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Show 48: The proper Catholic attitude toward Food · The Uncensored Catholic

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Hey, y'all, welcome today's show. We're gonna get into a really well
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it's been a topic of great interest to me, or I should say a
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copy of great difficulty to me. And it has to do with the proper
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relationship that a faithful Catholic should have to food. While I am not what
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one might call glutton, I am a foodie beyond a doubt. Being essentially
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half French and an avid cook, made a good bit of my living cooking
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and writing about food. I love food, and Father's Barago said something that
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kind of threw me for a loop. And let's take a lot of thought,
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and I think I'm come to the right conclusion. We'll get to that
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in a minute. But you know, I like to start at the show
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with a couple of questions and answers from the classic nineteen thirties book Radio Replies,
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in which people would write in and ask the priest's questions, mainly non
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Catholics and atheists challenging them. And this gets into well, we'll spend a
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few days on this, just you know, a couple of questions and answers
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each show about one of the probably the biggest issues that non Christians have with
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the idea of a man, a benevolent God. Why would God allow evil?
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Well, it's just a deep topic, and it's probably worthy of a
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series of shows. But some things are better taken in small bites. I
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guess we would say. I think fathers Barago would appreciate that. Let's see,
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someone wrote in and said, what becomes of God when you think of
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the misery and starvation in the world. The answer is, we have already
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seen that there is a God, that they had already discussed that. In
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other words, inability to comprehend every detail in the universe does not prove that
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there is no God, but merely the limited capacity of the finite human mind.
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However, the human mind can propose certain principles which go a long way
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towards the removal of difficulties. Firstly, evil is really the negation or privation
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of good, and if there is evil in the world, there is also
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much good that can be accounted for only by the existence of God. Secondly,
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the fluctuations of the mutable life cannot affect God's existence. I mean that
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you cannot have a God when things seem to be all right and annihilate him
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when things seem to go wrong. If God exists before all things go wrong,
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he still exists when unhappiness. He still exists despite the unhappiness of the
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individual, and note the word individual. Reviewing the races as a whole,
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we find that life is a mixture of comfortable and uncomfortable things. When we
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are happy, others are suffering. When we are suffering, others are happy.
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And we cannot say that God is existing merely for the happiness of one
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and simultaneously not existing for the unhappy unhappy ones. We must not take local
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and individual views only, but a universal outlook. Thirdly, and particularly as
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regards to the uneven distribution of this world's goods with the consequent starvation for some,
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God's providence has not failed. Man's administration is at fault. Whilst individuals
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suffer. Want we know that the world has produced enough wheat, fruit,
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meat, and wool to feed and clothe everyone. God has not failed to
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provide enough to fill every mouth. But He has given the world over to
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the administ administration of men, and as their bad management they must conrect,
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rather than to blame God. At least their incapable administration could teach them a
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saving grace of humility. How true is that if there is one lesson we
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can learn from the nineteenth century, the nations that rejected Catholicism particularly and Christianity
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in general, especially the Communists, were responsible for more than two hundred million
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deaths of innocent people. You think about the starvation of the Ukrainians of the
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Soviet Union, or the starvation and mass abortions in communist China, the constant
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poverty and want in communist Cuba, where men said they knew better than God
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and could better at minister to the wants of humanity. It's never worked.
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It will never work. It doesn't matter if as a communist or a capitalist
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society. Whenever a man, or a bureaucracy or a government sets itself up
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as the highest power to distribute to the needs of its citizens, it inevitably
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fails. If you don't believe me, go down to any housing project in
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the United States and see the prosperity of the people living on welfare and food
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stamps. You will find poverty and want, drug abuse, and violence.
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You will never never find prosperity or an easy life that was promised. It's
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a very seductive concept. But take that in contrast to the small farmer who
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may not have much money at all, but his land produces all his family
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needs and a little extra. You know, that was one of the great
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failures of the nineteen nineties when under Clinton, the enacted NAFTA, where they
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basically said, you know, we're just going to let other countries produce our
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goods and will be the consumers. And I can tell you here in North
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Carolina and throughout the rural South Georgia and South Carolina and Tennessee and Virginia,
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about everywhere I've lived, you find whole towns just hollowed and emptied out.
