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Hour Two | Saints Rookie Camp, LSU Award Candidates & Bobby Cox Talk · Off The Bench

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  Speaker 1: Off the bench.
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  Speaker 1: All right, welcome back in our number two of O
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  Speaker 1: t B here live from the Raising Kines Studio. Of course,
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  Speaker 1: The New Orleans Saints got a chance to see their
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  Speaker 1: rookies at Rookie Minnie Camp over the weekend. Certainly a
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  Speaker 1: lot of eyeball is going to be on Jordan Tyson,
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  Speaker 1: Oscar Delp, some of those early picks, Christian Miller, who
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  Speaker 1: you know you take there in the second round out
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  Speaker 1: of UGA. I would say barry On Brown because of
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  Speaker 1: his LSU ties and Ward was that he had a
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  Speaker 1: really good rookie Mini camp as well. But we'll start
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  Speaker 1: with Jordan Tyson, who you took number eight. Overall, Saints
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  Speaker 1: desperately desperately needed some juice at the receiver position.
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  Speaker 3: They needed somebody who was a difference maker.
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  Speaker 1: They needed somebody with his skill set and his size
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  Speaker 1: and certainly.
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  Speaker 3: You know, look, it's it's not pads.
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  Speaker 1: Sometimes you don't really need pads to be able to
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  Speaker 1: tell who's the Jimmies and who's the Joe and things
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  Speaker 1: like that. And it certainly felt like Jordan Tyson was
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  Speaker 1: that guy at rookie minni camp and so if he
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  Speaker 1: can stay healthy, which is going to be the question, right,
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  Speaker 1: It wasn't a skill, it wasn't a production. It was
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  Speaker 1: a health question that was asked about Jordan Tyson.
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  Speaker 3: When the draft was a couple of weeks ago.
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  Speaker 1: And so you clear him there and he's had an
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  Speaker 1: ACL he's had hamstring, he's had.
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  Speaker 3: A collar bone, so he's had a little bit of everything.
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  Speaker 1: But you felt good enough to draft him eight overall,
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  Speaker 1: and just by one rookie minicamp. You can certainly see
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  Speaker 1: why you would want to do that. A difference maker,
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  Speaker 1: to say the least. But also when you're watching the
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  Speaker 1: one on ones, Jordan Tyson looks a little different than
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  Speaker 1: everybody else out there.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, and you know, the concerns going into the draft
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  Speaker 4: for all of us that were, you know, making billions
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  Speaker 4: of mock drafts and talking about all the potential people
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  Speaker 4: that would be available at the number eight overall pig.
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  Speaker 4: Jordan Tyson was one of those guys that said, man,
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  Speaker 4: if only he didn't have all those injuries, there wasn't
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  Speaker 4: that concern. He would be the unquestioned guy, probably go
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  Speaker 4: higher than eight. Like he was the probably the only
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  Speaker 4: receiver that we thought, at least on the show that
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  Speaker 4: had that talent to have a single digit draft number
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  Speaker 4: by his name at the end of the day.
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  Speaker 3: And that shows, and it shows early on.
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  Speaker 4: Now both of the things showed the talent and the
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  Speaker 4: health concerns because he did miss part of the rookie
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  Speaker 4: mini camp, and but that was not due to injury.
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  Speaker 4: It was just part of the Saints you know. They
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  Speaker 4: addressed it and they're like, look, we get it. This
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  Speaker 4: is all part of the maintenance plan. Like we we
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  Speaker 4: finally got our myths around these guys, Like the draft
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  Speaker 4: picks are here.
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  Speaker 3: We've been thinking about this as studying this a long time.
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  Speaker 4: We're not just gonna, you know, take this guy that
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  Speaker 4: has had some some injuries in the past.
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  Speaker 3: We're not. We're gonna let's seiz him in a little
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  Speaker 3: bit slowly.
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  Speaker 4: It was all part of their plan, so of course,
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  Speaker 4: probably made Saints fans a little bit nervous to see
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  Speaker 4: that he wasn't at one of the practices, but you know,
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  Speaker 4: all part of the plants a long time before training
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  Speaker 4: camp starts, a long time before the Saints really needed
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  Speaker 4: to go. But like Jake said, good to see them
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  Speaker 4: out there and look, I think, honestly, I think the guy,
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  Speaker 4: one of the guys that can make the biggest impact
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  Speaker 4: next year is gonna be Berry on Brown. I think
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  Speaker 4: that from a return game standpoint and just the way
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  Speaker 4: that they can use him. They're gonna be all eyes
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  Speaker 4: on cris A Lave and George like all eyes on them.
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  Speaker 4: They're going to Defenses are going to try to stop
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  Speaker 4: those guys, and it's going to make opportunities, especially a speedster,
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  Speaker 4: give him a lot of opportunities down the field, So
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  Speaker 4: get a lot of one on one matchups, get some
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  Speaker 4: coverage rolled the opposite direction from them.
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  Speaker 3: I think that he.
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  Speaker 4: Has he has a chance, and boy would we love
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  Speaker 4: to see an LSU guy make an impact for the Saints.
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  Speaker 4: I think that's always fun for the hadn't happened a lot,
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  Speaker 4: it's always fun when that happens for fans to see
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  Speaker 4: the LSU guys go there and make a big impact.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, like Mickey told you, I didn't trade up and
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  Speaker 1: after the elisuga.
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  Speaker 4: Right, So y'all shouldn't be talking any of that ish
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  Speaker 4: towards me.
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  Speaker 1: Barryon Brown might have a role in offense, and like
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  Speaker 1: it might not be a incredibly impactful role, but it
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  Speaker 1: might be a small role, like Matt said, to be
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  Speaker 1: able to help you do some different things. The Saints
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  Speaker 1: have a lack like, you know, true explosive speed, like
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  Speaker 1: game changing speed. They've liked that a little bit, and
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  Speaker 1: so Brown certainly gives you that, and he can stress
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  Speaker 1: the defense vertically from the very get go. But also
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  Speaker 1: Nick Underhill, who joined us every Tuesday, talked about what
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  Speaker 1: he's going to be in the return game as well,
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  Speaker 1: mention they need a dynamic return or remember Barryon Brown
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  Speaker 1: has the record, the SEC record for return touchdowns kickoff
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  Speaker 1: return touchdowns, so he helps you there from day one.
