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Episode 13: Cowboy Hardware · Random Ass Dudes Podcast

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Well, here we are. This is this is our first time
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talking to ACEO of a clothing company.
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Yeah. So I wouldn't quite say CEO yet,
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no, I'm the son, so. Oh, there you go.
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Very cool. That's all right.
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So your parents founded the company then?
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Yeah, yeah, in 1995. Very cool.
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Yeah, I saw you guys are just celebrating 30 years now, right?
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Yep. Yep, Yeah.
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Hey here. This year, 30.
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Years. That's awesome, man.
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Well, I just want to start off by saying thank you guys for
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sending us some. Shirts we got some swag on.
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Yeah, yeah, these are. These are awesome, man.
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Oh, cool. I love them.
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Glad you guys like them. Yeah, I like.
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Well, what I like is the cuffs are tight, so I can't just slip
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my hand through. I actually have to unbutton it
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and put it on, and they don't fall over my hands, you know
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what I mean? I could like if I'm on the dance
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floor or something. I was going to say, don't act
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like you're going to rope. No.
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Very cool. So tell us a little bit about
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how you know your parents got this thing rolling.
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First off, first and last name. Ransom Gomez.
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OK. Well, welcome, Ransom.
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We're glad to have you out. Thank you.
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Yeah. Yeah, it kind of.
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Try try to put the mic up a little closer to your mouth.
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Yeah, there you go. Yep.
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Yeah, I kind of just started my dad, actually.
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We're big ropers, OK? And my dad started off making a
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roping glove. Oh, excellent it.
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Was a special kind of glove that's made out of leather.
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This is different than all the cotton ones.
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And he started with that and then he slowly started making
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T-shirts and then he made hoodies and he made ball caps
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and then he really got into kids Western wear because it's kind
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of our niche and not everyone was doing it.
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Then just slowly just grew and grew and grew.
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And now we're in all those big stores and kids are definitely
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our number one, but we make a whole lot of adults and we're in
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all the big stores now. Yeah, that's cool.
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Now you guys are local, right? You guys are local Arizona,
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Yeah. We're local in Cape Creek,
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Arizona, and then, yeah, we're in all the big stores, Big Barn,
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Cavender's Cow Ranch. Yeah, Why did your dad want to
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make a glove? What?
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What was the? Well, he's been an entrepreneur
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all his life. He's he loves roping and he grew
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up in Cape Creek with all horses and this whole family grew up on
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a little ranch and he just wanted to be a part of the
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industry and he just made it his own and kept on going.
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So you grew up in this, right? This is this has been your life
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forever. Yeah, That's very cool.
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So we, we talk quite a bit. So we've we just moved out here
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about a year and a half ago, right.
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My wife's dream has always been to have horses and get involved.
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And then they moved out of here a couple years ago.
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So he's raising his kids like this.
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So knowing that you kind of grew up in this, what was it like
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growing up Western for you? Oh, it's, it's great.
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You're outside a lot and you get to do all the stuff outside and
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hang out with all the animals and horses.
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You build bonds with them and it just, it's a different type of
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lifestyle for sure. Like my friends who were not
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Cowboys or didn't grow up Western because I grew up kind
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of in the city, but we still had horses.
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We still have 3 acres and none of my friends had animals.
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So they got to kind of experience it when they come
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over to my house and they'd have sleepover on Friday nights and
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my dad would wake us all up at 6:00 and.
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Got to go to work. Chores for 5-5 hours.
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Yeah, Yeah. And they didn't mind it.
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That's how I knew they were good.
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That's how I knew they were strong friends.
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And that's awesome. That's still.
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Friends within the day. That's awesome.
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And they probably, and they probably got to like, you know,
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maybe ride and Oh yeah, for sure.
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I take them on rides. They all, they all have basics
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down, they can do a lot of stuff and they love going on trail
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rides and everything. That's awesome.
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So are you guys all still competing and roping then?
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Oh yes Sir. Yeah, I just practiced the other
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day. I am roping in the Ariat World
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Series. Oh wow.
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In Las Vegas and my dad's roping.
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I think he is 6 teams this year. But I'll be running the booths
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that we have at the NFR. Oh, very cool.
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I'm sure we'll see you there. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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We plan on going out there. It'll be the well we are
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actually going. There for Cowboy Christmas.
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We'll be there week one, yeah. Oh, cool.
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Yeah. Yeah, there's four.
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Yeah. Are you guys going to go to all
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the conventions? So we got a, we got a hotel at
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or our room is what is it Hotel dot Horseshoe.
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Oh, that's right, the. Horseshoe.
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So I think they got the Roper convention down there.
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So we'll be going there obviously.
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Yeah, it just moved there. It used to be at the Mandalay
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Bay, but. Now it's at the horseshoe.
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Yeah, we have a booth there. We have a booth there.
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Rio. South Point and the.
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Convention awesome, man. What about Rio?
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Yeah, yeah, he's gonna be at Rio.
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Yeah, we'll be. At Rio for sure.
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OK, that's where they did the big boot, the cheap boots.
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Yeah, where they gave it away, gave.
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They were like 10 bucks or something like.
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Oh yeah, yeah. Yeah, those were the worst damn
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boots I ever bought, right? I brought them home and I think
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I gave them to your son. Yeah, they like that for a
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reason, huh? You're right.
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That's awesome. So tell us.
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What started like cowboy hardware?
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What does that mean? So obviously it started out as a
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glove company, so it was more of a hardware company, but we've
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gone around that and we've stuck with the name.
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So because when you look up the name hardware, it says
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equipment, so close our equipment.
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So that's what we use it for. And it's really just the name my
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dad picked and he stuck with it. There was actually a couple
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years in the early 2000s, after I was born where he actually
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sold the company Calgary Hardware, and then the guy
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couldn't handle it, so he sold it back to my dad.
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But within that two year or a year period, he started another
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company, clothing company called Ransom Ranch.
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OK, Yeah. So.
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We have some shirts leftover from that.
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But then he came back to Cowboy. Hardware.
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Very cool. Nice.
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And now he's all in on cowboy hardware.
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The Ransom Ranch is done. What's what's like your dad's
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background? Like, I mean, he, you said he
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was like an entrepreneur, but like before all that like.
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Oh yeah, he, he grew up. He has four other five other
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siblings. He's one of six and he's the
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second youngest. So he's got four older brothers.
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He's got an older sister and a younger sister.
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And they grew up on my grandma's property.
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It's 5 acres in Cave Creek. And they grew up in a trailer.
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They all shared a trailer together.
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And then some of my dad's other brothers, my uncles got into
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construction. They kind of learn how to do
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that and then they all work together.
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Their neighbors, their best friends came over.
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They built my grandma's house that she still lives in today.
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And then they were all able to kind of move into that.
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But by that time, my dad was going to college at ASU.
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Then he was still working at a restaurant up there that's no
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longer there. It's called the Pinnacle Peak
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Patio. It was great.
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It was awesome. Everyone knew everyone, but all
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my brothers, my dad's uncles, and they all worked there.
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And then he graduated college. He met my, my mom was actually
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his high school sweetheart. So they, they're still together
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and they grew the company together.
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They, my sister, who's 10 years older than me, used to go to the
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shows with them. And then I also experienced this
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when we would sleep underneath our tables at the booth and we
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were there at all the shows with them and.
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So he has put in a lot of work then?
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Oh, yeah, he, he, he took put everything aside.
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That's what he he grinded for it for sure.
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That's awesome, yeah. It takes a lot to build an
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apparel company. I mean, we, we attempted to do
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it back in 2020. So to see what you guys have
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been able to accomplish is awesome.
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Yeah. So tell me, you said it's more
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you guys obviously do it for adults and stuff like that, but
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the the direction is, is towards kids, right?
