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- 0:28Speaker 1: on today's show, we're talking about the Ohio State defense
- 0:30Speaker 1: and their performance against Washington. It was pretty darn good.
- 0:34Speaker 1: But Ross will tell us what. Ross will give us
- 0:36Speaker 1: some of the technical reasons why it was pretty darn good. Ross.
- 0:39Speaker 1: One of those reasons was a gentleman named Kayden Curry
- 0:42Speaker 1: who had what would what has at least been to
- 0:44Speaker 1: date a career day for him. I think he was
- 0:46Speaker 1: eleven tackles and five tackles for loss and three sacks,
- 0:49Speaker 1: which is you know pretty good. One of the plays
- 0:52Speaker 1: that he made that was maybe a little bit underappreciated
- 0:55Speaker 1: was it came on first in goal when Washington was
- 0:58Speaker 1: really threatening at one point in the first half and
- 1:00Speaker 1: he just completely blew up a first and goalplay.
- 1:04Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd say Ken Curry had a great game and
- 1:06Speaker 2: has had a great season. This one though, is largely
- 1:10Speaker 2: him cleaning things up as a result of the scheme.
- 1:13Speaker 2: And you know, again Ohio State has been great inside
- 1:16Speaker 2: the ten in the red zone. You know, we've talked
- 1:19Speaker 2: about some of the different fronts that Matt Patricia has brought,
- 1:21Speaker 2: and there's really been two additions to the to you know,
- 1:25Speaker 2: o High State's long standing four down base over front.
- 1:27Speaker 2: One's the penny on front we talked about, and this
- 1:30Speaker 2: is the other one. This double lag where you have
- 1:33Speaker 2: i've them both circled both three techniques or you know,
- 1:38Speaker 2: both defensive tackles are in three techniques, so you have
- 1:41Speaker 2: you know, that just means they're both between the guard
- 1:43Speaker 2: and the tackle. And what Ohio State did a bunch
- 1:46Speaker 2: of against Washington is they use this blitz where Arvo
- 1:51Speaker 2: Reese at the snap is immediately attacking the backside a
- 1:55Speaker 2: gap and So what you're doing is you're essentially creating
- 1:57Speaker 2: an odd front by other means, you're using rvel Reese
- 2:02Speaker 2: is essentially to clog that the middle between the two
- 2:04Speaker 2: defensive tackles, allowing Sunny Style to run free. And so
- 2:08Speaker 2: again just like on zone plays, there's there you can't
- 2:11Speaker 2: get double teams and you're just so you know, through
- 2:15Speaker 2: the scheme, they forced that that cutback right to Kayden Curry.
- 2:18Speaker 2: So we saw this technique or this concept a lot
- 2:22Speaker 2: from Ohio State against Washington, and we'll show when where
- 2:26Speaker 2: it didn't quite work so well. But like this is
- 2:28Speaker 2: you know, again you're using different you know, giving the
- 2:32Speaker 2: offense different looks. So it's pretty simple from the defensi's
- 2:37Speaker 2: point of view, but you're just changing up from the
- 2:39Speaker 2: offensives point of view, like what they're seeing pre snap
- 2:42Speaker 2: and post snap to create the same effect of you know,
- 2:45Speaker 2: preventing double teams in a zone run because you're covering
- 2:48Speaker 2: up the guards in the centers.
- 2:51Speaker 1: And this next one, you want to know, how you
- 2:52Speaker 1: have a good day on defense, you have a play
- 2:54Speaker 1: where we're talking about you know the next one, which
- 2:56Speaker 1: is probably didn't work quite as well as what we
- 2:58Speaker 1: just saw but Davis Enigmuinosen makes an incredible open field
- 3:02Speaker 1: tackle here. There was sort of a moment where you thought,
- 3:05Speaker 1: uh oh, and then boom immediately at a Mohammed is
- 3:08Speaker 1: on the ground because of a great open field tackle
- 3:11Speaker 1: on the edge by Davis Eningguinosa.