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  Speaker 3: We'll see what happens on punt return.
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  Speaker 1: Didn't really do a whole lot of that in college
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  Speaker 1: compared to kick returns, but he certainly gives you that
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  Speaker 1: from the very get go, and then whatever you get
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  Speaker 1: from him offensively feels like a little lean yea.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's he's got an opportunity to kind
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  Speaker 4: of be like, was is it Tess Johnson for the
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  Speaker 4: Bucks last year who young guy speedy gout and had
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  Speaker 4: a couple of games early where it's just like, oh whoa, Like, Okay,
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  Speaker 4: this guy's got it. He can beat you down the field.
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  Speaker 4: I think Tess early on had some like big two
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  Speaker 4: touchdown games. I think Baryon, like coming in, has that
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  Speaker 4: opportunity to put defenses or at least coordinators on the
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  Speaker 4: heels a little bit when they have to game plan
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  Speaker 4: against the Saints. And I think he's got that type
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  Speaker 4: of big play potential and you just don't know, like
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  Speaker 4: a six round pick coming in, like you don't know
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  Speaker 4: you know what he can do in the return game.
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  Speaker 3: That's probably why they drafted him.
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  Speaker 4: But he could be one of these guys that really
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  Speaker 4: flashes and surprises people at what he can do at
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  Speaker 4: the wide receiver room. Just because of offensive, offensive minded
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  Speaker 4: head coach, you got a lot of young talent, there's
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  Speaker 4: going to be a lot of the defense they're not
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  Speaker 4: going to be expecting him to be able to be impactful.
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  Speaker 4: So that's kind of my player to watch right now.
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  Speaker 4: From this past draft.
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  Speaker 1: One more to talk about offensively is Oscar dew Well,
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  Speaker 1: the tight end out of Georgia. Now, this is somebody
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  Speaker 1: that we know, he's tough. I had a broken foot,
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  Speaker 1: didn't even know it. He didn't know it until they
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  Speaker 1: went to the combine and he did the physical there
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  Speaker 1: that we always talk about and how strenuous and how
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  Speaker 1: long of a process that is to get a physical
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  Speaker 1: in Indie. But this is somebody that a lot of
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  Speaker 1: people feel like is underused. When he was at Uga,
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  Speaker 1: like you could have used him in the way some
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  Speaker 1: of the ways he used brock Bowers.
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  Speaker 3: Is he brock Bowers. No, but a lot of people
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  Speaker 3: thought he would be the guy that you would use
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  Speaker 3: in that role.
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  Speaker 1: You never really used him to the same effect because
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  Speaker 1: well you had a different offics coordinator and it just
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  Speaker 1: never looked the same.
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  Speaker 3: But he was certainly someone that turned.
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  Speaker 1: Heads at rookie Mini Camp and Matthew you'd be able
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  Speaker 1: to tell us way better than anybody what it means
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  Speaker 1: to have a tight end that you can trust in value.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, it's especially in the evolution of football right now.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a different Like was it twenty three tight
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  Speaker 3: ends drafted this year?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, something like that in the top one of the top,
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  Speaker 4: if not the most explosive and best and most consistent
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  Speaker 4: offenses in the in the entire NFL last year utilized
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  Speaker 4: thirteen personnel. And what that is, launder, what's thirteen personnel?
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  Speaker 5: One running back?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, three tight Yeah, there we go. What else?
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  Speaker 5: Two wide receivers?
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  Speaker 1: No?
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  Speaker 5: Wait, I'm sorry, y'all know about it?
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  Speaker 3: A mathive mathing.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, So, like you think about that, and in a
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  Speaker 4: day and age where passing yards and quarterbacks are king,
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  Speaker 4: the most explosive passing offense or one of the most
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  Speaker 4: explosive pass had three tight ends on the fields. That's
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  Speaker 4: a position that keeps evolving as players get bigger, stronger, faster.
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  Speaker 4: We see it on defense all the time. It's like,
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  Speaker 4: my god, where are these people made. They're made in
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  Speaker 4: a lab. Like there's you don't have the big fat
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  Speaker 4: guys anymore. You don't have a lot of them, like
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  Speaker 4: defensive line, offensive line. You're looking at guys with you know,
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  Speaker 4: under fifteen twenty fifteen percent body fat like going out
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  Speaker 4: there and playing.
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  Speaker 3: They still weigh the same. They're just bigger, strong and fast.
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  Speaker 4: And now you're seeing that evolution in with humans at
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  Speaker 4: the tight end position, a lot more athleticism that people
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  Speaker 4: can both block, and it's just and we've always had
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  Speaker 4: the tight end position and guys excel at it.
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  Speaker 3: You're just seeing more and more of it. And of
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  Speaker 3: course you're.
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  Speaker 4: Seeing offensive minded offensive coordinators, offensive head coaches, you're seeing
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  Speaker 4: them being able to utilize it. And it's a copycat league,
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  Speaker 4: so if one person's having success with it, the rest
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  Speaker 4: of the league is going to follow until somebody on
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  Speaker 4: defense figures out a way to stop it, and then
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  Speaker 4: it just it's an evolution. It's constantly rotating on what
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  Speaker 4: personnels work, what type of offenses are going to work
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  Speaker 4: in the NFL, And right now, tight ends are a huge,
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  Speaker 4: huge part of what NFL teams want to do.
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  Speaker 3: And we saw it with what the Saints have done.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and the Saints last year just did not use
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  Speaker 1: multiple tight ends. They only us thirteen personnel eight percent
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  Speaker 1: of the time. They only use twelve personnel sixteen point
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  Speaker 1: eight percent of the.
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  Speaker 3: Time, So way, way, way way down the.
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  Speaker 1: List of twelve personnel teams in fact, and that was
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  Speaker 1: I think we're talking about twenty seventh in the NFL
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  Speaker 1: ye in twelve personnel usage. And for eleven personnel. They
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  Speaker 1: used that sixty seven percent of the time. That was
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  Speaker 1: fourth most in the National Football League behind Tennessee, Tampa
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  Speaker 1: Bay and the Jets.
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  Speaker 3: So it wasn't something they used a lot last year.
