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Jaguars Happy Hour: Thursday, December 5 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: Celebrating twenty five years of Jack War's foot Want to
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  Speaker 1: play by Will Blackwyn. That's the biggest play you could make.
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  Speaker 1: Quatfecta Sat Colstable recovered bubble Touchdown. It is Thursday, December five.
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  Speaker 1: This is Jack Wise Happy Hour and now a guy
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  Speaker 1: who doesn't need a holiday and a half his chest
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  Speaker 1: nuts roasted jap happens every afternoon on this show. Welcome
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  Speaker 1: to Jaguar's Happy Hour. My name's j. P. Shadrick. That's
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  Speaker 1: Jeff Lockerman. That might be the best intro ever. It
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  Speaker 1: was okay we've had on this show. No, it's I
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  Speaker 1: think it's the best. Pretty good. It's pretty good considering
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  Speaker 1: some of the my cause my cleats cleats this week.
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  Speaker 1: Have you seen some of these? I have, I have
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  Speaker 1: seen some of them. They look good, especially one quarter.
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  Speaker 1: They look Now. I'm a big thing end of logan
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  Speaker 1: Logan cook one. What are you talking about? Oh yeah,
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  Speaker 1: what's unh uh? He has the uh take a basically
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  Speaker 1: benefits taking kids hunting and fishing. It's catch a dream.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm cool. I'm a big fan of that.
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  Speaker 1: That's good stuff. Love that. That's all coming up this week.
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  Speaker 1: The Jags and the Chargers game in week fourteen. Right
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  Speaker 1: around the corner at four oh five Sunday, here's what's
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  Speaker 1: coming up on the show today. The quarterback change will
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  Speaker 1: break all that down. Coming up. Jags looking for just
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  Speaker 1: to win, just get get in the right direction. We'll
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  Speaker 1: see how they can do that. They're facing Philip Rivers.
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  Speaker 1: They haven't done that a lot against Rivers over the
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  Speaker 1: history of this matchup the Chargers and the Jags. Four
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  Speaker 1: games left in the season, and we'll go around the
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  Speaker 1: a f C South all that coming up. Four games left, yes,
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  Speaker 1: four games left the final chore season. You're kind of
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  Speaker 1: counting them down. That the stretch for me, and that's
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  Speaker 1: I know, players and coaches, I mean, they've got a
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  Speaker 1: job to do, and their job is to win football games.
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  Speaker 1: But I think most people outside of that are are
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  Speaker 1: counting it down because mathematically they're alive. Reality they're not.
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  Speaker 1: They're out of the playoff race. It's done. So do
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  Speaker 1: you ever watch that movie Dumb and Dumber saying there's
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  Speaker 1: a chance, there is, but it's gonna take a lot
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  Speaker 1: of help. In reality, it ain't happening. Jp they're playing
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  Speaker 1: for their resume. Here's the reality. There's a chance mathematically,
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  Speaker 1: but it's very small. And you're talking about a football
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  Speaker 1: team that has lost the last four games by an
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  Speaker 1: average of twenty point five points. That's a lot, okay,
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  Speaker 1: So to say that they mathematically have a possibility that
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  Speaker 1: would be accurate, but that's a long way from something
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  Speaker 1: that actually will occur. I mean, you're you're you're struggling
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  Speaker 1: right now as a football team in so many different ways,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, as a as an offense, as a defense, organizationally,
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  Speaker 1: the it's not good right now. And uh, I think
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  Speaker 1: a lot of people are are less concerned about what
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  Speaker 1: happens in these four games and are more concerned about
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  Speaker 1: what happens after these four games because people are expecting change. Uh.
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  Speaker 1: Fans are expecting change, uh. And that and that's natural.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it's professional sports, is is a is not
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  Speaker 1: a very patient deal, especially well especially you know, especially
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  Speaker 1: an organization that has not had a lot of winning
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  Speaker 1: like this one. I mean, we were hoping that it
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  Speaker 1: was gonna be the new new, But the farther we
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  Speaker 1: get away from it, the more it's become just an
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  Speaker 1: aberration instead of instead of the norm. You know, because
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  Speaker 1: you consistently are trying to always build a consistent winner,
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  Speaker 1: and the consistent winning has not found its way into
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  Speaker 1: Jacksonville yet, and that's some point you need. You need
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  Speaker 1: to institute some type of change that that brings that
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  Speaker 1: to the forefront. And and until you do, it's gonna
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  Speaker 1: be some more of the same. Possibly the biggest change
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  Speaker 1: on the field last week at the quarterback position, Nick
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  Speaker 1: Foles pulled from the game at halftime. Gardner mins you
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  Speaker 1: finished the game, and then it was announced on Monday
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  Speaker 1: that gardnerments you will be the starting quarterback the rest
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  Speaker 1: of the way, starting this week against the Los Angeles Chargers.
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  Speaker 1: Mence You, of course started eight games earlier in the season.
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  Speaker 1: What did he learn from those experiences? We heard from
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  Speaker 1: the quarterback this week. A lot of times when you're planning,
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  Speaker 1: you've got a million different things that you're having to
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  Speaker 1: focus in on, uh, and you kind of lose some
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  Speaker 1: of the bigger stuff. Uh, I guess I should say
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  Speaker 1: something smaller stuff sometimes. UM, But when you when you're
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  Speaker 1: out of that role, you can kind of step back
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  Speaker 1: and see the little details and UM, it was a
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  Speaker 1: really good experience for me. So that he's talking about
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  Speaker 1: being set back down on the bench behind Nick Foles
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  Speaker 1: a few weeks they and having a having it slowed
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  Speaker 1: down a little bit, and maybe you know, in a
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  Speaker 1: game environment, it comes at your quick. On the sideline
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  Speaker 1: you can see somebody else go through it. And that's
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  Speaker 1: at least the way he put it this week. Well,
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  Speaker 1: I think you're you're always in a position that you
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  Speaker 1: can learn, whether you're playing or whether you're watching or whatever.
