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Aladdin (2019) and Hopeful Resilience | Mouse Ears Movie Thoughts Siblings · Yes And Land

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Welcome to Yes and Land, where we say yes to
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the reality of yesterday and today, and we say
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and to the possibility, growth, and imagination
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of tomorrow. Welcome to Yes and Land. We are
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very excited about our conversation today. We've
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actually got the hosts of another podcast that
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we came across that we think really does a great
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job of putting some great content out there,
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fun, engaging content. And these are the hosts
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of Mouse Ears Movie Thoughts. And these three
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hosts also happen to be siblings, which good
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for them that they were able to start a podcast
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with siblings. So they must get along to some
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degree. So welcome, you guys. Welcome to our
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podcast. Yeah, thanks for having us. Thank you
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for having us. This is amazing. Well, so let's
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start out here real quick. Why don't we start
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out with a quick introduction of each of you?
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So just kind of your name. and what role you
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play in the podcast that you guys do. I know
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obviously all three of you host the podcast,
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but I think that you each kind of have some distinct
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roles or focuses that you have. So names and
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kind of what your role is with the podcast. Well,
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my name is Riley, and my role is just kind of
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like the media person. So I am uploading stuff
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to Instagram and YouTube and just trying to really
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get like our name out there and promote us. a
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lot of images and media yeah fantastic uh i'm
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caleb and i'm the editor so i'm pretty self -explanatory
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i just edit all the stuff uh i'll get like audio
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clips and send them to her if she needs them
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for marketing something but that's kind of what
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i do and i'm hannah i really like to say that
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i'm kind of the manager of it i tend to be the
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one planning the meetings and making sure we
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have episode ideas i also do the scheduling coordinating
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all of our schedules and then putting them in
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calendars for everyone to do we're i'm also the
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one uh running the website yeah perfect so i
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mean as as you can tell there's a lot that goes
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into a podcast and um you know one of the things
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that obviously y 'all are doing well is Dividing
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and conquering, setting up yourself for your
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strengths. I'm guessing that you each kind of
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do those things because you've found some degree
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of strength or inclination towards those things
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that you can all kind of maximize what you get
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to do to put on your awesome podcast. So what
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we're going to do today. Well, actually, sorry,
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why don't you explain to you what your podcast
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is? So obviously, I mean, Mouse Deer's Movie
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Thoughts, that might be self -explanatory, but
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maybe not. So give us a little bit more about
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what exactly your podcast is and what you guys
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talk about. Yeah, so basically we're a Disney
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podcast, but specifically a Disney movie podcast.
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We talk all about Disney movies, Pixar movies,
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Marvel movies. pixar theory and easter eggs we
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do movie reviews but then we also like to do
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um like games so trivia and like drafts uh we
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like to do punishments and rewards with our games
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and we try to keep it really fun um top 10 or
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top 5 rankings where we compare to each other
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and a lot of it is kind of collaborating our
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ideas about different disney movies and debating
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different opinions that we have yeah we even
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do some like themed episodes if it's like near
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Christmas or I don't know any Thanksgiving you
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know stuff like that try to do some theme episodes
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basically we have always loved Disney and we've
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loved talking about Disney with each other and
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so we decided to make it a podcast yeah and it's
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been really really fun and now what started as
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like a passion project has really become even
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more than that And it's something that we look
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forward to every week and something that we're
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really trying to grow and expand, even if we're
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still young siblings. Yeah, and y 'all have been
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doing this for quite a while. Did I get this
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right that you're more than 160 episodes in?
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Is that right? Yeah. We've been going since the
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fall of 22. And of course, we were planning in
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like the summer of that year. Wow. I didn't know
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it had been that long. It's been a while. Yeah.
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That's three and a half, almost four years you've
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been going. So obviously you're doing something
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right. And that kind of leads us into really
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what we're talking about today, which is hopeful
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resilience. And we're going to be talking about
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that through the lens of Aladdin, but not just
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Aladdin. through the live action Aladdin from
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2019, which was just a gem and a movie that y
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'all selected. So we're going to dive into a
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little bit of why Aladdin and why the live action
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over the original animated movie back in the
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early 90s, long before y 'all were born, but
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was my growing up, was my childhood. And so it's
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going to be really fun for us to dive into that.
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Let's start here. Just in case someone's listening
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to our Disney podcast that doesn't know Aladdin,
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which would be wild, but just in case they don't,
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why don't one of you kind of set the stage for
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the overarching story of Aladdin? Well, yeah,
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sure. I mean, Aladdin, to summarize it, it's
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like the story of this... First of Aladdin, the
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main character, who kind of comes from a not
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so great background in terms of like royalty
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and like possessions and stuff like that. And
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he kind of gets thrown into this interesting
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situation of finding a genie that can make his
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dreams come true. But he kind of has to balance
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what he truly wants to live with and what he
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can obtain. But it might be like fake. It might
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not be actually. real because it's just a wish
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that the genie granted for him but he kind of
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has to balance what is actually valuable in life
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and what's not and then through that you know
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we get all this comedy and we get Jafar trying
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to I mean really stop him and get the genie for
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himself and then Aladdin ends up finding love
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and finding what he really wants in life and
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realizes that the love for Jasmine is more important
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than the wishes themselves and what fake things
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he could have obtained. Yeah. And maybe a note
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on why live action specifically. In this version,
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Jasmine has a bigger role in this hopeful resilience
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topic that we wanted to talk about. And also,
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Riley specifically likes the live action Aladdin
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more than the original. And so we wanted to...
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It ended up being a really great option because
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of Jasmine's... pertinence in it and kind of
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some additions that they added in yeah yeah i
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mean also um aladdin his whole upbringing is
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just like keep keep going keep doing what he
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knows he has to do and what's right even when
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he's not in the best situations Yeah, for sure.
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So Riley, I think you just said that Riley, you're
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the one that preferred the live action version.
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So we got to dive into why, right? Give us the
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breakdown, like defend the live action over the
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classic animated feature. Well, first of all,
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I think that the soundtrack is better. I mean,
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there's at least one new song in the live action
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than the original. It's Speechless. And I love
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that song. I think it's great. I think it adds
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to the movie. and I think that I like the live
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action more honestly because it was just like
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more in my time and so I think I just have kind
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of a better nostalgic like relationship with
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it maybe if that makes sense I just like it a
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lot better wow yeah I think what's interesting
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with the additional songs is there's been times
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when certain movies have been done and have additional
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songs that I just felt like they were fillers.
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It felt like the songs were there but didn't
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do a lot for it. But I agree with you, Riley,
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which is in this particular one, Jasmine's additional
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song, I think really brings a bit more heart
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to the story. I think it really expands a bit
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more on the understanding of Jasmine as a character
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and what she's going through and experiencing.
