the lineup, that's my guess. Yeah.
• 30:49
  Speaker 5: Yeah, See this goes back to preseason when they lost
• 30:53
  Speaker 5: the rookie because they thought he might be starting.
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: Killing.
• 30:57
  Speaker 5: Yeah, they thought Ransom might be starting, and you lose
• 31:01
  Speaker 5: him and then wingerd starts.
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: Out and plays well and then hadn't played as well.
• 31:06
  Speaker 5: And now with Murray, if Murray can't play, then you
• 31:09
  Speaker 5: got concerns there and Antonio Johnson has to go in.
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: So yeah, there's there's.
• 31:13
  Speaker 5: Concerns at that and Savage they said packing because he
• 31:16
  Speaker 5: was playing in concrete.
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: But that's a whole other issue, right.
• 31:20
  Speaker 4: Certainly on the defensive side, Devin Lloyd not in there
• 31:23
  Speaker 4: after the impact he had made early in the season.
• 31:25
  Speaker 4: That changed some things in the last couple of weeks.
• 31:28
  Speaker 4: And then we already talked about Treyvon Walker with the
• 31:30
  Speaker 4: one hand, Lloyd was off to the side in the
• 31:32
  Speaker 4: open media time today working with athletic trainers. I believe
• 31:36
  Speaker 4: Treyvon Walker was out there at the time we were there,
• 31:38
  Speaker 4: which is a good sign. But we'll see what happens
• 31:41
  Speaker 4: because with a calf injury, I mean that thing, you
• 31:44
  Speaker 4: just don't know and you can't take any chances with her.
• 31:47
  Speaker 6: Yeah, and they're definitely missing him too, because we want
• 31:49
  Speaker 6: to talk about interior pressure and everything, like they've been
• 31:52
  Speaker 6: diving up some great blitzes with Devin Lloyd.
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: You know, I've seen him around a couple of games.
• 31:57
  Speaker 6: He ran with Trayvon Walker, Trevon Walker got home and
• 32:01
  Speaker 6: that's what he does well, right, That's what this defense
• 32:03
  Speaker 6: has to be about. We just talked about Dewey and
• 32:05
  Speaker 6: everything playing on the back end, Like, you know, I
• 32:08
  Speaker 6: think what Dewey does well is he does well stack
• 32:10
  Speaker 6: in the box and playing physical, right, Like, That's that's
• 32:13
  Speaker 6: what he does. That's his game. What Devin Lloyd does
• 32:16
  Speaker 6: well is this guy's not afraid to blitz. He's not
• 32:18
  Speaker 6: afraid to show off some pass rush moves. And he's
• 32:20
  Speaker 6: done a commendable job in terms of pass coverage as well,
• 32:24
  Speaker 6: being in the right spot at the right time and
• 32:26
  Speaker 6: making good on those interceptions and everything.
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: Now, not thirty yards down the field, but he was
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: last year. That's the difference. Yeah, Yeah, exactly, he's been better.
• 32:34
  Speaker 5: He's been a better player this year that he's been,
• 32:37
  Speaker 5: no question about it.
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: But I'll say this, he still doesn't play the run.
• 32:41
  Speaker 5: As well as Miller's better against the run. I mean,
• 32:45
  Speaker 5: I think and even in the Chiefs game, Lloyd made
• 32:49
  Speaker 5: that play, but it wasn't a great game by him, you.
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: Know what I mean. But he's he's better than he was.
• 32:56
  Speaker 5: But I think we you know, I think people got
• 32:58
  Speaker 5: to slow the role on defensive played in the ear
• 33:00
  Speaker 5: and all that stuff was pace.
• 33:02
  Speaker 6: So Pete, the numbers are going to speak for themselves, Ryan,
• 33:05
  Speaker 6: like whether or not. Like, Okay, there's a bad throw
• 33:07
  Speaker 6: by the quarterback.
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: He's still he's been good.
• 33:10
  Speaker 5: But but you know, come on, Miles Garrett had five
• 33:13
  Speaker 5: sacks yesterday, winning Defensive Player of.
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: The Year over that guy. So I mean, but he's
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: been good.
• 33:19
  Speaker 5: He's been better, but he's still not great to get
• 33:21
  Speaker 5: He's still not a great run player.
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: He's you know, he's a.
• 33:26
  Speaker 5: Benro Miller played the run good the other day when
• 33:28
  Speaker 5: he played he played the run well, I thought, And
• 33:32
  Speaker 5: and they you know, if they had a comblo of
• 33:34
  Speaker 5: the two of them, the hell of a flair, right,
• 33:38
  Speaker 5: you could get Devin Lloyd and ventrom Miller together, Boy,
• 33:41
  Speaker 5: that would be a run thumper and a guy who
• 33:43
  Speaker 5: could call you know, run and chase and blitz. That
• 33:46
  Speaker 5: would be a perfect linebacker, but that's not who they are.
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: Could build a player.
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: Him there.
• 33:53
  Speaker 5: I don't think not having Devin Lloyd in there hurts
• 33:56
  Speaker 5: him as much as having a club on Trayvon Walker's arm.
• 33:59
  Speaker 4: Okay, the one armed the one armed defensive end. That's
• 34:02
  Speaker 4: a tough one.
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: H he's a shell of himself.
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's you. You have one hand. I mean,
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: you do one hand with anything.
• 34:09
  Speaker 6: It can be difficult, especially play in a professional football game.
• 34:12
  Speaker 5: You know, and you play you played in so talk
• 34:15
  Speaker 5: us through what what's that mean?
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: Where you have one here?
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: So the only time I've had to use a club
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: was in college.
• 34:20
  Speaker 6: That was my sophomore year, had some tendon issues in
• 34:22
  Speaker 6: my thumb, had a club it up and everything.
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: And yeah, I mean you're you're essentially you're a.
• 34:26
  Speaker 6: Shell of yourself because it's so ingrained in you as
• 34:28
  Speaker 6: a defensive lineman, hand placement, hand violence, ripping, shedding, all
• 34:33
  Speaker 6: this stuff.
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: When you put a club on, that goes out the window.
• 34:37
  Speaker 6: So it's almost like you're learning how to play the
• 34:39
  Speaker 6: position over again what you've been ingrained in yourself since
• 34:43
  Speaker 6: you're in Pop Warner, Like you learn how to like
• 34:46
  Speaker 6: walk again basically, So yeah, it's it's obviously I think
• 34:49
  Speaker 6: it's hampering him a little bit. I was optimistic because
• 34:53
  Speaker 6: he does possess power, and when you have when you're
• 34:55
  Speaker 6: a power rusher, I feel like the club can be
• 34:57
  Speaker 6: a little beneficial as opposed to like working all these
• 34:59
  Speaker 6: different kind of moves and everything. But you are seeing
• 35:02
  Speaker 6: like he's he's not the same type of player at
• 35:04
  Speaker 6: that club.
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: On yeah and back.
• 35:07
  Speaker 5: You know, twenty years, twenty five, thirty years ago, he
• 35:09
  Speaker 5: would have been able to use that club to hit
• 35:11
  Speaker 5: somebody across the head and get in rushed to pass.
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: So you can't do that anymore either. But you know,
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: like he looped on one play and still got a little.
• 35:18
  Speaker 5: Power, and you show you saw his power. But once
• 35:21
  Speaker 5: he got there with the power, normally he'd be able
• 35:24
  Speaker 5: to get a guy off of him. But he doesn't
• 35:26
  Speaker 5: have that hand to do it, and so that's a problem.
• 35:28
  Speaker 6: Well, and I think a question you could ask then
• 35:30
  Speaker 6: if he's having trouble on the edge of generating a
• 35:32
  Speaker 6: pass rush move to get home.
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: I always felt like.
• 35:35
  Speaker 6: Guys with clubs they did it a lot better playing
• 35:37
  Speaker 6: a three technique or nose. Just the action happens that
• 35:40
  Speaker 6: much quicker, you can get around a little easier as
• 35:43
  Speaker 6: opposed to a three step drop where it's one thousand
• 35:45
  Speaker 6: and one, one thousand and two, one thousand. Okay, pass
• 35:47
  Speaker 6: rush move when you're playing defensive tackle, it happens quicker.
• 35:51
  Speaker 6: So could you in theory use his speed, use his athleticism.
• 35:56
  Speaker 6: Hopefully he can turn his hips around and just you know,
• 35:57
  Speaker 6: hit a rip move or something and then get after
• 36:00
  Speaker 6: the quarterback because I feel like, go ahead, Yeah, we.
• 36:03
  Speaker 5: Thought he could play inside there on certain downs anyways,
• 36:06
  Speaker 5: and he's big enough, he's powerful enough, he could do that.
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: I'm not against that. I think you're onto something. You
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: gotta get him on the field because he's one of
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: the few guys that can push the pocket.
• 36:16
  Speaker 4: Right elite player club if you put him in the
• 36:19
  Speaker 4: right spot. Certainly we got plenty of head We're back
• 36:22
  Speaker 4: in a moment AFC South and.
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: The kicking game. Some questions there over the last few weeks.
• 36:30
  Speaker 4: Another miss from Cam Little will get dig into that
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• 37:12
  Speaker 4: Keeping it real, we'll go around the National Football League
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  Speaker 4: as well. Let's get some special team thoughts as we're
• 37:19
  Speaker 4: going through kind of each each side of the football here.
• 37:22
  Speaker 4: Coming out of the bye week, Self Scout the Happy
• 37:24
  Speaker 4: Hour Self Scout Edition field goal kicking. Another miss in
• 37:29
  Speaker 4: London for Cam Little is fourth miss of the season.
• 37:32
  Speaker 4: I think that's tied for the second most of any
• 37:35
  Speaker 4: kicker in the NFL. They said they're not bringing anybody
• 37:38
  Speaker 4: in to compete. They're gonna go with Cam. That's what
• 37:40
  Speaker 4: it is, Pete.
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: But just miss this week, and I guarantee you they're
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: bringing somebody here.
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: I think, so huh.
• 37:46
  Speaker 4: I know your mantra with kickers all the time is
• 37:48
  Speaker 4: just make your damn kicks.
• 37:50
  Speaker 5: Right, But I get I get why you're reluctant to
• 37:55
  Speaker 5: make a change.
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: The kid has an enormous leg, and so you see
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: the potential there.
• 38:00
  Speaker 5: And by the way, we've seen this play out all
• 38:02
  Speaker 5: across the league.
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: Over the course of history.
• 38:05
  Speaker 5: A guy has a big leg, This is a couple
• 38:06
  Speaker 5: of kicks, team sends a packing. Next thing, you know,
• 38:09
  Speaker 5: he ends up on another team and he's a good kicker.
