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Happy Hour #175: Gardening and Health · Stuff Mom Never Told You

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  Speaker 1: Hey, this is Annie and Samantha. Welcome to stuff I
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  Speaker 1: never told you aplecture if I heard.
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  Speaker 2: You, And welcome to another edition of a happy hour.
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  Speaker 2: But today it's going to be a happy happy hour
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  Speaker 2: and not an unhappy hour or a bit in wine,
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  Speaker 2: which I love.
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  Speaker 3: We'll come back to that cinema, I'm pretty.
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  Speaker 2: Sure, but for today, if you are participating in happy
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  Speaker 2: hour activities, do so responsibly.
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  Speaker 3: Do everything responsibly. Take care of yourself. We need you.
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  Speaker 2: Currently not sponsored by any of the things that I mentioned.
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  Speaker 2: I feel like some of these things should be sponsoring us.
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  Speaker 2: That way, how do we get Costco as a sponsorship? Like,
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  Speaker 2: come on, I need a hot dog?
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  Speaker 3: Anyway?
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  Speaker 2: Moving on, So, I wanted to talk about a new
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  Speaker 2: found joy that I have had as of recent and
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  Speaker 2: it's me dabbling into the gardening world, which I feel
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  Speaker 2: like I've mentioned previously because I am very excited that
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  Speaker 2: I have produced tomatoes and have eaten some said tomatoes.
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  Speaker 2: I have produced jilapenos, and I have eaten these kialapennos
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  Speaker 2: and they're coming in and they're growing, and watching them
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  Speaker 2: grow is one of the most exciting things that I
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  Speaker 2: think have happened, that I actually enjoy. And you know,
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  Speaker 2: I've been on the quest for hobbies for a long time, which,
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  Speaker 2: by the way, I just watched okay drama with this
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  Speaker 2: one girl who is like a workaholic and loves her
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  Speaker 2: work but realize she needs to calm down and tries
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  Speaker 2: to find hobbies and can't find a one and it's
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  Speaker 2: frustrated that she's not great at something. And I'm like,
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  Speaker 2: I can relate. But at the same time, I'm not
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  Speaker 2: a workaholic, Like I don't even have that as an excuse,
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  Speaker 2: but whatever. But with that, so, I have talked about
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  Speaker 2: the fact that I have killed plants. I kill many
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  Speaker 2: of plants, burns more succulents, other things. Anyway, but this
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  Speaker 2: time around, I'm like, you know, what the world is ending,
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  Speaker 2: Maybe I should prep with some some foods and see
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  Speaker 2: how far I can go with this. And I Caroline,
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  Speaker 2: you know previous hosts, her and her partner are gardening themes,
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  Speaker 2: like they have so much that they have done a
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  Speaker 2: CSA for some close friends and I'm like, what in
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  Speaker 2: the world. And they are amazing. They've got greenhouses, they've
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  Speaker 2: got let us, they've got all kinds of kale and
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  Speaker 2: all like they are doing things, and like I'm very
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  Speaker 2: like cool, that's cool for you.
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  Speaker 3: I'm a watch And.
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  Speaker 2: Caroline has always been a plant person, like her house
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  Speaker 2: during the pandemic was like a jungle and she was
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  Speaker 2: thriving on talking about these plants. And I just stared
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  Speaker 2: at her and nod and was like, what what we
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  Speaker 2: are in two different worlds? We're not But all of that,
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  Speaker 2: I say, so I'm currently doing. And I have said
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  Speaker 2: I have been really successful because I know you've been
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  Speaker 2: really successful with your sashetos.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, yes, but yes, but them too quickly.
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  Speaker 2: But yes, we got to enjoy things. But like I've
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  Speaker 2: been really successful with basil for the most part. Like
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  Speaker 2: I had someone when I lived in my apartment and
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  Speaker 2: they died when I went on vacation for a week
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  Speaker 2: and my neighbor kind of forgot about them. When I
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  Speaker 2: was very sad about this because I was doing great
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  Speaker 2: and I named I named my plants. Can't help it.
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  Speaker 2: But one of the things we got some basil recently.
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  Speaker 2: My partner is better at it than me, I think
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  Speaker 2: when it comes to like gardening and understanding what needs
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  Speaker 2: what and soils, but he's not better at remembering to
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  Speaker 2: like that they are there. Yeah, it kind of forgets,
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  Speaker 2: but he's great when he's on it. So we're a
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  Speaker 2: good team, I think in that way. But so he's
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  Speaker 2: been like he will put things out. Are easy, green onions.
