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Bonus: Athletics LLC S3 E32 'Sir Lucious's two cents' November 18, 2022 · The Gill Athletics Track and Field Connections Podcast

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We are much more horrifying show this week so I'm going to come
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at you very even-keeled like over and say hello everyone.
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Welcome to another fun athletic. Sole C and then we go ahead and
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develop really there. It's lucious.
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How are you? And then I go to the other side
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and then we'll see how this goes.
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You know, it's that time of year, you know?
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We're Thanksgiving around the corner.
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Yeah. How how do you get exactly this?
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This is by far one of the fastest moving fall at Falls.
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I've ever been a part of and yeah, I don't know how we got
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here but you know, I've got some work to do to January.
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Who's put it that way, right? And we did happen to beat you
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and women's basketball tonight. So, oh, that sucks.
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This is true. Yeah.
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Hey, we're on the comment now don't don't don't sleep anyway.
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We are 51 votes for top 25. In this past.
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We're moving up and lost 50 of them tonight.
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By losing the TSU, And give him five minutes because that's what
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we promised him last week and he he's written some notes for us.
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Absolutely. And yeah, I appreciate you.
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You know the EP being generous enough to give me some time to
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discuss the what, what? We call the college football,
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playoff in my extreme colleague Clyde refused to call the
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playoff, but so, but you know, I we there's been a lot of talk on
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the in on these tiles about The foolishness will call it
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romantic the shenanigans and all the stuff.
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The SEC bias so that all right, which I have found comical and
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now that I've done what I tend to do, I put I put my Governor
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had on the last week. I did a very deep dive into what
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is the college football, playoff or non-playoff York lie.
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So you know, so it was said one of these tiles last week that
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Three or four times. The SEC has been given an extra
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team. Probably should have had one
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three or four times which clearly has never happened.
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So, let me just give you some little revisionist history here,
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so that we can all maybe understand the foolishness that
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is the college football playoff. So if we go back to your 1 and
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14, 15 4 P, 5 teams can't make it.
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So there is no issue there. Ohio, state was the winner that
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year in Year 2015. 16, 455 chairs, Alabama wins the title,
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the first year that there's only three P5.
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Champs is the year 3 which is 1617 Ohio state was the 14 and
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didn't win the Big Ten. And the two teams that didn't
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make it. There were P5, Champs were Penn
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State and Oklahoma both had two losses, Ohio State got in
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because they because Penn State had to be, it will be those two
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because Penn State at two losses, right?
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And if I'm not mistaken Penn State beat Ohio State been
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pissed, they went on to lose. Another game, which gave him two
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losses, but it and 20, and the 1718 season.
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Again, three p5's Champions. There's one loss, Alabama, team
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that included in 20 SEC because Georgia did, but the other two
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P5 camps had two losses clearly did.
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And so on, hold on a second. Alabama and one loss, they
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didn't win the SEC because Georgia.
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Did I just said that? Did they play in the
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championship game? They couldn't have all got it
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planned championship game? I know.
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I know. I know the scenario, but here's
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the deal. Okay, the other to power five
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Champions had two losses. Clearly adding Alabama wasn't a
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problem because they won the whole thing.
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Those are. Okay.
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Okay, that's what? Okay, bye yours.
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But these are my thoughts, not your Miss, right?
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So the next year 3p 5 Champs another day. the next year for
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people Champs, The next year. 35 Champs and Notre Dame again.
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And then last year, you're two people Champs, you have the best
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group of five team, which is tendency when, which is some
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Cincinnati. I'm sorry.
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And then George is added, because they had the clothes SEC
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Championship Game loss to Alabama, and clearly Georgia
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wasn't a problem because they won the whole thing.
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So I'm still in doing my research and with my Governor
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had on trying to figure out how ESPN is picking the four teams
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to go to the playoffs. I'm still trying to figure out
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all this SEC bias because it's only happened twice in eight
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years that an extra SEC team has been added twice.
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Okay, look, you you heard me twice twice.
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Twice in eight years and both times when the esoteric stinking
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was added, they won the title. So I'm not sure we're all this
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conjecture and foolishness and all the other things that come
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out of you guys, mouth is relevant.
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So the Talking Heads can talk, all they want, the narrative can
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be pushed all at once. Then the day as I tried to tell
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you guys last week is this is decided on the field because the
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years were the extra team has been added.
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They've had one loss, everybody else.
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Add to so there's justification. Just freakin pretty way back to
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the back to this year because I'm sure there's going to be a
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plethora of nonsense is about to be Speedway, kick kick, so
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that's up to see.
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But again, what I said, you now want to give me a retort Try to
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prove your point. We have been listening to your
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point for three years. The point of the point that the
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facts are the facts reading is fundamental, I say, shallow dive
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because you looked at since it's been 14 and this conversation is
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about nailed as been about the college football, playoff and it
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was no playoff before. Okay, that's fine.
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That's why I said a shallow dive because my conversation is
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always been about the BCS and how it was created.
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And my team is of the conversation every week because
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the chaos that the committee's going to pick the 14th.
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I think based on what here, but that based on what to see.
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There you go based on what based on what.
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So but it's happened twice in eight years.
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That's quite the trend. Isn't it?
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25% of the time? I Twice in eight years, I
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appreciate everyone wind and, but again, back to my point,
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which you will never want to hear.
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But that's what the 25% of the time that they did it, the team,
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they added one of the title. So clearly they belong, But
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what's that mean? It means the killer proof.
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It means those things are actually exclusive.
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They don't have anything to do it twice that it happened.
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You can't erase that. The twice that the SEC team
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since he was added to the player where nobody thought they
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belong, that team into being the best team in the country, on the
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field, which is where the championship is what we greatly
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appreciate. So lucious has extra credit and
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extracurricular work but and we around we want to talk about.
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That's what Teams right now.
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I think Georgia runs the table and they get it done.
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I think TCU contrary to popular belief wasn't table.