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  Speaker 1: In fact, it's something that when they did use it,
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  Speaker 1: you fell into really bad tendencies.
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  Speaker 3: Of what you were going to do.
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  Speaker 1: So certainly a point of emphasis to be able to
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  Speaker 1: get out there and get Juwan Johnson and Oscar Delp
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  Speaker 1: on the field at the same time.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, and if you I mean, you have to obviously
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  Speaker 4: have the dudes to be able to use a lot
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  Speaker 4: of that successfully, use a lot of tight ends and
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  Speaker 4: inside receivers, like the most successful passing games at the
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  Speaker 4: NFL level. Now in college it's a little bit different.
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  Speaker 4: We looked at like Elaane Kiffen offense. This is a
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  Speaker 4: little bit more outside ind but most successful offenses that
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  Speaker 4: at the higher levels of football are inside out passing concepts,
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  Speaker 4: inside out passing mentality. The fastest way to the end
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  Speaker 4: zone is over the middle. That's how the most successful
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  Speaker 4: like it. You're just not going to make a lot
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  Speaker 4: of hay consistently working outside the numbers, So in between
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  Speaker 4: the hashes right around the hashes, and that's where the
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  Speaker 4: tight ends have their success. If you can line a
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  Speaker 4: bunch of them up and you saw all the sudden
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  Speaker 4: like that's why the evolution of the slot receiver, your
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  Speaker 4: traditional zs and x's the new age. Offensive coordinators ten
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  Speaker 4: fifteen years ago started moving those guys into the slot
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  Speaker 4: because it created matchup issues because you have to sort
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  Speaker 4: things out as a defense and you've got two or
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  Speaker 4: three guys running vertically over the middle of the field,
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  Speaker 4: it's a lot harder to figure out or they going left,
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  Speaker 4: they're going right. Now if you're on the outside in
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  Speaker 4: your corner, like, there's only one direction he can go.
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  Speaker 4: He can't go towards the sideline really, unless it's like
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  Speaker 4: a timing out route, and sometimes you just gave those up,
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  Speaker 4: but like you were able to play a little bit
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  Speaker 4: more inside out leverage. But when it's in the middle
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  Speaker 4: of the field, that's why the most successful passing routes
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  Speaker 4: and passing teams are more of an inside out approach.
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  Speaker 4: It just creates a lot more confusion. Let you let
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  Speaker 4: you take advantage of the zones a lot better. And
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  Speaker 4: it's just that's the flaw all the successful teams that
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  Speaker 4: I was on offensively, that was the approach, fastest way
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  Speaker 4: to the end zone over the middle.
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  Speaker 1: And you can't be afraid to use the middle of
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  Speaker 1: the football field like a team we cover every single
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  Speaker 1: day was afraid to use the middle of the football field.
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  Speaker 1: There's not caution tape, there's not police tape saying you
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  Speaker 1: can't go here. Yep, you actually can use that portion
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  Speaker 1: of the field. And so it is the quickest way
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  Speaker 1: to the end zone. And if you can get that done,
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  Speaker 1: you make everybody cover every blade out there and not
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  Speaker 1: just some of the blades of crass out there as
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  Speaker 1: we saw a year ago. And remember these Saints also
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  Speaker 1: did sign Noah Fan in free agency, so they'll have
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  Speaker 1: Jawan Johnson and Oscar Dell available, so we could see
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  Speaker 1: that thirteen personnel go up as well. All Right, we
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  Speaker 1: will step away a little LSU football talk when we
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  Speaker 1: All right, welcome back in OTB confirmed deritor. Dragons love
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  Speaker 1: twenty five. I have award candidates for every team Elsho's
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  Speaker 1: preseason top twenty five and for them coming at number eleven.
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  Speaker 1: By the way, it predicts that their award winner would
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  Speaker 1: be any any guests, no guess, any position, any player,
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  Speaker 1: any award, any.
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  Speaker 3: Award, any any college football award. Best ton of that
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  Speaker 3: would be the Makie Maki. Did you know that? Nope? Nope?
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  Speaker 3: Who would they go to?
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  Speaker 1: Sure? It is okay, a Landra any guests award for
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  Speaker 1: the no any player, no, any player on LSU.
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  Speaker 3: If they were to win an award, who would it
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  Speaker 3: be this season? Yeah, in this upcoming season? Who would
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  Speaker 3: be your guests?
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  Speaker 5: Somebody on the defense.
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  Speaker 3: What's wrong with the offense? I just don't know. We
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  Speaker 3: don't know what. We don't know what it looks like.
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  Speaker 5: I don't know. But somebody on.
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  Speaker 3: The defense leadership award? Uh?
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  Speaker 5: Do I have to give like a.
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  Speaker 3: No, you're good defense? It is and you got there eventually.
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  Speaker 1: It says if LSU was to win an award, it
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  Speaker 1: would be linebacker wit Weeks, and that would be the
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  Speaker 1: Buckets Award for the nation's best linebacker.
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  Speaker 5: We got there together.
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  Speaker 3: There you go our one brain.
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  Speaker 1: Cell, like the right up from Andrea Adelson said, there
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  Speaker 1: is a little doubt that Week's decision to return was
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  Speaker 1: a huge win for new Tigers coach Lane Kiffen and
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  Speaker 1: the defensive coordinator Blake Baker, who has his lynchpin back,
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  Speaker 1: and he is sure to be a preseason All American.
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  Speaker 1: Weeks missed the bulk of last season with a broken ankle.
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  Speaker 1: In twenty twenty four Star eleven games and had one
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  Speaker 1: hundred and twenty five tackles, including ten for lost, three
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  Speaker 1: and a half sacks, two forced from moles, six quarterback hurries,
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  Speaker 1: and an interception. So it says if Week stays healthy
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  Speaker 1: and puts up that type of production again, he will
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  Speaker 1: be up for every major defensive player of the Year
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  Speaker 1: award in the country, and Wits health is certainly going
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  Speaker 1: to be I would say the most important outside of
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  Speaker 1: maybe trade as Green because like you said, like there's
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  Speaker 1: just not a lot of trade as greens walking the earth,
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  Speaker 1: just not that have his size and his athletic ability.
