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- 0:00Speaker 1: It's draft Miss time. It's draft Miss chime, smell of
- 0:05Speaker 1: pig skin in the air, it's trap best chime. Yeah,
- 0:09Speaker 1: Trap best time.
- 0:11Speaker 2: There's speculation anyway, bouncing balls so that Greg and Hugh
- 0:15Speaker 2: can sing along.
- 0:16Speaker 1: Wait, you got a customized song for those someone didn't
- 0:20Speaker 1: record this for you didn't? Yes, and you want to
- 0:23Speaker 1: know something crazy we have? We have people that like us, right,
- 0:26Speaker 1: I doubt that still.
- 0:28Speaker 3: I actually looked up so somebody asked who sang this
- 0:31Speaker 3: the other day? So I was like, oh, Scott Krapaine,
- 0:33Speaker 3: who's a listener? I did not realize he has written
- 0:37Speaker 3: like songs for actual people like artists.
- 0:40Speaker 2: Oh is that right? Yes? Well, no wonder because it's
- 0:42Speaker 2: the greatest song ever written. And people we've heard of.
- 0:45Speaker 1: Yeah, jobscribe. These aren't the AI boppers.
- 0:48Speaker 2: No, no, we do have one of those. We do
- 0:51Speaker 2: have an AI song. There's a legit like oh yeah
- 0:55Speaker 2: singer writer. So yeah, listener of the show. Yeah, oh
- 1:00Speaker 2: it's such a great song. Yeah, well I'll let you
- 1:02Speaker 2: listen to the whole thing. Yeah, it's just phenomenal. Well,
- 1:07Speaker 2: Happy Draftmas to everyone. A lot of people don't understand this,
- 1:10Speaker 2: but Draft Miss actually ends at ten o'clock today because
- 1:12Speaker 2: it is Draft Day. So the Draft miss is the
- 1:14Speaker 2: build up to the actual draft day. That's a holiday
- 1:17Speaker 2: in and of itself, but this is it. And I
- 1:21Speaker 2: can't think of a better way to finish out our
- 1:24Speaker 2: Draft miss celebration than to have our Seahawks insider Greg
- 1:28Speaker 2: Bell and our QB one Hugh Millen in studio with
- 1:32Speaker 2: us to celebrate the holiday for a special edition of
- 1:36Speaker 2: the twelfth Man round Table. So good to see you
- 1:39Speaker 2: two fellas.
- 1:40Speaker 1: Yeah, Happy Draftmas. So I feel under dressed here, I know, correct,
- 1:47Speaker 1: you know, just be in flannel pajamas. Actually that would
- 1:50Speaker 1: be more Christmas morning. Ask handstitch some robes for you?
- 1:53Speaker 2: Would you like?
- 1:54Speaker 4: Uh?
- 1:55Speaker 2: Would you like to try them on? No?
- 1:59Speaker 1: For the effort though? Thanks for how many hours? It
- 2:04Speaker 1: like eighty hours each?
- 2:05Speaker 2: No big deal, it's Draftmas season. Well, before we dive
- 2:12Speaker 2: in with our analyst, I do want to let you
- 2:14Speaker 2: know thousand dollars in Grand Slam cash today. Deposit is
- 2:17Speaker 2: your keyword entered at ninety three to three k R
- 2:20Speaker 2: dot com for your shot at one thousand dollars. All right,
- 2:24Speaker 2: let's go. Let's talk some NFL draft and as as
- 2:28Speaker 2: much tongue in cheek Draftmas celebration as we do on
- 2:32Speaker 2: this show because of me. Don't blame Ashley, don't blame
- 2:36Speaker 2: Bucky and cheat. Yeah, wait all this is tongue in cheese. Yeah,
- 2:44Speaker 2: it has become a monstrous event, has it? No, I
- 2:48Speaker 2: mean even to the hue, to the level of where
- 2:52Speaker 2: that's the tongue in cheek aspect, Yeah, of it is.
- 2:55Speaker 2: I really lean into making it sound like it's the
- 2:57Speaker 2: biggest thing in the world. It's even bigger than Christmas.
- 3:01Speaker 2: But it is amazing how enormous this thing is.
- 3:05Speaker 1: Well, you know, I kind of poke fun at the
- 3:08Speaker 1: baseball guys to say that the first round of the
- 3:11Speaker 1: draft over this decade, since twenty twenty, averages more viewers
- 3:16Speaker 1: than the World Series. So you know, but you know,
- 3:18Speaker 1: I was Bucky was here to just kind of, you know,
- 3:20Speaker 1: like twist a knife on him. But you know, actually,
- 3:24Speaker 1: I know, Gang, I've got a take that might make
- 3:29Speaker 1: some people throw up in their mouth on this one,
- 3:32Speaker 1: but I'm actually more being more serious. I'm a little
- 3:35Speaker 1: bit literal on this. Obviously, it's the blend of college
- 3:38Speaker 1: football and pro football. But we've all heard of the
- 3:42Speaker 1: Bachelor Institution don't say you haven't. It's been around since
- 3:47Speaker 1: two thousand and two. And the average NBA and Major
- 3:55Speaker 1: League Baseball is a little under two million on a
- 3:57Speaker 1: regular season night, and then Howky he's a little under
- 4:00Speaker 1: five hundred. Together they're under five million viewers averaged. The
- 4:08Speaker 1: the uh even after the first wave of the Bachelor interest,
- 4:13Speaker 1: they average seven million a night, So they they outdraw
- 4:18Speaker 1: all three combined with base baseball, Basketball, and hockey. So
- 4:23Speaker 1: what and what is it? So you got three hours tonight,
- 4:26Speaker 1: you're gonna have not one. On the final episode of
- 4:29Speaker 1: The Bachelor, they give away one final rose. Right, you're
- 4:33Speaker 1: gonna see it tonight. You're gonna see thirty two final roses.
- 4:38Speaker 1: It's it's not just the football players, you know, and
- 4:42Speaker 1: the NFL and the combination of those two. The human
- 4:46Speaker 1: interest stories are just that they're so riveting, right the
- 4:50Speaker 1: you know that you know, mostly on the first round
- 4:52Speaker 1: it's joy, but you know some there's obviously the guys
- 4:55Speaker 1: who aren't getting drafted. That those the reality to the
- 5:00Speaker 1: part of it and the whole like you've this is
- 5:03Speaker 1: your whole life and now you're getting the final rose.
- 5:06Speaker 1: I know I'm kind of mixing metaphors here, but uh,
- 5:10Speaker 1: but any rate, I think I think that part of
- 5:14Speaker 1: it drives the whole, the whole entity. I mean, what else.