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Gets it done there. I think there's a team of
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Destiny team of Destiny this year.
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They find a way. I think that, you know, the, the
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caveat to the whole situation is the Ohio State.
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Michigan game. If Michigan goes into Ohio,
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State and losses by three points, they're still both going
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to get it. now, if Michigan Michigan goes into how State and
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blasts Ohio, State Tennessee is getting it, As long as Tennessee
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wins out, you know, if Ohio State even if while State loses
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a close game to Michigan, even though they're at home, they
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still might have a slight Edge over Tennessee and getting in
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maybe. But I think the whole key to the
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Big Ten getting to is Ohio, State beating Michigan, an
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overtime, or by last second field.
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Yeah. But and I in the right and my
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mind in the right world, it's Georgia, Ohio State Michigan.
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Again and TCU the way it is now and if one of those teams slips
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up tennesseans in USC has a hard road to get in because they got
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to have that, don't control their own destiny.
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You gotta write that down to, you got right down to it.
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What is for is It's the current for right?
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My correction is the sticker for debate that depending depending
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on the Ohio State Michigan game after ha State machine game is a
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blowout. Or not that close.
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Then I think Tennessee gets in over the loser that get Do you
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saying TCU wins rest of their games?
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Right. Absolutely, I believe that.
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I'm on. I'm on board with that too but
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I'm glad you guys are all on board now.
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I mean, we're not all on board. Oh, I know.
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You're not on board. You're never going to be on
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board because you want the chaos so I absolutely want the K.
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I know. So that's why I still get so mad
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that we created ourselves, you know.
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So, I felt like the one loss that
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was lurking was against Texas and now that now that they've
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beaten Texas, I think they are not going to lose.
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Until they get to the tournament.
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I'll say this tcu's defense is not.
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It's not good enough to hold Texas to three points, meaning
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they played out of their minds and did it right?
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That what the free seven points they got on.
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The fumble recovery is a joke. Yeah, but I will say this their
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defense is a whole lot better than most people thought they
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were absolutely like a whole lot better.
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They're dbe's and safeties. And this is this is histamine.
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Since what's his name was there? I mean that is what huh
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Patterson there. Yeah that is what they've hung
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their hat on forever and it's no different this year.
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They have some animals in their defensive backfield it is.
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I mean it's pretty clear. What's what I think is very
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interesting and it was exposed in the Texas game, is that
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there, those kids are obviously fear Alice because they were
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facing better athletes. Oh yeah, life.
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The the skill position guys, at Texas are better athletes and
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are faster than already. Yeah.
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And then all of the cornerbacks and safeties at NDSU and they
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were Fearless. Yeah.
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And I give him credit, like they look, they played.
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Yeah. Very, very, very aggressive
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sound football. Yes.
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That that sounds like a very that sounds like a pretty big
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indictment of. Staffs or reward to coaching
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staffs of at TCU. I think for me I would say it's
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a big reward of coaching staffs. I think that the TCU coaching
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staff is coaching their buns off.
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I would agree with that II. Gotta tell you.
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I forgot how bad the Big 12 was this year.
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Just recently looking at it, Kansas State's and second place
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she by. Okay, wait stop.
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Before you say another word. I want to say for the record, if
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y'all with you all remember and you can rewind this tape, I told
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you Kansas state was was the second best team in the
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conference a month ago. And I told you, the Kansas state
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is far better than people give them credit for like you're
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doing right now. I'm telling you right now Kansas
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state is a very good Good football team and they got not
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one, but two very Dynamic quarterbacks.
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Well, that all may be true. I guess we'll be finding that
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out sooner rather than later. But you know, they did play
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earlier in the air, right? And I think TC won that game at
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home by like a 10-point, something like that, something
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like that. But if the big tail, if the Big
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12 rules are still the same way that I believe that they are
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Then that means Kansas State and TC.
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You're going to have to have a rematch in the championship game
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on a neutral field as long as they both run the table.
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Yes, right so well kit, tcu's in the championship game, sure.
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But but this is about the conversation is, ultimately, can
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t. See you make the final four and
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in order to do that they obviously can't lose at all,
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correct? You know, if you're telling me
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that the Big 12 championship game is going to be TCU versus
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Kansas State. Then as much as I'm a route for
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chaos, I don't really think that tcu's going to lose a game so
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they'll probably end up in, I don't imagine.
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So here's my issue. I know I know your tone.
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Okay. And here's what I'm going to
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tell you. TCU versus Kansas State is a
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better game than whatever the Pac-12 championship game ends
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up. Well right now the Pac-12
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championship game looks like USC versus Oregon and I would
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imagine that that's better game. First of all, it USC is almost
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certainly going to lose UCLA because they fumble the bag
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every time it's his Pete Carroll's been gone like well.
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Okay. See and and this is I mean this
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is Like this is one of these football conversations that
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really have nothing to do with anything, right.
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Like right, like a girl in his time there and those athletes
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have absolutely nothing to do with Lincoln Riley in these
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acts. That's fact.
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And honestly, Lincoln Riley's ability to coach has almost
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nothing to do with with the team that he currently has, because
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it's an assemblage of kids. He stole from Oklahoma and kids,
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he didn't even recruit that at USC.
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And so it's a, it's a hodgepodge and stuff and I went to his
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team's and he isn't They're doing a hell of a job.
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So listen, can you SC lose to UCLA?
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Of course, they can because UCLA's a good football team and
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it's a rivalry game and you know there are no rules, right?
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So whatever is going to happen is going to happen.
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The Pac-12 has done what it has always done, which is eat
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itself. It's almost impossible.
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It is impossible to go undefeated in the Pac-12.
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It's been done. One time legitimately since
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2001. Yeah numbers don't lie on that.
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Okay, so it's it's not a surprise that no one made that
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route happens. So TC you should buy all
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evidence run the table and if they do they should be in the
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final four by, right? I will say that they should be
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in their do. I believe that there is a lock
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to be in there if they do that. No.