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: There's also not a lot of whit Weeks that you
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: can put in the middle of your defense. We saw
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: that last year, how that drastically changed. And look, Wes
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: Weeks played much better I think than anybody anticipated. And
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: Wes found himself now he's on an NFL roster with
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: the Colts, right, and we saw what he did at
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: Pro Day, Like Wes got better, but what Weeks was
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: preseason All American yep, And so you know, no disrespect
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: to Keys when he came in.
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: It's just not the same though.
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: So you've added other players too, because it can't just
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: be a one trick pony in the middle of your defense.
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: Like you added a guy in Dottery that started at
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: linebacker role miss last year too, so and you've got
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: another Week's brother as well. So it's the group as
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: a whole that's going to make with Weeks I think,
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: an even better player. It's just you know, staying healthy,
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: staying on the field, because he got hurt against Baylor
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: in that Texas Bowl, right, and then like you try
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: to get him back, you get him back, and then
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: he gets another injury there and man, he tried. I
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: still don't know how he went out there against South
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: Carolina and played that game like with a broken ankle yep,
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: And he was going off vibes and probably toward all
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: but he did it, and he tried to play a
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: couple of different times. He played a little bit in
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: the Oklahoma game. He tried to give you everything he had.
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: He just had a broken ankle.
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: Yep.
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: So now that you know, they've been smart with him.
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: During spring practice, he didn't do a whole lot. He
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: went out there a couple of times, talked to it
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: the other day. He feels ready to go, feels good
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: to go, and he like trade As on offense, wood
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: Weeks on defense are going to be your most important players.
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: And I know you're probably listening saying, what about the quarterback, Well,
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: you went out and did a really nice job of
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: drastically improving your quarterback depth. You don't have another trade
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: As and that's no disrespect to any other tied end
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: on this roster, but again, trade As and what he
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: can do is truly one of one. You don't have
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: another wit Weeks in this roster either. Not a lot
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: of teams in the country do.
• 19:06
  Speaker 4: They talked about wit Weeks and talking about him playing
• 19:09
  Speaker 4: through his injury, he said he was kind of going
• 19:12
  Speaker 4: on vibes and tore it all. You know, I would
• 19:14
  Speaker 4: put a little bit of meathead mentality and a lot
• 19:17
  Speaker 4: of heart into that as well. Into that equation and
• 19:20
  Speaker 4: a lot of heart is what you don't always see
• 19:22
  Speaker 4: in college football anymore, is what I think the biggest
• 19:25
  Speaker 4: you know, the only downside I guess to the state
• 19:29
  Speaker 4: of college football right now is sometimes you don't get
• 19:32
  Speaker 4: that well in that aspect. What Weeks is a unicorn,
• 19:35
  Speaker 4: got this stuck around. He has done the right thing.
• 19:38
  Speaker 4: A guy that you know, you cut him open. He
• 19:41
  Speaker 4: bleeds purple and gold right, and you don't always see
• 19:43
  Speaker 4: that with college athletes anymore because it is I mean,
• 19:46
  Speaker 4: it is what it is. It's a pay for play
• 19:48
  Speaker 4: type situation, and that is okay. But he is a unicorn,
• 19:53
  Speaker 4: and not only from his like physical play, because obviously
• 19:56
  Speaker 4: he's very talented and the way he plays, you know,
• 19:59
  Speaker 4: he's accept the bullet at that position that he plays
• 20:02
  Speaker 4: in the sport that he plays to be injured. Unfortunately
• 20:04
  Speaker 4: he has had some that has put him out, but
• 20:08
  Speaker 4: the way he plays the game obviously going to make
• 20:10
  Speaker 4: a huge impact for the Tiger defense, but more importantly
• 20:14
  Speaker 4: him his presence on the field. I think this article
• 20:18
  Speaker 4: referred to him as the lynchpin, you got, keystone, whatever
• 20:20
  Speaker 4: it is, he is what holds holds it all together
• 20:24
  Speaker 4: from a leadership standpoint, and with him on the field,
• 20:26
  Speaker 4: everybody's better. Of course, as a whole, it's going to
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: make him better because he's got good parts around him.
• 20:32
  Speaker 4: But if he is on the field, everything is going
• 20:35
  Speaker 4: to operate more efficiently. Everybody's going to play a little
• 20:38
  Speaker 4: bit better just because having him on the field. Having
• 20:40
  Speaker 4: that presence in a world where everybody is a pay
• 20:44
  Speaker 4: for play type person, having that one person that is
• 20:47
  Speaker 4: that LSU guy and can show them the way for
• 20:50
  Speaker 4: that and tell them what it means to play here
• 20:53
  Speaker 4: and be here, that makes a huge difference. Now, whether
• 20:55
  Speaker 4: it might be a small difference, might be a tiny difference.
• 20:58
  Speaker 4: It might be a little extra effort on the first
• 21:00
  Speaker 4: step or the fifth step. Yeah, but you're not going
• 21:03
  Speaker 4: to get a loaf that you got last year with
• 21:06
  Speaker 4: him on the field. If you do, it'll be a
• 21:09
  Speaker 4: lot fewer. And that that happened last year.
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: My man was puke and rally a couple of times
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: last year. Absolutely he was.
• 21:17
  Speaker 4: So it's you know, it's one of those things that
• 21:19
  Speaker 4: he is going to be a huge part of it.
• 21:22
  Speaker 4: Keeping him healthy is And of course you talked about
• 21:24
  Speaker 4: trade as we've I've said it multiple multiple times. Trade
• 21:28
  Speaker 4: has has the opportunity and the ability if the offense
• 21:31
  Speaker 4: it you know, barring good luck with injuries and and
• 21:35
  Speaker 4: having you know, is your best ability is availability if
• 21:39
  Speaker 4: he is available all season, and the coaching staff has
• 21:41
  Speaker 4: a big responsibility, a big challenge on trying to scheme
• 21:45
  Speaker 4: it up to where he can showcase his skill set.
• 21:48
  Speaker 4: He has the opportunity to be the most dangerous offensive
• 21:51
  Speaker 4: weapon in the entire country in college football. So a
• 21:55
  Speaker 4: lot of things to look forward to as LSU fans.
