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So see everything there. So yeah, tonight we will be
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start starting in Hebrews Chapter 11 verse 20 is where
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we're going to start. Before we do though that do that
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though, I would have Melvin open us with a word of prayer.
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Sure, let's pray. Father, we come to you tonight
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and we just honor you and we thank you for this opportunity
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to dig into your word. And I just pray that your word
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would come alive to us tonight and Father, that we could
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understand maybe you and your word better and learn to trust
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You and to walk by faith and not by sight.
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And so, Father, we just pray for of the Spirit to guide us
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tonight as we go through your word.
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And most of all, Father, we thank you for redeeming us by
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the blood of Jesus and setting us free.
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So we just honor you and we glorify you 'cause you're so
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worthy of praise and honor and glory in Jesus name, Amen.
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All right. Thank you.
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Appreciate that. All righty.
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So here we are. We find ourselves about in the
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middle of the faith chapter. We've been going through each of
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these characters as we get to them and kind of talking about
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various things about them. So yeah, there's there's not a
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whole lot of running. This is a pretty continuous
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chapter that just pretty much wants to walk us through
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different examples of what God calls a precious substance, the
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substance of faith and lays it out in a multiple ways that we
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can see what he means when he asks us to believe him or what
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he asks us to have faith in his promises.
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And we can see how this was played out in all these
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different characters as lives here.
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That's that's why this book is here.
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I think that we can actually see by example how what it looked
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like in a person's lives. So with that, I'm kicking over
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to Aaron on verse 20 says by faith, Isaac blessed Jacob and
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Esau concerning things to come. And from what I could gather,
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that would have been that blessing that Esau or that Jacob
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had Esau had asked for what? He brought that food to his
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father there. Go ahead, Aaron.
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Yeah, no, I agree with that. That's what I was kind of
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looking at there earlier is here's the interesting thing
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that I don't really know the answer to is when when Rebecca
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was pregnant and she had like evidently turmoil inside of her.
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She goes and inquires the Lord and the Lord tells her you got
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two nations in you. The elder shall serve the
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younger, you know, remember like that's he tells that and I'm
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assuming she told Isaac that. Like, I don't know, it doesn't
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say, but I'm assuming she told Isaac that.
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And yet Isaac actually kind of struggles to give the blessing
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to the right person, has to be almost tricked into it.
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But the, but the one point, the only point I wanted to make
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about it is that once he did it, once he actually blessed the
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younger. And Esau comes in, he makes the
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comment, this is actually in chapter 20, Genesis chapter 27
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and verse 33. It says, and Isaac trembled very
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exceedingly and said who? This is when Esau actually comes
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in and says, he brought him food.
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He says, who? Where is he?
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Where is he that hath taken venison and brought it to me?
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And I have eaten of all, of all before thou camest and have
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blessed him. Yeah, and he shall be blessed.
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Like that's what I think is interesting is even though he
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had this struggle of blessing the right son, when he did it,
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he said it's going to be that way, right?
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You know what I mean? Like, yeah, he will be blessed.
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Like that is going to happen. And I know you didn't read the
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verse, but I kind of see that in the next verse as well.
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Verse 21, when it talks about Jacob blessing both the sons of
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Joseph, you know, they are really, you could say they're
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agreeing with what God has already said, right?
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Like they're agreeing with what God has already prophesied is
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going to happen when they hand out these blessings.
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So it is, I guess in, in specifically in verse 20 in
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Isaac's case, he recognized God's blessing was going to be
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the way it was, even if it wasn't really what he wanted.
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You know what I mean? Like he was willing to do that
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by faith, even if that wasn't really he really loved Esau
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more, but he was willing to recognize the blessing was going
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to fall on Jacob instead of Esau.
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But. Yeah.
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And, and he honored, honored it. You know, he did, he did change
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course, which, you know, I don't know how those blessings, I'm
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not real familiar with that blessing.
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Obviously it's a big deal because, you know, I mean, it
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changes that. It probably does.
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To this day, I don't, I don't know that we probably really
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understand the weight of a blessing on someone's lives
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versus not having a blessing. I, I know that in my very own
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life, I feel like I'm very blessed, more than I was prior
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to being a child of God. You know, just in so many ways,
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like things that I can't explain or things that I don't know,
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could have probably been different, but I'm just blessed.
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And so, yeah, that that's a a blessing is a very real thing in
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it. That's kind of body holing
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there. But I think it's a relevant part
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of the, the, the scripture here. It's, you know, the context is
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faith. But he's talking about a
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blessing that he could not or would not reverse, even though
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he probably would have preferred to if he could have.
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Yeah, Yeah, that's right. Yeah.
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Yeah, I'm, I'm going to come at it and live at a different
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angle, I guess. So in my mind, it's like, you
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know, before he was describing, you know, Noah and Sarah and
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Abraham, you know, and now he jumps to Isaac, you know,
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blessing Jacob and easel. And in my mind I'm like, so why
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is he even like bringing this up?
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Like it seemed, I guess what I'm getting at is it seems like a
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small thing here that Isaac did right.
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Like when we think of Noah, like he, everyone thinks of Noah's
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having great faith because he built this boat when it didn't
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rain and all this and that. So I guess to me when I look at
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this, it says by faith, Isaac blessed Jacob and Esau from
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turning the things to come. That's all it says.
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I mean, it doesn't give us a lot of detail.
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It just, it just says that by faith Isaac blessed.
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And So what the point I want to come to is that it to me, even
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these in these next verses, it seems like just kind of small
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things here that he's putting in here that happened like small
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happening, so to speak that he's talking about.
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And so to me, it shows me to me that God is he.
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It doesn't matter if you're faithful in the small things.
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God sees that, right? And he honors that.
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And because it says, I, I was going to look it up and I, I
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couldn't find the verse quickly. It says it's something in
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regards of if you're faithful in the small things, then God will,
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you know, give you bigger things.
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I think it might even say there he gives you cities to rule.
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I don't know if it that's I might be mixing that up.