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That's one of the major differences where there
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is something to this live -action version, which
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is seeing more of the character arc and story
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arc of Jasmine, which you get a glimpse of in
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the original animated feature, but really more
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focused on Aladdin and what his journey is. This
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one, it's bringing in Jasmine, and I think it
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adds a layer of complexity that I think is really
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good. I think it just really enhances the story
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overall. Yeah, I agree. Okay, so let's dive back
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in a little bit about y 'all's story. So you're
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three siblings who clearly love Disney, and you
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guys have been passionate about Disney for a
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while. What made you decide to go from just three
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siblings that enjoy Disney, enjoy talking about
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Disney, to actually starting a podcast and putting
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your conversations out there for the public to
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consume? Yeah. Well, I think for a while, each
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of us separately even wanted to create something
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and put it out there, whether it was even just
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a YouTube channel or a podcast. We kind of just
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wanted to be creative in that way and share that.
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And nothing was really immediately striking for
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any of us. I think we all kind of nothing was
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really filling that as much as we wanted. we
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never got off to a like strong start and then
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eventually we like had an aha moment where we
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realized we love we talk about this with each
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other every time we watch a disney movie we talk
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about this with each other for sure every week
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at least and why not make that a podcast it would
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be so easy to take our conversations that we
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already have and put them onto a podcast yeah
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and share that with everyone else we really enjoy
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having like passion that imagination and kind
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of a time to free your mind from any real world
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stressors and it's still like good thought work
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and yeah that's something we want to share with
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everyone else yeah I think it just kind of like
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it happened I just remember one day you guys
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going like hey what if we just like start a podcast
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on this and I'm like yeah sure can we like I
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guess doesn't cost any money we just need a mic
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and yeah we started out with a single mic On
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a very small table that we all were leaning in
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over and just made it work. And then eventually
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as our passion and like intensity for it grew,
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we each got our own mics. And I mean, yeah, it
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just has really developed and transformed. For
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sure. Which I love. And I think it ties in really
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well to something that Aladdin says at the very
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beginning of the movie. And I'm going to read
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this this quote and get you guys take on it specifically
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as it relates to what you guys did initially.
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So at the very beginning and he's talking about
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being a street rat and he says, if you don't
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have anything, you have to act like you own everything.
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And and so, you know. Talk me through what that
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means to y 'all when you're starting this podcast
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and initially you don't have anything. I mean,
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you've got some ideas, but you actually don't
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have anything. And what so what did you have
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at that point in time? What were you betting
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on that you could build to put out there? Yeah,
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I mean, I think that that quote really hits home
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for us in our podcast, especially in the beginning,
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because like like you were just saying, we don't
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really have anything, especially when you first
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start. and but the one thing you do have is your
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voice and your content and what you're going
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to talk about and I think that is really what
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we focused on of like as long as we can have
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good um good discussions good content and we
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can just talk and I think that really helps having
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three siblings is we have three different opinions
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and we're very close so we can bounce off one
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another and like really do like a deep dive while
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adding some laughter and fun into the mix so
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i would say focusing on the content itself and
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then you know the the mic and the softwares and
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like everything builds around that but if we
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didn't really have anything good to talk about
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it wouldn't really matter yeah a little bit of
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our beginning days was like make it till you
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make it like we don't have anything else but
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we have ideas and so we're gonna pretend like
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our quality is our like our mic quality is good
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when it was it was so hard to work with we're
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gonna edit things like the night before because
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we're having problems every time but it's still
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coming out like no one has to know and then eventually
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we're not faking it anymore we understand what
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we're doing we get a week out we know what's
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expected of us yeah because then before you know
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it it's just the truth like once you're getting
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consistent like consistent downloads then you're
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just going to grow bigger and then we were able
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to get more mics and now we never looked like
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we were struggling because now we aren't struggling
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it's almost funny to look back and think of those
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days where i mean we keep looking over there
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because the one mic is sitting in the corner
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and rejected now but yeah it's just insane to
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think of where we started with one mic we we
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really had nothing else like this It's kind of
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like you have nothing else. All you have is,
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yeah. It's kind of like a fake it till you make
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it type of situation. And I mean, don't get me
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wrong. You can definitely like hear the difference.
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Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Throughout the podcast. But
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I mean, even when I remember way back when we
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were recording our first episodes and we were
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trying to figure out how long should we make
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this. And we expected to be like a 20 minute
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conversation or something. And then we ramble
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on for like 45 minutes and like. we don't realize
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how much we have to talk about an offer until
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we hit record yeah yeah i think that's one of
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the keys for for people and you know what i think
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what people listening can take away from that
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is that it's okay to just start you know y 'all
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believed in what you could do and one of the
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things i really heard too that that i think is
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really important is that you also were just going
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to have fun like you weren't taking yourselves
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too seriously you weren't And it sounds like
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you hopefully weren't overthinking it as well,
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that you're just getting into it like, hey, we
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have fun conversations. We enjoy it. We feel
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like we have something good we can put out there.
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So we're just going to do it. And when you when
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you're willing to take those steps, then, yeah,
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you're going to stumble along the way, but you
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can learn from it. And, you know, it's it's then
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you don't have any regrets of not taking that
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opportunity to try. And then as you go, like
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you said, now suddenly you've. Your quality is
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going up. You're suddenly discovering what your
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voices are. You're discovering that you actually
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have more to say than maybe you even initially
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thought. And none of that discovery would have
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happened if you hadn't been willing to say, hey,
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look, maybe we don't have anything right now,
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but we think we do. And we're going to build
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towards it. So one of the things I wanted to
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ask you about that I heard in some of the prep
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that we did, which is that you had numerous difficulties
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and setbacks along the way. And so maybe talk
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to us a little bit about like, what were some
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of those setbacks? What were some of those difficulties
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that you had along the way? Who wants to start?
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Start. I think in each of our areas of expertise,
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we probably had different setbacks. So for, oh
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boy. So I guess I'll go with, I'll leave editing
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for Caleb because that's a whole different one.
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That is. I guess for me, one of the biggest ones
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we've come into. one of our first biggest problems
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was running out of our initial episode ideas
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we didn't know we didn't realize how often we
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were going to be recording and how much we would
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have to say and once we kind of ran out of those
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initial I don't know it was maybe about a year
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of ideas we really had to like rethink reimagine
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what we were going to be doing what was the real
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like purpose of this podcast what did we want
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to talk about and that did a lot we did I would
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say that was one of the biggest leaps forward
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for our podcast. That was when we introduced
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Marvel, decided we were going to have more of
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a complete Disney picture. And that was really
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like a springboard that made us into the podcast
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that we have today. Because it was almost like
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we were limiting ourselves without even realizing
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it. And it took us hitting that wall of... We
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don't know what we're recording today. Like,
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we don't have something to put out in two days.
