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- 0:00Hi there, welcome back to Hydroponics Daily, the podcast where we explore the
- 0:03science, systems and strategies behind soilless growing.
- 0:07I'm your host, Dr. Russell Sharp from Utrema, the inventor of gold leaf,
- 0:12or as it's called in the UK, liquid gold.
- 0:14And today we're tackling an unusual but increasingly interesting and popular subject.
- 0:21Can you grow lawn grass or sports
- 0:24turf hydroponically this might
- 0:27sound stupid and you might the obvious answer might
- 0:30be no when you think of a traditional nft dwc
- 0:34hydroponic system the last thing you would think
- 0:37about is sports turf but it
- 0:41is potentially possible and there
- 0:44are a couple of companies that are looking at it and let's
- 0:48look at first like the definition of the idea of
- 0:51grass without soil so when we say
- 0:53lawn grass we're usually referring to turf grasses like perennial
- 0:57ryegrass and in america kentucky bluegrass
- 1:01bermudagrass and fescues in the uk and they
- 1:04form dense mats in residential lawns golf
- 1:07courses athletics fields football pitches and
- 1:11growing them hydroponically means cultivating them without soil in
- 1:15a medium setup where nutrients are delivered through water so is
- 1:18this possible well technically yes and technically a
- 1:21lot of sports pitches would already be.
- 1:23Classed as hydroponically really they're soilless most of
- 1:27the premium grade sports football pitches soccer
- 1:29pitches in the uk are based on sand and
- 1:33have plastic membranes around them they're called like hybrid systems there's
- 1:36a lot of plastic in there as well so they're pure sand there's no soil it's
- 1:40all artificial medium and it's basically a run-to-waste hydroponic system and
- 1:45a lot of them get fined by the environment agency because of the amount of fertilizer
- 1:49that's leached into the waterways.
- 1:52So technically, yes, it's possible, but could we have a recirculatory system
- 1:55where the nutrients in the water are recycled?
- 1:58And that way it could actually be good for the environment because you wouldn't
- 2:00lose any nutrients and you could save a lot of water.
- 2:03We know hydroponics, when they're recirculatory, save a vast amount of water.
- 2:08And it's been done, hydroponic turf trials have been done with lawn grasses.
- 2:13At the moment it's fairly niche and a lot of
- 2:16it is research-based but practically it's possible i've done
- 2:19it myself in the greenhouses here we did
- 2:23we've got a big customer in sports turf
- 2:26products that we manufacture and we did a
- 2:29hydroponic system to exclude one nutrient
- 2:32from from each system that was so
- 2:35that we could we could visualize the symptoms
- 2:39of deficiency of each nutrient when in
- 2:41the real world so we could actually if you were doing that in soil
- 2:44you couldn't exclude one nutrient as hydroponically we could
- 2:47and you can there's two reasons you
- 2:50might want to commercialize hydroponics in sports
- 2:53turf and lawn turf the first is for rapid
- 2:56growth of what we call sod those rolls of turf you
- 3:00could rapidly grow them in a organic or
- 3:03a clay sand based medium rather than directly in
- 3:06the soil and you could grow them under led lights with
- 3:09a fertigation solution and get them really fast growing
- 3:11and then potentially establish a lot better once
- 3:15they actually get in the ground so that's one particular good reason.
- 3:18For them and then the other is a hydroponic system when actually the
- 3:21whole lawn continues to be
- 3:24hydroponics and this hydroponic system is set up and it
- 3:27recirculates so you could have a golf course or a football pitch
- 3:30that is completely hydroponic and recirculatory and
- 3:35that sounds like a lot of effort and it is a lot of effort but
- 3:38in situations where water is a premium and
- 3:41nutrient pollution is a major issue
- 3:44and you still need event grade turf then
- 3:47this could be a particularly good um solution
- 3:50so there is a company called capillary capillary hydroponics
- 3:54that are looking into this and claim to
- 3:57have got a lot of systems already set up and so
- 4:00sort of capillary grass sorry yeah
- 4:04hydroponics they so check them out it's
- 4:07a closed loop system and yeah potentially
- 4:10it's of use i'm not sure in the uk with the amount of rainfall
- 4:13we have that we you would get it would
- 4:16be value for money but potentially if you've got the money for
- 4:19establishing it and setting up all the systems the
- 4:22tanks required would be massive and the there would
- 4:25be a lot of piping over a massive area especially in golf courses but maybe
- 4:29if you had a particular hole a particular green golf green that was was proving
- 4:36particularly problematic and it could be a good one to look at but it would
- 4:40need a lot of earthwork movement to do that.