• 21:58
  Speaker 4: You know, we're it's I mean, we're pretty close. I
• 22:01
  Speaker 4: know softball is going to make a run of this thing,
• 22:03
  Speaker 4: but we're pretty close football season. Yeah, with baseball being
• 22:07
  Speaker 4: what it is, like I have all attention, all eyes,
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: all the focus is going to start shifting that direction
• 22:13
  Speaker 4: here pretty shortly. Yeah, So it's it's gonna be a
• 22:17
  Speaker 4: lot of talk going forward on LSU football and a
• 22:20
  Speaker 4: lot of speculation. That's gonna be a lot of that.
• 22:22
  Speaker 4: It's kind of like leading up to the draft. We're
• 22:24
  Speaker 4: gonna talk a lot, a lot about different things in
• 22:26
  Speaker 4: the way things could shake out or play out. The
• 22:28
  Speaker 4: trade as I think, is going to be that guy
• 22:31
  Speaker 4: that at the end of the year, everybody's gonna be
• 22:34
  Speaker 4: talking about that dude, and probably with a single digit
• 22:38
  Speaker 4: by his name in the twenty twenty seven draft.
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: So with this staff, with his ability and the mismatches
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: that they can create, because there's actual ballplays that attack
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: the middle of.
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: The football field, not as much as I want. There's
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: not as much.
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: Buddy, if you threw three over the middle of the field,
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: I know that would be an improvement, not even like
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: trying to be funny.
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: With me, further than five yards on the field. Do
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: you remember they threw one.
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: It was late in the season, you were willing to
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: sec play, you were already getting your butt kicked, and
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: they threw like just like a bang eight over the middle.
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: I forget which receiver it was, but they hit him.
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: He was like a step inside the hash And I'm
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: calling the game and I'm like, oh my god, what
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: was like, Chris. They threw it in the middle of
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: the field to a receiver down the field like that
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: shouldn't stand out.
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: To you, but it did. You I don't even want
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: to start this. You don't have to start it here.
• 23:39
  Speaker 4: And it came off of a year where they were
• 23:41
  Speaker 4: doing an incredible job. That's why Anderson coming into the
• 23:44
  Speaker 4: year because I'm like, this guy's got a great football,
• 23:47
  Speaker 4: like you attacks me of a field like we just
• 23:49
  Speaker 4: talked about with the Saints, and like the the addition
• 23:53
  Speaker 4: of all the tight ends and how multiple tight ends
• 23:55
  Speaker 4: the Rams have started exploiting it. Seahawks are exploiting it
• 23:59
  Speaker 4: like attacking the middle. The field is inside out passing mentality.
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: Now.
• 24:03
  Speaker 4: I tried to like make that point a couple of
• 24:05
  Speaker 4: months ago when Lane came. I was like, man, this
• 24:07
  Speaker 4: is why they're successful and we try to count it,
• 24:09
  Speaker 4: but they actually don't it Like lanes offense doesn't necessarily attack.
• 24:14
  Speaker 4: That's why I say college football can be a little
• 24:16
  Speaker 4: bit can be a little bit different. They did throw
• 24:18
  Speaker 4: it outside the hash, but they create their mismatches in
• 24:21
  Speaker 4: different ways, getting the uh, moving the pocket for quarterbacks,
• 24:25
  Speaker 4: making people make decision on the quarterback as well. So
• 24:29
  Speaker 4: what necessarily as much as I want or I expected
• 24:32
  Speaker 4: to see how successful lanes offenses are, that's kind of like,
• 24:35
  Speaker 4: you know, my philosophy and a lot of people's philosophy
• 24:38
  Speaker 4: of inside out passing mentality. It's kind of an anomaly.
• 24:43
  Speaker 4: I guess it's very highly consistently successful offense that does
• 24:48
  Speaker 4: and maybe the philosophy still is inside out, but a
• 24:52
  Speaker 4: lot of their passes do end up going outside the hash.
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: So but we'll see. It's a challenge.
• 24:58
  Speaker 4: Like when you have somebody's talented as true he does,
• 25:00
  Speaker 4: it's a lot of pressure on the coaching staff. Like
• 25:04
  Speaker 4: I mean, you can you can look at it two
• 25:05
  Speaker 4: different ways, all right, we have to scheme up how
• 25:07
  Speaker 4: to get him the ball, or just put him in
• 25:09
  Speaker 4: a position and let the offense offensive scheme and his
• 25:13
  Speaker 4: skill set dictate where the ball goes, and he'll probably
• 25:17
  Speaker 4: end up having a lot of good games. Like there's
• 25:19
  Speaker 4: there's two ways ago just let him play in the
• 25:20
  Speaker 4: offense and see how it goes, or we try to
• 25:22
  Speaker 4: maneuver the offense around and I'll be interested to see
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: how this staff decides to handle it.
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: Let's take a break. I want to because I want
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: to do I want to.
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: I want to show what the offense is gonna look
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: like as far as new bodies, And we could sit
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: here and we can tell you how many, but I
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: think a visual of how many, and so I'm gonna
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna do that. I'm gonna pull up something to
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: show you exactly how new this offense truly is going
• 25:53
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  Speaker 1: All right, welcome back in OTV here live from the
• 28:08
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• 28:10
  Speaker 3: Tata.
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: Can you pull up LSU's offensive depth chart scroll scroll
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: this away, Thanks sir, Keep going, keep going, keep going
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: right there? All right, So I know if you're listening
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: to us on radio, you can't see this, So I'll
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: explain what we're looking at here, all right, So, our lads,
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: is a great tool. Great if you're looking for depth
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: charts in the NFL in college football as well.
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: Like, it's a really good tool. It's got typically it's
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: pretty spot on as well.
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: So I'll use this a lot when I'm doing games
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: to kind of see exactly like because we'll move it
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: if a guy's got more playing time whatever. So if
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: a call game to see kind of what the depth
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: chart is at the time, because the SID.
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: Typically gives you the.
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: Depth chart from game one, it's not the same, but
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: it also does this, And so if a.
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: Player is returning, it's in blue.
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: You can just go to that screen tatay, so they
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: can kind of see a little bit better on YouTube.
