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Saved as Draft Episode 31.5: Clenchport Takeover! · Saved as Draft

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  SPEAKER_03: Hey guys, Troll Slayer here.
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  SPEAKER_03: So, as you may have heard, Bradley is out of town this week on vacation.
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  SPEAKER_03: Must be nice.
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  SPEAKER_03: Anyway,
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  SPEAKER_03: since he's not here to record a podcast episode,
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  SPEAKER_03: we're going to use the space for a little podcasting of our own.
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  SPEAKER_02: Honey, whose house is this?
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  SPEAKER_02: Are we breaking and entering?
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  SPEAKER_03: No, Mom!
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  SPEAKER_03: I told Bradley we'd be here, so technically it's just entering.
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  SPEAKER_03: Okay, well, now I guess it is breaking and entering.
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  SPEAKER_02: Trollslayer,
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  rule 104 of the Smart Shopper Handbook in conjunction with
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  Clenchport Fire Code
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  SPEAKER_02: states that a room of this size may only hold up to five people.
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  SPEAKER_03: Why are you quoting the Smart Shopper Handbook, Jeb?
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  SPEAKER_03: We're not even in Clenchport.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, that's my son.
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  SPEAKER_03: Always thinking about safety, just like his dad.
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  Ironic that the doomsday prepper who sells fire arms and
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  explosives out of his
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  SPEAKER_03: truck is the one lecturing us about safety.
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  SPEAKER_03: Master, why does it smell like feet in here?
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  SPEAKER_03: I'll tell you when you're older, Toby.
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  SPEAKER_03: Hey, Troll Slayer, can we get this show on the road?
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  SPEAKER_03: Fine.
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  SPEAKER_03: Anyway,
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  SPEAKER_03: these other people are from Clenchport 2,
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  SPEAKER_03: and we're taking over the Saved as Draft podcast.
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  SPEAKER_03: So get comfortable, because it's about to get weird.
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  Hello,
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  everyone,
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  and welcome to episode 31.5 of the Save to Straft podcast.
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  SPEAKER_03: This is Pass Bradley speaking.
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  I'm recording this before I go on a real,
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  genuine vacation for the first time in years.
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  SPEAKER_03: Since I'll be out of town this week,
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  SPEAKER_03: I decided to do a mini episode of the podcast here,
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  SPEAKER_03: so this will be more compact than what you're used to,
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  SPEAKER_03: but it should be pretty fun all the same.
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  SPEAKER_03: So,
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  SPEAKER_03: as many of you know,
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  SPEAKER_03: I'm working on an animated series alongside my friend of over 20 years,
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  SPEAKER_03: James Nethery,
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  SPEAKER_03: who is a professional animator himself.
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  SPEAKER_03: We've also got a team of over 15 people working with us,
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  SPEAKER_03: including artists,
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  SPEAKER_03: animators,
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  SPEAKER_03: and voice actors.
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  SPEAKER_03: Our upcoming series is a combination of horror and comedy,
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  SPEAKER_03: and it's called The Chronicles of Clenchport.
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  SPEAKER_03: It's set in a fictional town located in southwest Virginia,
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  and it follows the exploits of several characters from various
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  walks of life,
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  SPEAKER_03: several of whom you met in this week's intro.
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  Clinchport is also going to be a transmedia universe,
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  so it will exist across different mediums.
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  You may have noticed that I have a section of my short stories
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  in my content
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  SPEAKER_03: directory related to the series.
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  SPEAKER_03: These stories are indeed set in the same universe as the upcoming show,
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  SPEAKER_03: which is in turn set within my larger horror mythos,
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  SPEAKER_03: The Synaptic Sprawl.
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  SPEAKER_03: But more on that soon.
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  SPEAKER_03: Beyond the animated series and the short stories I've done,
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  SPEAKER_03: Clenchport will be getting its own podcast soon as well.
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  The Many Worlds of Clenchport will be a narrative show with an
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  ongoing story that
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  discusses the history of the town and taps into found audio
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  from parallel versions
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  SPEAKER_03: of it as well.
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  SPEAKER_03: My recent post,
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  SPEAKER_03: titled Tape 47,
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  SPEAKER_03: acts as a teaser for the upcoming podcast,
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  SPEAKER_03: so if you have yet to check it out,
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  SPEAKER_03: please do and let me know what you think.
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  SPEAKER_03: Okay,
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  SPEAKER_03: and with all that context out of the way,
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  today's special mini-episode of the Saved as Draft podcast will
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  include a few funny
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  SPEAKER_03: segues pulled from the upcoming narrative podcast,
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  as well as a panel discussion between myself and James Nethery
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  as we talk about the
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  SPEAKER_03: history of the series,
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  SPEAKER_03: where things are at now,
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  SPEAKER_03: and what's on the horizon.
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  SPEAKER_03: If you're a fan of my work,
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  or if you've enjoyed some of the Clinchport stories that I've
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  shared thus far,
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  SPEAKER_03: this is one episode that you won't want to miss.
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  SPEAKER_03: Stay tuned for the panel discussion next,
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  SPEAKER_03: right after this message from a local Clinchport favorite,
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  SPEAKER_03: the Burger Lord.
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  SPEAKER_01: Warriors,
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  SPEAKER_01: sons and daughters of the kingdom,
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  SPEAKER_01: as your queen,
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  SPEAKER_01: I will not stand by while you ride into battle alone.
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  SPEAKER_01: Together, we shall... We shall ride into battle and... Oh dear!
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  SPEAKER_03: Don't ride into battle hungry.
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  SPEAKER_03: Take your fellow warriors to lunch at the Burger Lord.
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  SPEAKER_03: Come try the new Excaliburger.
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  SPEAKER_03: Find out if you're worthy enough to pull the sword from the bun.
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  SPEAKER_03: All right, and we are back.
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  SPEAKER_03: And thank you to the Burger Lord for sponsoring this episode.
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  SPEAKER_03: They are a very popular restaurant in Clenchport.
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  SPEAKER_03: Next up,
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  we have a panel discussion with myself and co-creator of the
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  Chronicles of
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  SPEAKER_03: Clenchport series,
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  SPEAKER_03: James Nethery.
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  SPEAKER_03: All right, everybody.
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  SPEAKER_03: And for this week's episode,
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  SPEAKER_03: a mini episode of the Saved as Draft podcast,
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  SPEAKER_03: as I mentioned in the introduction,
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  we're going to have a panel discussion here between myself and
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  the co-creator of
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  SPEAKER_03: the Chronicles of Clenchport and
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  SPEAKER_03: which is our upcoming animated horror comedy series.
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  And so I have with me today my friend of over 20 years and
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  professional animator
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  SPEAKER_03: who has been on the show before but is now returning,
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  SPEAKER_03: Mr.
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  SPEAKER_03: James Nethery.
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  SPEAKER_03: James, thank you for being here.
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  SPEAKER_03: Hello.
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  SPEAKER_03: Good to be here.
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  so let's start off with our discussion here i wanted to talk a
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  little bit about how
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  you know have us kind of introduce ourselves and then talk
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  about how we met so
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  obviously everybody knows me but for the sake of people who may
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  not have heard your
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  episode of the podcast way back when that you were on uh let's
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  have you tell us
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  just a little bit about yourself yeah of course uh my name is
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  james uh nethery i'm
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  a uh animator i live in atlanta georgia right now i'm actually
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  from orlando which
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  SPEAKER_02: is where i met bradley
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  SPEAKER_02: I kind of started my animation career down there.
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  SPEAKER_02: I started kind of as a hobby doing stuff with Bradley,
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  SPEAKER_02: actually doing cartoons way back in the day.
