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- 0:05Oh OK, welcome to Into the Channel podcast right now about
- 0:09women's football. I'm your host Dino Desuspitas
- 0:11and as always I am joined by my Co host Mr. Grant Engel.
- 0:16What is up? I'm feeling fantastic buddy and
- 0:19hold on a minute, I got to check my watch here and the embargo
- 0:22has been lifted. We are.
- 0:24We've seen into the future. But as many of you may have
- 0:28already heard gigantic news in the women's football world
- 0:32today. Yeah, maybe you heard it.
- 0:34Maybe you didn't hear it. And I don't know what you talk
- 0:35about for your future. This is happening right now.
- 0:37We're just in the present, and that's all there is.
- 0:40Really. Yeah.
- 0:42So huge news. As you alluded to, your neck of
- 0:44the woods, your beat, technically, Jess Fishlock, the
- 0:48legend. You know, some news drops today.
- 0:51Mr. Grant Angle, where do you want to get started?
- 0:53Let's get started with a beverage as customary.
- 0:58Cheers to the legend. Exactly right.
- 1:02Cheers to you, cheers to football, cheers to one of the
- 1:04greatest football players we've ever had the pleasure of
- 1:07watching. And that news that we are
- 1:10talking about is the great Welsh legend Jess Fishlock has
- 1:16announced that she will retire from football at the end of the
- 1:202026 NWSL season. Well deserved.
- 1:24I mean, what a run. Some really cool symmetry here.
- 1:2813 years to the day since the first NDSL goal, April 21st to
- 1:342013. Before we get into it, I kind of
- 1:37reround the clock a little bit just to see what was going on
- 1:39in. In April 2013, we had just
- 1:42celebrated a big Masters victory for Adam Scott, and then we also
- 1:47celebrated the 2013 Louisville Cardinals winning the men's
- 1:51basketball tournament. Actually.
- 1:54I'm sorry, no, that title was vacated following the
- 2:01investigation into sex for pay scandals arranged by a former
- 2:04staffer. So yes, apparently there was no
- 2:062013 in NCAA Championship. Apologies for that.
- 2:12But yeah, Adam Scott, 2013 Masters shout out to you.
- 2:15Adam sure. And I think that same 2013 NCAA
- 2:21tournament that, you know, the NCAA wants to tell us didn't
- 2:23happen. Isn't that the one where the kid
- 2:25had the gruesome leg injury during the tournament?
- 2:29But he's probably super grateful that that tournament never
- 2:32happened. So now he never had to suffer
- 2:34that broken leg. Nope, Nope.
- 2:36He's sitting pretty right now. For those wondering, the
- 2:40Michigan Wolverines were not awarded the victory.
- 2:43So yeah, we we go championless. Any who back to the matter at
- 2:47hand, Jess Fishlock, the legend I was as I was mentioning
- 2:5120/13/2013 was what just makes you know hurt debut in the NWSL
- 2:57and what a run from that point until where to where we sit
- 3:01today. Yeah, she is the longest
- 3:04remaining club original in the NWSL.
- 3:07She's the last remaining longest tenured player in NWS.
- 3:12His NWSL history. Pardon me, Seattle Rain Football
- 3:16Club or OL Rain or the many the couple different names that
- 3:20they've had. They've won the Shield three
- 3:22times. You know, notably an individual
- 3:25accomplishment. She is the 2021 NWSLMVP.
- 3:30She finished ahead of 1. Mallory Pugh, obviously now
- 3:34known as Mal Swanson, who finished 2nd and Midge Purse who
- 3:38finished third that year in MVP voting.
- 3:40Pretty good year for the Welsh legend.
- 3:43Yeah, and I think I'm glad you bring up the Welsh part of it
- 3:47because obviously, you know, you're covering, you know, fish
- 3:50lock in the rain, you know, for for the last few, you know, few
- 3:53years here that we've been doing the show.
