Latest / 360 with Katie Woolf / NT Centre for Disease Control Director Vicki Krause is warning Territorians about meningococcal after the death of a man
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Anti health. He is reporting the death of a male
- 0:02Speaker 1: in his thirties from the Greater Darwin region with menager
- 0:06Speaker 1: cockle disease. Now, he passed away as I understand it,
- 0:09Speaker 1: at the Royal Darwin Hospital and had not traveled into
- 0:12Speaker 1: state or overseas recently. And all those close contacts have
- 0:16Speaker 1: been identified and the Center for Disease Control is providing
- 0:19Speaker 1: information as care and care as it's required. Now joining
- 0:23Speaker 1: me on the line to tell us more about the
- 0:25Speaker 1: situation is doctor Vicky Kraus. Good morning to you. Vicky.
- 0:32Speaker 1: Let me just try that again, Vicki Kraus, Good morning
- 0:35Speaker 1: to you, Vicky.
- 0:36Speaker 2: Oh, good morning.
- 0:38Speaker 1: Now, VICKI. Do we know how the man contracted menager cockle?
- 0:45Speaker 2: No, we don't. If this is a disease that a
- 0:49Speaker 2: very rare disease, in any one year, we might have
- 0:52Speaker 2: between one and three cases, and especially in recent years
- 0:57Speaker 2: when we've been having our mouths covered and been staying
- 1:00Speaker 2: apart from each other lectuer disease throughout the whole country.
- 1:06Speaker 2: But no we don't. And this is sometimes or the
- 1:09Speaker 2: usual occurrence is that it is not related to another case,
- 1:15Speaker 2: and you know occurs, but it is a medical emergency
- 1:19Speaker 2: when it does happen, so people do have to be
- 1:21Speaker 2: aware of it and also have to know that it's
- 1:23Speaker 2: a vaccine preventable disease.
- 1:24Speaker 1: Now, have we had any further cases, obviously, tragically we
- 1:29Speaker 1: have had that death of a man in these thirties.
- 1:32Speaker 1: Have we had any further.
- 1:33Speaker 2: Cases not since that case, but we did have one
- 1:39Speaker 2: case earlier in the year, back towards the beginning of
- 1:42Speaker 2: the year, and that was actually in the Alice Springs area,
- 1:44Speaker 2: so it was not a linked case.
- 1:46Speaker 1: All right, So not linked. Who is the most vulnerable
- 1:49Speaker 1: when it comes to this disease vicky.
- 1:53Speaker 2: So it's basically three groups. With a group we're most
- 1:57Speaker 2: concerned about or about is those under five, and then
- 2:02Speaker 2: it's teenagers, so it's those like fourteen to nineteen or
- 2:07Speaker 2: even up into the twenty four year olds, so that
- 2:09Speaker 2: young adult the teen young adult age group. And then
- 2:14Speaker 2: at the other end of life towards you know, the
- 2:17Speaker 2: seventies and over also are more at risk. So those
- 2:20Speaker 2: are the main age groups that are at risk. And
- 2:24Speaker 2: as I've said, this is a vaccine preventable disease, so
- 2:27Speaker 2: that's really where the action and has to take place,
- 2:32Speaker 2: because when it does occur it often progresses very rapidly
- 2:38Speaker 2: and can even within twenty four hours, which is similar
- 2:41Speaker 2: to many cases that someone can present and actually be
- 2:45Speaker 2: in extremists within a twenty four hour period. So really
- 2:50Speaker 2: looking certainly for early signs or symptoms of the disease,
- 2:53Speaker 2: but the best prevention is really vaccination.
- 2:57Speaker 1: What are those early signs and symptoms, because you know,
- 3:00Speaker 1: I know that's myself as a parent, I think, well,
- 3:03Speaker 1: I want to make sure that if there is something
- 3:05Speaker 1: that I need to be looking out for, I'm aware
- 3:07Speaker 1: of what it is.
- 3:09Speaker 2: Correct. Yeah, And basically meninga cockle disease presents in two ways.