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You find farms replaced with trailer parks and a very poor standard of life that
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people are desperate to get out of. But most of them give up and
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just go on welfare and disability. And it's really a sad state of affairs
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that was not the doing of God. God didn't cause that. God gave
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the plentiful land. You know, you can take all the people in the
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United States, all three hundred and what fifty or seventy million of US,
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and give each one ten acres in Texas, and the entire rest of the
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country would be empty. Forty nine States would be nothing but wilderness. Each
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person living in the United States would have ten acres. Five acres will produce
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more than enough food for a family of three, four or five. Each
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person could have ten acres. How is that God's fault, Well, it's
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not. It's human kind. Humanity's fault for thinking that we knew better than
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God. So to look at the relative poverty of some as opposed to the
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relative prosperity of others and to blame God for it is completely irrational. Blame
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man for it. I mean most, most of the European immigrants the United
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States came here for land because the governments of say, you know, England
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and other countries had taken all the land and put in the hands of just
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a few. You had a choice to live as basically a surf on their
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land, serving them on a subsistence subsistence lifestyle, just making enough to survive.
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Your children can have no better life. They had no ability to own
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land. Land is actually the only thing in this world that is worth anything.
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All the currencies paper, money, gold, silver, I don't care
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what it is, is only worth how much land or food produced from that
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land it can buy or shelter produced from the timber that came off that land,
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or the stones that would build a stonehouse that came off the land.
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Land is the only true thing of value physically in this world, and they
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had taken it all. The lord's owned the manor and all the property.
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And anyone that went out to pick some wild greens or shoot a deer that
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God provided for their sustenance was poaching the king's deer or stealing from the lord
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of the manor. That's not what God intended. That's what man caused.
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And the true the same as absolutely true in any city today where people are
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sleeping on the streets, you know, usually drug addicted, mental illness,
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etc. Those are other issues, but with a barrier to get ahead,
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because so much real estate is just sitting empty, being unused. It's not
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being used for the purpose that God intended. Now a person may say,
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this is my property, I can do what I want with it. Okay,
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yes, you absolutely can. But Catholic charity, true Christian charity,
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would say I should be using this land for its best use for humanity and
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the world and for myself and for my family, and just letting buildings sit
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there and rot and fall down and letting vandals tear everything up and encouraging homelessness,
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which is all the Democratic Party offers. Is encouraging homelessness and poverty is
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not good, And neither is the other side of that coin, the greedy
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person who says, I will not share anything of mine with anyone else.
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If you've got a piece of real estate and you're sitting there and you're wanting,
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like, you know, a million dollars for a tenth of an acre,
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and you're you know, you're you're satisfied just to let it sit there
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and be unused year after year after year. Meanwhile, that piece of property
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could be rented out to someone who wants to start a business. The bearers
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are starting a business in this country are insane. There's I mean, the
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reason many immigrants, illegal immigrants come into this country and start a restaurant is
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because they're doing everything under the table. We have so many rules and regulations.
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Look, there was a time when I wanted to start a barbecue restaurant,
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traditional North Carolina barbecue restaurant, okay, and the first thing I had
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to do legally was to check with the zoning and the Health department, all
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the everything right, I found the right piece of property, and it was
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way too expensive. You know, honestly, it would have been very difficult
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just to break even to pay the rent on this commerce sual lot with a
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little you know, old convenience store basically on it to pay the landlord.
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And you know, that was an issue. But I could. I could
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work it out. I could make just like five percent over cost, which
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would eventually work out. And so I went to the health department guy and
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they're like, wow, you know this would be great. I'd love to
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have a barbe could join in this town. And I told him I was
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going to make homemade ice cream too, and they were literally thrilled, you
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know. And he says to me, well, you we have our zoning
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in codes inspector and he's going to come on there. And he was a
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well known person in the area. I'm not gonna say where it is.
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I certainly don't want any retribution against myself or if for some reason I misunderstood,
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I'm going to give that little, you know, caveat to be charitable,
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but I don't think I did. He said he's going to measure all
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your doors and make sure they're up to the Americans with disability at code.
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He's there, you have to have a certain size of your parking lot.
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You're gonna have to have so many restrooms, and you're gonna have to have
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you know, impervious walls, floors and ceilings, and said, you know,
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a barbecue joint literally used to just be a center block barbecue pit,
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outdoors and some picnic tables. Well, they were saying it needed you know,
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three sinks for this and all that. And he said, but here's
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the bottom line. And you know, uh, this inspector is a public
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official. And you know, if you want to get your your license and
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have no problems and you know, not be shut down, you might as
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well go ahead and write him a check for at least five thousand dollars and
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if you can swing fifteen, you're probably gonna have no trouble. So here
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in the land of the Free and the home of what was once the Brave,
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I had to pay off an official between five and fifteen thousand dollars just
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to open the doors of my restaurant. And I said, no, yeah,
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I'm not doing that. Screw it, I'm done, walk away right.