- 3:54But the EUR, you know, last summer was an absolute roller
- 3:58coaster ride for us. And we we covered, I think we
- 4:01did did we do 21 straight days of shows or 18?
- 4:05We did a crazy number of shows, but just fish lock for Wales,
- 4:10one of the flash bulb memories for me of that tournament.
- 4:13You know, that gets the equalizer versus France.
- 4:16The place goes absolutely crazy. And like fishlock is just one of
- 4:20those players that, you know, a game state monster, you know,
- 4:25like when you need something, it's like if she's not in the
- 4:28game, the camera cuts through. She's just like chewing into the
- 4:32like, you know, like the, the, the railing and just cannot wait
- 4:35to get in there and then just plays way up, You know, when
- 4:39when her team needs it and, and kind of has done so since I've
- 4:42been watching the sport. But I know you cover her.
- 4:45What, what's been your experience, you know, going from
- 4:49in the in the stands to kind of like covering this team and
- 4:51understanding a little bit deeper and you know, like what,
- 4:54what her impact has been? Well, I'm glad that I spent the
- 4:58first couple years living here going to games, you know,
- 5:01formerly at at at Cheney Stadium in Tacoma, which is a minor
- 5:04League Baseball stadium where I've watched players like Marta
- 5:10and Alex Morgan, Megan Rapino, Jess Fishlock, obviously, and
- 5:14other and other great players play football in an oddly shaped
- 5:18pitch, like in in a weird minor League Baseball stadium, like I
- 5:21said. And then watching them, you
- 5:23know, move over to Lumen Field and play in this gigantic NFL
- 5:27stadium. But I'm glad that I got to to
- 5:29watch as a fan first before we started covering the sport
- 5:33because you can really feel the love and respect that the fan
- 5:38base has for her. When I was on Leon Sanderson
- 5:41show, the women's football show, which you should immediately
- 5:43subscribe to on any platform that it's available, she asked
- 5:46me about Jess Fishlock. And, and I maintain that she is
- 5:51without question one of the most popular athletes in the city of
- 5:55Seattle, a pretty sports crazy town.
- 5:58And she is right up there near the top of the list.
- 6:01You see her shirts all over the place.
- 6:03The the way people cheer when she, when she, you know, was
- 6:06announced in the starting lineup or if she comes on as a sub,
- 6:08like you said, people go absolutely bananas for her.
- 6:11She's she's just been a great ambassador for the sport and I
- 6:17feel like that love and adoration goes worldwide because
- 6:20you saw the way, you know, players react to her when she's
- 6:23wearing the Welsh shirt as well. Yeah, tremendous respect for for
- 6:28Fishlock and what she's done for sure.
- 6:29And what she's contentious do as like a player like in real time,
- 6:32which is incredible. Do you have a, do you have a
- 6:34player in mind in terms of like a comp for a player that's like
- 6:39done what she's done, maybe cross sport, you know, like when
- 6:43you think about the breadth of the career and like all the
- 6:45trophies and championships. I think for our pals who watch
- 6:49the show on YouTube, they may notice occasionally over your
- 6:52left shoulder there's a photo and I'm not sure if it's like
- 6:55from a magazine cover or a book or something like that, but it
- 6:58is of Miami Bond. There we go, Miami Heat era
- 7:02LeBron James. Now, I am not going to compare
- 7:05just Fishlock to LeBron James, although you know, people in
- 7:08Wales might think that's an that's an apps comparison and
- 7:12it's probably is I. Think people in Wales are want
- 7:15to compare LeBron to Jess Fishler?
- 7:17That's true. Might, yeah, it might be too,
- 7:19too low, but I'm going to go with another Miami Heat player
- 7:23in that era of when that that photograph was taken.