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Yeah, it's, I mean every company you got to start with the youth
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in the. It's just so cool building a
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loyal customer from the ground up.
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And we got these, this kid named Stockton Caswell, he's our
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sponsor, he's our one of our athletes.
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And he's, I've known him since he was born and we grew up
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together. And you just see him, he gets to
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change the different types of clothes he gets to wear and size
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as he grows. And then he's going to be your
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sponsor for a long time. So yeah, it's just great.
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And that's just really is our niche, our niche.
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But like in Boot Barn, we sell more adults than anything and a
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lot of big stuff there. Yeah, my daughter's been working
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at Boot Barn for four years, and when I told her you know who was
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coming out, she instantly knew the brand.
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And she's like, we sell a ton of their stuff.
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Oh yeah, for sure. Yeah.
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We love Boot Barn. Yeah.
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Are you are you guys just in Boot Barn in Arizona or are you
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guys outside of? Arizona Boot Barn has about, I
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think they probably have more now, but they do have 400
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stores. They probably have more but no
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boot barns were all around and then all the other stores.
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Cavenders Cow Ranch. And you're in all their stores.
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They are. Yeah.
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OK, Yeah. We have a whole, we have a very
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large client base that very little too and they're awesome.
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That's awesome. So you get to travel around and
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meet with all these distributors.
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When I was freshman college, I started going on sales trips
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with my dad and then we would probably went on 40 different
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flights in the summertime for our spring sales and travel to
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the country. It's pretty fun.
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I, I enjoy it a lot. And you get to meet all the
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people and hang out with them. I've taken to lunch, get to know
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him. And then in the winter time we
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go to the show in Texas called the Wisa and we get to show all
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of our stuff there. So they all come there and we
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don't have to travel in the winter time as much.
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Yeah, very cool. When you were a kid, did you
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like, did you see yourself being where you are right now?
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Yeah, for. Sure.
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Yeah, I've always wanted to work cover.
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I've always wanted to take over my dad's company for sure.
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And my sister, never, my sister never really wanted to do it.
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She's, she actually graduated from San Francisco State and
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then, OK, she worked at Ralph Lauren in New York City for six
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years. And she was high, she's pretty
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high up. And she did great.
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And then she came home after COVID because it changed.
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And now she's working for us and she's bringing all of her
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brilliant knowledge and helping us grow and making us more
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organized. And that's awesome.
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So I'll kind of do more of the traveling sales stuff and we'll
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kind of work together and hopefully we'll take it over in
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a couple of years. That way my dad can retire and
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just rope. Yeah, that's all he wants to.
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Do that's what I was gonna ask is like is that is that the
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strategy is like get the kids to take it over so that he can go
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play. Oh for sure, he still ropes a
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lot, but he just wants to retire and rope, do all that because he
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was just going to sell it, but he didn't realize that I wanted
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it so bad. Sure.
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And so now he's going to keep it and we're going to keep going
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with. It that's awesome man, I love
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that I love that you guys are keeping it in the family.
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You know what I'm saying? No, for sure.
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And I love like that, like that story, like, about your dad,
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like, you know, came from nothing, right.
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Living in a trailer. And here you guys are you.
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He has his own clothing company, you know, and something that he
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loves to do. Oh, yeah.
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Like, that's like the American Dream right there.
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Yeah, he he loves meeting people.
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He loves hanging out with all his friends, his coworkers and
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salespeople and all of our clients.
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He loves them all and treat them like family.
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And that's our goal is try to just treat everyone together.
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Yeah. So how many employees does this
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support? We probably have about 35.
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OK, we need a couple more here soon.
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Do you? Really.
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Yeah, that's awesome. And you guys have your warehouse
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in Cave Creek as well? Yeah, it's right off Cave Creek
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in the one O 1. OK, yeah, right off the road.
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Yeah, we got a big old banner right there that says CAVIAR
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around. It very cool.
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What's like the like the most challenging part about, you
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know, growing this business and, and all that?
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Well, we're really kind of my focus is marketing wise.
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My dad never really believed in it.
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He didn't know like the power of marketing that could be true.
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And now he's starting to realize it after our sales on our own
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personal website has been starting to grow since we I've
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been working on it. And once he's starting to see
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that potential, that's it's really just working with him is
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the hard part to get him to realize that, oh, we could do
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this and it'll be change it and make a lot better and work
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together. When Yeah, really just market
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and get people to know our company because a lot of people,
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we have a thousands of loyal customers, they're great.
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But no, when everyone sees our chapter for the first time, they
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think it's Carhartt or. Somewhere bigger it was.
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Bigger. And we're like, no, we're our
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own brands. I was just at the Indian
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National finals in Las Vegas at the South Point and I was
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working that show for a week and I had a bunch of people come up
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to me and they're like, oh, I love your stuff.
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I've been buying it for years. And then I had a lot of other
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people come up and be like, oh, where's this brand at?
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Would you guys sell other brands here or other brands there?
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And I was like, no, we're our own brand.
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They're like, oh, cool. And then they realize it, and
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then they stay in shopping. Yeah, and they start putting
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your clothes on, huh? And they start dancing and.
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It's really, really nice stuff, very, very comfortable.
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So we appreciate the support for sure.
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We'll definitely, we'll definitely support the brand.
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I didn't even realize I had cowboy hardware stuff until I we
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started talking to you guys and a lot.
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Of people don't yeah, thing everyone has a lot of people
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have our stuff and they just don't realize it's our stuff.
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Yeah, right. They think it's just a shirt
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from boot buying or a shoe. Yeah, like I said, my daughter
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works there, so she brings me stuff all the time and I just
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put it on. Next thing you know, I was like,
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I didn't realize until the day that you were talking about how
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you guys were talking. And I was like, should I
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actually think I have some of that stuff?
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Yeah. So how many athletes do you guys
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sponsor right now? Right now we have well, Colton,
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he's an athlete slash singer, but so him we got our little our
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kids Stockton, he just turned 16.
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Like I would not be surprised he goes NFR when he's getting
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older. Yeah, when he turns the age,
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he's so amazing. We got some other Stockton's
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little brother. He's a great Roper too.
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Got a bunch of our kids that we sponsor some bull riders that we
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have. We have a bucking.
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No, we have a saddle bronc rider in California.
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He's one of the tops in the high school rodeo.
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Oh, very cool A. Lot of youth riders.
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Yeah, yeah, very cool. Yeah.
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I think like to build a brand like what you said, you got to
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start young, right? Like you got to instill it
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because I mean, like us as kids, it's like, you know, Nike.
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Yeah, right. I mean, that's, that's what I
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remember as a kid is Nike, you know, and it was probably hard
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for them to instill that into adults and all that.
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So I think that's smart. Well, the tough part too is you
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have to find the right people to represent your brand.
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The, I mean, that's what happened with us is we ended up
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having the wrong people wearing our stuff and posting stupid
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stuff all over social media and it went the wrong direction.
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But, you know, making sure that you align yourself with the
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right athletes and the right people that promote your stuff
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is really important. Yeah, sure.
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So what about you? I mean play sports or anything
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or. Oh yeah, in high school, I high
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school before in elementary school I played everything I
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loved. Played baseball for nine years,
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played flag football for like 6 years.
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Then I finally got in tackle. Played that for a couple of
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years in high school. But then after freshman year
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high school, I quit football and I decided to do some mountain
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biking. I did my biking club, that was
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fun. Then I got into motocross
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because my cousin got me into it, so we had our own little
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racing team. Nice.
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And we did that, and then I graduated and then I went to
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ASU. Very cool.
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Finished this year, so I finished.
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I did three years there. OK, what?
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What did you get your degree in? A business communication.
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OK. And that's obviously totally the
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help help cowboy hardware. Yeah, I know.