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  SPEAKER_02: Started when we were probably like 15 or 16 doing stuff, high school.
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  SPEAKER_02: Then, yeah, I think shortly, like 2015, I moved up to Atlanta.
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  SPEAKER_02: I'd been doing some freelance in Orlando.
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  SPEAKER_02: Moved up to Atlanta to work on Archer and a bunch of other shows.
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  SPEAKER_02: And I've been there ever since.
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  SPEAKER_02: And I'm really excited to get Clunchport off the ground.
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  SPEAKER_03: Awesome.
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  SPEAKER_03: Awesome.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: As James mentioned, he and I met back when we were 15, I think, or so.
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  And I've told this story before,
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  but we were both volunteers at the Orlando Science Center.
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  SPEAKER_02: Orlando Science Center.
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  yeah yep and um yeah as soon as i found out you were an
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  animator and as soon as you
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  found out i was a writer we basically immediately jumped into
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  projects together if
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  i recall correctly uh yeah absolutely we we got a couple we we
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  did like a really a
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  couple like really early ones right i didn't know what the hell
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  i was doing like on
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  the animation side yeah but we we recorded like on this old
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  like tape recorder
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  SPEAKER_02: first yep
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  SPEAKER_02: And then we recorded on a, like a, like a video camera.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: Like I,
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  SPEAKER_02: I,
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  I definitely remember us doing a recording session and I just
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  open up the footage
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  SPEAKER_02: and it's just like our mouths and noses.
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  SPEAKER_02: It's like filming up our noses.
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  SPEAKER_02: Right.
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  SPEAKER_02: Right.
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  and we're doing this at the science center too so it's like
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  under this we went like
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  under the stair under the stairway i think over in like the
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  clubhouse right and
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  every time someone would come down the stairs we would just
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  like oh we better hide
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  SPEAKER_03: this will take a while to explain yeah
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  SPEAKER_03: So, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: So speaking of those early years,
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  I wanted to talk a little bit about how our projects and our
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  work have evolved over
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  SPEAKER_03: the years.
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  Obviously,
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  a lot of it is not publicly on YouTube right now,
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  just because it's old.
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  SPEAKER_03: And,
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  SPEAKER_03: you know,
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  we want to obviously have the most up-to-date representation of
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  your skills,
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  SPEAKER_03: my skills,
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  SPEAKER_03: so on and so forth.
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  SPEAKER_03: But we have done a lot of projects over the years.
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  SPEAKER_03: And so I wanted to talk about,
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  SPEAKER_03: you know,
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  SPEAKER_03: for example,
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  SPEAKER_03: back in the day,
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  SPEAKER_03: we had this character who started out as Claymation.
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  SPEAKER_03: And he was, his name was Lucky Bob.
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  SPEAKER_03: He was your creation.
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  right exactly and so i remember one of our first big projects
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  was lucky bob's time
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  machine which was a movie machine yeah a movie that i wrote and
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  if i'm not mistaken
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  it was about 30 minutes of animation when it was all something
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  like that the second
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  one was longer actually i think the first one was 20 the second
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  one was 30 okay
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  that's crazy to think about but i mean back then we had nothing
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  but free time yeah
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  basically yeah i kind of like skimped on a lot of my school
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  work to get a lot of
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  that done but yeah were you the only person animating it i
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  think you were yeah i i
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  think you actually animated a couple shots that's true i did
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  yes yeah yeah yeah
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  like just very basic stuff but yeah we were we were using moho
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  at the time which is
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  actually still around and still being used that's so it was
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  pretty intuitive
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  SPEAKER_03: software from what i remember
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  SPEAKER_02: It's very, it's gotten even better too over the years.
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  SPEAKER_02: I'm actually really interested to play around with it some more.
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  And so another early project that we did was our attempt at
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  doing something quote
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  SPEAKER_03: unquote serious.
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  SPEAKER_03: And that was Death From Above, which I'm sure you remember.
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  SPEAKER_02: Death From Above.
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  SPEAKER_02: I love that.
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  SPEAKER_02: It's like, you're not my son.
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  SPEAKER_03: So the concept with that one,
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  SPEAKER_03: and I'm reaching back here into my memories,
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  SPEAKER_03: but the concept of that one was,
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  SPEAKER_03: it was inspired by the movie Reign of Fire,
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  SPEAKER_03: specifically the opening scene,
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  SPEAKER_03: where construction workers end up discovering a dragon nest,
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  SPEAKER_03: I think,
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  SPEAKER_03: underground or something.
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  SPEAKER_03: And so at the beginning of Death From Above,
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  SPEAKER_03: construction workers uncover this nest of eggs,
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  SPEAKER_03: and it's these weird,
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  SPEAKER_03: I mean,
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  SPEAKER_03: I have to be honest,
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  SPEAKER_03: from what I recall,
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  SPEAKER_03: the creature design was pretty cool.
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  SPEAKER_03: It was almost like a xenomorph.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: And yeah, so anyway, they end up unleashing these creatures.
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  And so the twist was that they're weak to electricity,
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  I think is what it was.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_03: And yeah,
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  there's a scene that's supposed to be super serious and like
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  heart wrenching where
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  SPEAKER_03: because like,
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  SPEAKER_03: if I recall correctly,
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  the creatures could give off spores that would infect you and
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  turn you into one of
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  SPEAKER_03: them.
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  yeah um and and so there's a scene where the main character
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  jack his son uh gets
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  infected and and so he has to kill his own son and he says the
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  classic line you're
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  not my son or whatever but i mean i you know it was it was
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  cheesy it was very
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  SPEAKER_03: cheesy but it was a good movie
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  i i remember him throwing a hair dryer in that wasn't plugged
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  in to the bath yeah
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  the idea was that he was he had the monster trapped in a
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  bathtub and he was trying
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  to electrocute it and so he was threw a hair dryer in there but
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  yeah it wasn't even
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  SPEAKER_03: plugged in so yeah plot hole
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  from a from a movie that came out you know and that like 10
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  people saw um so yeah
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  so we we have some classic projects um but i love talking about
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  them because they
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  were so ambitious for the time um yeah and so fast forward a
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  little bit here in
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  2012 we uh we we we created a character called troll slayers
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  let me let me let me
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  pause for a second there and i want i want to get your input on
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  this what is your
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  SPEAKER_03: memory of what inspired troll slayer how did that character come about
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  I remember watching a video online of just this kid raging in
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  his driveway with
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  SPEAKER_02: like a video camera.
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  He's like just screaming into the video camera and like ranting
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  about all kinds of
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  SPEAKER_02: stuff like movies and like life in general.
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  SPEAKER_02: I was like, huh, that's actually really kind of funny.
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  SPEAKER_02: It would be really funny to do like kind of a parody of that.
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  SPEAKER_02: So that was kind of my pitch to Bradley as like,
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  SPEAKER_02: I just came over one day and said,
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  SPEAKER_02: Hey,
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  SPEAKER_02: we want to do this troll slayer thing.
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  SPEAKER_02: Why don't you just improv a bunch of shit?
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  SPEAKER_02: You know?
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  SPEAKER_03: Right.
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  SPEAKER_02: Exactly.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: I,
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  SPEAKER_03: I,
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  I remember you pitching me that and we called him troll slayer
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  if I'm not mistaken,
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  SPEAKER_03: because the initial concept was that he was,
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  he was supposed to be someone who takes out or slays trolls on
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  the internet.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_03: But he, but, but the ironic nature of it is that he himself is a troll.