- 7:26I'm going to go with Dwyane Wade and my, and my thought, my
- 7:29thought process here is like, you know, obviously the heat win
- 7:33the title in 2006 and Dwyane Wade is like the, and correct me
- 7:37if I'm wrong here. I mean, maybe Tim Hardaway, I
- 7:39guess, but like Dwyane Wade is like the very first obvious with
- 7:44a bullet Hall of Fame player that you associate with the
- 7:48Miami Heat. And Jess Fishlock has the
- 7:51distinction of like we talked about her time with Seattle Rain
- 7:55Football Club or OL Rain or the different iterations of the
- 7:57club's name. She's an original, she is
- 8:00forever tied with this club and I feel like there's some
- 8:03parallels there to our old pal D Wade.
- 8:07I love that. Yeah, hopefully we got a sharper
- 8:10just Fish Lock statue than the than the D Wade statue that we
- 8:12got. We'll keep an eye out for that.
- 8:14It's low bar. Speaking of the leadership,
- 8:17because obviously, you know, Wade wins the championship and,
- 8:19you know, they get to two more when LeBron gets there.
- 8:22And we talked about Fish Lock's championship DNA and you know,
- 8:25her, her ability to play big when the moment calls for it.
- 8:29The EUR talked about that there's going to be a leadership
- 8:32vacuum in Seattle. You know, once she moves on, you
- 8:36know, you're, you're our resident Seattle beat reporter.
- 8:38You, you're on the ground. You know, you're in the
- 8:39building. You're kind of shaking trees,
- 8:41seeing what falls out, holding people upside down and seeing
- 8:44what falls out of their pockets. That's me.
- 8:47If you, if you put one or two take chips down on a player over
- 8:53the next four or five seasons, stepping into that leadership
- 8:55vacuum, do you have anybody you have your eye on anybody that
- 8:57that could could be that? Now Jess Fishlock, obviously
- 9:02people know she has a nose for goal.
- 9:04Like you mentioned, she scores big goals and big moments.
- 9:08I think her her defensive prowess, especially in her MVP
- 9:11season, I think she had 20 plus interceptions that year.
- 9:13And like she can get it done on on both ends of the pitch.
- 9:18I'm going to go with despite the fact that she plays more
- 9:20defensive midfielder, I'm going to go with 24 year old Sam Meza
- 9:26operates in the center of the park and last year took a giant
- 9:30step forward in her career in terms of just a level of
- 9:34consistency and quality. Laura Harvey praised her after
- 9:38after pretty much every match. And you know, even our pal Tom
- 9:42Bomb from the great Shades of Blue podcast who does an amazing
- 9:47job covering Kansas City, current mentioned that message
- 9:51was jumping off the screen to him as as a real midfielder who
- 9:56can just cause chaos for the other team.
- 9:59Yeah, she plays so hungry, too. I think that's a great, great
- 10:03parallel. Was one of the names that I
- 10:05thought of for sure this 2026 NWSL season for the Seattle
- 10:10Rain. Obviously off to a good start.
- 10:12Five matches played, I believe 10 points from 5 top three in
- 10:15the table. You know, not quite a cupcake,
- 10:18but you know, Sunday, take it on.
- 10:20The Utah Royals might be winnable for a home match for
- 10:23Seattle, especially coming off the heels of of a big time
- 10:26announcement. A big, big time emotional
- 10:27announcement is, you know, temperature check on Seattle
- 10:32season. Well, in 2023 there was a
- 10:36legendary Seattle Reign player who announced her retirement mid
- 10:40season and that her effect, her retirement would take effect
- 10:44after the season. That would be 1 Megan Rapino.
- 10:47I think people might be familiar with her work.
- 10:50I think she announced that she was going to retire at the end
- 10:52of the season in like July of 2023.
- 10:54I want to say a. Little Peanut book record
- 10:57Speaking of. There you go and Seattle Rain
- 11:01Football Club went on to make the NWSL Championship.
- 11:06Now they lost in heartbreaking fashion, and Rapino tore
- 11:11Achilles within like, the 1st 10 minutes of the match.