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I he did. It was one of our requirements
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was that I went to college. Yeah.
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So I I went to college and did my time, finished early.
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Yeah. Took summer school both years
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and got it done and now we're now we're here.
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That's cool. How did you how did you run into
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Colton? So Colton, his family is a part
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of a so his family and my family, my dad and Colton's
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family, they're part of a posse in, it's off 7th St. and
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Thunderbird. So it's kind of in the middle of
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the city. And they how we have a big old
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arena. We got a bunch of stables, we
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got cattle there for roping. And it's kind of like Cowboy
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Country Club, kind of how I describe it to people like
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Cowboy Golf Club, but for roping.
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Yeah. And you pay to be a member and
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then you pay to be a roping member too, and kind of just
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screw that. And then every year we go on
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family events we do in Flagstaff.
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And we just grew up together and young and.
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So that's the one that's right above the Western Saddle Club,
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right? Yeah.
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Yeah. That's where we see the Western
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saddle. Club.
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Yep. That's where I that's what I was
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telling you about, OK. Yeah.
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We, I, I was there last week. We grew open.
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Yeah. Yeah, so my wife rides at the
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Western Saddle Club when they have events.
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And then the girl next door, Julia, she rides.
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They both barrel race. Oh, cool.
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So, yeah, yeah. That's awesome.
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Very cool. How like, how was it Like how,
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how did when when Colton was going into his music stuff, were
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you guys like, hey, we'll sponsor you or I mean, how did
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all that, all that one? So really like 4 years ago,
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three years ago, I was really starting to get closer with
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Colton because there's a little age gap between us, but nothing
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crazy. And we finally started roping
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together and we liked roping with each other because we were
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both doing good. We build each other up.
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And then he'd sing and I'm like, you need to go do something with
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this. You need to go sing somewhere
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and record yourself and do it right.
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And because he shows me all these videos, he's like, look at
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this song I wrote. And I'm like, yeah, you're
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really good. I know.
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Yeah, go. Do something about it.
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And he finally went and did something about it.
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And now he's doing the great. And I was told him, you need
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support. We'll help you out as much as we
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can. Yeah.
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But obviously, if he's going to get an offer from a bigger
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company, we want him to take that, come back to us, loop back
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around, because we want him to grow as much as he can.
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And but right now, they stay loyal and we want him to go.
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We want him to fly. Yeah, I know.
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We saw him out at Dillon's and I was, I remember he and I were
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sitting there talking and he started saying I was like, who's
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this, 'cause we're used to not having like it's used to being
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not real great artists out there.
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And we're like, man, he's really good.
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And then watching him roping goats in his wheelchair was.
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Oh yeah. Like next level cool.
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Well, I first saw him on TikTok just doing the whole, like, I
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think his cousin was pushing him, Yeah.
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That was at my. House Oh, are you serious?
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I'm dead serious. I was at my house.
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That's hilarious. Yeah.
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Yeah. I was like.
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What the Hell's going on? Yep, I was at my house.
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I was the one turning into a cow.
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OK, my cousin was healing it. Yeah, that's awesome, dude.
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I got like a lot of views too, man.
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I was like, oh. Yeah, it's awesome.
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It was a good, great meeting. Yeah.
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Do you like go back on them? Like yeah, that's mine.
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Yeah, yeah, that was cool. So what's next for cowboy
18:58
Hardware? Do you guys got anything cool
18:59
coming up or? Oh really just the biggest thing
19:02
coming up is the NFR. We got 5 different booths there.
19:05
So we got like the Cowboy Christmas is at the Convention
19:08
Center. Yep, we have two booths.
19:09
So we have a full booth with all of our clothing, adult youth and
19:12
then we have a kids only booth that starts at youth and goes
19:15
down to infant. Oh, very cool.
19:17
What do you guys know exactly where your booths are?
19:22
I don't have the. I could probably get the booth
19:24
numbers if I looked on my phone, but I believe it's booth 431 for
19:30
the adult booth but we're towards the front.
19:32
On the bottom level. We've got 2 booths on the bottom
19:35
level and. And you're going to be working
19:36
those booths. Yeah, so for the first week I'll
19:39
probably be floating around, jumping around, helping all the
19:41
other booths, and then when my dad starts roping at South
19:44
Point, I'll take over his booth. Gotcha.
19:46
Oh, he's roping in the NFR. No.
19:48
So there's the NFR. Then at South Point they put on
19:51
another event called the It's the World Series.
19:54
There's a bunch of qualifiers that go on all year round and a
19:57
bunch of ropers go there and you can.
19:59
That's life changing money for sure.
20:00
Really. And that's the one that your
20:02
dad's going to? Yeah.
20:03
Yeah, so he is like they have a bunch of different ropings over
20:06
2 weeks and that's actually the one of the one that I'm finally
20:10
old enough to rope in. Oh, cool.
20:12
So I'm. How do you got to be to be in
20:13
that? 21 OK yeah, so I just turned 21
20:16
this year so that's when I'm gonna.
20:18
Nice rope now. My dad's friend.
20:20
Oh, so you are roping in it this year?
20:22
Yeah. Oh, very cool.
20:23
Yeah, very cool. At the not at the NFR, but the
20:26
world's the World Series. OK, OK, how how do you get
20:31
entered into that? Just do you have to have this
20:33
amount of points or? No, So the World Series really,
20:37
they got qualifiers in Wickenburg every a couple of
20:40
months and you just go there, you enter and I I believe it's
20:43
like top five, but don't quote me on that.
20:46
And but you can do places per certain percentage and you
20:50
automatically get to be in their big roping for that.
20:54
And there's eights and there's fives and all these different
20:57
people. And but you still got to pay
20:59
that entry fee. So doesn't matter you qualify or
21:02
not, but that's a big old entry. Fee is it?
21:05
Yeah, I think it's like $2500. Oh, OK.
21:07
Dang, yeah. But that payout is going.
21:09
To be, I was going to say, what's the payout on it?
21:11
500,000 Wow, yeah, that's crazy. Yeah, you win one of those and
21:16
you're good. And you get to pick your own
21:18
team right when you go in there or when?
21:20
You if you actually qualify at one of the qualifiers, then you
21:23
and your partner. Are the qualifier team.
21:25
Good together. Gotcha.
21:26
But in my case I didn't actually qualify.
21:29
I my friend Les that I'm roping with my dad's, he's known me
21:33
forever and he qualified with this guy.
21:36
But this guy can't go to NFR now, so since I've roped in a
21:39
World Series qualifier before, I'm in their system.
21:43
Oh, so you can plug? In so I'm going to sub in for
21:45
them. So we're going to rope together
21:47
in the last Sunday, I think. That's awesome, dude.
21:50
Very cool. That's exciting, man.
21:51
No, for sure. I'm I'm nervous.
21:53
I haven't I bet dude. Yeah, rope for the first time in
21:56
a couple months the other day and I, I felt pretty good, so.
21:59
Good. Now, how often are you going to
22:01
practice? Oh, I probably try to get two or
22:03
three times a week. In two or three times a week
22:04
before then, do you guys have like roping facilities at your
22:08
house? No, not personally at my house,
22:10
but we go to that, that roping club, right, But the West Side
22:13
club. And then I have some friends in
22:16
Deer Valley area and the Norterra, they got an arena.
22:20
I just went there rope there with him the other day.
22:22
He'd give me some pointers and. Now will you enter into some
22:26
other like roping competitions in in the meantime just to.
22:31
Yeah. So hopefully I'll be in town for
22:33
our posse that we're a part of. They put on week monthly
22:35
ropings. So hopefully I'll be able to
22:37
attend to the one of those. But other than that, I'll go to
22:40
Dynamite and go rope there off Tatum, Tatum and Dynamite Street
22:45
right there, they have a big old arena.