- 4:44Led grow lights have been used now in sports turf
- 4:47for a long time and so that side of
- 4:50things wouldn't be an issue they're big arrays that
- 4:53go on to football pitches and golf courses to boost
- 4:57growth when they need it especially in shaded areas a
- 5:00football stadium soccer stadium is very shaded you
- 5:03think about wimbledon that's even more shaded that's such
- 5:06a closed environment that leds
- 5:09were almost essential for getting the grass grows this time of
- 5:12year just before they start
- 5:14playing on it in you know for qualifiers ahead
- 5:18of the the main tournament so led grow
- 5:21lights would be essential and and tennis
- 5:24uh hard-wearing hydroponic tennis grass
- 5:27tennis could it could it could increase the amount
- 5:30of venues that could hold a grass court event
- 5:34around the world and around certain times
- 5:37of the year as well i just think tennis looks better on
- 5:41grass as a spectacle compared to
- 5:44what do they call a hardcore clay system and clays
- 5:47just looks better on grass so if we could have some winter
- 5:50grass tournaments wouldn't that be amazing so that's
- 5:53hydroponics daily for today and also remember silicon is
- 5:56really good in grass we talked about that on yesterday's episode
- 5:59and you could choose your particular silicon you wanted.
- 6:02To use and the reason i've talked about sports turf
- 6:05today is that we've just set up another podcast that'll
- 6:09be running on weekdays and that's called grass
- 6:12me up and that's going to be all about lawn and
- 6:15sports turf science and using that science
- 6:18in practical every day if you've got a lawn if you're
- 6:21into sports turf what i'll do is i'll add the the
- 6:25link into the show description and so
- 6:28yeah check out grass me up um on apple
- 6:31i'll probably actually add the mp3 to the end of this one so that
- 6:34you can have a listen to the introductory episode so stay tuned
- 6:37after that as a bonus as well it's not just sports grass that's been looked
- 6:42at hydroponically recently there's a dairy farmer in holland and he's looking
- 6:48at growing grass hydroponically to feed to cows so the land can be better used
- 6:54for other uses in holland,
- 6:57it's debatable whether you could be efficient enough. I mean,
- 7:00grassland for animals is fairly cheap compared to arable land,
- 7:07and the grass grows fairly well.
- 7:09So it'd be debatable, but he seems to think that it could be potential.
- 7:13And animal feed has been grown hydroponically for a long time.
- 7:17Especially like sprouted barley, sprouted wheat.
- 7:20That's been a particular strong additive
- 7:24in animal feed for a long time in
- 7:26certain countries so it's not beyond the witter
- 7:29man to produce hydroponic animal feed grass so grasslands
- 7:32artificial grasslands so yeah that's been hydroponics daily for today as i say
- 7:37stay tuned and i'll just bump on the introductory episode of grass me up next
- 7:43thank you hello there welcome to grass me up the premier podcast for lawn and sports turf science,
- 7:52agronomy and everything that grows under your feet and keeps our fields,
- 7:55pitches and gardens looking pristine, aka grass.
- 7:59I'm your host, Dr. Russell Sharp from Utrema, and whether you're a turf manager,
- 8:05sports groundskeeper, lawn enthusiast or just someone who's genuinely fascinated by soil microbes,
- 8:11mowers, sprayers, lovely grass, you're in the right place.
- 8:15So this podcast isn't just grass deep, we're going root deep,
- 8:19We're going fungal network deep because behind every lush green pitch or pristine
- 8:24striped lawn is a world of biology, chemistry and physics.
- 8:29And let's face it, a bit of madness.
- 8:31You've got to be mad to be in the lawn and turf game. In this introductory episode,
- 8:35I want to give you a taste of what's coming up and why you may never look at
- 8:38your lawn or football pitch the same way again.
- 8:41I'm hoping to do an episode every weekday.
- 8:45We've got about 200 topics, so I should be able to get through a calendar year, at least with that.
- 8:51That's a lot more often than most podcasts, but I do another podcast called
- 8:56Hydroponics Daily for the hydroponics industry, and that has gone well so far this year.