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: If a player is in blue, that means that he
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: is returning, means he was on your team a year ago,
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: all right. So for LSU offensively, it's got five guys,
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: well six if we count Kayden Durham that are returning
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: in the two deep. Six players total offensively in the
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: too deep, all right, if you're in like a pinkish red,
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: that means you're a true freshman. That means you're coming
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: in and you haven't been here before obviously, and you're
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: new to the program. LSU has two of those guys
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: right now in the pinkish reddish color. Okay, Now the
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: gold that means you played somewhere else a year ago.
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: That means you're new to the program.
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: Here we go one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven, twelve, thirteen, fourteen, fifteen,
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: sixteen players in the two deep seventeen, nineteen, twenty twenty
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: one in the.
• 30:02
  Speaker 4: Three deep sixteen to twenty two and your you know,
• 30:06
  Speaker 4: your first string, second string as of right now, brand
• 30:10
  Speaker 4: new players on offense.
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: This offense, y'all, is a blank canvas. We have no
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: idea what it's going to be.
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: Now.
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: He saw some spring practice, you know, Lane Kiffen and
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: his staff and what they like to do. So you're
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: taking that into account. You're trying to make an assessment.
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: But I bring it up so there's a visual so
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: you can see just how much new there is going
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: to be for LSU offensively and even the guys that
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: it has in blue. Like I don't think Weston Davis
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: is guaranteed anything. He's not promised anything, but Bordeline's not
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: promised anything. Brayler Moore's probably gonna be your center, Trade
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: is gonna be your tight end down here at running back,
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: Like Harlan Berry's gonna play a ton Kate and Durham's
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: gonna play a ton, but Dylan Jon's gonna play a ton.
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: So like, even in that line of it where there's
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: two guys returning, it's not anything guaranteed. So like the
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: whole point is outside of Trade as Green returning guys.
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: A lot of that's still up in the air.
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: There's gonna be a lot of new There's going to
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: be faces that we don't know. There's gonna be faces
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: that during training camp. The coaches haven't put them in
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: a pecking order yet. Like it is true competition every
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: single day in the summertime, just like it was in
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: the spring when they're out there working out. It is
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: going to be every single day. What are you going
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: to do to go earn your position today? We don't, like,
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: I just don't think we know anything about what it's
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: going to look like. Now Clemson doesn't know either, Like
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: Clemson's gonna have to try to figure out what it
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: looks like and who the personnel is outside of Trade
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: as Green as well. But that just kind of gives
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: you an idea of the complete reset that you had
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: to hit offensively, Tayte, pull that up real quick again
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: and go down to the defense, because the defense is
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: gonna have some for sure, but look at that.
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: A lot of blue, a lot of blue.
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: As far as returning players compare to the offense, sure
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: you've got some gold mixed in there. You've got five, six, seven,
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: You got eight in the twenty two, so double the
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: new players coming in on offense.
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: This is this is big time college football, right. Yeah.
• 32:21
  Speaker 4: If you're not good at your job with so much
• 32:24
  Speaker 4: money on the line, you don't stay there for very long.
• 32:29
  Speaker 4: So defense was good, So we maintained most of our
• 32:33
  Speaker 4: coaches and most of the players return It didn't have
• 32:36
  Speaker 4: to replace a whole heck of a lot. I mean,
• 32:37
  Speaker 4: you see five, you got eight of the first and
• 32:40
  Speaker 4: second string defense are new people.
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: The rest are returners. You go up to offense.
• 32:48
  Speaker 4: Offense was historically bad, It was atrocious, it was embarrassing.
• 32:53
  Speaker 3: All those things are true. Zero coaches retained.
• 32:56
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and an entirely new person and l So that
• 33:02
  Speaker 4: tells you where we're at with college football. If you're
• 33:05
  Speaker 4: not if you're not good, you get fired. We're gonna
• 33:07
  Speaker 4: bring new people in. We're gonna pay a lot of money.
• 33:10
  Speaker 4: That's okay, We're gonna pay a lot of money. Because
• 33:13
  Speaker 4: this is the tell the tape of what happened last year, right,
• 33:17
  Speaker 4: complete reset on offense, and it needed it, My god
• 33:20
  Speaker 4: didn't need it. But the biggest thing it needed was
• 33:23
  Speaker 4: a reset at the coaching Yeah. From a from a
• 33:26
  Speaker 4: scheme standpoint, what LSU fans are going to see against
• 33:28
  Speaker 4: Clemson You've never seen in an l s U offense
• 33:32
  Speaker 4: because Wayne has built his offense over years and years
• 33:35
  Speaker 4: of trials and tribulations and and figuring out what works
• 33:38
  Speaker 4: and what doesn't work within his scheme. Nobody else runs
• 33:41
  Speaker 4: a lane kivin offense except for lane Kivin. So it's
• 33:44
  Speaker 4: gonna be We know it's gonna be fast. LSU's never
• 33:48
  Speaker 4: seen a fast No, we've seen a hurry up situations.
• 33:52
  Speaker 4: We've seen a high tempo, fast paced situations. But from
• 33:57
  Speaker 4: an entire game standpoint, it's a race to see how
• 34:01
  Speaker 4: many snaps can you get? And like this type offensive
• 34:04
  Speaker 4: philosophy is like if I can get the more snaps
• 34:07
  Speaker 4: on offense, I can get, the more chances I have
• 34:09
  Speaker 4: to put points up. Yeah, and it's weirdre going to
• 34:12
  Speaker 4: make you play very vanilla in the way we do it.
• 34:15
  Speaker 4: And we've never seen anything like this. So LSU, when
• 34:18
  Speaker 4: you watch the offense take the field the first time.
• 34:21
  Speaker 4: You've never seen these players. You've never seen this offense,
• 34:24
  Speaker 4: So like, what are we gonna get? We have no clue.
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we just hope.
• 34:27
  Speaker 4: It's going to be good. It better be good with
• 34:30
  Speaker 4: the amount of money invested.
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: And I think that the track record kind of speaks
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: for herself that you know, it's going to be a
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: much better product than you had a year ago. Now
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: maybe you can explain it better. There's a big difference
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: in like up tempo, no huddle, Like let's get to
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: the line and then look to the sideline, or let's
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: get to the line and let's make some checks. Yeah,
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: like this is different than that. Like this is true,
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: Like to your point, lsu Fens have never seen this before.