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Meanwhile, there's a little tienda run by illegal emigrants down the street,
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and I'm you know, good people. We went to mass together. You're
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here illegally. I wish they'd come legally, but that's you know, they
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were at least productive members of the community, right They're working when others are
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sitting on their butts taking welfare and social security and disability. And I mean,
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I don't blame someone for taking so security, but you know, disability
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is like getting it early because you supposedly hurt yourself or anyway. Some people
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get legitimately and some don't. I'm not trying to cast dispersions. Meanwhile,
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you know, like a third of the counties on public assistance, and these
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people are actually working and working hard. So I had that much respect for
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them. And I went and they had the most wonderful tomalis. They didn't
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speak word English, but I'd go down and then their tamalies were a dollar
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apiece and I'd walk in. I'd buy, you know, for launch,
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five tomalies and a beer. You know. Great. They had no health
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inspection sticker on the wall, you know, that placard whatever you call it.
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And I asked, I said, well, you know, I know
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of a restaurant, and I didn't specifically say it because I didn't want to
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get the people in trouble. Why is it they don't have to do the
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same things, and he said, well, because first of all, we
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don't know who they are. He says, you know, they come in
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and they say their name is Hernandez or Rodriguez or whatever, and we just
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have to take their word for it because they have no documentation. If we
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find them, they won't pay it. If we try to arrest them,
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you know when, they won't show up to their court date and they'll just
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go to the next county and operate under a different name. We have no
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enforceable law against these people. I said, well, why do you allow
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them to operate? We said, well, to tell you the truth,
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mostly it's people from their own community that eat with them and shop with them,
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and they're not citizens and we're not really responsible for them. And on
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the other hand, if we shut them down, these people would have a
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harder time getting food and would be more of a burden on our community.
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We'd have to give them more in food stamps and subsidies so they could go
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to the you know, traditional American supermarket up the road. They take care
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of them their community and we leave them alone. Well, you know that's
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kind of charitable on the one hand. On the other hand, it creates
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a huge barrier to entry for the person trying to do it legally, especially
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when the bureaucracy. Bureaucracy is going to try to rip you off and take
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advantage of you. You know, that's not God's plan. God's plan is
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equal treatment under the law, which was what our government was actually founded on.
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And if you think we have eaten equal treatment under the law, just
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ask yourself why Hunter Biden is still walking around a free man, and why
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Joe Biden's in the office and Donald Trump is being investigated and indicted for every
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time someone makes up a story about him. I mean, come on,
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someone has said about him. He raped me in a public department store thirty
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years ago. No, there were no witnesses. No, I don't even
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remember the date. No, I didn't tell anybody about it at the time.
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Yes, it was out in the middle of the public in you know,
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it was in a changing room and a Macy's or something, and they
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were like a million people around, and no one witnessed it. And I
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didn't call for help, and I didn't call a police. But thirty years
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later, after he's become you know, a very controversial figure, and the
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laws probably on my side, and I can get a few million dollars out
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of the bit and the plaudits of all my peers, I'm going to accuse
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him of rape. And they're they're delaying that stand. How many people do
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you think have accused Hunter Biden of rape over the years? How many?
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I mean, are they all hookers? Does he just pay everybody for sex?
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I mean, come on, apparently on his laptop he's seen with a
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lot of underage women, statutory rape at the very least, and no charges
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being proffered. Look at everything that Clinton's got away with. You remember Bill
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Clinton? You might want to put some ice on that, you know,
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after he was accused of rape by Paula Jones and apparently physical abuse, you
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know, actually hitting her and such, No charges, nothing, not a
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thing. So you're gonna blame God for that? Are you gonna blame man
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for that? I know what seems right and rational and reasonable to me.
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You know, I think we could be the best thing that could happen to
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this country is if all the liberal Democrats just decided to move to France or
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something. Just get them the hell out of here. But that's why this
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is the uncensored Catholic. Anyway, let's get into what father Sparago said.
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Now that I've gone way off topic, Father's Farrago said, in his words
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in the eighteen nineties, do not be dainty. And he said that to
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guard against the scent of gluttoning, one should eat whatever was put before them
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without complaint. Take whatever you're served. Food is food for the body,
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just as the Word of God is food for the soul, and we should
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never turn up our noses at it or disdain it. Wow, that really
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set me back on my heels because I like quality food. I like good
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food, and I enjoy cooking, probably even more than I can enjoy eating.