- 5:20Speaker 2: Really, it's one of the driving things behind why I
- 5:23Speaker 2: like the draft so much. I mean, we talk about
- 5:25Speaker 2: picks and trades and rumors and everything else, but man,
- 5:29Speaker 2: where else do we get to see right in front
- 5:31Speaker 2: of our faces dreams come true? And that's one of
- 5:35Speaker 2: the things that drew me to this as a kid.
- 5:38Speaker 2: I wish that it could have happened in every profession.
- 5:41Speaker 2: I wish I would have gotten drafted out of college
- 5:43Speaker 2: for radio. I would have loved to have, you know,
- 5:46Speaker 2: walked up on a stage and thank my mom and
- 5:49Speaker 2: you know, hugged Marconi and and found out that I
- 5:54Speaker 2: was going to Pittsburgh to be a morning show sports talk.
- 5:59Speaker 1: I have loved that. I loved it.
- 6:00Speaker 2: We love it for anybody's profession out there.
- 6:03Speaker 1: This tonight is the culmination of life, dreams and work.
- 6:07Speaker 1: Every profession. It takes a long long time and a
- 6:11Speaker 1: lot of work and a lot of early rises. And
- 6:13Speaker 1: I don't tell you this, but six am weightlifting and
- 6:16Speaker 1: Captain's practices and running the stairs in two days for
- 6:21Speaker 1: this and yeah, and whether you're a seventh round pick
- 6:25Speaker 1: or a first round pick. I covered a draft when
- 6:27Speaker 1: it was twelve rounds. I covered a draft when it
- 6:30Speaker 1: was in the afternoon. Yeah, that's how old I am.
- 6:33Speaker 2: In a basement, it was around doctor Z.
- 6:38Speaker 1: Every single one of the two hundred and fifty plus
- 6:41Speaker 1: draft picks tonight has a story on how they got here,
- 6:44Speaker 1: has a story of their family. Malachi Lawrence, who I
- 6:46Speaker 1: have the Seahawks drafting by trading down on top of
- 6:49Speaker 1: the second round, is one of nine children in his
- 6:51Speaker 1: family from Louisville, Kentucky. Do you think tonight or tomorrow
- 6:55Speaker 1: when he gets drafted is not going to be a
- 6:57Speaker 1: monumental life changing event for those nine siblings in that
- 7:01Speaker 1: family of twelve? Of course it is. Hey, that's just
- 7:05Speaker 1: one out of two hundred and fifty plus stories that
- 7:07Speaker 1: come true tonight. Yeah, for sure. And my first year
- 7:10Speaker 1: playing tackle football is nine years old. Right, There's a
- 7:13Speaker 1: lot of kids in those youth football leagues and then
- 7:15Speaker 1: and then you kind of just keep rising and rising,
- 7:17Speaker 1: and then all the kids at nine would have you know,
- 7:21Speaker 1: they're all huge fans, would love to have been This
- 7:24Speaker 1: is before the Seahawks, But you know, whatever. You know,
- 7:26Speaker 1: you're an NFL fan. And then as you kept going,
- 7:28Speaker 1: if you were playing tackle football when you're nine or
- 7:32Speaker 1: twelve or fifteen, whatever, you're in all likely at an
- 7:35Speaker 1: NFL fan. So then the Lord kind of blesses some people,
- 7:39Speaker 1: and obviously you're grateful beyond measure. And then you get
- 7:45Speaker 1: this opportunity. Wow, this game that I've been watching since
- 7:48Speaker 1: I was nine and dreamed about it actually might happen
- 7:53Speaker 1: for me, you know. I mean, it's like, Yeah.
- 7:55Speaker 2: That's why the Josh Rosens of the world bother me
- 7:58Speaker 2: so much. The guys that can go top ten and
- 8:00Speaker 2: are just angry. How dare nine teams skip the.
- 8:05Speaker 1: Terrible every pro athlete it's driven by a perceived or
- 8:08Speaker 1: real chip on their shoulder or they create it.
- 8:10Speaker 2: But I get it, but at least enjoy the moment.
- 8:13Speaker 2: I mean, it's a dream come true for everybody. You
- 8:16Speaker 2: got picked above two hundred and forty guys tonight and
- 8:18Speaker 2: you're pissed.
- 8:19Speaker 1: The other reason that this hell is wrong with you,
- 8:22Speaker 1: The other reason that this is such a TV ratings
- 8:25Speaker 1: bonanza is this it really is a made for TV event.
- 8:27Speaker 1: When you go to the draft itself, it's chaotic, just
- 8:32Speaker 1: and then you're standing there is nothing happens between picks,
- 8:35Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, the commission comes up
- 8:37Speaker 1: says it. You might see the person coming on the stage.
- 8:40Speaker 1: It might not. Fans are put Joshlyn, especially now that
- 8:42Speaker 1: they're having tonight they're having at Point State Park in Pittsburgh.
- 8:45Speaker 1: It's gonna be a bunch of mashed people into the
- 8:47Speaker 1: confluence of the rivers, into a triangle. It's not a
- 8:51Speaker 1: very good in person event. And the reason people ask
- 8:54Speaker 1: me all the time, how come you don't go to
- 8:55Speaker 1: the draft to cover it? For those that don't know
- 8:58Speaker 1: each NFL team, the Seahawks, for instance, have just one person.
- 9:02Speaker 1: The person who answers the phone, writes a name on
- 9:04Speaker 1: a card and hands it to the commissioner or the
- 9:06Speaker 1: commission's assistant. That's it. Yeah, there's nobody of decision making
- 9:10Speaker 1: or import. I won't say import because yeah, that person
- 9:13Speaker 1: that's important, but there's nobody of influence that's going to
- 9:17Speaker 1: make decisions at the draft itself. So all of them
- 9:20Speaker 1: are at the Seahawks headquarters, which is why we're all there.
- 9:22Speaker 1: But yeah, that's another aspect of it being a made
- 9:25Speaker 1: for TV event is that nobody. The clubs aren't there. Yeah,
- 9:29Speaker 1: And I love the NFL exploits.
- 9:32Speaker 2: The I love that the war rooms right down the
- 9:34Speaker 2: whole lot of war.
- 9:35Speaker 1: Room not a war room. Yeah, I've been in one.
- 9:41Speaker 2: Greg Mel Hugh Melling with us here at Studio twelve
- 9:44Speaker 2: Man Roundtable Draft edition right here on Chuck and Buck
- 9:48Speaker 2: in the morning. So all right, So to use huge analogy, Greg,
- 9:51Speaker 2: will John Schneider be handing out a rose to a
- 9:54Speaker 2: player tonight or not?
- 9:56Speaker 1: I would think if I had to peg it, it's
- 9:58Speaker 1: seventy five percent chance that they trade down. It's not
- 10:01Speaker 1: a hundred because trade by nature means you have to
- 10:04Speaker 1: have a partner. You can't just do it unilaterally or
- 10:07Speaker 1: else I'd say it was one hundred percent. They want to.
