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- 0:02Speaker 1: With Alexi Napola and Marisa Patton an iHeartRadio podcast.
- 0:07Speaker 2: Wait no, dalla, what are we talking about today?
- 0:08Speaker 3: My friend?
- 0:09Speaker 2: Why ahead you?
- 0:10Speaker 3: First of all, I missed you so much. I did
- 0:13Speaker 3: on my last podcast with Peter. You know, it was
- 0:15Speaker 3: a little different because like mother and son, it was
- 0:18Speaker 3: really want to do that. It was it was, you know,
- 0:20Speaker 3: very good. Oh well, thank you? Like did you get that? Yeah,
- 0:23Speaker 3: I didn't do it.
- 0:24Speaker 1: I didn't even know you guys were going to do
- 0:26Speaker 1: it together.
- 0:28Speaker 2: It was a great idea, it was perfect.
- 0:30Speaker 3: I know it was fun. It was fun, but I
- 0:32Speaker 3: did miss you, and I know that you were busy
- 0:36Speaker 3: renewing your vows with Miss America.
- 0:39Speaker 1: It's a very small part of the trip, and I
- 0:42Speaker 1: wish you could have been with me. But you know,
- 0:44Speaker 1: we couldn't both be away from filming the show so
- 0:46Speaker 1: or else we'd be fired.
- 0:48Speaker 3: That is true, And you did ask the permission. For
- 0:50Speaker 3: a long time ago, somebody actually wrote on my Instagram
- 0:53Speaker 3: I thought Alexi was your best friend, wasn't she. Then
- 0:55Speaker 3: I'm like, hi, put forward. I'm not even gonna answer.
- 0:57Speaker 3: That's an moment, but you know what, I asked your
- 0:59Speaker 3: agree with the fan because that is true. I feel
- 1:01Speaker 3: like I've missed all your marriages. I've been there in spirit,
- 1:05Speaker 3: but I think that that's what caused a little bit
- 1:07Speaker 3: of a like between you and I last night because
- 1:11Speaker 3: you were there.
- 1:13Speaker 1: Okay, well, you know what, I'm planning another one because
- 1:15Speaker 1: this is like my birthday. I'm going to celebrate it
- 1:16Speaker 1: every year whether anybody likes it or not, but I'm
- 1:19Speaker 1: going to do it.
- 1:19Speaker 3: So you do, and then that's what counts. I've never
- 1:21Speaker 3: mind doomen like does it? Don't you get nervous? Like,
- 1:26Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't like that part. What I
- 1:29Speaker 3: like is the honeymoon. So while you were renewing your vowels,
- 1:32Speaker 3: I was redoing my honeymoon again with Todd, and this
- 1:35Speaker 3: time going to Lake Como and to Milano. It was hot,
- 1:40Speaker 3: it was sexy, and you know how I always say
- 1:42Speaker 3: that the sex is a lot much better when you're
- 1:44Speaker 3: like on vacation. And then, oh, yeah, you do you're
- 1:46Speaker 3: a hotel I am you. I like it.
- 1:52Speaker 2: Do you think that's where the work comes from? Hotel?
- 1:55Speaker 3: It could be from now on it is going to
- 1:57Speaker 3: be working for you for me, it is anyways, Well,
- 2:02Speaker 3: tell us, tell us about it. Tell us. I think
- 2:04Speaker 3: the viewers would love to hear because I'm they're not
- 2:06Speaker 3: going to see that on the show.
- 2:08Speaker 2: So I don't know. I don't know if they will
- 2:12Speaker 2: or not. I have no idea. I have I have
- 2:14Speaker 2: some video I took.
- 2:15Speaker 3: Well, the cameras weren't there, but you weren't there.
- 2:18Speaker 2: But I have video.
- 2:19Speaker 3: You know, it's up for I had records. It's not
- 2:23Speaker 3: always about the camera being there, you know, it's like
- 2:25Speaker 3: the moment, living the moment.
- 2:27Speaker 1: Well, that was what it was all about, really, because
- 2:30Speaker 1: at first they was like, why are we doing this?
- 2:31Speaker 1: I'm like, because I want to be a princess and
- 2:33Speaker 1: a castle and you're gonna just show up.
- 2:35Speaker 3: By the way, I loved your dress, Pussy bo. Yeah
- 2:39Speaker 3: it was good. Yeah it was a big one. Yeah
- 2:43Speaker 3: you could get away with all that. It looks ridiculous, but.
- 2:48Speaker 1: No, it wouldn't you have to if you slicked your
- 2:50Speaker 1: hair all back, a little thing in the middle there
- 2:52Speaker 1: and you just can't have hair.
- 2:54Speaker 3: And I don't know, I feel like, I'm.
- 2:56Speaker 2: Oh, thank you. So did I look like you're talk Coco.
- 3:00Speaker 3: No, I'm saying about myself, but I said, I'm you.
- 3:02Speaker 3: I think it looks so and it's so beautiful, like
- 3:04Speaker 3: you wear it so well. Thank you. You looked gorgeous
- 3:07Speaker 3: in you're find English. It was obvious.
- 3:09Speaker 1: I was in English and we had this lady. She
- 3:12Speaker 1: was Scottish. Justice of the piece. She forgot to brush
- 3:17Speaker 1: her hair. I was like, what are you wearing when
- 3:19Speaker 1: you brush?
- 3:19Speaker 3: You didn't have your Glas team there to fix her
- 3:23Speaker 3: up a little bit? No, I didn't see.
- 3:24Speaker 1: And then her like dress was a little tattered and
- 3:26Speaker 1: ripped them like she couldn't wear something like I would
- 3:28Speaker 1: have just like borrowed, like I know, like I would
- 3:32Speaker 1: just wear like you know, you know those the gown
- 3:34Speaker 1: you were when you graduate, Like we're something that takes
- 3:37Speaker 1: something cup and gown like a cop and minus the cap.
- 3:40Speaker 2: But no, she forgot to brush your hair.
- 3:42Speaker 3: She had the cap. Oh no, this one says irel India.
- 3:47Speaker 3: You would have had to buy on this at Scotland, right.
- 3:49Speaker 2: I wanted to put a cap on her.
- 3:51Speaker 1: And I was like, listen, we maybe had an old castle,
- 3:53Speaker 1: but your dress doesn't have to be as old as
- 3:55Speaker 1: the castle.
- 3:56Speaker 3: It was a little, you know, but.
- 3:58Speaker 2: She was lovely. She tied our hands together. I didn't
- 4:02Speaker 2: realize I said this. I was a little lit. I
- 4:03Speaker 2: looked at my friends.
- 4:04Speaker 3: There were video on me.
- 4:05Speaker 2: I'm like, this is so kicky.
- 4:07Speaker 4: We were kidding having our vowels on they titles, and
- 4:11Speaker 4: I'm like, this is so kiky. Anyway, it was beautiful,
- 4:14Speaker 4: It was lovely, and the memories, the memories are everything,
- 4:17Speaker 4: and I just want to keep making memories.
- 4:18Speaker 3: You know.
- 4:19Speaker 2: It's the best part of the trip.
- 4:21Speaker 3: Absolutely. Yeah. But I mean, if just for me, I
- 4:24Speaker 3: would think I would get so stressed out. And I
- 4:26Speaker 3: think so we're todd like Todd, and I don't like
- 4:27Speaker 3: that part. But yeah, I love that you love to
- 4:31Speaker 3: keep on doing this.
- 4:33Speaker 1: I'm doing it again. I'm not gonna do it next year,
- 4:35Speaker 1: but maybe in two years.
- 4:36Speaker 3: Maybe we can do our next one together. I told
- 4:39Speaker 3: you we need to do it together. Yeah, maybe my
- 4:41Speaker 3: five year. You know, I'll do. But it has to
- 4:43Speaker 3: be like in a really exotic place.
- 4:46Speaker 1: No, but you can't wait that long because I'm already
- 4:48Speaker 1: gonna do it in an exotic place in two years.
- 4:49Speaker 2: You might as well just come to that want and
- 4:51Speaker 2: do it. I have to wait. What if you die?
- 4:53Speaker 3: I don't have to wait. There's no way.