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But my point is, is that when we are faithful in the small
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things, God sees that and he honors that right?
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So. Yeah, because Isaac is kindly A
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middleman, if you will. No worries.
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He's not Abraham that got the promise originally.
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He's not Jacob that winds up having the 12 son.
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I mean, yeah, Jacob that winds up having the 12 sons.
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He's kindly in the middle there. But he continued to pass on
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what? That's why I said that God did
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prophecy to Rebecca that the elders shove the younger and he
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that's right, that he was in a little bit of a struggle with
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it, but he but once it happened, he's like, oh, that is the way
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it's going to happen. Like I can't undo it.
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That is the way that is God's choice, and it will be that way.
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Yeah, what what I struggle to see there is what what faith
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that the author is writing about.
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Yeah, exactly. Faith to to recognize the
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mistake and leave it that way. As yeah, yeah, I think.
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So, oh, I do too, because that's I'm telling you, when Esau is
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crying in there saying can't you do something?
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He's like, no, I can't, you know, like I can't.
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I'm sorry. That is the way it's going to be
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like I have pronounced what God has said, and it will be that
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way, Yeah, Even though me and you both didn't want it that
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way, right? Yeah, that's, that's a good
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point. I and yeah, I appreciate you
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bringing that up now. But because really life isn't
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about being this great mighty man filled with faith.
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It actually is living a life of faith, which includes a lot of
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small little things that you just go with.
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Yeah, that's a very good point. Like that.
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Yeah, 21 by faith Jacob when he was a dying blessed both the
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sons of Joseph and worshiped leading upon the top of his
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staff. Any additional comments you
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touched on that just a little Eric already?
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Yeah. I mean, just just the fact that
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he, because that actually happened, right?
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I mean, Joseph's two sons. Joseph gets a double blessing,
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right? You know what I mean?
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Like he, he excludes one tribe and gives a double blessing to
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Joseph. And I think that that's he
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didn't really have a struggle with it.
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Jacob didn't really have a struggle with this like Isaac,
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his father did. But he is pronouncing what God
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has promised. And I think that that's the
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thing that I see by faith here is, you know, like as he's
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dying, he pronounces what God has promised and worships.
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Like in the middle of the pronouncement, he worships God
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leaning upon top of his staff, you know, so he is, I guess you
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could say in, in my opinion, Jacob is kindly one of these
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guys that finishes well, whereas a lot of other people almost
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don't finish well. You know, he's, he's about ready
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to die leaning on top of his staff and he's still pronouncing
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what God has said. Which means that he believed.
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Yeah. I mean, he obviously heard that
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God had told this, and he obviously believed that if he
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wouldn't have, he would not have passed on that supposed
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blessing. Yeah.
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Yeah, Melvin. Yeah, I don't have a whole lot
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there. I just that kind of stood out to
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me too, where he said and then he worshiped leaning, leaning
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upon the top of his staff. And if you look up that account
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there where Jacob blessed both the sons of Joseph, he was a
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very old man and was about to die.
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And so like, like you said, he finished well.
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But what was interesting to me is it says there he worshiped
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leaning upon the top of his staff, right?
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So I mean, worship can be in so many different ways, you know,
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in your life. It it's not a certain position
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or a certain way or whatever. So it's just interesting.
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He was about over the hill, just just got hit, yeah.
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Yeah, he couldn't get down on his knees and worship anymore.
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He had to lean on his staff. Yeah, Yeah, yeah.
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That's. Good.
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But I I guess I would just say that too.
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That it is. I don't really know.
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I've thought a lot about that blessing deal and I don't really
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know, but I know this. I think this is different.
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Both of these things. I what Isaac did and what Jacob
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did is different than just some general wishing good on your
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chill. This they are proclaiming what
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God is going to do, right? In other words, they're, they're
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it said concerning things to come for Isaac.
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So they're actually almost prophesied in the blessing.
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I mean, Jacob is prophet. I mean, when I'm sorry, yeah,
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when Jacob does it, he is prophesying.
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He's like Judah is going to be this Dan is going to be this
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like he is making this prophecy that evidently.
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I mean, what else could you say other than God has given him the
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prophecy? And, and I guess if that's true,
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if God's given him the prophecy that points out that he worships
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saying like we would say, Amen, let it be.
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So like, you know, like worships God for what the prophecy was.
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Well, I mean, if you think of it, you know, like this list of
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people here is all people that God said was going to be in the
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lineage of Christ, right? And So what we have to remember
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is they didn't have the Scriptures like we have today.
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And so God commanded them to pass it on to their children.
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And so I think, like you said, this blessing was more than just
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a blessing, so to speak, to bless their lives, but they were
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passing on the torch, so to speak, or the baton on to their
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children. I agree.
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Yeah, which is, I mean, I'm just kind of spitballing now, but
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isn't that what we do when we proclaim the truth of God today
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in a sense? Like, I mean, if if we say
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repent for the Kingdom of heaven is at hand or whatever, you
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know, repent, Jesus is coming back.
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He's yeah, we're going to meet him in the air.
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Whatever we do that the truth, then ultimately that's a
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blessing to the people too. You know it's not.
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I don't know what they have back in the day, like when when Isaac
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blessed Jacob there, would he have called it a blessing?
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Or was he simply speaking the truth of what God spoke to his
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son then? What says there that that Isaac?
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He said. Go take your bow and arrow and
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shoot me a deer, right? And bring me venison that I
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love, he said. So that my soul will bless thee.
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Before I die. Before I die.
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That's right. So yeah, I that kind of.
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I think it's both. I think it is.
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That's correct. Yeah, yeah.
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I think it's both. I think he is.
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He knows. That he has.
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To pass on the promise of God, but he is also pronouncing a
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actual physical blessing that comes with that promise of God
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on each person. So yeah, he is looking at it as
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a blessing, you know, because, because think about it, to
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Abraham, it was a blessing, right?
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I mean, the original promise to Abraham was a blessing.
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You are going to be a great nation.