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  Speaker 1: And I think sometimes it is good to take a
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  Speaker 1: step back and to kind of re evaluate where you
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  Speaker 1: were at versus where the game is at and where
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  Speaker 1: you need to be at. And so I think there
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  Speaker 1: is some benefit for a young player playing for a
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  Speaker 1: while and then stepping away and then watching someone else
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  Speaker 1: do it, and then coming back into the lineup. Uh,
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  Speaker 1: and then also having having the chance and and I
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  Speaker 1: know a lot of people are down on Nick Foles,
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  Speaker 1: and look, I get it, but also having an opportunity
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  Speaker 1: to watch Nick Foles how he goes about his business,
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  Speaker 1: because look, Nick Foles is a pro. Uh. People are
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  Speaker 1: have a right to criticize him for his play. And
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  Speaker 1: I understand that I wasn't a big fan of the
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  Speaker 1: booing so much or the Minshoe chance, although I have
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  Speaker 1: it's part. It's pro sports, and look, you gotta have
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  Speaker 1: thick you gotta have thick skin, and and that's the
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  Speaker 1: way it is. I get it. I mean, hell, I
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  Speaker 1: was booed when I was drafted. I wasn't even in
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  Speaker 1: the NFL, and I was getting my rear end booed.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I get it. I mean, look, I mean
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  Speaker 1: that's part of the t I mean back then, I
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  Speaker 1: had to have thick skin. I went to a a
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  Speaker 1: tough market where they weren't really thrilled with the hometown
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  Speaker 1: team drafting me. And uh, that's just the way life goes.
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  Speaker 1: And you move on. And so Nick Foles will have
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  Speaker 1: to move on and Minho was just gonna have to
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  Speaker 1: accept the fact that quarterbacks get booed. At some point,
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  Speaker 1: maybe he gets booed, and hopefully he doesn't. But yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I'm excited to watch him play because when he came in,
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  Speaker 1: there was a very apparent lift of whatever you wanna
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  Speaker 1: call it. Something changed. Uh, there's a little sparks, some energy,
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  Speaker 1: whatever that word. But it wasn't. But it wasn't just
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  Speaker 1: in the stadium, because you can feel the energy change
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  Speaker 1: in the stadium because the people that were wanting Minshew
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  Speaker 1: in the lineup got him. But then all of a sudden,
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  Speaker 1: the defense comes out in the in the first half,
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  Speaker 1: and uh and they do a good job of getting
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  Speaker 1: a sack cast fumble. Well wait a minute, where was
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  Speaker 1: the defense the whole first half? Where were the big
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  Speaker 1: plays in the first half? And uh, So it wasn't
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  Speaker 1: just offense, it was offense, it was in the stands,
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  Speaker 1: it was with the defense. And and I said this
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  Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago. We're talking about Minshew and
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  Speaker 1: him having moxie, and uh, and I that moxie seemed
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  Speaker 1: to carry itself over into other aspects of this football team.
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  Speaker 1: The the disappointing thing is that this game was so
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  Speaker 1: close to being I mean a game. I'm talking, hold
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  Speaker 1: onto the seat of your pants. This thing is back
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  Speaker 1: being a football game. And all it took was one
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  Speaker 1: more score that have been down seven. And people say, well, deed,
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  Speaker 1: he should have caught the ball. Okay. Uh. People say, well,
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  Speaker 1: the Jaguars should have run the football every down on
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  Speaker 1: first and goal from the one. Well, here's what I
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  Speaker 1: say to that, and to all that on first down
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  Speaker 1: of Fleonard, Fournette goes the right way, it's a walk
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  Speaker 1: in touchdown. On first and goal at the one on
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  Speaker 1: third down, which was the interception. Yeah, did he would
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  Speaker 1: know he's opportunity, He's got his hands on the ball,
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  Speaker 1: catch it right, Uh, not an easy catch. Well, on
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  Speaker 1: that play, I would say, well, Gardner, Minster has gotta
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  Speaker 1: make the right throw. And that's that was said in
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  Speaker 1: the media this week as well. Gardner said that d
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  Speaker 1: Filippa that today an opportunity. Yeah, there was keeling call
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  Speaker 1: all on the end zone. So there's three things that
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  Speaker 1: could have and and if one of those three things happens,
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  Speaker 1: now you've got a seven point game. A seven point
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  Speaker 1: game in which you had a game that that there
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  Speaker 1: was there was no belief, no chance that this team
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  Speaker 1: was going to get back in. It was twenty five nothing.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, look, I wish I wish it. I wish
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  Speaker 1: they had made the play to make it a seven
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  Speaker 1: point game, because then it would have been. It was
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  Speaker 1: getting close to being fun, but not quite. The big
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  Speaker 1: picture question now around the quarterback position, there are a
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  Speaker 1: couple of big picture questions around the team. Of course,
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  Speaker 1: are you know what the decision who will be making
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  Speaker 1: the decisions at quarterback? But then the smaller question about
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  Speaker 1: the quarterback is what is the future for Nick Foles
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  Speaker 1: at the position? Now? Well, I don't think anybody knows.