22:46
They do ropings every every weekend and.
22:49
So I'm, I mean, I'm pretty new into this whole cowboy culture
22:53
stuff, right? I mean, as a kid, I've always
22:55
wanted to be a cowboy. That's like, that was like my
22:58
little fantasy, right? That's awesome.
23:00
Get a horse, you know, chase Indians or something.
23:02
I don't know. But like, what is it about
23:06
roping that it's so addictive? Well, you know, I just got into
23:11
golf. It's kind of the same thing,
23:13
yeah. It's always something you just
23:14
got to, something you could do better every time.
23:17
You just want to do that perfect thing every time.
23:19
And it's so cool being with your partner.
23:23
It's not cool. And you miss, yeah, but you stay
23:26
together and you especially if you're trying to do something
23:29
big out of big qualifier or something, you guys got to work
23:31
together and try to help each other out as you go in and.
23:35
Yeah, you'll have to let us know when you when you do it in
23:37
Vegas. And we'll try to make it that
23:38
day because we're there. Then we get there the 5th and we
23:42
come home Monday the 9th. Yeah, I think.
23:45
So Oh yeah, you guys will be gone by the time I rope.
23:46
Oh OK, so you'll be second week? OK, gotcha.
23:50
They do all the higher number of ropings the first weeks.
23:54
Got you. Towards the end they do the
23:56
smaller ropens. Got you.
23:57
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So let me ask you this as as the next generation of cowboy
26:08
hardware, where do you want to take it?
26:11
What do you want to see happen with it?
26:12
I just, I just want some, I just want everyone to know who we are
26:16
and love our brand for how we how we make it so family
26:19
oriented And because all those shirts that you guys are wearing
26:22
and I'm wearing, they go all the way down to six months a years
26:24
old. We got we, it's a whole family
26:26
brand and that's what we love. We just want everyone to realize
26:30
that we can, we are family oriented and everyone can see
26:35
that and see and help us grow. And I wanted to be, I want to be
26:39
really big. I think it'd be great.
26:41
OK. We have the, we have the tools.
26:42
We just got to get there. Just got to get there.
26:45
Yeah. It's all about that social media
26:47
too, huh? Yep.
26:48
Yeah, that was a big part of it. I finally.
26:51
I got him. To agree with that.
26:52
And so I started running it, and then we hired our girl Sydney,
26:55
who reached out to you guys. Yeah, and she's been doing
26:58
awesome. By the way, shout out to Sydney.
27:00
Yeah, she is awesome. Yeah, sure, she.
27:03
Organizes everything great. Oh yeah, yeah.
27:06
I was pretty bummed out. We we missed you guys out out
27:09
there at the Horseshoe. Horseshoe hangout.
27:12
Yeah, yeah. That's all right.
27:14
It was fun. Yeah, nothing.
27:17
Did you guys have any athletes in that rodeo?
27:19
No, no, we didn't know anything. Only thing that was there was
27:22
Colton was singing. OK, cool.
27:24
That's right. Your stuff will probably be worn
27:26
to Dillons tonight. Oh, yeah, yeah.
27:29
Well, yeah. I mean, thank you guys for
27:30
sending my son. He's he's a little calf writer.
27:33
So. Or I'll hold on.
27:34
Steer writer. Yeah, he's not a, he's not a
27:37
calf writer anymore. I got corrected yesterday.
27:39
So yeah, yeah, yeah. He's he's got no problem
27:42
correcting. You no, no, no yeah, he's all
27:44
about it and that like that's what I love too about this whole
27:47
step, this whole lifestyle is family, right?
27:51
Like what you said like family oriented and all that.
27:54
And I mean there's, I don't, I don't think there's anything
27:57
else out there like that. So.
27:59
No, there's that's a different Yeah, the Cowboys definitely
28:02
rely on family and friends and it's a good, it's a good
28:05
lifestyle to have. Yeah.
28:07
Well, and it's there's a lot of loyalty there too.
28:09
I mean you think about, you know, just for us within 2 miles
28:13
what there's is there three or four sets of family?
28:16
There's three. So you, your family, ours, and
28:20
then Tyler and Mackenzie, you know, I mean within 2 miles and
28:23
they're all like him. My wife and the Mackenzie are
28:26
all cousins and we all live within 2 miles of each other,
28:29
you know? And it's cool.
28:31
I travel a lot for work, so it's nice to be out here and then I
28:34
don't have to worry about it when I'm gone because he's 4
28:38
minutes down the road if something happens here, right?
28:41
But it's, it's the community piece that I that I just fell in
28:44
love with. I mean, I grew up spending my
28:45
summers on a ranch in upstate New York, so I knew how hard the
28:50
work was. And when my wife was like, I
28:52
think I really want to do this. I'm like, be careful what you
28:54
wish for 'cause this is, there's no sick days.
28:57
There's no, it's raining outside.
28:59
I don't want to go out there and like you're you're shoveling
29:02
horseshit at 5:30 in the morning every day 365.
29:06
You know, So it, it is cool. And, and to see that you guys
29:09
have built a brand that that really, you know, represents the
29:12
culture piece of it I think is cool.
29:14
You know, there's a lot of people that can say that they're
29:16
going to go do it. And then there's a big
29:18
difference between saying you're going to do it and then going
29:20
out and doing it. Yeah.
29:21
I know for. Sure.
29:21
What What I also like is a variety of clothes that you guys
29:24
have. Like it's like, you know, you go
29:27
to Boot Barn and I mean, yeah, you guys got your section, but I
29:31
feel like you guys have a lot of variety within that, you know,
29:35
because if you go to like this sand for the area, it's like all
29:37
like the same. That's our goal.
29:40
We want to be different. Yeah, we like being different.
29:42
We like being a little fun, a little more crazy.
29:44
And we love our fun designs. Like your Paisley that you're
29:46
wearing. Yeah, I'm.
29:47
Wearing I love that one. That one's cool.
29:49
This is. My favorite.
29:50
I was going to bring you guys this one, but I didn't know.
29:51
I didn't know if you guys were cool like that.
29:53
Oh, the Wilder the better for us.
29:55
So I'm telling you, you ought to see some of the stuff we wear in
29:57
Vegas. Yeah, when we go, Yeah, we're
29:59
it's the louder the better. Yeah, no, we, I that's what I
30:02
grew up with. I love it.
30:03
Some of these buyers at these stores are like, oh, this is a
30:06
little too crazy. I'm like, that's why you buy
30:07
from us. Yeah, that's what we do.
30:09
And. Wait, what is what is that
30:11
called? Paisley.
30:12
Paisley. Yeah.
30:13
OK. Yeah, no, like when we went to
30:16
when we went to Kojo last year, I think I probably lit up the
30:19
stadium because it was like fluorescent orange and red and
30:22
brown. Oh yeah, we never, we like wore
30:25
like retro shirts like old, like make it look like 90s Cowboys or
30:30
whatever. Yeah, that's kind of the style
30:32
that's in right now. Yeah, for sure, for sure.
30:35
No, there's a bunch of Kym stuff for sure.
30:38
Yeah, we love Kym's our our neighbors.
30:39
Yeah, they're great guys. Yeah, yeah, my my daughter's
30:43
best friend works for Kym's and she says they're just amazing
30:45
people. Oh.
30:46
Yeah, they're amazing. They're.
30:47
Great. Yeah, Yeah, very cool.
30:51
So what's next? What are you, you know,
30:54
obviously you have the roping this fall.
30:55
What is what does the spring look like for Cowboy Hardware?
30:58
Are you guys already set up for the Spring launch or are you
31:01
guys working through that? We haven't.