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: This is get the ball to the official spot the ball,
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: snap the ball. And I was talking with one of
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: the defensive guys a couple of weeks ago, and I'm like, hey,
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: how's the tempo been for y'all? He goes man, He's like,
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: they like these receivers and these you know, ball catchers,
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: they understand if you catch it outside of the hash,
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: outside of the numbers, Like there's a certain way to
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: give the official back the ball. If you catch it
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: in the middlefield, there's a way to spot the ball.
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: Like if you catch in the middle between the hashes,
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: like you spot the ball, immediately get on the ball,
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: right If you catch it outside of the hashes, it's
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: find the official, get them the ball, get on the
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: ball like. They practiced this and I talked about it
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago. I love the fact that, dude,
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: you can make the best catch.
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: In the world.
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: There's no celebrating, like, there's no like you know, first down,
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: which look, I love a good a.
• 35:40
  Speaker 3: I love that. There ain't none of that though exactly yeah,
• 35:44
  Speaker 3: there's none of that. Okay, it's get on the ball, spot.
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: The ball, snap the ball, attack and they are trained
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: like I love all that.
• 35:54
  Speaker 3: I love all of it.
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: But they're not gonna have that because go back and
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: watch old miss from the last couple of years. You
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: can make a toe tapping, incredible catch on the best corner.
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: In the nation. Typically you gonna leave no a little bit.
• 36:09
  Speaker 3: Not this.
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: It is find the official, getting the ball, spot the ball,
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: go And it's something you learn from drum maybe feeling do.
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: It like as you line up, hurry up, exactly correctly.
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: What is it? We ever figured out what that is?
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: But I can't, mainly because I don't know what it is.
• 36:29
  Speaker 3: I'm into it and more did it and more the
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: first one to do it.
• 36:32
  Speaker 5: Yeah, we'll say from like this, Now they do that.
• 36:35
  Speaker 5: I don't know it's it's evolved. Yeah, I like it.
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: She's right. The flip used to be vertical. Now it's like,
• 36:40
  Speaker 3: I don't know. I just don't know what it is.
• 36:42
  Speaker 5: I don't know what it is either, but I want
• 36:44
  Speaker 5: to do it every time.
• 36:45
  Speaker 3: I know is my two year old daughter, she's her
• 36:46
  Speaker 3: brother Harlow walking around.
• 36:48
  Speaker 5: I gotta see the video part.
• 36:52
  Speaker 4: The most like random celebrations that are created by males
• 36:58
  Speaker 4: and you know, eighteen to twenty five years old. I
• 37:00
  Speaker 4: assumed it came.
• 37:01
  Speaker 5: From some like a video game or something.
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: No like vulgar or derogatory.
• 37:06
  Speaker 4: I assume it has some undertone to that, but it's
• 37:09
  Speaker 4: like not real obvious.
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: I don't know what it is something like that. I
• 37:15
  Speaker 3: don't know what it is, but I assume.
• 37:16
  Speaker 4: You know, most celebrations that age group of males, red
• 37:21
  Speaker 4: blooded American males. You know, sometimes they like to make
• 37:24
  Speaker 4: each other laugh with some different subtle subtleties and.
• 37:27
  Speaker 5: Next time you see cam Ward you need to ask
• 37:29
  Speaker 5: him like, hey, where did this come from?
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah? I just want to do it. It's going to
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: be like cam sign my football card and explain the celebrations.
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: Just to see them at the line just hurrying up,
• 37:43
  Speaker 3: like lining up.
• 37:45
  Speaker 4: It's just like a fast forwards like as they're run
• 37:48
  Speaker 4: into the back.
• 37:51
  Speaker 3: Look if they do that, I don't care.
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: I don't want to Yeah, I just want to get
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: up and go because that is like that's your tool.
• 37:59
  Speaker 3: That is like we saw it.
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: A year ago, Like you can't bring all the stuff
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: that you want to bring against them because they line
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: up too damn fast. Yep, So you got to change
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: who you are, and that's what offensively, that's what you
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: want to do. You want to be the guy that
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: dictates the pace of the game and the flow of
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: the game. Oh yeah, you can't bring that safety from
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: depth because well that safety is just now getting lined up.
• 38:20
  Speaker 4: And I'll be so excited once the season actually does
• 38:22
  Speaker 4: start to be able to slow that down in the
• 38:25
  Speaker 4: film room too, and be able to show people exactly
• 38:29
  Speaker 4: what we mean about what the defense is not able
• 38:32
  Speaker 4: to do. Now we were I mean we saw it
• 38:34
  Speaker 4: against Ole miss Like looking at looking at the game
• 38:37
  Speaker 4: film of our defense versus them. You just have to
• 38:39
  Speaker 4: be so vanilla and so bland. And there's a difference
• 38:41
  Speaker 4: between Like there's regular no huddles. You can call them.
• 38:45
  Speaker 4: You can call it race car, you can call it
• 38:46
  Speaker 4: whatever you ask. Yeah, you can call it whatever it is.
• 38:50
  Speaker 4: But a lot most of the time it is some
• 38:52
  Speaker 4: sort of you know, receivers get on the line of scrimmage,
• 38:55
  Speaker 4: they don't ever come back to the huddle, but the
• 38:57
  Speaker 4: linemen turn around and they kind of muddle huddle a
• 38:59
  Speaker 4: little bit, and then you get up there and you
• 39:02
  Speaker 4: go fast to kind of to make the defense vanilla
• 39:06
  Speaker 4: for sure, but you go fast to be able to
• 39:08
  Speaker 4: see what they're trying to do. Now, you don't necessarily
• 39:10
  Speaker 4: always try to snap it fast. You can snap it
• 39:13
  Speaker 4: fast in a regular no huddle, but you're not like
• 39:16
  Speaker 4: you can still hardcount, you can trip like, you can
• 39:17
  Speaker 4: go in three, you can do all sorts of different things,
• 39:20
  Speaker 4: and you're really trying to get see what they're doing
• 39:24
  Speaker 4: so you can make an adjustment. Now in college, you
• 39:26
  Speaker 4: see the I hate it what they all everybody looks
• 39:29
  Speaker 4: at the sideline they hold up signs or do whatever
• 39:32
  Speaker 4: they do.