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  Speaker 2: We've got tons of green onions if you need those.
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  Speaker 2: I have a basil plant that I got, I want
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  Speaker 2: to say, at a grocery store that looked pretty good,
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  Speaker 2: and so I decided to go ahead and plant it.
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  Speaker 3: And it is huge.
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  Speaker 2: Even though the bugs are eating it, it's getting big.
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  Speaker 2: So I am like cutting it up and then I'm propagating.
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  Speaker 2: So I don't this joy of propagating, y'all. I was like, yes,
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  Speaker 2: look at the roads, look at those roots, even to
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  Speaker 2: the point that I went on vacation in anti dog
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  Speaker 2: set and I was like, hey, I needed to make sure.
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  Speaker 3: The water is always full. That's all I care about it.
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  Speaker 3: Don't need to be anywhere else.
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  Speaker 2: Like that was part of the responsibilities that I put
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  Speaker 2: on her checklist.
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  Speaker 3: Need it good, thank you.
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  Speaker 2: And so then I've planted those and they are all
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  Speaker 2: but one, so about like five I think have art thriving.
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  Speaker 2: One decided it did not like it, and it's kind
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  Speaker 2: of like all brown and crusty, but it is okay
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  Speaker 2: because I have more than I have art thriving, and
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  Speaker 2: I'm very very excited. And so now all I'm doing
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  Speaker 2: is propagating basil plants. I am very excited about because
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm have them everywhere.
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  Speaker 3: Which I love.
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  Speaker 2: Basil probably is one of my favorite like herbs, like
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  Speaker 2: it is definitely top two, top two lemongrasses up there too.
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  Speaker 2: I don't use it often, but when I eat it,
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  Speaker 2: it's so good. It makes me so happy. You know,
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  Speaker 2: we have rosemary and we have time as well. We've
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  Speaker 2: kind of had bad luck with rosemary, but like it's
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  Speaker 2: now catching on. Like my partner had one that he
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  Speaker 2: propagated from a brewery and it grew, but like when
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  Speaker 2: we moved or when it has heat like heat waves,
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  Speaker 2: which we've had, it's been bad this week, all of
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  Speaker 2: those things it did not survive. That we finally got
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  Speaker 2: one that's going there. It's getting there. And with that,
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  Speaker 2: Costco had a lot of their gardening section up because
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  Speaker 2: you know, they do a lot of seasonal stuff, and
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  Speaker 2: they had tomato plants and peppers and we were like,
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  Speaker 2: you know what, we're gonna try this.
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  Speaker 3: We're gonna try this. I think I want to test it.
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  Speaker 2: So my partner got a small like tub looking thing
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  Speaker 2: that's for garden and we have to put it in
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  Speaker 2: the front because that's where the most sunlight is.
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  Speaker 3: And y'all, the bell peppers are.
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  Speaker 2: Adorable and they're growing. My halipanios are growing. Each one
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  Speaker 2: of them are thriving. Like for a minute, it was
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  Speaker 2: kind of touch and go because I think we waited
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  Speaker 2: a little too long to actually put them in the
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  Speaker 2: garden bed, Like we had them in their little container
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  Speaker 2: and it was not enough and we were gone. I
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  Speaker 2: think I made you water those, didn't I, or at
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  Speaker 2: least make sure they are okay? Yeah, when it was
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  Speaker 2: not in the garden yet. But they have produced some fruit.
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  Speaker 2: I have been very excited. I've been watching out for
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  Speaker 2: birds like I'm about to fight some birds. I'm gonna
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  Speaker 2: fight them. I'm a fighter book, I'm gonna fight them.
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  Speaker 2: And you know, like it just kind of came back
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  Speaker 2: to like my thought process of like, you know, maybe
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  Speaker 2: this is I mean, I've always heard that this is
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  Speaker 2: rewarding and therapeutic. And actually when I was working with
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  Speaker 2: at ristines or juveniles, we would take them to plant
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  Speaker 2: things and have them go to gardens and we would
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  Speaker 2: have them do like community service and gardens and planting trees, and.
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  Speaker 3: They loved I actually really loved these activities.
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  Speaker 2: Like as much as they would grown and complain about
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  Speaker 2: being hot and don't want to be there when they were.
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  Speaker 3: They loved it.