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Because again, if LSU makes the championship game and wins it,
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they're going to be In Georgia, will be in the Big Ten Champion
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undefeated. Absolutely begin in the
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conversation will be is TCU undefeated with the
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championship. Truly the one of the best four
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teams over Tennessee. And, you know, that's going to
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be the problem and I'm telling you, it won't look.
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That is not going to be a conversation because TCU, look,
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their own ranking. System is what is what is going
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to lock TCU in, if they win the rest of their games.
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They're the Big 12 Champion. They will be here.
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I'll bet all of the money would have gone, so I would hope so
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but that wouldn't even be a conversation.
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If it was Texas or Oklahoma they just begin, it wouldn't even be
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part of a conversation. I will not argue with you
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because that is probably true. So but it's a conversation for
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people like ourselves that don't matter.
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It has no voice that I don't know.
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It's a conversation for the people that do matter.
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They're happy. No.
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How would you know that bro? They step out and tell.
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You that they're having hold on a second.
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The people those people aren't in the room.
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The people in the room, you know, I hold on a second, hold
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on a second. I want you to act as if I never
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opened my mouth, because I'm not gonna do this.
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I'm not you can't go ahead and talk.
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No, no I'm not trying to because I just gave you great examples
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of the fact that this is done the right way, but you insist on
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having it your way, so have it your way.
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So I don't have a fact that every single year whoever is the
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head of said committee steps out every week and tells you what
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the people in the room were having the conversations about
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And what me and Lamar are currently.
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Discussing are the realities of how those conversations go
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because they've talked about how those conversations go every
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single year. So in a couple weeks when that
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exact conversation is reported out and I say I told you, that's
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what they were talking about. You want to look at me and act
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like I didn't say it so well I trust me I will not do that.
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See I'm not you, I won't do that.
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I will admit when I'm wrong every time what I won't do, see
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what I I won't do is I won't spend The Narrative of the
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conversation so I could be writing if I'm wrong.
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I'm wrong. I'm gonna spin.
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Exactly. You're right.
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There's nothing to spinning. Nothing at all.
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All right, all right. Well that was not credible.
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Five minutes to turned into 20 but it was good.
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I like a spirited debate is worthwhile.
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I like So, I guess this might be another spirited debate that
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because I'm talking about the most improved athlete of 2022,
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different from. So, I'm going to jump before
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everybody else jumps in the audience.
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And says, we already said this different from the breakout
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Earthly, those who made a name for themselves rather those who
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did better for themselves in 2022.
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Oof. There's so many ways you can go
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with this and now it's why I like this question is, are we
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doing separate for men and women?
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I mean, I think we should. Yes.
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Okay, we should so lucious. Would you like to do the women
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or the men? First sir, You don't have to go.
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First, I'm asking I'm asking for some Direction.
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I mean, I mean just as a gentleman, lady should always go
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first. I just wanted to hear you say it
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sir. All right.
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I'll jump in it most improved as I would Define improve.
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It seems pretty cut and dry to me and has to be Toby on the
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phone. Did she get better this year?
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Yeah, I'll just a few improvements, you know, from
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from a talented person who was always in the mix to the gold
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medalist and blows the world record away.
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Got to be most improved. Me really know who else I would
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throw a minute. Listen, obviously nobody's going
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to be like Clyde's, an idiot. I mean that's it.
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That's, that's a good. That's a good pick.
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It's not the only reason at least, once every week, we're
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going, we're just, we're going to see improvement from me.
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Is this is more of a statistical Thing.
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Versus an honors thing. And I don't know how This may be
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construed as a bit of a homer pick, but when you improve by
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500 and some change points in them, the multi of it and you
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become one of the top 10 or 15 females in the world.
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The 400 hurdles, never done it before.
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If that's not most important common, what they are most
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improved is I'm going with at all like I said, these are great
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answers. I think this is I knew this was
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going to be And very good Governor because I know your
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answers is going to be flowery and tremendous.
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I would like for you to because my answer is going to be
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controversial and I'm okay with it, it's very difficult to be
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the best person. In the world and then be the
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most improved. Wow, but I'm going to say this.
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Wow. Okay.
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A year ago. it was a race between Sid, and Delilah.
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Uh-huh, a year later. It's a race between Sid over
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hurdles and the best 400-meter runners in the world flat. like,
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I know my answer is not necessarily the best answer,
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right? Because I think that the best
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answers have been given, but I do think that sometimes People
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don't give Credence to how hard it is to improve all great.
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Right? Like the cuz the increments are
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not not as big. Right.
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But I'll say this. Like if Toby almost summer in
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1209 next year, like that's a huge Improvement.
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I don't give a damn mmm. And I'm just saying this The CID
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that we saw this year. Is way better than the CID we
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saw last year. Way better.
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Okay. You drop the mic.
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I mean that's my answer. I don't know if it's an over to
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Mike drop but it is my answer. Well, I as I was thinking about
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the answer to this question. I mean Toby I'm a sun popped
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into my head. I mean you can't you can't
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quantify what she did from 21 to 22.
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That is just insane, you know? And and the debate May rage on
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and whatever about what happened on that magical day and you
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Eugene Oregon. But look, I mean, anytime you
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break the world record in the ones in the 100 hurdles, I mean
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this this call it, what it is. But I had a, you know, I thought
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about something and I immediately started to do some
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some research. Now, does anyone know what
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Pollito ran last year? 48.
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Hi Okay, so nice. That's And 2020.
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Okay. In August of 21.
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She was 51 88 in 2020. And 48, 99 and Zurich, okay?
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So I I thought about those those two young ladies from the
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Dominican Republic and what they were able to do this year and
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how I mean I don't know that it's even being talked about
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enough. Wait what?
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Those two young ladies are doing and and but yeah I have to give
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it to Toby. My son.