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I would never wish to serve someone food they wouldn't want to eat.
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And you know, I don't eat at most restaurants because I don't like processed
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food. I don't like you know, Cisco frozen pre made food popped in
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the microwave and serve to me. And I thought, well, am I'm
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wrong in this? And yeah, there probably have been times I was wrong.
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They probably definitely have been times I was wrong. But I think we
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actually have a difference in eras here in the time of Father Sparago, in
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the eighteen hundreds, there was no such thing as processed food. Food was
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what God intended. It was airloom, vegetables and grains, meat and fish.
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It was real, it was nutritious. You know, during his time,
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if we think about England, food would had been very bland. You
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know, you can look at all the old English cookbooks. Now, if
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you were royalty or very rich, you were using a lot of spices,
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and a lot of these was seen kind of odd to our taste buds,
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like the Christmas spices. You would have a meat dish that had cinnamon and
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clothes and you know, all spice and sugar in it. I mean,
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think of a you know, an English mincemeat pie, a good mincemeat pie
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that's really traditional for Christmas. Yes, it's pretty good, but it's a
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little oddly spiced to our modern taste, and it's good on occasion as a
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treat, absolutely, or a real pork pie, a real English pork pie
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quite good. Actually English food is not bad, but it does not tend
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to be highly seasoned. The average person in eighteen hundred seventeen hundred or before
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that. England would have had boiled meat and vegetables with little to know herbs
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and spices at all. You know, they may have used some parsley out
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of the garden. Yeah, that's about it. There would not have been
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a lot of black pepper because black pepper was very expensive. It would have
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been salt. It would have been meat, and it would have been some
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vegetables boiled down to mush, maybe some grains. They might thrown some barley
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in there. English had bad teeth and the food was really cooked down to
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mush. I mean think about like something close to baby food and a chunk
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of unseasoned boiled meat. Yeah, and I collect old cookbooks. I'm telling
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you this is really how they did. Think Conversely, you know, France
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and Spain used a lot of spices. Italy used a lot of spices.
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I think it's very interesting to go back to Apecious and the ancient Roman cookbooks,
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ancient Greek cookbooks. They used a lot of interesting spices and herbs and
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fish sauces garum is like the equivalent of the modern day or like an Asian
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fish sauce like you might have in Thai food, or even like soy sauce
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or Worcester sauce. Actually Worcester sauce wore kester Shire sauce. If you want
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to pronounce it as it's spelled. Everybody knows the sauce quite tasty, gives
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a lot of flavor to the foods. The old ketchups were fermented sauces before
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tomatoes were even used. Average people in England didn't have these average people in
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Italy, Spain, you know, France. Actually, the French cooking is
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more similar to ancient Roman cooking than modern Italian cooking. That would probably surprise
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a lot of people, but if you check out the old recipes of Appecius
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and such, you will find that the ancient Romans had very unique food.
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It's almost more like it's almost almost like a cross between the French food of
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classical French food, we'll just put it that way. I'm not talking about
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novelle cuisine or something, you know, classical French food and some of the
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flavors of China. There was a lot of Asian influence on that food,
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and it was quite tasty. All the dishes I've tried have been very balanced
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in salty savory, sweet and sour, with a lot of herbaceous and spice
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to it as well, a lot of what we might call ummmy type flavors.
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You can see, I really get into food, and I study this
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in early America seventeen hundred, So what do you call that? Eighteenth century?
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The cookbooks, they would blow your mind. A distant relative of mind
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through marriage as Mary Randolph. She wrote the first truly American cookbook, a
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cookbook written by a person of American birth in the United States. She was
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related Thomas Jefferson and the Washington's, a very prominent family. Used a ton
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of spices. Nutmeg was in just about every vegetable dish. She used a
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lot of clothes, a lot of allspice. You know, at this point
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in time on the East coast of America, the ports like in Boston,
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New York, and Charleston, Chesapeake, certainly Savannah and probably without a doubt,
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Lands had the best food of all because it had that influence of French
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and Spanish and Creole and such. But they were using a lot of stuff
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that by the nineteen hundreds, when even the eighteen hundreds, let's say the
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seventeen hundreds, it was very sophisticated and spice food. By the Civil War
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and into the nineteen hundreds with the World Wars, that stuff was like gone
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from our diet. Our diets had become very simple and basic, much more
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like traditional English food. So for father's farrago, there was no concept of
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processed food. It was merely a matter of turning up your nose at something
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that wasn't quite gourmet enough. So that was he considered an offense to God.