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  Speaker 2: I had kids who were like the hardest kids that
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  Speaker 2: were talking about, you know, the gain activity they were
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  Speaker 2: part of, asking about the trees that they planted, like
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  Speaker 2: wanting pictures, and those that like I forgot how amazing
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  Speaker 2: that is that it really was a great time for
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  Speaker 2: me to bond with them, for them to see that
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  Speaker 2: I'm not just being here that dorky adult telling you
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  Speaker 2: lies about the future, and they really like actually participated
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  Speaker 2: and enjoyed having those moments and being able to do
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  Speaker 2: something different. And I decided I wanted to go and
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  Speaker 2: look through and see all of the benefits, because you know,
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  Speaker 2: every now and again in happy hours, we decided we
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  Speaker 2: want to research lightly, very lightly, just a few things,
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  Speaker 2: and actually one popped up, which was a study titled
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  Speaker 2: Gardening for Help, A Regular Dose of Gardening by Richard Thompson.
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  Speaker 2: And this is intensive gardening. This is what again Caroline
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  Speaker 2: and her partner do not me, like I'm fairly out there,
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  Speaker 2: but like still love this moment. But they say it
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  Speaker 2: combines physical activity with social interaction, exposure to nature and sunlight.
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  Speaker 2: Sunlight lowers blood pressure as well as increasing vitamin D
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  Speaker 2: levels in the summer, and the fruit and vegetables that
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  Speaker 2: are produced have positive impact on the diet. Working in
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  Speaker 2: the garden resource dexterity and strength, and the aerobic exercise
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  Speaker 2: that is involved can easily use the same number of
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  Speaker 2: calories as might be expended in a gymg Raking and
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  Speaker 2: mowing are particularly calorie intense. There's a gem outside mini
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  Speaker 2: a window. The social interaction provided by communal and therapeutic
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  Speaker 2: garden projects for those with learning disabilities and poor mental
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  Speaker 2: help can counteract social isolation. Furthermore, it has also been
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  Speaker 2: reported that the social benefits of such projects can delay
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  Speaker 2: the symptoms of dementia, an effect that might be partly
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  Speaker 2: due to the beneficial effects of exercise. So, you know,
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  Speaker 2: like they are talking about this as a therapeutic level,
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  Speaker 2: and a lot of the studies that I've seen are
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  Speaker 2: talking about how different like health facilities and institutions have
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  Speaker 2: been using this and implementing this as a part of
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  Speaker 2: their process that it is called horticultural therapy, and I
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  Speaker 2: was like, that makes so much sense. And of course
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  Speaker 2: there were some more stuff like Mayo Clinics health systems
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  Speaker 2: talk about how to start a garden. They talk about
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  Speaker 2: how routines provide structure to our day are linked to
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  Speaker 2: improve mental health, like the watering, weeding is like soothing rhythmic.
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  Speaker 3: Ease to stress.
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  Speaker 2: And I will say there's something like satisfying and pulling
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  Speaker 2: the roots of weed. I've had battles in our backyard
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  Speaker 2: with the pine trees that are trying to grow their
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  Speaker 2: baby pine trees. They smell delicious and they're kind of cute.
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  Speaker 2: But I'm like, no, I just make thousands of dollars
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  Speaker 2: to get rid of a phoebia because you were like
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  Speaker 2: at a danger to my house. So I would go
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  Speaker 2: through like rip them up and pulling them out, but
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  Speaker 2: with all root and all m M.
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  Speaker 3: A little bit a little bit violent, but also very satisfying. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: very satisfying.
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  Speaker 2: If you do want to start a garden. I have
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  Speaker 2: a feeling most of our listeners are like, Samantha, where
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  Speaker 2: have you been? Why have you not done this previously?
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  Speaker 3: Come on?
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  Speaker 2: But if you are a novice like me and thinking
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  Speaker 2: about it because again, I've killed so many plants, and
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  Speaker 2: this is a little bit worrisome, you know, because if
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  Speaker 2: I fail.
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  Speaker 3: I'm gonna be really hurt. I'm gonna be really hurt,
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  Speaker 3: you know.
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  Speaker 2: But the Mayo Clinic dots talk about how to start
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  Speaker 2: one They say start small, and yes, I did start small.
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  Speaker 2: They're small with just a few plants, easy plants. I
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  Speaker 2: feel like tomatoes and the peppers are the you know,
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  Speaker 2: the essential beginnings. Right then they say build a network,
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  Speaker 2: find people who are interested in gardening. I'm not ready
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  Speaker 2: for that yet. We don't need people to tell me
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  Speaker 2: what I'm doing wrong yet yet. If I decided we
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  Speaker 2: want to take a whole plot out, we'll have a conversation.
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  Speaker 2: I feel like, if Caroline and her partner give me advice, sure, sure, sure,
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  Speaker 2: but right I'm not networking for.