- 9:00So I thought we've got lots of customers in the lawn care and sports turf industry
- 9:04at Utreema, so I thought I'd continue our efforts with another podcast dedicated to you guys.
- 9:10So we'll tackle topics that range from the practical to the scientific,
- 9:15from the obscure to the essential.
- 9:18Ever wondered why your lawn turns yellow in droughts or whether seaweed extracts actually do anything?
- 9:23Well, we'll break it down for you. Are you curious about what chaffer grubs
- 9:26and letharg jackets are doing to your turf?
- 9:28We'll talk biological control, nematodes and prevention strategies that don't wreck your ecosystem.
- 9:34We'll explore how sports turf professionals in the Premier League construct
- 9:38pritches that survive 40 games and still look flawless.
- 9:41What makes usga green construction so
- 9:44resilient and how to actually deal with moss power annua
- 9:47fairy rings and even slime mold you ever
- 9:50had a slime mold on your lawn it's pretty disgusting luckily
- 9:53it doesn't harm the grass too much okay so we'll also
- 9:57be busting and debunking lawn
- 10:00care myths explaining whether no mo may actually
- 10:03helps biodiversity and asking the
- 10:06big big questions in lawn care like how do
- 10:09we even make lawns how do we even make lawns before
- 10:12mechanical mowers you know how did how did they even
- 10:15do melt lawns before they had mowers is plastic glass
- 10:18really a sustainable solution and what happens when geese badgers rabbits and
- 10:24even moles decide your turf is now theirs so we'll cover topics like wetting
- 10:28agents phosphites micronutrients compost teas and chitosan all those products
- 10:33you've seen for sale on social media and on websites and trade shows,
- 10:38we'll discuss the safety and science of glyphosate,
- 10:41or Roundup, what titanium and cobalt fertilisers really do, and whether blue
- 10:45pigments during droughts are just for show or serve a purpose.
- 10:49Not sure what kind of grass you should be using? Fescue, bromes, poa? We'll compare.
- 10:53I'm wondering if your soil is too acidic or too alkaline while diving into Soil
- 10:57Testing 101, structure, texture, and what organic matter really means in a practical sense.
- 11:02So our goal is simple make turf and lawn science
- 11:05accessible grounded in agronomy and genuinely
- 11:08useful whether you're maintaining a cricket square planning your
- 11:12first lawn renovation or wondering if that dandelion is
- 11:14about to take over your entire life this podcast is not sponsored fluff it's
- 11:19not about what to buy yes i work for a company that makes inputs but we'll keep
- 11:23it as independent as possible if you listen to any other podcasts you'll hear
- 11:27me say that don't use some of our products in certain situations and use other
- 11:31people's products when they're more appropriate.
- 11:33It's about how to think like a turf scientist really, so an academic turf scientist.
- 11:37Whether you're using drones, drag mats or just a spade and a dream, we're here for you.
- 11:42I'll have guests along the way, I'll have co-hosts and
- 11:46I won't be using Skype or any of
- 11:48the sort of interview techniques that involve the internet because I find that
- 11:52the sound quality is terrible and I want the sound to be as good as possible
- 11:56because I know a lot of people listen to podcasts in noisy vehicles like tractors
- 12:00and I don't want to burst your eardrums trying to listen to the audio if it's
- 12:05coming across a something like Skype.
- 12:07So please subscribe, follow or just bookmark this in your brain because Grass
- 12:13Me Up is about to become your go-to source for everything that matters under your feet.
- 12:17So also please share this with any
- 12:20of your other grass heads grass nerds turf
- 12:23turf turf heads that's probably a good one isn't it
- 12:26yeah and i know there are a lot of other turf based
- 12:29podcasts out there so hopefully we'll have a different take
- 12:32on them and certainly we will be publishing a lot more often than most podcasts
- 12:36so i'm a podcast addict so hopefully you are too so you'll be getting at least
- 12:41five a week that's the plan so we're diving into next week we'll probably dive
- 12:46into one of the simplest and most overlooked ways to transform your turf's appearance.
- 12:51Greening up with iron and foliar products. What works, what doesn't,
- 12:55and why colour isn't just cosmetic.
- 12:58So thanks for tuning in to Grasp Me Up. As I said, I'm Dr.
- 13:02Russell Sharp from Utrema, and I'll see you on the turf. Thank you very much. Goodbye.