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God made the plants and the animals and the fish for us to eat,
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and the cook put their effort into it, and we were supposed to
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eat whatever was given to us. Well, there was no such thing as
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margarine. There was no such thing as processed plastic cheese. There were no
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doritos and chemically laden cheeseburgers that Americans just gorged themselves on. Now, sugar
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was very expensive and not served a lot we eat. We actually eat about
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sixty times more sugar per year per person America than our ancestors did just one
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hundred years ago, and they were eating about one hundred times more than their
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ancestors did one hundred years before that. You know, we have an epidemic
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of diabetes, heart disease, kidney failure, cancers, largely due to excess
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consumption of sugar and certainly processed, chemically laden food. So you have to
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remember that in Fathersparrago's time, food was food. Fish was the food of
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the poor, the common people. Now fish is expensive delicacy. Seafood costs
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more than beef in most places in the United States. Not in his time.
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You know, Catholics were supposed to eat fish on Fridays as a penance.
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Meat was reserved for the wealthy. Well, that would be the good
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cuts. In you know, Father Sparago's time, mutton was often eaten.
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Nobody an America eats mutton anymore, which is a shame because it's actually good
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meat when prepared the right way. There's a tradition in Kentucky of making barbecue
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out of mutton. It's very good stuff. But also lamb and veal.
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These were excess products that came from dairies. You know, the cow has
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to calve regularly to produce milk, and a male lamb or cow there's another
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word for that. It's coming to me right now, was sort of a
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useless object. You would have to grow him out to sell him as beef,
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you castrate him, and you know, but for essentially so you always
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had a surplus of lamb and veal. So for poor people and for the
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humble monks and religious of the day. A knuckle of lamb or a knuckle
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of veal as they called it, which was like a big joint with some
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muscle attached to it, the nice cut's already taken off, would have been
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worth pennies if even that the butcher would even just give them away, the
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buns and such. Now that's considered gourmet food. Now you know, you
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get some asabuco and you're going to go pay a lot to have some veal
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shanks cooked down in a nice you know, vegetable based sauce, maybe a
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little bit of wine. That's gourmet food. Then it was commoner's food,
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a meal that he probably would have had very frequently, which goes back to
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the Old Testament. I mean it was eaten throughout Europe and the Middle East.
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Would have been lentils with probably a piece of mutton or lamb, a
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joint piece with a lot of gristle and cartilage on it, and not a
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lot of meat boiled together with some onions and garlic and probably well parsley,
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a few other herbs that were common. You know, coriander was very common,
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marjoram, etc. Salt, and pepper if they could afford pepper,
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pepper might have been left out. And yeah, wine was a bunnet because
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wine was you could drink wine without fear of getting food poisoning, whereas if
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you drink the water you might get really sick. So wine and beer were
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you know, the common table fair. Again, now wine and beer expensive
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objects. Cheese was just a way of preserving milk, so there was no
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doubt in you know, father Soparrago's time, when he sat down to a
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meal, it was going to be quality and nutritious. It was going to
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be an honest product from the farm, cooked by someone who actually cooked and
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didn't just take something from a package and stick it in the microwave. So
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in his time, the idea of gluttony was one who was eating the finest
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cuts of meat and a lot of expensive spices which were you know, not
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necessary. But we're a luxury and you know, probably consuming a lot of
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fine brandy and the finest wines, not the beer of the common people.