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You're going to, I'm going to give you this land like it was a
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physical blessing and it was a promise that you're going to the
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Savior is going to come through you.
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It was 2 parts, right? And the 1st part of it was an
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actual physical blessing, and that's what they're passing on.
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Yeah, and the other part was just like giving your blessing
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to a marriage or a courtship or whatever from me to you.
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Yeah. Interesting.
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That's yeah, that's that's a cool little discussion there.
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OK. 22 By Faith, Joseph, when he died, made mention of the
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departing of the children of Israel and gave commandments
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concerning his bones. Falls in the same category as
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the previous two. Really doesn't.
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It it does, but I think there's a different twist on this one
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because think about the story. You've got God promising the
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land of Canaan to Abraham, to Isaac, and to Jacob.
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OK, the famine comes and Joseph's already in Egypt and
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Jacob has to go down into Egypt to where his son is, and they
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are established and promoted and given the best of the land of
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Egypt there. So they could have misunderstood
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that for the blessing. But Jacob, I'm sorry, Joseph
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says no, folks, you are leaving here one day and when you leave,
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take my bones with you, right? In other words, he didn't get
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sidetracked. That's what he did by faith.
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He did not get sidetracked with his promotion in Egypt, but he
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laid focus on the promise that you're going to return these
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people, is going to return to that land, not this land, but
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that land of Canaan one day and what not.
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If you go, when you go, you're going to take my bones with you,
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right? That's what he did by faith.
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Interesting. Yeah, Right, right, right.
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Interesting. Melbourne.
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Yeah, that you pretty much summed it up there, because it
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says there, Joseph, it says Joseph said unto his brethren, I
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die. And God will surely visit you
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and bring you out of this land and unto the land which he swear
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to Abraham and to Isaac and to Jacob and Joe.
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And Joseph took an oath of the children of Israel saying God
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will surely visit you and you should carry up my bones from
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hint. So yeah, that you're right.
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That's exactly what it is Aaron and it's interesting that he
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made mention of the departing of children of Israel because that
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is also part of the faith in my mind is you know, because it
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hasn't happened yet at that, but I get was many years down the
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road right What is. It almost 400. 400 yeah, so a
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long time, but he made mention of it so he believed it, right,
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He says there and God will surely visit you.
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So Joseph was convinced that God is going to come sometime.
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He didn't know how long and he's going to visit you and take you
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from this land of bondage into while they weren't bondage yet,
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but from this land into the next land.
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And so he. Yeah, again, he he simply
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believed when he said that they're going to leave.
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Yeah. That's cool.
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Yeah, no, it is. That's good stuff.
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Love it 23 by faith, Moses, when he was born was hid three months
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of his parents because they saw he was a proper child and they
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were not afraid of the King's commandment.
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Now, is this talking about Moses, Faith, Faith or his
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parents? All right, you tell me, Eric.
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You, you, you was a spoiler. That's what I was going to say.
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No, it is definitely talking about his parents faith, because
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think about the way it's worded by faith.
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Moses, when he was born, was he, in other words, you could, you
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could take that when he was born out and say by faith Moses was
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hid, right? In other words, he was hid by
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the faith of his parents, you know, when they saw he was a
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proper child. And you know, like, I do think
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that there is some significance of that.
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If you go back and look at it, he was literally a very
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beautiful child. Like he was.
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If you go back and look at the wording in the Old Testament, he
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actually was very beautiful. But I also don't want to
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diminish. It wasn't that they were saying
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we'll save him because he's such a pretty child.
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It says they were not afraid to the King's command.
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They didn't want to kill him, right?
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I mean, think about Aaron's younger than him.
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They didn't kill Aaron either, you know what I'm saying?
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So by faith, they did not follow through when the government
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commanded them to kill their children.
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That's good. That's really good.
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Melvin yeah, I did. I just wanted to point out that
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it says they're and they were not afraid of the King's
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commandment. So I just want to point out that
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when we believe that God is who He is and that He is a rewarder
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of them that diligently seek Him and that He is faithful to His
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promises, when we believe that, it gives us boldness, right?
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So that's what I see here, because then then we'll see that
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I guess a little more in the next verses.
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But that that's just what I wanted to point out.
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They, they were not afraid of the King's commandments, even
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though they could have. I don't know what would have
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happened if they would have found out, like the king would
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have found out what, what they did.
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Actually, they probably would have been killed, very likely,
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but they didn't care. So, yeah, because in this same
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circumstance, you could say, you could, you could say all the
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martyrs by faith were not afraid of the King's commandment.
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You know what I mean? Like, because that's what it
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means. It means that regardless of the
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consequence, you're going to to serve God first.
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Even if there is a penalty from the government, you know we're
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serving him. Yeah, yeah, this would have been
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a good verse to bring it up back, You know, when COVID
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people were wondering what should we do this or should we
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do not, you know, because the government and we're we're
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supposed to listen to our government.
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But in this case, obviously they, the the writer of Hebrews
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here is praising their parents for disobeying the government
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action is making the point of it, putting him in the faith
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chapter for their decision to not follow the government.
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That's pretty solid evidence that there are situations where
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you would not just do what the government does.
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Oh yeah, no, it makes me think of Peter, you know, like when he
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is when they take Peter and John before the council, they make a
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very a great statement. They say you decide like judge
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you. Peter says to the scribes and
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Pharisees, judge you, should we serve God or man like you know
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what I mean? Like he was laying it back to
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them that and if they were, if they were not on the other side
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of this argument, would have always said, oh, no, you served
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God first, right? You know, they would have agreed
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with that. So he's saying, you all judge,
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should I serve man or God, right?
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Like who? Who should I obey?
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Yeah, that's good stuff. Now we now we get to Moses
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actually here by faith. Moses, when he was come two
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years, refused to be called the son of Pharaoh's daughter,
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choosing rather to suffer affliction with the people of
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God than to enjoy the pleasures of sin for a season, esteeming
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the reproach of Christ's greater riches than the treasures in
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Egypt, for he had respect unto the recompense of the reward.