- 10:10Speaker 1: They've advertised that they went to every year. They've even
- 10:12Speaker 1: tried the last couple of years that they haven't traded.
- 10:14Speaker 1: We mentioned that the year a couple of years ago
- 10:16Speaker 1: that they had a trade in place with green Bay
- 10:18Speaker 1: at the bottom of round one, and then Miami jumped
- 10:20Speaker 1: in front and took the player that green Bay would
- 10:22Speaker 1: have takenhead they traded with Seattle. So all those things,
- 10:25Speaker 1: the confluence of events have to come together. Ty Simpson
- 10:28Speaker 1: at the bottom of round one will excel. It'd be
- 10:30Speaker 1: the accelerator, the ingredient that would make this work tonight
- 10:35Speaker 1: most easily. But that's not the only way. If Cleveland
- 10:38Speaker 1: likes a cornerback, and there's a glut of cornerbacks that
- 10:41Speaker 1: could go later in the first round and high in
- 10:43Speaker 1: the second round and high same with edge rushers. Those
- 10:46Speaker 1: are the two of the strongest positions in this draft.
- 10:51Speaker 1: Crazy Hugh that there is only one quarterback talked about
- 10:54Speaker 1: being drafted in the first round tonight. What we had
- 10:57Speaker 1: six in the first ten or something a couple of
- 10:58Speaker 1: years ago. That is one measure of how this draft
- 11:03Speaker 1: is weaker. In why the Seahawks only have four picks.
- 11:06Speaker 1: I don't think they're going to go a whole hog,
- 11:08Speaker 1: and Snyder's going to be trying to cultivate six to
- 11:10Speaker 1: seven picks through a series of trades. But if the
- 11:14Speaker 1: Arizona scenario comes true and they go from thirty four
- 11:17Speaker 1: to thirty two and the Seahawks drop down just two spots,
- 11:20Speaker 1: I could absolutely and in fact would then become likely
- 11:23Speaker 1: to me that Snyder would then parlay that thirty fourth
- 11:26Speaker 1: pick and trade down yet again, because if the Seahawks
- 11:30Speaker 1: decide to trade down from thirty two, they're pretty sure
- 11:33Speaker 1: they know the teams immediately behind thirty two are not
- 11:36Speaker 1: going to take their guy, or they wouldn't do it.
- 11:38Speaker 1: And I think they could be reasonably assured that if
- 11:41Speaker 1: the two spots, maybe five spots, maybe go back to
- 11:44Speaker 1: Cleveland at thirty nine, who I have mocked at thenews
- 11:46Speaker 1: Tribune dot com about that that's going to be their
- 11:48Speaker 1: trade partner. But thirty two to thirty four, to me,
- 11:52Speaker 1: they'll get a fourth round pick for that on the
- 11:54Speaker 1: draft value chart in addition to that top quarterback they
- 11:57Speaker 1: might get in here even well, then you ud up
- 11:59Speaker 1: the for quarterback, of course, but I think thirty four
- 12:03Speaker 1: could become thirty nine and then two more picks. But
- 12:06Speaker 1: I don't think Snyder is going to go too deep
- 12:08Speaker 1: into that room because of how weak he perceives this
- 12:11Speaker 1: draft to be. But to answer your question, yes, Seahawk fans,
- 12:15Speaker 1: I think you'll be watching the draft for three and
- 12:16Speaker 1: a half hours and nothing happens a trade.
- 12:18Speaker 2: We've got a big show planned for tomorrow and we're
- 12:21Speaker 2: going to break down.
- 12:23Speaker 1: Trade back.
- 12:25Speaker 2: As what it's going to be.
- 12:26Speaker 1: The ten they have traded at first round pick Bros,
- 12:28Speaker 1: repeating fourteen times in John Schneider's sixteen drafts. All ten
- 12:33Speaker 1: of those have been to move down, and the other
- 12:35Speaker 1: four were for players Russell Wilson, Jamal Adams, Percy Harbin,
- 12:39Speaker 1: and Jimmy Graham. They have never traded up. So he
- 12:43Speaker 1: is always in the business and moving back, and the
- 12:45Speaker 1: whole league knows it. His phone is ringing this morning.
- 12:48Speaker 1: This is the day. He mentioned that this this morning
- 12:50Speaker 1: is when the calls get real, but they won't get
- 12:53Speaker 1: real real with offers that are concrete until the draft begins.
- 12:56Speaker 2: Is there a need so pressing that maybe you shouldn't
- 13:00Speaker 2: toying around with that Hugh like cornerback, edge, running back.
- 13:05Speaker 2: Those are the three position groups we've been talking about
- 13:07Speaker 2: throughout this process. Is if asked for advice, you're like,
- 13:12Speaker 2: I don't know if you should be toying around and
- 13:14Speaker 2: moving down too much. Let's get somebody we really like
- 13:16Speaker 2: it one of those three persons.
- 13:17Speaker 1: Well, I think running back is the position most in
- 13:21Speaker 1: need in my opinion. Cornerback arguably, when you consider how
- 13:26Speaker 1: the Seahawks their propensity to run the dime package really
- 13:30Speaker 1: accelerated throughout the year and with thirty six snaps of
- 13:34Speaker 1: dime in the Super Bowl by far the most. When
- 13:39Speaker 1: they when they play dime, they have Devin Witherspoon. He
- 13:42Speaker 1: drops in and he plays as a apex overhang defender
- 13:46Speaker 1: inside and that means a corner. Reek Wollen generally had
- 13:51Speaker 1: been the guy that comes in and plays on the outside. Well,
- 13:55Speaker 1: now you don't have Rek Willan, so you know Pritchett.
- 13:58Speaker 1: If it's not somebody on the roster now, then it
- 14:03Speaker 1: would you'd have to be thinking about a draft pick.