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And you know, getting fat and getting gout, and becoming attached to the
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things of this world as opposed to the things of God. And you know
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that really could it was. It was a temptation, a constant temptation for
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the religious hierarchy, the leaders of the church, because the bishops and the
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cardinals and the pope, people out of their charity, wanted to give,
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and they always had excess, and their diets could be, you know,
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quite higher than the common man. And father Sparago was chastising his priests and
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bishops and even the Pope for indulging an extravagance as opposed to keeping the mind
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on the things of God. So how do we approach this and make it
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relate to our modern times. Well, now we have an excess of food
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that is a very low nutritional value. We have all the deritos and the
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candy bars and the you know, the fast food pizza, and I mean
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food is like a it's cheap, it's easy, and it's abundant, and
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it's really not very good for us. So I think the way we could
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best embody the teaching of the Church when it comes to food is to take
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a little more thought and seek out quality food, food as God intended,
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cook it with care. If you go to a restaurant, go to maybe
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a family owned restaurant who actually does that, who cares about their ingredients and
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cooks with care because you know they're actually feeding people, They're they're doing a
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service to their community, as opposed to a commercial chain, which is just
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about slopping the hogs. Essentially, you know, get us in, get
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us out, feed us as quickly as much junk as possible. Don't just
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eat to eat, obviously, eat when you're hungry, Eat to satisfy your
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needs and nourish your body. Try to stay away from the junk foods that
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really do nothing for you nutritionally and are actually empty calories. And are you
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know our junk foods now have more flavor in them than those extravagant gourmet foods
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of the father Sparago's time and their gear. They're actually they are food scientists
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who put these flavors together to essentially addict you to to those flavors. The
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reason people line up at McDonald's to eat really lousy food is because of the
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way the food is made. I'm not going to say more than that,
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but I did study food science for a few years, and there are certain
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ingredients that go into those foods that make people come back. And the more
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that you eat and the more you just stuff your face mindfully without really thinking,
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I mean mindlessly. The more you stuff your face mindlessly without thinking about
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it, the more harm you do to your health. But Father Sparago would
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say, the more harm you do to your soul. When we have real
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food, cooked by an actual person, served with care, and we are
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actually grateful for that food, that's what God intended, you know. The
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the food is a gift from God, and the skill given to man to
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produce that food and to prepare that food is also a gift from God.
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And it's no coincidence that our entire religion is based on a meal, the
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Eucharist. Every time we sit at the family table, and that's where we
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should have our meals if it all possibles. At the family table, it's
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a time to commune with others. It's a time to appreciate the gifts from
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God. It's time to have gratitude for all we're given. I mean,
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our main prayers give us this day our daily bread. Food is an integral
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part of the Christian experience. Therefore, there are times for fasting and there
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are times for feasting. What's wrong is to take food for granted or to
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make food your God. Now there are the Epicureans of ancient Greece who said,
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you know, enjoy everything in life because there's no afterlife. Basically,
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I think weren't as immoral as they've seen, but a lot of their stuff
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was a little, you know, pretty bad actually. And then there's the
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the dainty person, as father Sparago would say, the one that would just
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not dane lower himself to dine with the common man or to eat the common
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man's food. You remember when John Carey went to Philadelphia and he ordered to
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cheese steak, and they asked him if he wanted while was out, so
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they say, do you want it with cheese whizz or without cheese whizz wh
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whizz or without? Right, he said, in his John Carey voice,
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do you have what do you want? Provoload? No, provolo swiss?
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Do you have emman taller or something like that? You know, it was
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like so out of place. You knew the man had never walked in and
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dine with the common man. Ever, on the other hand, his running
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mate's idea of a good meal was Windy's. That's where he and his wife
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spent there, spent their anniversary every year, and the Carrs had to lower
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themselves to eating with the to eating with them at a Windy's, and we're
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equally out of place. There's got to be a balance somewhere in between the
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two where food is not just for stuffing one's face and satisfying one's temporal desires,
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and it's also not elevated to the point of worshiping the food. And
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of course we know John Edwards was not a man of great self control when
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it came to satisfying his appetites. The answer is to be grateful for every
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meal and to treat it as something worthy of gratitude, quality ingredients, as
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best you can cook them, as best you can eat the meal, understanding
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that this is our daily bread given to us by God. And as long
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as we have a heart of gratitude, and we're not over eating, we're
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not over drinking, we're not taking it for granted, which is really what
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most Americans do these days, and we're not putting it up on a pedestal
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of an altar, then we're finding that right balance. And you know,
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every year we get a chance to cut out some things from our diet in
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Lent, and every Friday, you know, hopefully if we can, we
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can abstain from meat and then on Saturday we have a pork chop or a
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steak and be truly grateful for it. And you know, and and honestly,
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I absolutely love seafood, so I cannot say fish on Friday's as appenance
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for me. But for some it is. For some it is sometime times
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maybe we want to just have vegetables, maybe just some you know, one
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of my favorite meals is nothing more than pasta parsley, garlic and olive oil,
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little black pepper, little white white. That's it. That's simple,
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little crush red pepper. That's I think that's probably where father Sparago was going
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with that. And if you know, if you have a different opinion,
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get in touch with me. Let me know. It's Judson at Judson Carol
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dot com. But I do think there is a good balance we can make
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between being dainty, as father Sparago would say, turning up our nose at
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the food of the common man, and focusing on the gifts God gives us.
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In good quality ingredients and skill in cooking and appreciating a meal, But
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those we love, after all. The church begins at the family table anyway,
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in the words of Saint Padre Pio, pray, hope and don't worry,
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and I will talk to you next time.