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  yeah exactly right so yeah and so that's how that character
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  started and i remember
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  when we first started doing that we would record i would record
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  um the the audio
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  for it and it would just be improv like we would pick a topic
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  yeah and i would just
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  SPEAKER_03: start like ranting about it as his character
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it's really funny.
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  SPEAKER_02: I still have a lot of that old audio.
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  SPEAKER_02: It's hilarious.
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  Yeah,
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  one of these days,
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  maybe we should just pull the audio,
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  if anything.
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  SPEAKER_03: We should.
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  SPEAKER_03: And feature on the podcast.
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  SPEAKER_03: Hey,
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  SPEAKER_03: if anyone listening,
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  if you want to hear those classic Troll Slayer rants that I did
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  when I was much
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  SPEAKER_03: younger,
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  SPEAKER_03: let me know in the comments.
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  SPEAKER_03: If I get enough demand for it, I will feature on the show.
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  SPEAKER_03: So, all right, James.
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  SPEAKER_03: So, yeah, that's how Troll Slayer got started.
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  SPEAKER_03: That was back in 2012, which, yeah, that makes me feel old.
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  SPEAKER_02: I know.
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  And so Troll Slayer obviously is a big character in the
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  Clenchport series,
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  SPEAKER_03: but another big character in the Clenchport series is Dr.
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  SPEAKER_03: Henry Armitage.
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  Dr.
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  Armitage is actually a character,
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  or the name is at least,
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  a character from Lovecraft.
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  SPEAKER_03: And so because Lovecraft is public domain,
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  we're kind of paying homage to him since the horror aspects of
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  the animated series
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  SPEAKER_03: are indeed Lovecraftian or cosmic horror.
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  SPEAKER_03: So,
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  SPEAKER_03: James,
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  SPEAKER_03: why don't you tell the story here,
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  SPEAKER_03: or at least your version of it,
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  SPEAKER_03: the story about how we first came up with this evil doctor character,
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  SPEAKER_03: which was a really funny kind of coincidence sort of moment,
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  SPEAKER_03: if you recall.
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  SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: Didn't you see, like, a store or something like that, like a shop?
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  SPEAKER_02: Oh, I can't even remember the full story.
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  SPEAKER_02: Something doctor, but you thought it said evil doctor?
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  SPEAKER_03: Right, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: So it was in, like, a strip mall type area.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: It said the sign across the parking lot said eye doctor,
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  SPEAKER_03: but the lighting in the sign was like partially out.
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  SPEAKER_03: So from far away,
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  SPEAKER_03: this is before I got my glasses,
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  SPEAKER_03: obviously,
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  SPEAKER_03: but from far away,
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  SPEAKER_03: I thought it said evil doctor and we had a whole laugh about it.
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  I was like,
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  wouldn't that be hilarious if it was like an evil doctor that
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  owned like a shop?
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: And so that's how we came up with Doctor.
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  SPEAKER_03: That character would eventually become Doctor Armitage in the series.
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  And part of his character is obviously the fact that he he has
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  a secret store where
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  SPEAKER_03: he caters to,
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  SPEAKER_03: quote unquote,
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  SPEAKER_03: the scum of the multiverse or the villains of the multiverse,
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  SPEAKER_03: where he sells all kinds of esoteric artifacts and dangerous,
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  SPEAKER_03: you know,
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  SPEAKER_03: cursed objects and all that kind of good stuff.
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  SPEAKER_03: And so in the Clenchport series,
• 13:42
  SPEAKER_03: his store is called Dr.
• 13:44
  SPEAKER_03: Armitage's Emporium of Esoteric Oddities.
• 13:47
  SPEAKER_03: And so his store exists underground,
• 13:50
  SPEAKER_03: hiding beneath a standard convenience store,
• 13:54
  SPEAKER_03: which looks normal above ground.
• 13:56
  SPEAKER_03: And that, of course, is the smart shopper in Clenchport.
• 13:59
  SPEAKER_03: So that's one of my characters.
• 14:02
  SPEAKER_03: So why don't we switch over, James?
• 14:03
  I'd love to have you talk about one of the characters that you
• 14:05
  voice in the
• 14:06
  SPEAKER_03: Chronicles of Lunchport series.
• 14:08
  So a big one that you do is actually a character who works at
• 14:11
  the Smart Shopper.
• 14:12
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 14:13
  SPEAKER_03: And his name is Jeb or Jebediah.
• 14:17
  SPEAKER_03: And his last name is Ashland.
• 14:18
  SPEAKER_03: So James, tell us about Jeb.
• 14:20
  SPEAKER_02: Okay,
• 14:20
  SPEAKER_02: so Jeb originated as a character in our series called Average Joe,
• 14:27
  SPEAKER_02: where Joe goes to work at,
• 14:28
  SPEAKER_02: like,
• 14:28
  SPEAKER_02: it's the same kind of sonic concept.
• 14:30
  SPEAKER_02: He goes to work at, like, kind of a gas station type of thing.
• 14:34
  SPEAKER_02: And originally, Jeb was called Snitchy.
• 14:36
  SPEAKER_02: He was called Snitchy McSuckup.
• 14:39
  SPEAKER_02: And he was based on this manager that I had at one of my jobs.
• 14:45
  SPEAKER_02: And he was talking like this nasally voice like this.
• 14:49
  SPEAKER_02: And he was very into rules.
• 14:51
  SPEAKER_02: And I just thought, that guy is a freaking cartoon character.
• 14:57
  SPEAKER_02: So I kind of designed him a little bit based on that guy.
• 15:01
  SPEAKER_02: And his voice is definitely based on him.
• 15:05
  SPEAKER_02: And yeah, so it's like you kind of pull from real life.
• 15:09
  SPEAKER_02: And there was another character I think that you voiced.
• 15:11
  SPEAKER_02: So I kind of want to bring back the, the kind of the twitchy manager guy.
• 15:15
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, you know, he goes like, Hey.
• 15:18
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 15:19
  SPEAKER_03: I remember him.
• 15:20
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 15:20
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 15:21
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 15:22
  you're not smiling that kind of thing yeah he was he was like a
• 15:28
  more extreme
• 15:29
  version of jeb's character in chronicles yeah maybe i will
• 15:32
  bring him back at some
• 15:32
  point yeah but yeah it was all based on on people i used to
• 15:37
  work at a theme park
• 15:38
  and of course the rule was you always smile and you they had
• 15:42
  like this rule book
• 15:43
  like 50 pages long which is where like the clench port the rule
• 15:46
  book comes from
• 15:48
  SPEAKER_02: And you would have employees who have been there for 30 years,
• 15:51
  SPEAKER_02: but are in the same position that they've always been in,
• 15:54
  SPEAKER_02: making the same wage.
• 15:56
  SPEAKER_02: But it's like, this is their career.
• 15:57
  SPEAKER_02: They're stuck there.
• 15:59
  SPEAKER_02: They want to move up, but they never can because of all the backstabbing.
• 16:04
  SPEAKER_03: Right, of course.
• 16:05
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 16:07
  SPEAKER_03: Okay.
• 16:07
  SPEAKER_03: Well, thank you, James.
• 16:08
  SPEAKER_03: I appreciate that.
• 16:09
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, of course.
• 16:09
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 16:10
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah,
• 16:10
  so Troll Slayer and Jeb are both main characters in the
• 16:12
  Chronicles of Clenchport
• 16:13
  SPEAKER_03: series,
• 16:13
  SPEAKER_03: of course.
• 16:14
  SPEAKER_03: And then we have a few others that you've heard.
• 16:16
  SPEAKER_03: You've probably heard about them in some of my short stories.