- 14:05Speaker 1: But I just think right now, if you had to
- 14:08Speaker 1: line up and play a regular season game and you
- 14:11Speaker 1: say tell me who's the who's getting the first carry,
- 14:14Speaker 1: who's your who's your starting halfback? I don't I don't
- 14:16Speaker 1: see anybody on that rock. If as presidently constituted, they
- 14:22Speaker 1: hit play the game tomorrow with the running back room
- 14:25Speaker 1: they have, I think they'd be in the bottom quadrant
- 14:28Speaker 1: at running back. And I could and and that might
- 14:30Speaker 1: be generous. I might. You might stretch me to you know,
- 14:33Speaker 1: bottom three or four in the league. And here's the
- 14:35Speaker 1: thing on that all seven of the running backs and
- 14:38Speaker 1: the ninety man roster, none of them are signed beyond
- 14:41Speaker 1: twenty twenty six. In the draft, we forget sometimes the
- 14:45Speaker 1: draft isn't for now, it's first round, could be for now,
- 14:50Speaker 1: the draft for four years because you get four year
- 14:52Speaker 1: contracts on every one of your picks. So they are
- 14:54Speaker 1: projecting what their first pick, their second pick, what they'll
- 14:58Speaker 1: look like in the roster to with three or four
- 15:00Speaker 1: years down the road. And the Seahawks have this many
- 15:03Speaker 1: zero running backs on contract, and the one you would
- 15:08Speaker 1: think is the odds on favorite to re sign, Zach
- 15:10Speaker 1: Charbonay is coming off of a reconstructive knee surgery and
- 15:13Speaker 1: may not play to the middle of the season. If
- 15:15Speaker 1: then huge questions. The thing is, that's the weakest position
- 15:19Speaker 1: in this draft.
- 15:20Speaker 2: Running back.
- 15:21Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe one goes in the top fifty, maybe two
- 15:24Speaker 1: with price for Notre Dame, and that's it. And then
- 15:27Speaker 1: there's a cliff down to number three and a lot
- 15:30Speaker 1: of teams already are predetermined not to value running backs
- 15:33Speaker 1: that high. Now, having said that, Jeremiah Love is likely
- 15:36Speaker 1: to go in the top five, if not top three,
- 15:39Speaker 1: I don't think gets past the Giants at five, but
- 15:42Speaker 1: that's it. Then there's going to be a desert. And
- 15:45Speaker 1: yet the Seahawks definitely is the most pressingable. And going
- 15:49Speaker 1: back to your comment about the second quarterback, if you
- 15:53Speaker 1: go over since twenty fifteen, the second quarterback, so that's
- 16:01Speaker 1: eleven drafts, the second quarterback has been taken in the
- 16:06Speaker 1: top six on eight of those eleven times, top ten
- 16:14Speaker 1: nine of eleven and so you know, and there's been
- 16:20Speaker 1: five times that he's been the number two draft. The
- 16:25Speaker 1: second quarterback five out of the last eleven times has
- 16:28Speaker 1: been the second pick in the draft. So for ty
- 16:31Speaker 1: Simpson projected to be late first, perhaps early second, what
- 16:36Speaker 1: have you, that is extremely rare. I mean last year
- 16:42Speaker 1: actually you had. Yeah, last year, the second one was
- 16:48Speaker 1: twenty fifth. So last year was a bad year. The year,
- 16:51Speaker 1: but the prior two years before that it was the
- 16:54Speaker 1: second pick, and three of the four prior years before that,
- 16:59Speaker 1: the second quarterback was the second pick in the draft.
- 17:02Speaker 1: So this is bad year for quarterbacks. I don't think
- 17:04Speaker 1: it's a bad year at the top, but the depth
- 17:08Speaker 1: of it just you know, drops off.
- 17:11Speaker 2: Well, let's talk about that Mendoza at number one.
- 17:14Speaker 1: What do you think. I think he's totally worth it.
- 17:17Speaker 1: I mean you're talking about a big dude close to
- 17:19Speaker 1: six five, two thirty six. I think he I don't
- 17:22Speaker 1: think he has a lead elusiveness, but I think he's
- 17:25Speaker 1: a decent athlete. The famous run that he had against
- 17:27Speaker 1: Miami on the fourth down quarterback draw. But you know'd
- 17:31Speaker 1: he'd be a number one overall pick to you in
- 17:32Speaker 1: almost any draft. Well that in my opinion, if I
- 17:37Speaker 1: go back to twenty ten, that's Schneider's first year, and
- 17:44Speaker 1: you know it's a cut off point, it's a round number,
- 17:46Speaker 1: and you know it reflects some of the modern coaching
- 17:49Speaker 1: or scouting. Rather, I think here's the guys that I
- 17:52Speaker 1: think would go in front of Mendoza if Mendoza, like
- 17:57Speaker 1: I agree with mel Kiper that the number one, one
- 18:00Speaker 1: of all number ones is John Elway. If you have
- 18:02Speaker 1: a time machine, you put John Elway in any draft.
- 18:06Speaker 1: You put him in the O. J. Simpson draft, he
- 18:08Speaker 1: Elway's going on, You put him in the Bubba Smith draft.
- 18:10Speaker 1: OJ's going on. You put him in the Peyton Manning
- 18:13Speaker 1: or Troy always going number one. I so that so
- 18:16Speaker 1: if you kind of think in those terms, Okay, now
- 18:18Speaker 1: we have a time machine for Mendoza in the Snyder era,
- 18:24Speaker 1: these are the guys I think go in front of Mendoza,
- 18:28Speaker 1: Andrew Luck, Trevor Lawrence, Joe Burrow, Caleb Williams. Then I've
- 18:32Speaker 1: got those are for sures in my mind. There's no
- 18:36Speaker 1: way to prove or falsify this, but that's just my
- 18:39Speaker 1: take on it. I think Jamis Winston, probably Cam Newton,
- 18:44Speaker 1: maybe these are the guys that I think Mendoza would
- 18:47Speaker 1: go over. I think Sam Bradford, cam Ward, Jared Goff, Kyler,
- 18:54Speaker 1: Murray Baker, Mayfield, Bryce Young, Miles Garrett, and that year,
- 18:58Speaker 1: Miss Trubisky was the the second pick, Jadavian Clowney. First
- 19:03Speaker 1: quarterback was break Blake Bortles, the number three, Trayvon Walker.
- 19:08Speaker 1: That was the Brice Uh, excuse me and let me
- 19:14Speaker 1: see here if I can, uh, and then Eric Fisher.
- 19:18Speaker 1: So I think the majority I think I had at
- 19:20Speaker 1: sixteen of the sixteen, I think that eleven of those
- 19:25Speaker 1: years he would be number one, certainly more than half.
- 19:30Speaker 1: So I think he's really a legit prospect when you consider, uh,
- 19:35Speaker 1: just that there's a Joe Burrow quality to the you know,
- 19:40Speaker 1: national champion. How great he played in the playoffs. Now
- 19:43Speaker 1: he didn't put the yards up, but he didn't have
- 19:45Speaker 1: justin Jefferson and and and uh you know, uh and
- 19:50Speaker 1: all the rest of those guys. But but you look
- 19:53Speaker 1: at at his accuracy, you know, his arm strength, I
- 19:58Speaker 1: don't know. I think yes, uh and as bright as
- 20:01Speaker 1: guy as you ever. You know, he's a student, what
- 20:05Speaker 1: graduated three years from cal with a business degree, originally
- 20:10Speaker 1: was going to go to Yale. Uh So I think
- 20:13Speaker 1: the processing is lead and you see it on the tape.