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  Speaker 1: Well I do know this. It doesn't make any sense
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  Speaker 1: to let in the future. I don't care who's making
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  Speaker 1: the decisions. I mean, you're you're gave fifty something million guaranteed,
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  Speaker 1: and what are you gonna do? You cut that and
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  Speaker 1: absorb another even bigger dead money cap pit by letting
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  Speaker 1: Nick Foles go. I mean, I think that's part of
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  Speaker 1: the problems organizationally that you've had. I mean, you sign
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  Speaker 1: Bordles to an extension and gave him I think twenty
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  Speaker 1: six million guaranteed, and now you've got all this dead
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  Speaker 1: money that's stuck on your cat this year and he's
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  Speaker 1: not even on your football team. And then and now
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  Speaker 1: you've got the same type situation again. And uh, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: as an owner, you can't be happy with that. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: we're we're talking we're talking real money. First of all,
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  Speaker 1: it's real money, Okay, that's that's tangible touch cash money,
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  Speaker 1: col Harp cash money. Number two, it affects your ability
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  Speaker 1: to do other things. When I say other things, well,
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  Speaker 1: does it affect your ability to to go acquire a
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  Speaker 1: free agent? Yes, does it affect your ability to keep
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  Speaker 1: more of your own guys. Yes, So so these are
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  Speaker 1: the decisions that have have hampered this franchise. And that
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  Speaker 1: can't happen when you pay that kind of money. You've
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  Speaker 1: got to be able to be getting something for your money.
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  Speaker 1: So the future Nick Foles, I think it's gonna be
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  Speaker 1: on this football team. Just from a cap standpoint, wouldn't
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  Speaker 1: make sense to let him go and then eat up
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  Speaker 1: the dead money and not even get a backup out
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  Speaker 1: of it. So and wh who's to say that next year,
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  Speaker 1: all of a a sudden, you've got an open competition and
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  Speaker 1: it's and maybe it's a three way competition. Maybe you
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  Speaker 1: have a high picked first round rookie and then Gardner
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  Speaker 1: Minshew and Nick falls and say best man win, Good luck, gentlemen.
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  Speaker 1: And there would be absolutely nothing wrong with that in
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  Speaker 1: my book, because you can never have too many quarterbacks.
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  Speaker 1: You have to constantly search and tell you you do
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  Speaker 1: not rest until you find your franchise guy and I
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  Speaker 1: and look at Gardner Minshew has such a small sample
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  Speaker 1: size you're not gonna sit there and go, oh yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: we we we've got our quarterback. We're good. He's got
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  Speaker 1: plenty of the same thing about Leonard four Nette. Just
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  Speaker 1: because you draft the Leonard four net, does that make
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  Speaker 1: you stop drafting running backs? No, it shouldn't. It probably
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  Speaker 1: stops you from drafting him in the top ten. But well, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I mean it might change that night. But here's still
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  Speaker 1: have to have players. Yeah, and there's another guy in
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  Speaker 1: the top ten. It's gonna be better than him. I
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  Speaker 1: mean I'm talking way better, like generation, like Adrian Peterson
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  Speaker 1: or something. So right, there's there's a It's gonna be
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  Speaker 1: an interesting four weeks and then then it gets real
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  Speaker 1: welcome back to Jaguars. Happy our JP Shatrick with Jeff
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  Speaker 1: on defense though, with the big news today of Miles
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  Speaker 1: Jack going on an injured reserve. He missed last week's
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: game and now he's gonna miss the rest of the
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: games this season. He's done. Miles Jack done for the year.
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  Speaker 1: Logs what kind of I think when he was out there?
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  Speaker 1: Not a very good one. I mean, if you look,
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  Speaker 1: if you if you if you've put the standard at
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  Speaker 1: being the the year that he had two years ago
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  Speaker 1: or or compared to like Lesnis years, Miles Jack was
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  Speaker 1: not having not having a good year. He had a
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  Speaker 1: he had a good stretch, you know, good stretch of
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: games there for a little bit. We're talking about the
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: the games against uh, the Saints he played pretty well, Bengals,
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  Speaker 1: he played pretty well, the Jets, he played pretty well.
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  Speaker 1: I thought Cincinnati might might have been his best game
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  Speaker 1: if you're talking about probably the worst football team that
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  Speaker 1: they played, I mean, and arguably the worst football team
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  Speaker 1: that there is in the NFL this year. You know,
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  Speaker 1: so oh no, I mean, he wasn't having a good year.
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  Speaker 1: It's disappointing. Obviously, send the big contract before the season
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  Speaker 1: and then this was gonna be okay, let's see. This
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  Speaker 1: is where he takes off and proves all that. And well,
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  Speaker 1: when you when you get he didn't, when you get
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: a contract extension and uh And like I've always said this,
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: it's never about the money. But when you do get one,
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: I think as a player, your natural reaction is and look,
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: you want to play well because you don't ever want
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: to give people the impression. And I'm not saying that
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: that Miles the level of play that he exhibited was
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: a result of the contract. I'm not saying that, but
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: as a player, when you do get a contract, whether
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: you're Andrew Norwell or Miles jack or whoever, uh the
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: quarterback Nick Foles, you always want to have your level
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: of play at a certain level to where people go, oh, yeah,
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: he's worth it, you know. And when it's not there, then, uh,
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: the voices or the criticism seemed to get a little
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: bit louder. And I get it. I understand it. It's
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: professional football, and in some cases it's warranted. In some
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: cases it's not. I think some people are educated about
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: it and understand what the expectations are. I think some
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: people are a little bit unrealistic because some people expect
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: just because a guy gets, for example, Nick Fole twenty
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: two million a year, he should lead us to a
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: super Bowl. Oh there's a lot of quarterbacks out there
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: that we're making twenty two million, and they're not all
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: going to super Bowl. It's just part of the deal,
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: you know. It's part of the economics of of paying
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: professional athletes. Now, with Miles Jack down, let's take a
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: look at the linebacker room. Now for the Jacksonville Jaguars.