- 4:56Speaker 1: Make rules in life, baby, and live and be happy.
- 5:00Speaker 1: I have a great plan for us.
- 5:01Speaker 3: Okay, you set everything up, lease, I just don't want
- 5:03Speaker 3: it to be you know, stressful, you know, because way stressful. No,
- 5:09Speaker 3: take care of it. I just want to show up.
- 5:11Speaker 3: You tell me what the theme is and I'll be there.
- 5:13Speaker 3: The we knew our bells because that is very special
- 5:17Speaker 3: forward to doing that.
- 5:18Speaker 1: You know that every time I do stuff and people
- 5:20Speaker 1: are like weird about it, then everybody starts doing the
- 5:22Speaker 1: same thing.
- 5:22Speaker 3: Do I have it?
- 5:23Speaker 1: Everyone's going to start getting renewing vows and getting married
- 5:25Speaker 1: again and again and again, and it's cool.
- 5:28Speaker 3: Why not? All right? Well, speaking of getting married again
- 5:31Speaker 3: and engagement, how do you feel about mister Lennie. You know,
- 5:37Speaker 3: we're here now to talk about the Housewives because I
- 5:39Speaker 3: don't like to talk about my colleagues and you know,
- 5:42Speaker 3: the girls we work with, or about our show. But
- 5:44Speaker 3: I think that sometimes it's necessary. And it's not even
- 5:47Speaker 3: about the show. It's about our friend, our friend Lisa
- 5:51Speaker 3: as you know, that's going through something you know, and
- 5:53Speaker 3: which a lot of women can relate to, and it's
- 5:56Speaker 3: just something that has to be addressed.
- 5:58Speaker 1: Yeah, and by the way, if Lisa wasn't so vocal
- 6:01Speaker 1: about it, we wouldn't be either, but we love her.
- 6:03Speaker 2: We want to support her, and this is.
- 6:05Speaker 3: Hard and we do. I mean, I think everyone is
- 6:07Speaker 3: supporting her, and everyone is just in shock at the
- 6:11Speaker 3: fact that Lenny announced his engagement and he actually posted
- 6:16Speaker 3: while Lisa was in Europe celebrating her birthday. It wasn't
- 6:20Speaker 3: the same day, but you know, we're really upset me
- 6:23Speaker 3: with the fact that, like, for example, I saw Lisa's
- 6:25Speaker 3: post with her and Jody I obviously neither were going
- 6:27Speaker 3: to Europe. Actually we're trying to see each other while
- 6:29Speaker 3: we were there, but we miss each other for a day.
- 6:32Speaker 3: So when I I got so excited for her when
- 6:34Speaker 3: she posted her first picture like you know, Instagram official
- 6:37Speaker 3: kind of like on her on her page with Jody,
- 6:41Speaker 3: and it was such a beautiful picture. And you know,
- 6:43Speaker 3: it's taken her a while, you know, to kind of
- 6:45Speaker 3: move on and finally, you know, have like a really
- 6:47Speaker 3: nice man in her life. She was ready to post,
- 6:48Speaker 3: and I know what that feeling is like because she
- 6:50Speaker 3: went in you know, which is a good time, you know,
- 6:53Speaker 3: kind of make it like you know, Instagram official, whatever
- 6:55Speaker 3: that may mean. But she did that and then comes
- 6:58Speaker 3: this son of a of your ex husband. Yeah, that
- 7:03Speaker 3: from under her wants to like upper. Oh, I'm going
- 7:05Speaker 3: to up you. And like a day or two later
- 7:07Speaker 3: post you know, his engagement with his u with his mistress.
- 7:12Speaker 1: I I thought to myself, just like you're saying, he's
- 7:16Speaker 1: trying to un up or whatever whatever. But he was
- 7:19Speaker 1: there already with the ring, so obviously he didn't have
- 7:23Speaker 1: it FedEx because that ring looked enormous. So it was
- 7:25Speaker 1: a plan he had. But he's been with Lisa fifteen years.
- 7:28Speaker 1: He knows when her birthday is. He knew that was
- 7:30Speaker 1: a shitty move.
- 7:31Speaker 3: Oh, absolutely. And he was also very aware that Lisa
- 7:34Speaker 3: was going to Europe, you know, for her birthday.
- 7:36Speaker 2: Of course, because I have to coordinate the children and everything, right, well.
- 7:39Speaker 3: What do you mean the children. I don't think they
- 7:41Speaker 3: coordinated anything, because they were both obviously coordinate very well
- 7:47Speaker 3: because you know, their kids are are home, you know,
- 7:49Speaker 3: luckily Lisa house. You know, her mom that's here, and
- 7:51Speaker 3: her aunt and mom's here mm hmm.
- 7:56Speaker 2: And her aunt oh happy.
- 7:58Speaker 3: And so at least the kids are, you know, with them.
- 8:01Speaker 3: But again I thought it was really poor taste. You know.
- 8:03Speaker 3: Once again, you know, we know his style. It doesn't
- 8:06Speaker 3: surprise me. I mean I was surprised, but just the
- 8:10Speaker 3: poor taste that he would have actually doing this.
- 8:14Speaker 2: And she goes along with it. The girl goes along
- 8:17Speaker 2: with it. The girlfriend. Doesn't she get embarrassed or have
- 8:20Speaker 2: any shame?
- 8:20Speaker 3: Be like, you know what, maybe we don't know's just embarrassed. Man,
- 8:24Speaker 3: if she would have been a woman that has any
- 8:27Speaker 3: kind of shame, she would have never been caught up
- 8:28Speaker 3: in this relationship and this scandal. So, I mean, no,
- 8:31Speaker 3: she's she's not. You know, she's a twenty six, twenty
- 8:34Speaker 3: seven year old girl that you know. It's just like
- 8:36Speaker 3: going for the ride. And obviously it's very apparent, just
- 8:39Speaker 3: like the whole situation how you know, how they've handled
- 8:43Speaker 3: it is just so it hurt me so much, honestly,
- 8:46Speaker 3: Like it was like it was me, you know, you
- 8:48Speaker 3: know how I get with my friends. And I was
- 8:51Speaker 3: I was like, wow, how can this happening to her?
- 8:54Speaker 3: Because you know, as a woman, you know, and you think,
- 8:57Speaker 3: but why does he have to be so mean?
- 9:00Speaker 1: Why does it have to be so bad? Like why
- 9:02Speaker 1: I never liked him? I always thought it was just
- 9:04Speaker 1: not pleasant and not nice.
- 9:06Speaker 3: I mean, I know a lot of the comments were like, well,
- 9:08Speaker 3: you're not even divorced yet, Like how can you ask
- 9:10Speaker 3: you know, you can get engaged, you know, so there.
- 9:12Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know at this point if they're
- 9:13Speaker 3: legally divorced and have signed, but I know they entered
- 9:16Speaker 3: a marital agreement whatever that may be. But it's like,
- 9:19Speaker 3: you couldn't wait. He's not the first one to do it,
- 9:21Speaker 3: by the way, because I felt like, I think like
- 9:23Speaker 3: Mark Antony did that with his ex with the mom
- 9:27Speaker 3: of his kids, with Dianada, and as soon as they
- 9:29Speaker 3: signed the divorce the next day he married Jennifer Lopez.
- 9:32Speaker 3: So I mean, it's not the first time that is done, right,
- 9:34Speaker 3: But I think that now because of you know, social
- 9:37Speaker 3: media and you know, people like him, you know, want
- 9:39Speaker 3: to post it. But what's his objective? Like what to
- 9:42Speaker 3: continue to hurt LISTA? I mean, hasn't he done enough
- 9:44Speaker 3: damage already?
- 9:46Speaker 2: I mean he could have done a later Graham. I
- 9:47Speaker 2: don't know why I had to do it like there,
- 9:49Speaker 2: and then he could have waited a little bit. Let
- 9:51Speaker 2: least enjoy her birthday, her trip Bofalo.
- 9:54Speaker 3: But do you think he's a guy let her enjoy?
- 9:56Speaker 3: I mean, he's tortured her. Do you think he wants
- 9:58Speaker 3: to know anything?