- 3:15Speaker 2: It can present as sepsis or like a blood poisoning,
- 3:18Speaker 2: or as a meningitis. And so in a sense, unfortunately
- 3:23Speaker 2: the symptoms are somewhat vague but need to be paid
- 3:29Speaker 2: attention to. And those are of fever. If you're having meningitis,
- 3:34Speaker 2: it will be a stiff neck, a bad headache, you
- 3:37Speaker 2: don't like to look at lights. You might have vomiting.
- 3:41Speaker 2: And there's a very characteristic rash that goes with this,
- 3:44Speaker 2: and that's a rash of it's like tiny red and
- 3:46Speaker 2: purple spots because they like little bleeds or it can
- 3:49Speaker 2: be larger bruises and certainly any indication of that type
- 3:54Speaker 2: of rash is really important to seek medical attention and
- 3:59Speaker 2: treated as a medical emergency.
- 4:01Speaker 1: And vicky, is that is that sort of the telltale
- 4:03Speaker 1: sign when it comes to meningingecollcle?
- 4:05Speaker 2: Is it that rash that? But yes, but if you
- 4:09Speaker 2: have a period of you know, bad headache, fever, stiff neck,
- 4:14Speaker 2: not wanting to get lights, that's an indication of meningitis
- 4:17Speaker 2: and and people should be seeking medical attention. And with
- 4:21Speaker 2: children it's often difficult. They'll have, you know, just not
- 4:27Speaker 2: be wanting to do their usual feeds, and they might
- 4:30Speaker 2: have vomiting and be more irusable than usual and also
- 4:34Speaker 2: turning away from light and sound. So these are things
- 4:38Speaker 2: slightly different in the younger age group or in young
- 4:40Speaker 2: babies that need to be uh looked into and and
- 4:44Speaker 2: to pay attention to to see that you know, whether
- 4:48Speaker 2: they're and then to look for a rash as well.
- 4:50Speaker 2: But also just those type of presenting symptoms would be
- 4:54Speaker 2: to call you doctor or go to a NED.
- 4:56Speaker 1: So that is that's the advice as well, that if
- 4:59Speaker 1: if you are the situation where where somebody has got
- 5:02Speaker 1: all of those symptoms either go to GP or go
- 5:05Speaker 1: to emergency.
- 5:07Speaker 2: Yes, that's right, especially in the young children there. But
- 5:10Speaker 2: again I think we want to get onto the vaccinating
- 5:13Speaker 2: because this is a very good There are very good
- 5:16Speaker 2: vaccines for the types. There are five types of Mininger
- 5:20Speaker 2: cockle Mininger coccus it's sometimes called the Meninja cockle bacteria
- 5:25Speaker 2: that caused this condition, and we have vaccines against five
- 5:30Speaker 2: of them, so that's really very good in the five
- 5:33Speaker 2: most commonly presenting. And so babies get their vaccine at
- 5:39Speaker 2: one year of age. For acw Y and Aborginal children
- 5:44Speaker 2: under two get a vaccine three vaccines under two, but
- 5:48Speaker 2: it is recommended for all children under two and that
- 5:51Speaker 2: can be asked for and talk two to your vaccine providers.
- 5:57Speaker 2: And then when children are as a man that adolescent
- 6:00Speaker 2: age fourteen to nineteen, so they're offered the ACWY vaccine
- 6:07Speaker 2: through the school programs at fourteen and if they haven't
- 6:10Speaker 2: had it at fifteen to nineteen as well. So it
- 6:14Speaker 2: is a very safe and very effective vaccine. Way back
- 6:18Speaker 2: in two thousand and three, when the first vaccine of
- 6:21Speaker 2: Mininger cockle see came into the schedule, it was given
- 6:28Speaker 2: out at a young age and within by. You know,
- 6:32Speaker 2: five years ago there was a ninety four ninety five
- 6:35Speaker 2: percent reduction and we basically don't seem in ninjacocle see anymore.
- 6:38Speaker 2: And now as in the end of the twenty seventeen
- 6:42Speaker 2: twenty eighteen, we rolled out the ACWY vaccine and now
- 6:47Speaker 2: those numbers in those tereotypes groups are reducing, So that's
- 6:53Speaker 2: a very good story.