- 20:15Speaker 1: I mean his anticipation. So he's got the arm, he's
- 20:18Speaker 1: got the Uh. Yeah, I think he's got just about
- 20:22Speaker 1: every box you can check.
- 20:23Speaker 2: Hugh mellon Greg Bell. It is our twelve man round
- 20:26Speaker 2: table draft edit show. We will continue. We'll talk about
- 20:29Speaker 2: whether or not there is a favorite in the clubhouse
- 20:32Speaker 2: to become a seahawk. In the early second round. Sports
- 20:36Speaker 2: Radio ninety three point three kJ R f M, there
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- 20:51Speaker 1: Your favorites pretty good? Yeah, it's really good. I mean
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- 21:02Speaker 1: I was driving down the street, I wouldn't listen at
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- 21:08Speaker 1: pretty good. I can handle six seconds of this. Greg
- 21:12Speaker 1: AI sucks. They're coming after my job. They're coming after journalism,
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- 21:38Speaker 2: It's our twelve man roundtable. We've got Chuck Hugh, We've
- 21:41Speaker 2: got Greg Bell here, We've got Ashley Ryan here. It's
- 21:44Speaker 2: draft day, draft edition of the round Table, and we
- 21:48Speaker 2: got a lot to discuss. So we did mention the
- 21:51Speaker 2: Seahawks maybe needs it running back cornerbacks? Greg, where is it?
- 21:57Speaker 2: What's the name that you keep hearing associated? What's that
- 22:01Speaker 2: first name that's going to come off the board for
- 22:03Speaker 2: the Seahawks this year?
- 22:06Speaker 1: Well, the running back that makes the most sense to
- 22:08Speaker 1: me is the Darien Price, both in where they're picking,
- 22:11Speaker 1: where they even might pick if they trade back. I
- 22:14Speaker 1: believe Price may be available at the bottom of the
- 22:17Speaker 1: second round with their original sixty fourth pick at the
- 22:19Speaker 1: bottom round two.
- 22:20Speaker 2: Well, based on what we discussed in the previous segment,
- 22:24Speaker 2: I mean, if it is that big of a need.
- 22:27Speaker 1: Or they don't perceive that one, they don't draft for need. Now,
- 22:30Speaker 1: when they do it right, they'll just take the best
- 22:32Speaker 1: player on their board. If he's a wide receiver, if
- 22:35Speaker 1: they if the guy from Arizona State Tyson is there,
- 22:39Speaker 1: they'll pick him. They Schneider has now the luxury has
- 22:43Speaker 1: a Super Bowl champion to do that. He has a
- 22:46Speaker 1: roster that has ten of eleven starters on offense, coming
- 22:49Speaker 1: back all eleven starters counting Josh job Overrekrul and coming
- 22:52Speaker 1: back on defense of a Super Bowl champion. So with
- 22:56Speaker 1: the culture and everything that comes with it, so he
- 22:59Speaker 1: has the luxury of saying, you know what, I'm not
- 23:02Speaker 1: taking a running back that if I have If our board,
- 23:05Speaker 1: says Dea Darien Price is a fifth best player on
- 23:09Speaker 1: our board at thirty two or thirty four or thirty
- 23:12Speaker 1: nine or sixty four, they're not going to pick them.
- 23:16Speaker 1: They'll pick a running back in the third round or
- 23:18Speaker 1: the fourth round if they pick up a pick. That's
- 23:22Speaker 1: the discipline that Snyder has said he has pledged to do,
- 23:25Speaker 1: and when he's gone away from it, he's had bad drafts.
- 23:27Speaker 1: I think Malik McDowell LJ. Collier when he thinks he's
- 23:32Speaker 1: got a need and made picks for need is when
- 23:35Speaker 1: the team wasn't as good as it was this hell,
- 23:38Speaker 1: they've only been this good twice in fifty years of existence,
- 23:41Speaker 1: so they have an advantage of we can pick the
- 23:45Speaker 1: best player. And I don't think there's a running back
- 23:48Speaker 1: on the board outside jeremih I Love that will be
- 23:50Speaker 1: the best player on the Seahawks board until late in
- 23:52Speaker 1: round two. That's my opinion. That's what I've been told
- 23:55Speaker 1: that they've been scouting wise, but now they have looked
- 23:57Speaker 1: at price, and they were at price and loves pro
- 23:59Speaker 1: dain in Notre Dame. They talked to their running backs coach.
- 24:02Speaker 1: They've done their due diligence on that. They've had Mike
- 24:05Speaker 1: Washington Junior of Arkansas in the building as a pre
- 24:08Speaker 1: draft visit. They've looked at two or three other running backs,
- 24:12Speaker 1: one from Toledo and.
- 24:14Speaker 2: One from Virginia.
- 24:15Speaker 1: So they it's not like they don't realize. Yeah, and
- 24:19Speaker 1: they have, as I said, an opportunity to get a
- 24:21Speaker 1: guy in a four year contract in a position that
- 24:23Speaker 1: nobody's under contract beyond this year. So I think they're
- 24:25Speaker 1: going to draft one. I haven't drafting Mike Washington Junior
- 24:29Speaker 1: later third or fourth round. I actually haven't taken a
- 24:33Speaker 1: nose tackle big citrus from Iowa State. If you guys
- 24:36Speaker 1: have looked into them. Yeah, I think that's the third
- 24:38Speaker 1: round pick. And they could probably get a running back
- 24:41Speaker 1: and maybe it's Mike Washington in.
- 24:42Speaker 2: The fourth round.
- 24:44Speaker 1: The running back position is just so devalued.
- 24:46Speaker 2: That's just it.
- 24:47Speaker 1: Though.
- 24:47Speaker 2: That's where I'll throw it to you. Here is like, okay,
- 24:50Speaker 2: combining the two conversations, Okay, there is. It feels like
- 24:56Speaker 2: there's a need there, and yet there are only like
- 24:58Speaker 2: three guys worth taking. Looking at sixty four if he
- 25:03Speaker 2: makes it that far, or even at thirty four or
- 25:07Speaker 2: thirty two, and if you mess around and wait till
- 25:11Speaker 2: sixty four, I have a feeling Washington price are going
- 25:16Speaker 2: to be off the board at that point and then
- 25:18Speaker 2: I'm definitely not going to reach the running back for
- 25:21Speaker 2: a while.
- 25:21Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 25:21Speaker 2: And to me, that's a scenario, Hugh, where we're going
- 25:24Speaker 2: to be on Day three in round six Seahawks have
- 25:26Speaker 2: not drafted a running back. I think, freak.