• 38:12
  Speaker 5: I mean, Jason.
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: Myers say the same thing, absolutely.
• 38:16
  Speaker 5: And remember when Lambeau came from the Chargers. He had
• 38:19
  Speaker 5: a good year for Jacksonville that one year and he
• 38:21
  Speaker 5: was going bad in.
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: With the Chargers. So it's happened before, so you're reluctant
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: to do it.
• 38:28
  Speaker 5: But you go to Vegas this week and he yanks
• 38:31
  Speaker 5: an extra point or misses a field goal, then I
• 38:34
  Speaker 5: think you got to bring somebody in.
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: And I think he you know, And we talked about this.
• 38:38
  Speaker 5: Last week Austin about how the seventy yard field.
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: Goal might have been the curse and the blessing.
• 38:46
  Speaker 5: It's great he made one, didn't count, didn't count at all,
• 38:50
  Speaker 5: but he got the ball in Canton. But now everybody
• 38:53
  Speaker 5: automatically assumes he's going out there to the bang home
• 38:55
  Speaker 5: sixty yarders. Fifty five yards with regularity and he's not
• 38:58
  Speaker 5: doing it. So I think this is a big week
• 39:01
  Speaker 5: for one Cam Little. And by the way you talk
• 39:04
  Speaker 5: special teams, the punter had been very good either.
• 39:07
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he's usually a little more you know, accurate down
• 39:12
  Speaker 4: getting him inside the ten yard line and that hasn't happened.
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: A lot, so, you know, without a doubt.
• 39:19
  Speaker 6: So with Cam Little, I am a little surprised that
• 39:22
  Speaker 6: they didn't bring somebody just for competition, right, because if
• 39:26
  Speaker 6: you go to that Rams game when it's fourth and seven,
• 39:29
  Speaker 6: they had an opportunity to get points with the field
• 39:31
  Speaker 6: goal and they opted to go for it. Now, you know,
• 39:35
  Speaker 6: Liam Cogan said that was always the plan to go
• 39:37
  Speaker 6: for it with Trevor, but I don't think that was
• 39:38
  Speaker 6: the case. I think you had a kicker right now
• 39:40
  Speaker 6: who isn't very confident and you're trying to make up
• 39:42
  Speaker 6: for it, and you're trying to do him a service
• 39:45
  Speaker 6: by not putting him back out there when he's not confident, right,
• 39:47
  Speaker 6: because if you keep on kicking and it keeps going bad,
• 39:50
  Speaker 6: you just dig yourself deeper and deeper. At some point, though,
• 39:53
  Speaker 6: he has to get out of it, and at some
• 39:54
  Speaker 6: point you're not going to be able to rely on
• 39:58
  Speaker 6: your offense to convert first down because let's be honest,
• 40:00
  Speaker 6: that doesn't look great right now. So if you have
• 40:03
  Speaker 6: to get points and you're gonna be playing it in
• 40:04
  Speaker 6: close games like say the Raiders, or say that the
• 40:07
  Speaker 6: Charters coming a town a couple weeks, that'll be a
• 40:08
  Speaker 6: huge game.
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it may be a three point game.
• 40:12
  Speaker 6: You can't revolve your offense and your philosophy around Well,
• 40:16
  Speaker 6: let's just make sure Cam Little is confident enough now
• 40:18
  Speaker 6: that he can make this right, Like, let's help him out.
• 40:20
  Speaker 6: Like you can't have a football team like that, Like
• 40:23
  Speaker 6: you have a job to do. You have to make
• 40:25
  Speaker 6: your kicks and either you can make them or you can't.
• 40:27
  Speaker 6: But I'm not opposed to bring a competition in because
• 40:30
  Speaker 6: I think James Gladstone said it like every week's in
• 40:33
  Speaker 6: evaluation and if someone doesn't fit this scheme, if someone's
• 40:35
  Speaker 6: not up to the standard, they'll bring somebody else in.
• 40:39
  Speaker 6: So why Cam Little got a pass? Maybe because he
• 40:42
  Speaker 6: had a seventy yarder and they're like, Okay, let's let's
• 40:44
  Speaker 6: invest in this guy a little more. That might be
• 40:46
  Speaker 6: the case, but at some point you gotta go hey,
• 40:49
  Speaker 6: let's have a competition here.
• 40:51
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm with you, femises this week it is there's
• 40:54
  Speaker 5: no doubt that they have to bring somebody in next week.
• 40:57
  Speaker 5: But here's the other part of it. Not like good
• 41:00
  Speaker 5: kickers are just sitting out there.
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: It's at least they say that.
• 41:04
  Speaker 5: And I'm a big believer. You can find kickers. You
• 41:06
  Speaker 5: can find them, you know, and just hope you get
• 41:08
  Speaker 5: one that gets hot. You know what I mean, You
• 41:10
  Speaker 5: just hope you get one that gets hot.
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: JP. Did you look up the putting stats because his
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: numbers are down too.
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 41:16
  Speaker 4: Logan Cook gross average this year is forty eight yards,
• 41:19
  Speaker 4: so that's fourteenth best in the league. He's seventh in
• 41:22
  Speaker 4: net average right now at forty three point three, and
• 41:25
  Speaker 4: he already has four touchbacks this year. There was a
• 41:27
  Speaker 4: year where he had like one the whole season, so
• 41:30
  Speaker 4: there's some of that. And the and the gross are
• 41:33
  Speaker 4: both down from his because he's usually right there at
• 41:35
  Speaker 4: the time.
• 41:36
  Speaker 5: Deep snapper deep snapper has had some issues at times.
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: He hadn't been as good.
• 41:40
  Speaker 5: They all went to did they all go to the
• 41:42
  Speaker 5: Pro Bowl?
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: There's a couple.
• 41:44
  Speaker 4: I mean, there's like jerseys down there from all pro
• 41:47
  Speaker 4: stuff for the long snapper too, So yeah, yes, yeah,
• 41:50
  Speaker 4: there's that.
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: Those guys all got to be better. And here's the
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: weird thing about it. We talked about this last week.
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: It's the same special teams coach. Yes, so you know
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: what's going on on.
• 42:00
  Speaker 5: The one bright special teams thing that I think has
• 42:03
  Speaker 5: happened is is Parker Washington's return. I mean, have one
• 42:06
  Speaker 5: called back that's never been called that should have never
• 42:09
  Speaker 5: been a block in the back.
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: Whole block in the back. Sorry, yeah, yeah, yeah, yea.
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it should have never been. He barely even blew
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: on him and they should have let that go.
• 42:17
  Speaker 5: And and uh, he's been good. But that that's about
• 42:21
  Speaker 5: it though, right.
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: I mean, what what else are you getting? The special
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: teams have not been what you thought they would be.
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: You thought that'd be a strength kickoff team.
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: You haven't. It doesn't really stick out to you in
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: terms of, you know, pitting a team in the thirty
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: or twenty five usually coming out. So yeah, I agree
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: much teams have been down.
• 42:38
  Speaker 5: And and the return game of kickoff return, what's what's
• 42:41
  Speaker 5: uh what's his returns in the kickoff game.
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: He's had a couple of good ones, hasn't he Parker?
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, he's been really like he's.
• 42:50
  Speaker 5: Here's what I can't figure out, though, Why did they
• 42:53
  Speaker 5: change that? Didn't they change the returners in the last game?
• 42:59
  Speaker 4: Well remember earlier in the year, it was it was
• 43:02
  Speaker 4: a tank, big B, Yeah, big.
• 43:04
  Speaker 5: B and somebody else because you have two back there. Yeah,
• 43:07
  Speaker 5: but then the who had the return kickoff return?
• 43:10
  Speaker 4: They put Brown and London that's right, correct, Yeah, and
• 43:14
  Speaker 4: he actually had a.
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: Couple of returns on kickoffs.
• 43:16
  Speaker 5: It was all right, it was, but who wasn't it
• 43:18
  Speaker 5: was Theammy Brown and who? Because look at the if
• 43:20
  Speaker 5: you have the stash sheet there, who who returned to
• 43:22
  Speaker 5: kick because it wasn't just him it was they changed them.
• 43:25
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I know Diami had a couple of decently long ones.
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: I remember that. I'll find it, I'll find it.
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 43:31
  Speaker 5: But again, these teams have started using running backs as
• 43:35
  Speaker 5: return man because they think the play looks more like
• 43:38
  Speaker 5: a running play than a kickoff return.
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: I hate that. I hate it. I don't think running.
• 43:45
  Speaker 5: Backs have a natural feel for being returners, and a
• 43:49
  Speaker 5: running back by popped through the majority of the time,
• 43:52
  Speaker 5: the running back's not going to rip.
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: It for a long return.
• 43:55
  Speaker 5: You know what I mean, he's gonna pop through and
• 43:57
  Speaker 5: give you twenty five, ain't popping it and give you seven.
• 44:01
  Speaker 5: So I'm a big believer in these teams. Got to
• 44:03
  Speaker 5: get away from the running back as return.
• 44:04
  Speaker 4: Then well we'll see what happens moving ahead. And maybe
• 44:09
  Speaker 4: that's another self scout after the bye week, we'll see
• 44:12
  Speaker 4: what they throw out there in Las Vegas this week.
• 44:14
  Speaker 4: Let's take a look at the AFC South standings after
• 44:17
  Speaker 4: yesterday's action. Now, the Jaguars, all right, they are still
• 44:22
  Speaker 4: in second. But Indy at seven and one, two and
• 44:25
  Speaker 4: zero in the division, they haven't lost in the conference yet.
• 44:29
  Speaker 4: It's a runaway train and Indiana Jones is leading the way, just.
• 44:33
  Speaker 6: Like everybody predicted. I'll say this about Indianapolis. I feel
• 44:36
  Speaker 6: like week by week everyone wants to say, okay, well
• 44:38
  Speaker 6: wait till they play the Chargers. Well, they played the
• 44:41
  Speaker 6: Chargers and they curb stopped the Chargers right like that.
• 44:44
  Speaker 6: There's going to be a point where you have to
• 44:45
  Speaker 6: give your flowers and your props to the Colts and
• 44:47
  Speaker 6: say they're a solid team. And I think when you
• 44:50
  Speaker 6: have arguably the best running back in the NFL right now,
• 44:53
  Speaker 6: an offensive line that's playing very well, a rookie tight
• 44:56
  Speaker 6: end that is a mismatched nightmare, and some wide receivers
• 44:59
  Speaker 6: that are think are a little underrated in terms of
• 45:01
  Speaker 6: their capabilities, and a competent quarterback that can lead them.
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: They have the makings to be.