- 3:13Speaker 2: Yeah, and so this is one where this is the
- 3:15Speaker 2: same concept. Right, so you'll see r VL Reese attack
- 3:18Speaker 2: the backside a gap you're creating with from the double
- 3:21Speaker 2: lag front, creating that same effect. One difference though, is
- 3:25Speaker 2: that Washington a couple of times use wham blocks uh
- 3:30Speaker 2: to some advantage both against r I say's penny front
- 3:33Speaker 2: and here, and you know, like so by that like
- 3:37Speaker 2: this is a crunch. It's become a kind of a
- 3:40Speaker 2: play a jour in the last year or so. Again,
- 3:44Speaker 2: I should say it's not like a new concept. But
- 3:46Speaker 2: the front side guard is blocking down on that backside
- 3:50Speaker 2: three technique and then the tight end is trapping that
- 3:53Speaker 2: the front side three technique and creating a whole And
- 3:56Speaker 2: so they're basically running away from Reese's blitz to clog
- 3:59Speaker 2: up the middle right. And yeah, but then you know,
- 4:03Speaker 2: as you said, great play by Igman Nosen. I mean
- 4:06Speaker 2: I think he again has been probably relatively under herald
- 4:11Speaker 2: honestly by how good he's been, but like not just
- 4:15Speaker 2: in past defense, like he's a great boundary corner and
- 4:18Speaker 2: against the run game, and so you know, little things
- 4:21Speaker 2: make you a really good defense, like Igan nosen Kleeb downs,
- 4:24Speaker 2: like getting guys on the ground, you know, limiting a
- 4:27Speaker 2: play like this to an eight yard game, or you know,
- 4:30Speaker 2: limiting an earlier the Jonah Coleman run to not letting
- 4:34Speaker 2: it be a touchdown run in that game on the
- 4:37Speaker 2: big run, or like you know, downs, tackling it tight
- 4:40Speaker 2: end to the flat short of the line of scrimmage,
- 4:42Speaker 2: Like when your defensive backs are making plays like that,
- 4:46Speaker 2: it really adds up over time.
- 4:48Speaker 1: Yeah, that for sure. The tackling from I mean downside
- 4:51Speaker 1: two tackles when they were both major, major game changing tackles.
- 4:55Speaker 1: One stopped them on I think third or fourth down
- 4:57Speaker 1: and the other one was right near the goal line,
- 4:59Speaker 1: got Jonah Coleman to the ground. So you're gonna make
- 5:02Speaker 1: two tackles and you're gonna maybe change the game twice.
- 5:05Speaker 1: That's not a bad not a bad return uninvestment there.
- 5:08Speaker 2: Yeah, it's easy to take those kind of things for
- 5:11Speaker 2: granted when you see it happen, until you watch other
- 5:13Speaker 2: teams and that doesn't happen. You have safeties take bad angles,
- 5:16Speaker 2: like look at Nebraska and Michigan, Like safety takes a
- 5:18Speaker 2: bad angle and it's a seventy five yard touchdown, right
- 5:21Speaker 2: or like miss a tackle. So that stuff, as I said,
- 5:23Speaker 2: it kind of like when you it's hard to know
- 5:27Speaker 2: that you know, know the negative of it, but you know,
- 5:31Speaker 2: so it can be easy to take it for granted
- 5:32Speaker 2: until until it's not there.
- 5:34Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure, so appreciate it. While you got Ohio
- 5:38Speaker 1: State fans, it wasn't perfect on defense. They did allow
- 5:41Speaker 1: you know, some downfield passing that you mentioned the one
- 5:43Speaker 1: long run by Jonah Coleman, and they hit i think
- 5:45Speaker 1: three plays of twenty yards or so in the passing game.
- 5:49Speaker 1: We're going to look at one of them next. So
- 5:51Speaker 1: you know, in the game where you give up six points,
- 5:53Speaker 1: it's hard to say what went wrong, but okay, what
- 5:56Speaker 1: went wrong here?