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  Speaker 3: Gardening friends yet.
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  Speaker 2: If our listeners have advice, I will take that too,
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  Speaker 2: because I feel like they are trusted resource strangers. Nah listeners,
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  Speaker 2: and who are my friends? Yeah, okay, I'll take that,
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  Speaker 2: says research appropriate plants. And that's the other part to
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  Speaker 2: this is I've been really really talking about like having
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  Speaker 2: native plants in the area that you're at that is
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  Speaker 2: in for your zone. Like that is such a common
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  Speaker 2: conversation that I'm like, oh, that makes sense. And as
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  Speaker 2: with climate change, things have changed and therefore maybe different
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  Speaker 2: plants can now grow here. Like we talk about wines
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  Speaker 2: and I'm a little leary of sometimes like grapes and
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  Speaker 2: wines here because I'm like, we're not really built for that,
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  Speaker 2: but maybe now we are.
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  Speaker 3: Who knew? But with that, Yeah, it's like also.
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  Speaker 2: Being conscientious of the environment if we because again gardening
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  Speaker 2: I'm not quite there yet to like flowers and like
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  Speaker 2: blooms and such, but in the understanding that native plants
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  Speaker 2: are important to be here. That's also talking about conservation.
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  Speaker 2: You know, there's now a new debate I feel like
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  Speaker 2: it's been happening for the last ten years, but about
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  Speaker 2: you know, lawns and whether or not lawns are beneficial
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  Speaker 2: to the environment Boiler alert Apparently not. But at the
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  Speaker 2: same time we have white supremacy. It was like, no,
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  Speaker 2: but it looks better and we like it, so you
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  Speaker 2: can't do native plants and lots.
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  Speaker 3: Of wildlife like that.
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  Speaker 2: That. Yeah, that's my voice for hoas, which I'm not
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  Speaker 2: a part of because I'm not a fan. But all
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  Speaker 2: of that to say is I think, like that's something
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  Speaker 2: that we've been talking about. My partners really into that
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  Speaker 2: really wishes that he didn't He loves a good like
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  Speaker 2: mow lawn, Like there's something like satisfying to see crisply
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  Speaker 2: mode lawn with.
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  Speaker 3: That smell of grass.
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  Speaker 2: But understanding that we also want to help the environment,
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  Speaker 2: create a welcoming environment for the species that are a
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  Speaker 2: dying out, that have been here, should be here, who
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  Speaker 2: have been here to help out the ecosystem.
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  Speaker 3: Blah blah blah I.
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  Speaker 2: Say, blah blah blah blah, and like this lot of
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  Speaker 2: big conversation, but also realizing that that's something that we
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  Speaker 2: need to be researching as well. So that is something
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  Speaker 2: that I do have in the back of my head.
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  Speaker 2: I have a feeling we have some listeners to be like,
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  Speaker 2: be careful. And of course with that, we also wanted
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  Speaker 2: to talk a little more about the impacts in the
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  Speaker 2: health outcomes. I talk about reduced symptoms of depression and anxiety,
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  Speaker 2: decrease in reporting stress and mood disturbances, decrease in BMI,
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  Speaker 2: which whatever hire a reported sense of community. Thank you
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  Speaker 2: Healthymindsphilly dot org and improved cognitive function. So they add that,
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  Speaker 2: and again they talk about horticultural therapy and how using
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  Speaker 2: gardening is a maze to facilitate.
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  Speaker 3: Dialogue and skill building.
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  Speaker 2: And I think that's really important too, like we're able
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  Speaker 2: to like survive maybe recognize. I've I've found out that
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  Speaker 2: some of the weeds in my backyard are called pork greens.
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  Speaker 2: I thought they were weeds, but my neighbor, we love
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  Speaker 2: our neighbor was like that people take that and you know,
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  Speaker 2: make that into like collar greens. I was like, like collars,
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  Speaker 2: cook them like collar greens. And I was like, I
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  Speaker 2: love collared greens. What so that might be an adventure
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  Speaker 2: that I have to try. Yeah, But of course, like
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  Speaker 2: when it comes to weeds that we find in the backyard,
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  Speaker 2: I'm really kind of weary because I don't know much
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  Speaker 2: about planets that I'm like, I don't want to end
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  Speaker 2: up into the wild, you know what I'm.
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  Speaker 1: Saying, Well, wandering into the woods alone, at least be
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  Speaker 1: at your house and hopefully hopefully your partner will find
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  Speaker 1: you and be like, no, get you up.