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 45:07
  Speaker 6: I think a pretty dang solid team that can make
• 45:10
  Speaker 6: a run. And I think it's telling if you take
• 45:12
  Speaker 6: that Titans game on Sunday. They're supposed to beat the Titans,
• 45:16
  Speaker 6: like I'm sure Vegas had that what you know, supposed
• 45:18
  Speaker 6: to beat the.
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: Titans, but they blew out the Titans. And that's what
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: a good football team does. Like that.
• 45:24
  Speaker 6: There's so much parody in the NFL where sometimes you
• 45:27
  Speaker 6: play a team that you're supposed to crush and it's
• 45:29
  Speaker 6: a competitive game.
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: The Colts haven't really had that, like the teams that
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: they're supposed to be.
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: The Cardinals game is the one they had, remember.
• 45:35
  Speaker 6: But yeah, but also I think that I think the
• 45:36
  Speaker 6: Arizona Cardinals is like they're they're a tough, physical team,
• 45:39
  Speaker 6: like on paper, they don't necessarily.
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: Murray in that game. It wasset.
• 45:44
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, the backup court, you should blow them out
• 45:46
  Speaker 5: and they ended up being in a game. But you're right,
• 45:48
  Speaker 5: normally they've been blowing. They blow the bad teams out.
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And to be fair, that that Rams game.
• 45:53
  Speaker 6: I'm sure Colts fans think about that Rams game like
• 45:56
  Speaker 6: the Jaguars think about the the Bengals game. Like the
• 45:58
  Speaker 6: Colts should have won that MS game. To set aside
• 46:01
  Speaker 6: for Mitchell, you know, having the two bonehead plays, but
• 46:04
  Speaker 6: the colt should be undefeated right now.
• 46:06
  Speaker 4: I mean, the yeah, score two touchdowns in the last
• 46:08
  Speaker 4: four minute.
• 46:08
  Speaker 5: Remember on the field goal that was they called for leaping,
• 46:13
  Speaker 5: so you can.
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: But they beat up on a lot of bad teams.
• 46:17
  Speaker 5: But to your point, though, Austin, they beat that daylights
• 46:20
  Speaker 5: out of those bad teams. They score and you know
• 46:24
  Speaker 5: when you score a lot of points, you know what
• 46:25
  Speaker 5: that does. It makes your pass rushers better. It makes
• 46:29
  Speaker 5: your pass rush better. I mean they're getting after the quarterback.
• 46:33
  Speaker 5: You know, Buckner on the interior has been good rushing
• 46:36
  Speaker 5: the quarterback.
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: The edge guys are good and you can cover.
• 46:40
  Speaker 5: Up some things on the back end when you can
• 46:41
  Speaker 5: do that. So playing with the leads important. They're gonna
• 46:43
  Speaker 5: be a tough team to beat. The Texans look good
• 46:47
  Speaker 5: on Sunday against the forty nine ers. We know they're
• 46:50
  Speaker 5: good defensively. No matter who they play, they're gonna be
• 46:52
  Speaker 5: good defensively. But they got the offense going without Nico
• 46:56
  Speaker 5: Collins against the forty nine ers and.
• 46:58
  Speaker 4: The Jags get them in two weeks as well. Coming
• 47:01
  Speaker 4: up on the road down in Houston, one hour down,
• 47:04
  Speaker 4: one hour to go. We've got fan questions, keeping it real,
• 47:07
  Speaker 4: we'll go around the league. All that set to come
• 47:09
  Speaker 4: up in hour number two. This is Jaguars Happy Hour
• 47:13
  Speaker 4: presented by Jet Home Loans.
• 47:32
  Speaker 7: There's an openness now to learn and grow from the mistake,
• 47:38
  Speaker 7: and everybody can learn from that mistake. You're not correcting
• 47:42
  Speaker 7: the player, you're correcting the play, and ultimately everybody can
• 47:46
  Speaker 7: learn something from that. And then I thought Sean did
• 47:49
  Speaker 7: a nice job of it as well when I was
• 47:51
  Speaker 7: in LA in terms of like, yeah, there's a standard
• 47:54
  Speaker 7: of execution that we hold and that we have and
• 47:58
  Speaker 7: that everybody is hell two and we're no different as
• 48:02
  Speaker 7: coaches and so we I just think that when you
• 48:05
  Speaker 7: can put a little bit on yourself and show like
• 48:08
  Speaker 7: guys like I got to you know, this isn't good
• 48:10
  Speaker 7: enough by me either, it continues to hold each other
• 48:13
  Speaker 7: accountable welcome back.
• 48:15
  Speaker 4: It is our number two of Jaguars Happy Hour. Of course,
• 48:18
  Speaker 4: that said coach Liam Cohen, and our second hour is
• 48:21
  Speaker 4: presented by mister Chubby's Wings before the game, after the game,
• 48:25
  Speaker 4: and during the game. We're on ten TENEXL Jaguars dot
• 48:28
  Speaker 4: Com Jaguars YouTube. Coming off the bye week JP Shadwrick
• 48:32
  Speaker 4: with you. Here's the opening drive for Hour two, presented
• 48:34
  Speaker 4: by Target zero. Let's get everyone home safely. Of course,
• 48:38
  Speaker 4: the Jags coming off the buye. The Jaguars now currently
• 48:41
  Speaker 4: the seventh seed in the AFC playoffs. If they started
• 48:44
  Speaker 4: right now, it's before Monday Night football.
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: The Chiefs play tonight.
• 48:47
  Speaker 4: Looking inward at the bye week, that's what Liam Cohen
• 48:50
  Speaker 4: was talking about there. The Jaguars are among the league
• 48:53
  Speaker 4: leaders in penalties and drops on offense and offensively the
• 48:58
  Speaker 4: approach for Lawrence and the offense. Moving in ahead, we'll
• 49:00
  Speaker 4: get into that again coming up shortly. Can the Jags
• 49:03
  Speaker 4: defense get to the quarterback and can they get back
• 49:06
  Speaker 4: to taking the football away? Travis Hunter usage could be
• 49:10
  Speaker 4: going up down the stretch on both sides of the football,
• 49:13
  Speaker 4: and the stretch tron is year ten games to go
• 49:16
  Speaker 4: for the Jacksonville, Jaguars, Austin Lane, Pete Prisco with us
• 49:20
  Speaker 4: as always here on Jaguars Happy Hour the Second Hour
• 49:23
  Speaker 4: presented by mister Chubbies.
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: So I liked what Liam Cohen said there about the
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: accountability part. Yeah, because there was a video clip of
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: a team meeting right before.
• 49:31
  Speaker 4: The bye week that came out that was what was
• 49:33
  Speaker 4: referenced there today and he said, yeah, you know, I
• 49:36
  Speaker 4: could have made a better play call here and showed
• 49:38
  Speaker 4: the play. One of the players, rookie running back, tried
• 49:40
  Speaker 4: to chime in, Coach, I could have done this. No, no, no,
• 49:43
  Speaker 4: that's fine. I appreciate it that this is on me.
• 49:46
  Speaker 4: So shot out to the Jaguars fil peeling behind.
• 49:47
  Speaker 6: The curtain a little bit and showing us that we've
• 49:49
  Speaker 6: been talking about the access.
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: It's great.
• 49:51
  Speaker 6: And listen, I've been an every single team that i'd
• 49:54
  Speaker 6: been on, lines, Bears, Chiefs and everything. Like those conversations
• 49:59
  Speaker 6: have been had before, right where a coach gets in
• 50:01
  Speaker 6: front of his team and says, I got to call it.
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: Up better what I've never seen before.
• 50:05
  Speaker 6: And this is why I bin into what Liam Cohen's
• 50:08
  Speaker 6: selling here in terms of accountability. I've never seen a
• 50:11
  Speaker 6: player speak in front of the room like that and
• 50:14
  Speaker 6: say I gotta do a better job.
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: And that was Allen quickly to the Quinn Allen.
• 50:18
  Speaker 6: Yeah, And I've been in those meeting rooms where you
• 50:21
  Speaker 6: don't have a good game and you almost want to
• 50:23
  Speaker 6: sit down and say, like, don't don't show it, don't
• 50:25
  Speaker 6: show it right like you you want to hide, you
• 50:28
  Speaker 6: don't want to like make yourself known. The fact that
• 50:31
  Speaker 6: you got a rookie there who it's his first year
• 50:33
  Speaker 6: in the NFL goes you know what, I'm gonna take
• 50:35
  Speaker 6: accountability for myself and say I have to do a
• 50:37
  Speaker 6: better job than you know. It's like a moment where
• 50:38
  Speaker 6: Colin's like, I appreciate it whatever. Yeah, But like I
• 50:41
  Speaker 6: think it speaks volumes. When you have a rookie who's
• 50:44
  Speaker 6: still learning his way in the NFL to stand up
• 50:46
  Speaker 6: in front of the team and say I gotta do
• 50:48
  Speaker 6: a better job, that means that the message is getting through.
• 50:50
  Speaker 6: I've never in any NFL locker I've been in, I've
• 50:53
  Speaker 6: heard the coach say a million times, I got to
• 50:55
  Speaker 6: call up better, I gotta do a better job in
• 50:56
  Speaker 6: the film room.
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: Never seen a player speak.
• 50:58
  Speaker 5: Up, though, I will say and you know, I said
• 51:02
  Speaker 5: this before the season, we didn't know how he would
• 51:06
  Speaker 5: handle being a head coach, And as we come out
• 51:10
  Speaker 5: of the bye week, I could say with one hundred
• 51:12
  Speaker 5: percent certainty from observing him.
• 51:15
  Speaker 2: Talking to people in that building, I think he's nailing it. Okay,
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: I really do.
• 51:20
  Speaker 5: I have been and I've been around this league a
• 51:23
  Speaker 5: long time, and I've been around a lot of coaches,
• 51:25
  Speaker 5: and there's a lot of bs that comes out of
• 51:27
  Speaker 5: coaches mouths, and they all try to be things they're not.
• 51:31
  Speaker 5: The one thing you can tell with Liam Cohne he's
• 51:33
  Speaker 5: being true to himself, which is the number one priority,
• 51:36
  Speaker 5: because you know that Austin players will look right through
• 51:39
  Speaker 5: your garbage. You'll know it right away you're trying to
• 51:42
  Speaker 5: be somebody else. But two, the way he handles himself
• 51:46
  Speaker 5: in situations. And I said last week on the show JP,
• 51:49
  Speaker 5: when you were here, the next two weeks we're going
• 51:51
  Speaker 5: to be the most important.
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: Weeks of Liam Cohen being the head coach. The bye
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: week and the Vegas.