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I needed to read that all together.
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There might be quite a bit in there, but I think it's that one
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principle that he refused to be called the son of Pharaoh's
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daughter, that that trails through there.
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Oh yeah, yeah. Yeah, I didn't, I didn't know if
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he was done. Yeah, No, I I think that it's, I
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think this is extremely interesting because you actually
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don't get this detail, not, not not this Hebrews, but in Acts
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Chapter 7, you don't get this detail anywhere else.
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But in Acts Chapter 7, Acts Chapter 7 says in verse 23, Acts
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723 says, and when he was full talk about Moses when he was
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full 40 years old, it came into his heart to visit his brethren,
25:23
the children of Israel. In other words, God put this
25:26
thought in his heart, right? It came into his heart.
25:30
God put a thought into his heart and he needed to visit the
25:32
children of Israel. 24 says, and seeing one of them suffer wrong,
25:36
he defended him and avenged him that was oppressed and smote the
25:39
Egyptian. Listen to verse 25.
25:41
Nowhere else do you get this tidbit for he supposed his
25:46
brethren would have understood how that God by his hand would
25:52
deliver them, but they understood not.
25:56
God put it in his heart and said, you're going to be the one
26:00
that's going to bring these people out before he ever spoke
26:03
to him at the burning Bush, Right?
26:05
You see that in that verse? Yeah, he he God put it in his
26:08
heart, you need to go out there and visit them.
26:11
And when he stood up for the guy, he thought they should have
26:14
understood. God's put me in this position to
26:17
deliver you folks, but they didn't understand that.
26:20
So when he says back here in Hebrews 1125 and 24 there that
26:26
he refused to be called the son of Pharaoh's daughter, he
26:29
literally is making a choice. God has put his in his heart
26:33
saying you're going to deliver this people.
26:35
Or on the other hand, here I am set up to be another Joseph and
26:40
a ruler of Egypt, right? He is faced literally with that
26:44
choice and God put that in his heart and he chose by faith to
26:49
follow God, even though that was a choice of, I mean, just really
26:54
almost nothing but hardship, right?
26:56
I mean, he, I mean, and what? And here's my biggest point,
27:01
folks. That's 40 years before he
27:04
actually stepped into the job. That's. 40 years before he sees
27:08
the burning Bush and actually steps into the job that he made
27:11
this choice, right? And I think that's so like I
27:14
said, I just think that's I love that story of Moses.
27:17
I think that's so interesting. Wait, talking to talk about
27:20
taking a small thing and carrying it all the way to the
27:25
goal line like. Never.
27:27
Never never really wavered. I mean, he got angry that and
27:32
ended up getting in trouble kind of, but but he never doubted the
27:36
the mission, right. Yeah, Velvet, go ahead.
27:41
Yeah, I, I just want to point out one thing, I guess that, you
27:46
know, when you read these 3 verses, it sounds like Moses is,
27:52
you know, this great godly man. And he was right, He was.
27:57
But it comforts me when I also read that when it came down to
28:04
it, that when it came, when the rubber hit the road and God said
28:09
to Moses, you're going to leave my people out.
28:13
Moses said, look, I can't speak. Wouldn't Aaron be a better one?
28:18
You know, And God said, no, no, no, it's going to be you.
28:22
But Moses was scared like he or I guess it that would be a good
28:27
illustration maybe that you know, he didn't want to do it
28:33
there, which when you read this, it's like, you know, it seems
28:36
like he was really godly man and he was.
28:39
But it just comforts me when when you look at the whole
28:42
picture there, Moses was obedient then.
28:45
But Moses, like you said, Leon, later on, he got angry and smote
28:49
the rock instead of you know what dude, what he was supposed
28:53
to do. So anyway, that's encouraging to
28:58
me, right, That Moses was a regular man and he didn't always
29:06
do everything perfectly like God told him to do.
29:08
But it does say here that obviously Moses believed that
29:16
God was going to do what he was going to do way back when he was
29:23
in Pharaoh's house, right? Because like you said it from
29:29
the time like what was what was Moses he was 80 right.
29:33
But when he led the children of Israel out.
29:37
And so here it says that when he refused to be called the son of
29:42
Pharaoh's daughter and choosing rather to suffer affliction with
29:45
the people of God. So Moses did believe that that
29:50
God was going to come through and he believed that.
29:54
And then I another thing that stood out to me, and maybe we
29:58
can talk about that a little bit.
30:00
It says there that he esteemed the reproach of Christ greater
30:05
riches than the treasures of Egypt.
30:07
How did he come to the conclusion that just suffering
30:14
for Christ is greater riches than the physical riches of
30:19
Egypt? I didn't research that, but that
30:22
kind of stood out to me. Well, yeah, he got, hey, Andrew,
30:26
he got, he grew up in the Palestinian.
30:29
I mean, he grew up, he grew up having everything that he
30:33
literally could have dreamt of. So yeah, when he just, he had to
30:39
pick, like when he chose to go the way that he did, he was
30:43
giving up the opportunity to grow up a wealthy, wealthy man
30:47
with a lot of power. He had that right in his.
30:50
I think that's what that means, don't you, Eric?
30:52
Oh, oh, oh, yeah. No, no doubt, because.
30:54
Verse 26. It was, it was a life of ease as
30:59
Pharaoh's son, you know, or Pharaoh's daughter's son.
31:03
It was a life of ease, like I said, similar to what Joseph
31:06
had, or it was a go over here and try to lead this people out
31:11
of here. In other words, think about you
31:12
can't do both. You can't stay in Pharaoh's
31:15
house and have the life of these like Joseph did and get a hold
31:18
of this people and take them out of here.
31:20
Now back to your point, what you said, you're absolutely.
31:23
Right. He has this moment of faith.
31:26
In fact, they're in all the way down to all the way down to, I
31:35
don't know, verse 26. It is this first moment of faith
31:40
that he has in which he believes that his brethren, like I said,
31:43
you should go read Acts Chapter 7 and verse 25.