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There's there's no question in my mind that she has to be the
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most improved. You know.
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And I mean well well deserved I mean I can't wait to see what
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next year holds so I like the Anna Hall argument Because it's
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the Maltese, right? Yeah, there's so many areas to
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improve. Yep.
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And the foreign hurls and I think that part gets lost.
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I know you throw in the 400 hurdles, caveat into that.
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And I think it's the best out of the box case to be made, but at
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the end of the day and I mean, this in the most respectful way
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possible. It's at a lower level, right?
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She's a world-class ass. Active.
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But everything, the highest things that she accomplished are
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not on the world stage of hi. So if you, yes, she was started
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the World Championships. I understand that that's my
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point, right? If she'd been if she'd been the
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gold medalist, well, I wasn't worth the wait, that's a
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different that's different. I said, she's not at the highest
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stage, I don't know what stage you want to run.
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She don't know. I mean, I mean the top wasn't a
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gold medalist. Alright if she if she did.
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Things she did in somehow managed to eke out the gold
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medal. I think that's a runaway
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argument. I was going to ask you a
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question because I'm not going to pretend.
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Like I kept track of the multis. I was there and I watched it and
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it was fun. How close was he to the gold
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medal? I feel like there was a gap
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there. There was definitely again.
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Yeah, okay. And so the goal of the gold
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medals doesn't play fair. She doesn't.
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So and so we have we have to learn Her with her, but she
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doesn't write a year from now, and all very well.
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Maybe the gold medalist and I wouldn't even be shocked and she
29:41
won't be entertaining The Foreigner hurdles at the pro
29:44
level. I don't imagine.
29:46
Hey y'all are crazy down there. Maybe she will, Brian.
29:52
She's not here right now but I mean, 12:42. 12:12.
30:04
Yes, the game. Look, look.
30:07
Look II. Like I said, I mean, I'm not
30:10
going to argue against Toby. And in my pic was clearly a bit
30:15
of a homer pick. And that's what our job is to
30:18
give outside the box answers because look, the whole reason
30:21
people watch this show is because they want to know stuff.
30:24
They didn't already know yes anything to use it thing with
30:28
because we again Max I'm basing my nor like I said just overall
30:31
Improvement and three tenses a lot but 500 points in a multi is
30:36
a ton. Is it in when you when you when
30:39
you take on a new event and your slowest?
30:42
Time of the year was 55 lo mein like she opened up at 55 for and
30:49
never ran 55 again. Yes.
30:55
So, so taking another Deep dive into this, and I can't help it
31:01
now, kofo, guess what? Her PB was coming into 2022.
31:10
In the 400, no clue. The children 4980.
31:23
Geez. Okay, there you go.
31:28
Thank you ball went from 5037 last year to 4944 this year.
31:34
The shoes. What we're talking about here?
31:37
I feel bad for Famke bouquet by the first birthday of all time.
31:43
Oh no she doesn't. Listen every single thing that
31:50
competed in Jackie's era has the worst birthday ever.
31:53
Exactly. Absolute can't beat a cyborg.
31:57
No, no. Oh my gosh.
32:02
Listen for the 80s, right, like Jack, he's a cyborg.
32:09
Yeah. Like look, 1260 something was
32:12
really, really fast then as she ran that in heps.
32:17
Right now. Like that's that's not that much
32:20
2737 40s and yeah, I mean, yeah, okay yeah, so no big deal.
32:31
All right, switch over to the nuns lean.
32:35
Whoo. Whoo whee this one's hard but
32:38
this one's really, really, I think it's definitely things
32:41
more difficult. I'm going to go pseudo Homer and
32:47
and totally ready for one of y'all to change my mind.
32:50
But I'm gonna go pseudo, Homer and say from 4880 to 47:39 and a
32:57
metal. I'm going, I'm a role with
33:00
Trevor bastard, you know? Shout out to my Manor.
33:03
Clark. I'm on a roll with Trevor as
33:07
well with a shout-out to Champion.
33:12
Allison from 45. 52 4370. Yeah yeah yeah.
33:22
Let's not even talk about what he went through indoors.
33:26
Yeah. Okay.
33:30
I mean and indoors he went from 45 8245 flat.
33:34
Yeah yeah. So now he had he had egg for
33:37
year but I mean it's hard for me anyway to argue against Trevor
33:39
because Lord and it was just a manner.
33:42
He just And he has what you have to have in order to compete in
33:47
that event. You have to be Fearless, you
33:49
know, you have to be have the ability to come off the turn and
33:52
being triple lactate State and just put your head down and get
33:56
to the finish line. So he has that.
34:00
See, it's very interesting because I haven't given my
34:03
answer by any means, but like it's hard to pick between who
34:07
improve more Trevor Bassett or De Santos.
34:13
Because because it's the same event and it's a similar kind of
34:17
massive growth from one year to the next, but one guy won the
34:20
gold medal winner. One of the Santos 46 seconds
34:23
last year. He was.
34:25
Yeah, absolutely. But he was he was he was the
34:29
third guy. He was he when the camera gets
34:35
for me, it's not necessary. It's hard to improve by that
35:09
much in anything. Yes, you know, it's just so
35:15
here's the argument for dos Santos, he went from 4672 to
35:20
46:29 but he did it completely differently.
35:26
Now, he's 12 step in the whole, you know, he's doing what he
35:30
does. Now, here's the key.
35:32
He also took down the guy that broke the world record the year
35:34
before. Hmm.
35:36
I First. And that was the game happens
35:41
when it happens. He absolutely won the race and
35:47
War home isn't making any excuses right though.
35:50
I'm not gonna make an excuse for him.
35:53
I want to see them race this year.
35:55
Yeah he took anything from until he takes it from war but I'm
36:01
going to say this, my answer also and I'm gonna hate I hate
36:05
when we all pile on but At the end of the day like this one is
36:08
just you can't really deny it. If you just if you get in get
36:12
into it and understand the sport like What Trevor bastard did
36:17
this year. Is if you wrote it out at the
36:22
beginning of the year, right? This is what's going to happen
36:25
and then you handed it to somebody was like read this.