- 11:13So we don't want that to happen. But like, how many times in
- 11:16sports have you seen, you know, a team rally around a legendary
- 11:21player and kind of try to go on one last run?
- 11:25Yeah, it happens for Marta like every every year, but then she
- 11:29just keeps going back for one more last run.
- 11:31But I I could certainly see see some rallying around Fishlock.
- 11:36She's she's still so has so much more, so much game and so much
- 11:39energy that I think it's much more than a figurehead.
- 11:43You know, there's sometimes what we see in other sports too, is
- 11:45like the retirement tour is a little sad.
- 11:47I don't think we're gonna get any of that.
- 11:49She's already got a goal this season and looks just as spry as
- 11:53you know, as as she's been. I think so.
- 11:56I don't know. But a little bit of a mixed
- 11:58emotions. I think on a day that, you know,
- 12:00you got to kind of contemplate some entire career, but still so
- 12:05much football to be played and also a day of celebration.
- 12:09No doubt, you know, like I, like I mentioned before, I won't
- 12:11belabor it too much. She's just absolutely beloved up
- 12:14here. I I think the that feeling
- 12:16carries over across the pond. You see the way people reacted
- 12:21to her goal in the EUR that you mentioned, the equalizer versus
- 12:24France. If you want to talk about a
- 12:26footballing machine, I want to rattle off some stuff here.
- 12:30I mean, you know, earlier in her career in the mid twenty 10s,
- 12:34you know, she was playing seasons for Seattle rain.
- 12:36Then she would go on loan to the Melbourne Victory in the West
- 12:40League. Short flight.
- 12:42Yeah, short flight, just real quick over to over to Australia
- 12:47and then she'd come back, play for the rain, then go.
- 12:49She went on loan to FFC Frankfurt, which is now
- 12:52Eintracht Frankfurt. Help them win the Champions
- 12:55League. In 2015 she had 6 Champions
- 12:58League appearances. Now she was back to the NWSL by
- 13:01the time the final was played. When she qualified.
- 13:03She's got that Champions League winner's medal and then, you
- 13:06know, back to the rain and then in the offseason she's playing
- 13:09for Melbourne City, helping them win the W League and then going
- 13:14back in, in the pandemic season in 2020, she went on loan and
- 13:18played for Redding. So she was just in her in her
- 13:20absolute physical apex. She was a footballing machine.
- 13:24She's the reigns all time leader in assists with 30.
- 13:27The all time leader in goal contributions was 79.
- 13:30She has 219 appearances in the NWSL.
- 13:33That's second all time. 205 starts.
- 13:36That's third all time in the league. 17,785 minutes played.
- 13:40That's third all time in the league.
- 13:42Just a player who was available to play and like you mentioned
- 13:46it before, plays with a heart, a style and an attitude and that
- 13:51is why she is the legendary player she is.
- 13:53Let's go. Extremely well said.
- 13:56Yeah, a player that will miss watching for sure.
- 13:58But thankfully, the the announcement comes early in the
- 14:01season and we still get to, you know, log some minutes enjoying
- 14:04the legend. Knock it around a little bit.
- 14:07Mr. Grant Angle, is there anything else you want to hit
- 14:09before we get out of here? Yeah, I think I'll, I'll say
- 14:11this last part too, is so, you know, in in my time doing
- 14:17journalism before like the the other day jobs kind of took over
- 14:20and now getting back into journalism doing this just
- 14:24Fishlock is without question one of the more thoughtful athletes
- 14:27that I've ever talked to. I mean, she seems to give real
- 14:31genuine consideration to every reporter's questions, takes them
- 14:36in the spirit in which they're asked and then tries to give
- 14:40real context and lend her expertise to the people she
- 14:44talks to. She shows I've, I've seen her
- 14:47treat everybody with respect. She she jokes around, she's very
- 14:51funny, very clever. Just it seems like a genuinely
- 14:55nice person. I think that really exudes in
- 14:59the way she does it interviews and in the in her playing style
- 15:02and the way you see her treat, treat her teammates and the way
- 15:05her treat mates, the way her teammates treat her.