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: It is Jake Ryan is up ly and Leon Jacobs
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: is up. Donald Payne started at middle linebacker last week.
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: He was on the street a few weeks ago, sitting
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: on the couch. Quincy Williams has been here all year,
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: but he was out of the line up. A good
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: bit of rookie awesome. And then Joe Giles Harris promoted
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: again from the practice squad today when Miles Jack went down,
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: and you look at the injury deserve guys. Of course,
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: now Miles Jack, nag Good, DJ Alexander on Walla. Those
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: guys were earlier in the season, but that's a it's
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: a thin group on that linebacker. Well. And Jake Ryan
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: came back off the nf I Non foot Football Injury
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: list last week and he's been playing special teams only
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: the last week, and I can tell you he's not
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: ready to play. You watch him on on special teams
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: and he's he's favoring the knee that he had had injured.
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: It doesn't appear that he he runs full speed. I
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: think that was maybe one of those things. Well, hey,
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: let's let's get him out there and maybe maybe he
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: can get back up to speeds while he's playing, and
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: I hope he does. I mean because look, I mean,
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: when you when you're out for that long, he's missed
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: a lot of time, a lot of football, and it's
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: it's probably hard to get back up to speed. But
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: my opinion from watching him in this past week's game,
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: he's not ready. You know, so you gotta you got
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: a linebacking courts. That's pretty thin. You're looking at a
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: lot of undrafted guys that are gonna be taking some time.
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: The newly promoted Giles Harris off the practice squad. He
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: was an undrafted guy from Duke. Donald Payne was an
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: undrafted guy from the Baltimore Ravens. I think callitro is
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: even an undrafted guy. Uh Quincy Williams hasn't been playing
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: all that well. I think Leon Jacobs I think it's
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: played pretty well this year when given the opportunity. He
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: had a sack last week. Um, but I mean, this
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: defense right now is two things. One, it's struggling to
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: stay healthy and I think it's also number two. I
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: think it's struggling to find talent. That's the reality. That's
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: where they are right now. This is this is it
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: just the back end of the of the defense last week.
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: I want to say that there was at one point
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: there was like four out of the five undrafted guys,
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: and maybe all four at the same time when they're
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: in base personnel. All of the secondary members were all undrafted.
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: That includes a G boy, a who's now he has
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: been an All probe, he was undrafted. I mean, I'm
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: not trying to criticize make them make that a negative point.
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: I'm just trying to point that out that I mean,
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: it can be a negative. But in a J Boy's case,
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: I'm not saying that that's a negative because he has
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: been a pro bowler. But I will say a J
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: didn't play great last week. But the other guys are young,
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: you know, and in one of them, you just you
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: just shipped out in Brion Borders, who was an undrafted guy,
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: and uh, you released him. So life comes at you
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: fast in the NFL. And uh, the guy that they
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: promoted this week, I'm sure we're gonna see him, Perry Nickerson.
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: Now we haven't even mentioned him. He was activated from
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: the practice squad because Brian Borders was released. Nickerson, who
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: was a six round pick of the Jets back in
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: the eight team, has been on the practice squad. Doesn't
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: have the size that the Brion Borders has, but you know,
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: hopefully he can he can show something when give an
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: opportunity or if he gets an opportunity. Philip Rivers is
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: six and two all time against the Jaguars. The two
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: losses were against the last two Jaguars playoff teams. Years
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: at seven and um, he's been very good against this
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: team passing yards. That's nearly three game, twenty one touchdowns,
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: five picks against one touchdowns, five interceptions all time against
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: the Jacks. Pretty good, yes, And he he's had a
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: passer rating of over one five four times out of
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: those eight games. He has been outstanding against this Jaguars
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: football team. And uh, he played better last week for
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: the Chargers. And I'm gonna try to not say the
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: hometown of the Chargers. That's my goal this whole week,
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: for the rest of the week is to not say
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: l A or San Diego because I will screw it
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: up and I will say San Diego. I've already done
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: it once. You already said it today, did I did
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: I already say it? Well, just now you just said
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: San Diego. Just gonna be in your head but but
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: I'm not saying it anymore. Charge, I'm going just Chargers Chargers. Yeah, Argers, Chargers. Charger.
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: He has been the Chargers quarterback his old crews. Now
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: he's been pretty good. And last week he played better
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: against a Broncos football team that was starting a rookie.
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: H had over a hundred rating and one of six rading.
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: The previous two games, he was pretty pathetic. Seven picks
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: in those two games combined, and he literally cost his
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: team in football games. And both the games against Oakland
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: and Kansas City, he was not good, and uh, he
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: was playing at the level. Put it this way, he
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: was playing like if the head coach is gonna have
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: to make a decision, he would think about if. Okay,
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: he continued on. Philip Rivers continued on that path and
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: goes and shows up against the Broncos and plays like
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: that again. As a head coach, you gotta think about
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: pulling a Dug Marone taking him out, right, I mean,
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: it's tough to take that guy out of all I mean,
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: you're talking about a guy who's six all time and
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: passing yards. Yes, phenomenal. Right, Taylor, come on down, replacing
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: Philip Rivers for Tyrod Taylor. Let that settle in for you.
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: Let that settle in from Hey, if you're playing bad,
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: you're playing bad. You know this is a team, though,
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: and you got to give him the opportunity to bounce back.