31:03
We don't receive any spring stuff probably until late
31:06
December, January, then we can because we kind of when we order
31:10
our store orders, they pick like they want a shipment in January,
31:13
they want a shipment in March, they want to ship rent in May.
31:16
They kind of ship it out and we kind of make it work for them.
31:20
But it's matter of just getting all of our product in and that
31:22
way we can. Our warehouse is so organized,
31:25
we could probably handle double the amount of our stuff and
31:27
we'll be great. It's just a matter of getting
31:29
sales. But yeah, what does that sales
31:31
cycle look like for you guys as as the brand, right?
31:34
When you're going out, doing your sales calls, if you're
31:37
going out now, what does that sales cycle look like?
31:39
When would today's sales hit? Oh, for sure.
31:41
So after actually the week after we get back from the NFR, I get,
31:46
I drive home on Monday and then I drive out to California on
31:49
Tuesday to go meet with our big bar and our client and that's
31:53
when we are going to show them our fall 2026 line.
31:57
OK. Yeah.
31:58
So it's a year out essentially, basically makes sense.
32:01
And then in January, we go to our WISA show that I was talking
32:05
about earlier. And that's where all the stores
32:07
come in, our little mom and pop stores.
32:09
And they all come in and we all get to meet and we have 8
32:13
different sales booths shut up, set up for everyone.
32:16
And that's when we replace our orders for fall.
32:19
When you say you go to Boot Barn to show them the collection, are
32:23
they sitting there saying yes, yes, no, yes, yes?
32:27
So they're picking with it. How they want it, they want
32:29
this, these five and this month, this five and this month is five
32:33
that month. OK.
32:34
And a lot of our yeah. And we do.
32:36
We go to the stores most of the time as much as we can, but if
32:40
it's easier for them then we'll just meet them at that one show
32:43
and we'll get it done. But aren't we usually pretty
32:45
more? Personal now, are they asking
32:46
like we want a certain amount of these shirts, a certain amount
32:50
of these shirts? Yes, for sure.
32:52
Yeah, so after they. Pick the styles that they want,
32:54
then they take a couple weeks, then they place their quantities
32:57
and orders and which stores get each shirt because not all
33:00
stores get the same amount. Yeah.
33:02
They've got to figure out their forecasting for prior year
33:04
sales, what they anticipate in growth and all that other stuff.
33:07
They. Have ABCD stores that it goes?
33:10
I think it goes down to E, but maybe it just stops AD.
33:13
So from a design perspective for your guys stuff, do you take
33:16
where does that come from? Is it, do you guys have an
33:19
internal designer that you guys just give ideas to or?
33:23
It's we have a whole team, OK, I'm part of it, my dad's part of
33:26
it, my sister's part of it. Now my mom is part of it.
33:29
Then where I have our designer who does all the computer work
33:32
and we pitch in ideas and it take it's a long process to
33:36
build a whole line, especially for fall because fall you have
33:39
outerwear, sweatshirts, snap shirts, T-shirts.
33:42
Now we're coming out with polos next.
33:44
Year. Oh, are you?
33:45
Yeah, very cool. Well, we actually did this year.
33:47
They're actually in Boop Barn right now, but we send them.
33:50
We're coming out those next year.
33:51
So it's just a big old process. And then ladies, you got all the
33:54
knits and all those shirts that they wear, the fringe skirts and
33:58
dresses and. Is is clothing your number one
34:03
sales? Yeah, for sure.
34:05
Like like what do you? Mean well, like 'cause you guys
34:07
do hardware as well, right? Like the gloves and stuff.
34:09
You actually. Don't make the glove.
34:10
Anymore. Oh, OK.
34:11
Yeah. So it's all apparel now?
34:13
Yeah. My dad has his own special stash
34:14
of his gloves. He wears them.
34:16
He wears them all the time. But I never really, I never, I
34:19
just never grew up with them. And I think my hand's a little
34:22
too big for his size, but. Yeah, what's your #1 seller?
34:25
Is it T-shirts? I mean all year round it's a
34:30
snap. Shirts for.
34:31
Sure. Oh, it is.
34:31
Because, but quantity wise, it's definitely the T-shirts, yeah,
34:35
sure. But quantity, it's definitely
34:38
probably our snapshirts because we sell them in spring and fall.
34:41
Gotcha. But outerwears where you make
34:43
money, that's the yeah, that's the big money.
34:45
Jackets and vests and stuff like that, yeah.
34:48
I didn't know that well, I don't know anything about selling
34:52
clothes. It's naughty.
34:54
See. Oh, I bet.
34:56
Yeah, a big. Old process?
34:57
Yeah, it's, yeah. I mean, to be about 30 years,
35:00
yeah, that's awesome. Oh yeah, I mean, 'cause you
35:02
gotta think about like, comfort and everything.
35:05
Oh. We spend hours on patterns and
35:07
our shirts do run a little bit, but a lot of Cowboys like that
35:10
'cause then you tuck them in, they don't come out.
35:12
So that's what we talked about yesterday, right?
35:15
So when so you guys sent us these shirts yesterday, OK.
35:18
And, like, they were long, but I like that because, you know,
35:24
when I go like this, right, it doesn't come up.
35:27
And if it does, it's still tucked in.
35:29
Yeah. You know, And I was telling my
35:31
cousin Sam that these are not too big and they're not too
35:35
skinny. Yes, Right.
35:36
Like I still look good in it I think.
35:39
Yeah. Right.
35:39
You would agree, right? Yeah, exactly.
35:43
But I put mine on, it was like, oh, because I'm short, right?
35:47
And but they end up, once you tuck them in, they're great.
35:50
And you're right. I'm like, there's no chance
35:52
these things are coming out. Yeah, like.
35:54
That's our goal when you're riding your horse, Yeah.
35:56
If you're wearing AT shirt, don't tuck that in.
35:58
It's going to come right now, right?
35:59
And it's just it's just short, which is fine.
36:02
Yeah, but they're very, very comfortable and they fit great.
36:06
Yeah, like all those other brands, man.
36:08
I'll be tucking them in and they'll come out in the back and
36:11
my my butt crack will probably be showing.
36:13
I'll tell you, there's one brand out there that Boot Barn carries
36:15
that I won't wear anymore because it's so boxy.
36:18
Like as soon as you put it on it's literally just square and I
36:22
just can't. Have you guys ever thought of
36:26
like, I don't know, just throwing some ideas out there,
36:30
maybe having your fans or your supporters kind of think of
36:35
different designs that you guys want to do or?
36:37
Or yeah, we thought about that. Maybe for T-shirts that could
36:40
work, especially once we build build a bigger presence we'd
36:43
like to have, like maybe one of our athletes come design a
36:45
shirt. That would be cool for.
36:47
That and we'll do that, but once we get our website more working
36:51
like we just have to pay attention to it and work with
36:53
it. And this year I've already, I
36:55
did actually yesterday, I did what we did the entire year last
36:58
year we're already here. And this, these next two months,
37:02
you double what you do. All right.
37:03
So it's just a matter of paying attention to it.
37:06
So once we get big enough with that, we'll be able to do more
37:08
fun stuff, I think. And because right now we're
37:10
using our newer products on our website, but a lot of our older
37:13
stuff is there too because we got a lot of leftovers and it's
37:15
still good. It still looks good.
37:17
So we still sell it. How hard is it to find like the
37:20
the material that you guys need? So that's our different
37:24
manufacturers that they send us a bunch of different types of
37:26
material. But a lot like a couple years
37:28
ago these didn't really have a lot a little stretch like if you
37:30
pull on them, they have a little stretch right now.
37:32
Yeah. And our, we definitely, we ride
37:35
through a lot of cat claw in Arizona.
37:38
So we definitely wanted durability.
37:40
And I've ridden through shirts. And my cousin, he probably has
37:43
more shirts than me and he rides through more cat claw than me.