31:46
That's super. You know, that was very
31:48
informative. He, he has this moment of faith
31:50
that he sees that God's going to use him to lead the people out.
31:54
He has 40 years of doubt. Truly, he has 40 years of doubt
32:00
because he flees to the wilderness.
32:01
He had, he makes no effort for 40 years to come back and get
32:05
the people. And then God appears to him in a
32:08
burning Bush and says it's time to get over here.
32:10
And he says, oh, not me, Lord. And it goes so far that on his
32:14
way over there, God is going to kill him.
32:18
And his wife steps in and circumcises his son and offers
32:22
that as an offering to God and saves his life.
32:25
So that's encouraging to me to know that, that Moses, because I
32:32
mean, my goodness, I, I might have a weak moment that lasts a
32:37
few weeks or a month or two, but he had one that lasts 40 years.
32:43
You know, so that's. Encouraging.
32:45
So was he supposed to had gone and fulfilled his duty when he
32:51
was first commissioned 40 years prior to what he did?
32:54
I mean, I, I think so based on what access he supposed that
32:58
they should have understood how that God was going to deliver
33:01
them by his hand and they didn't understand and he got
33:05
discouraged and left. And 40 years goes by and I, and
33:09
I'm not saying I, I totally agree that God could have been
33:11
training him over there with the, you know, with these sheep
33:15
and with all this stuff, God could have been training him.
33:18
But God didn't, you know, he kind of give up on the goal
33:22
until God come back to him and said, Hey, it's time to go do
33:25
what I asked you to do 40 years ago.
33:27
It's it is the time I never thought.
33:29
About that. Yeah.
33:31
I mean, it's one of those things that I guess you could say God's
33:35
always on time, so maybe it wasn't the right time, but in a
33:38
sense it was his goal and he understood it 40 years before
33:42
that God. Wouldn't have given him the
33:44
order if he, if he wouldn't have been ready to fulfill that time,
33:48
you know, otherwise he would have said, well, in 40 years,
33:50
I'll send you, you know. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
33:52
That's right. Yeah.
33:52
Yeah. It it was still a good thing.
33:54
Andrew, I'm going to read that. We were commenting on verse 25.
33:57
Six. There are 24, five and six.
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I'm going to read verse 27 and let Aaron and Belwood that if
34:04
you want to go back and catch up on some things, whatever you
34:06
can. So verse 27 says by faith he
34:09
which is Moses for so Egypt not fearing the wrath of the king
34:14
for he endured as seeing him who is invisible.
34:19
You know it comes across the exact same lines here, I
34:23
believe, right? Aaron, go ahead.
34:25
Yeah, well, I mean, I might be wrong in this, but I think 27
34:30
shifts through 26 was talking about what he did when he was 40
34:34
years old. I think 27 almost has to be what
34:38
he did when he was coming back and taking the people out of
34:42
there. Because the reason I say that is
34:46
he actually forsook Egypt because of fear of the king.
34:49
In other words, he fled for his life when he was 40 years old,
34:52
right? So I think that this is in other
34:56
words, when Pharaoh, well, let me let me back up and say it
35:00
like this. You see this huge transformation
35:05
in Moses in the times that he approaches Pharaoh and asks for
35:10
the people to leave. When he first starts, he's
35:12
timid, he's not sure. By the end of it, he says,
35:16
you're right, you'll not see my face no more, right.
35:18
So in the process of going to Pharaoh and telling him to let
35:24
my people go, he grows tremendously.
35:27
In his faith. He, he really does, he grows
35:29
tremendously in that. So I think when it says that he
35:31
forsook Egypt not fearing the wrath of the king, I think
35:34
that's by the end of him actually leaving Egypt, you
35:37
know, and by then he's not afraid of Pharaoh anymore.
35:41
I mean think about it, when God first appears to him, he has to.
35:46
God literally says don't worry the people that sought your life
35:50
is David right? So he knows that Moses is scared
35:53
to go back for fear of his life. You know, yeah.
35:57
That's yeah, good. Stuff go ahead.
35:59
I, I would tend to agree with that Aaron, because if you think
36:03
about it, so when, when it came time to actually do it, like I
36:07
was saying over here, you know, Moses was like, dude, I can't, I
36:11
can't speak. Wouldn't Aaron be a better guy?
36:13
But then if you read there, God says, OK, look, I'm going to
36:19
give you a sign, take your staff, throw it down the ground,
36:22
you know, and the thing turned to a snake.
36:24
And so, and he said, now reach down and grab the snake, right?
36:28
I mean, I dude, I, I hate snakes.
36:32
And he reached down and grabbed the snake and it turned to a
36:35
rod, right? And so God was showing him his
36:38
faithfulness there in my mind. And so like you said, then Moses
36:46
really like, dude, this is for real.
36:49
And so when it came time to actually getting out of Egypt,
36:54
we read there how, you know, the king was very furious with
37:01
Moses. You know, he would say, oh,
37:03
yeah, I'm going to. The king would say, I'm going
37:06
to, you know, repent or come and take the frogs away and then he
37:10
act on ice and then they come into his presence.
37:13
Moses and Aaron would, and the king would get furious again.
37:17
And you see that over and over. So by then Moses did not, you
37:24
don't read that he was scared of the king there in those attacks,
37:27
so. Yeah, he went and did it,
37:30
relying rather to go with the one who is invisible.
37:35
It says here, I like, I like the choice of words there.
37:38
Andrew, go ahead. I don't have much.
37:41
Add to all that, that's good. I just also like to see the
37:47
faith characters, even Abraham also, and many of the others.
37:52
They start out not so confident, not so sure, not so solid, but
37:59
through the progression of their life and challenges that
38:03
happened, they really grew strong.