• 51:57
  Speaker 5: Game, because you had two bad losses, you felt good
• 52:01
  Speaker 5: about yourself. You were the number one seed for about
• 52:03
  Speaker 5: a sneeze, and we've seen that game around here.
• 52:06
  Speaker 2: Before and then now you're not, and so I think
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: it's important. But the way he handles.
• 52:10
  Speaker 5: Himself comes across as genuine and he gets it now.
• 52:17
  Speaker 5: I love the access that the Jaguars give is better
• 52:20
  Speaker 5: than any team in the league, by the way, and
• 52:22
  Speaker 5: why shouldn't it be.
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: There are no secrets out there.
• 52:25
  Speaker 4: Just put it out there, the game plan out there,
• 52:28
  Speaker 4: but everything a team meeting.
• 52:30
  Speaker 5: Right, you're not going to put the game plan out there,
• 52:32
  Speaker 5: but everything else team meetings when it's not detail oriented,
• 52:36
  Speaker 5: you're not giving away plays and who to attack and
• 52:38
  Speaker 5: everything out.
• 52:39
  Speaker 2: That's fine.
• 52:40
  Speaker 5: Now having said all that, I love the accountability, but
• 52:44
  Speaker 5: now you're gonna get Prisco accountability. Oh boy, the Dann
• 52:47
  Speaker 5: field goal. Liam Right, it was fourth and seven. You're
• 52:54
  Speaker 5: down twenty one to nothing. You've been flailing around doing nothing.
• 52:59
  Speaker 2: Why don't you kick the feat to make it twenty
• 53:01
  Speaker 2: one to three?
• 53:02
  Speaker 5: And people said, well, maybe he didn't trust your kicker.
• 53:05
  Speaker 5: If you don't trust your.
• 53:05
  Speaker 2: Kicker to make a thirty five yard field goal, then
• 53:07
  Speaker 2: you should have caught him after the game.
• 53:10
  Speaker 5: So there's my accountability on that.
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: He should have kicked the field goal.
• 53:16
  Speaker 6: Listen, And we talked about this last week. I mean,
• 53:19
  Speaker 6: I thought I wasn't going to do it.
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: I swore in front of my son on that play,
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: I'm in the fourth and seven, you drop the curse?
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: I had to.
• 53:25
  Speaker 6: How could you not? It's fourth and seventy. He decided
• 53:27
  Speaker 6: to go over a quarterback run and didn't work out right.
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: No, it actually was a pass and he scrambled.
• 53:33
  Speaker 6: Remember oh okay, yeah, correction, it was a pass. But
• 53:35
  Speaker 6: he just had to scramble and you could tell from
• 53:37
  Speaker 6: the get go that he wasn't going.
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: To get there.
• 53:39
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but he also kind of ran live at the
• 53:41
  Speaker 4: end instead of diving the headlong.
• 53:42
  Speaker 5: Well no, but he also could have pulled up and
• 53:45
  Speaker 5: thrown to the ten who came uncovered on that play,
• 53:48
  Speaker 5: and he didn't throw it to him.
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 53:50
  Speaker 6: I mean, at the end of the day, whether or
• 53:52
  Speaker 6: not he was trying to stick up for Cam Little
• 53:54
  Speaker 6: and take some of the burden off of him.
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: But Pete, I completely agree with you.
• 53:58
  Speaker 6: Where if we're talking about thirty five yard kicking, we're
• 54:01
  Speaker 6: tailoring game plans now to try to make a kicker
• 54:04
  Speaker 6: feel better.
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: I mean, what are we talking about thirty five yards?
• 54:09
  Speaker 5: I mean, and if you talk to Limb about it.
• 54:12
  Speaker 5: I bet he privately, I bet he was saying, I
• 54:13
  Speaker 5: didn't trust my dam kicker in that situation. But if
• 54:17
  Speaker 5: that's the case, then he can't be your kicker.
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: You're stressing with that, then he's not gonna be kicking extra.
• 54:22
  Speaker 6: Points because they're thirty three years There's plenty of kids
• 54:24
  Speaker 6: on college game made that are more than feasible.
• 54:27
  Speaker 4: I feel like, I mean, let's let's keep a place
• 54:29
  Speaker 4: about the same now too.
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: If you make one. Yeah, jeez, but he is.
• 54:34
  Speaker 5: But I love the way he handles himself with the team,
• 54:38
  Speaker 5: and by the way, he also handles himself.
• 54:39
  Speaker 2: Very well with the media.
• 54:42
  Speaker 5: You know, he explains things, he's not stand offish with
• 54:47
  Speaker 5: the questions, and he doesn't get angry with the questions
• 54:50
  Speaker 5: even if they're coming in a direction where he probably
• 54:52
  Speaker 5: doesn't want him coming from. And I think he's smart
• 54:55
  Speaker 5: that way. But I think he's also smart the way
• 54:56
  Speaker 5: he handles his team. And I didn't know that about him.
• 54:59
  Speaker 5: You you never know until the guy's in that position.
• 55:02
  Speaker 5: What I've seen so far I am impressed with as
• 55:07
  Speaker 5: a coach who handles this team.
• 55:09
  Speaker 6: Yeah, and it comes down to being genuine and now
• 55:12
  Speaker 6: listen to talk to him in four or five years
• 55:14
  Speaker 6: and then let's see if he wants to give the
• 55:16
  Speaker 6: full access in everything, or let's see if he's a
• 55:18
  Speaker 6: little burnt out by doing that. I mean, time will tell.
• 55:20
  Speaker 6: But as far as your your first year is concerned,
• 55:22
  Speaker 6: And I said this one one of the very first
• 55:24
  Speaker 6: happy hour shows, Like.
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: When you're winning, everything's fine.
• 55:28
  Speaker 6: When you're losing, you're gonna find out what type of
• 55:29
  Speaker 6: coach who are really quickly, and I think so far
• 55:32
  Speaker 6: his ability to stay genuine. And I think as the
• 55:34
  Speaker 6: players will respond to that, because I'm gonna be honest,
• 55:36
  Speaker 6: it doesn't matter if you're a hard nosed, old school
• 55:39
  Speaker 6: throwback type of coach who wants to cuss all the time,
• 55:41
  Speaker 6: or you're more of a player's coach, Like players don't
• 55:44
  Speaker 6: care about that, Like they're all grown men at the.
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: End of the day.
• 55:46
  Speaker 6: But what players are gonna see through is when you're
• 55:48
  Speaker 6: not being genuine, when you're acting a certain way one
• 55:51
  Speaker 6: day and then the next day you're acting differently, that's
• 55:54
  Speaker 6: when players call you out. I mean, I've seen it firsthand,
• 55:56
  Speaker 6: not in Jackson, but I've seen in other teams where
• 55:58
  Speaker 6: players have no problem calling.
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: A coach out. If he's not being genuine, and I
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: think so far, Liam Cohen's doing great.
• 56:03
  Speaker 4: Examples, give us some examples.
• 56:05
  Speaker 6: Well, I mean I spent some time in Detroit. The
• 56:10
  Speaker 6: coach of Detroit at the time wasn't doing the best.
• 56:14
  Speaker 2: And what was his name?
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: Oh it was Jim Schwartz.
• 56:18
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, well Jim. Let me see if I could
• 56:22
  Speaker 2: describe Jim over the years.
• 56:23
  Speaker 5: When I know Jim, Jim's ego sometimes doesn't fit the room.
• 56:28
  Speaker 5: M and you know he invented the game, right, it's
• 56:34
  Speaker 5: never his fault. Yeah, right, Well, I mean that's Jim Schwartz.
• 56:39
  Speaker 5: Jim Schwartz is a good football coach, but as a
• 56:42
  Speaker 5: head coach, I can imagine if you're playing for him,
• 56:45
  Speaker 5: it would be there'd be some annoyance to that.
• 56:47
  Speaker 6: Listen, And I was only there for a short amount
• 56:49
  Speaker 6: of time, right, So I just kind of I came
• 56:51
  Speaker 6: in the middle of the season, right, and we lose
• 56:55
  Speaker 6: to Tampa, Who's a team that we're supposed to beat.
• 56:56
  Speaker 6: We get beat by Mike Glennon like you know, shreds,
• 57:00
  Speaker 6: so like giant upset. Everyone's already ticked off. I remember
• 57:03
  Speaker 6: just going to the locker room and you know, my
• 57:07
  Speaker 6: time there. Before that game, I felt like Jim was
• 57:10
  Speaker 6: more like a kind of a player's coach, kind of.
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: Like an easy going guy. And then we get in
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: the locker room and you know, there's waters being thrown
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: and stuff like that. And I won't speak on who
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: the player was.
• 57:21
  Speaker 6: I'll respect the privacy of the player, but one player
• 57:23
  Speaker 6: spoke out and said.
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: You're not gonna do that anymore. If you do that again,
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: we're gonna have problems, and like that that was kind
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: of a rift.
• 57:29
  Speaker 6: This is just means being a bystander like hey, I
• 57:31
  Speaker 6: just got I'm just right here and I'm and I'm
• 57:34
  Speaker 6: coming to a family that seems a little dysfunctional, right,
• 57:37
  Speaker 6: So like once that happened to kind of open my
• 57:39
  Speaker 6: eyes and seeing like, okay, you know, like if if
• 57:42
  Speaker 6: you're gonna try to act up and try to make
• 57:44
  Speaker 6: a statement, it better come from being a place of
• 57:46
  Speaker 6: genuine because if it's not.
• 57:48
  Speaker 1: These these are grown men we're talking about.
• 57:50
  Speaker 6: These These aren't college kids who you got to take
• 57:51
  Speaker 6: by the hand and going to class a certain time,
• 57:54
  Speaker 6: like no, these are guys with families who won't be
• 57:57
  Speaker 6: talked to like that, you know.
• 57:58
  Speaker 2: See, And I think Liam will call out players if
• 58:00
  Speaker 2: need be.
• 58:01
  Speaker 5: I mean, he might not do it publicly, but he'll
• 58:04
  Speaker 5: he'll do it, and he need you know, I mean
• 58:06
  Speaker 5: I think he's he's called it. Basically, he called out
• 58:09
  Speaker 5: Brian Thomas' training camp. Remember he did Miami.
• 58:13
  Speaker 2: You were there, JP. He called him out on the
• 58:15
  Speaker 2: podium over there when he was standing on the podium.
• 58:17
  Speaker 2: So this is the this is the Brian.
• 58:19
  Speaker 5: Thomas we thought we'd see. We hadn't seen it so far.
• 58:21
  Speaker 5: It was nice to see basically called him out.
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: Anton Harrison as well.
• 58:24
  Speaker 6: I think got a little bit of that treatment during
• 58:27
  Speaker 6: the pres Yes, did you.