- 9:59Speaker 2: But you know it's gonna see that when they grow up.
- 10:01Speaker 1: The kids, they're.
- 10:03Speaker 3: Not even when they grow up. I mean their kids
- 10:05Speaker 3: are already, especially Logan is at an age already where
- 10:07Speaker 3: he can see and for some other kids and friends,
- 10:10Speaker 3: and you know how the parents are. I mean, nowadays,
- 10:13Speaker 3: there's you know, we live in this world that everything
- 10:16Speaker 3: is like out in the open, like there's no secrets,
- 10:18Speaker 3: especially for us. You know that were public figures.
- 10:21Speaker 2: If you want it to be, it is well.
- 10:23Speaker 3: I mean, I don't think to have a choice. I
- 10:26Speaker 3: mean I feel like, you know, Lisa and Lenny are
- 10:29Speaker 3: public people already, you know, just like we are. So yes,
- 10:33Speaker 3: he didn't have to post it, but I feel like
- 10:35Speaker 3: everybody nowadays, that's the first thing they do. It's like
- 10:38Speaker 3: they want to go on social media and announce to
- 10:41Speaker 3: the world. And in this and in this case, it
- 10:42Speaker 3: was very cynical. You know, this is who he is.
- 10:44Speaker 3: He's a cynical person.
- 10:46Speaker 2: It's an ugly divorce and it will continue to be
- 10:49Speaker 2: ugly until one of them stops.
- 10:51Speaker 3: How did you feel about Lisa commenting on the engagement.
- 10:56Speaker 3: I loved it. I thought you loved it. Brillion kind
- 11:00Speaker 3: of reminded me of like Shakira, right, So Shakira congratulated
- 11:04Speaker 3: Pique also like in her song to Felicito. So Shakierra
- 11:08Speaker 3: after that happened, you know, and they announced their their
- 11:10Speaker 3: separation and she found out about his mistress. She wrote
- 11:16Speaker 3: the song to Felicito, and it was So it's kind
- 11:19Speaker 3: of like Lisa and Shakira have like a lot of parallel,
- 11:21Speaker 3: and we're going to be talking about that as well,
- 11:23Speaker 3: because we are also going to talk about how how
- 11:26Speaker 3: do you feel when the man already has like his
- 11:28Speaker 3: house and the woman, like you know, moves into the
- 11:31Speaker 3: house where he lived and shared with his ex wife
- 11:34Speaker 3: and with the family. So, as a matter of fact,
- 11:37Speaker 3: I was reading these things and I was like, wow,
- 11:38Speaker 3: Lisa has some parallel with Shakira, because you know, Shakira
- 11:42Speaker 3: obviously is a musician, and she wrote the song to
- 11:44Speaker 3: Felicito like congrats, but Lisa went ahead and wrote it
- 11:48Speaker 3: on Instagram, you know, congrats. I thought to put my
- 11:51Speaker 3: current husband. I want to put my current husband because
- 11:54Speaker 3: I wouldn't even give him that title. I kind don't
- 11:56Speaker 3: even want to give him that title.
- 11:57Speaker 1: The guy will it may it made it like a
- 12:01Speaker 1: better dig mistress.
- 12:07Speaker 3: So good, it was, it was really good. We loved Lisa.
- 12:13Speaker 3: But and then after and what about the mother in
- 12:15Speaker 3: law with the comment Marina like saying that stuff like, oh,
- 12:19Speaker 3: I'm so happy for you. My son like you. Finally
- 12:21Speaker 3: that respects you and respects you and loves you.
- 12:25Speaker 2: She respects that bank account.
- 12:27Speaker 3: Yeah, well, first of all, nobody respects anybody here. I
- 12:30Speaker 3: mean that respect. That's respect because this woman was married
- 12:34Speaker 3: to another man. It is all like, it's just disgusting.
- 12:38Speaker 3: It's disrespectful. You know, she's like an older person and
- 12:42Speaker 3: a mom and a grandma to be saying this about
- 12:45Speaker 3: you know, the mother. She never liked Lisa, and we
- 12:48Speaker 3: know that. And then to saw sat a medio at
- 12:51Speaker 3: the end because you know, she had her kids and
- 12:52Speaker 3: of course she wanted to have grandkids and all that,
- 12:55Speaker 3: but she never really liked Lisa. And you know what,
- 12:57Speaker 3: she's never going to really like this replacement either, because
- 13:00Speaker 3: that's how it is. That she just wants to have
- 13:02Speaker 3: access to her son and she wants to have access
- 13:04Speaker 3: to the money.
- 13:06Speaker 1: Yeah, and absolutely everyone's on the payroll. Yeah hmm, that's
- 13:11Speaker 1: a sad life.
- 13:11Speaker 3: Sorry, I mean, I'm actually very happy for Lisa that
- 13:14Speaker 3: she finally, you know, is got some closure and hopefully
- 13:18Speaker 3: she'll be able to move on.
- 13:20Speaker 1: And yeah, I think the worst part of all of
- 13:22Speaker 1: this is the way the you know, the divorce, the settlements.
- 13:28Speaker 3: Like everything. I mean, what are we doing here? We're
- 13:29Speaker 3: sitting here talking about everybody's public life, Shakira and Pik
- 13:33Speaker 3: and then all the other topics that we're going to
- 13:35Speaker 3: talk about. And it's just like that's the world that
- 13:37Speaker 3: we live in now. Everything is public, you know? And
- 13:40Speaker 3: how much is too much? Because I you know, I
- 13:44Speaker 3: mean we're in a reality show, so it's like our
- 13:46Speaker 3: life we share. We we choose that, right.
- 13:48Speaker 2: We're very good at sharing, aren't we?
- 13:51Speaker 3: No, like an overshare, but you know what, it's taking
- 13:55Speaker 3: me time, no, because I feel like us latin As
- 13:58Speaker 3: we won't raise like that. It was like, you know,
- 13:59Speaker 3: we talk about certain things. It's epoca. I mean, obviously
- 14:02Speaker 3: we grew up in a totally different you know, era stage, yeah,
- 14:06Speaker 3: and time, so it's very different. But you know, I mean,
- 14:10Speaker 3: and not only is this guy you know, and and
- 14:14Speaker 3: again I feel like some similarity with with Pik that
- 14:18Speaker 3: not only were they cheating on their wives, but so
- 14:21Speaker 3: quickly moved on and in this case Leney engage. But
- 14:25Speaker 3: now these women are moving into the house because he's
- 14:28Speaker 3: just dying for Lisa to get out of the house
- 14:29Speaker 3: so he can bring in the new woman, which is
- 14:31Speaker 3: already you know, attending and going to the house. And
- 14:34Speaker 3: I was reading that Piku also did the same thing.
- 14:38Speaker 3: So they had like this beach house that when he
- 14:40Speaker 3: first started tanning Shakira, Shakira moved into and as a
- 14:43Speaker 3: matter of fact, when she had her babies, when she
- 14:45Speaker 3: left the hospital, she went, you know into that house.
- 14:47Speaker 3: So they lived there. They lived there as a family
- 14:49Speaker 3: and her kids, and now.
- 14:52Speaker 2: It's it's his home.
- 14:53Speaker 3: Yeah, but do you think it's knew insane? I'm not
- 14:56Speaker 3: saying absolutely, it's his home. Like, no, they didn't get it.
- 15:01Speaker 3: I don't know it said but who are these women?
- 15:02Speaker 3: Would you be okay with that?
- 15:05Speaker 1: I mean no, I wouldn't be okay with it at all.
- 15:08Speaker 1: I'd be extremely devastated and upset. But what choice does
- 15:11Speaker 1: she have? And again this one's with another twenty four
- 15:14Speaker 1: year old? Is she twenty four years old?
- 15:16Speaker 3: Because my girlfriends, of course, these young girls that of
- 15:19Speaker 3: course you know have dollar science and that's what they want.
- 15:21Speaker 3: They want fame and they want money. And guess what
- 15:24Speaker 3: they have get heart?
- 15:26Speaker 2: Yes, no heart, no soul. It's horrible.