38:05
And by the time, by by the time Moses came back after he after
38:12
the 40 years, he at that point, he was relying on someone
38:17
outside of himself 100% and he had faith in the one that had
38:21
promised. At that point, he was no longer
38:24
picking up a, a, a sword and trying to take vengeance in his
38:27
own hands and kill it, killing the unjust and trying to wipe
38:32
him out. He was now saying, father, what
38:36
do you want me to do basically? And he was it was a a isn't
38:42
there a verse in the New Testament somewhere where it
38:45
talks about the Potter and the clay referring to Moses was able
38:50
to be used? I'm not sure.
38:51
But anyhow, I like how that these characters start out like
38:56
me and you, and then with their experience with God, they got
39:00
really solid. And I think that is still true
39:03
today. The more you interact with God
39:07
and ministry, you'll get more and more solid.
39:12
Water power over the clay of the same lump, to make one vessel
39:15
unto honor, and another unto dishonor, And Romans 9 is where
39:18
that was. Yeah, go.
39:20
Ahead, Eric. I was just going to say this is
39:23
actually another one of those great definitions of what faith
39:28
is. Think about this.
39:30
It says he not not fearing the wrath of the king, for he
39:34
endured as seeing him who is invisible.
39:36
OK, Think about the literal instance of that.
39:39
You're standing in front of a guy that has the power of life
39:44
and death. Like you look at him in the eye
39:46
and he fears the guy that he can't see.
39:49
Yeah, God. And that's a great difference of
39:53
faith. It really is awesome that he is.
39:55
That, that that's, that's encouraging.
39:58
My goodness, yes. Isn't that a shot of boost to
40:00
all of us? Yeah, it.
40:03
Is Yeah, it is and it keeps going here.
40:05
So we're not done with Moses yet.
40:07
Through faith he kept the the path Passover and the sprinkling
40:11
of blood, lest he that destroyed the first board should touch
40:15
them. So this is where the keeping of
40:19
the Passover kind of started it, right?
40:22
I mean, and he it says he kept it.
40:24
Go ahead, Eric. Yeah.
40:26
Oh, yeah. No, I mean, like, I don't want
40:31
to. I don't want to diminish the
40:33
verse and act like it's not just about Moses.
40:35
But also I want to say, I would like to say that really all the
40:39
people that kept the Passover did the same thing Moses did
40:43
here, right? I mean, they all did something
40:47
by faith that kept the death Angel out of their house, right?
40:50
I mean that that didn't you know that literally that's what he
40:53
says by faith. He kept the Passover and the
40:56
sprinkling blood, lest he that destroyed the first born should
41:00
touch them. So it's I mean, I don't know.
41:05
I don't I really don't know. I don't know how that worked
41:07
exactly, like geography wise, but it seems like they could
41:13
have heard maybe the people screaming in the neighboring
41:17
houses or the, you know, the Egyptians houses like it.
41:20
It almost, you know, it's like he just passed through the land
41:23
and here they are doing the thing that is keeping this death
41:29
Angel. That's that's wiping everybody
41:31
out, you know, from entering their house.
41:34
So that that was like I said, I just think that's a that that is
41:39
certainly something that he lays to Moses charge.
41:42
But it also happened to all the people that did that, you know,
41:44
all the people that applied that blood.
41:47
Yeah, Melvin. Yeah, it's just interesting to
41:51
me when you think about about that.
41:55
So it says that through faith he kept the Passover and the
42:00
sprinkling of the blood, lest he that destroyed the first born
42:03
should touch them. So if you think about that, so
42:07
God says it says there in Exodus, God says and they shall
42:11
take the blood and strike it on the two sides of the post and on
42:17
the upper door post of the house.
42:19
And you know, what if God would tell our leader, whatever that
42:27
is leading us out of bondage that we've been in for years and
42:31
years, and he would say, OK, you know, tonight the death angel's
42:35
going to come. You need to take this lamb and
42:37
slaughter it, take the blood and strike.
42:40
And you'd be like, what is that going to do?
42:43
Right? Or, you know, it seems kind of
42:45
like whatever, right? But it, it says there that they
42:49
did it. Like they believe that that it
42:53
was going to happen. And and that is the faith that I
42:57
see there, you know, that he's talking about that, that they
43:01
just followed through, even though it did seem probably kind
43:05
of foolish, but they did it. Andrew.
43:11
Yeah, the word that pops out to me is where it says through
43:14
faith he kept the Passover. He's not giving a lot of credit
43:18
to the other people that did it, I guess.
43:24
Yeah. So when I was thinking about
43:28
this, I was also thinking about when Moses put up the serpent in
43:33
the wilderness. That was also an act of faith.
43:36
I was kind of surprised that's not in here where the people had
43:39
to look and be healed in the same way kind of that blood was
43:43
there. Again, it's given us an example
43:47
of how faith works and how it worked back then and how it
43:51
delivered them, and so that we know very much how faith works.
43:58
That's that's what he's after. He's drilling it into us here.
44:00
Yeah, over. And over 29 by faith they passed
44:06
through the Red Sea as by dry land, which the Egyptians as
44:10
saying to do, which the Egyptians as saying to do were
44:14
driven. Just one more example of Moses
44:19
going and stretched doing something that physically had
44:24
no, you know, recourse. Well, and actually, if you think
44:31
about it, the focus is on the passing through, not necessarily
44:36
the parting of the water. And I mean, haven't you seen
44:40
those pictures maybe in a children's book or whatever,
44:43
that would have took some faith folks to walk through with water
44:48
on both sides and seemingly nothing holding it back, right?
44:52
You know what I mean? Like that?
44:53
I think that's what he's pointing out here is they
44:56
believed God would not bring that in on them and walked.
45:00
Through. It.
45:04
Actually, Word drowned. In other words, they walked
45:06
through the same scary thing and God did let it loose and let it
45:12
come in on them and they had to have faith to walk through two
45:15
between 2:00. Walls of water.
45:17
That was that did take great faith.
45:21
Yeah, that's right, Andrew. I'm going to mute you till it's
45:25
your turn to speak because it's given some kind of feedback
45:27
there. Go ahead, Melvin.
45:29
Yeah, you covered it pretty good there Aaron.
45:32
I one thing that stood out to me is it says there that they pass
45:37
through the Red Sea as by dry land.