• 58:32
  Speaker 2: Know it's a little different than like certain other guys
• 58:34
  Speaker 2: have done, like Tom was, you know, you know that
• 58:37
  Speaker 2: was Coughlin, he was.
• 58:38
  Speaker 5: It was not no subtle jab. That was just a
• 58:40
  Speaker 5: right cross to your forehead, you know. And you know
• 58:43
  Speaker 5: Tom called out. Tom called out Mark Brunell on the
• 58:47
  Speaker 5: podium once and it led to a real problem. I
• 58:49
  Speaker 5: mean that that and then he called him out in
• 58:51
  Speaker 5: private too, So there's ways to do it. I think
• 58:55
  Speaker 5: so far Liam has done a good job. But you're
• 58:57
  Speaker 5: right when it really like for example, if they were
• 59:00
  Speaker 5: to lose, and I don't think they will lose this week,
• 59:02
  Speaker 5: But if they were to lose to the Raiders, then
• 59:04
  Speaker 5: we're gonna see what he's really made of for that
• 59:07
  Speaker 5: kind of thing, because you're right, Austome, When it really
• 59:10
  Speaker 5: starts going bad, that's when you test the real metal
• 59:13
  Speaker 5: of the head coach.
• 59:13
  Speaker 4: By the way, did do we get like a sense
• 59:16
  Speaker 4: of a lock there?
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: Pete? You were trying to go down that road?
• 59:20
  Speaker 2: Hey, I don't like really locking road games. You know?
• 59:28
  Speaker 2: Did I locked? I locked the Chiefs before before?
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: We didn't have a do we have a show for
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: the the week before we did?
• 59:35
  Speaker 2: The week before I locked the Chiefs?
• 59:37
  Speaker 6: Did you lock the Rams game? No, you didn't lock
• 59:39
  Speaker 6: the Ram He locked Carolina for sure.
• 59:43
  Speaker 2: And I locked the Chiefs. That was my second I
• 59:45
  Speaker 2: go ahead and lock it.
• 59:46
  Speaker 4: Well, why don't you be bold? And it's a new
• 59:49
  Speaker 4: era of Jaguars football, Pete? I mean be bold and
• 59:52
  Speaker 4: make bold moves.
• 59:54
  Speaker 5: Is that really that bold to lock a team on
• 59:56
  Speaker 5: the road against the Raiders the game?
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: You said you don't lock road games.
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 2: Well, because the road is did you see what I mean?
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 5: You can see what happens in the history in the
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 5: on the West Coast, they bucked the trend against the Niners.
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 2: But does Vegas count as the West Coast?
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 4: I believe it's in the Pacific time zone.
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 5: When when they use their stats of how bad they've
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 5: been in the Pacific time zone.
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: Count I think that falls in it.
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, So that's why I'm not gonna lock it.
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 5: Just just if you lock it, then you could, can't
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 5: You just see Crosby like getting two strip sacks and
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 5: they turn into touchdown off.
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: Right right, Well, I'm gonna tell you right now.
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 6: You know, Halloween's coming up and everything, and I don't
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 6: know candy to give out, so I'll be locking.
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: The door and I'll be locking this pic.
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 6: Wow, this this is a must win game for the
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 6: Jacksonville Jaguars.
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 2: And I hear the sound effects on that. I didn't
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 2: hear this.
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they were there. They're there in in audio. Yeah,
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: and surround sound. This is your first ever happy hour lock.
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: This is my first ever happy hour lock.
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 6: I've had some good times in Vegas, had some forgettable
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 6: times in Vegas, but I'm gonna lock this one in
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 6: and say, this is a must.
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 1: Win game for the Jacksonville Jaguars.
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 5: If, by the way, the other guy that used to
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 5: sit in that seat with lock games and they would
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 5: be rotten.
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 2: So I'm worried about it. Now I'm worried about.
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: I can bring that mo Joe man.
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 5: Yeah, there you go, break the trend, break the mold.
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: Try and break the trend.
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 4: You're locking the door at Halloween. You don't have candy.
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: Well of those people, I'm gonna be all getting Kenny
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 1: with my son. We're time. Oh yeah, but I'm not
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: gonna be around there. I mean I'm gonna be out
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: there trick or treat with.
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 6: My son, who's got this this giant t Rex costume
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 6: that lights up and everything.
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 1: We went all out this year, Like he's what are
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: you dressing this nothing? Man?
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 6: This is this is his time, right. We have a
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 6: we have an understanding of he's going to get Rece's
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 6: peanut butter cups. He has to reach his quota, right
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 6: Like there's they're in the lane household. You have to
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 6: give me ten things that reaches peanut butter comes ten.
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 6: That's the that's the tax eat nose.
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 2: Now are you eat those?
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 5: Now?
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 2: Are you still training?
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 6: I mean, hey, training, I'm trying to trim I'm I'm
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 6: trimming weight.
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: But at the same time, I can indulge every once
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: in a while.
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 4: I clearly don't know how it works.
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: You know, you don't know how it works, you know, but.
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 5: You wouldn't think like four reasons because you ain't. You're
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 5: not just eating one of those Austin.
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: I mean, I can have to and be Okay, come on, now.
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 2: You know what. You know what he's going to justify it.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 2: It's peanut butter. He gets a protein that's a.
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 6: Good point, healthy fats, some chocolate, you know.
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 4: Yeah, wow, I love it all right.
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 1: Hey, So the lock is in from Austin.
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 4: First, Austin first, one nning. We'll see if it pays
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 4: off this week in Las Vegas. By the way, mister
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 4: Chubby's wings before the game, after the game. During the game,
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 4: chre on the Jags as they visit Las Vegas and
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 4: face the Raiders this Sunday at the official away game
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 4: watch party. It takes place in mister Chubby's West Side
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 4: location this Sunday, four o'clock kickoff time, four o five.
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 2: What do you do? What do you eat?
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: Today?
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 4: So they had for the production staff they have case
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 4: of dias. They had boneless garlic wings, had a couple
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 4: of those and they had potato wedges. Nice. Yeah, they
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 4: always have a great setup. It smelled delicious walking in here.
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 4: Did you grab some of those?
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: I did not. No, I'm trying.
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's good.
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 1: I'll be.
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 2: Halloween night, but he's.
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 1: Gonna give me two Halloween cops.
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 6: Everybody for it before we're going for I'm taking it out.
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 5: By the way, I saw they have one now that
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 5: has oreo in it.
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 2: With the Oreo in it? Did you see that? They
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 2: don't wonder if that's any good wine? Why mess with perfection?
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 4: There's there's only one way to find out feat and
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 4: that's we're.
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 1: Back in a moment.
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 4: We will keep kee bit real on penalties for the Jags.
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 4: Too many Jaguars Happy Hour presented by mister Chubby's.
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 7: Wings, especially offensively, are on schedule. Usually good things have occurred,
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 7: and when you're off schedule, it's tough sledding. And we've
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 7: got a couple, you know, different tweaks of how we
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 7: want to try to get guys the ball and get
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 7: the get our best players of the ball in space,
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 7: and how to stay a little bit better ahead of
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 7: the chains and executing first and second down a little
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 7: bit better so that third downs are a little bit
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 7: more manageable.
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 4: That's the head coach, Liam Cohen self scouting on offense
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 4: during the bye week for the offensive coaching staff and
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 4: welcome back. It's Jaguars Happy Hour JP Shadrick, Austin Lane
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 4: and Pete Prisco and Leonard Skinnard is coming home. Celebrate
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 4: Southern rock and American pride with skinnered rocks, the Red, White,
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 4: and Blue. A special night to support Saint Michael Soldiers
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 4: and the brave men and women of the US Armed Forces. Saturday,
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 4: November eighth, Coming up soon at Daily's Place. Go to
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 4: Daily'splace dot com or cold nine oh four six three
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 4: three two thousand.
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 1: Excited for that SKINNERD nice man, always fun I gave uh.
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 1: I used to drive Uber just because I was bored
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: back when I retired from the NFL. Yeah, and uh
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 1: I gave I don't know, it was like a niece
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 1: of one of like the SKINNERDS. I gave a ride.
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 1: So like she Yeah, I mean she really really cool person.
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 6: I forgot her name or anything, but like she she
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 6: was going like to the family unions and stuff, talking
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 6: to me like all the stories with Leonard Skinner, like
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 6: it was it was one of the best, uh you know,
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 6: drives I ever had in terms of driving somebody pretty funny.
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 1: Oh, I have a bunch of stories with that, I bet.
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 2: You I would love to hear them day.
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 6: Oh yeah, Pete reminding the next time we're hanging out together, man, Yeah,
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 6: I got ten in the chamber that they are gonna
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 6: blow your mind in terms of people that I've given
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 6: rides to and just stories of revolving those of those rides.
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 1: Pete, you're gonna come up for skinnered or not?
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 2: No?
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 1: Uh no, you've never seen Spinner.
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 2: I scene Leonards. No, I'm not. I don't.
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 5: I mean, I'm not a big Southern rock guy, but
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 5: i like some of the songs, so I would, you know,
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 5: but I wouldn't go see a show.
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 1: Probably fair enough.
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 4: Well, uh, we'll give a full report after that concert
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 4: to you though.
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 2: People.
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 1: We'll let you know how it was.
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, I can't wait.
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 4: It seems like you can't wait time now for keeping
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 4: it real presented by nobody.
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 1: Still amazing, that's what it is at this point. Amazing.
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 1: I don't know if that's that's over selling it. Are
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 1: trying to grow their business, huh.
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 8: Just people are satisfied if they.
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 5: Had, if they had won the last two games, it'd
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 5: probably be somebody lining.
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 1: Up to do. Hey, but there's seventh seed right now.
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 2: Still after tonight, they won't be there if the Chiefs win.
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 1: Chiefs are gonna lose tonight.
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 2: No, they're not.
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 1: I'm not locking them. They had one day. No no, no, no.
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 1: They they found lightning in a bottle once with Marcus.
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 1: That might be enough.
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 2: No, but they're the Commander's defense is tirible. We'll talk
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 2: more about getting Monday night football. But they're not good
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 2: all right?
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 4: Keeping it real penalties the Jaguars, because they had the
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 4: bye week, they are now fourth in the league in
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 4: accepted penalties. I believe there's second in total penalties called
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 4: against them.
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 1: So there you have it.
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 4: If you're watching us on Jaguars dot Com. Sixty five
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 4: accepted penalties through Sunday of Week eight, so that's one
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 4: game less than all the other teams above them. It's
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 4: like eighty three total penalties called last week, eighteen flags
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 4: on the ground, thirteen of those accepted. And a week
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 4: after they talked about hey, the game wrecker. Are the
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 4: Jaguars not the other teams players? It was the highest
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 4: water mark in penalties this entire season. So now what
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 4: I mean? Some of these are okay, aggressive football penalties.
