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- 0:09Speaker 1: You're listening to a podcast from News Talks be follow
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- 0:17Speaker 2: Here The Dupless In New Zealand, Boss Rob Weis's new business, Recorp,
- 0:21Speaker 2: is set to open an aluminium can manufacturer in September. Today,
- 0:24Speaker 2: Recorp announced its first CEO, former House of Travel boss,
- 0:27Speaker 2: former and New Zealand executive Bruce Parton. Now, the plant
- 0:30Speaker 2: cost one hundred million bucks to build and it's going
- 0:32Speaker 2: to be able to churn out eighteen hundred and fifty
- 0:34Speaker 2: cans a minute. And Rob Fife is with us to
- 0:37Speaker 2: talk about this.
- 0:37Speaker 3: Hey Rob, Hey, Heather, how are you very well?
- 0:40Speaker 4: Thank you good to talk to you.
- 0:41Speaker 2: I mean, it sounds to me pretty amazing that you
- 0:43Speaker 2: guys managed to scratch together one hundred million bucks just
- 0:45Speaker 2: from New Zealand investors. Is it.
- 0:49Speaker 3: Well, I'll tell you what. It gives you a sense
- 0:51Speaker 3: of confidence that, you know, as tough as things are
- 0:53Speaker 3: out there, there's sort a bunch of people that really
- 0:56Speaker 3: believe in New Zealand and the opportunities here. So the
- 1:00Speaker 3: vast majority of that money came from six or seven people.
- 1:05Speaker 3: And you know, this industry today is dominated by couple
- 1:08Speaker 3: of Australian companies and they're just passionate about seeing the
- 1:12Speaker 3: benefits and the rewards in New Zealand.
- 1:14Speaker 2: Did I am I reading this correctly? That Anamobra who's
- 1:17Speaker 2: one of the investors that you've got there, wants to
- 1:19Speaker 2: get aluminum cans to basically steal market share of glass
- 1:23Speaker 2: and plastic.
- 1:24Speaker 4: Is that right?
- 1:25Speaker 3: Yeah? Absolutely? You know, if you look today glass in
- 1:30Speaker 3: terms of single single serve containers, glass makes up about
- 1:36Speaker 3: forty percent of the market. They weigh ten times more
- 1:40Speaker 3: than an aluminum container. There's obviously a whole lot more material, carbon,
- 1:44Speaker 3: fragile and so on. Plus we all know the issues
- 1:47Speaker 3: with plastic and they finally were into our waterways, our
- 1:50Speaker 3: food system and so on. So aliminem without doubt is
- 1:54Speaker 3: the fastest growing container type, and it's the one that's
- 1:58Speaker 3: the most food safe. The material is infinitely recyclable. The
- 2:04Speaker 3: story is an amazing story, and they say it's a
- 2:08Speaker 3: bunch of New Zealanders to get behind it and bring
- 2:10Speaker 3: it to life. Not for the faint hearted, This is
- 2:12Speaker 3: a this is a really big project.
- 2:15Speaker 4: Why do you say not for the faint hearted?
- 2:18Speaker 3: You know, to as you say, you know, there's one
- 2:21Speaker 3: hundred million being invested in this. The Bank of New
- 2:24Speaker 3: Zealand's got behind it with a big chunk of bank finance.
- 2:28Speaker 3: To spend that sort of money before you to your
- 2:31Speaker 3: first dollar of revenue, you need a lot of passionate
- 2:35Speaker 3: people that really believe in in a vision. And as
- 2:38Speaker 3: I say that, that certainly isn't for everyone, but you know,
- 2:40Speaker 3: we're very very committed.
- 2:42Speaker 2: Rob What am I getting at the moment in plastic
- 2:45Speaker 2: or glass that you would like me to get an aluminium.
- 2:48Speaker 3: Well, ultimately, I mean I've just come back from overseas.
- 2:52Speaker 3: You know, water now around the world is all moving
- 2:55Speaker 3: into aluminium, a combination of both aluminum cans as we
- 3:00Speaker 3: think of them today and also screw top or resealable
- 3:04Speaker 3: alimeneum bottles. So many, particularly news but also a lot
- 3:09Speaker 3: of hospitality venues are just banning plastic bottles and toto
- 3:15Speaker 3: so water is a big one. Soft drinks are glass
- 3:18Speaker 3: now overseas you're seeing glass sorry, beer is moving more
- 3:22Speaker 3: and more away from glass into aluminium, both again cans
- 3:27Speaker 3: and aluminium bottles. At the moment, you know, there's no
- 3:30Speaker 3: alumineum bottles made in this part of the world at all.
- 3:32Speaker 3: And that's certainly on our roadmap to bring alumineum beer
- 3:37Speaker 3: bottles and water bottles into this market.
- 3:39Speaker 2: I feel weird about that because I feel like I
- 3:42Speaker 2: feel like screwing it would sort of like let little
- 3:45Speaker 2: bits of metal into my drink. Am I just is
- 3:47Speaker 2: it I'm overthinking.