45:40
So if you think about it, like you said, Aaron, you know that
45:45
did take faith for them to walk down because it was deep there,
45:49
right? So the water was real high and
45:53
but it says there that it was as dry land.
45:57
So if you drain a pond or drain a lake, it's you know what it
46:02
looks like, right? It's like all sabi and mock
46:07
basically, but it actually was firm and it looked exactly like
46:13
dry land, you know, dry land obviously to me it would be
46:16
like, you know, in the middle, not maybe not the middle of a
46:19
drought, but land that hasn't seen rain for a few days.
46:23
It's just amazing, amazing to. Me.
46:25
But Yep, great miracle, that's what it is.
46:29
Yeah, Andrew. Yeah, I just like how, I don't
46:37
know what y'all think about this, but how many times do we
46:42
do things and we're not necessarily thinking about God,
46:46
but we kind of got scared into a corner to where we did things
46:50
that we wouldn't have done if we weren't pushed into that
46:55
situation. These guys, they were looking at
47:00
death in the eyes. I mean, everybody was saying,
47:03
look, are we going to just die here?
47:05
You brought us out here to die. They didn't seem that believing.
47:13
And then the waters parted and Moses kind of rebuked them.
47:17
And they go through there and now the word, they is there and
47:22
they passed. It's no longer just he, he, you
47:26
know, they passed. And so I, I thought that was
47:31
interesting. Yeah.
47:35
Yeah, Aaron, thanks for clarifying that it it was
47:38
absolutely, you're absolutely correct that it was the passing
47:41
through, not the parting of the water that he's that he's
47:43
praying to to our minds here. Yep, Yep. 20 or 30 by faith.
47:52
The walls of Jericho fell down after they were come past about
47:57
7 days. So here we jump back a little
48:00
bit to a different story. Now go ahead, Aaron.
48:04
I think this is kind of interesting and I mean, I it, it
48:08
it's to me, you could, I guess you could say that the walls
48:15
were broke according to this verse.
48:17
You could say the walls were broken down by faith, right?
48:21
I mean, when they when God said which all these examples are
48:28
similar in this aspect of sometimes people are being asked
48:33
to do things that doesn't make any sense, right?
48:36
You know, like lots of things are being asked do this thing
48:39
and that doesn't make any sense. Well, this is one of the
48:42
greatest one because it's like, what good is it going to do for
48:45
us to go walk around this city 7 times?
48:48
You know what I mean? Like, I'm sure I don't know, but
48:51
you'd think they've been some murmuring like what good's this
48:54
doing this guys? I mean, what, what what's the
48:56
point of this? But when it was obeyed by faith,
48:59
that is when they believed it was the right thing to do and
49:02
Moses or not Moses, but whoever said go do that, then when it
49:09
got done literally, faith broke the walls down.
49:13
You know what I mean? Like, would you say that by this
49:15
verse, faith is what tore the walls down?
49:18
You know, I mean, so that that's what kind of stands out to me in
49:21
this is by faith the walls of Jericho fell like it was the
49:25
faith that broke the walls down. Yeah, and, and, and particularly
49:30
Joshua's, you know, because if you this was a, this was a seven
49:33
day deal, right? You know, I mean, so a whole
49:37
week they were walking around, nothing was happening, nothing
49:40
changed until they walked around the 7th time on the 7th day.
49:45
That's. Right.
49:46
That that's, yeah. So there was plenty of room for
49:48
doubt there if you wanted to. Yeah, you, you pointed out good
49:54
there. One thing that I wanted to say
49:56
there, if you read that account, it says there that they were men
50:00
of war. So really in all reality, if you
50:04
think about it, the army was there, right?
50:07
And I think it was Joshua, I think his army was there.
50:12
And it says they were men of war.
50:14
So they came there to fight to overtake this city, but God
50:21
says, no, you're going to March around this city one time every
50:26
day for seven days. And it really makes no sense,
50:30
right? And and then at the 7th day,
50:32
you're going to blow the trumpet.
50:34
And then when you build the trumpet, the walls are going to
50:36
fall down. It's like, yeah, right, right.
50:39
But they were obedient again. They they believe God, right?
50:44
It, it all boils down. And I keep thinking as we read
50:47
through this book earlier and said that we need to believe God
50:51
that He is a rewarder to those that didn't seek Him.
50:55
Now, yeah. That's what all boils down to.
50:58
Yeah, they chose to believe the invisible.
51:02
Andrew, go ahead. Yeah, here again it shows
51:07
another aspect of faith where there was action.
51:10
They they did walk. The result I guess you could say
51:17
if their faith was is that they actually got a packed everything
51:20
they needed to pack to and make plans to walk around this
51:25
building 7 times or or however many times.
51:28
I think it's more than seven times a day for seven days.
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Once a day for six days and then seven times on the 7th day.
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Oh, is that how it was? Yeah, I think so.
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That took some planning. That took, you know, a lot of
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effort. It's not the type of faith that
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we think of sometimes when we just say, oh, I'm going to
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believe God for this and it's going to happen.
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Or I, I just like the fact that I don't know how to put in
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words. I like how that it's OK for me
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over a long period of time, just do the right thing without
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seeing any evidence that what I'm believing is correct other
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than what just God said. It's not.
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I don't need results now. Like I'm fine with a long
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process according to the faith that I understand from the Bible
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and reading through here is that the fruit and the result and the
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answer and of my faith is, is not the point here.
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The point is, is that whatever God said, you just go with it.
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And when you go with it and you believe it and you act like you
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believe it and you respond, you actually get up and put blood on
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the doors. You don't just say I believe,
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you know, I believe in the blood.
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You know, they actually got up and did everything God told them
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to do. And at the end of the day, God
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said their faith is what kept them from dying.
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And you know, those walls came down by faith and yet they did
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all the other things. So I think it's an aspect of
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faith that is very nice for us to know that I can stand on the
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blood of Jesus Christ and stay there regardless of what what my
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life for people around me think or say.