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 4: Those happened, like PI happens from time to time. There's
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 4: things holding right if you're if you're getting beat, sometimes
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 4: you held and things happen right.
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 1: Now.
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 4: Some of them have we've talked about throughout the season,
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 4: or are mental issues like the aligning up off side
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 4: on offense twice, the throwing the ball pass the line
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 4: of scrimmage twice this year.
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 1: There's the lay of game.
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 2: They've had the lay of games right there.
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 4: So on that screen we're looking at on Jaguars dot Com,
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 4: there's so many more.
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 1: That didn't make it. It's just there's only one screen here.
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 1: So it's like we, you know, UH should make it
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 1: so small. It's like Times New Roman twelve right now?
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 1: Are you trying to go to eight? Right? Way?
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 5: By the way on our shows on Sunday, I came
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 5: up with in the green room the other day. I
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 5: call them and I would never do this, but if
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 5: I was a head coach, I would think about it.
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 5: I call those penalties the chokables because you want to
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 5: choke a damn guy for doing it.
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 2: And so a legal shift the lay of game, not.
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 5: Getting set, you know, jumping off side, fall start, fall, start.
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 5: Those to me are chokables. The other one I call
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 5: him chokables. The other one is personal fouls away from
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 5: the action.
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 2: That's a chokeable.
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 5: Now, if you get a pass interference penalty, fine, you
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 5: get a holding penalty, you gonna get a call for holding.
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 2: Fine.
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 5: It's in the context of the game, like when WINGERD
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 5: got the hit in the end zone, bad call.
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 2: Even if it was a good call, you're.
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 5: Not really that upset about it. But all the pre
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 5: snap stuff drives me up well. And it's not just
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 5: in Jacksonville, it's everywhere. And by the way, if you
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 5: look at that list of the most penalized teams in
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 5: the league, three of them are first new coaches. New
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 5: England's a new coach, Dallas is a new coach, and
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 5: Liam Cohne's a new coach.
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 2: So you might have some of that going on on
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 2: as well.
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 5: The other part of that is Trevor Lawrence doesn't do
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 5: a great job with the play call, coming in, getting
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 5: to a line of scrimmage, getting everybody set and going.
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 2: And how many times do we see.
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 5: Him whether the guy's lined up right or not, you
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 5: see him motioning that guy or whatever.
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 2: If the playcock gets down, you can't change the play.
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah he's out, or run it, run the plane.
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 5: It might be a bad play, but it's better than
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 5: getting a five yard delay a game.
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 2: Run the play. And I think you've seen a lot
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 2: of that.
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 5: I put a lot of it on the play call
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 5: coming in, Trevor Lawrence not getting.
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 2: A feel for that's a feel if you're.
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 5: A quarterback and the play comes in and you're breaking
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 5: the huddle with fifteen seconds or fourteen second.
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 2: You know you got to go. You can't stand there
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 2: and line him up and then try and change the play.
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 2: So there's a lot of things that play.
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 5: But they got to clean that up because you can't
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 5: work behind the sticks all the time.
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 2: It's just you're not going to have a good offense.
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 6: So you've seen like teams like the Patriots run that list.
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 6: The Broncos are on that list. They have the team
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 6: set in place where that they can make up for
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 6: those penalties. The Jaguars can't right now, like they can't
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 6: handle to the sufflicted wounds. And especially when you talk
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 6: about like if you go back to that Rams game.
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 6: It seemed like when the Jaguars went up tempo a
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 6: little bit, there was a little more rhythm with Trevor Lawrence,
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 6: there was a little more confidence. Nothing kills confidence and
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 6: rhythm more than penalties, especially pre snap penalties. Right, So
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 6: if you want to put two and two together and say, okay,
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 6: well Trevor doesn't you know, he's not confident, he's not
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 6: poisoned the pocket. Well, when you're dealing with the the
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 6: pre snap penalties, that's gonna throw off the rhythm. That's
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 6: gonna throw off the drive. So that goes hand in hand.
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 5: And you know, the illegal shift has been an emphasis
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 5: this year and they've got caught with that a bunch
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 5: of different times where two guys are moving and they
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 5: don't set.
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 4: Well, they had what five or six in one game
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 4: that that one game and like five or declined because
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 4: they didn't do anything with it either.
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 5: So it's yeah, not knowing the offense, you know, and
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 5: and and fair you know, it's it's all overwhelming for
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 5: a young rookie to be learning both sides of the ball.
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 5: But you gotta get you gotta get into a rhythm,
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 5: and those penalties are like a sack to me, you
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 5: know we talk about first and fifteen or second and thirteen.
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 5: Those are sacks. That's what those are. And you can't
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 5: have that.
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 1: You know, with those pre snap with emotions and everything.
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 1: I get it. Maybe last year, you know, you get
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 1: away with a lot more of those.
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 6: This year, the NFL is cracking down, and it almost
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 6: like it's like a police officer trying to crack down
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 6: on like speaking tickets before Christmas, right, like you have
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 6: to reach your quota. That's what these referees seem like now.
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 6: But at the end of the day, like, if it
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 6: happens one game, okay, let it be an anomaly and
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 6: learn from it.
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 1: But this has happened multiple games now.
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 6: And it was almost the Kansas City game where we
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 6: all praise this team because of what they had four
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 6: penalties that game on primetime television Monday Night Football, right Like,
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 6: that's what I thought.
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 1: The Jaggers were gonna be. That's not who they are
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 1: right now.
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  Speaker 6: Like if you if if you look at just the
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  Speaker 6: sample size, they are an undisciplined, you know, penalized team,
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  Speaker 6: and until that gets addressed, you can't expect to win
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  Speaker 6: a lot of close battles. Because you don't have the
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  Speaker 6: team makeup to overcome those types of mistakes.
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  Speaker 2: By the way, I thought it was at the end
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  Speaker 2: of the month. The police officers.
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  Speaker 1: I think it was like a holiday thing though, where
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  Speaker 1: they try to get it in before the holidays.
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  Speaker 4: Well, you know, I think they're out there around the
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  Speaker 4: holidays a whole lot more because there's a lot of
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  Speaker 4: people on the roads on them.
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  Speaker 2: It's the end of the month, right and.
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  Speaker 4: The end of the month, so it goes hand in hand.
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  Speaker 4: The end of the month, I think, is the thing.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know how true that is. That was never
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  Speaker 4: a cop.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, neither was I.
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  Speaker 5: But I bet the police officers that would call in
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  Speaker 5: and say I would tell us, they would say, no.
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  Speaker 2: Not true.
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  Speaker 1: I never did that ever.
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  Speaker 2: Uh.
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  Speaker 7: We have no plans on moving Brian Thomas Jr.
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  Speaker 2: At all saw.
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  Speaker 7: Something about that over the weekend, but I mean I
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 7: talked to him for a good amount of time this morning,
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  Speaker 7: and it's just a good reset for a lot of
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 7: these guys to come in fresh four and three with
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  Speaker 7: everything ahead of us regardless, good batter and different what's
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 7: happened in the first seven games. We all have an
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  Speaker 7: opportunity to write a narrative. We own the narrative, and
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  Speaker 7: so I got a lot of confidence in him. I
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  Speaker 7: really do believe that we can turn the corner and
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  Speaker 7: get better in the past game that way.
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  Speaker 4: The uh we put the cat signal out on X
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  Speaker 4: earlier today. Either way, and here's the best we came
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 4: up with today at lever Torrance. After the last two losses,
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 4: the schedule head looks a lot more dawning. Still in
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 4: the running for a wildcard spot. Is this weekend against
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 4: the Raiders that must win for both standings and confidence
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 4: moving forward. Well, you guys have both addressed this earlier, Pete,
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  Speaker 4: but we want to double down here.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, no question about it's a must win.
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  Speaker 5: If you're gonna have any chance to be a playoff team,
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 5: you gotta win this game. Must Raiders team. The quarterbacks
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 5: not playing well, they have all kinds of issues. The
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 5: defense has actually played decent football. But if you block
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 5: Max Crosby you'll beat them. That's easier said than done,
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 5: but I think they'll they'll find a way to win
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 5: the game.
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  Speaker 2: But it's a must win, no question about it.
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  Speaker 4: They're four and four if they lose with nine games
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  Speaker 4: to go, so you must win.
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  Speaker 6: It is a must win from the morale that locker room,
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 6: where if you come off of your two ugliest games
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 6: of the season so far with Seattle in LA. You
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 6: go on your bye week, you're supposed to reset, come
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 6: back in a new team, and you go out there
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 6: and put on a performance that's going to lose to
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 6: the Raiders, who are a team that you're supposed to beat.
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 6: Then yeah, I'm gonna start to question, like what the
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 6: players in that locker room are thinking.
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  Speaker 5: And then, by the way, you got the Texans the
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 5: next week on the road, which is another tough one,
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 5: and then you want the.
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 1: Chargers that yeah, that's right.
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  Speaker 5: I mean you got to win one, maybe two at
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 5: least of those games.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, it's fine.
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  Speaker 4: Well, I know one person who really believes in it,
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 4: Auston Lane Heady locked it in.
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 1: Play the sound, we have the sound.
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 2: Start the way we strot a wet blanket on this team.
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  Speaker 5: Right. And if you before the season, you would have
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 5: told everybody that they would have beat the Chiefs and
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 5: the forty nine ers Chiefs at home in the forty
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 5: nine ers of the road, and they would be where
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 5: they are right now. I guarantee the entire city would
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 5: have signed up for it, no doubt. Just how they
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 5: got to it that they're not happy about.
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 4: Right, four and three is still four and three at
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 4: the bye week when a lot of people thought it'd
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 4: be like two and five.
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  Speaker 2: With victories over the Chiefs and the Niners.
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  Speaker 5: On the road, you know, bucking trends to win that
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 5: that they haven't done great on the road out there
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  Speaker 5: in their history.
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  Speaker 1: But you're not locking this one.
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 2: No, hell no, I don't. I'm not locking the road game.
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 1: Okay, are you gonna lock the Chargers game? See how
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 1: they see how they play.
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 2: Let me see how the quarterback plays in the next
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 2: two weeks.
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 4: Speaking up, that's their next question at job sixteen t
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 4: Why is Trevor still hesitant to throw the ball down
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  Speaker 4: the field?
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  Speaker 5: Let me say this, there's a narrative out there, very
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 5: misguided from what I've been told, that he's not first
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 5: one in, last one out, doesn't put the work in,
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 5: doesn't know the offense as well.