• 16:19
  SPEAKER_03: And then,
• 16:19
  SPEAKER_03: of course,
• 16:21
  SPEAKER_03: the opening skit at the beginning of this podcast episode,
• 16:23
  SPEAKER_03: we had a few of them as well.
• 16:24
  SPEAKER_03: But I don't want to spoil all of them just yet.
• 16:27
  SPEAKER_03: So we'll stop there and move on to our next topic here.
• 16:29
  SPEAKER_03: For sure.
• 16:30
  SPEAKER_03: The next thing I wanted to talk about is how Clenchport is...
• 16:34
  SPEAKER_03: We have plans to make it a transmedia universe,
• 16:36
  SPEAKER_03: meaning that it will have...
• 16:38
  SPEAKER_03: It will exist as both an animated series as well as a narrative podcast.
• 16:42
  SPEAKER_03: And then also it already exists in a variety of my short stories.
• 16:46
  And so all of these stories and Clenchport itself exists within
• 16:50
  a even wider
• 16:51
  SPEAKER_03: universe that I've been building on Substack.
• 16:54
  And obviously the origins of this universe go all the way back
• 16:57
  to,
• 16:57
  I think,
• 16:58
  2012.
• 16:59
  SPEAKER_03: And these days I refer to it as the Synaptic Sprawl.
• 17:02
  The Synaptic Sprawl is obviously a horror multiverse,
• 17:06
  is how I describe it.
• 17:07
  SPEAKER_03: And
• 17:08
  It is basically a ton of parallel universes that exist within
• 17:11
  the mind of an
• 17:11
  SPEAKER_03: eldritch terror called the dreamer.
• 17:15
  And so a lot of my horror stories take place in these various
• 17:17
  parallel universes.
• 17:18
  And so the way that the synaptic sprawl works as a multiverse
• 17:22
  is that you can only
• 17:22
  SPEAKER_03: enter or exit it from what are called nexus points.
• 17:26
  And nexus points are places where every single variation of a
• 17:30
  universe exists on
• 17:31
  SPEAKER_03: top or below each other.
• 17:34
  SPEAKER_03: So it's basically very concentrated, right?
• 17:37
  SPEAKER_03: It's like an entry point, like I said, or an exit point.
• 17:38
  SPEAKER_03: And so a lot of energy flows through there.
• 17:41
  SPEAKER_03: And so I say all that because Clenchport itself,
• 17:43
  SPEAKER_03: as part of this broader universe,
• 17:45
  SPEAKER_03: the town of Clenchport is indeed a nexus.
• 17:48
  SPEAKER_03: And so as a result of that,
• 17:49
  it's a very strange place where different parallel universes
• 17:52
  kind of bleed in and
• 17:52
  SPEAKER_03: out of each other.
• 17:53
  And a lot of weird things happen because you have so much
• 17:56
  energy and beings as well
• 17:58
  SPEAKER_03: entering and exiting this brawl.
• 18:00
  SPEAKER_03: So,
• 18:01
  SPEAKER_03: James,
• 18:01
  what I wanted to talk about is the beginning of this entire
• 18:05
  concept of mine,
• 18:06
  SPEAKER_03: you know,
• 18:07
  SPEAKER_03: well before we created Clenchport,
• 18:09
  it went back to a horror story that I wrote years and years and
• 18:11
  years ago called
• 18:12
  SPEAKER_03: Insanity's Embrace.
• 18:14
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, yeah.
• 18:15
  And if I'm not mistaken,
• 18:16
  you were there when I read it live in front of a small group of
• 18:20
  people.
• 18:20
  SPEAKER_03: Weren't you there that night?
• 18:21
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it was a freaking hit, man.
• 18:23
  SPEAKER_02: It was great.
• 18:25
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I remember you getting applause after you reading that.
• 18:30
  SPEAKER_02: No, it was great.
• 18:31
  SPEAKER_03: Is that still available like anywhere online?
• 18:35
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, so yeah, I can talk about that for a second.
• 18:37
  So I worked with a small publisher a while back and there's a
• 18:40
  few e-books of mine
• 18:42
  SPEAKER_03: that I wrote on Amazon.
• 18:43
  SPEAKER_03: And unfortunately,
• 18:44
  SPEAKER_03: because of the relationship that I have with the publisher,
• 18:46
  SPEAKER_03: they were a little rushed and the cover art wasn't exactly what I wanted.
• 18:50
  SPEAKER_03: So I don't actively promote them,
• 18:53
  SPEAKER_03: but I did sell them the rights to that Insanity's Embrace story.
• 18:56
  SPEAKER_03: So that's the only way to access it if you wanted to purchase it.
• 19:00
  I've since written similar stories and honestly better stories
• 19:06
  on Substack here,
• 19:07
  SPEAKER_03: which also exists within that universe.
• 19:08
  SPEAKER_03: So that's a great question.
• 19:09
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah,
• 19:10
  so I'm really excited about the fact that Clinchport exists
• 19:12
  within this horror
• 19:13
  SPEAKER_03: mythos because there's a lot of exciting stuff we can do with it.
• 19:15
  SPEAKER_03: And
• 19:17
  A part of that is that my horror mythos is in the actual kind
• 19:22
  of universe.
• 19:23
  There exists a wall around the edge of the multiverse beyond
• 19:27
  which lies what's
• 19:28
  SPEAKER_03: called the abyssal prison.
• 19:30
  The guardians of that prison are known as wardens and they are
• 19:34
  reincarnated people
• 19:35
  SPEAKER_03: from across history.
• 19:36
  who have been brought back to life and made immortal so that
• 19:39
  they can stand guard
• 19:40
  and essentially defend all of the multiverse from these
• 19:44
  eldritch monstrosities that
• 19:45
  SPEAKER_03: exist beyond that wall.
• 19:46
  And so the reason I bring that up is because the Wardens are
• 19:49
  big reoccurring
• 19:50
  SPEAKER_03: characters in a lot of my horror stories.
• 19:52
  SPEAKER_03: Absolutely.
• 19:53
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 19:53
  SPEAKER_03: And one of them, as you know, James, is Agent Michael Durwood.
• 19:56
  SPEAKER_03: Agent Durwood.
• 19:57
  SPEAKER_03: Yep.
• 19:57
  SPEAKER_03: Uh-huh.
• 19:58
  And so Derwood is going to be a big character in Chronicles of
• 20:01
  Clinchport as well.
• 20:02
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 20:02
  SPEAKER_02: I think he's going to show up at the very end of the pilot.
• 20:05
  SPEAKER_03: Yep.
• 20:05
  SPEAKER_03: I think that's correct.
• 20:07
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 20:07
  SPEAKER_03: And Michael Derwood in the Clinchport podcast is voiced by,
• 20:11
  SPEAKER_03: I forget his last name,
• 20:12
  SPEAKER_03: but I know his first name is Jared.
• 20:14
  SPEAKER_02: Jared.
• 20:14
  SPEAKER_02: He's amazing.
• 20:15
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 20:16
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 20:16
  SPEAKER_03: So Jared's the voice of Michael Derwood.
• 20:18
  SPEAKER_03: He does a phenomenal job.
• 20:19
  SPEAKER_03: You guys are going to love him.
• 20:20
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 20:20
  SPEAKER_02: He does Michael Derwood.
• 20:21
  SPEAKER_02: He does another character.
• 20:22
  SPEAKER_02: That's very, very funny.
• 20:23
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 20:24
  SPEAKER_02: So I'm excited.