- 5:57Speaker 2: Yeah, they got a few of these where you know,
- 6:00Speaker 2: they principally are a Cover three team, right like, so
- 6:03Speaker 2: they run Cover three, they mix in Cover two as
- 6:06Speaker 2: we've talked about, and then play man close to the
- 6:09Speaker 2: goal line. But you know, mostly they were spot dropping
- 6:13Speaker 2: in zone, which we've talked about before. So you're like
- 6:15Speaker 2: trying to get to your spot. You're not matching routes,
- 6:18Speaker 2: You're not like playing man within your zone. And so
- 6:21Speaker 2: they weren't rerouting some of these seam routes. And here's
- 6:25Speaker 2: a good example of that, right, Like, so Lorenzo Styles
- 6:27Speaker 2: is responsible to play the hook curl underneath, like you
- 6:30Speaker 2: can see him getting to a spot. And you know,
- 6:34Speaker 2: you would like, I think, to see at least get
- 6:37Speaker 2: hands on that seam route receiver to slow them down,
- 6:40Speaker 2: to allow like the deep zone defenders to get into position,
- 6:43Speaker 2: and that just allowed routes. I do think some of
- 6:45Speaker 2: it again this game, Like they are obviously as well
- 6:49Speaker 2: show very concerned with Desmond Williams as a runner and
- 6:52Speaker 2: a scrambler, and so you know, one benefit of spot
- 6:56Speaker 2: dropping is again you're keeping all eyes in the backfield.
- 6:59Speaker 2: And so I think they were probably willing to trade
- 7:01Speaker 2: off some of this risk and force Washington to consistently
- 7:05Speaker 2: move the football throwing it uh in exchange for like
- 7:08Speaker 2: for having eyes in the backfield and heming in Williams.
- 7:12Speaker 2: And so you know, they got a high stated on
- 7:14Speaker 2: this one they got a high state on they sort
- 7:16Speaker 2: of faked a bubble screen and ran a steam route,
- 7:19Speaker 2: were high staves and cover two and again like didn't
- 7:22Speaker 2: reroute the receiver and then got one in play action
- 7:25Speaker 2: where you know r l Res came up and didn't
- 7:28Speaker 2: robot back quickly enough like to get back in his
- 7:30Speaker 2: own coverage. But as you said, I think they probably
- 7:34Speaker 2: would trade off these couple of explosives in exchange for
- 7:38Speaker 2: for making Washington play left handed if you will, and
- 7:41Speaker 2: like not letting you know, Demond Williams get going as
- 7:44Speaker 2: a as a runner.
- 7:46Speaker 1: Yeah, that felt like that was a really really core
- 7:49Speaker 1: piece of the game plan was don't let Demond Williams
- 7:52Speaker 1: stay out or get out, you know, get out of
- 7:54Speaker 1: the pocket and run. And you saw that with the
- 7:57Speaker 1: pass rush where it didn't get there fast necessarily, but
- 8:01Speaker 1: it got there because the coverage downfield felt like it
- 8:04Speaker 1: was so good that he didn't really have anywhere to
- 8:06Speaker 1: go on a lot of plays. This next one is
- 8:08Speaker 1: one where I watched this live and thought, oh nice
- 8:12Speaker 1: played by Kenyanta Jackson, then went back and watched the
- 8:14Speaker 1: game afterwards. It was like that was an incredibly disciplined
- 8:17Speaker 1: play where this is going to be a bootleg and
- 8:20Speaker 1: he doesn't lose contain, just very disciplined, just contains Williams
- 8:25Speaker 1: kind of you know, fences him in and then goes
- 8:27Speaker 1: up and makes a tackle on a guy who is
- 8:29Speaker 1: not that easy to tackle in the open field.
- 8:33Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, there's just been great rush discipline throughout
- 8:35Speaker 2: the season. I mean, they've played every quarterback they've played
- 8:39Speaker 2: is a varying degree, is a mobile running threat, and
- 8:42Speaker 2: they've just consistently done a good job with that. But
- 8:45Speaker 2: this is just really good team defense as a whole.
- 8:48Speaker 2: So I just talked about, you know, o High State's
- 8:50Speaker 2: standard cover schemes. This is a new one to the mix.
- 8:55Speaker 2: I mean, Matt Patricia has run in the past quarter
- 8:59Speaker 2: quarter half. We've talked before. So to the boundary or
- 9:02Speaker 2: the short side the field, Ohio States playing Cover two
- 9:04Speaker 2: and to the field they're playing quarters or Cover four.