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  Speaker 2: Not true, none of it.
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 5: Understands every bit about it, smart, lives it, works it.
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 2: But something's happening.
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 5: From the time he takes the snap to when the
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 5: ball gets thrown. Now, is he hesitant for a reason?
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 5: Why did he take a big shot last year?
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 2: Sped him up? Because we know he took a big shot.
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 2: Has he been sped up?
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 5: Is he different than he's been because the mechanics have
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 5: all been tweaked, the motion has been tightened.
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 2: The footwork is better.
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 5: But something from point A to here, the ball being
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 5: thrown short circuits at some point and it's not natural
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 5: for him.
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 2: So I don't know why that is.
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 5: But they better figure it out quickly, and he better
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 5: figure it out quickly.
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 2: I'm a big believer in his talent, but he's gotta.
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 5: Start showing it by driving the ball down the field
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 5: rather than taking the easy throw and the check downs
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 5: and all that stuff.
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 6: I this is a couple of weeks ago I praised
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 6: Trevor where he played within himself. You don't have to
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 6: play outside yourself and try to be a gunslinger, just
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 6: be who you are.
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 1: Well, now it's starting to look like these past couple
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 1: of games where he's trying to be a guy that's
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 1: more of a game manager than actually try to take
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 1: risks and win football games. It's one thing if you're
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 1: running the football for you know, two hundred yards of
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 1: pop and you have the legs of ETN, you have
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 1: your defense causing turnovers and everything. Then as a quarterback.
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 1: You can kind of put it in cruse control and say,
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 1: all right, as long as I don't turn the football over,
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 1: we're all good. But when you're losing by twenty one
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 1: against the Rams, then it's time. I feel like you
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 1: got to take the risks. And I feel like right
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 1: now it might be a guy that's maybe a little
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 1: afraid to turn the ball. I think you see that
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 1: in the pocket in terms of taking quarterback sacks and
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 1: not seeing the guy. I think you it's in terms
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 1: of taking shots downfield. I think he's just trying to
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 1: play within himself and not turn the football over.
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 5: And they want him running more. You know, they said
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 5: use your legs more. Okay, that's fine, but you have
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 5: to that's running when there's pressure right down on you.
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 5: Running then not not one and get out and two
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 5: move to throw.
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 2: If you've watch justin Herbert to Let when he's going
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 2: on his best, what does he do.
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 5: He gets outside the pocket, keeps his head up and
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 5: fires a shot down the field. Strebor needs to do
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 5: a better job of that, and I think he can,
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 5: and we've seen him do it before. But I think
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 5: all that's in play and I think he can get
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 5: to it, But it's just a matter of something's being
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 5: short circuited from the play coming in to him getting
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 5: under center. Because he knows it, he understands it, he's
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 5: good at it.
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 2: Just run it, run the play. Play his best drive
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 2: of the year.
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 5: If you had to say his best drive of the year,
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 5: what would it be? Not the end, not the touchdown,
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 5: but the best drive of the year. He's the Chiefs
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 5: game when shot to the sideline to Thomas, then he
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 5: get back and fired a shot over on the other sideline. Yeah,
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 5: and then I mean he got passed in the fierst penalty,
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 5: but still the run doesn't cout.
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 2: But those two throws he was going, yet they go.
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 2: I still think he plays at his best when he
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 2: has to go.
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 6: And you mentioned justin Herbert too, like if you watch
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 6: his last game, like it's not like that offensive line
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 6: is playing really well right now either, Like Herbert's running
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 6: for his life. But I think the difference right now
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 6: between Herbert and Lawrence is that Herbert has like the
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 6: maximum feel for the pocket where if it breaks down
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 6: and he's under pressure, he's gonna get you five or
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 6: six yards and go out of bounds and be smart
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 6: about it.
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 1: Right like.
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 6: That's that to me is the ultimate confident quarterback, where
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 6: you know, if it's breaking down, all right, I'm not
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 6: gonna get a first down on this play, but I'm
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 6: gonna put my offense in a position to win by
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 6: getting that five six yard gain every single post.
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 5: It's it's funny because there was a play where Herbert
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 5: scrambled for a first down and it kind of opened up.
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 5: But if you look at it, if he just steps
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 5: up and he had a shot over the top for
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 5: a touchdown and he didn't, I don't know if you
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 5: guys remember that, but he didn't take it.
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 2: I still think being able to move is a blessing.
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 2: Being able to move and throw is a true.
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 5: Blessing because nobody wants your quarterback running around like a
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 5: mad man. But if he could move to throw and
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 5: hit some shots down the field, that's that just devastates
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 5: a defense.
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 4: Next question at the six seeing is how other teams
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 4: are hurting for cornerback help. Do you think the Jags
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 4: are sellers on the back end of the defense?
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 1: What?
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 5: No, No, they don't have They do not have enough cornerbacks.
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 5: As it is, White Travis underneath the play be a starting.
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 1: Corner right now.
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 4: This I mean, especially Steam is not a selling team,
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 4: by the way, they might be a buying team.
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 1: Especially in the secondary, right, that's the last position you
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 1: want to sell.
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 5: I feel like, I mean, if I was buying, I'd
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 5: be looking around for a defensive tackle and maybe uh
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 5: some a tight end depending on when strangers coming back
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 5: because they miss him in the worst way.
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 2: And then also if there's.
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 5: A wide receiver around floating around. Those are the three
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 5: spots I would look for.
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not selling any time soon.
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 6: I think a drug testing agency would be a great
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  Speaker 1: With questions like.
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  Speaker 6: That, wow, well, I mean, I mean, what are we
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 6: talking about, Like, is there even in the secondary that
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 6: you want to be like, hey, you know, this guy's
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 6: a hot topic that's going and south Like, I don't think.
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 1: He's already sold. They already traded one away Tyson Campbell. Yeah,
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 1: I don't think there's anybody you can really sell.
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 2: And they're not going to trade away the guy they
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 2: just traded fo.
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 1: No, he's yeah.
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 4: And and they're four and three and feel like okay,
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 4: especially if they get this game against Las Vegas, then
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 4: they're right there in the.
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 2: Speaking of trades. One, mister Bigsby went over one hundred yesterday?
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 1: Did he really?
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 1: Wow for him? Yeah, yep?
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 5: On Chase, I mean, I mean you could go Josh
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 5: Oliver's blogging like a man man.
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that works sometimes, all right?
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 4: Next and final one at Eric Harrison, what value is
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 4: a self scouting tool? Might close relationship with Sean McVay
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 4: hold since they won't play again this year with McVeigh
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 4: share Rams observations?
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 1: Do things like this happen?
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 2: Yes, they do happen.
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 5: And if you have a trusting relationship with the guy
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 5: and you're playing a team you know they played, they
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 5: call on they share information.
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 2: They might never admit it, but they do.
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 1: Would you, Yeah, right, yes, any kind of source.
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 5: I'm trying to figure out who they have left that
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 5: they that the Rams have on their schedule.
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 1: They'd have, I mean everybody on the division, right, it's the.
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 5: Rams, well, the Colts, but you pretty much know the
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 5: Colts better than the Rams know the you play them
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 5: in the division.
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 4: Let's see, the Rams have obviously the division teams Niners, Seahawks, Panthers.
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 5: But but you've played them all already, I'm saying not
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 5: McVeigh leaning on Cone Cone, leaning on McVay.
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 1: They played the Charger. Oh they the Colts.
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 2: Have the Colts play the Rams?
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 1: No? Yeah, they they beat them the only loss. Yeah, yeah,
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 1: the Chargers.
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 2: But you should know the Colts better than the Rams
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 2: know the Colts. They shouldn't have to lean on on him. Okay,
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 2: who else that's about?
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 1: I mean, they've already played the Niners once, they.
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 4: Played the Seahawks, Titans.
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 2: Once, Cardinals. Don't they play the.
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 1: Cardinals, Titans, and Texans. They played the Cardinals like late
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 1: though late last.
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 2: The Cardinals is the one TV you might lean on.
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 1: They're both in December.
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, give mc call early December. Find out what they got.
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 1: Merry Christmas. By the way, tell us about this quarterback.
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 2: Keep Kyler Murray in the pocket. You'll win the games
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 2: you want. I can give him that information.
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 4: That's just all you gotta do is turn on the
• 1:26:07
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• 1:26:10
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• 1:27:15
  Speaker 1: That's the important part. Got to have that in there,
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  Speaker 1: Go Jags. Let's go around the National Football League.
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  Speaker 4: Six teams on a bye this week, the Cardinals, Raiders, Lions, Rams, Seahawks,
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 4: and yes, your Jacksonville Jaguars. Thursday, the Chargers over the
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 4: Vikings thirty seven to ten. We talked about that Chargers team,
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 4: but they're coming in here in three weeks.
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  Speaker 1: Pete, how'd they look?
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  Speaker 2: Well?
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  Speaker 5: They look good, I mean, herb, They still don't run
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 5: the ball well enough though.
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  Speaker 2: That's a problem. But Herbert spun it and spun it well.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, they got playmakers down the field too, and
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 5: Ronda Gas and the rookie tight end is starting to.
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  Speaker 2: Make plays all over the place too.
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  Speaker 5: So it's gonna be a tough That's gonna be a
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 5: tough game for the defense for sure.
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  Speaker 6: Thoughts and prayers go out to Carson Wentz's elbow as well,
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 6: who's at the looked like it was ready to fall
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 6: off like that.
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 1: Dude was like bandage together that game.
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 5: Man.
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 2: They put him on injured reserve today.
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Was McCarthy going to be back or
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 1: what was his deal?
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 2: He's supposed to be back. Yeah, he'll be back this week.
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 5: And by the way, before you get into every each
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 5: and every game, it was one of the worst Sundays
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 5: that I've ever had watching games.
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 2: It was all this schedule was terrible.
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 1: Oh, the schedule, the games, and the games were awful.
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 4: Maybe had a bad setup at Fort CBS.
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 6: Look at the games about Bengals nail back.
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 1: What do we got that's yours? We'll get to that.
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Dolphins over the Falcons at thirty four to ten,
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 4: and I saw pee. People were giving you grief on
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 4: Twitter that you were bashing the Falcons rolling given Vjon
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 4: the ball what nine times in the game.
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 5: And they keep saying, well, the Dolphins try. I watched
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 5: the tape today. The Dolphins did everything they could just stop.
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  Speaker 2: Look.
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 5: V Jon Robinson gets the ball nine times against a
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 5: defensive savage and five yard to carry per carry against
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 5: There's something wrong with that plan. I don't care if
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 5: you play all eleven in the box, you're gonna run
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 5: the football with the Jon Robinson.