- 25:29Speaker 1: I think that's entirely possible. Yeah, yeah, it could. I
- 25:31Speaker 1: mean a lot of people, Look, I'm aware that there's
- 25:36Speaker 1: you know, scores of of analysts whatever that have have
- 25:41Speaker 1: mocked price to Seattle. I get that, and Greg, I
- 25:45Speaker 1: agree in principle with what you said about taking the best.
- 25:49Speaker 1: I get I do not think that that that is
- 25:52Speaker 1: an absolute Mandy because if let's say Ty Simpsons is
- 25:57Speaker 1: the highest graded guy at thirty two on their board,
- 26:01Speaker 1: you think they're gonna draft Ty Simpson? I mean, are
- 26:03Speaker 1: the Bears If Ty Simpson Bears are at twenty five,
- 26:07Speaker 1: if Ty Simpsons the number one ranked player, right, they're
- 26:11Speaker 1: not taking time like if meteor strikes happened. Sure, and
- 26:15Speaker 1: the Sex would not take a wide receiver this year,
- 26:18Speaker 1: No way. And so I think that I think yes
- 26:21Speaker 1: to a varying degrees with different teams, but no team
- 26:26Speaker 1: ever has been absolute in that in my opinion. And
- 26:29Speaker 1: now and now to your point, I remember, actually, you know,
- 26:33Speaker 1: we all have this kind of little media scrum when
- 26:38Speaker 1: guys are drafted after the day, and I remember asking Schneider,
- 26:43Speaker 1: you know what, why'd you take Chris and Michael? And
- 26:46Speaker 1: I remember how he looked at me and he looked
- 26:49Speaker 1: you know how dogs when they look at you and
- 26:50Speaker 1: they're confused, their head goes sideways. He looked at me,
- 26:54Speaker 1: he goes he's the best player on a board. So
- 26:57Speaker 1: that speaks to what you said. But because it didn't
- 27:01Speaker 1: feel like I can't remember who was on the roster
- 27:03Speaker 1: at the time, but but it didn't feel like that
- 27:05Speaker 1: was a lad. Then it was a seconds it was
- 27:08Speaker 1: he was a second round pick, it wasn't a first rounder.
- 27:10Speaker 1: So I think that, yes, that's true, but but it's
- 27:13Speaker 1: not taken to an absolute degree with any team in
- 27:17Speaker 1: my opinion. So now, listen, they draft a wide receiver
- 27:23Speaker 1: you could blow, you can knock me over with the
- 27:25Speaker 1: feather that I just there's no way I believe that.
- 27:27Speaker 1: So I think I think what it is is they
- 27:29Speaker 1: say they they they all their positions. They kind of
- 27:33Speaker 1: it's not do we have a team need binary yes
- 27:36Speaker 1: or no. It's on a scale it's two hundred and
- 27:38Speaker 1: fifty six shades of gray of how much they have
- 27:40Speaker 1: a need. Like when the Seahawks took Steve Hutchinson, guard
- 27:44Speaker 1: wasn't a huge need at that time, I remember it,
- 27:48Speaker 1: but he was what seventeenth pick, And and then all
- 27:51Speaker 1: of a sudden they got this guy that they they think, well, hey, listen,
- 27:54Speaker 1: this guy is a game changer. And then and then
- 27:58Speaker 1: they went in head and did it. So I think
- 27:59Speaker 1: that I think that right now, it's it's the best
- 28:03Speaker 1: player available at the teams that are at the positions
- 28:08Speaker 1: you need it, which is a is a graded scale.
- 28:13Speaker 1: That would be the best way that I would describe it, right,
- 28:16Speaker 1: And so you know, could they could they take it? Yeah?
- 28:19Speaker 1: Could they take a linebacker if they if a linebacker.
- 28:22Speaker 1: Linebacker isn't a primary need, but it's a need, you know,
- 28:25Speaker 1: if they rank their needs. So if if an elite
- 28:29Speaker 1: linebacker falls to them, that yeah, right. But I still
- 28:32Speaker 1: think it's it's reflected, Okay. I don't mean to portray
- 28:35Speaker 1: it as an absolute. I meant to portray it as
- 28:37Speaker 1: to how they think and what their philosophy is for
- 28:41Speaker 1: when they zag, when everyone thinks they're gonna zig. The
- 28:44Speaker 1: Seahawks are the kings of that in the league, and
- 28:47Speaker 1: Snyder is the kings of that because Snyder's board is
- 28:50Speaker 1: different with different I mentioned to you, Chuck, I think
- 28:52Speaker 1: the most important aspect of this year's draft on their
- 28:55Speaker 1: draft board, the most important ingredient is not forty times.
- 28:59Speaker 1: It's not called college tape production. It's will they fit
- 29:03Speaker 1: in our culture? Competitiveness, teamwork, selflessness, They are taking long
- 29:09Speaker 1: I mean with a lot of o's long looks at
- 29:11Speaker 1: guys who spent all their college years at the same school,
- 29:15Speaker 1: which is my big Citrus guy. Dominique Orange from Iowa State,
- 29:20Speaker 1: Chris Johnson and San Diego State is another one. Raiden Stukes,
- 29:23Speaker 1: Traden Stukes is what forty two years old is another
- 29:26Speaker 1: one that those guys get longer looks from the Seahawks
- 29:30Speaker 1: because of the culture that McDonald. I asked McDonald about
- 29:32Speaker 1: that on Monday, and he said, absolutely, because we want
- 29:35Speaker 1: to know. We don't want to know how they fit
- 29:37Speaker 1: on the field. We can see and project that we're
- 29:40Speaker 1: trying to project, which is much more difficult, how they're
- 29:42Speaker 1: going to be in this locker room. Guys. When I
- 29:44Speaker 1: was in the locker room after the Super Bowl, and
- 29:47Speaker 1: I've covered a couple of Super Bowl champions as a
- 29:49Speaker 1: beat writer in as a reporter over thirty years, I
- 29:52Speaker 1: was struck at how dudes were despondent that they weren't
- 29:55Speaker 1: going to go to the meetings on Monday together and
- 29:57Speaker 1: not be in practices for the next six months. DeMarcus Lawrence,
- 30:03Speaker 1: Leonard Williams, Devin Witherspoon, Kobe Bryant, they was telling me,
- 30:08Speaker 1: this sucks. The season's over. I don't get to hang
- 30:11Speaker 1: with my guys. They may never replicate that, but how
- 30:14Speaker 1: can they get close to that again by bringing in
- 30:16Speaker 1: twenty twenty two to twenty five year olds who they
- 30:19Speaker 1: have no idea how they're going to react to that
- 30:20Speaker 1: as the rookies. That is the Seahawks challenge this weekend.