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: I mean, you're you're talking about a possible Hall of Famer,
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: and a couple of years ago, I remember watching Philip
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: Rivers and I said he was done then. And also
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: he had arguably one of the best years he's ever
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: had when he got Ken Wizzen Hunt back as an
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: offensive coordinator. Well, he said Ken this year, Ken got
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: fired earlier in the year. And then they've promoted another
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: guy to be the offensive coordinator this year. And the
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: new offensive coordinator has been in place for four games,
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: and I want to make sure Shane Steaching, I think,
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: is how you pronounce his name. And they've run the
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: ball a lot more. And uh, from all indications, the
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: way they've been running that offense this year, and especially
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: with the new offensive coordinator, it is very apparent that
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: they don't trust Philip Rivers to win any more football
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: games by himself. Melvin Gordon held out early in the
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: season and took him a few games to the decision.
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: The last four games or so, he's gotten some yards better,
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: He's been gotten better. But what a mistake. Who who
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: is advising him to hold out going into his fifth
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: year when he was a first round pick and they
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: have his rights because they had the option on him,
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: they exercise the option. He's gonna hold out for what?
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: You think you're gonna get a new contract, And you
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: think you're Ezekiel Elliott. This is a this is a guy.
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: He had one he had a thousand yards season one time,
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: one time and it wasn't even last year. But yeah,
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: you're gonna hold out and try to get a contract extension.
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: And all it did is it It hurt himself and
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: it hurt the Chargers football team. And I don't think
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: they recovered from it, and and it's a shame. And
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: he's a good football player. And I remember when he
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: was coming out in the draft, Melvin Gordon, and I'll say,
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: this is Wisconsin guy, right, Yeah, he's a Wisconsin guy.
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: He in that draft because it was him and Todd
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: Gurley and uh and watching both of them, Gurley I
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: thought was the better back. But man, when you talked
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: about open field running, Melvin Gordon was by far the
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: best open field runner or space runner that there was
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: in that draft. He was special, really special, and uh
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: and he's a good football player and he's starting to
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: get that groove again yet I think twenty carries for
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: ninety nine yards against the Broncos past game, and they've
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: made a concerted effort to give him the football. But
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: it's not just him, Eckler, the running back who is
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: their backup and who was kind of their bell cow
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: until until Gordon got back into lineup. I mean, this
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: guy is on taste for a thousand yards receiving. It's
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: amazing from running back. Doesn't happen often. Now he's got
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: he's got more catches, I think then Leonard Fournette, he's
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: got sixty nine and what's four Nette got right over
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: six or five, So he's got four more catches than
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: Leonard four Nette. And he's got, uh what he got receiving,
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: He's got seven eighteen yards receiving with what four games
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: to go? Yeah, it's pretty good. He's on They throw
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: it around. Not many running backs in league history have
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: ever been at a thousand. I know Roger Craig. I
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: think Marshall Falk might have been able to do it, Um,
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: sure who else has done it? U? Gosh, there's only
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: a handful. I mean there's the there's not a lot,
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: by the way before net Larry Centers. Larry Centers do
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: it for the Cardinals. Well four net this year, four
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: four yards receiving on catches. Um. We'll touch on that
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  Speaker 1: I like what Gardner said there. He wants to beat
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: the crap out of the guy lined up across from him,
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: doesn't need any extra motivation. I love that kind of thing, man,
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: That's what it's about. It's good. I mean, look, there's
• 34:40
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  Speaker 1: but he's what he's talk He wants to win and
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: uh and that's good. I mean, that's uh that I
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  Speaker 1: driveway with your kid, want to win and uh, and
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: I like that. I'll have that attitude. So hopefully there's
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  Speaker 1: a lot of guys that has that type of attitude
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: to have will have that type of attitude this weekend,
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: because I can tell you I've been on football teams
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: where the the the season is is lost and uh,
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: there's nothing on the horizon that you're looking for that
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: you can tangibly touch as far as reward wise. And
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: it's not easy to play motivated football. It's not. That's
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: when you you gotta start digging deep and saying, hey, look,
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: I'm a pro, and I wear my name on my
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: back and everything that I do, my actions and and
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  Speaker 1: And I have to make sure that people see what
• 35:49
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• 35:52
  Speaker 1: to do. Gus Bradley, the defensive coordinator for the Los
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: Angeles should say that that's not easy for some to do.
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: Correct others can. For some it's it's just natural. You
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: just do it, but some sometimes not. Some others don't.
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: And as coaches are the same way. There's some coaches
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: that that are putting their nose to the grindstone and
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: trying to help this football team or trying to help
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: their football team. And there's other coaches that get in
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: a scenario like this and the doors closed to the office,
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: they're on the phone. They're taking long walks and taking
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: breaks to dial people up on the phone, try to
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: find their next job or line up their next job
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: instead of worrying about taking care of business right now.
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: And that's that's an at I mean, it's it's natural,
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: and I'm sure there's people that can do both all right,
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: then get a team ready in work the phones for
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: their next job. So it's a it's an unfortunate kind
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: of a deal. That's the way it is. Let's talk
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: about this Chargers defense now. Gus Bradley still the coordinator there,
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: but they have it's some really good pass rushers, obviously,
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: Joey Bosa, Melvin Ingram. The guys can get home both
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: of this year with forty six tackles, eight and a
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: half sacks, thirty four quarterback hits. Is that right? That can? Right?
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: That's a lot. Yeah, he wasn't very good this pass
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: game against Denver. He uh, he missed some tackles the
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: what's running back for Denver Lindsay Philip Linds. He was
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: not very good against Philip Lindsay. I didn't do a
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: great job of getting pressure. But I mean, look for
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: the most part, him and Ingram are fantastic. I mean,
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: probably two of the best edge guys in the National
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: Football League. That defense also added Derwin James. They got
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: him back last week off of I don't know if
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: they had a file list or I R whatever. He
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: had a mentaursa foot injury back in camp and they
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: got him back in the lineup. And Derwin James is
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: a difference baker, and so you add him, and then
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: they also got Adrian Phillips back, who's a safety and
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: other safety. But I mean to go back to the
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: original guys we were talking about. Bosa Ingram really good
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: football players. I mean, Joey Bosa has thirties seven career
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: sacks and forty seven games. That's getting after it now,
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: thirty seven and forty seven. Let's compare that to in Gockway.