36:28
They would almost everybody would look at you go.
36:30
Nope. Knock it happen, too.
36:33
Much it, we're forgetting that Trevor got a silver medal in the
36:37
open 400. This is my point, is it?
36:40
I was actually there and watching that young man, like,
36:45
just slay dragons indoors in the open, 400 and event.
36:48
That's not his event, right? Yeah.
36:50
He's good at it. He's good at the quarter but I
36:53
don't think anybody saw silver medalists at indoor World
36:56
Championships out of him and to take that momentum and then
37:00
carry it all back into his is his specialty and still as as
37:05
solution says very eloquently put like Run into that
37:10
ridiculously deep lactic stays and be like not we good winning
37:16
winning. Feels better than this pain than
37:18
this Fame pain feels bad and that's just listen.
37:23
Anybody who's paying attention to understands that there are
37:27
four people to be Reckon with in the 400 hurdles on the men's
37:34
side. Now, there is not a three headed
37:36
monster anymore. It is a four-headed must Are we
37:45
missing missed certain, mr. Nitin like that's kind of
37:51
ridiculous to That is that is some cartoon Improvement.
37:55
Right there to go from 1984, 1949?
38:02
That mean a metal was well, yes, he knew I was going to mention
38:08
him, but I didn't want to be oblique Seville bills, from 1004
38:14
to 1086 986 986, sorry, Austin roesler, 48, 81 to 47:59.
38:28
You know, the flat part is that if you're just lures, a great
38:31
job with that. Dude, he did absolutely.
38:34
If you're just talking about empirical Improvement, I think
38:37
so lucious actually hit the nail on the head.
38:39
I think it's Champion else. Yeah.
38:42
Right. If you just talk about empirical
38:44
Improvement, right? Let's so like, if you put
38:47
everybody's performances on on, the the Beloved point chart,
38:53
Right? And then you put their new
38:55
performances on the point chart. I'd be willing to bet you the
38:58
champion. Allison's growth number is
39:00
largest. I hope that made sense like just
39:07
a little bit just by the just literally, by the numbers, I
39:12
think camping Allison actually improved by the most of anybody
39:16
see. And that's one of those things
39:17
where like You know, watching it to the day-to-day progress of it
39:24
like when he knew he had the injury at the end or
39:27
championships because I thought I told you guys this, he was on
39:31
his way to run in 44 seconds in Birmingham was no doubt about
39:34
that and then the injury happened and then the firt like
39:39
he was in the pool for like two and a half weeks.
39:41
And the first day back out. I'm like, what am I watching?
39:45
Like this is not supposed to be happening and like he was just
39:49
so driven like a, like, He was putting himself through like
39:52
through the ringer. He's like coach, I have to be
39:54
better out there. You keep that up.
39:56
You're going to be mine. So and then dice 24, first time
40:00
we ran in me split 40, 36 on the relay and I'm like, it's all.
40:04
So, you know, it was just great to watch that.
40:06
And, you know, the people that know Champion is he's just such
40:09
a humble hard-working kid young, man.
40:12
She called was not a kid and that just made it a pleasure to
40:15
watch. I think, I don't know.
40:17
Trevor bats, it like that, but Trevor appears to be the exact
40:22
same way, you know, like this. As hard-working humble, I will I
40:27
will, you know, take your heart out of your chest if I have to
40:32
kind of God. No, because I believe in my
40:35
heart that if other people in that event area, had that same
40:43
Ish to them. The event were getting even
40:46
better. Because I mean, because because
40:48
Russell is not going away, he's not, you know, obviously rise,
40:53
not going away. And I agree with Clyde that your
40:57
home is not happy about what happened last year at all.
41:00
Have you seen his videos? He has been posting some videos
41:06
that I don't know the psychopath.
41:11
Yes. Yes this this is going to go to
41:18
another level, I mean yeah, so again just taking a deep dive,
41:25
just popping up some things. Noah bibbing from Mauritius 200
41:32
meters went from 2146 in 2021 to 1989.
41:39
Okay? Oh my gosh, just not going to
41:48
have that conversation. And it's not like he, you know,
41:51
that was a blip. He was 20 21, 37 and 20, 20, 20,
41:56
2007, and 2018. So, he went from in 2018 year in
42:03
1098 in 2022, year, and 1003 next.
42:15
Oh my gosh, you will not break me into that.
42:26
Before we get there, a question of personal reflection for you
42:31
all as as professions profession Alice, what is the one thing
42:37
that you were told realized, or learned that change your
42:40
perspective on your professional development?
42:46
Yeah, I'll go for it. And that one down was a good is
42:48
really easy for me. And I think I've mentioned this
42:50
before in other conversations, my first year Florida in the
42:56
National indoor championships and I'm all bright-eyed.
42:59
Because I got a guy, the 60 to 200, who you mean something in
43:04
the back of my mind, I think he's got a chance, but
43:06
realistically, I know he's probably about to get drug
43:08
right. So, but throws coaching the
43:13
never want to sit at the time. Was Jerry Clayton.
43:16
And Jay Clayton said to me, I didn't want you to stay in a
43:19
warm period. Now, as a first-time coach, is
43:22
he I think I want to watch the meat.
43:24
He goes, you can watch The Middle on the monitors
43:26
downstairs, I need you to stay down there so you can see what
43:30
kind of athletes we need to win. Wow, that game changer.
43:38
Game Changer. So thank you very much.
43:41
My good friend Jerry Lee, look how long it stays y life but now
43:49
there's going to be an overflow of coaches in the warm-up area
43:51
and nobody else would have the whole entire real to myself.
43:58
I'm just kidding. I will, I'll jump in there next.