- 30:24Speaker 1: How are they going to bring in dudes that get
- 30:26Speaker 1: anything close to the culture they've had here. And that's
- 30:28Speaker 1: it intangible that you gotta talk to janitors at the
- 30:31Speaker 1: high schools and colleges, you gotta talk to teachers, you
- 30:34Speaker 1: gotta talk to dor marees. There's a lot of legwork
- 30:37Speaker 1: that goes into that part of what you can tell
- 30:40Speaker 1: in a locker room. When you lose a football game,
- 30:43Speaker 1: not everybody is affected by it the same. There's a scale.
- 30:49Speaker 1: There are some guys that are devastated, like we're regardless
- 30:54Speaker 1: of how well they played, you just lost the game
- 30:57Speaker 1: and they're devastated. There's some guys they're just button up
- 31:00Speaker 1: their shirt, They're, you know, ready to go to the club.
- 31:02Speaker 1: I'm getting to my check tomorrow, you know, you know
- 31:06Speaker 1: it's and and obviously teams on a day like this,
- 31:09Speaker 1: and in the process like this, you're doing everything you
- 31:12Speaker 1: can to find out the guys that winning really is
- 31:16Speaker 1: important to them.
- 31:16Speaker 2: Well, they got away from it, they got away from that,
- 31:19Speaker 2: and now they're back in on it. We've Greg and
- 31:21Speaker 2: I have discussed it almost every Saturday for the last
- 31:23Speaker 2: three three drafts, like this is a different type of
- 31:27Speaker 2: player that they're drafting right now. I mean, this is
- 31:31Speaker 2: the organization that drafted Malik McDowell. There were more red
- 31:34Speaker 2: flags around Malik McDowell than Fly for China.
- 31:37Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, And you know what's crazy about that. The
- 31:44Speaker 1: people would say, people who defended they'd say, well, how
- 31:48Speaker 1: would you know that the guy's going to go get
- 31:49Speaker 1: on ATV and go hit a tree rud And he said, well,
- 31:53Speaker 1: of course you didn't know that, right, But somewhere there's
- 31:57Speaker 1: a list, a near infinite list of all the calamities
- 32:01Speaker 1: that can befall you, and hitting a tree rut is
- 32:05Speaker 1: like number eight seventy seven on the list. But so
- 32:09Speaker 1: when you have a guy that has demonstrated the propensity
- 32:13Speaker 1: and the likelihood, you.
- 32:15Speaker 4: Don't know which one he's gonna hit, but you think
- 32:19Speaker 4: he's going to be on that list. He's going to
- 32:22Speaker 4: find one of those on the list. You know what
- 32:24Speaker 4: the opposite of that pick was Frank Clark.
- 32:27Speaker 1: I asked Schnyder this week who he spent them Mason,
- 32:31Speaker 1: In so many words, I asked him, who have you
- 32:33Speaker 1: spent the most time with off the field to learn
- 32:35Speaker 1: about so you knew to draft him? And he said
- 32:37Speaker 1: Frank Clark. He said it without hesitation. Remember, Frank Clark
- 32:40Speaker 1: had just been kicked off the Michigan football team, out
- 32:43Speaker 1: of the program rough incident and the Ohio domestic violence
- 32:47Speaker 1: at a hotel in Sandusky, Ohio, was kicked out of
- 32:50Speaker 1: the Michigan program. And NFL teams, like three fourths of
- 32:54Speaker 1: the NFL teams didn't have it on their draft board.
- 32:56Speaker 1: They weren't going to draft him over seven rounds, and
- 32:58Speaker 1: the Seahawks took him with their first pick, and all
- 33:01Speaker 1: of us, all of it, myself, Bob Candota, everybody in
- 33:06Speaker 1: the room was like, what the hell did they do
- 33:09Speaker 1: that for? They just walked in domestic violence into their
- 33:12Speaker 1: locker room. And John Schneider said that day and Monday,
- 33:17Speaker 1: we spent so much time, so much digging with so
- 33:20Speaker 1: many people off the football field. They learned something from that.
- 33:25Speaker 1: Frank Clark was brilliant for them. He was he was
- 33:27Speaker 1: so far better than anyone projected he would be. He
- 33:30Speaker 1: actually came back again. He's a folk around their beat
- 33:34Speaker 1: for many reasons, but he was great for them. But
- 33:37Speaker 1: that was a validation to Snyder of this is the
- 33:40Speaker 1: time you have to spend to get this right for
- 33:42Speaker 1: the culture and character piece. And they've doubled down on
- 33:45Speaker 1: that with Mike McDonald.
- 33:47Speaker 2: All right, a one more segment of our roundtable, Hugh
- 33:49Speaker 2: and Greg with us. It's Draft Day Sports Radio ninety
- 33:52Speaker 2: three point three KJRFM.
- 33:54Speaker 1: Where's you double all the time? Bucky, bring the burgers
- 33:58Speaker 1: and I'll bring the.
- 34:00Speaker 3: We'll have some beers and limes.
- 34:03Speaker 1: Have a mallar mallar.
- 34:04Speaker 2: Christmas down on fricking Mott Lake. Have a good old,
- 34:10Speaker 2: jolly old time and a mallar mallar Christmas this year.
- 34:15Speaker 1: Dogs, Babby, that's.
- 34:19Speaker 2: A lot of eggnog, has a lot of draft dog
- 34:23Speaker 2: round Table draft edish, that's true. We've got one segment
- 34:27Speaker 2: to go, uh So, just a little bit of time
- 34:30Speaker 2: to chop it up here with Greg Bell and Hugh
- 34:32Speaker 2: Millan on our round Table. H we have become accustomed
- 34:36Speaker 2: Greg to John Schneider surprising us doing something that we've
- 34:39Speaker 2: never seen before. So what would surprise you most tonight?
- 34:43Speaker 1: That might go down? Well, in that frame, never seen before,
- 34:46Speaker 1: it would shock me. But it's in the Roman possibility.
- 34:49Speaker 1: They trade up from thirty two with only four picks,
- 34:52Speaker 1: they have twelve picks next year. They have twelve picks
- 34:54Speaker 1: next year. That phenomenal trade up. Trade up five, ten,
- 34:59Speaker 1: seven spots with the Chicago Bears and take Cayden McDonald,
- 35:02Speaker 1: the defensive tackle from Ohio State who Mike McDonald would
- 35:06Speaker 1: love to have but will not even I don't think
- 35:09Speaker 1: he'll even get close to the Seahawks that consider. But
- 35:11Speaker 1: the Seahawks see him get in the twenties, and John
- 35:15Speaker 1: Schneider says, you know what, I'll give you a second
- 35:17Speaker 1: round pick in twenty seven for that, and moves up.
- 35:20Speaker 1: I'm about to trade up. Oh wow, that has never happened.
- 35:24Speaker 1: John Schneider has traded fourteen first round picks in sixteen years,
- 35:28Speaker 1: ten trade downs and four involving players never traded up.