- 3:48Speaker 3: In I definitely am overthinking it. So not that I
- 3:54Speaker 3: accused you of overthinking, but it's you know, alumineum in
- 4:00Speaker 3: terms of in the food system, in the body. You
- 4:03Speaker 3: know it's not a good thing, but the alumineum that
- 4:05Speaker 3: comes into our food source doesn't come out of containers
- 4:09Speaker 3: or alimineum in that state it's very very stable and
- 4:12Speaker 3: you know, don't flake off and so on. Aliminium comes
- 4:15Speaker 3: in through various foods and minerals and our souls and
- 4:18Speaker 3: that sort of thing. That's the biggest risk of alimineum
- 4:21Speaker 3: into our diet. Alimenem bottle or containers absolutely safe.
- 4:26Speaker 4: So Bruce Parton, you'll have worked with him at a
- 4:28Speaker 4: New Zealand.
- 4:28Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 4:29Speaker 3: Yeah, I've worked with Bruce for twenty years, so you know,
- 4:34Speaker 3: we've got a great relationship, very very passionate. It's not
- 4:37Speaker 3: like we're trying to create a New Zealand old boy network.
- 4:41Speaker 3: But you know, working with people you really don't trust.
- 4:44Speaker 3: I think Chris is a bit busy at the moment,
- 4:45Speaker 3: but yeah, you know, I'm really I love working with
- 4:51Speaker 3: people who I know can deliver the results, and Bruce
- 4:53Speaker 3: is definitely one of those.
- 4:54Speaker 4: What do you like about him?
- 4:55Speaker 2: I think I saw somewhere that you were quoted as
- 4:56Speaker 2: saying he learns, he takes not necessarily criticism, but he
- 5:01Speaker 2: takes direction.
- 5:04Speaker 3: No, no, he takes criticism really well. I mean I
- 5:09Speaker 3: made a comment that you know, I mentor a lot
- 5:12Speaker 3: of young, up and coming entrepreneurs and one of the
- 5:16Speaker 3: things I'm always saying to these, to these focus you know,
- 5:20Speaker 3: the people that learn the most, that grow the fastest,
- 5:24Speaker 3: that achieve the most, are the people that make it
- 5:26Speaker 3: the easiest to give feedback to because are the ones.
- 5:29Speaker 3: You know, if a're too defensive, then you're a little reserved.
- 5:32Speaker 3: And what you say to them, Bruce, you can give
- 5:34Speaker 3: it straight between the eyes and varna exactly what you think.
- 5:38Speaker 3: He just soaks it up. He listens, he considers, he responds,
- 5:42Speaker 3: and the adepts and he's just one of the most
- 5:45Speaker 3: adaptable people I know and that's I guess one of
- 5:48Speaker 3: the reasons he because your feedback exactly back the other way.
- 5:52Speaker 3: So we have a really really strong relationship. Can be
- 5:55Speaker 3: a bit sporty at times, but that's how you create
- 5:58Speaker 3: healthy outcomes and great rob.
- 6:00Speaker 2: Give me your take on right, you've been overseas, as
- 6:02Speaker 2: you say, give me your take on coming back to
- 6:04Speaker 2: New Zealand.
- 6:04Speaker 4: What's the mood like here? It feels like it might
- 6:06Speaker 4: be a little gloomy.
- 6:09Speaker 3: You know, it does feel gloomy, and it does feel
- 6:12Speaker 3: at the moment very introspective. You know, I've just come
- 6:18Speaker 3: back as in London. In London, you would argue or
- 6:23Speaker 3: the UK definitely has many of the issues that we have,
- 6:28Speaker 3: some of them even worse and more amplified than our
- 6:31Speaker 3: So the crime on the streets in London is deeply,
- 6:34Speaker 3: deeply concerning. Yet when you go out and have dinner
- 6:39Speaker 3: with people or you're socializing with people, no one seems
- 6:42Speaker 3: to be as consumed by all those issues as we
- 6:46Speaker 3: get here in New Zealand, and we're talking about you know,
- 6:49Speaker 3: what's around the corner, the upside, the possibilities, you know,
- 6:52Speaker 3: and the opportunities, and it's it's just a mindset that
- 6:55Speaker 3: doesn't allow them to get so consumed by the to
- 7:00Speaker 3: say that, you know, the stuff that we seem to
- 7:03Speaker 3: just allow us to drag away from the great possibilities
- 7:06Speaker 3: and opportunities for this for this country. So I'm sitting
- 7:10Speaker 3: outside New Zealand, I get more optimistic about New Zealand,
- 7:13Speaker 3: and I feel it's ourselves and our mindset that's the
- 7:17Speaker 3: biggest constraint on the possibilities for this country. Nothing that's
- 7:20Speaker 3: structurally wrong about this company country, or nothing that's politically
- 7:24Speaker 3: constraining us about this country and a great country, really
- 7:27Speaker 3: talented people. We just have to get that self belief
- 7:30Speaker 3: in a bit of mojo back.
- 7:32Speaker 4: I think there's some good advice in that. Rob, thank you.
- 7:34Speaker 2: I really appreciate it's nice to have you back in
- 7:35Speaker 2: the country doing great things. It's Rob five, Chairman of recour.
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