44:05
Because this was without question that humongous game
44:08
changer for me. I'm gonna piss a whole lot of
44:11
coaches off who don't like to be honest with themselves and I
44:15
don't care if you listen, this will make you better When you
44:20
are charged with coaching a group of people and you take
44:24
them to attract me if one or two of them do really well, that's
44:29
awesome. If one or two of them do really
44:32
poorly. That may or may or may not be
44:37
them. But if half or more of your
44:40
group do poorly that is not on the kids that is on you.
44:47
And you need to own it. Maybe even own it, directly out
44:52
loud to them. But get it, but go home, reflect
44:56
get it right. And everybody will be better off
45:00
the following week cycle, whatever it is.
45:04
But I think as a young coach, I wasn't necessarily A blamer.
45:10
But, you know, I kind of always felt like I was doing a really
45:17
good job with everybody, you know, and two or three kids
45:22
would really do well that week and six or seven kids, just not
45:26
quite what it was supposed to happen.
45:27
And, you know, they were a little flat or whatever it is.
45:31
And I, my first inclination was to, Wonder what they were doing
45:38
like whether they were drinking or partying, or doing this that
45:40
and the third, and they may have been doing those things.
45:43
But I had someone pull me aside and say, you know, if more than
45:48
half of them don't perform up to the level that you expected,
45:52
then that level of expectation was not put together properly by
45:57
you. and, It changed my life. It absolutely changed my life as
46:07
a coach. And if I could pass that
46:10
information along, which I hope I just did to anybody else, they
46:14
would definitely be that. Like if mistakes are made on
46:18
them. Get better.
46:22
I know the governor is going to have a better answer than me
46:32
when I was told that we were going to do this question.
46:34
I really wanted to come up with something that I thought would
46:38
be like super profound and I found myself upset at the The
46:46
thing that kept coming back to me because this is about, is
46:55
that I can't care more than kids.
47:02
And I used to have like a really, really, really big
47:07
problem with that, right? Like as an athlete, I was pretty
47:11
even-keeled. Like I never got too high or too
47:15
low on any of my individual performances.
47:19
I was able to focus and do what I need to do and perform when I
47:23
needed to perform. But when I first started
47:26
coaching, I would like to live and die emotionally with Mormons
47:31
of kids and it was driving crazy.
47:37
And at, you know, there isn't any one particular person that I
47:44
can give true credit for that for this realization that at
47:48
some point I realized that, you know, they're not me.
47:55
I can't want them to be near expecting to be me.
47:58
I can't care more about what they're doing on a daily basis
48:02
and how it's giving them, then they do And I have to find
48:07
different ways to reach them or make them care more, right?
48:10
So that was mine. And it absolutely changed my
48:15
perspective on a lot of things. And ultimately I think may be
48:19
better at what I do and my execution of it.
48:23
Yeah that's that's that's mine. I can't I can't care more than
48:29
Yeah. I would say that for me, the
48:37
When I tell my story to Young, athletes to Young coaches, young
48:43
people that are trying or thinking about getting into the
48:46
coaching game, I often go back to the six years that I sat and
48:53
just watched. And while I was trying to make
48:58
up my mind, whether or not, I wanted to be a coach and
49:02
watching some of the very best in the world, do their job.
49:07
And you know, I mean, when I started out at in Gainesville, I
49:15
mean yeah, I mean, I'm sitting there as an athlete and watching
49:19
these athletes through through a professionals mind and, you
49:25
know, in some cases I'm like almost chuckling to myself you
49:29
know because I can see them actually trying to execute and
49:33
knowing that they're not getting it right?
49:36
And Yeah, I mean, sometimes, I'm just laughing, I'm actually
49:40
talking to them. And inside, I'm just going.
49:42
Wow, this this is, this is kind of hilarious, but When I
49:50
remember asking coach path, I remember asking Dan I said, hey,
49:54
you know what, what is it? You know, what is it going to
49:57
take to do this job? And he said, pick up a rake,
50:03
pick up a shovel, pick up a hurdle, start from the bottom,
50:09
start learning, start watching the grounds crewman when they
50:13
come in and they take care of the track, start looking around
50:17
at the People that are doing all the groundwork, to make sure a
50:22
day of practice gets done smoothly, appreciate it.
50:28
And then you could think about being a coach and I was like wow
50:33
okay and again taking it with a grain of salt, you know, start
50:40
start looking around and then next thing you know I'm like
50:44
holy crap like there is a lot of Work before these athletes come
50:51
out on the track for their session.
50:55
There's a lot of stuff that has to happen.
50:58
There are cones there hurdles, there's rakes shovels, you know,
51:04
stuff has to be measured out, you know, by the time mouse came
51:07
out to practice, okay? Like there was a bunch of stuff
51:13
that had to be done and, and thankfully, I was able to see it
51:19
for what it was, appreciate it, and then learn how to be a
51:23
servant to my athletes, and completely flipped.
51:27
Switch on being a taker and just trying to take all I can just
51:33
for me to move into a situation where I am giving of myself to
51:40
the point where it's, I mean, let's call it what it is.
51:42
I mean, it's unhealthy, what we do the amount of energy that we
51:48
spend in the amount of stuff and the amount of stuff that we soak
51:52
in and the pain we see everyday. I mean yeah I mean that's not
51:57
Not, you can't truly describe what it is that we do on a daily
52:02
basis for young men and young woman.
52:06
But yeah, that period of time between working in Gainesville
52:12
and Tallahassee. I needed every bit of it to
52:15
truly appreciate. You know, what this profession
52:18
is. Big-league a yours are so many
52:28
different pieces, like layers to it in regards to just, I know.
52:31
Personally, my personal development or professional
52:34
development because of the different levels.
52:37
I've hit, you know, the milestones in regards to high
52:41
school coaching and getting into Collegiate, and then going
52:44
through the divisions, but the most resounding that's kind of
52:47
just fingered overall of it is, I can't expect anybody to
52:52
believe. I can't expect anybody to
52:54
believe in me. If I don't believe in myself.