- 15:08And so, you know, in my first season covering Seattle rain,
- 15:12there are a lot of losses mixed in there and make the playoffs.
- 15:15They're near the bottom of the table.
- 15:17And even in those very frustrating moments for, again,
- 15:20a player we've talked about who's got a lot of trophies, a
- 15:22lot of pelts on the wall, she still was an absolute
- 15:26professional, even though you could tell that those losses
- 15:29were really burning her up inside.
- 15:30But she still maintained a level of professionalism and I just
- 15:33really admire that. Yeah, no, that's super cool.
- 15:36And a 0% surprise to, I mean, professionalism just oozes out
- 15:40of that player for sure. Quick football calendar.
- 15:44We've got some well, three of our 4 champion semi finalists
- 15:48are in action on Wednesday, So we'll be back.
- 15:50Let's talk about that action and there's some some light check
- 15:54insurance with our semi finalists cuz we know that this
- 15:57weekend, this upcoming weekend, the Champions League is back
- 16:01this weekend in the following weekend, leg one leg 2.
- 16:04I mean we're we're very close to knowing who our champs league
- 16:07finalists are going to be. I cannot believe we're already
- 16:09here. And the Bussell also returns
- 16:10this weekend. Yeah, from into Seattle rain,
- 16:13taking on Utah Royals, the Washington Spirit versus Casey
- 16:15Curran. That's a big match of racing.
- 16:17Louisville, Orlando, Angel City, Portland, Gotham versus Bay FC.
- 16:21Go check out Wayne de Bay if you haven't subscribed to that
- 16:24already. Follow your boys on all the
- 16:25socials. All right, man, I think we
- 16:26definitely, definitely did it. Nothing else we want to hit for
- 16:29you out here, is there? Nope.
- 16:30I think we covered it. Now, obviously, could we cover
- 16:33the entirety of Jess Fishlock's amazing career?
- 16:35No. But we did our best.
- 16:37There's the breaking news. We operated under embargo like a
- 16:39couple of real journalists where we're reporting this from the
- 16:43past. But luckily, you know, real
- 16:45journalists get the get the good scoops.
- 16:47And yeah, let us know, though, what are what are your favorite
- 16:51Jess Fishlock memories? I'd be interested to hear them
- 16:53in the comments. Yep, hash masks happening right
- 16:56now. That's all there is the present
- 16:58moment. The current moment.
- 16:59Anyway, this has been over there, another episode into the
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- 17:34Much, much more in the description of this episode and
- 17:37a big thing in my coast as well. Mr. Grand Angle for being one of
- 17:42the ITC originals, you know, one of the four time MVP 2023, MVP
- 17:472024 MVP 2025, MVP 2026 MVPTBDI. Appreciate you bro.
- 17:52Likewise, Buddy Co MV PS I think I think we can make that happen.
- 17:56I mean, obviously the two originals here, Fishlock and
- 18:00Rapino, you know, I mean, I feel like that's a that's a pretty
- 18:03good duo. PDM.
- 18:06There it is. But yeah, like, like I said,
- 18:09thank you everybody for for watching.
- 18:11Let us know what are your favorite Jess fish lock
- 18:13memories? What did we miss?
- 18:14What's the important context? What did what were you watching
- 18:17on the blurry Verizon GO-90 app in 2016 and 17?
- 18:23You know, watching NWSL matches on your iPhone 6 or whatever
- 18:27iPhone was Outback then, you know, let us know.
- 18:29Put us on game. Tell us what we missed prior to
- 18:33the 2019 World Cup. We always appreciate the
- 18:35knowledge you guys are dropping and thank you for watching and
- 18:38we will see you all next time.