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Yeah, there's. And I see this now, and it
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reminds me of what I heard of an old preacher say one time about
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the principle of seed time and harvest.
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So you practice, there is time, there is time, there is time,
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there is time. And then you get the harvest,
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the results of that seed. And you see this in every single
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example here. There's that element of time
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that gives you the opportunity to choose whether you're going
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to believe the king or the invisible one.
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And. And you see this, this, this
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through the entire thing. That's the very real part of
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faith, is time. Time to be challenged, Time to
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be tried. Tried to grow, yeah.
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Yeah, yeah, because I guess you could say that that is the
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point. You know, he mentions the seven
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days there and it is it God was trying them.
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Will you keep doing this for the seven days without seeing any
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results? You know, it was a test, truly
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it was. And and I mean, I would say this
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too, and this would be, I guess you could apply this to a man of
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his house or whatever. But sometimes you as the leader,
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like Joshua in this case, as the leader he is to get is to keep
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everybody going the right direction.
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Was they murmur or not right? You know what I mean?
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Like they may not have all had the same amount of faith.
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I in fact, I'd almost feel assuredly that they didn't have
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the same amount of faith, right? But they were being led by at
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least one man of faith and said, this is what God said this we
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are going to do this. And he pressed them all.
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And then they all reap the benefits of seeing the fruit of
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that faith. In other words, they didn't all
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have faith, the same amount of faith in the process, but they
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all saw the result of that faith at the end of it.
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Yeah, yeah, that's good stuff. Hey, I do want to get this last
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verse. Let's get 31 of them.
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It kind of changes gears after that.
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So this this still goes with kind of the context here.
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You each get about a minute here by Faith the harlot Rahab
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perished not with them that believe not when she had
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received minds with peace. Another another beautiful
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example of somebody believing a word they heard that's.
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True. Even even just through a
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messenger and acting on that to the contrary of the government.
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Go ahead, Aaron. Yeah.
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Well, and you can see a compare and contrast here.
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She believed everybody else in that city did not, right.
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And in fact, I would almost go as far.
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I mean, it doesn't say this either way.
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She believed and maybe the family that got saved didn't,
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but her faith said you all gathered my house and by her
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faith, she saved the whole family, right.
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So you know she that is a comparing dress.
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That's the difference. In other words, they died.
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The rest of the city died because they didn't believe she
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was saved because she. Believed.
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She believed that. She believed the word that she
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heard. If you read the account, she
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believed the word that she heard kind of threw the Grapevine.
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Itself. Oh yeah.
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Oh, that's awesome. That would go ahead.
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Yeah. And I also just wanted to point
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out that she was a Gentile. She was not, you know, a Jew.
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And so she was a vow person. It actually says that she
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worshipped Pagan gods up to this point.
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But yeah, I think so. To me, when I read that, it just
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is a Old Testament figure that Christ is available to anyone
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and everyone, no matter who you are, how bad you've been or, or
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what you have done in the past. And so that's what I see here,
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yeah. I think it's awesome that a
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harlot made the faith chapter. Yeah.
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Go ahead, Amber. Yeah, that was that was what I
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was going to focus on that that I'm intrigued and I love God for
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that. That there was no respective
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person at that point. It it didn't matter.
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Her background didn't matter. And whoever would believe, even
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the people that didn't believe or whether it did or not, the
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ones that came over and stayed at her house.
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I thought of the verse where it says if if the unbelieving is
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willing to live with you, don't depart or don't put them away
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because they're sanctified by your faith.
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I'm always struggling with that verse.
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Does that actually mean if I'm an unbeliever and my wife is
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safe, my kids are clean, my kids are whole, I am I am sanctified
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because of her the faith. I mean, I hope so not that I
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need it. Maybe I need no, I'm just and
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like sometimes I wish that was true because or hope it is
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because I know of a lot of believing wives or believing
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husbands that the other side doesn't believe.
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You know any projects out of that?
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Well, you, no, you, you actually pointed at something that I've
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never even thought about. It's true.
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Her whole family was sanctified by her faith.
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Yeah. I mean, that is a literal
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example that they were. Their lives were spared.
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I'm not saying went to heaven like God eternal.
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Life their. Lives were spared because of her
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faith, regardless of theirs. Yeah, Yeah.
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I would actually like to dig into that concept a little bit
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sometime where we're out of time for today, but maybe we could
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hit that again a little bit at the beginning of the next.
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Because I've talked with people that believe that one person's
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faith can save another like as an eternity.
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And I am not in that camp, but I would like to express that.
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I'm not either and I wouldn't preach it.
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I just, yeah, I struggling with that, yeah.
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I think it I think it has to do with the concept that faith
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cometh by hearing and hearing by the word.
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If you and faith go ahead and and you can proclaim that and
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another word, save others. And I now I would go this far.
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I would go as far as to say that God, you might draw more of
1:00:00
God's work into a household when one person has faith so that
1:00:05
they may see greater words had they not been married to that
1:00:08
person. Yeah, You know what I mean?
1:00:10
Does that make sense? Like they might be sanctified in
1:00:13
the sense that they would get to see something or God would work
1:00:16
with them or bring something to them that they had not otherwise
1:00:20
received had there not been a believer in the house?
1:00:23
Does that make sense? I mean, I think that's
1:00:25
legitimate to say. Yeah.
1:00:28
I would agree with that. Let let's visit about this a
1:00:30
little bit. If if I forget, remind me, but
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let's touch on this subject and maybe just clarify that a little
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bit with some scripture too, as we go for next week.
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Anyway, that is it for today. Thank you very much folks.
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I, I appreciate that as we conclude today's study, remember
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Hebrews 11. Faith is a substance of evidence
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of things not seen. And I pray that your faith would
1:00:52
reveal biblical truths more clearly than your physical eyes
1:00:55
can perceive the things before you.
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Join us next Monday as we continue to look through the
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glory of God, through the substance of faith.
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God bless you guys. Thanks for your time.
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Appreciate you.