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So it really took a couple months, maybe, of
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struggle before we freed up our minds. And it's
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so much easier for us to come up with conversation
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topics and everything else. Yeah, for sure. I
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would say for the editing point of view, at least
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for me, it was just learning how to edit. I mean,
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I've never, like... taken a audio editing class
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or anything so like just watching a lot of videos
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and editing a lot of episodes and then you know
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as you get higher up it's like well hey what
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if we have like some like we create a little
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intro music little outro and then it's like well
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hey what if we like cut out that part and add
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in like a little background music or something
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and like over time it builds and builds and Yeah,
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I would say it was a big setback, a big struggle
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at the beginning of like, I don't even know what
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app to use. I don't know how to edit this. But
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then it kind of builds over time. And I would
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say another thing for you would be the scheduling.
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Yeah, that was the other thing I was going to
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say. Having three of us makes it very difficult
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at times to set up. Yeah, three people who are
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teenagers and have sports and school. It's almost
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harder to plan. I guess this is our opinion,
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but because we don't have regular work hours,
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there is almost never a time that is, like, completely,
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everyone is guaranteed to be free every week.
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So that was hard to find a guaranteed reporting
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time. And a huge setback was when you went to
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college. That would be the other one I was going
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to say. We had to figure out, okay, when is she
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coming home? Okay, we got to record now. But
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then we also need to figure out when to edit.
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And then, like, we just had to get that routine.
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We... Do you want to go? Well, I was going to
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say a big thing that we like learn, if not learn,
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like started doing after that was pre -recording
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a bunch of stuff. And then I can just edit it
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whenever and set it to upload on a certain day
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at a certain time. So we don't have to be confined
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to doing the same like routine every week so
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that something comes out. But like if someone
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has to go on a vacation for school or something
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like that. then we have an option now where we
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can still make that work. Yeah. And so much of
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this is like, we didn't even realize, like with
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Caleb, when the editing, we didn't realize what
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editing software we had. And so we like had to
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discover what we had. We didn't know how many
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ideas we had. So we had to force ourselves to
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find them. We didn't even realize that we were
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still going to be doing the podcast by the time
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I went to college. And so that was a whole other
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thing of like, we're at this point and we didn't
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think we would even still be going. But we want
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to keep going. Before we jump back in, can I
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ask you a quick favor? If you're enjoying the
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you. We can design and create and build the most
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wonderful place in the world, but it takes people
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to make the dream a reality. Jumping back into
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kind of where we were. One of the things that
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I wanted to ask you all about when it comes to,
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you know, when you're starting something new,
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especially creatively, professionally, is I'm
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going to bring you to another quote from Aladdin.
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And this is a quote from the genie. And he's
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talking to Aladdin and he says, I made you look
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like a prince on the outside, but I didn't change
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anything on the inside. Prince Ali got you to
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the door, but Aladdin asked to open it. So I
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want to get your guys' take on that when we're
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talking about this idea of hopeful resilience
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and when you're starting out with something and
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just having to take a step and a stab at it,
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even when maybe you don't have it fully developed
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or don't yet have the confidence to accomplish
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something. That's a really good quote. And I
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think that is very much true, like kind of with
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our podcast, like you can. keep on putting out
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episodes, especially in the beginning and everything.
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But there does come to a point where if you want
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it to get more, you have to do more. And so that's
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why we started media and, you know, really putting
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a lot more effort into our editing and stuff.
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Yeah, I think with anything that you're trying
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to do, it's really easy to get started and like,
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you know, make the goals and all these things.
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But I think it's really hard to consistently
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keep it going or like Riley was saying, grow
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and like strive to do better. And I think there's
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a lot of things where it can, like the quote
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was saying, get you through the door. But I mean,
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eventually you kind of got to push hard and make
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it happen yourself. You can't expect it to just
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work out for you. You have to put in the effort
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because nothing comes just easily. Yeah. The
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hope for resilience ties in of like, you need
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to get your immediate. enthusiasm and joy can't
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get you everywhere and you really need to sit
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down and sit with yourself sit with your friends
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your siblings your colleagues yes your colleagues
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to work out how you're going to move forward
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and you can't just give up at that whatever you
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did that got you to the door is good but you
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need to develop almost a new skill set to be
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able to get through that door yeah i think that's
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exactly right there's another quote it's a quote
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from mel robbins She's an author and she's got
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a really popular podcast. And she said something
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that I think is exactly in line with this. She
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said, life is gritty and hard. And then suddenly
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it is brilliant and amazing. I just love that
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because there's times where it's just hard. You
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know, you're just pushing through. You're finding
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a way to push through. And if you continue to
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do so, especially if it's something that you
23:55
believe in. That you'll suddenly turn around
23:58
and be like, wait a second, I'm actually doing
23:59
something really great. I'm doing something really
24:02
brilliant. And it's really fulfilling. And I
24:05
really love it. And if you stop too soon, you
24:10
don't get to that point. If you give up too early,
24:14
you don't push through that grittiness and the
24:17
difficulty. You never find that brilliance and
24:20
that amazing that's sometimes just. just around
24:23
the corner. Uh, it will only push through. So,
24:27
okay. So one of the things I wanted to get your
24:29
take on as well as is, I think it was rather
24:31
that you brought it up at the beginning, which
24:32
is this idea of hopeful resilience, especially
24:34
when it comes to Jasmine and the, the nuanced
24:38
difference here at the live action versus the
24:40
animated. So maybe talk to us a little bit about
24:42
what, what did you think of when, when you thought
24:46
about this topic and y 'all came up with this
24:47
topic and you thought about Jasmine? I think
24:51
that you can see, especially in the live action,
24:54
you can see just like kind of her life and kind
24:58
of like, I don't know, her personality, maybe
25:00
a lot more, especially with the song Speechless
25:02
in the live action. And I think you can just
25:05
see how like her dad and there's her royal family
25:10
and everything. And there's that she has to choose
25:12
between them, but then also Aladdin and like
25:15
this completely different world. And so you can
25:18
just. really tell like a lot more into her life
25:21
and how she has to pursue what she really wants
25:24
to do yeah and i think uh in the movie when she
25:28
keeps you know rejecting these princes who are
25:32
coming from all these other lands and you know
25:35
she's saying no to them knowing that eventually
25:39
she either has to marry one of them or she's
25:41
just going to be living you know in the castle
25:44
her entire life And so she's rejecting them knowing
25:48
that she doesn't know what's going to happen
25:51
in the future. And I think that is kind of the
25:53
essence of hopeful resilience is keeping going
25:58
on what you are trying to do, even though you
26:01
may not know if the outcome is even possible.
26:04
And then the live action ties into she goes out
26:07
and gets it herself. And I think that's the whole
26:08
point of Speechless, her song. It's like she
26:12
believes in what she's doing and she goes and
26:14
gets it. Yeah. Nothing's ever going to come or
26:17
be something if you don't work hard for it or
26:20
get it yourself. Yeah, this reminds me of a quote
26:26
as well that I'd written down. This is from a
26:28
guy named Daniel Pink. And he's another author,
26:32
public speaker, kind of thought leader out there.