- 9:08Speaker 2: And so you can see that in action in terms
- 9:10Speaker 2: of how you know Washington's running a deep crosser. Here,
- 9:13Speaker 2: you can see how you know Klebe Downs is pointing
- 9:16Speaker 2: to Jermaine Matthews and they're trading off receivers. When you
- 9:18Speaker 2: kind of get that over and flag route combination, and
- 9:23Speaker 2: so there's nowhere to go with the football to start with,
- 9:26Speaker 2: and you know, quarter quarter a half, it's kind of
- 9:28Speaker 2: similar to Cover three. I mean, you're getting that boundary
- 9:30Speaker 2: for support, you're getting three deep defenders and so you know,
- 9:35Speaker 2: another coverage tool. And then obviously how you know Jackson
- 9:38Speaker 2: stays home. There's nowhere to go with the football, and
- 9:41Speaker 2: it makes a great open field tackle, as you said,
- 9:44Speaker 2: so you know, well show it again here.
- 9:46Speaker 1: But like.
- 9:49Speaker 2: Matt Patricia, he's making things look complicated for the offense
- 9:53Speaker 2: through different alignments pre snap and disguise. But like from
- 9:59Speaker 2: the d defences perspective, as long as the different guys,
- 10:04Speaker 2: like in Cover three, as long as you can execute,
- 10:06Speaker 2: for instance, the different Cover three responsibilities, it's pretty simple, right,
- 10:11Speaker 2: Like they're not running a ton of coverages each game.
- 10:13Speaker 2: They add a couple things and they're but they're doing
- 10:16Speaker 2: it in a way that it, you know, as i'd say,
- 10:20Speaker 2: increases the confusion for the offense and lessens it for
- 10:23Speaker 2: the defense.
- 10:25Speaker 1: Well, and this next play is one where you're going
- 10:26Speaker 1: to see this is not in coverage. This is kind
- 10:28Speaker 1: of more of an upfront thing, or at least at
- 10:31Speaker 1: least part of it is the en upfront thing. This
- 10:33Speaker 1: is one where you're going to see Rvel Reese show
- 10:36Speaker 1: blitz right at the point where it looks like Washington
- 10:40Speaker 1: is going to snap the ball, he shows blitz and
- 10:42Speaker 1: then backs out and then all of a sudden, the
- 10:43Speaker 1: guy's covered. I mean, it's just it's one of the
- 10:45Speaker 1: little things that's happening here. But it just it's just
- 10:48Speaker 1: those little things that they're doing and the fact that
- 10:51Speaker 1: they have the athleticism and the players to be able
- 10:53Speaker 1: to execute this kind of stuff that feels like it's
- 10:55Speaker 1: making this defense so miserable for opposing quarterbacks to try
- 10:59Speaker 1: and figure out.
- 11:00Speaker 2: Yeah, and again, so this is like, you know, as
- 11:01Speaker 2: I said, adding a few things to the toolbox or
- 11:04Speaker 2: maybe just pulling you know, one or two things out
- 11:06Speaker 2: for each game. So this is trapped two zone blitz.
- 11:10Speaker 2: We've talked about that last year, right, and so you know,
- 11:13Speaker 2: obviously it has some experience with this. So you're they're
- 11:15Speaker 2: showing pressure from the boundary, then they bring it from
- 11:17Speaker 2: the field, so you're you're ending up rushing five with styles.
- 11:21Speaker 2: It will both styles brothers as the two blitzers, and
- 11:25Speaker 2: you're dropping out to the to the boundary and then
- 11:27Speaker 2: Caleb Downs is coming over from the opposite side, right
- 11:29Speaker 2: he's taking that hook curl and then you're trapping the
- 11:32Speaker 2: flat and you have a deep defender over the top.
- 11:35Speaker 2: And so again this is like sort of consistent with
- 11:38Speaker 2: their zone coverage, like pretty you know, sound while you're
- 11:42Speaker 2: you're also showing disguise on the on the opponent. And
- 11:46Speaker 2: so again just like another tool in the toolboxes and
- 11:49Speaker 2: said you kind of see a little bit different things
- 11:51Speaker 2: come out each week.