- 15:37Speaker 3: Okay. So if you were Clara, that's Picka's girlfriend, okay,
- 15:41Speaker 3: would you live in a house that your boyfriend shared
- 15:43Speaker 3: with his ex like you? For example, like when you
- 15:46Speaker 3: moved into Steve's house, if you would have known that
- 15:49Speaker 3: Steve's lived there and had you know they had lived
- 15:52Speaker 3: there as a couple and as a family, would you
- 15:54Speaker 3: be so quickly you know, would you be good? And
- 15:57Speaker 3: would you be so quick to move in?
- 15:59Speaker 2: I would be weird it out about it. It'd be
- 16:01Speaker 2: really weird sleep in.
- 16:02Speaker 3: The same bed you boil. I can't. I wouldn't be
- 16:05Speaker 3: able to woman that I couldn't even if like I
- 16:07Speaker 3: was when it was dating somebody.
- 16:09Speaker 1: Throws are hustlers. Brow the hustlers. The two of them
- 16:12Speaker 1: are twenty four year old hustlers.
- 16:14Speaker 3: I feel like Lisa's case, I feel like this is
- 16:17Speaker 3: what this girl wanted. She wanted the castle. You know,
- 16:19Speaker 3: she wanted the home.
- 16:19Speaker 2: And knew she wanted to shee you think.
- 16:25Speaker 3: She wants to be Lisa And then these men are
- 16:27Speaker 3: so stupid that they fall for that, Like they fall
- 16:29Speaker 3: for that. But you know what, Ian, you know because
- 16:34Speaker 3: I can't so, but it's true because like what woman
- 16:41Speaker 3: is going to like, what kind of woman is going
- 16:43Speaker 3: to want to live in that same house? I mean
- 16:46Speaker 3: one of the kids sleep in the same bed.
- 16:50Speaker 2: Well, she works with him, they work together.
- 16:53Speaker 3: Well we're talking about let you have.
- 16:56Speaker 2: Okay, no, we all know. The other one doesn't work.
- 16:58Speaker 2: I don't even know what she does.
- 17:00Speaker 3: She for him, Yeah, yeah, she works for him too,
- 17:05Speaker 3: glad of Yes, Clara Becau's girlfriend.
- 17:08Speaker 2: They work together. And that happens all the time. That
- 17:10Speaker 2: work in.
- 17:14Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's where it happens. That's where you spent
- 17:16Speaker 3: the most amount of time. It's in your work, in
- 17:19Speaker 3: your workplace. So that's why Mira and you know, they
- 17:23Speaker 3: taught I have my eyes there because I mean, I
- 17:26Speaker 3: I really don't go all the time or anything. But
- 17:29Speaker 3: I'm really good with that. And I've never ever and
- 17:32Speaker 3: even like in my past relationships, like when I've been
- 17:34Speaker 3: like you know, like as a woman, you kind of
- 17:38Speaker 3: know like this woman is going to be trouble and
- 17:41Speaker 3: you kind of like, but you have to address it,
- 17:43Speaker 3: you know, you have to address it. But sometimes you
- 17:44Speaker 3: can't be like overconfident, and you know, and Shakira's case,
- 17:49Speaker 3: I don't know, you know, I don't know if he
- 17:50Speaker 3: ever she even thought or wondered that he was going
- 17:53Speaker 3: to look at a twenty four year old, you know,
- 17:55Speaker 3: and have any kind of interest.
- 17:56Speaker 1: Well, I saw something on the daily mail that apparently
- 18:00Speaker 1: there was like a zoom call and you could see
- 18:01Speaker 1: the girl in the background.
- 18:03Speaker 3: Oh yeah.
- 18:04Speaker 1: She she had been out of town, Shakira, and she
- 18:07Speaker 1: got home and everything fell apart when she found strawberry
- 18:12Speaker 1: berry jam in the refrigerator. And she said, well, me
- 18:16Speaker 1: and my boys don't eat strawberry jam. And that's how
- 18:19Speaker 1: she knew.
- 18:19Speaker 3: The baby twenty four year old was any strawberry jam
- 18:22Speaker 3: and also eating you know what.
- 18:24Speaker 1: Yeah, that's how she knew there was a mistress.
- 18:29Speaker 3: Strawberry jama.
- 18:34Speaker 2: Anything can be a clue. You cannot look over.
- 18:39Speaker 3: When you're in this situation, it's very easy to look
- 18:41Speaker 3: back and say, oh, yeah, I should have known or whatever,
- 18:44Speaker 3: you know, I.
- 18:44Speaker 1: Should No, well, I meane a strawberry jam, Like, who's
- 18:47Speaker 1: gonna look and go, oh, he has a mistress?
- 18:50Speaker 3: Oh right. The thing is that who's going to think
- 18:53Speaker 3: that the man you're in a relationship with is so
- 18:56Speaker 3: disrespectful that he's going to bring the woman to your house.
- 18:59Speaker 1: Allegedly, people in their inner circle said they had an
- 19:04Speaker 1: open relationship.
- 19:05Speaker 3: Okay about speaking of open relationships. Okay, what is speaking
- 19:09Speaker 3: of open relationships? I feel like we're living in a
- 19:12Speaker 3: world now that everybody has an open relationship. And what
- 19:15Speaker 3: is an open relationship? You know, what kind of boundaries
- 19:17Speaker 3: do you have? An open relationship to me might not
- 19:20Speaker 3: be the same to you as an open relationship. I'm
- 19:22Speaker 3: sure that me when I was married to Hermit, people
- 19:24Speaker 3: thought we had an open relationship too. You know, you're
- 19:26Speaker 3: relao and you could do whatever you want, and he
- 19:28Speaker 3: does whatever he wants. But you know what the truth is,
- 19:30Speaker 3: and nobody lives in your house, and nobody is inside,
- 19:32Speaker 3: you know, inside your bedroom and inside your head, and
- 19:35Speaker 3: then the conversations between you and your partner, and you
- 19:37Speaker 3: don't know that people are going to assume. Okay, and
- 19:40Speaker 3: what is an open relationship?
- 19:41Speaker 2: He said it?
- 19:42Speaker 1: He said it, and I guess someone in his camp
- 19:44Speaker 1: I don't know, like on his side, also confirmed that
- 19:47Speaker 1: that was that.
- 19:48Speaker 3: But I don't know, well, speaking of that, I think
- 19:50Speaker 3: that that. Lenny's mistress also said some comment or alluded
- 19:54Speaker 3: to something like that in one of her comments, saying
- 19:56Speaker 3: that they have an open relationship and that he, sir,
- 20:00Speaker 3: do like whatever she wants. Yeah, exactly? Is that like
- 20:02Speaker 3: a code word for like you can cheat or you
- 20:04Speaker 3: have a free pass? I mean, what is that? Or
- 20:07Speaker 3: any relationship is that you can be with other girls
- 20:10Speaker 3: and I could be with other guys, or I can
- 20:12Speaker 3: be with other girls and you could be with it.
- 20:14Speaker 3: I mean, what is it? So you know, it's very
- 20:16Speaker 3: easy to say that.
- 20:18Speaker 1: I think it's an excuse and everyone's using no, no,
- 20:21Speaker 1: we were open, so we could do whatever we wanted.
- 20:23Speaker 2: Wasn't cheating. She shouldn't be devastated. It's not a big deal.
- 20:27Speaker 3: I've been telling you for two years she knew and
- 20:30Speaker 3: this and that, because that's that's what they say. And
- 20:33Speaker 3: then again it's like how much you know? How much
- 20:36Speaker 3: information do we have? And you know not everything you
- 20:38Speaker 3: read is the truth? I mean, lead them who were
- 20:42Speaker 3: going to know? But I felt like that was a
- 20:46Speaker 3: very easy to say, Oh, we had an open relationship,
- 20:48Speaker 3: so it's like she knew, So that's it's just kind
- 20:51Speaker 3: of like for him not to look so bad because
- 20:54Speaker 3: it doesn't strike me as Shakira being the woman that
- 20:56Speaker 3: she's going to be in an open relationship. I mean, no,
- 20:59Speaker 3: say you know, I mean because you never really know,
- 21:01Speaker 3: you know at the end.