26:35
And he has this quote, says, asking why can lead
26:39
to understanding. Asking why not can lead to
26:44
breakthroughs. And I was recently having a conversation
26:47
with Bob Weiss, who is the former president of
26:50
Walt Disney Imagineering. And I asked him what
26:52
his personal why was. And he said, it's why not?
26:55
And that was kind of his approach and the creative
26:58
endeavors. I mean, he's worked on every Disney
27:01
theme park there is. He headed up a Disney Shanghai,
27:04
a Disney Tokyo Sea and worked on all the others
27:06
as well. And I love this idea of why not? And
27:09
I think that's in part what you're kind of describing
27:12
here with Jasmine is. And it's, okay, why do
27:15
I have to go meet with these princes? Why do
27:17
I have – we have to have this law in place that
27:19
requires me to marry a prince. Why do I have
27:21
to do these things? And then suddenly she starts
27:23
asking herself, why not? Why can't I do it different?
27:26
Why can't I do something different? Why can't
27:29
I be the one that breaks this trend of having
27:32
to follow this ridiculous rule that's in place?
27:35
And when she does, then suddenly it opens up
27:38
a world of possibilities for her on things that
27:41
– maybe others would have assumed wasn't possible.
27:46
What do y 'all think about that? Yeah, I think
27:49
a lot of our podcast has been, why not? Why we
27:53
have an idea and we think, oh, well, that's just
27:56
an idea. That's just something to throw out there.
27:58
I really think, why not? Why don't we add YouTube
28:03
or Instagram? Why don't we add a website? Why
28:06
don't we include mini episodes, which are just
28:09
10 to 15 minute episodes? and I think it's just
28:13
so helpful we we notice a problem and we think
28:15
gosh it would be so nice if we could solve this
28:18
problem just by doing this and well why not do
28:22
that like I think I think that a lot of people
28:25
when they like think about I don't know doing
28:27
something new or you know you get into a routine
28:30
and then they try to overthink that and go like
28:35
oh but then you know there's all this and this
28:37
and that that comes with doing that but like
28:39
just why not just do it like why not yeah and
28:44
you you don't need to necessarily jump into whatever
28:47
you want to do and expect yourself to be professional
28:51
at it immediately but i mean jasmine i don't
28:54
think knew that eventually this magic guy would
28:57
come along or that her dad would change the law
29:00
but like you know she says no she rejects it
29:03
she knows what she knows is right and what she
29:06
wants to do even when she doesn't necessarily
29:09
know what might come of it yeah she kind of sees
29:13
this third option of well i have to either say
29:16
like yes or i'm just doomed forever like eventually
29:20
i need to or else the legacy of the kingdom is
29:22
never gonna keep going but she kind of sees of
29:25
well there is a third option it's just not easy
29:29
it's going to be hard no one is going to appreciate
29:32
this decision that i'm making but it is still
29:35
there and that's one of the hardest things about
29:37
going through with difficult process is realizing
29:43
those third options and taking advantage of them
29:48
yeah and like nowadays things that people think
29:51
are just everyday conventional things at some
29:54
point someone had to think why not Why don't
29:59
we have whatever the thing might be? And then
30:02
someone went out and made it and now it's normal.
30:04
So I'm like, gotta go do it. Yeah, I think that's
30:11
right. I mean, I think so many people can adopt
30:14
that more in their lives, learning the lessons
30:17
from Jasmine or from Aladdin, from the story
30:21
that you guys have. And that's one of the great
30:22
things about Disney movies and storytelling is
30:25
it helps open our eyes. for the things in our
30:28
lives if if more people who have let self -doubt
30:33
and fear hold them back suddenly changed their
30:38
mindset to say why not to try something different
30:43
to try something new or to go out for that promotion
30:45
or try that new side hustle or try that new venture
30:49
or start their own podcast then suddenly What
30:54
we start to do is we start to build something
30:56
much more fulfilling in our life. And, you know,
30:59
one of the things I was thinking about with this,
31:02
especially with the three of you together, is
31:04
doing it as a team. You know, certainly Jasmine
31:08
had to have that self -belief to try to do something
31:13
different and more. And also she needed... kind
31:16
of a team around her, right? Those around who
31:19
did believe in her so that she could accomplish
31:24
something different and better. And there's a
31:26
quote from one of my favorite people, Simon Sinek,
31:29
and he said, leaps of greatness require the combined
31:31
problem -solving ability of people who trust
31:34
each other. So I wonder if you can comment on
31:37
that about the trust that the three of you have
31:39
had to have with each other, even if you have
31:42
disagreements, even if you've had things that
31:44
are difficult that have allowed you to continue
31:47
creating this podcast, continue putting it out,
31:51
continue improving it and making it something
31:53
really great. What does that look like? How have
31:55
you built that trust? How have you fostered that
31:57
trust and work together? Yeah, I think that's
32:01
something that I mean, Simon Sinek, I've heard
32:03
a lot of his videos and whatnot in my in college.
32:07
And I think it is something that we've had to
32:10
implement a lot, especially in my like role as
32:14
manager of kind of organizing things, getting
32:17
people together. It takes a lot of it's hard
32:21
to find a balance sometimes of trusting your
32:24
teammates. Yeah, I mean, trusting Caleb, he's
32:26
gonna edit trusting Riley that she's gonna post.
32:29
Trusting me that I'm going to let them know what
32:32
they're doing before the day of, it takes a lot
32:35
of trust. And I think that's been something that
32:37
we've navigated throughout the years is finding
32:40
that balance between each other. Yeah, I think
32:47
that that is pretty much big. I mean, she basically
32:50
stole the words out of my mouth. like you said
32:53
it is it's hard because you want to like like
32:56
say Caleb I want to like oh remind him okay you
32:58
got to edit today you know we're uploading tomorrow
33:00
but I need to trust that like okay he he got
33:03
he's got that done you know like he's got my
33:05
back and he has to trust that I'm you know uploading
33:08
consistently to media and then I have to trust
33:11
Hannah that you know she's getting our website
33:14
done and everything there's just so much to trust
33:18
and specifically with me and Riley you just reminded
33:21
me of this um I will when I'm editing I will
33:25
find like time stamps and like audio like clips
33:29
snippets where we can post them and it'll we
33:33
have like little audiograms that we'll put up
33:34
of like clips of our podcast and I will just
33:38
go in and put the time stamp in like a note for
33:41
Riley to see And she has to trust that I'll find
33:44
it and put it in there. But then I also have
33:46
to trust that she'll make sure that she sees
33:49
that and goes and puts it up. And sometimes we
33:51
don't even have to tell each other that it's
33:54
there. It's just kind of a consistent routine
33:56
that we trust. As long as everyone's doing our
33:58
job, everything's run smoothly. And part of that
34:01
comes from reliance on each other. You kind of
34:05
develop a trust because you're... You have to
34:09
put in work yourself because you know that two
34:11
other people are depending on you and that they're
34:14
going to be expecting results at the end of the
34:17
week. And so it's a way of external motivation,
34:20
but really from yourself too, because you don't
34:23
want to let down your teammates and you really
34:25
don't want to let down your siblings. Yeah, and
34:28
I think part of that is when you have clear goals,
34:34
clear responsibilities, and the team functions
34:38
through that clarity, then the trust comes a
34:43
little bit easier because then it is clear, okay,
34:45
hey, you know, here, this is when the episode
34:50
comes. This is when it's edited. This is when
34:52
we need to have it. This is when it needs to
34:54
be uploaded. These are the steps that need to
34:55
be taken. And you can apply that to any project
34:57
that any team has, you know, in any industry.