• 20:24
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 20:25
  yeah okay so yeah so now that we've kind of covered sort of the
• 20:28
  broader mythos the
• 20:28
  next thing i wanted to talk about is how how we arrived at
• 20:31
  clench port so i if i
• 20:34
  recall correctly and i'd love to hear your thoughts on this
• 20:36
  james but um if i
• 20:37
  recall correctly you and i years and years ago we decided that
• 20:41
  we wanted to do a
• 20:42
  series where all of our characters that we had developed up
• 20:46
  until that point so it
• 20:46
  SPEAKER_03: was our evil doctor character it was troll slayer yeah
• 20:49
  obviously troll slayer's mom because he lives with her we
• 20:52
  wanted them all to exist
• 20:53
  in the same town is am i right in remembering is that how i
• 20:57
  think you're you're
• 20:57
  correct i think i think joe was in there as well yeah we went
• 21:00
  you after show but
• 21:02
  SPEAKER_02: i'd still love to bring back at some point
• 21:04
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, for sure.
• 21:05
  SPEAKER_03: We should actually bring him back at some point.
• 21:07
  SPEAKER_03: So that was kind of how Clenchport came about.
• 21:09
  SPEAKER_03: But I remember you basically said to me,
• 21:12
  SPEAKER_03: okay,
• 21:12
  I want to start working on a real series and I want to really
• 21:14
  get it off the
• 21:15
  SPEAKER_03: ground.
• 21:15
  SPEAKER_03: And you were like, you basically said, okay, pitch me some ideas.
• 21:19
  SPEAKER_03: And so...
• 21:20
  SPEAKER_03: I pitched you two ideas,
• 21:22
  SPEAKER_03: the first of which was the Chronicles of Clenchport,
• 21:24
  and the other one was a Norse mythology concept called Return
• 21:29
  to Ragnarok.
• 21:37
  the characters were pulled into the world of the game and it
• 21:41
  was a very cool
• 21:42
  concept but we ended up going with Clenchport and so Return to
• 21:45
  Ragnarok never
• 21:46
  actually went anywhere it just remained kind of a pitch on my
• 21:50
  Google Drive I think
• 21:52
  the reason that I went with Clenchport at the time it wasn't
• 21:54
  called Clenchport it
• 21:55
  was called I think Doctor Something's Emporium or something or
• 22:01
  other right yeah but
• 22:04
  SPEAKER_02: yeah
• 22:05
  um i think we went with that because it was slightly less
• 22:08
  ambitious um at the time
• 22:09
  uh for what we could do it's like now it's like whatever i can
• 22:13
  do anything we want
• 22:15
  to do um but yeah i think at the time we just had i just had
• 22:18
  like kind of limited
• 22:19
  resources but now we actually have like a full team working on
• 22:21
  this stuff yeah well
• 22:23
  what i was going to say is the reason i brought it up is
• 22:25
  because um james as you
• 22:26
  know i've recently started working with a company called audio
• 22:29
  mazes that does
• 22:29
  SPEAKER_03: immersive audio dramas hell yeah um
• 22:33
  So what I did was I ended up pitching them Return to Ragnarok
• 22:38
  as soon as I started
• 22:38
  SPEAKER_03: working with them.
• 22:39
  SPEAKER_03: And so I'm really excited to announce,
• 22:41
  SPEAKER_03: and I'm hoping to announce this also on Substack,
• 22:44
  SPEAKER_03: but my second Audio Maze's book just released,
• 22:47
  SPEAKER_03: and it is in fact Return to Ragnarok.
• 22:48
  SPEAKER_03: Wow.
• 22:50
  oh damn the concept the concept is very similar to what you and
• 22:54
  i discussed forever
• 22:55
  ago i was really excited to use the idea you know elsewhere so
• 22:59
  return to ragnarok i
• 22:59
  ended up using that idea for for audio mazes and so now you can
• 23:03
  actually if you're
• 23:04
  an audio mazes subscriber you can listen to the full book and
• 23:06
  uh the concept is
• 23:08
  very similar it's about a fictional tabletop rpg called return
• 23:11
  to ragnarok
• 23:11
  that is based on norse mythology and in the book you're able to
• 23:15
  choose because it
• 23:16
  has branching paths you're able to choose which character you
• 23:20
  want to quote unquote
• 23:21
  SPEAKER_03: play as you can follow any of their stories and so there is a barbarian a
• 23:25
  necromancer and a ranger for you to choose from um that's sick
• 23:29
  yeah and so and then
• 23:30
  SPEAKER_03: the book has multiple endings and a lot of crazy twists
• 23:33
  So Return to Ragnarok thankfully ended up becoming a real idea
• 23:38
  elsewhere.
• 23:38
  SPEAKER_03: And obviously you and I decided to pursue Clenchport.
• 23:41
  SPEAKER_03: So obviously I'll have plenty more ideas down the road,
• 23:44
  but right now we are all in on Clenchport and that's where I'm
• 23:46
  happy to be.
• 23:46
  SPEAKER_03: Absolutely.
• 23:47
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 23:49
  I'm,
• 23:50
  I'm,
• 23:50
  I'm really interested to see like,
• 23:51
  like how far we can get Clenchport.
• 23:53
  Cause I know there's,
• 23:54
  there's a ton of indie animation out there these days.
• 23:57
  There's all sorts of pilots getting produced and it's a really
• 24:00
  cool time for
• 24:01
  SPEAKER_02: independent animation.
• 24:02
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 24:03
  So when the kind of the rest of like the industry is kind of
• 24:07
  falling apart,
• 24:08
  SPEAKER_02: all the indie people are kind of taking over.
• 24:10
  SPEAKER_02: So it's an exciting time.
• 24:12
  SPEAKER_03: I agree.
• 24:13
  SPEAKER_03: I agree.
• 24:14
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it feels right.
• 24:15
  SPEAKER_03: It feels like really good as far as timing goes.
• 24:17
  SPEAKER_03: And so next I wanted to talk about where we are right now,
• 24:21
  SPEAKER_03: like the current status of the Clenchport series,
• 24:23
  SPEAKER_03: because as I've told everybody,
• 24:24
  SPEAKER_03: it's upcoming.
• 24:25
  SPEAKER_03: We're working on it.
• 24:27
  SPEAKER_03: Our team that we have right now, James, it's about 15 people.
• 24:31
  SPEAKER_03: Am I right about that?
• 24:32
  SPEAKER_03: Something like that.
• 24:33
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 24:33
  SPEAKER_03: And so these are all people that are extremely talented.
• 24:35
  They're currently volunteering their time until we're able to
• 24:38
  secure funding.
• 24:39
  SPEAKER_03: Absolutely.
• 24:40
  SPEAKER_03: And so, yeah.
• 24:41
  So right now,
• 24:42
  from a writing perspective,
• 24:43
  what I can say is that we've written the pilot script.
• 24:45
  SPEAKER_03: Obviously, we've we've approved that and made edits to it.
• 24:48
  We also have a number of short film style type things that we
• 24:52
  were going to do to
• 24:53
  SPEAKER_03: kind of build out interest in the series.
• 24:55
  SPEAKER_03: And these include some character focused shorts,
• 24:58
  as well as a series of sort of interrogations where the
• 25:01
  character Michael Durwood
• 25:02
  SPEAKER_03: is grilling,
• 25:04
  grilling different characters about events that will happen in
• 25:06
  the series.
• 25:07
  SPEAKER_03: But really cool.
• 25:08
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 25:08
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 25:09
  SPEAKER_03: James,
• 25:09
  let me let me pause for a second to have you talk about where
• 25:12
  we are in terms of
• 25:14
  SPEAKER_03: art and animation and that kind of stuff.