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 2: Stupid decision by the Falcons.
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 4: Ravens over the Bears thirty to sixteen. Big win for
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 4: the Ravens. They needed it too to try to keep
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 4: their season going.
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 2: Survival. That was survival.
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Bill's blasted the Panthers. They do what good teams
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 4: do and blow out the opponent. We talked about that earlier. Hey, Austin, here's.
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 1: Your game j thirty nine Bengals thirty eight. How to
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 1: go Absolutely send him.
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 6: I mean, you got Woody Johnson calling out your starting quarterback,
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 6: you know, and everything, and Justin Field shows up, puts
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 6: on a performance, but he gets the job done, and yeah,
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 6: shout out to the Jets, finally not winless anymore, and
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 6: Aaron Glenn lives to see another week.
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 2: I feel like the Bengal should be embarrassed.
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 5: You're all of a sudden you have life in that
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 5: division and you give a five hundred and ten yards
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 5: to the Jets seven point two per play.
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 2: Wow, never should happen.
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 4: Texan's over the forty nine ers twenty six to fifth team.
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 4: Are the Texans real enough to get back in this thing?
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 5: Well, they played the Broncos this week, so we'll know
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 5: a lot more about him when that.
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 2: Against the Broncos, the offense looked good. They didn't have Collins.
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 5: They threw to a bunch of you know, those young
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 5: players Noel and Higgins and Hutchinson, and they may play.
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 2: So they're good on defense. We know that. Also, they're
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 2: gonna be tough to be taking a week out.
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 6: Also, Marx is starting to prove to be kind of
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 6: like a dynamic running back as well. Man like you
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 6: had Nick Chubb, who was kind of you know, he's
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 6: on the back nine of his.
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 1: Career, can do a couple of things good.
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 6: It feels like now Marx is a great ball runner
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 6: but also a great receiver. In that backfield as well,
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 6: makes that offense a little more dynamic, much like Mixon
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 6: did when he was.
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  Speaker 2: Up Hey, by the way, Austin back nine, he might
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 2: be on eighteen.
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he might go to the clubhouse man. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 4: Patriots over the Browns thirty two thirteen Miles Garrett was
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 4: a huge day and a losing effort didn't matter what
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 4: in the world.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, Will Campbell couldn't block them. Nobody could block them.
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 2: Five sacks, but they're so limited offensively, and Patriots are
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 2: pretty good. I mean, Drake he's good.
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 1: He's number one in the league in rating right now.
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's he's the right now.
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 5: If you have to say who's the best quarterback in
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 5: that class, including Daniels who's not played in most of
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 5: the season, it's it's Drake May.
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 6: Because its bonus that class as well. But no, I'm
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 6: giving Drake May above Bucks right now.
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 4: You have to tell you what bow Knicks made a
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 4: couple throws in that game against Dallas.
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 1: It was like, well, eye.
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 2: Opening, that's playing against the air.
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 4: Okay, fair, Eagles over the Giants thirty eight to twenty.
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 4: Bucks over the Saints twenty three to three. In that
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 4: Broncos game over the Cowboys forty four twenty four, the.
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 1: One I'm reference.
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 4: He's one right before halftime, Pete bo Knicks throws at back,
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 4: left corner, and yeah, that was was.
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 2: It's good to see him do that because he hadn't
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 2: been doing it all year. He'd been inconsistent, so it's
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 2: good for him.
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 5: Well, I want to see him in that offense against
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 5: that Texans defense this week.
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 2: I think that that's gonna be a real test.
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 4: For that Love that Colts over the Titans thirty eight
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 4: to fourteen, the Packers over the Steamers thirty five twenty five,
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 4: and the tight end Tucker Craft geez, oh my gosh.
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 5: Well it's National tight Ends Day and they all had days.
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 5: I mean a lot of tight ends called touchdown passes.
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 5: But Jordan Love was phenomenal.
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 1: By the way.
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean this is the Packers team I thought
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 5: i'd see when I picked them to go to the
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 5: Super Bowl, and by the way, I picked them before
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 5: Michael Parsons got there. Because that offense is going and
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 5: Golden didn't even do anything was right that you look
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 5: at that offense. I get Watson back, he's a field stretcher.
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 5: You got that tight end working in the middle of
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 5: the field. Now you got those other Dobs and Golden
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 5: and they can run the ball with Jacobs, and the
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 5: offensive line is big and strong and Love is playing well.
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 5: That team is for real. I said this in the
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 5: top my power rank is for tomorrow. The games were awful,
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 5: but three teams serve notice. On Sunday, Remember, all we
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 5: heard about was what's.
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 2: Wrong with the Bills. What's wrong with the Bills. The
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 2: Panthers are so physical. Look how physical they are. They
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 2: are not running anybody.
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 5: The Bills beat them up across the board on Sunday,
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 5: they beat the daylights out of them. Two the Eagles
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 5: got back to Barkley running the football, right, Yeah, that's
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 5: the Eagles show there. The Eagles and that Packers showed
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 5: that they can score with anybody.
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 2: And Love is legitimate.
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 6: Yeah, being from Wisconsin here all the time about you know,
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 6: the Packers this year and everything, it's just it's wild
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 6: how they go from Brett Favre to Aaron Rodgers to
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 6: now Jordan Love, which seems like, you know, he's taking
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 6: the torch and doing his thing as well, Like that's
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 6: not a football.
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 1: Supposed to work. They're supposed to go back to back
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 1: to back.
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 6: Great quarterback play when you get a certain time and
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 6: you know in the doll gyms a little bit, not.
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 2: In Green Bay. Oh, by the way, you know this, Austin.
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 5: If you could score those turning Micah Parsons been running
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 5: Rashan Gary loose, that's gonna be a good defense no
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 5: matter who's playing on the back.
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 1: Absolutely. Monday Night Football.
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 4: It's a battle of playoff teams from a year ago,
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 4: though Washington Commanders three and four. They're without quarterback Jaydon
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 4: Daniels again as they had to Kansas City to take
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 4: on Pantrick Mahomes and the four and three Chiefs.
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 1: Oh, you got an arrow ahead to night.
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 2: Oh, come on, you're taking Marcus Mariota. You can have
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 2: Marcus Mariota. I'm taking batter Mahomes. The Chiefs, by the way,
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 2: are now cooking. Rice is back.
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 5: The line is good, they're cooking. I'm taking the Chiefs
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 5: blowout City. And by the way, if they win, they
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 5: will be the seventh seat, move ahead of Jacksonville by
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 5: playing one more game?
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 1: Correct? Correct? Is that a lock pete the Chiefs?
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a lot. Hell yeah, they're in a home
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 2: so I can lock it.
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 6: Yeah, okay, what do you think I mean? Can you
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 6: go back to back locks in one segment? I mean, yeah,
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 6: hit it one more time? Locking right here, boom my ears.
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 1: I like it. I love that lock it in.
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 4: The picks are in on Monday night football and they're
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 4: both going with the Kansas City She's hey, Pete, your
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 4: number one fan is celebrating his seventy.
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 1: Eighth birthday today.
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 4: By the way, who's that John Shadrick and Trustville, Alabama?
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 5: Oh, seventy eight today, Happy birthday, Papa Shadwick Chadrick is JP.
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 2: I got to tell you this to you.
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I know how much your dad loves me because
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 5: I take away all your airtime.
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 4: It is he loves you, man, love you.
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 2: No, he does it, No, he does it.
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 5: He does now because I'd made a mockery of the
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 5: whole thing that he doesn't like me.
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 2: So he's now part of the show. So he loves me.
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but I thought i'd throw that in there.
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 2: So seventy eight huh nice? Yeah, I hope he enjoys it.
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 2: By not. Did he spend it two hours listening to
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 2: this show?
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 1: I think he does it every Monday. Yeah, oh wow,
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 1: every Monday all two hours.
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 5: Well, happy birthday, pops about it, many many hopefully many
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 5: many more.
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 1: No doubt about it. He's doing great, all right.
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 4: So the Jags are on the practice field today, They're
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 4: off tomorrow, Tuesday, back at it Wednesday, and here we go.
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 4: The stretch run is upon us. Ten games to go
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 4: for the next five on the road. How you feeling
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 4: about these?
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 2: You know?
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 6: I mean, at the end of the day, it's gonna
• 1:36:02
  Speaker 6: be a tough stretch be on the road right that long.
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 1: It's gonna be tough.
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 6: But it's one week at a time, right, And and
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 6: you can't look too far ahead, like this is me
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 6: and you have been saying this. This is the most
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 6: important game I think of the year, is this Raiders game.
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 1: And it's a game that you.
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 2: Locked it already.
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 6: So we're seeing two weeks difference.
• 1:36:24
  Speaker 1: To the show, to the whole deal. In Vegas. It's fine,
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 1: don't see a show, have fun, you know.
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 5: You know what, if you have a walker little you
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 5: gotta block back Crosby, who cares.
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 2: He locked it already.
• 1:36:34
  Speaker 1: That's fine. Ships playing or not. Probably he's gonna play.
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 2: I don't know, it's probably gonna play.
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 4: Yeah, they'll chip him. It's Crosbie. They'll put le Quinn
• 1:36:45
  Speaker 4: Allen in his ribs a time or two.
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 2: He's a maniac. By the way. Crosby plays the game
• 1:36:52
  Speaker 2: like a madman.
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 5: From what I was told. He jumps outside a lot
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 5: of gaps and stuff. But he's allowed to.
• 1:36:59
  Speaker 2: Do whatever he wants. Did you know that he wants to.
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 6: If you watch him play, like, I feel like he
• 1:37:05
  Speaker 6: kind of has pre ran of that defense. I mean
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 6: he's he is the Raiders, like they've given him the money.
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 6: He kind of runs that town. Yeah, he does what
• 1:37:12
  Speaker 6: he wants.
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 2: I love watching him play.
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 4: Yeah, when you produce, you can do pretty much what
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 4: you want.
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 1: Uh, Pete will do it again next week? How about that?
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 5: After after the lock and if it doesn't work.
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 1: It's gonna be a long month. I see you guys
• 1:37:30
  Speaker 1: in five weeks if that's the case.
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Austin Lane, I'm j p sha thanks sorry time. Yeah,
• 1:37:37
  Speaker 4: old boy, indeed, that would be quite I hope we
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 4: don't have.
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 1: To go there.
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 6: We're gonna do a Jaggs pregame show, just shaking hoping
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 6: we can get this done.
• 1:37:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, let's go.
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  Speaker 4: Joe Fortunado, Brett Reeber, our entire crew. Thanks to you
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 4: for listening and watching. It's Jaguars Happy Hour.