35:00
Whereas if you have clearly defined roles and
35:02
it's clear about what is expected, then, then,
35:06
It's clear that the things need to happen. And
35:08
you do, you have that trust with each other because
35:10
it's clear. And you also, exactly like you said,
35:13
you don't want to let down the rest of your team.
35:15
You know what your job is. And you know that
35:17
in order for somebody else to complete their
35:19
job and their portion to bring this greatness
35:21
and this magic to the table. you have to do your
35:24
things on the time that you committed um and
35:27
so that you don't let them down and and that
35:30
becomes a really helpful way for a team to build
35:33
that trust is because you do you like you want
35:35
to support each other you want to make sure you
35:36
empower the other people on your team to be able
35:38
to be successful as well and that requires you
35:40
to do everything that you can do and that you
35:42
need to do um one more quote i want to take you
35:45
to before we hit some fun segments here is That's
35:49
a quote from Jasmine since one of our big topic
35:51
series, Jasmine, and something that she said
35:53
really stuck out. And she said, our greatest
35:57
challenge isn't speaking up against our enemies,
36:00
but defying those whose approval we seek the
36:04
most. Isn't that interesting? Let me read it
36:06
one more time. Our greatest challenge isn't speaking
36:09
up against our enemies, but defying those whose
36:13
approval we seek the most. Let's get your take
36:17
on that. yeah I mean I think it's a lot easier
36:21
to to speak up and talk to someone who I mean
36:24
if you're being honest you might not care what
36:26
they have to say about you or what you say to
36:29
them because like you know you if you disagree
36:31
you obviously aren't the the best of friends
36:35
I would imagine but you probably it's a lot easier
36:38
to talk to people and stand up to them when you
36:41
don't care what they think of you yeah when that's
36:46
something that we've had to work I think that
36:50
we've built really well actually over the years
36:52
when we have discussions about okay it's time
36:55
we gotta make episode ideas or something like
36:57
that and we have to like present these things
37:00
to each other over every month or so and it's
37:04
it's hard but you do need to stand up of I don't
37:08
think this is gonna work I don't think we're
37:10
gonna be able to have 30 minutes of conversation
37:12
or if someone has an episode or an idea for the
37:15
podcast itself even it's a lot of give and take
37:20
and there's reminds me of another movie quote
37:23
but um in harry potter the quote of it's takes
37:28
a great deal of courage to stand up to your enemies
37:30
but a great deal more courage to stand up to
37:32
your friends and i think that is something that
37:35
we've really strengthened i would say that yeah
37:37
i think it's hard because you You care what they
37:40
think, you know? Like, you want them to like
37:42
your idea. I'll be honest, a lot of the episode
37:44
ideas I throw out there, they get shut down.
37:47
I don't know about that one. I think so, but
37:49
just because, like, you can't talk about them
37:52
for that long, you know? Yeah. Like, oh, sure,
37:55
yeah, we can talk about that right now for five
37:56
minutes, but you can't turn it into a full episode.
37:59
But we can make a mini. And so I think a lot
38:01
of that is negotiation and compromise and, I
38:05
don't know, I think a lot of working with each
38:06
other and being honest. You need honesty if you're
38:10
going to be a part of a team. You do. And I would
38:12
say whether you're the one saying something that
38:15
someone else is saying back at you or if you're
38:18
the one who's commenting on the original thought,
38:22
I think you have to be open to the other person
38:24
might just disagree with you. And you have to
38:27
be open to the fact that you guys don't have
38:30
to completely agree and you can still come to
38:33
a conclusion that's for the betterment of the
38:36
whole system itself. That is something we really
38:38
enjoy doing on episodes itself. We just had an
38:41
episode about live action remake and it was a
38:44
debate between Caleb and Riley because they have
38:48
different opinions of what a live action remake
38:50
should be about and what makes a live action
38:53
good. And so much of our podcast is debating
38:57
each other and like having differing opinions.
39:00
And we all know by this point after years, we
39:02
know some of our like hottest takes for each
39:04
of us. And it's really like, a fun center of
39:08
our podcast. At least for me, I really enjoy
39:10
when those things come up. I mean, they're bound
39:13
to be almost every episode. I have a hot take.
39:15
Riley does have a lot of hot takes. Hot takes
39:19
are great. I mean, I think at the end of the
39:21
day, you just, you come together and you realize
39:23
this isn't like the end of the world. If we disagree
39:25
on this subject, it's not, you know, it's not
39:28
going to break any friendships. We're still going
39:30
to have a good time. Yeah. Yeah. And as you build
39:33
that team and you have that trust, it, then then
39:37
somebody's not threatened by somebody else having
39:40
a different opinion um and and when we can embrace
39:44
that that somebody else can have a different
39:46
perspective a different opinion without threatening
39:48
our you know safety or sense of being because
39:51
it doesn't because it doesn't have to we don't
39:54
have to stand in our own way then suddenly we
39:56
come with better ideas we can come up with greater
39:59
solutions we can problem solve in a more effective
40:02
way if we'll do it and not be afraid to put our
40:06
ideas out there okay so here's what i want to
40:09
take you to so we do a couple of fun segments
40:11
towards the end of each episode the first segment
40:13
is called this or that right classic this or
40:16
that everybody knows what a this or that is There's
40:19
no right or wrong answers, but you may have to
40:22
defend your controversial opinion, especially
40:24
if it's a hot take. Especially if it's a hot
40:28
take. Okay, so we'll have each of you answer
40:30
each one of these, okay? And then we'll have
40:32
to see if there's any healthy debate about them.
40:35
Okay, here's the first one. Magic carpet or the
40:39
genie's lamp? Magic carpet. Magic carpet. What
40:47
about it? Like you get it. Yeah, you get it.
40:51
I'm assuming. I'm going to go genius lamp because
40:54
I'm afraid of heights. Yeah. Okay. That's an
40:58
acceptable answer. I do think the magic carpet
41:00
is a fun personality that makes the carpet pretty
41:04
fun. And it lasts longer. For sure. So, okay.