- 21:03Speaker 2: But I've never heard rumblings about anything about her except
- 21:06Speaker 2: that she's super professional, she's amazing, Like I've never heard
- 21:10Speaker 2: anything bad about her, like even like.
- 21:13Speaker 3: What are the benefits of being an open relationship, because
- 21:16Speaker 3: that's the other thing. But yeah, but I also like,
- 21:19Speaker 3: you don't.
- 21:20Speaker 1: Get especially especially in the public eye, who does that,
- 21:23Speaker 1: Like you know you're going to get busted and it's
- 21:26Speaker 1: gonna come up.
- 21:27Speaker 3: Those open relationships that mean, I'm very closed because you
- 21:31Speaker 3: know what happens, somebody gets screwed, and in this case
- 21:34Speaker 3: it was Shakira. Okay, I'm so open. I'm so open.
- 21:36Speaker 3: I tried the other one and I liked her, so now.
- 21:38Speaker 2: You're fall in love.
- 21:40Speaker 3: That's what happens relationships, simple means.
- 21:44Speaker 1: But there I say, do not put a pineapple on
- 21:48Speaker 1: your front doorstep?
- 21:49Speaker 3: No, I mean. And the other thing is is like,
- 21:52Speaker 3: and we've discussed this before about you know, your friendships
- 21:55Speaker 3: and your your and your friend group and your couple group,
- 21:58Speaker 3: like who you go out with. That's the other thing
- 22:00Speaker 3: besides work that we said that a lot of the
- 22:01Speaker 3: cheating starts, you know, in your in your workplace, also
- 22:05Speaker 3: in your friend group. You know, you go out of
- 22:07Speaker 3: couples ye re Lajo and your sob friends and you
- 22:10Speaker 3: you know, and it's like this friendship turns into that,
- 22:13Speaker 3: you know many times.
- 22:14Speaker 2: That's what's happening now with Ariana ground Arianna Grande.
- 22:18Speaker 3: Yeah, I've never liked her. I've never liked something about
- 22:22Speaker 3: her that I've never liked her. Even her music, Yeah,
- 22:24Speaker 3: she has good vocals whatever, but okay make malacha. Yeah. So,
- 22:28Speaker 3: according to The Daily Mail, Arianna Grande and her now
- 22:31Speaker 3: a Strange husband Dalton Gomez allegedly went on Sev's with
- 22:35Speaker 3: her now boyfriend Ethan Slater and he's now a strange
- 22:38Speaker 3: wife Lily J sources say Arianna and Ethan we're so
- 22:42Speaker 3: obvious about the relationship. If their Wicked castmates knew about
- 22:45Speaker 3: the relationship. Since the news of the romance came out,
- 22:48Speaker 3: Ethan felt for divorce from his wife. Lily directly told
- 22:51Speaker 3: Page six, Arianna's the story. Really, she's not a girl's girl.
- 22:55Speaker 3: My family is damaged. She also added that she's focusing
- 22:59Speaker 3: on raising her and Slater's baby and being a good mom.
- 23:02Speaker 2: And the guy looks at her brother, did you say, yes?
- 23:06Speaker 2: They look alike.
- 23:08Speaker 3: She's never had she's never been known for having good
- 23:10Speaker 3: taste because she's gone out with what Sean big? Sean?
- 23:13Speaker 3: What was the other one that? Oh, Pete Davidson, I mean.
- 23:15Speaker 2: Her guys big? Who's big?
- 23:19Speaker 3: I don't know. Look him up, I don't know. I've
- 23:21Speaker 3: heard of him. I forgot what he looks like, but
- 23:23Speaker 3: nothing I want to look like fail all the.
- 23:26Speaker 1: Guys that she heayd David's is a little cute and
- 23:28Speaker 1: I want to know what's going on with him. That
- 23:30Speaker 1: everybody has something that's people right from the white down
- 23:36Speaker 1: cut it.
- 23:37Speaker 2: But I can imagine that's the only.
- 23:41Speaker 3: Cute thing he has in his body, because not even
- 23:43Speaker 3: his tattoos are cute. Tell them, oh my god.
- 23:45Speaker 2: It's magic wand it's all the ladies.
- 23:49Speaker 3: I guess you must have something, but don't want to.
- 23:51Speaker 2: He's got a wizard one again.
- 23:54Speaker 3: This is again everything we're talking about. It's like lo tempo.
- 23:57Speaker 3: Maybe like I'm not going to say that this has
- 23:59Speaker 3: never exist because obviously cheating and everything has happened since
- 24:03Speaker 3: you know, humans are you know, we're born and started.
- 24:08Speaker 3: But what I'm trying to say is that now everybody
- 24:11Speaker 3: finds out about it, you just can't get away with it.
- 24:13Speaker 3: So I guess before kind of like they make it public.
- 24:16Speaker 3: They make it public because that's what they did, are
- 24:20Speaker 3: before anybody else outs them. Uh huh yeah, So I
- 24:24Speaker 3: guess that's kind of smart. But do you think do
- 24:26Speaker 3: you think she I see that she has a pattern?
- 24:28Speaker 3: You know, in Ariana's case, she's always gone out with
- 24:32Speaker 3: guys that are not available, what the hell, and not
- 24:35Speaker 3: necessarily whether they're married or not, but when men are
- 24:38Speaker 3: in relationships you need to respect that. And it's kind
- 24:40Speaker 3: of like that's what she goes for. She has a pattern.
- 24:42Speaker 1: Nothing's ever going to work because she wants the thrill
- 24:45Speaker 1: of the kale and then once you get it, there's
- 24:47Speaker 1: nothing left. You're bored and it's onto the next one.
- 24:50Speaker 1: So ladies, hold on to your men or your girlfriends
- 24:53Speaker 1: because Ariana's on the list.
- 24:54Speaker 3: Speaking of that, like, so do you think that women
- 24:57Speaker 3: they go after men that are not available, like for example,
- 25:01Speaker 3: Lenny's mistress that went after Lenny that was a married
- 25:03Speaker 3: man Clara that went after Pique, which was in a
- 25:07Speaker 3: relationship and she was aware of it, and Arianna going
- 25:10Speaker 3: after Ethan knowing that he was married, and you know,
- 25:13Speaker 3: with the baby.
- 25:15Speaker 5: Do you think there's a special place in hell for them?
- 25:18Speaker 5: I'm being oh, for sure. But do you think that
- 25:21Speaker 5: these women are breaking up the family or do you
- 25:24Speaker 5: think that there was already like trouble. I think it's
- 25:27Speaker 5: like they're mens trade now. I think that it's a challenge.
- 25:32Speaker 3: Uh, you know, they're yeah, they want.
- 25:35Speaker 1: To I've because some people are a little messed up
- 25:40Speaker 1: and they need attention, they need to win. They just
- 25:43Speaker 1: we're all we're all wired so differently. We're all messed
- 25:47Speaker 1: up in our own unique and special way. And you know,
- 25:51Speaker 1: do you blame just like it or do.
- 25:52Speaker 3: You blame the guy like for example, like the guy
- 25:56Speaker 3: or the girl. You think they're both they're both equally responsible.
- 26:00Speaker 2: They're both equally responsible.
- 26:02Speaker 3: I feel so too.
- 26:04Speaker 1: I think that you know, if you have a pattern,
- 26:08Speaker 1: if that happens to you once, fine, you fell in
- 26:10Speaker 1: love and you took you know, you've got in this
- 26:12Speaker 1: situation and both of you decided you don't want to
- 26:15Speaker 1: be with who you're with and your together. But if
- 26:17Speaker 1: you're serial breaking up marriages, which we kind of heard
- 26:21Speaker 1: some of that from Lisa about Lenny's girlfriend too, that
- 26:24Speaker 1: she was involved with some other married men married.
- 26:28Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, they have a pattern. They need to married
- 26:35Speaker 3: married men might be easier, that might feel like an
- 26:37Speaker 3: easier target.
- 26:38Speaker 1: There may be an easier target to loure into the sound. Yeah,
- 26:43Speaker 1: but you know, to win over in the end, and
- 26:46Speaker 1: and and you know, get their family, get.