52:57
And I can't - talk myself and I can't - so myself at any given
53:01
point because bad just it doesn't do anything.
53:05
I can't be the strongest person I can be, if I don't even
53:08
believe it myself. So, you know, during the
53:12
interviewing process during daily practices, during all of
53:17
those moments where I have to be confident in my own thought, I
53:21
have to be that. And so, you know, sometimes I
53:25
don't think it myself, but There's a thin line between the
53:28
arrogance and confidence and as long as we operate in that
53:31
confidence versus the arrogance, we're going to be successful.
53:35
So I had to learn that very quickly in order to get better
53:39
and if there's a day there's a literal day that didn't happen
53:43
and from that day on it and I looked back.
53:45
So there's others and that's those are some level to
53:51
conversation than convention conversations.
53:56
But awesome. That was, that was something
53:58
that I think everyone should hear a little tidbits and be
54:01
able to reflect on their own professional development, and
54:05
how to keep that going. So, back to the fun stuff.
54:11
Lamar, would you rather clearly? Would you rather be camouflage?
54:26
All right. You ready sir?
54:27
Yes, ma'am. Would you rather have pumpkin
54:32
cheesecake or pumpkin pie? Well, there is no question about
54:39
this. We had a argument in this house
54:42
yesterday about the merits and the shenanigans of pumpkin pie.
54:47
So, yes, without question pumpkin cheesecake because
54:52
pumpkin pies. Pretty much never going to be
54:56
eaten by me, anyways. All right.
54:59
Would you rather go skiing or ice skating?
55:03
That's a good. Sting what I mean, I guess I'll
55:05
say ice skating because I can ice skate and like, ice skate,
55:09
but I think I would like to learn how to ski.
55:11
I just never got a brother up on top of the mountain.
55:15
So the facts rather relive relive a day in your past or
55:23
root of tomorrow. Can I make changes in the day in
55:30
the past? It's reliving.
55:40
I'm not really a go backwards guy.
55:41
So if I can't make any changes or adjustments, I'll go with our
55:47
relief tomorrow. I hope it's I hope it's good.
55:52
But you rather play cornhole or Spike fall?
55:56
Oh, there's no question. I would rather play cornhole
56:00
because there will be no torn ACLs.
56:04
Listen, I've seen spike ball between for professional
56:09
baseball players, and I was 100% sure that there was going to be
56:12
at least three careers ended that day.
56:14
So if spike balls amazing but yet, no, I'm going with corn
56:20
hole. When you're coaching, would you
56:23
rather a windy day or rainy day? Coaching don't think about
56:27
athletes is the wind blowing up the runway in the pool wall.
56:33
Don't think about the athletes. Literally just said that.
56:39
Yeah, but I still have that. That's that's jeez.
56:48
I guess a windy day but you rather have a fine point pen or
56:53
medium point then five-point. Those are all my questions but I
57:00
just kind of write with no damn small sponge.
57:05
I love medium gray pants. That was question for you.
57:08
Of course you do. I'ma go with a fine point pen.
57:12
Thank you. Hmm.
57:21
For the record Solutions. I think she's bled some of her.
57:26
Shenanigan questions from you into my you know not even close
57:30
to the body for a this week, not even closer.
57:36
Yeah I do. I do appreciate her attempts to
57:40
do better but the shading is of the questions towards me and
57:47
been well documented on this, that's pretty true. so, I would
57:53
like to know, As a coach. Would you rather quote a
58:04
decathlete that has to run very fast in the 1500 to win?
58:09
I'll make it a lower level and see a title What would you
58:14
rather have to put have to win the four-by-four to win the NCAA
58:19
team? Bella.
58:21
So which one of those people would, I rather coach?
58:25
Would you rather be have to put the guy in line of getting the
58:28
win? The 1,500-meter run, while the
58:30
1500 PR to 1500 to win a NCAA title, or have to put four by
58:36
four together at to me when the meat and when the osito and you
58:41
want, those would both be awesome.
58:44
Not gonna lie. I guess I sort of kind of had
58:51
this one. I'll take the 1500 guy.
58:57
Because there's a distant places.
58:59
Mentally, you have to go into somebody else's head to get them
59:03
to do that. But both will be awesome.
59:08
Let's be clear. Got it?
59:20
Let's see. In jail for 5 years.
59:31
Anything else or being a homo? Anything else you say what you
59:36
say? Well I rather be in jail for 5
59:38
years or what to you're in a coma for 10 years.
59:41
A death of take the cola. Not even fucking close, we're
59:43
getting close. He still safe in the coma.
59:48
Listen if you have never been in a jail I've never been to jail
59:56
as a you know, active participant but I have
1:00:00
definitely been in a jail more than once.
1:00:03
There is nothing about that place that makes you say.
1:00:10
Yeah, I can hang out here for 5 years.
1:00:14
Nothing. All right.
1:00:17
Sir, would you rather watch TCU blow this opportunity?
1:00:23
It's football. Or would you rather watch Tom
1:00:27
Brady. Get number 8.
1:00:31
That's really your question. That's my question.
1:00:36
I know you don't want to see either one.
1:00:52
I really like, listen tcu's, not even my football, team Clemson
1:00:58
is and they lost. But I don't want to see TCU lose
1:01:04
just because so many people around the country are rooting
1:01:06
for it to happen. So I look, I can't listen, I
1:01:11
don't hate Tom Brady, my son, who's a Jets fan hate stuff,
1:01:15
right? He hates him so I could look, I
1:01:20
could see. Tom, Brady with number eight.
1:01:22
I don't see a scenario where it happens, but I could see it
1:01:25
wouldn't like that. I would definitely choose that.
1:01:30
Guardian. I was a fun round of what you'd
1:01:33
rather. Yes.
1:01:36
All right. So, closing it out.