41:09
Let's say the Agrabah marketplace or the palace
41:13
rooftop. Rooftop. Yeah, I think it's got to be
41:18
rooftop, honestly. Yeah, I go rooftop. Yeah,
41:26
I think the rooftop's the place to go. Just the
41:28
views are going to be awesome, and you can see
41:29
all of Agrabah. I mean, the marketplace is certainly
41:32
an interesting place. It would be kind of fun
41:34
to walk around the different shops and stuff
41:36
there, but it'd be something majestic about the
41:39
palace rooftop. Okay, here's a tough one. Abu?
41:44
The monkey or Raja the tiger? A boo. Wow, that
41:49
was awesome. Are you kidding me? This isn't even
41:52
a question, guys. I'm going to go with a boo.
41:55
Just because the convenience of a monkey being
41:58
on my shoulder I think is a lot easier than a
42:00
tiger walking into me. But a boo is the start
42:05
of all Aladdin's problems. And Raja has a lie
42:09
detector built in. He's pretty awesome. But he's
42:12
cute and he can climb around. He'll think it's
42:14
not saying I don't want anything stolen. I don't
42:18
want anything stolen. But you know, like, convenient.
42:22
I don't know. I mean, yeah. It's cool to have
42:25
him on his shoulder. He could be like a security
42:27
guard for you all. It's cool to have him on his
42:30
shoulder, but I think I might take Raja. I also
42:32
just like big animals like that. Yeah. Okay,
42:36
I like it. See, I was thinking we might have
42:38
some disagreement about some of these, so I like
42:40
that one. I like the take on Raja being kind
42:42
of the built -in lie detector because you're
42:44
right, that is one of his superpowers, isn't
42:46
it? Okay, here's another one. Here's the next
42:49
one. The Prince Ali entrance and song or a whole
42:56
new world and the carpet ride? I think I know
43:02
Caleb's because he said he didn't like heights,
43:04
but we'll see. Yeah. I'm going to go the Prince
43:08
Ali entrance just because it's just so grand.
43:12
It's like a Disney parade but with elephants.
43:17
Okay, it depends on if I'm watching the parade
43:20
or in the parade. Oh yeah, I don't know. Let's
43:23
say watching. We'll go watching. Okay, yeah.
43:28
I think I might have to take the whole new world.
43:32
Oh boy. It's a good one. I mean, Whole New World's
43:36
pretty amazing. It is pretty amazing. Yeah, and
43:39
you get to see, like, everything. Like, oh my
43:42
gosh. Yeah, okay. I'll do the Whole New World.
43:45
Yes, good job. Okay, I like it. I like it. Okay,
43:50
here's the next one. This one might be tough.
43:56
Will Smith as the genie or Robin Williams as
44:01
the genie? Oh, this is hard. This is very hard.
44:06
I almost feel like each one was the perfect genie
44:11
for the type of Aladdin they were in. I think
44:16
it's tough because in the Will Smith one, they
44:20
just have CGI and it's just him flying in blue.
44:25
I think Robin Williams gives a lot more character
44:29
to him. Personality? Yeah. But at the same time,
44:34
that is a tough, tough choice there. I feel like
44:38
I'm leaning towards Robin Williams, but I might
44:41
pick Robin Williams. That is really hard. But
44:44
again, I feel like each one fit the different
44:48
roles for like a live action versus an animated.
44:52
Yeah, I agree. I might take the Robin Williams
44:55
role. Who doesn't love Robin Williams? Yeah.
44:59
And see, this is one where my age over y 'all
45:03
is a defining one here, because for me, it's
45:06
a piece of cake on this one. It's definitely
45:07
Robin Williams, because I grew up with it. Right.
45:11
I mean, Robin Williams was the heart and soul
45:13
of that movie. Absolutely hysterical. I mean,
45:16
I think the one that I don't know if y 'all have
45:18
ever seen. Aladdin, the musical, either on Broadway
45:25
or in the traveling ones. But every time I see
45:28
a genie on there, they're drawing so much of
45:31
the Robin Williams humor that just makes it so
45:34
funny. And I just love it. And it's not that
45:36
Will Smith is bad, but boy, I love me some Robin
45:39
Williams genie. He is hilarious. Oh, yeah. It's
45:43
his own character. He really does steal the show.
45:46
Yeah. Okay, here's the next one. And I don't
45:49
know if y 'all are big Disneyland folk or not,
45:52
but we're going to take a stab at this one, okay?
45:55
Disneyland or California Adventure? Disneyland
45:59
for me, personally. Okay, name me some of these
46:06
California Adventure. Didn't California Adventure
46:08
just open up like Marvel Campus a few years back?
46:12
Yep. Really? Oh, gosh. I think I'm up to date
46:17
on my California Adventure. California Adventure
46:20
has Cars Land, right? It does, yeah. The Cars
46:25
ride has Cars Land. It has the Spider -Man ride
46:28
now. Yeah, California Adventure. I do love me
46:32
Radiator Springs Racers. Mm -hmm. I think I'll
46:38
go Disneyland just for the history and nostalgia
46:42
of it. But they've really been doing some good
46:44
things to California Adventure. I think I have
46:46
to go with California Adventure because it has
46:47
Tower of Terror, right? Or was it? Which is now
46:51
Guardians of the Galaxy. Yeah, Guardians of the
46:53
Galaxy. I think I have to go with California
46:55
Adventure. Yeah, Pixar Pier is really great.
46:59
Yeah, this is a much tougher question than it
47:02
used to be. It used to be, especially when California
47:05
Adventure first opened, it was a piece of cake
47:07
Disneyland. But boy, they have just put out some
47:11
killer rides and lands at California Adventure
47:14
because Radiator Springs was not original to
47:17
California Adventure. That was an addition later
47:19
on. Tower of Terror was amazing. Love the update
47:22
with Guardians. They now have the Spider -Man
47:24
ride in Avengers Campus. I love the re -theme
47:27
on the roller coaster to the Incredicoaster.
47:30
Just such a fun re -theme there. I'm probably
47:34
slanted California Adventure now, which I never
47:37
would have thought when it first opened. It's
47:39
so wild, but it is our blast. It almost feels
47:43
a little traitorous, but it's pretty good. Okay,
47:48
here's another tough one for you, I think, because
47:50
y 'all have talked about kind of expanding your
47:53
podcast into Marvel stuff. So I decided to dive
47:55
into a little bit of Marvel here. And this one
47:57
may be a tough one. So Iron Man or Captain America?
48:04
Iron Man. That is a question. Iron Man. Captain
48:09
America. Wait, wait, wait. Are we talking about
48:11
like with the Civil War debate? Like, or just
48:14
their characters? Just whatever, however you
48:17
want to take it. Oh, gosh. I'm just going characters.
48:21
I think I'm going to go Iron Man. Yeah, I think
48:23
it's Iron Man. Oh, my gosh. I think that his
48:26
character arc is just insane. Okay, sure. The
48:29
first time I'm ever agreeing with Caleb. I do
48:34
think he has a great arc. Although I can respect
48:38
Captain America for what he believes in. Yeah.