- 6:54Speaker 1: Also, do we know what strain of manager concle the
- 6:58Speaker 1: thirty year old had, who do way?
- 7:02Speaker 2: Yes, we do know that it was meningjbe and that
- 7:04Speaker 2: is the type that we are seeing most in the
- 7:08Speaker 2: country and now most in the anti as we've had
- 7:13Speaker 2: vaccines for the other types over the years.
- 7:17Speaker 1: And so with the meninger cockle bee. Am I right
- 7:20Speaker 1: that there was that there is a trial that's happening
- 7:22Speaker 1: with meninger cockle bee, but it's not actually covered, is it.
- 7:25Speaker 1: If you are somebody who want to take your kids
- 7:27Speaker 1: to get vaccinated, it is something that you're going to
- 7:30Speaker 1: have to pay in full? Is that correct?
- 7:33Speaker 2: That's correct as I said for that, And you do
- 7:38Speaker 2: mention that there's a trial going on, and this is
- 7:40Speaker 2: a trial that's been that was started last year and
- 7:44Speaker 2: it's for teenagers fourteen to nineteen years old. And while
- 7:49Speaker 2: we know that meninger cockle vaccine works for Niceria meningitis,
- 7:55Speaker 2: which is the bacteria that causes meningitis, it's off. So
- 8:00Speaker 2: there's another bacteria called Nyria Gunneria, which causes gunerrea. And
- 8:08Speaker 2: there's this trial going on to see the effect of
- 8:11Speaker 2: the MENINGERCOCKLEB vaccine both on meningitis and on guner reea.
- 8:17Speaker 2: And it's being offered in the anti school from age
- 8:23Speaker 2: fourteen to age nineteen. So people and parents have been
- 8:26Speaker 2: sent information about that and the students as well, And
- 8:30Speaker 2: so I would encourage people to look at that that
- 8:33Speaker 2: is one way of getting the vaccine out in that
- 8:37Speaker 2: age group, So the fourteen to nineteen.
- 8:39Speaker 1: Yeah, and look, I know again, I know there'll be
- 8:42Speaker 1: plenty of parents of little kids listening this morning thinking,
- 8:46Speaker 1: you know, why is the manager cockle bee not also
- 8:50Speaker 1: one that they're able to take the kids to get,
- 8:53Speaker 1: you know, as part of I guess as part of
- 8:55Speaker 1: those free vaccines. That's obviously a decision that needs to
- 8:57Speaker 1: be made on a federal scale, isn't it.
- 9:00Speaker 2: It is as part of the National Immunization Program. And
- 9:04Speaker 2: what is federally funded. So again it's a very rare disease,
- 9:08Speaker 2: as I said, maybe one to two to three cases
- 9:13Speaker 2: a year in the NT and so it's but it
- 9:17Speaker 2: is something that you know, people are looking at and
- 9:20Speaker 2: weighing up and exactly this is always on the agenda
- 9:24Speaker 2: and being analyzed.
- 9:27Speaker 1: Yeah, well, we really appreciate your time this morning, doctor
- 9:30Speaker 1: Vicki Krass. If there is anybody out there listening this
- 9:32Speaker 1: morning who is thinking, you know, they do want to
- 9:34Speaker 1: get their family member vaccinated against manager Cocklebee, or if
- 9:39Speaker 1: they're concerned that maybe those vaccines aren't up to date,
- 9:43Speaker 1: where's the best sort of place that they can follow
- 9:45Speaker 1: that up?
- 9:46Speaker 2: Do you think well they should just they should talk
- 9:49Speaker 2: to their vaccine provider, be that a local GP or
- 9:54Speaker 2: their clinical service there that attends and it might be remote,
- 9:59Speaker 2: but they will be able to direct them how they
- 10:01Speaker 2: can get that vaccine.
- 10:02Speaker 1: Well, I really appreciate your time this morning, doctor Vicki
- 10:05Speaker 1: Krast