- 35:31Speaker 1: That would be a story for a defensive tackle, for
- 35:34Speaker 1: a defensive tackle, a nose tackle at that that would
- 35:39Speaker 1: be yeah right now, we don't think nose tackles. I
- 35:43Speaker 1: have him taken a nose tackle. As I said, the
- 35:44Speaker 1: big hit citrus in the third round. Jared Reid's thirty four.
- 35:48Speaker 1: You're gonna be thirty four years old. Yeah, you got
- 35:50Speaker 1: to think of that. Byron Murphy's going to come in
- 35:52Speaker 1: a big contract. They're probably going to resign him. But
- 35:54Speaker 1: that's a couple that's two years now and guys like
- 35:56Speaker 1: DeMarcus Lawrence at thirty four. It might play be done
- 35:59Speaker 1: this year. Defensive line, they need more depth there for sure.
- 36:02Speaker 1: There are a bunch of practice squad and one year guys.
- 36:04Speaker 1: Beyond those guys.
- 36:05Speaker 2: I'd move up to get DK Metcalf, That's what I would.
- 36:08Speaker 1: I witnessed as soon as you say that. My favorite
- 36:13Speaker 1: having covered this draft since two thousand, my favorite moment
- 36:16Speaker 1: was Hugh Milling almost jumping out of the glass windows
- 36:19Speaker 1: into Lake Washington with excitement when they draft. Alright, so
- 36:23Speaker 1: I never been more passionate about a guy. Well, Ruben Foster.
- 36:28Speaker 1: Ruben Foster's also on my my list of favorite hit
- 36:33Speaker 1: the He was the most violent player I've ever quote
- 36:37Speaker 1: unquote was happier than Seahawk coaches.
- 36:40Speaker 2: When they draft all right, so if they pulled off
- 36:44Speaker 2: a trade up and surprised this all, what's a who's
- 36:47Speaker 2: the guy on this board?
- 36:49Speaker 1: To that is just I haven't even thought of why.
- 36:55Speaker 1: I'll tell you. I'll tell you a guy. I'll tell
- 36:58Speaker 1: you a guy. If they can trade down and get
- 37:01Speaker 1: a few more picks, I'll give you a wild card.
- 37:03Speaker 1: Jimmy Rolder, the linebacker from Michigan. Versatile guy, will linebacker
- 37:10Speaker 1: and you know, kind of a Drake Thomas ish kind
- 37:12Speaker 1: of guy, but but glue guy, special teams. You know,
- 37:16Speaker 1: if don't be don't be shocked if if number thirty
- 37:21Speaker 1: from the Michigan Wolverines comes in. He was Mike McDonald's
- 37:24Speaker 1: first recruity. So that's a wild card. Uh. You know
- 37:28Speaker 1: the guy that in this draft that I just love
- 37:32Speaker 1: watching the tape the most, This dude. Jordan Tyson, the
- 37:36Speaker 1: wide receiver from uh Arizona State. Obviously, yeah, uh I
- 37:42Speaker 1: was I was going the next place. That Tate from
- 37:45Speaker 1: Ohio State. Uh, he's gonna be. He's got the hot
- 37:50Speaker 1: he has a higher floor, and he doesn't have the
- 37:52Speaker 1: injury concerns and he's a very polished Uh you know,
- 37:57Speaker 1: probably number two, Uh, really good number two. Maybe he's
- 38:01Speaker 1: in number one, but but you know, there's I think
- 38:04Speaker 1: there's a cap to his athleticism in that regard. Six
- 38:08Speaker 1: foot two, incredible route running, contested catch, like all of
- 38:15Speaker 1: those attributes are used to describe Jerry right. So like,
- 38:18Speaker 1: you know, I get carnal Tate will likely be the
- 38:21Speaker 1: first guy off. Let me strike that carnal Tate. It's
- 38:25Speaker 1: either carnal Tate or it's going to be uh, this
- 38:28Speaker 1: kid Jordan Tyson. And but Jordan Tyson the body control
- 38:33Speaker 1: and his ability to go up in the air and
- 38:35Speaker 1: his exploit explosion. But the body control, I mean, in
- 38:42Speaker 1: three months he could he could be a gymnast and
- 38:45Speaker 1: do a floor exercise and you know the last vault,
- 38:48Speaker 1: go up, do three flips with two twists and land
- 38:52Speaker 1: it like he has crazy body control for a man
- 38:55Speaker 1: his size, and uh snatches the ball and then boom,
- 38:58Speaker 1: He's just he's just like there's something and then Eli
- 39:02Speaker 1: stores I know is likely to be the first tight end.
- 39:08Speaker 1: But that stores it's like he just has wide receiver
- 39:11Speaker 1: movement period, Like there's no part of his tape that
- 39:14Speaker 1: looks like a tight end. And then you check his
- 39:16Speaker 1: size and you go that's a big dude with like
- 39:18Speaker 1: some serious fluidity to his movements. So any event, I know,
- 39:22Speaker 1: I just outline two uh pass catchers. Trust me, I've
- 39:27Speaker 1: been enamored by by every position across the board, but
- 39:31Speaker 1: just in this draft, those are the guys that got
- 39:34Speaker 1: my attention out for I'm for him to get Brandon
- 39:37Speaker 1: cc cornerback from South Carolina. I think he's a Mike McDonald.
- 39:41Speaker 1: It's like a prototype, just exactly what they want, all right.
- 39:45Speaker 1: You think there's his technique sometimes is kind of like
- 39:49Speaker 1: I think you can economize his movements, but the coaching
- 39:54Speaker 1: can do that and run support and knowledge of the
- 39:57Speaker 1: entire defense.
- 39:58Speaker 2: Yeah, things well great, I was going to get to
- 40:00Speaker 2: show off his pick making ability. He's going to be
- 40:02Speaker 2: in the Green Jacket draft for the first time ever
- 40:05Speaker 2: in our next segment. As for Hugh Millan, of course,
- 40:09Speaker 2: he's at the heart of our coverage tonight of the
- 40:12Speaker 2: NFL drafts. We'll be tuning in at three o'clock. You
- 40:16Speaker 2: get a lot of Hue, a lot of Softy, a
- 40:18Speaker 2: lot of Rob Rang, a lot of Greg Bell. I'm
- 40:20Speaker 2: sure we'll stop by the set and so we do
- 40:24Speaker 2: it like nobody else. I think it's the best draft
- 40:26Speaker 2: coverage out there, so thank you for coming in for
- 40:29Speaker 2: the Roundtable. We appreciate it. Have a blast to be
- 40:31Speaker 2: with you all right, Hugh Miller, Greg Bell twelve Man
- 40:34Speaker 2: round Table Draft Edition comes to a close. Coming up next,
- 40:37Speaker 2: it's time for the Green Jacket Draft Draft