• 39:32
  Speaker 3: I hate all that stuff.
• 39:33
  Speaker 4: And the fake clap, of course, but that's the point
• 39:36
  Speaker 4: is to get up there, try to see what they're doing,
• 39:38
  Speaker 4: make a call and adjustment, and then it's the defensive job.
• 39:40
  Speaker 4: How big of a chess game do you want to play?
• 39:42
  Speaker 4: Do you want to make a change after they make
• 39:43
  Speaker 4: a change? Like you get into that whole situation, but
• 39:47
  Speaker 4: it's still an up tempo, but it's still a comfortable
• 39:51
  Speaker 4: pace for everybody. Yeah, you're just getting up there to
• 39:54
  Speaker 4: get them. In a little bit more bland situation. Now
• 39:57
  Speaker 4: with this ultra fast as many snaps, as probab gospel,
• 40:00
  Speaker 4: as fast as you can go, the defense has to
• 40:03
  Speaker 4: take another step down from what they can create. Like
• 40:06
  Speaker 4: in a no huddle situation, you can still have a
• 40:09
  Speaker 4: blitz package on defense, and you're still going to have
• 40:12
  Speaker 4: some sort of blitz package in a super fast no huddle,
• 40:15
  Speaker 4: but it is so much more bland. You can't do
• 40:18
  Speaker 4: anything creative. You can't have double a gap mugs, you
• 40:21
  Speaker 4: can't show one direction roll back to another, you can't
• 40:24
  Speaker 4: it's hard to bring a corner from the boundary, Like
• 40:27
  Speaker 4: it's hard to get creative with your blitzer, so that
• 40:29
  Speaker 4: makes your protections really easy. Yeah, you slide protect, but
• 40:34
  Speaker 4: the back clean up everybody else. It's like, it's one
• 40:36
  Speaker 4: of those situations where it's really simple calls, but you're
• 40:39
  Speaker 4: going against really simple calls. It's just at that point,
• 40:41
  Speaker 4: who can execute the basics of offense and defense? Who
• 40:45
  Speaker 4: can execute cover two versus a double stick better? Yeah,
• 40:49
  Speaker 4: you know what I mean? Who can execute cover three
• 40:51
  Speaker 4: versus line dragon? It's like, who can do these simple
• 40:56
  Speaker 4: things the best?
• 40:58
  Speaker 3: Man?
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: If you have the better dudes, usually you win. All right,
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: we'll take a break. Well done, sir, you're hovering over
• 41:07
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  Speaker 3: Welcome back in ot B. No, No, yeah, what almost nine?
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  Speaker 3: Oh my god, I completely forgot about it, I swear to.
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  Speaker 5: Okay, how could you forget?
• 43:16
  Speaker 3: He tweeted, it, really, I swear to God.
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  Speaker 5: And texted us last night.
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  Speaker 3: No, I really did forget about though, like not even
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  Speaker 3: to be funny.
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: So who sets a six thirty alarm for a nine
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  Speaker 1: am appearance?
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  Speaker 3: That's alarm when you live ten minutes still on the rope.
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  Speaker 5: He's too excited, all right?
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: Uh before he comes in and messes everything up, Tommy
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: before I mean just gonna who I don't even know.
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  Speaker 3: Who knows this would be the first time on with him,
• 43:41
  Speaker 3: huh for me? Yeah, yeah, God speed, thank you.
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: I did want to make sure I got this in today.
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  Speaker 5: Any jokes.
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: By the way, Baseball lost the legend Bobby Cox on Saturday.
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: So the Braids lost Ted Turner. I did see that
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: their owner, you know who brought the Braids to Superstation.
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: Then Bobby Cox a few days later again, he passed
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: away on Saturday at the age of eighty four.
• 44:07
  Speaker 3: Y'all know me.
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: I'm a gigantic Atlanta Brais fan. And what Bobby Cox
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: like was? I mean one two World Series manager year,
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: four times, you know, Hall of Famer for the Brase
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: Hall of Fame, Baseball Hall of Fame, like you name it.
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: He has certainly done a lot of incredible things on
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: the baseball field, most ejections as well. So he got
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: his money's worth, There's no doubt about that. There was
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: like a twenty minute reel on social media after he
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: passed away of just him getting ejected.
• 44:39
  Speaker 3: Twenty minutes. It was incredible.
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: I had a chance to meet him and talk with him.
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: I forget like nine or ten, and somebody posted the picture.
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: I didn't even know there was a picture out there.
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: Somebody posted the picture of me when they came to
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: play the Padres that year. I went down and I
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: used to be one of the first investors in Maruci,
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: so I got a chance to like go down there
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: and like pass out the talk bats would like.
• 45:05
  Speaker 3: I'm trying to think. I think maybe Brian Giles was
• 45:07
  Speaker 3: using them.
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: I know Gonzalez was using them there for the Padres,
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: but Freddie Freeman was using them. But I got a
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: chance to go down there and like talk baseball with him.
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: It was incredible, And Bobby Cox gave me like five
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: minutes of his time, which he certainly didn't have to,
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: and got a chance to meet with him. And again
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: somebody posted that picture. Didn't even know that that or
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: remember that it existed. But that's awesome, absolute legend. If
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: you grew up a Braves fan, you just waited for
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: the moment that he was going to explode and come
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: out and dug out.
• 45:37
  Speaker 3: There's like so many great stories.
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: But I remember the Phillies had hit one of the
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: Braves batters, I think it was Otis Nixon, and then
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: they were about to go out and Tom Glabbins on
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: the mound and Bobby's like, hey, whoever's next? They just
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: hit Otis one of our best players, Go hit the
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: first guy up whoever it is, And it was Brave's
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: former Legendale Murphy was the guy that was up. And
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: Tom looks at Bobby, he goes, hey, it's Murph. He goes, yeah,
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: throw it at him.
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  Speaker 5: Who cares?
• 46:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so what.
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, go get it back for your teammate. And so,
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: I mean, incredible stories over the weekend. Again, Bobby Cox
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: an absolute legend. Fourth most wins I believe all time
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: in Major League Baseball and somebody that certainly will always,
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: always always be remembered. Eighty four years old, passed away
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