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: Dockway has thirty five and a half and fifty nine
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: thirty nine and a half and fifty nine. Bosta thirty
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: seven and forty seven. A little difference right there. Uh,
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: Boas has obviously got a better sack per game number.
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: Melvin Ingram is, Uh, he doesn't have the sack numbers.
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: He's got forty seven and a half career and he
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: is in his eighth year. So I mean, it's not
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: like he's averaging like double digits a year, and he's
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: not Von Miller or anything. But he is a really
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: good football player. I think what makes him a challenge
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: is that, first of all, he's a good edge rusher,
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: but then they will stand him up and then rush him,
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: kind of like what the Texans and now the Seattle
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: Seahawks are doing with Clowney. And then they'll put him
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: standing up over of guard. And so he's tough from
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: that aspect, and uh and uh he's great and open space,
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: he can drop, he can do everything. And then they
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: added in the all season Thomas Davis Jr. Who was
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: the longtime Carolina Panther, and the guy seems absolutely ageless.
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: Fifteen years in the National Football League, three reconstructive knee surgeries,
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: and all he's doing is leading the chargers and tackles.
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: I mean, are you kidding me? And he he reminds
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: me of the Sam Mills, the uh uh London Fletcher,
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: the uh the guys that played middle linebacker that played
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: for you know a long time. And he's and he's
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: a really good football player. He's and he's playing in
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: an era now where linebackers are expected to be able
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: to play a lot in space, which you know, some
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: of the old time linebackers, you know where they were,
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: you know, smash guards and and box linebackers and they
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: didn't have to out in space and cover guys. I mean,
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: today's linebacker you have the plane space and Thomas David Jr.
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: Can still or senior can still play in space, which
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: is impressive. One note a small detail here, but the Chargers.
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: The Chargers official defensive statistics are based on their coaches
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: film review. The NFL official statistics are a little different. Obviously,
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: the sacks are what they are for botha eight and
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: a half. The Chargers have him as fifteen and a
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: half tackles for lost and thirty four quarterback hits. The
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: league has him at twelve tackles for loss and twenty
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: one quarterback hits. So it's just a little difference in
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: the way the Chargers you're talking about Yeah, I'm just
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: talking about in general stats is going off the league numbers.
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: It's a little ower. That's why I was like, thirty
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: four hits doesn't seem right. It's officially NFL has missed
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: twenty one whatever. Either way, the the charger is the
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: only thing that they're probably missing a little bit. They
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: had a cornerback that got suspended a couple of couple
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: of weeks ago for or I think it was for
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: performance enhancing drugs. You got suspended for two games, and
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: that was Michael Davis. He started nine games until his suspension,
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: and so he is out this week against the Jaguar.
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: So he missed the Denver game, and the previous week
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: he was out because it was a bye, and so
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: this is the second game that he meets before he
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: goes back to the active roster. What's your confidence level
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: in the Jaguars tackles right now against this group, Cam Robinson.
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: I didn't play very well last week. I mean that, uh,
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: you know, give me, give me a positive performance a
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: week before and I'll feel good about it. But I
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: you know, with the Jaguars tackles didn't have a positive
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: performance last week. So I mean there's no reason to
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: think that that they can handle Boson Ingram. So I
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: think this is gonna be a tough matchup for for
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: both guys, both Cam and Juan. I mean, Juwan had
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: a rough outing last week. Quarterback gott to help him
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: out a little bit, though, um and I think having
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: minsh you out out there will will certainly help. But
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: I mean, you think about it. The two sacks and
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: calls fumbles that went over Juwan Taylor. One of them
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: was it was definitely on Nick and it was who
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: is the defensive end, the guy that formerly of the
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns anyway, the defensive and he comes in and
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: Nick sees him coming and he's holding on the ball
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: and then he sees him coming and he still doesn't
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: protect the football on the balls that's not on Juwan.
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: The other one, which was Shaq Barrett got the sack
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: calls fumble the first one, and uh, Nick Foles is
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: in shotgun and he takes a couple of steps back
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: in his in his back foot or his body is
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: at nine yards deep. I mean, look, it's hard for
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: a tackle to protect the quarterback. Who are or where
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: the aiming point for a pass rusher is nine yards deep.
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: That's that's hard. And the quarterbacks gotta help Juwan Taylor
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: out there step up. You know what they call climb
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: the ladder? Okay, Nick, climb the ladder? Oh, anytime climb
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: the ladder? Well, he didn't. Karl Nassa was the other guy, Jack.
• 43:08
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• 43:11
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• 43:13
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  Speaker 1: the Jagson the Chap four or five kick yeah, I wonder.
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  Speaker 1: I guess that four four o'clock. I don't know. I
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  Speaker 1: don't quite get that. Well, the Chargers West Coast teams
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  Speaker 1: a lot of times they to have them, you know,
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: have a I don't want to start at ten am
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: their time. A lot of sometimes they sometimes I'm with you,
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  Speaker 1: I got yes, too bad. Sorry about it, fellas, But
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: I think that's part of it. I mean it. Uh,
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  Speaker 1: when we have a game in London, it's early here.