• 25:16
  SPEAKER_02: Art and animation.
• 25:16
  SPEAKER_02: OK, so we have most of the main characters kind of designed.
• 25:20
  SPEAKER_02: We are storyboarding some of the shorts right now.
• 25:24
  And I think I'm actually going to pivot soon to have people
• 25:26
  start like actually
• 25:28
  storyboarding the pilot because we really need to get that done
• 25:32
  or storyboard it so
• 25:33
  SPEAKER_02: we can actually start animating it and getting backgrounds made.
• 25:36
  And speaking of backgrounds,
• 25:37
  we have backgrounds being made for the short and for the
• 25:41
  shorts.
• 25:42
  And I'm doing all the character animation and the character,
• 25:48
  the rigging,
• 25:49
  the setup.
• 25:50
  SPEAKER_02: of each of the characters.
• 25:51
  SPEAKER_02: So I'm working in a program called Toon Boom Harmony,
• 25:54
  SPEAKER_02: which is a digital animation software,
• 25:57
  SPEAKER_02: vector-based.
• 25:58
  So basically I'm taking all of the character designs that are
• 26:03
  my friend Adam,
• 26:04
  SPEAKER_02: he did all the characters,
• 26:06
  SPEAKER_02: most of the main characters.
• 26:07
  SPEAKER_02: I think we had my friend Eric also do some great character designs.
• 26:12
  So I'm taking their character designs and kind of making them
• 26:14
  into like these
• 26:15
  digital puppets that you can kind of move around and make them
• 26:18
  look really cool.
• 26:20
  SPEAKER_02: So, yeah, that's kind of where we're at.
• 26:23
  SPEAKER_03: That's great, James.
• 26:24
  SPEAKER_03: Thank you.
• 26:24
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah,
• 26:24
  SPEAKER_03: I love how you described the animation process,
• 26:26
  SPEAKER_03: too,
• 26:26
  SPEAKER_03: because I know it's extremely complicated,
• 26:28
  SPEAKER_03: but you described it in a very understandable way.
• 26:30
  SPEAKER_03: So I appreciate that.
• 26:31
  SPEAKER_02: For sure.
• 26:32
  I'm actually thinking of starting a Substack for
• 26:34
  animation-related things.
• 26:36
  SPEAKER_02: I might write more about that.
• 26:38
  SPEAKER_03: That would be amazing.
• 26:40
  SPEAKER_03: Yes.
• 26:41
  SPEAKER_03: All right.
• 26:41
  SPEAKER_03: Well, you heard it here first, folks.
• 26:43
  SPEAKER_03: James Nethery may be coming to Substack.
• 26:46
  SPEAKER_03: And don't worry, I will be letting you know when that happens.
• 26:49
  SPEAKER_02: Absolutely.
• 26:50
  While I'm here,
• 26:52
  I got to plug my...
• 26:53
  I'm starting a craft beer channel as well.
• 26:54
  SPEAKER_02: I'm a big craft beer guy.
• 26:56
  SPEAKER_02: So that's going to have some cool animation stuff in it as well.
• 26:59
  SPEAKER_02: So definitely keep an eye out for me.
• 27:01
  craft beer and animation a match made oh yeah absolutely i'm
• 27:07
  actually i'm not
• 27:07
  drinking i'm not drinking a beer right now but there is a drink
• 27:10
  of some sort in my
• 27:11
  SPEAKER_02: hand
• 27:13
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, so that's where we're at right now with Clinchport.
• 27:15
  And so one of the things I wanted to talk about real quick is
• 27:18
  our podcast that
• 27:19
  SPEAKER_03: we're going to be launching soon.
• 27:20
  As I mentioned earlier,
• 27:21
  it's going to be called The Many Worlds of Clinchport.
• 27:23
  And the idea of the podcast is that it's going to be an ongoing
• 27:26
  narrative podcast
• 27:27
  SPEAKER_03: where it stars two radio hosts who are longtime residents of Clinchport.
• 27:32
  And they are basically investigating some strange events
• 27:35
  throughout the town's history and
• 27:37
  SPEAKER_03: And as part of the podcast,
• 27:40
  they have discovered an archive of found audio from alternate
• 27:44
  realities and
• 27:45
  SPEAKER_03: versions of Clenchport.
• 27:47
  SPEAKER_03: And so as the series goes on,
• 27:49
  SPEAKER_03: we'll learn about not only the history of the Clenchport in our universe,
• 27:52
  but the history of Clenchport and other parallel versions of it
• 27:55
  within that local
• 27:56
  SPEAKER_03: nexus that I mentioned earlier as part of the Synaptic Sprawl.
• 28:00
  SPEAKER_03: So that'll be really exciting.
• 28:01
  SPEAKER_03: Um, the podcast is in production.
• 28:05
  SPEAKER_03: I'm hoping to launch it soon.
• 28:07
  SPEAKER_03: Um,
• 28:07
  SPEAKER_03: I think it's safe to say that as far as casting goes,
• 28:10
  SPEAKER_03: obviously I will be playing one of the hosts,
• 28:12
  SPEAKER_03: Ron Cutler is my character's name.
• 28:14
  SPEAKER_03: And then,
• 28:15
  SPEAKER_03: uh,
• 28:15
  SPEAKER_03: we have explored a couple options for the,
• 28:18
  SPEAKER_03: the co-host,
• 28:19
  SPEAKER_03: but I think,
• 28:20
  SPEAKER_03: I think,
• 28:21
  SPEAKER_03: I think at this point,
• 28:22
  SPEAKER_03: just because of availability,
• 28:23
  SPEAKER_03: we're going to have you James co-host,
• 28:26
  SPEAKER_03: um,
• 28:26
  SPEAKER_03: as Dave Netherson is the name of that character.
• 28:28
  SPEAKER_03: Yes.
• 28:29
  SPEAKER_02: Hey, that's my name.
• 28:31
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah.
• 28:33
  SPEAKER_03: And the co-hosts are very much supposed to be a nod to James and myself.
• 28:39
  SPEAKER_02: And Dave is my dad's name, too.
• 28:41
  SPEAKER_03: Yep, exactly.
• 28:42
  SPEAKER_03: That's right.
• 28:43
  SPEAKER_03: I did that on purpose, I think.
• 28:47
  SPEAKER_03: But yeah, so the podcast will be really interesting.
• 28:50
  The way that it's going to work is that every episode will
• 28:51
  actually be two parts.
• 28:53
  SPEAKER_03: So in each episode,
• 28:55
  SPEAKER_03: you're going to have an episode,
• 28:57
  SPEAKER_03: like for example,
• 28:57
  SPEAKER_03: episode one,
• 28:58
  SPEAKER_03: side A,
• 29:00
  SPEAKER_03: and episode one,
• 29:01
  SPEAKER_03: side B.
• 29:02
  SPEAKER_03: And these will be two separate releases.
• 29:03
  SPEAKER_03: And the reason for that is because inside A,
• 29:06
  you're going to hear about a story from Clinchport's history
• 29:09
  that exists within our
• 29:10
  SPEAKER_03: universe.
• 29:11
  So it's based on the town's history in this universe that we
• 29:15
  are in ourselves.
• 29:16
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 29:16
  and and the universe that our characters are in in the series
• 29:20
  uh now in episode b
• 29:21
  SPEAKER_03: they're going to use the found audio they have to listen to several other
• 29:25
  variations of clenchport in different parallel universes and
• 29:29
  they're going to see
• 29:29
  how that same story played out in parallel realities and so
• 29:33
  it's going to be really
• 29:34
  really cool i think it's a very unique structure i'm really
• 29:37
  excited about it any
• 29:38
  SPEAKER_03: thoughts on the podcast james just in general
• 29:41
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, it's going to be really cool.