1:01:38
I will bring back some Harpy props to recognize some people
1:01:41
and give them a quick little shout out here, surviving and
1:01:45
doing things nicely, right? Way.
1:01:48
Everyone put it. Shout out.
1:01:53
Sorry, I'll go first. Shout out to the most recent
1:01:56
level 2 jumps class. You just closed out their little
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six week session last week, we explored a new platform, a new
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medium. Yeah.
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So you didn't even know we were able to six weeks, level two,
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and six weeks. So we met every Sunday for four
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hours for six weeks. And it was a new, not platform,
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but vehicle has to See how it work out.
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Those are this was our pilot and some like, some didn't, some
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thought it was plentiful and some thought it was missing
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things, but kudos to you all for sticking to it and making it
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work for you. Heartbeat props to the
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University of Virginia. I mean, I don't think much more
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needs to be said, sad senseless. And just hope that they can heal
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from this and Yeah, that's all I have to say.
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Yeah. Yeah, I want you to go last
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You know. People don't I wish I could
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forget certain things people. Don't pay close attention to
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certain things like the state of Virginia has, has had some very,
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very tough tough incidents happen on college campuses, you
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know, like when the thing happened in Blacksburg, you
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know, the introduced us all to, you know, active shooter on
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campus, right? I had a kid on my campus As for
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an official visit who was from Blacksburg Virginia, whose
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brother was at school, right? He ended up, we had to get a
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special dispensation from the NCAA because he had to stay on
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our campus for three extra days because they wouldn't let him
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fly home. Hmm.
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And so, you know, like the people of Virginia are
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incredibly resilient and I know that they will Will
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unfortunately, get through this, but this kind of stuff is just
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so, so, senseless and sad. And it just it just speaks to
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just like I get like, people feel like they have this
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Birthright to like, you know, like gun laws and it's our right
1:05:23
to carry guns and it's our right to be able to get guns whenever
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we want. But the simple fact of the
1:05:29
matter is like if the guns aren't available like this stuff
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is just harder to do. Yeah.
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It's just harder to do. Yep.
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It's really difficult to kill three people without a gun.
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Yep. So, you know, I mean, obviously
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might my heart goes out to all of the people in Wahoo nation
1:05:52
and and you know, the fact that they had to have they canceled
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their last home game and you know, there's just, there's just
1:05:59
nothing but pain for them right now and, and no way to heal it
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anytime soon. Yeah.
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Well said, bye-bye, all and I definitely agree with that.
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I knew somebody would, if not all of us with address that for
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the whole issue of the week, as you all know, I'm a big
1:06:24
political junkie. Oh, man.
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That's an understatement. And honestly, there hasn't been
1:06:31
a lot in American politics to feel very great about recently,
1:06:35
but Man I'm sitting here very happy after the midterm
1:06:42
election. Hmm because Coast-to-Coast up
1:06:46
and down east west and in the middle the election deniers got
1:06:52
destroyed. Yep.
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And if nothing else that means the Americas slightly better
1:07:01
than I was given credit for and that's that's actually very very
1:07:06
inspiring to see if, you know, It gets it proves that people
1:07:12
still care about the idea of democracy, and anytime sanity
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rears its head, and balances some things back out to me.
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That's a moment to cheer leave and smile and be happy about and
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understand, you know, for me I'm very much with what I consider,
1:07:33
you know, an independent voter. I literally voted for both sides
1:07:37
of tickets in this election. Both Odds of issues in this
1:07:41
election, in my little part of the world.
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And it took, you know, left meaning, right wing and since
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you're slinging people to be able to pull this off and keep
1:07:52
all of those people away from you.
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No sense of power. Still got a long way to go,
1:07:59
still got a lot of shenanigans to to extinguish out of our
1:08:04
political discourse but the midterm elections could have
1:08:09
been a monstrous disaster actually turned out to be pretty
1:08:13
damn positive for the country. So I'm happy about that,
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definitely Harvey profile to Virginia.
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And if you live in Georgia, know, if you live in Georgia.
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Hey, please remember, sixth like please.
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We don't need this. I don't know if anybody else
1:08:36
listen to Steve Harvey, but I'll say this, like, Steve Harvey's
1:08:40
take on the audacity of them. The Republican party too.
1:08:51
Try to win us over with the brown face of Herschel Walker.
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His take on that. Oh, yeah, absolutely brilliant.
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It was visceral. It cut to the Bone, but it was
1:09:07
honest and it was just, and it just literally called it what it
1:09:11
is, right? Because it give me that the end
1:09:13
of the day. Like look there, there were
1:09:16
better white candidates. Brown candidates Heather's,
1:09:19
probably a better purpose. Well candidate than Herschel
1:09:22
Walker. It's very, very Sinister plot
1:09:27
that they are putting before us in Georgia.
1:09:30
And I meet lenita to, It's Gone on way longer than it should
1:09:34
have gone on. I'm gonna need to go y'all.
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Go ahead and handle that. But you know what?
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Sir I'm sorry I got a slide one more in there on our way out
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since you brought up a very famous comedian with a great
1:09:44
take on things. If you have not taken the time
1:09:47
to watch the full clip of Dave Chappelle hosting, SNL this This
1:09:50
weekend, do yourself a favor. Listen greatness should be
1:09:55
celebrated in any form. And that man is in a bag right
1:10:01
now that you just can't believe by when I say perfect routine,
1:10:07
perfect. There was a mic drop at the end
1:10:09
and it was perfect. Yes.
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So appreciate Dave, Chappelle, while he is at his we have them.
1:10:17
Yes. Alrighty, well, you got a funny
1:10:22
episode concluded, wrap it up, put a bow on it and you'll see
1:10:27
in a couple days so everyone have a good evening.
1:10:30
See you all next week. Bye.
1:10:34
What the last comment about stick to running with the
1:10:37
lights? Come on.
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Slo-mo voice you fast for athletics devil to see, the task
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force.