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  Speaker 1: Uh okay, sure, So what's the problem. Uh, there was
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  Speaker 1: a game last week, the forty Niners played a one
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  Speaker 1: o'clock game in Baltimore, and it's problem. I don't know,
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  Speaker 1: but I think it just happened sometimes, Well, you wanted
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  Speaker 1: at one o'clock. Uh. Well, I'm concerned about my fantasy picks. JP.
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  Speaker 1: Well you should be, because you've had some issues. I
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  Speaker 1: don't want to say my fantasy guys, I'm not very
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  Speaker 1: good this year. JP. You happen to have a hole
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  Speaker 1: a golden horseshoe up your you know what I think
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  Speaker 1: I did? Okay, I had Lamar Jackson and Derrick Henry.
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  Speaker 1: That's pretty good. Week. I got a little bit criticized
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  Speaker 1: for for picking those guys. I don't know why. Well,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it wasn't Henry was going against the coals.
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  Speaker 1: It wasn't me. Probably, Yeah, he knows it. He don't
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  Speaker 1: know at all, he knows at all. Just ask him.
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: I'll tell you the a f C South standings after
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: week thirteen. Oh boy, it's not pretty Houston, Tennessee, Indie Jacksonville.
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: The Jags are out of the race of the C side.
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: What a great game that the Texans played against the
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: New England Patriots. Wow's first time I think that the
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: Texans have defeated the New England Patriots. And congratulations to
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: them certainly is Roebrian the former assistant, Yeah, they they are.
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: They made Tom Brady look mortal, which has happened a
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: couple of times now. Ravens did that to him as well.
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: It's it's interesting dynamic there when the defense is leading
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: the way. It's like the early days of the Patriots dynasty. Right.
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: It was a defensive led team until Brady kind of
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: got things together a few years in and then it
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: turned into an offensive team. Now it's kind of going
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: back the other way. Not the Brady is bad, I'm
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: not saying that, trust me. Tom If you're watching. I
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: did not say that he's not watching. I'm just saying,
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: just in case the word gets back, he's still playing.
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: He's still a very good quarterback, but they don't have
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: the parts that they've had on offense. I think the
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: one thing I've always appreciated about the Patriots is they
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: they never felt that where they were in the season
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: was where they were gonna end up. They continually improved
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: throughout the year, and I think that's always been the
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: one of the calling cards of a Bill Belichick coach
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: football team and a Patriot football team is that they
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: do get better throughout the course of the year, and
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: then they do seem to be playing always play their
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: best football once they get into the postseason, and look,
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: a's the It's the greatest franchise in NFL history. And
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: if you if you doubt them for a second, they
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: will make you look stupid because they will prove you wrong.
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: They're that good. Let's take a look at the AFC
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: South schedule this week. The game's involving divisional teams, and
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: we start off with the Broncos at the Texans four
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: and eight Denver eight and four Houston. It's a one
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: o'clock kickoff Sunday in the Texans Broncos Drew lock Back
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: in the lineup for his second start of the game.
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: How about it was easy? He last week they threw
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: the deep ball and got the past interference late to
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: get the field goal. But I thought that was a
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: bad call and it was a call on Casey Hayward Jr.
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: And they're actually gonna take a knee, And the head
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: coach of the Denver Broncos said no, no, no, no,
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: just throw it up and hopefully we can get something positive. Happened.
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: They did get the call and a rolled the field
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: goal union out there and they got a last second
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: victory and it just crushed the San Diego Chargers morale
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: and charging coming. He knew it's coming. How you do it?
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: Chargers Chargers, Chargers Chargers? Uh? I get it right. The
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: Colts at the Yes, that's gonna be a good football game.
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: Now Bucks at home and uh. Jamis Winston had his
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: streak of six consecutive three on a plus yard passing
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: games broken against the Jaguars. But they were super efficient
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: as an offense. They did a pretty good job protecting
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: the football. Jamis didn't throw an interception. That's gonna be
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: a good football game. The Chargers Jacks obviously four o'clock
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: Titans Raiders. That's not a gimme game for the Titans
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: of whatsoever. The Raiders are up and down, but when
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: they're up, they played pretty well there at home. And
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: they're at home and it that's their second to the
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: last home game, and there in our organizational history in Oakland.
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: The last game will be next week. That's right, I
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: guess the Jaguars, which that's gonna be scary, now scared.
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: I'm not scared. It sounds like I'm just telling you this.
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: I will wear black. I thought nothing intimidated. You're intimidated
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: by the might not have any I might not have
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: any logo to pail. I might just wear like all
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: be the Johnny Cash. You know. It's that way. I'm
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: kind of I'm kind of uh franchise neutral. Right, it's
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: gonna be a scene out is that place? Uh? That
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: place is gonna be crazy? Now, yes it is. It's
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: gonna be crazy. Let's take a look at the ANFC
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: playoff picture after last week's games coming into Week fourteen,
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: and of course, the division leaders, the Ravens are the
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: number one seed currently, the Patriots right there at number
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: two Houston Kansas. The wild card if it ended today,
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: would be Buffalo and Pittsburgh. The Titans are knocking on
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: the door, Raiders, Colts, and then the Browns at five
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: and seven. You go on out from how about Buffalo? Now?
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: You know it's a good football team, quarterbacks playing better.
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: He can throw and run, obviously, you can do all
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: that stuff. I mean, they they lost that game early
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: in the year to the Patriots, and they're good. When
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: do they play the Patriots again? That's a that's a
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: good question because that's a game that I would really
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: like to see. And uh, I want to say the
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: first game they play the weeks sixteen, where's it at?
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: It's at New England. Yeah, yeah, I thought the first
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: matchup was in Buffalo, So I mean that's I think
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: that's gonna be a good matchup. I mean, you're talking
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: about a Buffalo built team than playing pretty well Patriots team.
