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Drool Tech vs Tool Tech · Gospel Tech with Nathan Sutherland

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  Speaker 1: Purposely. Your life, God's purpose. Listen at purposely.com. Gospel Tech
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  Speaker 1: FAQs with Nathan Sutherland and Mark Holland.
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  Speaker 2: And time again for another edition of Gospel Tech FAQs.
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  Speaker 2: Mark Holland joining Nathan Sutherland. He's the Gospel Tech guy.
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  Speaker 2: His program, Gospel Tech, you can find long-form programs, many
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  Speaker 2: subjects that he deals with. But Nathan, you wanted to
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  Speaker 2: kind of zoom out, as you say, a little bit
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  Speaker 2: on this subject of kids, grandkids, and tech. And what
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  Speaker 2: do you mean by zoom out? You want to get
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  Speaker 2: people to think in a more broad sense about is
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  Speaker 2: what is tech and how do we use it?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: To address one of the questions that was foundational for
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  Speaker 3: even starting this ministry, when parents would come to me
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  Speaker 3: and say, well, it has a screen. So like, how
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  Speaker 3: can I make sure my kid doesn't use it? Or,
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  Speaker 3: you know what, this is no different than that other technology.
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  Speaker 3: My kid's playing video games, but that's no different than
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  Speaker 3: reading a book on a Kindle. And That was stumping
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  Speaker 3: me for a long time, especially as a teacher. I'm like, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: but I can watch it be different. I just don't
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  Speaker 3: know why, and I don't see the research. And I
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  Speaker 3: have found, through the Lord's faithfulness, a phrase that really
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  Speaker 3: helps us clarify this. We call the two kinds of
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  Speaker 3: tech that exist in this world when it comes to
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  Speaker 3: digital technology tool tech, which is tech that helps us create,
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  Speaker 3: and drool tech, which is tech that helps us consume. Okay.
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  Speaker 3: And it's not good tech and bad tech, but they
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  Speaker 3: are designed differently. And if we think of examples, we
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  Speaker 3: think of Microsoft Word. No one has ever, when putting
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  Speaker 3: your phone, which I like to call a $ 1, 000 alarm clock,
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  Speaker 3: on your bed stand, no one's ever gotten a notification
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  Speaker 3: and clicked on it. And it said, hey, haven't seen
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  Speaker 3: you in a while. And it's Microsoft Word. And it says,
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  Speaker 3: I thought maybe we could write a haiku together. Like
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  Speaker 3: Microsoft Word doesn't do that. It does not say, hey,
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  Speaker 3: I noticed that you're writing your book, but someone down
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  Speaker 3: the street already wrote his book and it's way better
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  Speaker 3: than yours. Here's an excerpt. So you feel terrible about yourself.
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  Speaker 3: Like it does not engage in that way. It will
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  Speaker 3: help you write. It will help you edit. It will
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  Speaker 3: help you share. It will help you save. And then
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  Speaker 3: it will wait days, weeks, months. Like Microsoft Word will
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  Speaker 3: not follow up with you. It doesn't set a word
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  Speaker 3: limit where you've written 10,000 words, but for 195, You
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  Speaker 3: can get the premium version. Like, it's just a tool.
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  Speaker 3: If you want to dig a hole with words, it
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  Speaker 3: will help you do that. Compare that to something else
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  Speaker 3: that's great but designed very differently would be YouTube. I
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  Speaker 3: like YouTube. This content's probably on YouTube.
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  Speaker 1: It's wonderful.
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  Speaker 3: It's great for both reaching people and for just enjoyment.
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  Speaker 3: And yet, it's designed differently. It is designed to take
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  Speaker 3: your time, your focus, your money. YouTube has two and
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  Speaker 3: a half billion monthly users. If they were able to
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  Speaker 3: get just one out of 10 viewers to stay for
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  Speaker 3: 60 extra seconds, they'd get 173,000 days of additional viewing.
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  Speaker 3: That's a lot of motivation for a company that's built
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  Speaker 3: around engagement. So what do we see that that's the
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  Speaker 3: suggested bar and it's so, so good. Uh, the last
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  Speaker 3: time YouTube told us how many people clicked on their
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  Speaker 3: suggested bar was 2016 and it wasn't one in 10
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  Speaker 3: or four in 10. They said that seven in ten
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  Speaker 3: viewers showed up to watch a video on purpose that
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  Speaker 3: they'd searched and stayed to watch another video that was suggested.
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  Speaker 3: Seven in ten out of two and a half billion
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  Speaker 3: is a whole lot of viewing time. That's how they
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  Speaker 3: make their hay.
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  Speaker 2: I'm finding that's happening with me.
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  Speaker 3: I've just started getting into YouTube. The algorithm is so good.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, if you like this subject, you'll love this subject.
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  Speaker 3: It's beautiful because unlike TikTok, whose algorithm is just to
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  Speaker 3: push you to the extremes for engagement, YouTube does a
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  Speaker 3: great job of giving you content. You're like, it's like Costco. Like,
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  Speaker 3: I didn't even know I wanted that. But now I
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  Speaker 3: see it and I absolutely want to know how that
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  Speaker 3: squirrel got through that maze. Like, show me that. How
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  Speaker 3: would I have ever searched for this content? So YouTube
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  Speaker 3: is great at it, but that is engagement. And when
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  Speaker 3: we're talking about young people and young minds, technology that
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  Speaker 3: is designed to keep your eyes on screens can be
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  Speaker 3: hard to put down. It's way different than your Kindle. Sure,
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  Speaker 3: there's blue light. Sure, there's time on screens that is
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  Speaker 3: unhealthy and we need to think about in terms of
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  Speaker 3: just habits and heart issues. But then there's tech that's
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  Speaker 3: designed to help you build bad habits. And we just
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  Speaker 3: want to be intentional with that. Tool tech helps us create.
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  Speaker 3: Drill tech helps us consume. Let's assess what tech we're using.
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  Speaker 3: And if we're having a fight about tech, there's a
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  Speaker 3: good chance it's more on the YouTube side and not
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  Speaker 3: on the Microsoft Word side.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, tool tech versus drill tech. Who would have thought?
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  Speaker 2: But those are the kinds of things that... Nathan Sutherland
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  Speaker 2: thinks about in his wonderful ministry, gospel tech, uh, parents, grandparents,
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  Speaker 2: you will enjoy this resource for you navigating this, uh,
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  Speaker 2: increasingly complex world of tech and how your, how you
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  Speaker 2: use tech. I mean, as you're talking about YouTube, I
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  Speaker 2: can see myself on that. So, uh, find out more. Uh,
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  Speaker 2: you can look at his programs there on YouTube. Also our, uh,
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  Speaker 2: our network, Purposely.com. Of course, you can hear his long-form
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  Speaker 2: program on KCIS Saturday mornings. Gospel Tech guy Nathan Sutherland,
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  Speaker 2: and this is FAQs.
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  Speaker 1: You can hear the Gospel Tech long-form program with Nathan
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  Speaker 1: Sutherland at Purposely.com and Saturday mornings at 8 on KCIS.