• 29:42
  It kind of kind of like a like a companion piece of the series,
• 29:45
  which I think is amazing.
• 29:47
  SPEAKER_02: And yeah, like you said, it's all part of the expanded.
• 29:49
  SPEAKER_02: What did you call it?
• 29:51
  SPEAKER_02: Like the expanded the transmedia universe, transmedia universe.
• 29:55
  SPEAKER_02: Yes.
• 29:55
  SPEAKER_02: It's going to be all part of that.
• 29:57
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 29:57
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 29:58
  SPEAKER_02: It'd be great to do a bunch of kind of stuff like that, you know.
• 30:02
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah,
• 30:04
  SPEAKER_03: I've been really inspired by the concept of a transmedia universe,
• 30:07
  SPEAKER_03: so I want to build that out.
• 30:09
  And the idea of the transmedia universe is that you can
• 30:12
  experience just one of the
• 30:14
  SPEAKER_03: things and still get a complete story.
• 30:17
  SPEAKER_03: So if you just watched Clenchport,
• 30:20
  SPEAKER_03: the series,
• 30:21
  SPEAKER_03: and all of its shorts,
• 30:22
  SPEAKER_03: you would still get a full...
• 30:24
  and complete story uh but if you decided to expand your
• 30:28
  perspective to the short
• 30:29
  stories or to the podcast you would get additional lore and
• 30:33
  story and so that's
• 30:34
  what makes it really cool to me it's kind of like the old uh
• 30:37
  like before disney
• 30:38
  kind of took over like the old uh star wars expanded universe
• 30:42
  right the thing where
• 30:43
  they'd have like all these books and comics and all this kind
• 30:46
  of cool stuff
• 30:47
  SPEAKER_02: alongside like the main movies
• 30:49
  And people could kind of get all this lore and stuff like that
• 30:54
  outside of the main series.
• 30:56
  SPEAKER_02: I think it's a really, really freaking cool idea.
• 30:59
  SPEAKER_03: That's exactly right.
• 31:00
  SPEAKER_03: I think that's a great comparison, James.
• 31:02
  SPEAKER_03: So to wrap up our discussion here,
• 31:04
  SPEAKER_03: I wanted to talk about what's next for the Chronicles of Clenchport.
• 31:07
  SPEAKER_03: So obviously,
• 31:08
  SPEAKER_03: I'm hoping within the next,
• 31:10
  SPEAKER_03: let's say,
• 31:11
  SPEAKER_03: realistically,
• 31:12
  SPEAKER_03: probably the next month or two,
• 31:13
  SPEAKER_03: I want to launch the podcast,
• 31:14
  SPEAKER_03: The Many Worlds of Clenchport.
• 31:16
  SPEAKER_03: And then...
• 31:17
  SPEAKER_03: I don't think we really have a timeline yet for the series,
• 31:19
  SPEAKER_03: unfortunately,
• 31:20
  SPEAKER_03: but we don't,
• 31:22
  SPEAKER_03: I wanted to talk a little bit about kind of what our next steps are.
• 31:24
  SPEAKER_03: So obviously you were talking about storyboarding and,
• 31:27
  SPEAKER_03: you know,
• 31:27
  SPEAKER_03: kind of art and backgrounds and stuff.
• 31:31
  SPEAKER_03: You and I have also talked a bit about seeking investors or crowdfunding.
• 31:36
  So I think,
• 31:36
  I think that's still the plan at some point in the near future.
• 31:38
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 31:39
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah,
• 31:40
  kind of what I want to do is get the storyboards for the pilot
• 31:44
  done and maybe a
• 31:46
  little bit of animation done as well with some full backgrounds
• 31:49
  and either get a
• 31:50
  Kickstarter going or try and find an investor of some sort to
• 31:55
  get the series off
• 31:57
  SPEAKER_02: the ground so we can make more episodes.
• 31:59
  SPEAKER_02: Because we can make the first episode on our own, no problem.
• 32:03
  SPEAKER_02: It's just subsequent episodes are going to be tricky to fund.
• 32:07
  SPEAKER_03: Right, right.
• 32:08
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 32:09
  SPEAKER_03: No, absolutely.
• 32:10
  And I think that's a really good example of why the
• 32:12
  crowdfunding slash investors are needed.
• 32:15
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 32:15
  And then another thing that I wanted to highlight is that we
• 32:19
  are bringing in help
• 32:22
  SPEAKER_03: from Sarah,
• 32:24
  SPEAKER_03: Sarah Rush,
• 32:26
  SPEAKER_03: my girlfriend.
• 32:27
  SPEAKER_03: And she has experience with web design.
• 32:31
  And so we are going to have her help us build a website for
• 32:35
  Clinchport here in the near future.
• 32:37
  And we're going to structure the website as if it were a
• 32:41
  fictional town of
• 32:42
  SPEAKER_03: clenchport.com kind of thing,
• 32:44
  SPEAKER_03: right?
• 32:44
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it's going to be amazing.
• 32:46
  SPEAKER_03: And so I'm really excited to tap into her talents there.
• 32:49
  SPEAKER_03: Obviously,
• 32:50
  SPEAKER_03: to anybody listening to this,
• 32:51
  SPEAKER_03: you probably know her better,
• 32:53
  SPEAKER_03: Sarah,
• 32:53
  SPEAKER_03: better as the prompt goddess.
• 32:56
  Because she came up with all those amazing prompts back in
• 32:59
  Flash Fiction February,
• 33:00
  SPEAKER_03: as well as my madness and mayhem challenge.
• 33:04
  So,
• 33:05
  but yes,
• 33:06
  she is leveraging her talents to help us with Clenchport as
• 33:08
  well.
• 33:08
  SPEAKER_03: And we're really excited to have her on the team.
• 33:11
  SPEAKER_02: Sarah is very talented, very talented voice actress as well.
• 33:13
  SPEAKER_02: I loved her voice work.
• 33:15
  SPEAKER_02: That's very true.
• 33:15
  SPEAKER_03: I appreciate you bringing that up because as part of this episode,
• 33:21
  SPEAKER_03: there's a couple of different segues in here.
• 33:23
  And those segues are actually fictional ads that will be
• 33:26
  featured in the Clenchport podcast.
• 33:28
  SPEAKER_03: I wanted to preview them here.
• 33:30
  SPEAKER_03: And you'll actually hear Sarah's voice in both of them.
• 33:33
  SPEAKER_03: So if you enjoy that, definitely leave a comment and tag her.
• 33:36
  SPEAKER_03: Her tag is Tira B. So it's at T-I-R-A-B-E-E.
• 33:43
  SPEAKER_03: And let her know what you think because I know she would love that.
• 33:45
  SPEAKER_03: But yeah, she does great work with her voice acting as well.
• 33:47
  SPEAKER_03: That's a very good point.
• 33:48
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that was really fantastic work.
• 33:51
  SPEAKER_02: You showed me those today and I was really impressed with that.
• 33:53
  SPEAKER_02: So yeah.
• 33:55
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 33:55
  SPEAKER_03: Awesome.
• 33:56
  Well,
• 33:56
  James,
• 33:57
  I am so grateful to have you back on the show for a second
• 33:59
  time.
• 34:00
  And this was a wonderful discussion about Clunchport and the
• 34:03
  stuff that we're working on.
• 34:05
  SPEAKER_03: So thank you again for being here.