48:42
He's just so consistent. But I could see if you
48:47
liked Iron Man's arc, that would be a difference.
48:49
I mean, he did make the ultimate sacrifice at
48:51
the end of his nap. He did. I mean, yeah. Yeah,
48:57
I think I have to go with Iron Man. Yeah, me
48:58
too. Iron Man's kind of funny because he's so,
49:02
like, doesn't care. Yeah, he doesn't really care.
49:06
Yeah. So we have, did I hear two Iron Mans? yes
49:13
yeah yeah and then that one captain america i
49:17
think so yeah okay okay see i knew that was going
49:20
to be a tough one uh because honestly they're
49:23
both so great i mean honestly they're they're
49:25
just two absolutely fantastic characters i i
49:28
have to go iron man for me i uh enjoyed marvel
49:32
before the first iron man it wasn't that i didn't
49:34
love like them but i didn't love it i didn't
49:37
yeah i kind of knew spider -man but i didn't
49:39
really know much beyond that and then suddenly
49:41
once iron man the first one came out oh i was
49:44
all in on marvel and just love iron man from
49:48
that time going forward um I do think Captain
49:52
America is a real close, close call there, but
49:55
there's something about Iron Man that was pretty
49:57
fantastic. And you're right, made the ultimate
49:59
sacrifice at the end, right? It's a good call.
50:02
Yeah, I might be convinced. I think even the
50:05
other, what you're saying about his movies specifically,
50:08
I think his movies are more like consistently
50:13
have everything I want with like the humor and
50:15
action. I feel like Captain America movies, Captain
50:19
America movies are more like, It's not all at
50:21
once funny and action. But, I mean, Pepper Potts
50:25
even in Captain America. Iron Man. Oh, boy. Yeah,
50:31
I think I'll be convinced by that. Yeah, Pepper
50:34
Potts is pretty awesome. Okay, here's our rapid
50:37
fire. So we're just going to run one right after
50:40
the other and get you all's answer on each of
50:43
these, okay? You ready for this? Yep. Okay, here
50:46
it is. Favorite Disney movie. Tangled, live action,
50:53
live. Okay, all three different. I love it. Favorite
50:57
Disney song? Oh. Yikes. I just can't wait to
51:03
begin. Makes sense, because Lion King. That's
51:08
a tough question. That is an insane question.
51:12
One Jump Ahead. Oh, that is so good. I don't
51:21
even know if I have one. We'll say if we're going
51:25
from my movie. I might do The Circle of Life.
51:30
I don't know. Same movie? Well, I love the movie.
51:34
All right. I don't know. We'll do just I See
51:39
the Light. that's a good one that's good it is
51:42
a good one and entangled i think was a little
51:44
underrated when it first came out uh you know
51:46
interesting about lion king i know this is a
51:47
rapid fire but i gotta go off on the side i love
51:49
lin -manuel miranda like he's just one of my
51:51
favorites and i remember when mufasa was coming
51:54
out and he was talking about lion king and and
51:56
he referenced lion king being a soundtrack that
51:59
was a no skips soundtrack like every single song
52:03
on lion king is terrific And so I totally get
52:06
why you're like one and then the other, because
52:09
like, oh, everyone, you just can't skip. You
52:11
have to listen to every single song on that soundtrack
52:12
in Lion King because it's so good. Okay, Lin
52:15
-Manuel Miranda. I do want to pick one from Encanto,
52:18
but I kind of can't pick right now. I mean, that's
52:22
probably where I'd go. Encanto is actually my
52:23
favorite Disney movie. Um, and, but which, which
52:27
song you go with in that movie is really hard
52:29
because I think the scale of the initial song,
52:33
Family Madrigal, where he finds what introduced
52:35
every single character and what all of their
52:37
things are is just such a clever song. But we
52:40
don't talk about Bruno was like, I mean, it was
52:42
the number one song on the charts across the
52:44
country, right? Like amazing. Then you had Dos
52:46
Oroguitas, which is this sweet song that like.
52:50
Yeah, that's my favorite movie, y 'all. That's
52:52
my favorite. I love all those songs, so they're
52:54
all great. Hannah loves that movie. I really
52:57
love that. Well, Hannah, you and I were right
53:00
there. Girl, I got it. That's a great movie.
53:03
My favorite movie. I love it. Okay, favorite
53:07
Disney princess. I wanted to say Moana, but she's
53:12
not a princess. Is she not? Nah, she counts.
53:16
Really? She counts. Okay. Moana. For a while,
53:23
it was Jasmine, but I think now... Oh my gosh,
53:25
I forgot about Jasmine. I think now it'll probably
53:27
be Rapunzel. I think I'm going to go with The
53:29
Little Mermaid. It's still Moana. Moana is pretty
53:33
good. Moana is really good, actually. When you
53:39
bring up Moana about being a princess or not,
53:41
isn't it in that movie? Doesn't Maui call her
53:45
a princess? He's like, I'm not. And he's like,
53:47
no, you are. You have a sidekick. Like, you're
53:50
a princess. Yeah, I agree with Maui. I think
53:55
she's a princess. Okay, how about favorite Disney
53:58
villain? Scar. Yeah, I hate to go from the same
54:04
movie, but Scar. Oh, interesting. Scar's a great
54:08
villain. Yeah, he is. I was going to go Ursula
54:11
or Scar. Yeah, Ursula. Ursula would be another
54:13
good one. How about Ursula? So we got Ursula,
54:17
we got Scar, and then what is another one? Scar.
54:21
Oh, we got two Scars. Okay. Well, you guys are
54:24
going all in on Scar. Be Prepared, great song.
54:26
Again, back to the no skips. Be Prepared is a
54:28
great song, but also Poor Unfortunate Souls is
54:31
also a great villain song. Terrific. Those are
54:36
really high in my list. Just for sake of a different
54:39
one, I also really like Hades from Hercules.
54:42
I think he's funny. I think he's a good time.
54:45
Hades is a good villain. Okay, how about we'll
54:49
end with this on the rapid fire. Favorite food
54:54
at Disneyland or California Adventure, in case
54:57
maybe. The funnel cakes are so good. Well, the
55:00
churros. The churros. The churros are really
55:04
good. The churros are really good. Yeah, Cars
55:05
Land churros. I haven't been in so long on Main
55:10
Street. Do we get two churros? All the bakeries
55:11
have, oh, yeah. I'm going to do the funnel cake.
55:19
Yeah. Funnel cake, okay. Those are good. I'm
55:23
a churro guy. The churros there are just like,
55:26
I don't know. Nobody does a churro like Disneyland.