- 11:53Speaker 1: And then this is one more thing that Arvel Reese
- 11:55Speaker 1: can do. This is another one where it's kind of
- 11:58Speaker 1: similar to the Kenyata Jackson where you know he kind
- 12:01Speaker 1: of just keeps demand Williams hend In that you know,
- 12:04Speaker 1: the defense on hold the whole does RVL res kind
- 12:06Speaker 1: of spying, but then also comes in very disciplined as
- 12:11Speaker 1: you said earlier and brings them down. It's just this
- 12:14Speaker 1: is just another one of these, like, man, this is
- 12:16Speaker 1: just such a sound defense right.
- 12:18Speaker 2: Now exactly, and and part of that's on the concepts
- 12:21Speaker 2: impart of that's just on the players themselves too, and
- 12:24Speaker 2: like you know, again like we keep seeing this, this
- 12:28Speaker 2: is a three two six. So this is what Patricia
- 12:30Speaker 2: likes to use on on must pass downs, right, like
- 12:33Speaker 2: three defensive this odd front, the two linebackers and then
- 12:37Speaker 2: six defensive backs. And you know, I talked about Ohio
- 12:40Speaker 2: State mostly being his zone coverage team, but like inside
- 12:43Speaker 2: the red zone here, like in these situations, they definitely
- 12:46Speaker 2: will pull out more man coverage. So you're running Cover
- 12:49Speaker 2: one rat here, Caleb Downs is dropping as the hook
- 12:51Speaker 2: defender or you know, rat defender the deep safeties UH
- 12:56Speaker 2: turning towards UH Washington's best receiver. So you're kind of
- 13:00Speaker 2: getting like an inside out double concept on him. And
- 13:05Speaker 2: then you know you're just using as I said, both
- 13:08Speaker 2: really styles is kind of sitting there waiting for the
- 13:13Speaker 2: running back. But then also Reese obviously is a spy,
- 13:15Speaker 2: and like you know, it helps when your linebacker can
- 13:18Speaker 2: do this, Like I've seen plenty of spy situations over
- 13:21Speaker 2: the years where like the spy is rendered worthless because
- 13:25Speaker 2: he can't once the quarterback leaves the pocket, he cannot
- 13:29Speaker 2: close on him like this, and so yes, Reese plays
- 13:32Speaker 2: him inside out. And just obviously when you have players
- 13:35Speaker 2: like this, it makes every scheme look better.
- 13:40Speaker 1: And you mentioned earlier how Ohio State has really just
- 13:42Speaker 1: sort of faced various types of running quarterbacks or at
- 13:45Speaker 1: least mobile quarterbacks in every game this year. That streak
- 13:49Speaker 1: is going to end on Saturday. Drake Lindsay watched some
- 13:52Speaker 1: of him against Rutgers and he's he's impressive and can
- 13:55Speaker 1: and can distribute the ball well, but he's also with
- 13:58Speaker 1: six foot five, two hundred and three a thirty pound
- 14:01Speaker 1: like real traditional pocket passer type. Minnesota is going to
- 14:06Speaker 1: likely well, we'll see, but Darius Taylor, they're start running back,
- 14:09Speaker 1: still dealing with a hamstring injury, so he'll probably be
- 14:11Speaker 1: either limited or not available. They really struggled to run
- 14:14Speaker 1: the ball against Rutgers last week. Lindsey feels like he's
- 14:18Speaker 1: not at all of a running threat. This feels like
- 14:20Speaker 1: an offense that is probably uniquely poorly suited to take
- 14:25Speaker 1: on this Ohio State defense.
- 14:26Speaker 2: It'll be interesting because now, yeah, it gives Patricia certainly
- 14:30Speaker 2: some more flexibility to use different stunts and pressures up
- 14:36Speaker 2: front when you have a less concern about rush lane integrity.
- 14:40Speaker 2: Obviously you always want rush land integrity, but you can
- 14:43Speaker 2: move guys around a little bit more to get to
- 14:45Speaker 2: that place, you know, and you know, Minnesota does like
- 14:50Speaker 2: using RPOs or run pass options, and so I think
- 14:55Speaker 2: you'll see, you know, you could see some more man
- 14:57Speaker 2: coverage again without as much concern about the TV run
- 15:01Speaker 2: threat as well. To respond to that.
- 15:04Speaker 1: All right, well, we will be talking about the Minnesota
- 15:07Speaker 1: game in the ohiosted offense and the High State defense
- 15:09Speaker 1: against the Gophers next week with Ross. And when we do,
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