- 26:49Speaker 3: These men to divorce the women and marry them right
- 26:52Speaker 3: away or like get engaged. That's crazy, you know.
- 26:57Speaker 2: You know, so I think there's an idiot born every minute.
- 27:00Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I think that. So in this case,
- 27:03Speaker 3: for example, Arianna and Ethan were both married.
- 27:07Speaker 1: So in this case, this high school sweetheart, right and
- 27:12Speaker 1: they just had a baby, so they've been.
- 27:14Speaker 3: Between the four of them would go out together as doubles.
- 27:18Speaker 3: So and then you know they got to that's pretty twisted.
- 27:23Speaker 3: I mean it happens a lot. Like I said, it's
- 27:25Speaker 3: where you see it. I mean, that's gonna happen more
- 27:27Speaker 3: because you have more contact with the person, so you
- 27:29Speaker 3: know whether you like them or not, you know, just
- 27:31Speaker 3: like a work, so you know more all of the story,
- 27:33Speaker 3: be careful who you go out with, and be careful
- 27:35Speaker 3: where you work, because you know that I see Steve
- 27:40Speaker 3: as a brother, and I know that you see God
- 27:41Speaker 3: as a brother too, and I know that that's never
- 27:43Speaker 3: gonna no, no, never, it's never gonna happen. But with
- 27:46Speaker 3: some other girls in the group and friends that stay away.
- 27:50Speaker 2: Oh yeah, hell yeah.
- 27:53Speaker 1: But you know what in my group, Steve's like zero
- 27:57Speaker 1: interest in anybody in our group.
- 28:00Speaker 3: Oh I know, and saying, but what I'm saying is
- 28:02Speaker 3: get like by the time that you get to our age,
- 28:04Speaker 3: you know what I mean, it's like we've just seen
- 28:07Speaker 3: it all. We've been it, We've lived so much, We've
- 28:09Speaker 3: had so many like life experiences in Mason Cuento like
- 28:13Speaker 3: they're not right now, I mean not in Masim going.
- 28:17Speaker 3: You know, it's like Meloya said, which is a different story, right,
- 28:21Speaker 3: but you know you have to keep your eyes open,
- 28:23Speaker 3: my friend, and be careful who And this is like
- 28:25Speaker 3: what I try to tell like the younger people, but
- 28:27Speaker 3: they have to go through it themselves because me just
- 28:29Speaker 3: like by looking at somebody, I'm like an X ray
- 28:33Speaker 3: of them. I can tell you exactly how that's going
- 28:35Speaker 3: to end up.
- 28:35Speaker 2: Miami is a breeding ground of just oh my.
- 28:41Speaker 3: God, they're just like everyone's so hungry of someone to
- 28:46Speaker 3: take it. And the thing is like they don't even
- 28:48Speaker 3: know why they want your guy. They just, you know
- 28:50Speaker 3: what I mean, they don't even know your guy. Like,
- 28:51Speaker 3: for all they know that you could be the biggest asslehole,
- 28:54Speaker 3: but they they just want your guy because you have
- 28:57Speaker 3: because you have a certain lifestyle. Lifestyle.
- 29:00Speaker 2: Yeah, but I want your lifetime. I want your asshole, right.
- 29:06Speaker 3: But I remember coming over and Lisa when she said
- 29:09Speaker 3: the news about Lenny. I was like, I took it
- 29:10Speaker 3: like it was mine, like you know what I mean,
- 29:12Speaker 3: like it was him doing it to me. Yeah, Oh
- 29:14Speaker 3: you know what, No, this is the best thing that
- 29:17Speaker 3: happened to her. And I feel like a lot of times,
- 29:19Speaker 3: you know, at least, I mean, I don't know this.
- 29:21Speaker 3: I can't speak for other women, but and I guess
- 29:24Speaker 3: as they're going through it, you know, I'm sure like
- 29:26Speaker 3: when Shakira was going through it, it was like horrible
- 29:29Speaker 3: for her and she didn't wish that and all that.
- 29:30Speaker 3: But now that she's on the other side, she's like,
- 29:33Speaker 3: oh wow, yeah, you know, and she's like, Okay, I
- 29:36Speaker 3: didn't sometimes you get so caught in the middle of
- 29:38Speaker 3: it that you don't even realize it. But after you're like,
- 29:40Speaker 3: oh shit, like this was actually good for me. Obviously,
- 29:42Speaker 3: it's not good when you're going through because it's painful,
- 29:45Speaker 3: but you know, after all that pain, you know, then
- 29:47Speaker 3: you know there's there's pleasure and she's having a lot
- 29:50Speaker 3: of fun, and so of these women that have gone
- 29:53Speaker 3: through it.
- 29:54Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what, Lisa is very very lucky that
- 29:57Speaker 1: in a town like Miami that is very hard to
- 30:01Speaker 1: find somebody that she found somebody that's been through rough
- 30:05Speaker 1: times with her, because it's not easy.
- 30:06Speaker 2: You know, this has been hard for her.
- 30:08Speaker 3: She talks about demonstrated, he's really demonstrated to her that
- 30:12Speaker 3: he cares for her and he loves her.
- 30:15Speaker 1: He listens, he's patient because they're they're in the thick
- 30:18Speaker 1: of it and it's not an easy divorce like we
- 30:20Speaker 1: read it in the news. Imagine what goes on at
- 30:22Speaker 1: home behind closed doors. The conversations have to happen and
- 30:25Speaker 1: happen and constantly talk about it and talk about it,
- 30:27Speaker 1: and he's still there.
- 30:28Speaker 2: So she's very lucky, very lucky.
- 30:30Speaker 3: She has that as a loving, sweet person and she
- 30:36Speaker 3: deserves to be happy. And you know, sometimes when you're
- 30:39Speaker 3: in these toxic relationships, you know, you don't even realize
- 30:42Speaker 3: that that there's something better that you're in it, and
- 30:45Speaker 3: that's not supposed to be like that, Like there's you know,
- 30:47Speaker 3: it's not okay, like you do not have to get
- 30:50Speaker 3: up with those things that's not okay perpect. She's a
- 30:54Speaker 3: good man now and she's you know, seeing you know,
- 30:57Speaker 3: something different and you know she's in a real relationship
- 31:00Speaker 3: with somebody that's you know, that cares for her, entreats
- 31:02Speaker 3: her with respect. Yes, and you know it's she already won. Yeah.
- 31:06Speaker 1: I had a very bad relationship, and every day that
- 31:11Speaker 1: I wake up next to see him, I'm like, thank god.
- 31:14Speaker 1: And I thought I wasn't going to be able to
- 31:16Speaker 1: ever find anybody like that person I was with. But
- 31:19Speaker 1: you know, I just didn't realize how toxic it was
- 31:21Speaker 1: when I was in it. Like I knew it was bad,
- 31:23Speaker 1: but I thought, Okay, relationships are hard.
- 31:24Speaker 2: You got to make it work. You gotta make it work.
- 31:26Speaker 2: But it was really bad. And now that I'm with
- 31:28Speaker 2: a normal, nice, saying, calm human being, he's very normal exactly,
- 31:35Speaker 2: I'm like, wow.
- 31:38Speaker 3: Well, mine I've never been normal because I like crazy,
- 31:40Speaker 3: but I've been very blessed, you know that even though
- 31:43Speaker 3: they've had different things, but they've always been good.
- 31:46Speaker 2: Good people.
- 31:47Speaker 3: Yes, and that's what I like. I'm attracted to good people.
- 31:50Speaker 3: You can have whatever they're fake thos or you know,
- 31:52Speaker 3: whatever side, or you have secrets or whatever they may be.
- 31:55Speaker 3: But they never harmed me. So with that being said,
- 31:59Speaker 3: you know, I'm very you know, I'm very no, I'm
- 32:02Speaker 3: very lucky because I see it the same way. You know,
- 32:04Speaker 3: even though they didn't work, but you know, there there
- 32:08Speaker 3: were good people and and and and it was you know,
- 32:12Speaker 3: a good you know relationship for me, because a relationship
- 32:15Speaker 3: there has to be love and respect. Because if Lenny
- 32:18Speaker 3: would have had any love or respect or p K
- 32:21Speaker 3: for Shakira, Lenny, for for Lisa and many other men
- 32:25Speaker 3: that don't know for women, they would have never acted
- 32:28Speaker 3: the way that they have with their spouses and with
- 32:30Speaker 3: the partners. So to me, that's like the end, because
- 32:34Speaker 3: to me, love is everything, and when when you love
- 32:36Speaker 3: a person, you.