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  Speaker 3: That's true.
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  Speaker 2: I'm gonna be call Annie and be like, I'm gonna
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  Speaker 2: eat this check on me.
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  Speaker 3: In an hour.
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  Speaker 2: I'm just kidding, but yeah, like binding stuff like that
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  Speaker 2: is pretty interesting to me, and I feel like learning
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  Speaker 2: these things and being able to survive just in cases
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  Speaker 2: we have blackberries in that backyard. Was very excited about
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  Speaker 2: that too. Again, it talks about reduced mental fatigue, lower stress,
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  Speaker 2: better protection against illnesses, and overall feeling better with your health.
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  Speaker 2: And I could see a lot of that. So yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I am. And you've got me a little journal. It
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  Speaker 2: did to go into this, so I'm about to pull
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  Speaker 2: it out and like talk about my progression, y'all. I'm
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  Speaker 2: excited the peppers and you're gonna come over this.
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  Speaker 3: Week and I hope to show it off. But they're
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  Speaker 3: they're cute.
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  Speaker 1: I love friends who have gardens, and I especially love
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  Speaker 1: when they give the fresh produce.
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  Speaker 3: A lot of basil.
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  Speaker 4: I had got so much basil.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I love it. I always amusing it. Today
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  Speaker 1: I had a capraise salad.
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  Speaker 2: Ooh yeah, last time you came over, you're like basil
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  Speaker 2: as I just get in the garden.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, did you got it in the garden?
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  Speaker 4: No?
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  Speaker 1: Because I had some already and I needed to use
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  Speaker 1: that if I hadn't guy, use the sum that I
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  Speaker 1: brought with me, use what I brought with me, then
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  Speaker 1: I would have trust me. Next time, I like to
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  Speaker 1: add it to my ramen. I like to make like
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  Speaker 1: a kind of faux fuh situation.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, the babel comes in clutch on that for sure.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, m hmmm. So yes, I'm very excited about this too.
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  Speaker 1: I'm very happy. I love tomatoes, I love peppers. This
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  Speaker 1: is all exciting, so I'm very glad to get this update.
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  Speaker 1: It is also kind of funny to me because my
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  Speaker 1: mom my mom both has a friend who grows so
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  Speaker 1: much produce that every time I see her, she gives
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  Speaker 1: me some and it's a ridiculous amount of produce.
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  Speaker 4: I can't even like you open her her little.
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  Speaker 1: Fridge box and it's not just it's just collar greens
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  Speaker 1: and bags frozen. Yeah, I mean, it's amazing, it's amazing.
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  Speaker 1: It's amazing. But she she doesn't really grow produce. She
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  Speaker 1: has some herbs, but she has a huge garden of flowers.
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  Speaker 1: And it's funny to me because she grumbles about it
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  Speaker 1: because it's hot where we are and it takes her
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  Speaker 1: like an hour to water all of them. But I
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  Speaker 1: can tell she kind of you know, it's it's a thing.
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: Like you said, it's every night I got to go
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: out and do this.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, unless it's rained.
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  Speaker 2: It's so hot it vaporates so quickly right now. Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I mean I think that's the benefit to that.
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  Speaker 3: Like I my mother loves a garden and is very
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: proud of it.
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  Speaker 2: She also like she grumbles about it because she is
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: hurting a little bit, but at the same time she
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: can'not not do it, Like it's kind of a pride thing,
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: and it's gorgeous. Like every time I come out there,
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: it feels like I'm going through a faeryland.
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, my mom's is too, And I think it does
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: add like a if you care about your plants, it's
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: harder to as opposed to a workout.
• 17:56
  Speaker 4: Maybe yeah, it's harder to kind of skip on it
• 18:00
  Speaker 4: don't have to die. Yeah yeah, like, yeah, I don't
• 18:04
  Speaker 4: want it to die.
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: So the plant pair thing got huge in.
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  Speaker 3: The last day.
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  Speaker 4: It really did.
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  Speaker 1: Uh.
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  Speaker 4: It is sad when one died.
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: I had a really good basil plant that lasted me
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: for years and then one day, I have my feelings
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: aunts just.
• 18:17
  Speaker 4: Came in and killed it and I was like, why.
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it hurt's my feelings.
• 18:23
  Speaker 4: It is said, well hopefully best of black.
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: Yes, I got a lot more now.
• 18:29
  Speaker 4: I'm very excited to see it next time we hang out.
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: But listeners, please, yes, let us know if you have
• 18:35
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• 18:38
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• 18:58
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