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: That hiss, you know, I mean, that's been greatly Look
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: at this schedule now for the Bills coming up home
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: against the Ravens this week at the Steelers, another wild
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: card team right now, they win that game, but there
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: you go. I mean Pittsburgh in the hunt. How about
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: the turnaround that Mike Tomlin has been able to do
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: in Pittsburgh with nothing? Do they get the quarterbacks hurt?
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: Like every what has happened? All the guys are gone?
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  Speaker 1: Like I mean, they get guys suspended from from the
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: whole deal with the Browns. You know he lost pouncy. Uh.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, you could make an argument that he's coach
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  Speaker 1: of the Year if they get in and you're talking
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: about the duck calling quarterback who has been was Devin Hodges? Hodges?
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: Hodges has been good? The story on that right, He's
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: a national duck Calling championship Yes he has. Uh. He
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: has competed in numerous Duck's Unlimited Calling Championship contests and
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: he's won. And who who was it? What's the guy
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: that we got benched right for him? The one that
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: was involved with the with the helmet swinging incident with
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: Myles Garrett? What was his name again? Is that terrible?
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: Did you camera? He was? He was bad? I means
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  Speaker 1: Rudolph think he's not a good quarter I remember he
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: got hitting the chops a few weeks before that and
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: knocked out cold on the field, and he's not I
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  Speaker 1: don't care about that. I just know this. He's not
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: a good quarterback. And uh, if if they kept him
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  Speaker 1: as their backup, Wow, you want to talk about forcing
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: a draft pick on your roster? What did they see
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: in him that made them go wow? Yeah, he's pretty good.
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: He could be our future and from what I've seen
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  Speaker 1: out of him, pretty poor play. There's still a lot
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: of business to attend to in the a f C South.
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: Of course, Houston and Tennessee played twice down the stretch
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  Speaker 1: here in the next four weeks of business, and they're
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  Speaker 1: one week apart, right this week fifteen and seven. Yeah. Uh,
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  Speaker 1: in Houston, I'm sorry, in uh, Tennessee the first time
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: and at Houston the second time. What a great way,
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: what a great way to to finish the division ray
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  Speaker 1: by having the top two meet twice in the last
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: three weeks of the season. Right, and then the Colts,
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: let's see what they have coming down the stretch here.
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: They have at Bucks this week at the Saints home
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: against the Panthers at the jack So three out of
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  Speaker 1: four on the road for them, including a trip here
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  Speaker 1: to Jacksonville in weeks seventeen. So you know if they
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: if they come through and get some wins, the other
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: two you never know, never know. It's it's a tight division.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, but I think it's a think Texans
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: obviously got the upper hand, but it could be anybody's
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: division when it comes down to it. Thursday night football tonight,
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys at six and six, the Chicago Bears
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: at six and sid Bears. You got the Bears at
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: home win. No, I got Cowboys winning. And there's a
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: lot going on in Dallas. These know there's a lot
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: going on in Dallas. And I know Troy Aikman had
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: some pretty strong words about the the structure or the
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: way that that organization operates. And I think Troy was
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: pretty much on pointness comments about that organization, and he
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: would know Jerry Jones is I don't want to say
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: it undermines the head coach, but yeah, it hunderminds the
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: head coach. Is essentially what Troy said and a lot
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: of things that he does. And and I totally get
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: where Troy was coming from. And uh, the daily updates
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: on from Jerry Jones sometimes can be a little tiring,
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: I think for for the organization as all far as
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: far as football team and the coaching staff. Yeah, Jerry
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: just needs to, you know, back off a little bit.
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: He is the owner of the football team. I know
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: he's the owner. Hey, Look, you can criticize some of
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: the picks he's had. There's no doubt general manager too, right,
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: that's right. But but he is the owner of the
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: firing Jerry. No, he's not not at all. Alright, final
• 57:48
  Speaker 1: thoughts here, the by the way Dug Moron show coming
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: up in a couple of minutes on the Jaguars Radio Network.
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: Four games to go again, let's rehash it here. The
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: Jags at home this week, on the road the next
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: two weeks after that, and then back home right before
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: New Year's to face the Indianapolis Colts. Jags of four
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: and eight and the last four haven't really been that close.
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: And that's the frustrating thing right now, is that you're
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: really just starting to play out the string here. Well,
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: I think, uh, I think there's gonna there's I mean,
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: there's always a lot to play for as as an
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: as an individual, as an athlete. I mean there's future contracts,
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: you have incentive money, perk, pride, you know, the the
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: respect for your teammates. I mean, all those things come
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: into play, and so there's a lot of reasons for
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: this football team to play well. And this Charger's football
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: team is kind of looking the same boat they are,
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: you know, so, but they have been more competitive. If
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: you look at the scores, They've been in a lot
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: of football games. I want to say, how many what
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: seven or eight there's out of their eight losses within
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: a score, which is not the case with the Jaguars.
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: From that's that that I gave earlier. So you know,
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: it's good, good and this is a this is a
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: good matchup now for for the Chargers. We gotta we
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: got a rookie quarterback, two really good edge players, two
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: tackles that didn't play well last week. Uh. I know
• 59:14
  Speaker 1: that I'll be writing my little piece for John O'shure's
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: the Expert's column. We'll be writing at the Johnny Oh tonight.
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: And I don't know where I'm gonna fall on the
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: map as far as any kind of predictions, but you
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: could probably figure it out. I mean, when you lose
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: four games in a row by five points, a game
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: probably gonna go with the Chargers. It's not a good matchup.
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: We'll see if the Jackson get it on track. We're
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: back in a moment on the Jaguars Radio Network. That
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: Doug More own show is next. Thank you for listening
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: and watching the Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network.