- 32:36Speaker 1: Can fall out of love, but they handled things poorly.
- 32:40Speaker 1: You can fall out of love, but you can never forget.
- 32:43Speaker 3: You can never forget that there was love, and I'm
- 32:46Speaker 3: like that kind of woman, like I like to focus
- 32:47Speaker 3: on the good and and in every relationship there's good.
- 32:51Speaker 3: I mean there's bad also, but like focus on the good,
- 32:53Speaker 3: especially when you have kids. It's like I have you know,
- 32:56Speaker 3: you have these two beautiful kids. I mean, okay, fine,
- 32:58Speaker 3: we didn't get along. We can we don't have to
- 32:59Speaker 3: be again. And that's why there's divorced. But the way
- 33:02Speaker 3: you handle things afterwards says a lot. And these two
- 33:06Speaker 3: men that were talking about to me have shown zero
- 33:09Speaker 3: love and respect for themselves either or for their families.
- 33:12Speaker 3: So I have no respect for any of them, truthfully.
- 33:25Speaker 3: Have you been reading about Lizzo and how she denies
- 33:27Speaker 3: allegations in her former dancers lawsuit. Three dancers have accused
- 33:31Speaker 3: the Grammy winning singer of creating a hostile work environment
- 33:34Speaker 3: during the Grammy winning Singer's Special tour. The law who
- 33:38Speaker 3: filed in an LA Superior Court, claims that the dancers
- 33:40Speaker 3: were exposed to an environment of sexual harassment and weight shain.
- 33:45Speaker 3: In one legend incident, a dancer claims Lizzo wanted to
- 33:48Speaker 3: know why the dancer had gained weight. In another alleged incident,
- 33:51Speaker 3: the dancers say Lizzo made them touch nut performers in
- 33:55Speaker 3: a club in Amsterdam. Lizzo says she never sexually harassed
- 33:59Speaker 3: the dancers, and as a victim of weight shaming herself,
- 34:02Speaker 3: she would never do it to someone else now, Lizzo
- 34:07Speaker 3: responded on her social media and this is why I
- 34:10Speaker 3: hate social media. I mean, it's so powerful, but you
- 34:13Speaker 3: can write and say whatever you want. I mean, this
- 34:15Speaker 3: is all everything is like so public, like the entire
- 34:17Speaker 3: world knows about it, and truthfully, we really don't have
- 34:19Speaker 3: all the information. We can read one article on that thing.
- 34:22Speaker 1: This is why magazines and publicists are out of business,
- 34:25Speaker 1: of course.
- 34:26Speaker 3: I mean, this is just crazy. This is like every second.
- 34:28Speaker 3: So usually this is what Lizzo responded on her social media.
- 34:31Speaker 3: Usually I choose not to respond to false allegations. But
- 34:34Speaker 3: these are as unbelievable as they sound, and two outrageous
- 34:38Speaker 3: to not be addressed. These sensationalized stories are coming from
- 34:42Speaker 3: former employees who have already publicly admitted that they were
- 34:45Speaker 3: told their behavior on tour was inappropriate and unprofessional. Lizo
- 34:49Speaker 3: was essentially saying that the dancers are disgruntled former employees
- 34:52Speaker 3: who were terminated. Do you think a male performer would
- 34:56Speaker 3: be able to use that defense. Um, listen, Okay, first
- 35:01Speaker 3: of all, let's take it back because there's like a
- 35:03Speaker 3: lot of information. Yeah, okay, Like what are your thoughts
- 35:05Speaker 3: on that? Like, what do you think do you think
- 35:06Speaker 3: of Lizo? I mean data, what do you think?
- 35:09Speaker 1: The minute I saw it in the news, I was like, hmm, I.
- 35:14Speaker 3: Believe these stories.
- 35:16Speaker 2: I believe them.
- 35:17Speaker 3: Oh you do. I don't. I believe them, and I
- 35:23Speaker 3: there's fire, I mean, there could be something, But Marisol,
- 35:26Speaker 3: we're living and own these times that anybody can go
- 35:29Speaker 3: out and make these allegations and accuse people of everything. Okay,
- 35:34Speaker 3: I mean it's all day long, you know, you know
- 35:37Speaker 3: what they do it to Lizzo? I mean, are they
- 35:39Speaker 3: going to do it to you know, to like the pool,
- 35:41Speaker 3: to the pool guy that like came to your house
- 35:43Speaker 3: and cleaned your pool. Then nobody knows. Nobody's going to
- 35:46Speaker 3: accuse him of doing anything but somebody like Lizzo, you know,
- 35:49Speaker 3: somebody like Well, but no one's.
- 35:51Speaker 2: Going to hear about it because we're not they're not famous. Well.
- 35:54Speaker 2: I read up a lot about it, and there were
- 35:57Speaker 2: actually quite a few people that had worked with her
- 36:00Speaker 2: over the years that had similar complaints.
- 36:05Speaker 3: Okay, which wasn't the fact that she's rude and that
- 36:08Speaker 3: she mistreats people and she's full of herself and she's.
- 36:10Speaker 6: A da going to tell you that she had an
- 36:14Speaker 6: Oscar nominated filmmaker working on a documentary of hers and
- 36:19Speaker 6: she quit because she said she was arrogant, self centered,
- 36:23Speaker 6: unkind bullied her and wasn't.
- 36:26Speaker 3: The girls on our show and many people that we know,
- 36:28Speaker 3: not me, you know what, but it's true, And you
- 36:33Speaker 3: know what, but I don't care. I'll get another job.
- 36:35Speaker 3: You just can't make, you know, a lawsuit against somebody
- 36:38Speaker 3: because they thought she was rude in this and that
- 36:39Speaker 3: and the other. That's what there was.
- 36:43Speaker 2: But you can't have all of a sudden, all these
- 36:45Speaker 2: other people are saying the same thing.
- 36:47Speaker 1: And by the way, I went to that Banana show
- 36:49Speaker 1: on Amsterdam, and I know exactly what they were talking about.
- 36:52Speaker 3: Let's start from that. Okay, the show in Amsterdam. First
- 36:55Speaker 3: of all, Lizzo had a very poor decision when she
- 36:59Speaker 3: decided that she was gonna go with her employees to
- 37:01Speaker 3: a sex club. That's rule number one that you don't
- 37:04Speaker 3: do because you're not gonna.
- 37:05Speaker 2: Go well, there you go, she doesn't have good.
- 37:08Speaker 3: A young girl, she doesn't have good judgment. Claudo Gano.
- 37:11Speaker 3: I don't know where her manager was and where her
- 37:13Speaker 3: other people.
- 37:14Speaker 2: You know, she's making people fondle titties and they're.
- 37:18Speaker 3: What makes anybody do because afraid. Oh yeah, right, Oh
- 37:24Speaker 3: that's a good one.
- 37:25Speaker 2: She's afraid.
- 37:25Speaker 3: Oh yeah. Really, you know, Liza would have respected her
- 37:28Speaker 3: more if she would have said she.
- 37:29Speaker 1: Was chanting a song and bullied her into doing and
- 37:31Speaker 1: she's like, you know, I don't lose my job.
- 37:33Speaker 2: I'm just gonna go do it.
- 37:36Speaker 3: She wanted to touch it, you know, she wanted over. Yes,
- 37:41Speaker 3: those days are over. First of all, I feel bad
- 37:44Speaker 3: for Lizzle because she had a moment of bad judgment.
- 37:47Speaker 3: She should have had a manager there. She should have
- 37:48Speaker 3: had a team of people telling her.
- 37:50Speaker 1: You know what, maybe great, maybe her team caddles her
- 37:53Speaker 1: and lets her do whatever she wants.