• 34:07
  And I'm sure I'll have you back again someday soon when we're
• 34:10
  close to launching the series.
• 34:13
  SPEAKER_03: I'm sure I'll have you back, but thanks for being here, James.
• 34:15
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it's my pleasure, man.
• 34:17
  SPEAKER_03: All right.
• 34:18
  And thank you to James once again for joining me for that
• 34:20
  awesome discussion to
• 34:21
  SPEAKER_03: talk about this amazing series and universe that we're building.
• 34:24
  SPEAKER_03: Before we wrap up,
• 34:25
  I've got one more message here from a product that you'll only
• 34:27
  find on the shelves
• 34:28
  SPEAKER_03: of the smart shopper and maybe the dark web in Clenchport.
• 34:32
  SPEAKER_00: Ah, what's the matter?
• 34:34
  SPEAKER_00: Don't like what you see in the mirror?
• 34:37
  SPEAKER_03: Much like my life, my physique also peaked in high school.
• 34:41
  SPEAKER_03: No matter what I do, I can't seem to lose weight.
• 34:43
  SPEAKER_00: That's because the fitness industry has been lying to you.
• 34:46
  SPEAKER_00: Weight loss doesn't come from exercise and a healthy diet.
• 34:50
  SPEAKER_00: It comes from drastic and non-FDA approved supplements.
• 34:54
  SPEAKER_03: Really?
• 34:55
  You mean all I have to do is take a sketchy pill three times a
• 34:57
  day and I'll finally
• 34:58
  SPEAKER_03: lose this weight?
• 35:00
  SPEAKER_00: Of course, it's that simple.
• 35:02
  SPEAKER_00: Introducing Drop Dead Gorgeous,
• 35:04
  the only weight loss supplement guaranteed to produce rapid and
• 35:08
  terrifying weight
• 35:08
  SPEAKER_00: loss in a matter of weeks.
• 35:11
  SPEAKER_03: Sounds too good to be true.
• 35:13
  SPEAKER_03: What's the catch?
• 35:14
  Well,
• 35:15
  they say that beauty is pain,
• 35:17
  and in this case,
• 35:17
  it's downright lethal.
• 35:19
  SPEAKER_03: Wait, you mean it's gonna kill me?
• 35:21
  SPEAKER_00: You betcha.
• 35:23
  Just about every ingredient in Drop Dead Gorgeous's proprietary
• 35:26
  blend is classified
• 35:28
  SPEAKER_00: as a poisonous substance.
• 35:29
  SPEAKER_03: I don't know if that trade-off is worth it.
• 35:32
  SPEAKER_00: Would 300,000 sales and 45 pending lawsuits lie?
• 35:37
  SPEAKER_03: Well, when you put it that way, I guess not.
• 35:39
  SPEAKER_03: That's it then.
• 35:40
  I'm going to go head to the store and pick up a bottle of Drop
• 35:43
  Dead Gorgeous.
• 35:44
  SPEAKER_00: Oops, you won't find it at any retailers.
• 35:47
  SPEAKER_00: Drop Dead Gorgeous is available exclusively on the dark web.
• 35:51
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, good.
• 35:52
  SPEAKER_03: How convenient.
• 35:53
  SPEAKER_03: Thanks, disembodied voice.
• 35:55
  SPEAKER_00: You betcha!
• 35:57
  SPEAKER_00: Drop dead gorgeous.
• 35:58
  SPEAKER_00: It'll kill you, but at least you'll look great at your funeral.
• 36:03
  SPEAKER_03: Alright,
• 36:04
  SPEAKER_03: and as I said earlier in the episode,
• 36:06
  these ads that you've heard today on this special episode of
• 36:09
  the Saved as Draft
• 36:09
  podcast are some examples of the in-universe ads that you'll be
• 36:13
  hearing on the Many
• 36:14
  SPEAKER_03: Worlds of Clenchport podcast.
• 36:16
  SPEAKER_03: So while you may hear those again when that show launches,
• 36:19
  I couldn't resist the urge to give you guys a little preview
• 36:21
  and show you what
• 36:23
  we're working with there as far as the style of comedy and
• 36:25
  humor goes in those ads
• 36:26
  that'll sort of break up the stories told in the Many Worlds of
• 36:29
  Clenchport podcast.
• 36:30
  SPEAKER_03: All right.
• 36:31
  And before we wrap up,
• 36:32
  I just want to mention the plan for next week once I'm back
• 36:35
  from my trip.
• 36:36
  I've scheduled a few things to come out while I'm on vacation
• 36:38
  so the algorithm
• 36:39
  SPEAKER_03: doesn't throw me into the void.
• 36:40
  SPEAKER_03: But once I'm back,
• 36:41
  we'll have a brand new full episode of the Saved as Draft
• 36:44
  podcast on Friday,
• 36:45
  SPEAKER_03: August 29th.
• 36:46
  SPEAKER_03: And as a quick reminder,
• 36:48
  SPEAKER_03: power up prompt number 10,
• 36:49
  SPEAKER_03: which is focused on dialogue and world building,
• 36:52
  SPEAKER_03: will be open until Thursday,
• 36:53
  SPEAKER_03: August 28th.
• 36:54
  So check it out and let me know if you publish something so I
• 36:56
  can mention it on the
• 36:57
  SPEAKER_03: next full episode of this podcast.
• 36:59
  SPEAKER_03: And before I wrap up here,
• 37:01
  SPEAKER_03: I just want to give a special shout out to everyone listening to this,
• 37:03
  SPEAKER_03: and to everyone who's shown support for the Clenchport series thus far.
• 37:06
  SPEAKER_03: James and I,
• 37:07
  SPEAKER_03: and the team as well,
• 37:08
  SPEAKER_03: are very passionate about what we're building here,
• 37:10
  SPEAKER_03: and your support really does mean the world to us.
• 37:12
  SPEAKER_03: So stay tuned for more news soon.
• 37:14
  SPEAKER_03: In the meantime,
• 37:15
  SPEAKER_03: I'm going to get back to packing for my trip,
• 37:16
  SPEAKER_03: but I'm wishing you all a productive week of writing while I'm out.
• 37:19
  SPEAKER_03: And thanks again for checking out this week's special episode.
• 37:22
  SPEAKER_03: This is Bradley Ramsey, signing off.
• 37:40
  SPEAKER_02: Hunter, where did this PS5 Pro and Switch 2 come from?
• 37:44
  SPEAKER_03: They're mine, Mom!
• 37:45
  I bought them,
• 37:46
  uh...
• 37:47
  Are you sure you didn't take them from Bradley's house?
• 37:50
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, come on, Mom!
• 37:52
  SPEAKER_03: He does my voice!
• 37:53
  SPEAKER_03: We're basically the same person!
• 37:55
  SPEAKER_03: And let's be honest, what is ownership in the digital age, anyway?
• 37:58
  SPEAKER_03: Do we really own anything anymore?
• 38:01
  SPEAKER_02: Don't you get all philosophical on me, boy!
• 38:04
  SPEAKER_02: You return that man's expensive gaming consoles this instant!
• 38:07
  SPEAKER_03: Ugh, fine.
• 38:09
  SPEAKER_03: But let me finish Elden Ring first.
• 38:11
  SPEAKER_03: I must become the Elden Lord.
• 38:13
  SPEAKER_03: Maybe then I won't be Maidenless anymore.
• 38:16
  Yeah,
• 38:17
  maybe the Elden Lord will actually help out on the bills around
• 38:19
  here.
• 38:20
  SPEAKER_03: Get out of my room, Mom!