55:28
They're just so good. I love the churros. Okay,
55:32
so what we like to do at the end of every episode
55:36
is we like to give our audience three actionable
55:40
takeaways. In other words, three things that
55:43
we recommend that they could put into effect
55:45
in their lives today or this week. And in this
55:50
case, on that topic of the hopeful resilience,
55:53
finding a little bit more of that hopeful resilience
55:55
in their lives. What are three specific suggestions
56:01
you all would have that somebody could do to
56:04
have more hopeful resilience in their life starting
56:07
this week? Yeah, one that I have, and I think
56:11
all of ours are kind of habits, but definitely
56:13
something you should start now. Continually make
56:16
achievable goals, but never a final goal. I would
56:20
say this week, make a goal list maybe for your
56:25
next year of whatever project it is. and kind
56:27
of think of think of what is actually achievable
56:31
think of where you'll be in the next quarter
56:34
the next three months the next six months and
56:36
the next year but don't think of that as the
56:38
end of your whatever in our case the podcast
56:42
like you shouldn't ever think of your goals as
56:44
a capstone so put a goal but never make like
56:49
okay this is where we want to be in five years.
56:53
I think if you do a five -year goal, it should
56:55
be more general. I would be very wary of placing
56:59
that much precision in a goal that far out. It
57:02
could just, you feel limited yourself and you
57:05
shouldn't feel that. You should bring yourself
57:08
up. Yeah. I think, you know, what's interesting
57:10
is for somebody so young, that's actually very
57:12
insightful. um because i've heard a lot on this
57:15
recently you know traditionally in the business
57:18
world in the corporate world it's you know you
57:20
set your 10 -year plan your five -year plan your
57:22
three -year plan and then you work from there
57:23
and and i think what a lot of research is showing
57:27
is that you just have no idea where you're actually
57:29
going to be in five years or even three years
57:32
that being a little bit more generic and you
57:34
could have it be a big goal, but a little bit
57:36
more generic that far out actually can be helpful.
57:38
And you're dialing down on the specifics in your
57:41
quarterly goals and in your annual goal. So it's
57:43
actually really insightful. I really liked that
57:44
one. So excellent. So we've got a great actual
57:48
takeaway there of, of kind of setting those goals
57:49
and kind of those, those dialing in those quarterly
57:52
goals three, you know, a three month and 90 day
57:57
kind of period. Excellent. What else? Well, I
58:01
would say, Whatever you're doing, whatever you're
58:04
striving for, whatever your hobby is, write down
58:07
your milestones, whether they're big or small.
58:10
Write them down so that you can, one, see how
58:12
far you've come for motivation to keep going,
58:15
and also to track your growth, to see how you're
58:18
doing throughout your time. Because I think it's
58:21
really easy to, kind of like how we've been talking
58:23
in this episode, just start something, but not
58:26
really go through with it, or to lose the passion
58:29
as you continue on with it. And I think writing
58:32
down those milestones of whatever you're doing
58:35
really helps you with seeing where you've come
58:38
to kind of convince yourself that you actually
58:41
are getting better and growing at whatever you're
58:43
trying to do. But it also really motivates you
58:46
to continue on with the goal. And write the date
58:48
with those milestones so you can really see how
58:51
fast you're progressing and how far. Yeah. It's
58:56
an excellent one as well. I mean, what they say
58:59
is that what you measure, you can improve. And
59:02
so if you don't have them written down, you have
59:05
no measurement against which to compare it in
59:08
the future. So it's hard to track whether or
59:11
not you've grown or you've made improvements.
59:12
But by writing those goals down and then reviewing
59:15
those goals when those time periods come, then
59:18
you can see, okay, where did I come? Where did
59:21
I fall short? What can I do to improve on? the
59:24
the next goals that i set so it's an excellent
59:26
one perfect okay how about number three so for
59:33
this one i would say don't be afraid of reimagining
59:36
your process when things don't go as planned
59:38
instead use those challenges to re -innovate
59:41
new pathways don't just dig deeper to strengthen
59:43
a new one so like say you get a challenge you
59:47
know or setback like we were talking about earlier
59:48
in this episode don't like use that as something
59:51
that like oh man that like that stinks you know
59:54
don't let that tear you down but instead use
59:56
that as like almost advice like hey this is what
59:59
you can work on okay now we're gonna you know
1:00:02
change this and change that and make it better
1:00:04
and obviously this might not be having a difficulty
1:00:08
but this week you can still to have a contingency
1:00:12
plan or whatever it is um usually our contingency
1:00:16
plans revolve around who's going to edit Riley
1:00:19
and I ended up learning a little bit ago how
1:00:21
to do the baseline bare bones of editing as a
1:00:24
contingency plan for when Caleb can't do it.
1:00:26
And so I think having a contingency plan and
1:00:29
then, yeah, when something goes bad, think of
1:00:31
three out of the box ways, kind of those why
1:00:35
nots that we were talking about earlier. Why
1:00:37
not? Why can't you do something else to overcome
1:00:40
this problem? It was exactly what came to my
1:00:43
head when you said that. was the why not so that's
1:00:45
perfect i love that you you wrecked it right
1:00:47
into that because that's that can really you
1:00:49
know expand what the possibilities are so we
1:00:51
don't get too stuck in a rut um and we can think
1:00:54
beyond that and really open up the world of possibilities
1:00:58
well you know thank you so much those are some
1:01:01
fantastic um actionable takeaways that people
1:01:04
can really put into effect in their lives to
1:01:06
to help, you know, really bring a greater degree
1:01:08
of happiness, of joy, of fulfillment through
1:01:11
this hopeful resilience as we push past struggles,
1:01:14
as we find hope in the things that we're doing
1:01:17
in building for a great future for ourselves
1:01:21
and for others. Been an absolute pleasure speaking
1:01:23
with the three of you today on the challenges
1:01:27
you faced, the resilience you've had as you've
1:01:29
built a wonderful podcast and stuck with it for
1:01:34
a substantial period of time, which is so impressive.
1:01:37
And it's also so impressive that you've done
1:01:38
so at a young age. And I think it just goes to
1:01:41
show that, you know, regardless of somebody's
1:01:43
age or background, that there's so many things
1:01:46
we can learn from others. And so I appreciate
1:01:49
the willingness that the three of you had to
1:01:51
share your story, to share your experiences with
1:01:54
our audience. I'm better off for it. I know that
1:01:57
our audience will be better off for it. So really
1:02:00
appreciate your time that the three of you took
1:02:01
to be on with us today. Yeah, thank you for having
1:02:05
us. Yeah, it's our pleasure. We really enjoy
1:02:08
getting this chance to share our story and tell
1:02:11
everyone more about us aside that they don't
1:02:12
get to see on the, or hear on our podcast. Yeah,
1:02:15
I don't even think the people who listen to our
1:02:16
podcast are getting this much in -depth on us.
1:02:19
As you lead this conversation, remember that
1:02:22
yes, the past can hurt and you can either run
1:02:25
from it or you can learn from it. So here's to
1:02:28
learning and finding joy in the journey. See
1:02:32
you real soon.