- 37:54Speaker 3: And you know what, after everybody had fun at the
- 37:57Speaker 3: banana show, touching bananas and touching everything. You know what,
- 38:00Speaker 3: I'm like a different kind of breed. You know, I
- 38:02Speaker 3: don't like kiss and I mean I don't you know,
- 38:04Speaker 3: It's like I grew up in a different time. It
- 38:06Speaker 3: was like not everything was a lawsuit, Marisol. It's like here,
- 38:09Speaker 3: it's like if you go with your employee. That's why
- 38:11Speaker 3: again I'm saying, like Lizo messed up by taking her
- 38:14Speaker 3: employees or you know, or being part of this because
- 38:19Speaker 3: you don't go with your employees there because you know
- 38:21Speaker 3: what your employees are going to use it against you.
- 38:24Speaker 2: Listen to listen.
- 38:26Speaker 1: Not everybody's nice, and maybe she's all about empowering people,
- 38:29Speaker 1: but she's just breaking people down behind when she's not
- 38:34Speaker 1: you know, on camera on a stage and giving her
- 38:36Speaker 1: beautiful speeches behind the scenes, she's not a good process.
- 38:40Speaker 3: If you don't like your boss, you quit or you
- 38:41Speaker 3: find your another job. You're not going to sue your
- 38:43Speaker 3: boss for being mean to you. What is that?
- 38:45Speaker 2: You know what?
- 38:46Speaker 1: We have those options. Not everybody has the option to
- 38:48Speaker 1: quit a job, Alexia. Some people really really need the
- 38:51Speaker 1: money cannot quit a job. They just don't have that luxury.
- 38:55Speaker 3: Marasol, this sounds I don't have all the information, but
- 38:58Speaker 3: I'm just tired of just people taking advantage of celebrities,
- 39:04Speaker 3: taking advantage of you know, people that are well known,
- 39:08Speaker 3: of public figures. Just what do they want? You know
- 39:10Speaker 3: what they want. They don't want a better work environment.
- 39:12Speaker 3: They want money. That's what they want. They want money,
- 39:15Speaker 3: And I don't I have a problem with that. If
- 39:16Speaker 3: you're really trying to make the work environment better, then
- 39:19Speaker 3: you know, kudos to you, and I support that.
- 39:21Speaker 2: Listen, I was. I wasn't.
- 39:23Speaker 3: I wasn't. You know, don't go with your boss after
- 39:25Speaker 3: a concert because you guys, you know, had a great
- 39:28Speaker 3: time and go party with your boss.
- 39:31Speaker 1: To be with me and you'll want you to keep
- 39:33Speaker 1: me company. Who knows? Who knows what the situation was,
- 39:36Speaker 1: and they felt like I have to go. It was
- 39:37Speaker 1: under duress, you.
- 39:38Speaker 3: Know, they want to keep their jobs. You know what
- 39:43Speaker 3: I saw what's happening in this country.
- 39:45Speaker 2: I saw this video. Hap let me tell you something.
- 39:48Speaker 1: I saw a video of the three dancers and they
- 39:52Speaker 1: were they were doing a live interview. Those girls were broken.
- 39:56Speaker 1: Their little souls look broken. I saw it in their faces.
- 39:59Speaker 1: That's they walked.
- 40:01Speaker 3: In there and another good actresses, but not that answer.
- 40:06Speaker 3: Not actresses. Yeah whatever, It's kind of like the same
- 40:09Speaker 3: thing because you're performing when you're on stage. So my
- 40:12Speaker 3: thing is this, were they all over age? I don't
- 40:14Speaker 3: know what were their ages. Let's stop buy that. I
- 40:16Speaker 3: don't know.
- 40:16Speaker 1: I don't think they look like they're in the twenties.
- 40:19Speaker 3: Okay, so they're over age. And by the way, when
- 40:22Speaker 3: somebody feels uncomfortable, and these are all women, like you said,
- 40:25Speaker 3: it's not like they were thirteen or fourteen years old. Now,
- 40:27Speaker 3: these are all in their twenties that are traveling the
- 40:30Speaker 3: world and have been doing this for years already probably.
- 40:33Speaker 2: And they don't want to lose their gig.
- 40:35Speaker 3: Nobody. I'm telling you is if they walk into the
- 40:39Speaker 3: bananas and to the section and they're not they don't
- 40:41Speaker 3: want to be part of it. Oh they meet excuses,
- 40:43Speaker 3: you can say, because I've been in situations in my
- 40:45Speaker 3: life that have not liked and I have failed, and
- 40:48Speaker 3: I've said, you know what, I don't want to be here.
- 40:50Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know. They're women that nobody like me.
- 40:53Speaker 2: I've always stod my grands and you know, to lose
- 40:56Speaker 2: their job.
- 40:57Speaker 3: I see, uh huh. They were afraid to lose their job.
- 40:59Speaker 3: So then what they're going to do now, go tell
- 41:01Speaker 3: and lizzle.
- 41:02Speaker 2: I follow, Well, that's what they're doing.
- 41:04Speaker 1: Her former creative director also came for He said he
- 41:06Speaker 1: was proud of the dancers that he had the same abuse.
- 41:09Speaker 1: I mean, there's a trail of people.
- 41:12Speaker 3: Abuse, But what kind of abuse are you changing? What
- 41:15Speaker 3: kind of abuse?
- 41:16Speaker 1: They're saying that she's unkind and she bullies and she's
- 41:19Speaker 1: a narcissist.
- 41:21Speaker 3: Okay, please, that's that's the word of the day. That's
- 41:25Speaker 3: the word of the year. The narcissist. Lenny's a narcissist.
- 41:29Speaker 3: All the men are narcissists. Now, narcissist. Actually he is,
- 41:33Speaker 3: but I'm saying Lenny is, but I had never heard.
- 41:35Speaker 3: But I'm just saying, like the words now that everybody
- 41:38Speaker 3: is overusing is gas lighting. They were gaslighting, she was
- 41:41Speaker 3: gaslighting me. He's a narcissist. It's like people are just
- 41:44Speaker 3: throwing out all these words out there just to make
- 41:46Speaker 3: it seem and they don't even know what they're saying.
- 41:47Speaker 2: I mean that this doesn't happen that often, so I
- 41:50Speaker 2: mean when they're smoking their spine.
- 41:52Speaker 3: Are happening every second that we're talking about. The part
- 41:55Speaker 3: that I think is bad is what I'm telling you,
- 41:57Speaker 3: where Lizzo had bad judgment and going putting herself in
- 42:01Speaker 3: that position, right, she should have her and her team
- 42:04Speaker 3: better judgment than to put and go take your employees
- 42:07Speaker 3: to that kind of a setting, an environment they didn't
- 42:10Speaker 3: have to go because if right now, the girls at
- 42:12Speaker 3: the beauty bar, I want to take them out for drinks,
- 42:14Speaker 3: like they don't have to go, but you think they're
- 42:16Speaker 3: gonna lose their job if they don't go with me
- 42:17Speaker 3: to a sex club or to.
- 42:19Speaker 1: You're traveling, you're on tour. There's a camaraderie. It's a
- 42:22Speaker 1: different thing, you know what I mean. Who knows the
- 42:24Speaker 1: kind of thing she would say. Who knows the kind
- 42:27Speaker 1: of stuff she was saying. Apparently she was abusive and
- 42:30Speaker 1: they were scared. They want they didn't want to lose
- 42:32Speaker 1: their job. Until everybody just kind of like was.
- 42:34Speaker 3: Well, I mean that's their story and they're going to
- 42:36Speaker 3: stick to it.
- 42:36Speaker 1: All right, So we're gonna create it. We're gonna create
- 42:38Speaker 1: a disagree on this one. I love talking with you, bro,
- 42:42Speaker 1: It's always a pleasure. And like usual, I'm gonna leave
- 42:45Speaker 1: this podcast and pick up my phone and call you
- 42:47Speaker 1: because has to get chief Miando, because we always have
- 42:50Speaker 1: so much to say.
- 42:53Speaker 3: All these topics today, all these topics today had a
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- 42:59Speaker 3: I could just be saying I pull forward throughout the
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- 43:02Speaker 1: That's our automatic response for everything. It was so much fun,
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