37:46
He does. And he loves them because they
37:48
don't really RIP their hair. And that's what we want.
37:50
We wanted to be durable, strong and come.
37:52
Yeah. Comfortable, yeah.
37:55
But I love that little stretch that we added in that was that
37:57
was a good. Yeah, I like it too.
37:59
I like it. And it's not too stretchy.
38:00
No, you know what I mean? It's just spandex.
38:03
Yeah, it's just fine. Just enough so they won't tear.
38:06
Yeah, yeah. Just to give a little give, do
38:11
you guys sell just plain black shirts?
38:15
Yeah, so I actually finally we made some black, white and blue
38:21
shirts that we just got in this fall.
38:23
We're actually waiting for them to come in.
38:24
They're almost there, but we made them out of this special
38:27
bamboo fabric and it's really nice and slick.
38:29
And we put our big cowboy hardware logo on the arm.
38:32
This is a brand T-shirt that especially our athletes, they
38:35
can put their other sponsors on them.
38:37
We'll order it for them. OK, so I'm going to put a plug
38:40
in here because the reason why I, I ask is I'm part of a, a, a
38:46
riding club. It's like a men's riding club.
38:48
We, we try to raise money for underpillar's kids at, at the
38:52
end of the year and all that. You know, it's like Christmas
38:54
and stuff. And, but one of our biggest
38:58
events is the Pony Express. We ride from Cave Creek to
39:02
Prescott and it takes us like 2 days.
39:06
And like each rider will have their own leg, you know, like
39:09
we'll start at Horse's help. We like work with them.
39:14
We start at Horse's Help and then we go to Cleater.
39:16
We stay the night at Cleater and then we ride to the Prescott and
39:20
we literally ride into town. We kind of shut down traffic and
39:24
ride around and then drop the mail off.
39:26
But for like the club members, we wear all black shirts, you
39:32
know? So that's why I was asking
39:35
'cause I think I'm going to buy one to kind of put represent.
39:38
Yeah, sure. Yeah, if.
39:39
They're in though. I'll help you out.
39:42
And then like the non members that want a ride, they wear the
39:45
white shirts. So if you guys have white shirts
39:48
as well that you know you'd send people that way too, so.
39:51
Yeah, there's definitely a lot enough people that we know that
39:53
can support the brand. I mean my brother-in-law Bucks
39:56
Bulls semi professionally out of the Buffalo Chip and all over
40:01
the place. Yeah, we were talking the other
40:04
day about you guys coming out and stuff like that.
40:06
So he was talking about how much he likes your guys stuff.
40:08
So there's enough people to help you guys support it for sure.
40:11
Yeah. Yeah, I like the I like the
40:13
local stuff, man Yeah, me too. I I love supporting local yeah,
40:17
that's why like having Colton on was such a big deal for us
40:21
because it's like, you know, just the local artists like how
40:24
cool would that be? Did obviously, I don't know how
40:28
well we helped him, but just to kind of be a part of that
40:30
journey of like growing and getting bigger and everything.
40:34
So, yeah, he's such a good kid, too.
40:35
Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's funny, man.
40:37
We had a good time. Yeah, yeah.
40:41
I'm really hoping to get out there and watch him rope too.
40:44
You know who's who's a Who's a better Roper, you or Colton?
40:48
Oh, probably Colton, but Colton, he really heals.
40:51
Since he can't, he doesn't really head.
40:53
Oh, OK, and I do more heading. Got you.
40:55
I'm the header and he's the healer when we do it.
40:56
But I want to learn. I'm learning how to heal right
40:58
now I'm getting kind of good but.
41:01
What's that? Before his accent, he's probably
41:03
he's definitely a better Roper for me.
41:05
What's the, what's the I mean, so for people that don't know,
41:09
when you say a head, right, you're you're roping the head of
41:12
the of the steer. Yeah.
41:13
So you rope. The horn or the steer or the
41:14
head. You can catch the neck, horns or
41:17
a half head which is basically horn and a neck.
41:20
OK. And then those are the only
41:22
three legal catches, and then you turn them left and healers
41:25
can try to catch back feet. Now when you're turning the the
41:30
steer left, is that like right away, like you gotta hurry up
41:33
and turn your horse and. No, not if you're not ready.
41:37
Obviously you got a dally first on your saddle horn.
41:39
But if that cow is kind of freaking out or if the cow's
41:42
already going left, then you kind of got to ease more into
41:45
the turn because he's already doing it.
41:46
Because I did the other day on I, I, the cow was running left
41:51
while I was running with him, and I jerked him left and he
41:54
just tumbled. And yeah, you just kind of got
41:57
to ease them in. It's every cow's different.
41:59
That's when you learn how to handle the cattle.
42:01
And you're setting up your healer, right?
42:03
Yeah, so that's that's the thing.
42:04
If you have a good handle as a header, your healers like roping
42:07
with you. That's my goal.
42:08
That's that's my, I like, I like being the guy that everyone
42:11
likes to rope with. So I, I really try to be gentle
42:13
on the heels and try to put it in the rope.
42:16
Yeah, try to walk the steer right into the rope.
42:18
Yeah, you want to be the phone call when a bad ass healer's
42:20
ready to to go rope? Yeah, yeah.
42:22
Well, it's a, it's a good analogy that you said for people
42:26
that don't know, it's like golf, right?
42:28
Like every hit matters. No, for sure, right.
42:30
Like every little hit that you do matters.
42:33
You know, you can't just make it up, like you can't just get a
42:35
Mulligan every time. And the same thing with roping.
42:37
It's like every throw matters, right?
42:40
If you miss, you miss. Yeah, there's so much more than
42:43
just throw too. It's especially if you're the
42:45
header. The header you have to worry
42:47
about timing, so you break out-of-the-box before.
42:49
If you beat the steer out of his chute then there's 5 seconds
42:53
right there at your time and then once you catch you got to
42:55
make sure you dally right and then or else you lose a thumb or
42:59
fingers really. I know some guys that are great
43:01
ropers and they've lost the thumb.
43:02
They still rope. But oh Dang, how do you lose a
43:05
thumb? He.
43:05
Gets caught in when you go to. Dally, yeah I've never I'd be I
43:09
am super careful with dally. My dad did a really good job
43:11
teaching me how to dally and be careful with it.
43:15
It's better to lose a. It's better just to let go and
43:17
miss then it is. Right now, can you feel it?
43:20
Like if if you're going to do a bad dally or something, can you
43:23
feel it and you just. Yeah, I've gotten my fingers
43:25
caught in there a little bit. Yeah, but you just had a lot and
43:28
you'd be strong and it stays there.
43:31
Damn dude that's scary. I've always liked seeing like on
43:35
that's. Really the danger part of it.
43:37
Is losing your fingers, Yeah. Well, that's why in Yellowstone,
43:41
he hands him a rope. He says learn how to learn how
43:43
to rope. Worse things going to happen is
43:45
you're going to lose a thumb. And you got two of those.
43:46
Yeah, when Jimmy's in bed after breaking his back.
43:51
What What? What do you think is harder, a
43:53
header or a healer? I think there's different
43:57
components. Like I said, the heading you
43:59
have to deal with timing. That timing is like everything
44:03
and then obvious. I think the catch for sure, the
44:05
heading is easier for sure, no doubt timing those feet moving
44:10
back and forth and it's such a hard thing to do right.
44:13
And but then again, you have all the technical stuff that the
44:16
header has to deal with. So I'd say they're pretty even.
44:18
But it's definitely more common to find a better header than it
44:21
is to find a better. The skill set's just different,
44:23
right? Yeah, yeah, for sure.
44:25
Yeah, and you got to be a good horseman too.
44:27
OK. That's the number one cast.
44:29
And you got to trust your horse, yeah.
44:31
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure.
44:34
You just got to be a good rider. Yeah, If you can, I can jump on
44:36
a different horse and figure it out.
44:39
If that horse knows what he's doing right or understands a
44:41
little bit, if you're a good rider, you'll be able to make it
44:44
work, Yeah. That's crazy that you say that
44:47
cuz Dylan has competitions throughout the week and me and
44:54
my daughter will go out there and go watch them, you know, and
44:56
like everything you say, that's not what it looks like.
44:59
Yeah. It just, it just looks like
45:00
people riding and throwing. Yeah, you know, but there's,
45:03
there is a lot that goes into just doing that or even getting
45:07
to that point, right? I mean, you can't just, nobody
45:10
could just come off the street, get on a horse and just start
45:12
roping. Oh no.
45:14
Especially if you've never been on a horse before, right?
45:16
Have you? Yeah, it's I've been to the
45:18
great, you know Walt Woodard has ever heard of him because he's a
45:21
two time world champion NFR guy and he comes and he did a school
45:25
at our posse every year. He finally did his last school
45:28
was there. He did every year consistently
45:31
and I took it when I was younger.
45:35
And first thing you talked about first lesson he gives us his
45:37
horsemanship. That's the number one aspect of
45:40
it. If you, if you can't figure out
45:41
your horse and you're not going to rope because yeah, horse is
45:44
going to be doing something different and it's going to
45:46
distract you from roping. And that's just the number one
45:49
aspect. I feel like in all of the cowboy
45:51
western stuff, if you can't work a horse or trust a horse to do
45:55
something, sometimes a horse knows more than you.
45:57
You just got to let it go. It's like every day we went
46:00
trail riding with my cousin. He wants to learn and he's
46:03
learning. He's doing pretty good and I put
46:06
him on the rest horse and I'm like, just trust the horse and
46:09
just let him do his thing. He'll he'll do it.
46:10
He'll take care of you. It's just like my mom.
46:13
I put my mom on my horse and he takes care of her.
46:15
She's like a Bentley. It's driving to everyone.
46:17
Just go super smooth and all that.
46:20
Is that your roping horse as well?
46:21
Yeah, one of them. One of them how many horses you
46:24
got? We just bought another one this
46:26
week and then went shopping in Nogales, but I think we have 6/6
46:32
an hour or no. You know what we have 7.
46:34
One's a stallion, 1's a broodmare.
46:37
Our broodmare's my wife's. And yeah, I have a my old, my
46:42
old horse that I learned how to rope on.
46:43
He's our, he's just our pet. He's got horse shingles.
46:46
It's called ring bone. It's bad, but he's retired.
46:49
He's only 16, but we're not getting rid of him.
46:52
Yeah, he's our. He's our pretty pet.
46:54
Yeah. Yeah, yeah, it's hard to get rid
46:56
of a horse now. Oh, it's the rough, Yeah,
46:59
roughest thing. My dad had this horse named
47:00
Rodeo. He was great.
47:02
He's been there since I was born.
47:04
And he he's this amazing guy. He's, he's not like the most
47:07
personality horse. He doesn't like to be pet, but
47:10
he likes to do his job. So when you get on him, he knows
47:12
how to work. He, he was the best row of horse
47:14
we had probably. And I had to take him to the to
47:18
the vet last year and that was rough.
47:19
That was a rough car ride. Yeah, I bet.
47:22
Yeah, we had our first horse put down because he like colic and
47:25
stuff and I was like Carly. Yeah, it was hard.
47:29
Yeah. But yeah, when I was little, I
47:31
mean, my dad went on a streak of just buying me old horses.
47:34
I probably, I think I had, I had three horses before I was like
47:39
10. Dang.
47:40
I didn't know. Yeah, they went to a ranch.
47:43
And you're right, they went to. A ranch in Cottonwood, AZ.
47:46
Right. Yeah, but I didn't know.
47:47
But now that I do know it's, it's a rough.
47:49
Yeah, definitely a different life.
47:51
So we've got 4 here. We've got the two, the one
47:53
that's cribbing behind us, of course, and then Sedona over in
47:56
the corner. That's the performance order.
47:57
That's Sedona. That's Sedona.
47:58
That's. My wife's That's our brood.
48:00
Marriage. Oh, really?
48:01
Yeah. So this is Aspen.
48:02
And then that's Sedona. And then we have two in training
48:05
J DS over in the round pen. He's a four year old BAE.
48:09
And then Red back here is a four year old Red Rhone.
48:13
He's ready to go. He's actually listed for sale
48:15
right now. He's got almost six months on
48:18
him and then we just brought him in.
48:20
So my brother-in-law who bucks bulls also trains horses.
48:23
So he comes out here three or four days a week and works them.
48:26
So yeah, kind of got a little little equine deal going on.
48:31
Here it's fun though. Yeah, it's.
48:33
Cool. It's cool to come out and see
48:35
like the progression of somebody training a horse.
48:38
Because that dude was feral as I'll get out when we brought him
48:41
home. Like you didn't want to get near
48:43
it. Yeah.
48:45
The what? The pretty horses.
48:46
They usually behave the worst. Yeah, he was.
48:49
He was something else. And then this one, the Bay,
48:55
Trevor was saying he's like that, that that horse is
48:57
unbelievably athletic. He goes if I tried to get on him
49:00
in the in the arena, not in the round pen, He he's strong enough
49:03
to buck me off. And that's saying something for
49:05
a bull rider to be like that one will send me off.
49:09
So yeah, he's got a lot of work to do with that one.
49:10
But Red's done. Red's ready to go, but he thinks
49:13
that he's either going to be a breakaway horse or like a a teen
49:17
Roper horse 'cause he's fast as hell.
49:20
Oh, if he can do 1, he can do the other.
49:22
Yeah. Especially he on the hillside,
49:24
for sure. Yeah, that's definitely the
49:26
case. But a lot of horses can do both
49:27
ends, yeah. He's he's a good horse.
49:29
Do. You guys have any breakaway
49:31
athletes? Not yet, Not yet.
49:33
Yeah, that's kind of my department looking into that and
49:38
finding everyone in that we want.
49:39
We've got 1 coming, don't we? Yeah, yeah.
49:43
Her name is Kylie. Yeah.
49:45
Yeah, she, I think she was, she was roping out like up north.
49:51
She was in Montana, Yeah, when I reached out to her originally.
49:53
And then now she's back here, so I think she does it a lot.
49:56
Well, we saw her off. I saw her on a Cowboy channel.
49:59
Yeah, she did like a rope in like 2 or 3 seconds.
50:02
I'm like, God, wait man. Yeah, she doesn't break away.
50:04
Fast. And we found out she's from
50:06
Wickenburg. It's crazy.
50:07
It's cool. Yeah.
50:08
Yeah. I think though it was a world
50:10
record like 1.6 or something. One, are you serious?
50:12
There had to be literally 1 loop and God.
50:14
That's what it is. I don't really think it is.
50:16
I think it's just throw. That's crazy.
50:19
You know what's? Crazy too is like I think about
50:21
that and I think like why can't like some of these headers do
50:24
that? So you can, so like when I grew
50:27
up, I, we did some junior rodeos when I was in middle school and
50:29
stuff and you'd go and there's a whole bunch of events you can do
50:32
with back. You don't get off the cow, the
50:34
calf and flip that calf over until you're at high school.
50:38
So we would just steer stop basically.
50:39
So we'd rope the calf and stop and dally.
50:41
And so it's kind of the same thing.
50:43
But OK, yeah, we we went to the PBR teams show here.
50:50
That's the best event. Yeah, that's my favorite rodeo
50:52
event, probably. It was fun next to the NFR.
50:55
Yeah, yeah, it was, it was it was a lot of fun.
50:58
My son actually got a picture with JB Mooney.
51:01
Like just totally, I mean, accident just I saw him down
51:05
there. I'm like, Drake, get up, let's
51:07
go. He's like, dad where we're
51:08
going. I'm like, get up, let's go,
51:09
hurry up. You know.
51:11
But my favorite part about that was watching Derek Begay out
51:14
there. He was out there and he was like
51:16
some, some bulls got loose and they wouldn't go go back into
51:20
the pen and he was out there, you know, roping and I'm just
51:23
like, golly. Yeah, that's a roping bulls.
51:26
That's a scary business. Yeah.
51:28
I saw a guy this year earlier in the Queen Creek, they have their
51:31
rodeo and his, his horse just turned the left and he should
51:35
have turned right. And then he went next to the
51:37
fence and this bull was there and he flipped the entire horse
51:41
upside down and landed on the guy and his.
51:44
And the best part is that he was one of the pickup man, right?
51:47
And his brother is the owner of the Bulls.
51:51
Oh. Boy, but he, he, he just broke
51:54
three ribs. I think he was on his horse the
51:56
next day doing it just to be there.
51:58
That's crazy. Horse is is a is a horse is.
52:01
Something real bad. Is it?
52:03
But did the horse live? Yeah, OK.
52:05
He's. A little freaked out, but.
52:06
Well, remember, we were up at the Roadrunner.
52:09
Were you there that night? That that kid, they ended up
52:11
stopping bucking bulls because they had to take him out of an
52:14
ambulance. No, I.
52:15
Wasn't there oh man, we were there.
52:16
I I was convinced we saw somebody die.
52:18
That's. What I thought too.
52:19
Yeah, and I just, I guess he survived, but I think he broke
52:23
his back in a bunch of ribs and stuff like that.
52:25
But he he came off the bull and the the bull just stomped this
52:30
dude out. And I just he and he just laid
52:32
there motionless. I was like, we just, we just
52:34
witnessed some dude get killed. Yeah, it was scary.
52:38
Yeah. They stopped everything but it's
52:41
wild. Yeah, yeah, it it, I mean all
52:43
these. It's dangerous.
52:46
I mean, you saw me come off at Sedona sprinting through the
52:49
desert. I mean, you can get hurt on
52:50
these horses or these bulls at any moment.
52:53
You gotta. You just have to be, Yeah.
52:55
It might not even be their fault.
52:57
Well, she stepped in a hole. We were sprinting across the
53:00
desert. She stepped in a hole and
53:01
luckily she kept her balance, but it threw me up and over the
53:04
front. And I mean, thank God she didn't
53:07
land on me, right? That would have probably killed
53:09
me so. Yeah, they're like 1000 LB
53:12
animals, man. With their own mind.
53:16
Yeah, yeah, You know, have you ever had any crazy accidents so
53:20
far? Actually, I haven't my whole
53:23
life except for. Yeah, you better knock on wood.
53:26
I know the risk. I know it's I know I'm lucky for
53:30
sure. Yeah.
53:30
When I was little, my first my first animal was a miniature
53:33
mule. Oh really?
53:35
I got. Bucked off of him when I was a
53:36
little little but. That's the most recent.
53:38
One was actually, we got a new horse and he's a younger one and
53:42
we actually got him out in Whitman.
53:44
He's a fantastic head horse. And I, when I went to go propose
53:49
to my wife, we were on this ranch down in Loquel.
53:52
It's just east of Nogales on this big old 13,000 acre ranch
53:57
that we're friends with. And we were riding and it was
54:00
literally after we got done proposing, I got done proposing
54:03
to her, right? And we were on the ride back and
54:06
she was driving in the Ranger with her mom because she was all
54:08
excited. They were all hiding and all
54:09
that stuff. And we were riding back and
54:11
there's these bulls and her dad gets this smart idea.
54:15
Let's kind of let's run back, let's do some jogging back.
54:18
And I'm on this horse that doesn't.
54:20
This horse has probably never seen a big old Charley Angus
54:23
bowl in his life. He's just been seen roping
54:25
steers and he starts running. I'm trying to hold him back a
54:28
little bit because I know there's a bull up there.
54:31
It's not his fault. He's just scared.
54:33
And it's bowl lifts his head up and stomps one time and this
54:37
horse just sidesteps. He didn't buck or anything.
54:40
He just sidesteps within like jumps, like 10 feet sideways.
54:44
And I just fall off the side. Dang, 20 minutes after I'm done
54:47
proposing. And my wife, my wife witnesses
54:49
that. Yeah.
54:50
And I'm like, Oh my gosh. I swore I could ride and I
54:53
swear, yeah. No.
54:54
And her brother goes, well, that was a short engagement.
54:57
I was like, Oh yeah. That's awesome.
55:00
That's great. How long you been married?
55:02
Actually it was one year last Sunday, so.
55:04
Oh, congratulations. Yeah, Congrats.
55:06
Thank you. Yeah, You guys meet in college?
55:09
No, we actually met at the, you know, the family rodeo events
55:11
that I was talking about, me and Colton Grove going to Yeah, her
55:14
dad became a member and the first year he became a member,
55:17
they went to that family event and that's where I met her.
55:20
And that was actually she was supposed to leave on a a mission
55:23
for a church. OK.
55:25
And but the next week I talked, we talked on Instagram and I
55:29
finally took her on a date and she changed her mind.
55:31
She stayed. Nice got married, got her insta
55:34
huh? Yep.
55:35
Oh, she actually DM me. She followed me.
55:37
OK, yeah, yeah. So she's the one that was OK.
55:39
She knew what she did, too. Yeah.
55:43
It's all right because I had to hit up my wife on Myspace.
55:47
That's how old I am. Yeah, I was.
55:50
I was too free to talk to her. I was like, I just go on
55:53
Myspace, hit her in the DMS over there.
55:56
See what music she has on her board.
55:57
Yeah, yeah, you you probably don't know what Myspace is.
56:02
Yeah. Yeah.
56:05
Your sister probably does. I'm.
56:07
I'm sure she does. Yeah, yeah, that's funny.
56:11
Well, very cool. Well, we're excited to see what
56:14
you guys do with the brand, especially in the next
56:15
generation. You're coming up and you're
56:17
gonna kind of take it over and we'll definitely be supporting
56:20
it and let us know how we can help for sure.
56:22
Yeah, yeah, we definitely want to support the brand.
56:24
I'd love to have my dad on with. You guys, Yeah, that'd be great.
56:26
We can actually talk to him. Oh, for sure, yeah.
56:28
It'd be cool to do it in the warehouse.
56:30
Yeah, we could do it in. The warehouse, Yeah, that'd be
56:32
awesome. Yeah, well, what's cool about
56:33
our setup is we could literally go anywhere.
56:35
Yeah, so. And we designed it that way.
56:37
Yeah, yeah. We want to be able to, you know,
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go to different places and experience other people's
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lifestyles and stuff like that, so.
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Yeah, take it to the rodeos and stuff like that and be able to
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do that and. Yeah.
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So, yeah, yeah. Definitely got to get you and
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Colton on too. Yeah, that'd be fun.
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Yeah, that would be fun. All righty chirping.
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From Colton. I'm sure.
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Yeah. Oh yeah, we'll have.
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To do that. Yeah.
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Well, awesome. Well, we appreciate you driving
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out here from Scottsdale and spending some time with us and
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teaching us a little bit more about the brand and telling us,
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you know, giving us even more reason to wear it.
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So we're looking forward to following you and keeping, you
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know, keeping in touch. Awesome.
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So, yeah, thank you. Thank you.
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Thanks for coming out. All right, you friends,
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everyone's going to be friends. And plus, you better ride like
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you ride.